[RBW] Re: Crankset & STI Compatibility

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 9:20:32 AM UTC-7, RDS wrote:
>
> Anyone know if Sugino XO601 Compact Plus double cranksets are compatible 
> with STI shifters?  Thinking 42-28 for a Roadini.  If STI is compatable w/ 
> this type of crank, what is the biggest cog that I can put on the rear if 
> using a FD such as CX70.  Probably thinking 9 speed, will consider 10.  Any 
> advice appreciated.
>

I'm not sure what restrictions using Sugino OX601 cranks imposes on 
shifters. The issue is usually compatibility between the front derailleur 
and the STI shifters, since derailleurs have to accommodate the specific 
cable pulls of the STI shifters (unlike, for instance, the "stepless" 
actuation of Ergopowers or friction shifters). It's probably more useful to 
ask if the specific STI shifter you're thinking of will actuate a CX-70 
correctly, and the answer is maybe yes. I know that 10-speed "hidden cable" 
Ultegra STI shifters is a definite yes, but other STI shifters have 
different cable pulls. Nevertheless, there is a large fudge factor when it 
comes to adjusting front doubles, as it's essentially a binary system (OK, 
there's also a half-click), so it's highly likely it'll work.

Anyway, the other thing with a smallish 42-28 combo is getting the front 
derailleur low enough without having its cage hit the chainstay. Based on 
my Boulder All-Road (that has similarly large BB drop as your Roadini) 
that's running a 46-30 crank with a CX-70 front derailleur, I'll say you'll 
probably be fine, but it'll be close. If you really want to be sure, try 
the Gevenalle BURD front derailleur 
 (or this 
).
 
It's designed for smaller chainrings 
, cost about 
the same as a CX-70, and works with Shimano road shifters (although not 
sure which versions).

Finally, with regards to the biggest cog you can use, again, I'm not sure 
this has much relevance to what front derailleur you're using, within 
reason. Seeing that you've mentioned 9 and 10 speed, I'm guessing you won't 
be using the extra-large "dinner plate" 50T large cogs borne of the 1X 
revolution, and you're probably looking at a 36T low gear at the extreme. 
With the longish chainstay length that the Roadini has, that shouldn't be a 
problem at all. You may want to instead ensure your rear derailleur has the 
max gear rating for that 36T (or whatever you're thinking of), and enough 
chain wrap capacity for your entire drivetrain setup (shouldn't be too bad 
with a 14T differential double in the front).

Good luck!

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[RBW] Re: Crankset & STI Compatibility

[RDS]

"Shimano 10/9 speed compatible and SRAM 10 speed compatible"  .. is what the 
bike mania website had to say about the xo601

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 Carver titanium coupled $1200

[John McBurney]



On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:41 PM lukeheller  wrote:

> Sold! Thanks John.
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[RBW] FS: Frances Farfarer Trailer - $450 shipped (obo)

[Bob K.]

And sold. Thanks, all!

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: eClem again

[Joe Bernard]

Used. I got it from a guy selling on Bentrider Online. 

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[RBW] Re: FS 58 Carver titanium coupled $1200

[lukeheller]

Sold! Thanks John. 

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[RBW] Re: eClem again

[Jim D Massachusetts]

Thanks for the info. Did you buy the wheel from a dealer or direct from the 
mfg? Jim D   Massachusetts

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[RBW] FS: Velo Orange Cigna Stem

[Tim Bantham]

Up for sale is a Velo Orange Cigna Stem. 

Color: Noir
Size: 1 1/8" Threadless 
Clamp Size 31.8 MM
Vertical Rise: 145 MM

$40 Pay Pal'd and shipped to the lower 48. 

Follow link to photos 




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[RBW] PSA: Surly 8-pack recall

[Joe Bernard]

Not actually a recall yet, this is the original notice from a month ago. I 
really wish they would recall it and offer a replacement or refund, a Friend Of 
The Riv Bunch still has one on her Clementine and it makes me nervous. 

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] PSA: Surly 8-pack recall

[Ash]

https://surlybikes.com/blog/important_safety_notice_surly_8_pack_and_24_pack_racks

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[RBW] FS: Frances Farfarer Trailer - $450 shipped (obo)

[Bob K.]

Hi Folks,

I decided to wait a while to re-post this great trailer. Need to get the 
cash out of this so I can keep buying guitar pedals!

As stated below in the original posting, I paid $652 shipped from Frances. 
It's barely used. Save yourself $200 and snag this for $450 shipped (OBO). 
See below for more info--don't hesitate to make an offer. 

Note: I'll be on a backpacking trip from Monday-Friday, so I won't get back 
to you immediately, but I will respond ASAP. Shipping could happen early 
the following week.

Thanks!

Bob K. in Baltimore

- - - - -

Original Posting: 

Riv Content: The trailer is hitched to my beautiful '09 canti Hillborne in 
the photos 
.
 
Up for sale is my lightly used Frances Farfarer trailer. I've owned it for 
about two years, and it has spent most of that time de-coupled/disassembled 
because I haven't had as much time to use it as planned. This is an 
incredibly capable and nimble trailer, and it weighs in at just under 10 
pounds. When loaded properly with the heaviest items toward the bottom, it 
hardly feels like you're pulling anything at all. I have used it for 
errands in the general vicinity of my house (groceries, firewood, etc.), 
hauling my daughter from time to time, and on one ~150 mile tour of the C 
Towpath here in MD. Works well with both my Sam (700x48) and Troll (26x3). 

I'm selling it for a couple of reasons: 1) I bought it primarily as a 
kid-hauler, and while it works well for that purpose, my daughter and I 
both prefer the forward-facing Weehoo so we can talk a bit more easily. 
Joshua Muir (maker of the trailer) used it for his daughter for years in 
Santa Cruz, and he loved it for that purpose. And 2) As mentioned above, I 
don't use it often enough.

Comes with a safety flag (not pictured), metal fender, Schwalbe Big Apple 
tire, one hitch, and bushing for 27.2 seatpost. If you need a different 
bushing size, Joshua at Frances has what you need. It has a few 
scratches/scuffs, but no dings, and the cargo "bag" (which is super heavy 
duty Cordura) has a couple of small stains. One of the fender stays is 
slightly bent. Just wanted to point that out because I know how finicky 
BOBs and RBWs can be about their fenders. *See pictures here* 
.

If you're interested, you probably know all about this thing, but you can 
also find more info on the trailer at Frances's website 
 and on Youtube 
.

Price includes shipping anywhere in the continental US, but local pickup 
(or delivery within Baltimore/DC area) is strongly preferred! I paid $652 
shipped from Frances and have only ridden it ~250 miles. And just FYI, I'll 
be at a conference DC for a week as of tomorrow, so I won't be able to ship 
it until next weekend or early the following week.

Please respond privately with any questions/interest. Thanks!

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Frances Farfarer Trailer - $450 Shipped OBO

[Bob K.]

Hi Folks,

I decided to wait a while to re-post this great trailer. Need to get some 
cash out of this and move it on to a loving home so I can keep buying 
guitar pedals!

As stated below in the original posting, I paid $652 shipped from Frances. 
It's barely used. Save yourself $200 and snag this for $450 shipped (OBO). 
See below for more info--don't hesitate to make an offer. 

Note: I'll be on a backpacking trip from Monday-Friday, so I won't get back 
to you immediately, but I will respond ASAP. Shipping could happen early 
the following week.

Thanks!

Bob K. in Baltimore

- - - - -

Original Posting: 

Riv Content: The trailer is hitched to my beautiful '09 canti Hillborne in 
the photos 
.
 
Up for sale is my lightly used Frances Farfarer trailer. I've owned it for 
about two years, and it has spent most of that time de-coupled/disassembled 
because I haven't had as much time to use it as planned. This is an 
incredibly capable and nimble trailer, and it weighs in at just under 10 
pounds. When loaded properly with the heaviest items toward the bottom, it 
hardly feels like you're pulling anything at all. I have used it for 
errands in the general vicinity of my house (groceries, firewood, etc.), 
hauling my daughter from time to time, and on one ~150 mile tour of the C 
Towpath here in MD. Works well with both my Sam (700x48) and Troll (26x3). 

I'm selling it for a couple of reasons: 1) I bought it primarily as a 
kid-hauler, and while it works well for that purpose, my daughter and I 
both prefer the forward-facing Weehoo so we can talk a bit more easily. 
Joshua Muir (maker of the trailer) used it for his daughter for years in 
Santa Cruz, and he loved it for that purpose. And 2) As mentioned above, I 
don't use it often enough.

Comes with a safety flag (not pictured), metal fender, Schwalbe Big Apple 
tire, one hitch, and bushing for 27.2 seatpost. If you need a different 
bushing size, Joshua at Frances has what you need. It has a few 
scratches/scuffs, but no dings, and the cargo "bag" (which is super heavy 
duty Cordura) has a couple of small stains. One of the fender stays is 
slightly bent. Just wanted to point that out because I know how finicky 
BOBs and RBWs can be about their fenders. *See pictures here* 
.

If you're interested, you probably know all about this thing, but you can 
also find more info on the trailer at Frances's website 
 and on Youtube 
.

Price includes shipping anywhere in the continental US, but local pickup 
(or delivery within Baltimore/DC area) is strongly preferred! I paid $652 
shipped from Frances and have only ridden it ~250 miles. And just FYI, I'll 
be at a conference DC for a week as of tomorrow, so I won't be able to ship 
it until next weekend or early the following week.

Please respond privately with any questions/interest. Thanks!

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: Crankset & STI Compatibility

[Garth]

The Sugino info sez it's for 10/11 speed.  
https://www.suginoltd.co.jp/us/products/road/ox.html


On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 12:20:32 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
> Anyone know if Sugino XO601 Compact Plus double cranksets are compatible 
> with STI shifters?  Thinking 42-28 for a Roadini.  If STI is compatable w/ 
> this type of crank, what is the biggest cog that I can put on the rear if 
> using a FD such as CX70.  Probably thinking 9 speed, will consider 10.  Any 
> advice appreciated.
>

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[RBW] WTB: (small) Rivendell English Jacket

[Sean Kline]

A long shot, but is there a small Rivendell English Jacket out there 
looking for a new home?

[image: Rivendell English Jacket.jpeg]

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[RBW] Crankset & STI Compatibility

[RDS]

Anyone know if Sugino XO601 Compact Plus double cranksets are compatible 
with STI shifters?  Thinking 42-28 for a Roadini.  If STI is compatable w/ 
this type of crank, what is the biggest cog that I can put on the rear if 
using a FD such as CX70.  Probably thinking 9 speed, will consider 10.  Any 
advice appreciated.

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[RBW] Tulsa Bikers - Experiences

[ascpgh]

I lived and ran a shop over in Arkansas. The roadies gravitated to events the 
more developed Tulsa community sponsored. I recall events at Hallet motor 
speedway even.

We tended to ride our twisty mountain roads and hundreds of miles of double 
track forest service dirt and gravel. I’ve been out of the area for 20 years 
but back then Tulsa was a fluid part of our region, including the airport 
before XNA was built.

I know the Walton investment in cycling infrastructure, in NWAR has catalyzed 
other regional focus on cycling. Even though a college town, Fayetteville 
wasn’t a cycling mecca back then and given its change and development can’t be 
too far removed from Tulsa’s. There are readers from NWA here who may have some 
insight too.

Any Cheatham 
Pittsburgh 

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[RBW] Re: Riv Protovelo 57.5cm, $1100

[alan lavine]

Bike is sold, thanks everyone.
Alan

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 9:22:44 AM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Thank you, Bill.   Wasn't sure how to do this.
>
> On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 8:48:56 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Bumping this for Alan Lavine, since he posted a new thread announcing a 
>> new price for a bike with no description or pictures.  His new price 
>> appears to be $999
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 4:27:33 PM UTC-7, alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I bought this from the original owner, who bought it from Kevin at Riv 
>>> in 2012.  We don't have a lot of specific info on this frame.  One Riv 
>>> employee suggested it could have been geometry testing for the San Marcos 
>>> with thinner tubing.  Geometry looks very close to a 57 Roadini.  The owner 
>>> believed, but wasn't 100% sure, that the fork was a Roadeo fork from Toyo, 
>>> based on the slender curve.  The head tube has Hilborne lugs but AHHilson 
>>> on the BBshell.  Strangely, front brake is medium reach and rear is long 
>>> reach. It's intended to be a go-fast bike, lighter and more nimble than 
>>> other Riv's.  
>>> If anyone has more info, please chime in.
>>>
>>> The numbers:
>>> -ST 57.5 c-t
>>> -TT 57.5 actual, 58-59 effective
>>> -CS 45, WB 106
>>> -130 rear spacing
>>>
>>> The build:
>>> -Compass Maes Bars 44 cm hood-hood
>>> -Nitto technomic stem 7 cm
>>> -Grand Comp (dia comp) non-aero levers with q/r
>>> -front der Tiagra, rear der Claris
>>> -Shimano 8 spd indexed bar end levers, new 8 spd IRD cassette
>>> -VO crank 48/34 175 mm, new Shimano 110 BB
>>> -105 hubs 36 hole on Velocity A23 rims
>>> -FSA headset
>>> -Berhoud Mente saddle, 180 w, 278 long.  Has some scuffs, a bit softened 
>>> with mink oil but not yet broken in.
>>> -nearly new Compass Bon Jon Pass 700x35 EL, maybe 75 miles
>>> -seat height in pic =76 cm
>>>
>>> I'll be keeping the pedals and Acorn saddle bag.
>>> Offering as a local sale for now.  Please contact me for questions or if 
>>> I'm way off on the price.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan NYC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Hello in Granada, Spain

[Matt]

I was travelling recently from my home in Kingston, Ontario, Canada, to Madrid 
and then Nerja, Spain.  I’m sure others on this list can relate when I say I 
automatically check out bikes wherever I go.  During the trip, I had noticed a 
mtb brand or two I wasn’t familiar with, but nothing otherwise overly exciting. 
 

However, on the last day, October 9, while driving the rental car through a 
busy downhill road in downtown Granada, I noticed a very particular shape of 
handlebar coming up the hill in the distance three lanes over.  “Are those 
moustache bars?!”  Yes, yes they were.  Through the traffic, I was able to 
sneak another look when we passed one another and I got to see their very 
determined and deliberate rider riding atop a beautifully blue Atlantis.  

What a wonderful surprise!  I would have so much preferred trying to catch him 
on a bike of my own, and in my fantasies have a chat, and maybe ask him take me 
around a local route.  But instead, I continued driving the rental car to the 
airport.

If the rider reads this forum, or if someone on the forum knows him and can 
pass it along, please accept my best “Hello from Canada!” wave.

Best wishes and happy riding,

Matt 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell frame would you resurrect?

[Hugh Smitham]

Jim,

But I like the HB too. 

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