Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Amit Singh]

Just a quick update for everyone.

I mounted an Ursus Jumbo Double Leg Kickstand on the Mixte and so far it 
works extremely well.

I've also ordered the Hamax Caress Rear Child Bike Seat (for rack), which 
arrives tomorrow, and am looking forward to it. The only bummer is that he 
isn't as close to me as I would like... it's so nice when we are right up 
in the cockpit viewing the world together.

+++

The reason I went with the Hamax Caress Rear Child Bike Seat is because:

1) It is more traditional looking -- I think traffic respects people with 
child seats and want to provide the most well-known example to drivers.

2) In the event of a fall, it provides more coverage - protecting precious 
cargo. The Yepp Minis look as though the passenger is more vulnerable.

3) It was amongst the most highly rated; and one reputable website with 
experienced real-world riders placed it above the Yepp.

+++

Are there other logistics I should be aware of? Do I need to get a pool 
noodle and secure it to the bike seat to ensure cars give me 3 feet?

Also, thank you all for the generous offers to send me stuff and also for 
the wonderful guidance.

As the little one matures, I am looking forward to going on more adventures 
together. So far, he loves riding with me on the bicycle. I think it's his 
favorite thing to do :)

Amit


On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 7:56:39 PM UTC-7, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
> I haven’t transitioned to a rear child seat yet and still have some use 
> left in our Yepp mini front.  I also don’t own a huge Rosco mixte (somewhat 
> regrettably... I chose a 65cm Clem H instead for a few reasons but kind of 
> wish I had both, though they sold so quickly I’d have missed out anyway.) 
>
> But having recently pulled out the Clem H for fall riding I just tried to 
> mount a pletscher twin leg only to find two issues: 
>
> It does not clear a 29x2.2 (continental mountain king) and the thickness 
> of the kickstand plate did it allow the base of the double kickstand to sit 
> flush. 
>
> So the pletscher went back on the bike it started with and the stock 
> single leg went back on the Clem and all is well. 
>
> Assuming you have similar clearances on the Rosco it’ll likely depend in 
> tire size which stand you’ll need.  I know the incoming Gus Boots-Willsen 
> compensates for tire clearance with an offset bolt hole in the kickstand 
> plate but I’ve just learned the limitations of the pletscher twin legger 
> and will keep it on bikes with sub 2” rubber. 
>
> Best, 
> Brian Cole 
> Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

[Joe Bernard]

Jim: The cost at the moment is high, all I'm seeing on searches is $1749, which 
is full price. I've seen them as low as $1400 this summer, though, so keep an 
eye out. I got mine used. (Keep in mind the whole motor-and-battery system is 
in the hub, a lot of low-price hub kits out there list motor and battery prices 
separately).

It's a torque-sensing pedal assist system which reacts to how hard you press 
the pedals. The best way to describe it is levels of tailwind: If you very 
lightly pedal, you'll get a light tailwind; mash the pedals and the wind gets 
much bigger. It's a nice experience because it feels like regular cycling, just 
augmented. 

This cycling experience can be modulated with the power settings, too. There's 
Zero, Eco, Standard and Turbo. I mostly ride in Standard which is a fair amount 
of boost on rolling terrain, but not like a giant motor hammering you down the 
road. I was out a while today, and into strong headwinds and up hills I just 
stayed in Standard and hammered the pedals..I worked up a bit of a sweat. Turbo 
I reserve for traffic when I would rather lead the cars than squeeze between 
them, or near the end of a ride when I'm tired and just want to blast home. 
Range is about 25-30 miles if I stay away from Turbo; I can easily kill the 
battery in 10 miles if I blast it the whole way..so I don't do that!

The nifty thing about this kit over others on the market is it's all 
self-contained, there's no looking for a place to mount the battery, no wires 
strung all over the frame. It's all in the wheel: you flip a switch on the 
wheel itself, then adjust power settings from the app on your phone (I have a 
Quad Lock mount on the bars). The app shows speed, power level and battery 
level; plus records the whole trip including a map trace of the ride. 

I'm very happy with it. I've owned more powerful (like stupid power up to 
40mph, this one tops out at 25) mid-drive kits that are quite the project to 
install and are kinda insane to ride..this one is more manageable for me as a 
cycling experience. A drawback is all the weight is in the back, it can feel a 
little odd until you get adapted. Also, I don't look forward to wrangling it 
off the bike to fix a flat, so I run a tough and heavy Schwalbe back there. My 
first attempt at flat fixing would be to pull the tube from the side of the rim 
and see if I can get the hole patched, but if push comes to shove I can flip 
the bike over and pull the wheel..I carry a 15mm PDW "butter knife" wrench for 
the axle nuts. 

I hope that's clear enough, holler if you have any more questions.  



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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[Joe Bernard]

Ryan, if this bike gets under $2000 I'm going to have a BIG quandary on my 
hands! 

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Brian Campbell]

At 51, I find myself in 2 original rock bands. One with my wife and 
brother-in-law and the other, with long time friends. Writing, rehearsing, 
playing shows, recording music and all of the stuff that comes with it is 
taking most of my free time at the moment. We are all self taught players 
and do it as a creative outlet, with no real aspirations, other than to do 
it. 

That said we have racked up thousands of listens on Spotify etc. and the 
band with my wife was contacted recently by a small label who wants to put 
out our music on vinyl. Perseverance pays! ;-] This was something we all 
did before our children were born and decided to start again, now that they 
are older and starting their own lives. 

The two worlds occasionally (cycling & playing music) collide as they will 
in early November when I have to play a show on 11/2 (late night affair) 
and do a 100k gravel ride on 11/3. We shall see how I fare.

On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 at 10:40:12 AM UTC-4, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> What an interesting bunch of folks, I wish more of you lived closer to me.
>
> While my wife was pregnant I worked on reducing my hobbies, so that I 
> could spend more time with my son.  I picked music (guitar) and reading as 
> things I could do either alone or with him.  He's 13 and we still play 
> music together sometimes, and still read the occasional book out loud to 
> each other.  The key thing I try to include is that it should be music or 
> books that are new to both of us, or already loved by both of us, so there 
> is a shared sense of exploration or appreciation.
>
> Later we started biking as an activity we could do together as a family, 
> and I still ride with my son a lot.  But we also spend time walking by the 
> river, skipping stones, talking about stuff, birding, etc.  These are all 
> good times, year round.
>
> Over time my son and I have also had a great time exploring and 
> experimenting with the simple machines (lever, inclined plane, pulley, etc).
>
> Outside of family time, I run a fencing school where I research and teach 
> historical swordplay, and also translate renaissance era fencing texts to 
> English.  This is my main outlet for spending time with other adults.
>
> Finally, my woodworking hobby has been on hiatus for a long time, but I'm 
> starting to get into that again.  Designing stuff and making it is pretty 
> rewarding.
>

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I would value it between $2500-$3000 also.  Only problem being a lot of 
individuals who want to spend that kind of money want something new (even if 
not better).  The biggest hit would be the beautiful build (full builds) just 
don’t hold values well.  I would say the frame etc is worth $1500+.
Also not needing to sell can allow you to name a fair price and wait for the 
right future owner to surface.  If you had an upset wife or something other 
motivating reason to dump and cash out. $1800-$2000 would send this list into a 
tizzy and people would be scrambling to dump one of their bikes to upgrade to 
your beautifully painted and decked out Bombadil.  
Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan
P. S. Took my wife single tracking today and road my 64cm Bombadil at one point 
she asked, “why are you even riding that, it is not even a mountain bike”.  

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[Dan McNamara]

I sold a 52 Bomba with the clear coat treatment (complete with racks) in 2015 
for $1950. It was a good build (Rich built wheels etc) but no dyno and no bags. 

Dan

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> I’d ballpark the frame fork headset and bars at like $1600. To replicate the 
> build you buyer would need to budget around $4500 but most buyers prefer to 
> do their own thing. If you insist on selling it complete you’ll be in the 
> $2600 to $3000 range I suspect. 
> 
> If it were me I would sell bags and racks separately to maximize my return. 
> 
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wish there were more guys willing to man up and apologize after potentially 
being corrected on the list.  Many tend to dig in and keep firing volleys.  
Usually each or both are correct from the perspective they are examining the 
topic from; but wrong from the perspective of the opposition.  
Lots of room for interpretation usually within the lines and words.

Ryan Hankinson

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[Joe Bernard]

"You're welcome for missing the point." 

I have been informed by a nicer person than myself that you are correct. I 
retract what I said. Whatever it was I said. 

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

[Jim D Massachusetts]

Could you share a bit about how the wheel works and what it 
costs?Jim DMassachusetts

On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 7:21:34 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It's electric! 
>
> On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 11:47:40 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > Jake, I have 2.0 with fenders. I think 2.3 without is about the limit at 
> the fork, maybe a smidge more in the rear. That's a pretty A/R!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[christian poppell]

I broke my collarbone a few years ago. As a result, I got into ham radio. 
My girlfriend and I studied and took the licence exam together. You could 
spend a lot of money on gear and equipment but there are a few inexpensive 
radios and many DIY projects that can be done inexpensively. There are 
multiple facets of radio communication to explore. I'm currently working on 
learning Morse code which has been a fun, brain bending adventure. I've 
also joined Summits on the Air which involves hiking (or cycling) to 
registered peaks, logging contacts, and getting points for the peak. Check 
it out at https://www.sota.org.uk/

73

Christian
Berkeley, CA

On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 1:54:47 PM UTC-7, ericf3 wrote:
>
> I have a number of activities but will mention one that has tied in with 
> riding in the past. I became a radio fan and DXer in my teens and have 
> retained an interest through today. My interest in mostly AM/MW, and 
> shortwave. I have carried a small portable on my rides, either overnights, 
> or up great hills. Currently use a Sony ICF-SW7600GR.
>
> When I was a baseball fan, I would take a portable up one of the local 
> mountains and listen to a game from a Washington state broadcaster. (In the 
> 90s, much of the post-season was not available in the Vancouver market.)
>
> When in eastern Ontario at the cottage, I have pedaled up to a high point 
> (Foymount) and listened at sunset for interesting signals.
>
> FM and TV DX is a thing, but has not interested me. Yet.
>
> More info:  
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXing
>
> I have been a member of the Ontario DX Association, the IRCA, and NRC, and 
> found membership helpful and rewarding.
>
> EricF
> Big 10-4
> Vancouver BC
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Bosco Bullmoose, Silver Wide Low -- For your new Clem L frameset!

[Andrew Nussbaum]

Mark,

What's the BB size?

Best,

Andrew

On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:27:24 PM UTC-6, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Here is the Riv Silver Wide/Low crank, 38/24, 173. Came off my Clementine. 
> Low mileage, chainrings Excellent. Some rust on the bolts holding the 
> granny ring. Some light scratching on the arms, could be buffed out if 
> that's your style. Pedal threads, bb axle holes all fine. Reason for sale 
> is I am getting a used complete Clem, so as wonderful as this crank is, I 
> don't need two. BB included (I need to find the drive side cup.) Hard to 
> photograph, even under cloudy skies. If you right click on the image, then 
> select View Image, you can see it in more detail. Good used condition, will 
> look great and work as required for a long time! $155 plus shipping. 
>
> [image: MVIMG_20191006_123456198.jpg]
>
>
> [image: MVIMG_20191006_123446399.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 8:52:02 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Photos of Crankset coming tomorrow. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto Big Front Rack

[J Imler]

See pics here - 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PYXXptQp5KDKsX4ARGjcy_n5fRGlInSc?usp=sharing

On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 at 10:46:12 AM UTC-7, J Imler wrote:
>
> $140.00 plus shipping CONUS.
>
> PM off list for pics and/or questions.
>

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[RBW] FS Nitto Big Front Rack

[J Imler]

$140.00 plus shipping CONUS.

PM off list for pics and/or questions.

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[RBW] Re: FS Bosco Bullmoose, Silver Wide Low -- For your new Clem L frameset!

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hopefully the first responder ⛑ took care of a bar emergency .  Sorry to much 
time on a sharp but unchallenged retired mind.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[David Bivins]

Whoops - forgot photography! I shoot 35mm mostly, some medium format, and,
about once a year, 4x5. I develop my own black and white film (then scan
it). I bring my color film (rare) to a mom-and-pop photo shop here in
Brooklyn, but I'm going to start developing it myself more often (only done
it once). My camera habit is like the bike habit is for some of you - N+1.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 10:30 AM David Bivins  wrote:

> My hobbies:
>
> Analog (mostly) synthesizers and effects; playing with and building. It's
> pretty inexpensive to get into building electronics. You can start with
> some simple hand tools (screwdrivers, wrenches) and an entry-level
> soldering iron. As with bikes, you can crank up the geekiness (and expense)
> as high as you'd like. Aion Electronics (https://aionelectronics.com/) is
> a great source for kits (and printed circuit boards if you want to buy your
> own parts) for building clones of many classic and rare guitar pedals. If
> you play guitar or another electronic instrument, you can then use it! I
> find the smell of rosin on a rainy day to be quite relaxing ;) (kidding
> kind of - get a fan).
> I've built a large modular synthesizer in the older 5U format (MOTM for
> the fellow travelers, 30+ modules). The modules were offered as kits back
> in the 90s and I saved my pennies for each one. It's now an impressive
> instrument from which I can coax sounds never heard before.
> I repair older, simpler analog machines, such as old drum machines. I find
> them broken or "as-is" on eBay, fix them, then sell them or add them to my
> collection. If you start with a single model and get to know it well,
> you'll become proficient pretty quickly and learn a lot that will help you
> with your next model.
>
> Playing music with my adolescent son. He plays b-flat clarinet and I play
> b-flat trumpet. He has trouble sight-reading the music, so we play
> together. It keeps my embouchure intact and is genuinely helpful for him.
>
> Helping my child with homework. I know, hobby?! Yeah. He's dyslexic, so
> diving deep into that and learning (and helping him learn) strategies for
> playing to his strengths and getting around his weaknesses is exciting,
> challenging, and super useful.
>
> Bettering myself. I used to shun the "self-help" category like the plague,
> but I'm now very interested in flexing mental muscles I've long ignored due
> to my half-baked DIY attitude ("I don't need help!"). Example: How to Be a
> Stoic by Massimo Pigliucci. Really good stuff to incorporate into my life
> and outlook.
>
> Coaching and refereeing youth soccer. Holy cow refereeing is difficult
> when one has never been a soccer fan. When my kid joined a team, I had fun
> watching. Then they were short on coaches, so I said "what the hell, OK"
> (it's AYSO so it's only competitive in the game you're playing - there are
> no tournaments or rankings). When they were short on referees I said "this
> is a terrible idea, but OK." Fun fact - the kids yell at the ref more than
> the parents do. And these kids are too young to caution or send off :)
>
> Volunteering at a community garden. I know nothing about gardening. But I
> seem to have a knack for getting people to volunteer for things, and I've
> taught myself how to build pretty nice raised beds and a chicken coop. I
> was membership coordinator, so I got to meet everyone, and eventually I
> became the garden coordinator - basically setting in motion stuff the
> steering committee and the garden overall votes on. It's a great way to
> spend a weekend - kind of like the rural property someone else mentioned.
> There's always something to do, and there's rarely a deadline for when to
> get it done. I also grow a ton of my own garlic now, so I have that!
>
> David in Brooklyn
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

What an interesting bunch of folks, I wish more of you lived closer to me.

While my wife was pregnant I worked on reducing my hobbies, so that I could 
spend more time with my son.  I picked music (guitar) and reading as things 
I could do either alone or with him.  He's 13 and we still play music 
together sometimes, and still read the occasional book out loud to each 
other.  The key thing I try to include is that it should be music or books 
that are new to both of us, or already loved by both of us, so there is a 
shared sense of exploration or appreciation.

Later we started biking as an activity we could do together as a family, 
and I still ride with my son a lot.  But we also spend time walking by the 
river, skipping stones, talking about stuff, birding, etc.  These are all 
good times, year round.

Over time my son and I have also had a great time exploring and 
experimenting with the simple machines (lever, inclined plane, pulley, etc).

Outside of family time, I run a fencing school where I research and teach 
historical swordplay, and also translate renaissance era fencing texts to 
English.  This is my main outlet for spending time with other adults.

Finally, my woodworking hobby has been on hiatus for a long time, but I'm 
starting to get into that again.  Designing stuff and making it is pretty 
rewarding.

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[David Bivins]

My hobbies:

Analog (mostly) synthesizers and effects; playing with and building. It's
pretty inexpensive to get into building electronics. You can start with
some simple hand tools (screwdrivers, wrenches) and an entry-level
soldering iron. As with bikes, you can crank up the geekiness (and expense)
as high as you'd like. Aion Electronics (https://aionelectronics.com/) is a
great source for kits (and printed circuit boards if you want to buy your
own parts) for building clones of many classic and rare guitar pedals. If
you play guitar or another electronic instrument, you can then use it! I
find the smell of rosin on a rainy day to be quite relaxing ;) (kidding
kind of - get a fan).
I've built a large modular synthesizer in the older 5U format (MOTM for the
fellow travelers, 30+ modules). The modules were offered as kits back in
the 90s and I saved my pennies for each one. It's now an impressive
instrument from which I can coax sounds never heard before.
I repair older, simpler analog machines, such as old drum machines. I find
them broken or "as-is" on eBay, fix them, then sell them or add them to my
collection. If you start with a single model and get to know it well,
you'll become proficient pretty quickly and learn a lot that will help you
with your next model.

Playing music with my adolescent son. He plays b-flat clarinet and I play
b-flat trumpet. He has trouble sight-reading the music, so we play
together. It keeps my embouchure intact and is genuinely helpful for him.

Helping my child with homework. I know, hobby?! Yeah. He's dyslexic, so
diving deep into that and learning (and helping him learn) strategies for
playing to his strengths and getting around his weaknesses is exciting,
challenging, and super useful.

Bettering myself. I used to shun the "self-help" category like the plague,
but I'm now very interested in flexing mental muscles I've long ignored due
to my half-baked DIY attitude ("I don't need help!"). Example: How to Be a
Stoic by Massimo Pigliucci. Really good stuff to incorporate into my life
and outlook.

Coaching and refereeing youth soccer. Holy cow refereeing is difficult when
one has never been a soccer fan. When my kid joined a team, I had fun
watching. Then they were short on coaches, so I said "what the hell, OK"
(it's AYSO so it's only competitive in the game you're playing - there are
no tournaments or rankings). When they were short on referees I said "this
is a terrible idea, but OK." Fun fact - the kids yell at the ref more than
the parents do. And these kids are too young to caution or send off :)

Volunteering at a community garden. I know nothing about gardening. But I
seem to have a knack for getting people to volunteer for things, and I've
taught myself how to build pretty nice raised beds and a chicken coop. I
was membership coordinator, so I got to meet everyone, and eventually I
became the garden coordinator - basically setting in motion stuff the
steering committee and the garden overall votes on. It's a great way to
spend a weekend - kind of like the rural property someone else mentioned.
There's always something to do, and there's rarely a deadline for when to
get it done. I also grow a ton of my own garlic now, so I have that!

David in Brooklyn

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Ginz]

Shortwave radio listening, scanner monitoring, and a tiny bit of Amateur radio, 
but not much. 

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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Dan McNamara]

I have a few hobbies that ebb and flow depending on what else is going on. 

Rebuilding lever espresso machines. 
Mostly the smaller machines like La Pavoni, Olympia Cremina, Sama. Friends find 
machines at garage sales and I’ll fix them up and show them how to use them. 
Parts are readily available. Nice combination of wrenching, plumbing and 
electrical. Occasionally I’ll sell one to fund further endeavors. 

Playing guitar and ukulele. 
Working on this with my 8 year old daughter. A WIP on both our parts. 
 
Film photography.
I have been down the photography route before. Decided to leave the Nikon SLR 
alone this time and use a fixed lens rangefinder. Decent ones are fairly 
inexpensive - there have been lots of good recommendations on the list 
recently. Tuning up a older camera can be pretty satisfying. Replacing light 
seals or a stuck shutter is not too difficult but does require a clean space 
and concentration. Then you get to take pictures with it. 

Friends have tried to get me interested in other things - stamp or coin 
collecting, baseball cards, Frank Zappa records etc - but I have so far 
resisted. 


Dan






> On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:19 PM, dstein  wrote:
> 
> I feel like this has come up before but could only find a thread from 2010: 
> what are your non-bike hobbies? Particularly anyone with young kids that suck 
> up all your other time or involve them. I haven't been riding since an 
> accident earlier this year. My wife says I need a hobby. I don't disagree. 
> Bonus points if it's thrifty, because damn I've spent a lot of money at 
> Rivendell over the years.
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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

[Christopher Cote]

Judas!

Sorry, couldn't help myself, haha. Very nicely done. That's the classiest 
electric motorcycle with pedals anyone will ever see. Enjoy!

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil

[George Rosselle]

I have seen this bike in person and can honestly say the photos don't do it 
justice. It is a beautiful and functional bike. The buyer will be very 
happy. As far as sale price I think Bill is correct, probably $2600-$3000. 
It cost a lot more to build but all that matters is what someone will pay. 



On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 5:05:14 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
>
> Garth
>
> It’s not a bad idea. I do get more joy from giving things away than the 
> cash brings. In the past few months I’ve given my Scott Sub 10 belt drive 
> bike to a young couple and that makes me very happy. 
>
> However in this instance I need to raise some money to fund another bike 
> project without pissing my wife of 40 years off too much. I did offer it at 
> roughly half of what it has been valued here to a local friend but he was 
> unable to take advantage of the opportunity In this instance the joy will 
> come not from maximizing profit but rather in the knowledge that someone 
> who really loves these bikes will be able to enjoy it. 
>
> It truly is special and I know someone will be very happy with it. 
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:01 PM Garth > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>   John, although the bike doesn't fit you, it doesn't sound like you 
>> really want to sell it, or at least go through "the process" of sale and 
>> all that may include.  Who says you have to sell it and for what cost , and 
>> what makes them some sort of authority over your own sense ?   Hell, you 
>> can do anything you want with it, sell it or give it away.  I've had many 
>> things that I once enjoyed, or thought I did, that I have even given away 
>> to people who had use for them.  Seeing or hearing the joy of someone using 
>> those "things" is priceless.  I'm not telling you to do anything or not, 
>> you already know exactly what that is. 
>>
>>   Really it's not going to make any difference regardless of what you do 
>> with the bike. 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:54:00 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I’m considering sellingBombadil. What do you think a reasonable price 
>>> would be?  It’s a Waterford frame, Joe Bell paint. Nitto, Sun XCD, SON, 
>>> Bush and Mueller,  Honjo, Brooks, Compass. Nicer than any 10 year old bike 
>>> has a right to be. 
>>>
>>> It’s just too short for me and I’m not riding it. 
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Ray Varella]

This list is full of interesting and community minded members. You are an 
inspiring group. 

I’ve been involved with Parrots for nearly 40 years. 
I fly them outdoors as well as photographing them in flight. 
I do free behavioral consulting to help people better understand their birds 
and prevent unwanted behaviors. 

I also have a small commercial coffee roaster, I use much of the profits to 
help support an in situ nest box program in Bolivia for a critically endangered 
species of Macaw. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[brendonoid]

This seems so far afield here but my biggest hobby outside of cycling is 
tabletop games. Specifically D for me but its a big exciting world of 
tabletop out there.
Adult play is so important for mental health and often gets shunned as 
something for kids. It's not. Using your imagination is great.

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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Nick Payne]

I play classical guitar (badly), and competition English billiards and 
snooker at a reasonably high level. I guess the guitar probably averages 
around 1hr/day and the billiards and snooker two or three hours a time two 
or three times a week.

Nick

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