[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks and Sackville Bags

[CMR]

Hey John, thanks for your interest! Looking to sell as a matching package only 
now.

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[RBW] Re: For Sale. Early Rivendell

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 4:32:16 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:
 

> What brake reach?
>

Not Norman, but the brakes are marked as Daytona, which didn't come with 
anything other than short reach. Furthermore, judging from where the brake 
pads are located on the brake arms, these brakes aren't fully maximized for 
tire clearance. I would ask Norman to confirm the largest tire he fitted 
into the frame, but I have similar Campagnolo brakes with similar pad "hit 
points" that I couldn't fit anything larger than 30mm under.

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[RBW] Re: For Sale. Early Rivendell

[Anthony Childs]

If I didn't just buy an Atlantis I would jump on this bike. perfect size 
for me too! good luck!  

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 11:13:31 AM UTC-7, Norman Michaels wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, I've aged out of riding my Rivendell. I loved it and would 
> like to see it go to an appreciative new owner, not just someone on ebay or 
> Craigslist.
> My Riv is an original custom frame from 2000. It was built by the frame 
> builder and painter that at the time Grant said were the best. The detaild 
> lugs are just beautiful. 
> I used it for group rides and never put a rack or bags on it but the front 
> and rear dropouts do have eyelets to put one on.
> I have all the original specs of Grant's design. It was built with a pubic 
> bone height of 80.6 cm. I'm 5'7" and it should fit someone an inch or two 
> taller or shorter.
> I fitted it out with a Campy gruppo.
>
> It's in excellent shape except for a scratch on the top tube, seen in one 
> of the pics.
>
> Will at Rivendell told me he thinks it's worth $1,700 but would be fair to 
> settle at $1,500, so that's the asking price.
>
> Photos attached. More pics and info available.
>
> Thanks,
> Norman
> 4 Attachments
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[RBW] Re: Looking for some inexpensive parts

[Patrick Moore]

Cantilver levers, not V brake ones; should have been clear.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:53 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'm tuning up a friend's child's mountain bike and I could use a pair of
> inexpensive but all metal brake levers and grips (usual steel mtb bar). It
> would be nice to get these by end of week, if that's possible.
>
> This is probably something for the bike shop, but I could also use a
> "thorn proof" 24" (twenty four inch) tube for 2" tires.
>
> Also, if anyone has any little doodad for the bike that might interest a
> 10-year-old boy -- interesting horn, bar-mount compass, rifle holster, what
> have you -- I'd be interested in buying that, too.
>
> Will of course pay for goods and Priority shipping.
>
> Thanks.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] wow

[Eric Floden]

I went into my LBS (Reckless, on Fir St.) with my green Bombadil, and the
young man most often there (Matt) looked at it for a beat of 2 and said,
Wow it's not orange...

I think that is pretty fast processing. And I have only ever seen Bombas in
orange.

EricF
Vancouver BC

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[RBW] 52 Clementine Rack

[Joe Bernard]

I had the Medium on my 52 Clem L. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks and Sackville Bags

[John Rinker]

Hey CMR.

I may be interested in the Saddlesack medium. What are you asking for it by 
itself?

Cheers, John


On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 12:36:01 AM UTC-7, CMR wrote:
>
> Sackville Bag Combo:
>
> Bought these to create a cool matched olive set. Ended up riding with the 
> Saddlesack for only 2 rides and using the Trunksack most of the time. 
> Trunksack shows beausage, few water spots on leather, but in structurally 
> fantastic condition. Saddlesack is in like-new condition, there is no wear 
> at all. The Saddlesack medium is no longer made but if you were to buy both 
> new it would  be $210+$125 = $335. I am asking for $240 shipped for both.
>
>  
>
> Nitto Front Racks Combo:
>
> Great front rack set with both a platform and lowrider. Nitto Mini Front 
> 32F in great condition. Probably a few hundred miles but did not carry much 
> weight at all. A bit of tape residue where there was newbaums set up to 
> hold a Wald Basket. Threaded rod cut down to 4.5cm, the ideal length for my 
> Quickbeam. Nitto Hub Area Rack in like-new condition, shiny, curvy, 
> beautiful. These go together fantastically, they piece together like a 
> custom rack combo! I am asking $200 shipped for both.
>
>  
>
> Buy all bags and the front rack for $350 shipped!
>
>  
>
> More pics on my Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/
>

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[RBW] 52 Clementine Rack

[Howard Hatten]

I have the large big back rack I would sell but I think you need a medium for 
your size bike. If someone has tried the large on your size Clem and it works 
let me know. 

Good luck
Howard
Livonia Mi

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[RBW] Re: A Family Clementine

[Pondero]

Wonderful story!  Poignant reminder!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas


On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 12:54:44 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Dear Friends, 
>
> In 2015, my husband needed a new bike. Providence would have it that 
> Rivendell was making something totally new, and very affordable: their 
> now-famous and highly-acclaimed Clem and Clementine. My husband got one of 
> those lovely creamy blue Clems, and when his mother heard about it, she 
> asked me to order her a Clementine. “I’d like it in burgundy,” she said. 
>
> “It doesn’t come in burgundy,” I said. “You get aqua.” 
>
> “Ok,” she said, “Tell them I want burgundy.” 
>
> With that squared away, I asked her what kinds of accoutrements she’d like 
> her Burgundy Clementine to have. “When you call them, tell them I want 
> everything. Just get everything,” she said. 
>
> This is just classic. She does nothing halfway, and when she said she 
> wanted everything, she meant it. This was accomplished via phone in a 
> conversation that lasted 2 hours. I had to read every product on the 
> website over the phone to her, and put it in the cart at her direction. It 
> was a large order, and it was right before Christmas, if I remember right. 
> I think I even put a note on the order that said, “No, this is not a fake 
> order.”  It was done and now we had the excitement of waiting for her new 
> bike, which I would not get to see until summer. In her determination to go 
> whole hog, my MIL found Rivendell’s website and decided to call the elves 
> there herself. She made another order. A huge order. And when 6 months 
> later we arrived at her house, she had Rivendell swag for everyone! All 
> four grandkids wore their Riv caps. Reflective triangles galore. Clem Smith 
> tee shirts in several sizes. Water bottles, pins, bandanas. We had it all 
> and we wore it all like Dobby the house elf from Harry Potter, and we were 
> the fanciest family cyclers in all of Beltrami County. We rode to ice 
> cream, rode around the lake, hit the local parks. We took photos, greeted 
> the neighbors, zoomed over bridges and pedaled through the cute little 
> business district in town. My MIL never pedaled but with a giant grin on 
> her face and *always* on the wrong side of the road. 
>
> We had 2 really great summers of riding together before it all went wrong. 
> Just two. I wish I had taken more photos. I wish we had ridden more miles. 
> I won’t go into details here, but my fun-loving, zany, whimsical mother in 
> law is no longer herself. She now resides in assisted living and will never 
> be able to ride her pretty Clementine again. Her Clementine has sat in her 
> garage since May of 2018. On my Annual Great Northern Road Trip this 
> summer, I drove up to see her, and while I was there, I rescued her 
> Clementine from it’s life sentence to the garage. But for two blemishes on 
> the head tube and one fork blade, the bike is mint. Well, it’s aqua, but 
> it’s MINT. 
>
> Since getting it, I’ve decided I LOVE the Clementine. I love every single 
> thing about it. Everything. I love that this bike belonged to my MIL first 
> and that we set it up together. I love the memories we have on these bikes. 
> There should have been more. 
>
> I always wanted a bike with Rivendell’s latest philosophy (fat tires, 
> chainstays for days, etc). It just hums - HUMS - along the road. I shall 
> fear no gravel, as it has no power over my new super tires. It just oozes 
> charm and class and the shape of the step-through frame is exquisite. It’s 
> got those fun thumbie shifters and even has Brooks grips - how in the world 
> did she ever find and order a pair of those?! Also, everyone loves the 
> “burgundy” (read: aqua) color. 
>
> Sincerely, 
> Leah, who suddenly has the strangest urge to ride on the left-hand side of 
> the road... 
>
>

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[RBW] 52 Clementine Rack

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I have never liked the Pletscher (sp?) rack that Rivendell sells for its Clems. 
I inherited a Clementine with that rack and I want to change it out. Does 
anyone one here know if the Nitto Big Back Rack will work on a 52 Clementine? 
Medium or large? Better yet, does anyone have one they would like to sell me?

Thanks!
Leah 

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[RBW] Re: "Sadly, Long Shen is closing" Another loss to lugged steel frame production

[Joe Bernard]

It's actually the original vision, which Grant backed out of shortly after the 
company got going. A very early interview mentioned lugged models, plus a 
possible lower-priced TIG bike. 

Lugs are great and my custom will have them, but it's going to have some 
filleted joints like that recent one, too. I like both!

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Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Joe Bernard]

Or - since you asked about a new wheel and may need both - Riv has nice silver 
sets at various price levels that will work great on your bike. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Ian A]

You'd have to have that spoke under massive load to break the rim like that 
unless the rim was already knackered.

Check your front rim for wear on the brake track. It might be time for two new 
rims.

FWIW, if you have the right size spoke wrench, you could do the rim swap 
yourself and just take the laced up wheel to a shop for truing. Just make sure 
you're using an experienced wheel mechanic. I've replaced a few worn out rims 
just by taping the new rim to the old and "moving the spokes over". I build my 
own wheels, but the rim swap method is fast and allows one to reuse the spokes 
and nipples.

IanA
The process is described in this YouTube video. I haven't watched it through, 
just wanted to illustrate my meaning 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=web=j=%23=2ahUKEwiaiYyPwKvjAhVSoFsKHRkIArsQwqsBMAF6BAgIEAg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov

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[RBW] For Sale. Early Rivendell

[ted]

Couple questions,
Where are you at?
What brake reach?
Thnks 

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Re: [RBW] Pedal click driving me batty

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

There’s an entire section at the Harris Cyclery/Sheldon Brown web site about 
clicks and other annoying noises:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/creaks.html 
 

--Eric Norris
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> On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:03 PM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles 
> <4824...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Since it’s such a quick thing to check off the list...try to snug up your 
> crank arm bolts.  I had waited about a month because I was dreading a bottom 
> bracket rebuild after getting a click.  Low and behold I got away with a 
> snug-up on my drive-side on a whim.
> 
> I know you said it’s isolated to your pedals but I still think it’s worth a 
> shot...
> 
> Good luck! Clicks can be the worst.
> 
> Alex
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Re: [RBW] Pedal click driving me batty

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Since it’s such a quick thing to check off the list...try to snug up your crank 
arm bolts.  I had waited about a month because I was dreading a bottom bracket 
rebuild after getting a click.  Low and behold I got away with a snug-up on my 
drive-side on a whim.

I know you said it’s isolated to your pedals but I still think it’s worth a 
shot...

Good luck! Clicks can be the worst.

Alex

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[RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Bill Rhea]

Far out, Phillip, I just ordered mine. Thanks for the cool design and doing 
this run of patches!

-br

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 3:42:18 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Coincidentally, I just ordered the commemorative patches to be made. Get 
> them on Etsy: https://etsy.me/2L9smrG 
>
> I can’t add an image from my phone, but the patch is a riff on the Riv 
> logo, and a Reader-style headline that plays off the Rivendell slogan. 
>
> Note: Grant approved the production of these, and my goal is to cover 
> costs and donate profits and unsold patches to Rivendell at or after the 
> Rivmoot (aka Fellowship of the Rigs). 
>
> Thanks a ton, 
> Philip

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[RBW] Re: FS: Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL1 mtnGLO Tent and Footprint

[Irving]

$OLD!

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 12:10:01 PM UTC-7, Irving wrote:
>
> I'm the original owner of this item and have used it less than 6 times. FWIW, 
> tent poles can be lashed to the front of a basket and the remaining tent 
> items can fit nicely inside a medium shopsack (or on top of the basket) as 
> seen here (relevant Riv material) 
> .
>
>- Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL 1 mtnGLO Tent 
>
> 
>- Big Agnes Fly Creek HV UL mtnGLO 1 Tent Footprint 
>
> 
>
>
> There are some small tears in the lightweight tent storage bag but the 
> tent is in perfect condition. Pictures can be provided upon request.
>
> The current model of the Fly Creek UL1 is on sale for $280 at REI but 
> doesn't include the footprint. I'm looking to get $250 shipped for the 
> tent and footprint.
>
>
> Irving
> SF, CA
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[RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[André Pinter]

I added my name on the google doc, I did rsvp on the original eventbrite. 
Not sure who is managing that but could be useful to get that list. The 
plan is I am riding up from SF with Bill Rhea on Friday, not sure if I'll 
stay Saturday night or not. Happy to join others for the ride up.

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>
> I shall attend, representing the great County of San Diego and the 
> Borderlandz!
>
> I'm happy to include Pine Mountain on Saturday, and defer to my friends 
> who know the trails and maps. 
>
> Will this also serve as an Entmoot? I see at least one Quickbeam listed as 
> attending. Maybe Sunday can include a gentleperson's Entmoot-inspired ride 
> (or ride home), as we did 5 years ago. 
>
> Looking forward to this!
>
> Esteban
>
> On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 2:43:20 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Chaingang, 
>>
>> Coming up Real Soon Now is the RBW25 weekend at Samuel Taylor State Park 
>> - 
>>
>> Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 2pm Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 12pm PDT 
>> Devil's Gulch Group Site 1&2 
>> http://rbwxxv.eventbrite.com 
>>
>> - And while we can thank Justin in Oakland for laying the groundwork 
>> of the event (read: HE RESERVED US THE GROUP SITES), it's going to be 
>> up to each of us to make it happen! 
>>
>> So: Who is planning to attend? What level of riding are you hoping 
>> for? What ideas or adventures would you like to have? 
>>
>> Speaking for myself, I can only make it over for Friday (will stay 
>> over in camp) and Saturday riding. I'd like to make a ride from camp 
>> around the Pine Mountain Loop, and then either return to camp via 
>> BoFax / Bolinas Ridge OR, down into Fairfax via Repack. 
>>
>> I think it'll be "each-their-own" in terms of food, but it might also 
>> be fun/nice to bring something to share for (either) evening? 
>>
>> Let's hear some enthusiasm and make this happen! 
>> =- Joe Bunik 
>> Walnut Creek, CA 
>>
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[RBW] Re: "Sadly, Long Shen is closing" Another loss to lugged steel frame production

[M Talley]

Ah yes, so this problem's arrival has been mentioned. The solution that is 
on-going and illustrated by that custom Nobilette build with lugged 
headtube top and bottom and seat tube/binder really illustrate where builds 
are currently with the production frames also. These changes might indicate 
there will be no more fully lugged production models going forward. The 
language of this statement would seem to suggest a change in the original 
ethos of the brand: 

"Lugs aren't necessary, but they add some non-genericness, and they add 
excitement to the bicycle archaeological finds of the future. That is the 
worst reason for building with them, but it's also undeniable."

The better reasons for building with lugs if left out of the discussion 
seems a change from Rivendell Bicycle Works' beginnings. A sad reality of 
the times? Does this eventually mean no more A. Homer Hilsen or Sam 
Hillborne or Cheviot?

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 10:48:37 AM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/2019-no-6-early-march-brake-pads-free-books-more-bootses
>
> "We had a short scare from our lugmaker. Most of the employees are near 
> retirement, and they-the-owners aren't going to keep on making lugs for 
> multitudinous more years; but the scare was that -- for a while there -- it 
> looked like we wouldn't be able to get any more lugs, period. We were 
> living with that for three days, and came up with plan to deal with it. Now 
> we're set thru this year at least, and have the opportunity to buy tons for 
> the future. Lugs are expensive, so our capacity to buy is limited, but at 
> least we can get them."
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Esteban]

I shall attend, representing the great County of San Diego and the 
Borderlandz!

I'm happy to include Pine Mountain on Saturday, and defer to my friends who 
know the trails and maps. 

Will this also serve as an Entmoot? I see at least one Quickbeam listed as 
attending. Maybe Sunday can include a gentleperson's Entmoot-inspired ride 
(or ride home), as we did 5 years ago. 

Looking forward to this!

Esteban

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 2:43:20 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Chaingang, 
>
> Coming up Real Soon Now is the RBW25 weekend at Samuel Taylor State Park - 
>
> Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 2pm Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 12pm PDT 
> Devil's Gulch Group Site 1&2 
> http://rbwxxv.eventbrite.com 
>
> - And while we can thank Justin in Oakland for laying the groundwork 
> of the event (read: HE RESERVED US THE GROUP SITES), it's going to be 
> up to each of us to make it happen! 
>
> So: Who is planning to attend? What level of riding are you hoping 
> for? What ideas or adventures would you like to have? 
>
> Speaking for myself, I can only make it over for Friday (will stay 
> over in camp) and Saturday riding. I'd like to make a ride from camp 
> around the Pine Mountain Loop, and then either return to camp via 
> BoFax / Bolinas Ridge OR, down into Fairfax via Repack. 
>
> I think it'll be "each-their-own" in terms of food, but it might also 
> be fun/nice to bring something to share for (either) evening? 
>
> Let's hear some enthusiasm and make this happen! 
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>

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Re: [RBW] For Sale. Early Rivendell

[John McBurney]

Really beautiful bike. I hope you find it a good home. So sorry you find
you aren’t able to use it I’m 73” or I’d be tempted.

John

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:13 PM Norman Michaels 
wrote:

> Unfortunately, I've aged out of riding my Rivendell. I loved it and would
> like to see it go to an appreciative new owner, not just someone on ebay or
> Craigslist.
> My Riv is an original custom frame from 2000. It was built by the frame
> builder and painter that at the time Grant said were the best. The detaild
> lugs are just beautiful.
> I used it for group rides and never put a rack or bags on it but the front
> and rear dropouts do have eyelets to put one on.
> I have all the original specs of Grant's design. It was built with a pubic
> bone height of 80.6 cm. I'm 5'7" and it should fit someone an inch or two
> taller or shorter.
> I fitted it out with a Campy gruppo.
>
> It's in excellent shape except for a scratch on the top tube, seen in one
> of the pics.
>
> Will at Rivendell told me he thinks it's worth $1,700 but would be fair to
> settle at $1,500, so that's the asking price.
>
> Photos attached. More pics and info available.
>
> Thanks,
> Norman
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS (Soonish): 61cm Romulus complete ($900USD); 60cm Saluki($1500USD); 59cm Clementine frameset ($450USD)

[Mike Williams]

Holy Toledo those are some screaming frameset prices,  damn I wish the Rom was 
a 63cm.   Someone will snatch those up

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Sky Coulter  wrote:
> 
> 
> Pictures of 61cm Romulus and 60 Saluki framesets now available at the 
> following link:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/with/48252267787/
> 
> As I'm running out of available time, if anyone is interested in the saluki 
> frameset for 900 or the romulus frameset for 400 (not including shipping or 
> fees) let me know. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sky in new west
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[RBW] Re: FS (Soonish): 61cm Romulus complete ($900USD); 60cm Saluki($1500USD); 59cm Clementine frameset ($450USD)

[Sky Coulter]

Pictures of 61cm Romulus and 60 Saluki framesets now available at the 
following link:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/with/48252267787/

As I'm running out of available time, if anyone is interested in the saluki 
frameset for 900 or the romulus frameset for 400 (not including shipping or 
fees) let me know. 

Thanks,

Sky in new west

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[RBW] WWT - Nitto Technomic 7cm Stem

[tdusky]

Want to trade Stem - Nitto Technomic 7cm for 8 or 9cm.
Gently used with a light ring at 10cm from the top for 26 mm bars.
thanks
Tom Dusky
Huntington Woods MI

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[RBW] wtb very budget rear hub

[jandrews]

Hello
Looking for a budgety used Deore or similar rear hub , 135mm, 36h. for a 
rim brake wheel.
Thank you

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Re: [RBW] Pedal click driving me batty

[Will Rhea]

Thanks Dan! Gripster rebuild kit just ordered, I bet that'll do it.

Don't want that annoying click going on when I head to the NorCal "Entmoot"
campout weekend after next

Cheers,

-br

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 10:09 PM Dan McNamara  wrote:

> I would definitely try the bearing service on the gripsters. I chased a
> click on my bike for quite a while and finally swapped in a set of RMX
> pedals I had stashed away for the grinpsters. Click gone.
>
> Reminds me to pick up a rebuild kit.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:33 PM, Will Rhea  wrote:
>
> Thanks Ian! I'll keep this in mind.
>
> Looks like they have a Thin Gripster bearing / rebuild kit on the Riv
> site, I'm going to go ahead and try that for now.
>
> Cheers
>
> -br
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:08 PM Ian A  wrote:
>
>> If using a Shimano sealed bottom bracket with the plastic spacer, check
>> the spacer is not cracked. A cracked spacer can cause a rhythmic click.
>>
>> IanA
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Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Hunter Ellis]

Overtightening a spoke usually causes the nipple or spoke to fail, not the 
rim. Seems like a rim failure that, well, maybe is expected after 10 years 
of braking on that surface, or maybe its a flaw, fault of the rim itself. 
The rim should be the last thing to give, not the first

-Hunter

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 12:20:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> thanks all for the responses so far.  and shame on me for posting hastily 
> upon arriving at work before actually having a look at the wheel.  because 
> the source of the issue is, well...pretty obvious.  is it possible that 
> this was caused by an under (or un-) skilled mechanic doing a terrible 
> truing job?!?  ayiyi...
>
> [image: IMG-20190710-00921.jpg]
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:14 PM Hunter Ellis  > wrote:
>
>> In my experience, a well built 32h wheel is just fine for 
>> everything...Mountian Bikes have 32 holes these days.
>>
>> You can get a new XT deore rim brake hub for $42, which should last as 
>> long as anything else.
>>
>> The Velocity Quill is a great road rim if you're running wider tires than 
>> 35's, the A23 if not. Sapim/DT Swiss double butted spokes and brass 
>> nipples. Boom. THe Velo Orange PBP rim worked well for me on tires up to 
>> 35mm wide, and is a much cheaper option (on sale for $43 right now!). But 
>> it doesn't have machined sidewalls, which means its easy for your brakes to 
>> squeal. And I"d trust the Velocities over the VO's to last another 10 years.
>>
>> I probably recommended things on the lighter side than a lot of Riv 
>> folks, but...If you're lean, and don't ride on singletrack with a heavy 
>> load, I'd be surprised if a well-built wheel broke. Most important thing, I 
>> think, is who builds it. So get a trusted bike mechanic to lace it up, and 
>> it should last a while.
>>
>>
>> My posts are usually delayed for a few days, so by the time you see this, 
>> 100 pther people might have better ideas ;-)
>>
>> -Hunter
>> Sebastopol, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 6:17:53 AM UTC-7, Paul Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>> howdy folks
>>>
>>> i've been riding the stock wheel that came on my 67 homer back in 2011.  
>>> i haven't been the best about maintenance, to say the least, and what i 
>>> thought was just a bit out of true turned very rapidly into a significant 
>>> wobble.  basically i think i'm due for a new rear wheel and am curious to 
>>> hear if anyone has general thoughts or some pointers toward where to narrow 
>>> down the options and make a solid decision.  currently it's a rich built, 
>>> velocity rimmed, 36-spoke, deore x7 nine-speed.  and like i said it's been 
>>> great since '11.  looking for something similarly reliable.  i'm a pretty 
>>> lean guy but have a large saddle bag that i sometimes weigh down pretty 
>>> well, but no loaded touring or anything so far (and, sadly, nothing planned 
>>> for the near future).
>>>
>>> i get that this is all very personal but with the number of combinations 
>>> of *everything *i get a bit overwhelmed and would love input from folks 
>>> who think more deeply about these things than i.
>>>
>>> thanks a ton!
>>> paul
>>> takoma park, md.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 100 135 wheelset .. Chris King? White Industries?

[Jonathan Kim]

What tire size were you running on them? And do you have a 135 adapter?

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:23 AM Forrest Harvey 
wrote:

> I have a set of all silver white industries mi5 36h to atlas rims. Should
> be able to handle 55 tires.
> It is spaced at 130 but can be respaced easily.
>
> Practically brand new under 1000 miles
>
> On Jul 4, 2019, at 12:27 PM, hunqapillarsrule! 
> wrote:
>
> If anyone has a 700c wheelset with Chris King or White industries hubs
> that they are willing to part with please send me an email!
>
> Need something with 135 spacing and width for a 55mm tire!
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Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Garth]

   Not necessarily, if the rims happen to be the offset Synergy's they were 
known for cracking like the photo. Velocity's warranty covered exactly what 
, I don't know. 



On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 3:20:21 PM UTC-4, Paul Richardson wrote:
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> thanks all for the responses so far.  and shame on me for posting hastily 
> upon arriving at work before actually having a look at the wheel.  because 
> the source of the issue is, well...pretty obvious.  is it possible that 
> this was caused by an under (or un-) skilled mechanic doing a terrible 
> truing job?!?  
>
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[RBW] Re: Looking for some inexpensive parts

[Patrick Moore]

Sorry, not "end of week" but "early next week."

Thanks.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:53 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'm tuning up a friend's child's mountain bike and I could use a pair of
> inexpensive but all metal brake levers and grips (usual steel mtb bar). It
> would be nice to get these by end of week, if that's possible.
>
> This is probably something for the bike shop, but I could also use a
> "thorn proof" 24" (twenty four inch) tube for 2" tires.
>
> Also, if anyone has any little doodad for the bike that might interest a
> 10-year-old boy -- interesting horn, bar-mount compass, rifle holster, what
> have you -- I'd be interested in buying that, too.
>
> Will of course pay for goods and Priority shipping.
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Looking for some inexpensive parts

[Patrick Moore]

I'm tuning up a friend's child's mountain bike and I could use a pair of
inexpensive but all metal brake levers and grips (usual steel mtb bar). It
would be nice to get these by end of week, if that's possible.

This is probably something for the bike shop, but I could also use a "thorn
proof" 24" (twenty four inch) tube for 2" tires.

Also, if anyone has any little doodad for the bike that might interest a
10-year-old boy -- interesting horn, bar-mount compass, rifle holster, what
have you -- I'd be interested in buying that, too.

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 100 135 wheelset .. Chris King? White Industries?

[Forrest Harvey]

I have a set of all silver white industries mi5 36h to atlas rims. Should be 
able to handle 55 tires.
It is spaced at 130 but can be respaced easily. 

Practically brand new under 1000 miles 

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 12:27 PM, hunqapillarsrule!  wrote:
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> If anyone has a 700c wheelset with Chris King or White industries hubs that 
> they are willing to part with please send me an email!
> 
> Need something with 135 spacing and width for a 55mm tire!
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[RBW] A Family Clementine

[Pondero]

Burgundy looks fabulous on you!

Thanks for the story, and the poignant reminder to use our time well, and love 
our families thoroughly.

Chris Johnson
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[RBW] Re: A Family Clementine

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Wonderful story, poignant reminder.  Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Hunter Ellis]

In my experience, a well built 32h wheel is just fine for 
everything...Mountian Bikes have 32 holes these days.

You can get a new XT deore rim brake hub for $42, which should last as long 
as anything else.

The Velocity Quill is a great road rim if you're running wider tires than 
35's, the A23 if not. Sapim/DT Swiss double butted spokes and brass 
nipples. Boom. THe Velo Orange PBP rim worked well for me on tires up to 
35mm wide, and is a much cheaper option (on sale for $43 right now!). But 
it doesn't have machined sidewalls, which means its easy for your brakes to 
squeal. And I"d trust the Velocities over the VO's to last another 10 years.

I probably recommended things on the lighter side than a lot of Riv folks, 
but...If you're lean, and don't ride on singletrack with a heavy load, I'd 
be surprised if a well-built wheel broke. Most important thing, I think, is 
who builds it. So get a trusted bike mechanic to lace it up, and it should 
last a while.


My posts are usually delayed for a few days, so by the time you see this, 
100 pther people might have better ideas ;-)

-Hunter
Sebastopol, CA

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> howdy folks
>
> i've been riding the stock wheel that came on my 67 homer back in 2011.  i 
> haven't been the best about maintenance, to say the least, and what i 
> thought was just a bit out of true turned very rapidly into a significant 
> wobble.  basically i think i'm due for a new rear wheel and am curious to 
> hear if anyone has general thoughts or some pointers toward where to narrow 
> down the options and make a solid decision.  currently it's a rich built, 
> velocity rimmed, 36-spoke, deore x7 nine-speed.  and like i said it's been 
> great since '11.  looking for something similarly reliable.  i'm a pretty 
> lean guy but have a large saddle bag that i sometimes weigh down pretty 
> well, but no loaded touring or anything so far (and, sadly, nothing planned 
> for the near future).
>
> i get that this is all very personal but with the number of combinations 
> of *everything *i get a bit overwhelmed and would love input from folks 
> who think more deeply about these things than i.
>
> thanks a ton!
> paul
> takoma park, md.
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[RBW] WTB: 100 135 wheelset .. Chris King? White Industries?

[hunqapillarsrule!]

If anyone has a 700c wheelset with Chris King or White industries hubs that 
they are willing to part with please send me an email!

Need something with 135 spacing and width for a 55mm tire!

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[RBW] WTB: 55cm Joe Appaloosa

[Adam Adeane]

Would prefer in silver and frame set only, but open to what's available.

Adam
Brooklyn, NY

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[RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Garth]

 
Yes, check the hub first of all .  A wheel built by Rich should not 
"just start to wobble" due to the build itself, regardless of time and 
"normal-intended" use. If in doubt, I'd call or email Rich before taking it* 
any* shop. 

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[RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Ian A]

What Joe says, but also check the hub itself. Loose cones can cause a wobble. A 
cracked hub flange will also cause wobble.

Even a worn out rim will hold true if there are no cracks in the rim itself. 
There is also a possibility the thread on one or more spokes/nipples has for 
some reason stripped. This is a simple matter of replacing the affected spoke 
and/or nipple.

Definitely try another bike shop or just return to the first one and ask them 
to take a closer look. A component that's failing (like one with a stripping 
thread) might hold adjustment in the truing stand, but fail under stress. The 
shop will probably appreciate a second try at it. Just make sure the mechanic 
actually has some proper experience with building wheels (not just truing them).

IanA

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[RBW] Re: thoughts on a new wheel

[Paul Richardson]

that was my first step, and the wobble improved briefly.  now it's worse 
than it was.  maybe i gotta try another bike shop.

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> Unless the brake track is worn out I'd start with having the wheel trued. 
> Rich-builts last a stonking long time. 

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[RBW] thoughts on a new wheel

[Joe Bernard]

Unless the brake track is worn out I'd start with having the wheel trued. 
Rich-builts last a stonking long time. 

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[RBW] Re: "Sadly, Long Shen is closing" Another loss to lugged steel frame production

[Johnny Alien]

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/2019-no-6-early-march-brake-pads-free-books-more-bootses

"We had a short scare from our lugmaker. Most of the employees are near 
retirement, and they-the-owners aren't going to keep on making lugs for 
multitudinous more years; but the scare was that -- for a while there -- it 
looked like we wouldn't be able to get any more lugs, period. We were living 
with that for three days, and came up with plan to deal with it. Now we're set 
thru this year at least, and have the opportunity to buy tons for the future. 
Lugs are expensive, so our capacity to buy is limited, but at least we can get 
them."

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Stems, Shimano & Tektro Levers, Sackville & North St. Bags and more

[Brett Callahan]

Dirt drop, pads, 90mm technomic, 60 mm technomic, friction shifters, and 
North St. Bag are now sold. Updated list: 

*Stems: *

Nitto Technomic 25.4 x 110mm (220 tall) $25 Decent shape. Insertion marks 
and scratches. 


Nitto Stem (not technomic--I think Pear--nicer, more satin finish) $35 Very 
nice shape. Essentially new. 



*Grips: *

Oury Lock-on flat bar grips. $18. Good/newish shape. Scratch on one. See 
photo. 

Plastic Retro Grips $10. As used by Riv on the early Clem Smiths. 

*Bags: *

Sackville Medium Blue Saddle Sack. $175. Good condition. Used for a few 
months of commutes and a couple overnights.  Top notch quality, but I've 
discovered I prefer to use a traditionally shaped saddlebag.  Mild rub 
marks on the underside of bag from where a tire bumped it.   Includes post 
strap (not pictured).  Does not include the tool bag Riv used to sell these 
with.  Several small pinholes where I had buttons on the right side of the 
flap--see photos.   



*Brake Levers: *

Tektro "City" Canti Brake Levers. $18. Used but very serviceable. 

Tektro V Brake Levers. $18. Very good shape. 

Shimano BL-R780 Deore V Brake Levers. $20 Very good shape. 

Shimano Super SLR Drop Bar Levers. 2 available. Both in fair-good shape. 
$20/set

*Shifting: *

Shimano Altus 8 Speed read derailleur $15. Grant Peterson approved with 
bigger pulleys. 


*Saddles:*

Brooks Professional. $65. I cannot break this thing in and switched to a 
B17. Some signs of use, but in very good shape. 

VO Woman's Sprung Saddle. $40. Lots of use. It looks kinda neat but not as 
nice as a Brooks. It squeaks, but not as much as my sprung Brooks. 

*Misc: *


FSA Metropolis single ring crankset. $40. 175mm arms, 45 tooth. Black 
bashguard on siver. Used and shows it, but in decent shape. 

Soma 27.2 Silver Layback Seatpost. $15. New. May have been inserted but not 
ridden.

Panaracer Pari Moto 650b x 38 mm. $40 for pair. Good shape. Sidewalls are a 
little dirty from a Portland winter, but many, many miles left.  (no photos 
yet) 

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[RBW] Re: A Family Clementine

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Aw, Joe 殺

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[RBW] Re: A Family Clementine

[Joe Bernard]

Your family won the lottery with you, too 

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[RBW] Re: A Family Clementine

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Thanks, Everyone. I was extraordinarily blessed when my husband’s parents 
became my family. “In-law”was never an adequate name for who they were to me; I 
always shuddered using it to refer to them. My father in law was the stuff of 
lore - the most wonderful man who was generous with anything that was his; his 
affection, his time, his prayers and his resources. He poured them out on his 
family and loved us all to pieces. He was a brilliant man who could tell a 
story like no one else; he was pee-your-pants funny, He died unexpectedly at 
62, 9 years ago.

I have often wondered why such good folks have to be taken away at such young 
ages, but I think it’s the wrong question to ask. Maybe the better question is, 
how did I win the lottery when I got assigned to my family? 

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[RBW] thoughts on a new wheel

[Paul Richardson]

howdy folks

i've been riding the stock wheel that came on my 67 homer back in 2011.  i 
haven't been the best about maintenance, to say the least, and what i 
thought was just a bit out of true turned very rapidly into a significant 
wobble.  basically i think i'm due for a new rear wheel and am curious to 
hear if anyone has general thoughts or some pointers toward where to narrow 
down the options and make a solid decision.  currently it's a rich built, 
velocity rimmed, 36-spoke, deore x7 nine-speed.  and like i said it's been 
great since '11.  looking for something similarly reliable.  i'm a pretty 
lean guy but have a large saddle bag that i sometimes weigh down pretty 
well, but no loaded touring or anything so far (and, sadly, nothing planned 
for the near future).

i get that this is all very personal but with the number of combinations of 
*everything 
*i get a bit overwhelmed and would love input from folks who think more 
deeply about these things than i.

thanks a ton!
paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] Re: Life is better after 35

['kobe' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Looks pretty beefy for a 35mm tire, and the price is certainly right.

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Sadly, Long Shen is closing" Another loss to lugged steel frame production

[Christopher Murray]

I think Waterford used HJ lugs around the time they were building the early 
Rivendells. I had a Waterford 2200 that had HJ lugs. 

Chris

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