Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, the previous wool sweater thing was pre-order, too, I bought one. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS- cleaning out the parts bin

[Adam]

One more bump. Lots of good Nitto, brooks, and parts that need a home. Thanks!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_Yp4SYhZedvoqLndkkoQHKKGZit208Wo

Prices listed above. Make me an offer if you’re interested. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[Andrew Letton]

 RBW has done pre-orders for wool jerseys in the past...back when they did the 
nice embroidered RBW jerseys.cheers,Andrew
On Monday, September 16, 2019, 12:35:03 PM GMT+10, Mark Roland 
 wrote:  
 
 I don't believe there has ever been a pre-order for Riv clothing, but of 
course I could be wrong. I don't think it's so much a price thing--get a 
discount for early ordering. He made it very clear that they need to buy a 
fairly big quantity (200?) and so before even doing so, needed to get a 
commitment for a decent amount. That said, it might go up a few bucks, or they 
might not get more, or I suppose there is a chance it might not happen if too 
many people hesitate.

On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 1:20:28 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote:
Howdy,
Grant wrote about this a few blahgs ago.  I am intrigued, but a bit hesitant to 
put down $120 without having some idea of the style of the sweater that is 
being produced.  At the same time, I love the color, and the concept.  I also 
remember that Grant did a collection of wool sweaters a few years ago that I 
skipped, but in hindsight wish I had purchased.
Anyway, here is a link to the sweater:  Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder
If you have placed your order I would love to know your reasoning for doing so.
If any of you remember the previous wool sweaters that Riv. produced, do you 
recall if that was done on a pre-order basis as well?  I'm curious what might 
happen to the price of this sweater after the pre-order period has ended.
Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.
SeanBuffalo, NY



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[RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[Mark Roland]

I don't believe there has ever been a pre-order for Riv clothing, but of 
course I could be wrong. I don't think it's so much a price thing--get a 
discount for early ordering. He made it very clear that they need to buy a 
fairly big quantity (200?) and so before even doing so, needed to get a 
commitment for a decent amount. That said, it might go up a few bucks, or 
they might not get more, or I suppose there is a chance it might not happen 
if too many people hesitate.

On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 1:20:28 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Grant wrote about this a few blahgs ago.  I am intrigued, but a bit 
> hesitant to put down $120 without having some idea of the style of the 
> sweater that is being produced.  At the same time, I love the color, and 
> the concept.  I also remember that Grant did a collection of wool sweaters 
> a few years ago that I skipped, but in hindsight wish I had purchased.
>
> Anyway, here is a link to the sweater:  Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder 
> 
>
> If you have placed your order I would love to know your reasoning for 
> doing so.
>
> If any of you remember the previous wool sweaters that Riv. produced, do 
> you recall if that was done on a pre-order basis as well?  I'm curious what 
> might happen to the price of this sweater after the pre-order period has 
> ended.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Sean
> Buffalo, NY
>

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[RBW] Re: The Final Legolas

[Mark Roland]

A handsome and well appointed machine, Brian. May you have many more happy 
miles!

On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 10:01:11 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Got the bars taped and did 53 miles of road & path today. Great riding 
> bike!
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[RBW] Re: The Final Legolas

[Brian Campbell]

Got the bars taped and did 53 miles of road & path today. Great riding bike!











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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Exactly the one! A fine journal, thanks for posting the digital grab, been 
meaning to scan it... (Almost let my print subscription lapse!!)
-Kai 

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[RBW] Re: 63cm Roadeo arrived from Seattle

[Austin B.]

35 miles out in the country on the Roadeo today and man, I like this bike 
more & more. So smooth and comfortable. I topped out at 45mph on one 
downhill. And I rode a dirt section of nearby Sam's Creek Road on it with 
no trouble--something I'd never have attempted on my RB-1 with 25mm rubber.

I'm starting to like the Nitto M178 Mark's bar. But how do others set up 
the angle of these? I've always ridden drops where the top section of the 
bars run parallel to the ground--like Noodles. I originally set the Mark's 
Bar up with the top parallel to the ground. But the levers feel oddly 
placed that way. So it appears I am to rotate the bars downward. But how 
much? Is there a "Standard" or is it a personal preference thing? There is 
surprisingly little on the 'net about these handlebars.

Austin

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[The Snag]

Well I'll be.


[image: Rosco_proof.png]

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[RBW] WTB: Banana Sax Grey or Green

[Birdman]

Hey Ryan, 
Thanks, but I found a green one locally.
Best,
Isaac

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo on Cycle Greater Yellowstone 2019

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Beautiful bike and beautiful ride.  I love the old hungapillar colors on 
your Rodeo.

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[RBW] Re: Creaking + Nitto Noodle stem compatibility

[Evan E.]

Matt D wrote: "Is anyone else running Noodles successfully on other stems 
shorter than a Technomic?"

Yes. I have Noodles attached to a Technomic Deluxe stem. The quill on the 
Technomic Deluxe is shorter than on the Technomic Standard (190mm total 
height versus 225mm).  

http://boulderbicycle.bike/Nitto-Technomic-Deluxe-190-stem-26-0-various-extensions.html

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[RBW] Rough drive train issue

[David Carner]

I have had a similar problem with my 2010 Sam. A little different in that it is 
most noticeable on the drive side down stroke and particularly when spinning 
when not climbing. I put it down to poor peddling technique until it got worse. 
After making sure it was not a crank issue I have determined that there is play 
between the hub body and cassette; radially, not laterally. For the first time 
ever I actually used a torque wrench to tighten the lock ring to the specified 
torque and that has stopped it for now. The cassette is 12-36 Shimano and hub 
is Deore, both from RBW.

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[Steve Cole]

I'm in.  First reason -- I simply want to support Rivendell; I want it to 
continue serving our passionate community for years to come.  I'm more than 
willing to take a $120 chance.  Second -- I can always use a great wool 
sweater.  Third, trusting Grant with the wheels I ride on is much more 
risky than trusting him with his taste in sweaters.  So, I'm all in.



On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 1:20:28 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Grant wrote about this a few blahgs ago.  I am intrigued, but a bit 
> hesitant to put down $120 without having some idea of the style of the 
> sweater that is being produced.  At the same time, I love the color, and 
> the concept.  I also remember that Grant did a collection of wool sweaters 
> a few years ago that I skipped, but in hindsight wish I had purchased.
>
> Anyway, here is a link to the sweater:  Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder 
> 
>
> If you have placed your order I would love to know your reasoning for 
> doing so.
>
> If any of you remember the previous wool sweaters that Riv. produced, do 
> you recall if that was done on a pre-order basis as well?  I'm curious what 
> might happen to the price of this sweater after the pre-order period has 
> ended.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Sean
> Buffalo, NY
>

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[RBW] Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[SeanMac]

Howdy,

Grant wrote about this a few blahgs ago.  I am intrigued, but a bit 
hesitant to put down $120 without having some idea of the style of the 
sweater that is being produced.  At the same time, I love the color, and 
the concept.  I also remember that Grant did a collection of wool sweaters 
a few years ago that I skipped, but in hindsight wish I had purchased.

Anyway, here is a link to the sweater:  Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder 


If you have placed your order I would love to know your reasoning for doing 
so.

If any of you remember the previous wool sweaters that Riv. produced, do 
you recall if that was done on a pre-order basis as well?  I'm curious what 
might happen to the price of this sweater after the pre-order period has 
ended.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.

Sean
Buffalo, NY

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[S]

As much as I would love for the bike to be fully lugged and have a level 
TT, I think you are right that it will most likely have modern Riv geo and 
fewer lugs. So yeah, maybe a more roadish version of the Clem, the latter 
of which Grant says he thinks of as a mountain bike. A new Hunq would be 
fun, but that would make for a lot of frames in the mountain bike category. 

On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 5:40:40 AM UTC-7, Austin B. wrote:
>
> What's in a name?
>
> Charlie Hustle is a nickname for Pete Rose
> Gallop is something a horse does
>
> I'll put my 2 cents in for a mostly tigged, cheaper roadish country bike 
> to replace the Appaloosa and Sam. Modern Riv geo with long chainstays, 
> sloping TT. 
>
> Would they include centerpull brake mounts for 700c road wheels and 
> canti's for 650b offroad wheels on the same bike? Has anyone ever done that?
>
> Austin
>

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[RBW] Rough drive train issue

[Eric G]

I agree — I started by taking it to LBS and did not get an answer. Then I took 
it apart piece by piece and put it back together which also didn’t give me a 
definite answer. Then I took it to RivHQ and Will suggested it just needing 
time to break in which seems entirely plausible. Figured I would post here to 
garner the collective wisdom of folks with similar bikes that may have 
experienced a similar issue which has so far been reassuring. 

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo on Cycle Greater Yellowstone 2019

[reynoldslugs]

Steve, in response to your questions:

For handlebars, agree 100% that Drop Bars are the way to go for a ride like 
this.  

Gearing: my gearing is always exceptionally low.  My Roadeo with  22-34-44 
and a 13-30 may have been the lowest gearing out of  all the riders.  I 
need those low gears - - with the assembled orthopedic and other medical 
issues, and being over 200 pounds,  I just really need super low gears.  
Patellar tendinitis means I never climb out of the saddle at all, so I I 
just spin up the hills.  Which, of course, is a lot easier in the long run.

Most of the other riders did not have gears that low.  If you're fit and 
not too heavy, I would say that a compact double with a 34 tooth inner 
would be ok, as long as you have a 34 tooth low gear on your cassette.  

Two years ago, I did the ride on a Della Santa with an ultra-compact double 
- - 26-40 chainrings, with a SRAM 11-36 cassette.  

The hills were long, but usually not steeper than 6%.  Cycle Greater 
Yellowstone will post the ride profiles several months before the event (I 
think they use Map My Ride, with elevation profiles), so we can all know 
what we're in for.

I did the ride on a Roadeo, and I have a Rambouillet as well.  IMHO both 
bikes are well-suited for the course - your Rambouillet (with triple) would 
be a great choice if you are willing to put on drop bars. 

Good luck, hope to see you next year.

Max
 

>  
>

> So here's the big q: is this ride doable without a granny gear using my 
> compact double.  If forced to ride out of the saddle for an extended period 
> I don't think that adds to a pleasant day.
>
> Any advice based on what others on the trip were using?
>
> Steve Seelig
>
> On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 1:31:19 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote:
>>
>> Hi RBW -
>>
>> Posted a flickr album of this ride, the Cycle Greater Yellowstone ride, 
>> for benefit of the Greater Yellowstone Coalition.
>>
>> We did about 240 miles over 5 days of riding, 22k climbing.  I rode my 
>> Roadeo - always love riding that bike.
>>
>> Beautiful scenery in Red Lodge, MT; Absarokee; Yellowstone River, 
>> Sunlight River and Bridge; Beartooth Pass and Chief Joseph Highway.
>>
>> The Greater Yellowstone Area around Montana and Wyoming is really lovely. 
>> I can't say enough about the scenery, mountains, and good condition of the 
>> roads.
>>
>> Beartooth Pass was hard, but worth it.  The pass tops out close to 
>> 11,000' - - I haven't climbed like that since the Markleeville Death ride 8 
>> or 9 years ago.
>>
>> Pics here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157710643614821
>>
>> I rode my Roadeo, with a mostly Campagnolo drive train, aided and abetted 
>> by a Shimano Deore 737 triple (22-34-44), which was essential to getting 
>> over some of those passes. I don't wear that Fat Cyclist jersey for 
>> nothing...
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Max Beach
>> Santa Rosa CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Rough drive train issue

[Kevin Mulcahy]

Questions like this are best answered at your LBS, not over the ‘net. I’m sure 
an experienced mechanic could pinpoint the issue in a matter of minutes once 
they get one the bike. 

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[RBW] WTB: Banana Sax Grey or Green

[Ryan M.]

Hey Isaac,

I sent you an email about my grey one.

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo on Cycle Greater Yellowstone 2019

[Paul Richardson]

thanks for sharing.  great photos.  "leaving montana," now there's a sign 
i'd like to pass while riding a riv.
paul
takoma park, md.

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 1:31:19 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> Hi RBW -
>
> Posted a flickr album of this ride, the Cycle Greater Yellowstone ride, 
> for benefit of the Greater Yellowstone Coalition.
>
> We did about 240 miles over 5 days of riding, 22k climbing.  I rode my 
> Roadeo - always love riding that bike.
>
> Beautiful scenery in Red Lodge, MT; Absarokee; Yellowstone River, Sunlight 
> River and Bridge; Beartooth Pass and Chief Joseph Highway.
>
> The Greater Yellowstone Area around Montana and Wyoming is really lovely. 
> I can't say enough about the scenery, mountains, and good condition of the 
> roads.
>
> Beartooth Pass was hard, but worth it.  The pass tops out close to 11,000' 
> - - I haven't climbed like that since the Markleeville Death ride 8 or 9 
> years ago.
>
> Pics here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157710643614821
>
> I rode my Roadeo, with a mostly Campagnolo drive train, aided and abetted 
> by a Shimano Deore 737 triple (22-34-44), which was essential to getting 
> over some of those passes. I don't wear that Fat Cyclist jersey for 
> nothing...
>
> best,
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>

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[RBW] Re: 63cm Roadeo arrived from Seattle

[Paul Richardson]

nice report on a great looking bike.  sykesville's streets are lucky!
paul
takoma park, md.

On Saturday, September 14, 2019 at 2:46:03 PM UTC-4, Austin B. wrote:
>
> So the 63cm Roadeo I bought off the Seattle Craigslist arrived in Maryland 
> this week.  First, I owe a word of thanks to those here who PM'd me and 
> posted the link to the Seattle CL add--else I never would have seen it. 
> Also, a nod to Bill Lindsay and his recent Roadeo acquisition which was 
> most educational and inspired my build and the format of this post.
>
> *Condition:* The original owner bought it from RBW in 2014--and judging 
> by it, it has *maybe* a couple hundred miles on it. No dents, only a 
> couple minor scuffs, else this bike is pristine. I've never bought a full 
> bike from Riv, but this one was built up by Mark (there was a piece of 
> paper saying so). Seeing how he built things--cable lengths and routing, 
> bar tape, the component installs was a surprise bonus for me--excellent 
> craftsmanship.
>
> *First Impressions on a short shakedown ride:* I've read about the ride 
> quality, the responsiveness, etc. from many on this forum and it's what I 
> was going after. Not disappointed! I found the Roadeo to be extremely 
> smooth, very responsive but not the least bit twitchy, and it climbed well 
> without a propensity to pop wheelies. 
>
> There's one fast downhill with a bend at the bottom that I've taken dozens 
> of times with the other bikes I've owned. Taking it at speed, some bikes 
> (my Sam & BMC Monster Cross) drift a bit outside, whereas my RB-1 can turn 
> on a dime but is a little to twitchy & uncontrollable to keep me confident 
> so I often tap the brakes. The Roadeo easily held my line with confidence.
>
> *The Details:*
>
>
>- Frameset: 63cm Roadeo, threaded fork, FSA Headset
>- Drivetrain: VO 46/30 & BB, Shimano XTR SPD pedals, 105 10-speed RD, 
>Ultegra FD
>- Cockpit: Brooks C15 Carved, Ritchey Seatpost, 46cm Nitto Mark's Bar, 
>Tallux 110mm stem, Ultegra Brifters
>- Wheelset: Compass/RH BJP EL, H+Son Archetype, Ultegra Hubs
>
>
> I'm still tweaking some things and once I lock in a stem, bars, and 
> shifters, I have two rolls of red Newbaums ready to wrap (the only thing 
> NEW going on this bike).
>
> Some photos of what it looks like now. 
> 
>
> Austin B
> Sykesville, MD
>
>

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[RBW] Rough drive train issue

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

I’ve also experienced this and my interpretation is that the chainrings need 
some time to get rid of their "rough” edges (from machining?). Maybe someone 
with a background in tool making can chime in on the manufacturing processes 
and postulate on that?...

I’ve only noticed it on low to mid grade cranks.  Almost always on Sugino 9 sp.

And it always feels gross...but eventually goes away.

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Austin B.]

What's in a name?

Charlie Hustle is a nickname for Pete Rose
Gallop is something a horse does

I'll put my 2 cents in for a mostly tigged, cheaper roadish country bike to 
replace the Appaloosa and Sam. Modern Riv geo with long chainstays, sloping 
TT. 

Would they include centerpull brake mounts for 700c road wheels and canti's 
for 650b offroad wheels on the same bike? Has anyone ever done that?

Austin

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