[RBW] WTB: cheap parts, upright cockpit, crank, tires

[Drw]

Putting together a bike for a newly relocated friend, who needs a bike, but 
can only manage about 200$ for something, AND is also aesthetically 
inclined (i know, you cant have both. i know.). I redirected away from big 
box, and we picked up a 1992 trek 730 multitrack with 50% serviceable 
parts. Right now, looking for...

-upright bars. something between jitensa to albatross shaped bars would be 
fine
-silver stem that'll work with above
-700x40 maybe 42 tires
-a mostly silver double (or triple)crankset

Would maybe be interested in
-Thumb shifters for 7 speed (to go with og drivetrain)
OR
-9 speed cassette. ( i almost have all the parts to fudge a 9 speed 
drivetrain)

Budget is very low, so i'm mostly dipping into my own $$ for this, and 
requesting your forgotten parts bin items and or generosity. 

shipping would be to 90066. Thanks all,
Drew
d rew bec kmey er @ gmai l . com

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[RBW] Re: KOMA bike light or similar?

[Collin A]

Crust has them, but in purple? Seems weird...

https://www.crustbikes.com/products/blue-lug-select-koma-lights/ 

Collin in "Unhealthy" Sacramento 

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 2:19:27 PM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Aluma-lites are quite similar, and come in a variety of body colors. 
>
> Rear:   https://tinyurl.com/y3kz92g4
>
> Set of front and back: https://tinyurl.com/y65v4cfv
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 11:55:05 AM UTC-5, Ray wrote:
>>
>> Apologies if this is off-topic, but I thought since Riv and Blue Lug are 
>> so closely tied, it might be appropriate.
>>
>> Blue Lug recently advertised these KOMA lights that they are selling on 
>> the global site: 
>> https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-koma-light-rear-black.html
>>
>> I really appreciate the simple design and the concept. I've found that 
>> most bike tail lights attach to the seatpost. This doesn't work for me most 
>> of the time because I like to use a saddle bag that would cover the light. 
>> I know they also make clip-on lights that can attach to the saddle bag, but 
>> I also don't love this solution because I've found that the angle of the 
>> light can change pretty easily without a more fixed point and doesn't 
>> always direct the light the way you might want. 
>>
>> Anyway, the BL light looks great to me but the shipping cost is just too 
>> much to stomach. If anyone knows of other vendors that sell these I'd love 
>> to find them, but I suspect these are made specifically for BL as my 
>> searching hasn't returned them anywhere else. I was wondering if any of you 
>> knew of something similar or if you've found another solution?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ray
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your lockable commuter thread

[Collin A]

Looks like your Sam if I'm being honest

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 6:10:06 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Gah, I am so bad at keeping a bike low key and cheap. Bought the bike for 
> $250, put $1000 in parts on it immediately, and have a full dynamo setup on 
> order too. But then I'm done right?!  
>
> [image: 20191004054111.JPG]
>
> [image: 20191004054236.JPG]
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[RBW] Re: Comparing drop bars to uprights: Path Less Pedaled

[dougP]

"My Noodle-to-Albatross conversion ratio is a *6cm longer stem* on the 
latter (ie 5cm stem for the Noodles and a 11cm stem for the Albatross on my 
Sam) "

That's interesting.  I did not change the stem when I first put upright 
bars on my Atlantis.  The hand position took care of the numbness issue.  
The last year or so I've been thinking I needed to be more upright (older 
body, not so flexible anymore).  I have a dirt drop on there now, with the 
bars an inch or so above where they were with the stock stem at max height 
(even with the seat).  Eyeballing it, it looks like the dirt drop also 
pulls the bars at least an inch closer.  A longer stem seems 
counter-intuitive.  The standard was 100 mm.  

I'm beginning to understand how people accumulate a collection of stems & 
bars.  Maybe the goal should be to get your favorite hand position roughly 
the same distance from the steerer, either forward or behind, at the right 
height?  Points to ponder.

dougP

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 6:20:09 PM UTC-7, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I'm coming around to the idea that drops can be set up to wildly more 
> upright than what common knowledge would have you believe so that you can 
> still get the same assortment of positions but with a more Bosco-like 
> neutral position. To do this you can run something like this stem [
> https://www.crustbikes.com/products/nitto-26-0-bj-stem/] on a modern Riv, 
> and I'd run 48cm Noodles for the nice width and their well proven 
> ergonomics. 
>
> That said, I vastly prefer upright bar brake levers for better power and 
> control - drop bar levers are just at a terrible angle, even modern ergo 
> levers. I've never tried Boscos - my instincts were that they'd be too 
> "land yacht" feeling for me but I'm starting to wonder if they don't make 
> more sense than I give them credit. Albatross are hard to beat though. 
>
> My Noodle-to-Albatross conversion ratio is a 6cm longer stem on the latter 
> (ie 5cm stem for the Noodles and a 11cm stem for the Albatross on my Sam) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any particular grease cleaner you would recommend!

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Ray.  I ordered some the other day but always good to get another
endorsement.

Joel
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 6:10 PM Ray Varella  wrote:

>
> I also use simple green.
> I use diesel fuel for my parts cleaning. I find it works very well as a
> solvent and even if you leave it uncovered, the evaporation rate is
> extremely slow.
>
> Back to simple green, you can adjust the ratio of cleaner to water if you
> buy the concentrate.
>
> Here’s my endorsement: I drive rigs and occasionally someone will drag the
> air lines and power cord across the 5th wheel skid plate.
> These skid plates are covered with the thickest, dirtiest most tenacious
> grease you’ve ever gotten on yourself.
> A couple applications of simple green and a shop rag will wipe away a
> thick coating of this greasy mess.
> No part on any bicycle will ever accumulate this sort of grease.
> It’s also safe to use on many other household chores.
>
> Ray
> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 10:38:24 AM UTC-7, Joel S wrote:
>>
>> I used the finish line product but it goes very fast, then greased with
>> finis line.  Have hear talk of using a citrus based product.  Will use with
>> the park chain cleaning tank.  Any recommendations?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Joel
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Kieran J]

That's something else! I have that exact frame, but she ain't anywhere near 
NOS. 
Cool find.

KJ


On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 1:42:12 PM UTC-7, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> About a year and a quarter ago I sold my blue and white 68 cm Rambouillet 
> frame, having bought Will's 67 cm AHH, which I enjoy very much. 
>
> Then this week this brand new in the box, bought by the seller from 
> Rivendell in 2005 but never built 68 cm Orange Rambouillet frame became 
> available within a reasonable drive from me, and I could not resist, so a 
> Ram is back among my assembly of Rivendells. 
>
> My bicycle cup runneth over.   :) 
>
> Photo is of frame and fork in front of the seller's house. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Comparing drop bars to uprights: Path Less Pedaled

[velomann]

"I'm going to speculate that he will be back to Boscos with a right length 
stem :)"
My guess too. Russ and I have been in communication about the Sam and the 
bars and stem - his review is partly what tipped me to commit to one of the 
upcoming Sams. We're roughly the same height, though I have a slightly 
longer inseam and I'm getting a 51. I'll be installing one of the new 
faceplate stems in 120 length with Boscos. I'm guessing Russ will be 
getting one of those stems in the same length. I won't be surprised to see 
his Boscos remounted to that stem in the not too distant future ;-)

Mike M

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 4:31:27 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> Thanks guys for the input.  I've looked at bars on Rivendell's site & they 
> do have a good selection.  Just not sure what I want / need.  Bars are fun 
> to experiment with what a PITA to keep messing with stems, cables, and fine 
> tuning.  Keep those suggestions coming.
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:26:42 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>>
>> Another rather useful video by PLP!  I'm going to speculate that he will 
>> be back to Boscos with a right length stem :)
>>
>> The perceived stability is likely 50% due to the riding position he's 
>> used to.  People who are used to upright bars probably won't have a problem 
>> riding on any kind of trails (example: various Deacon Patrick's pictures I 
>> have seen on this forum, Grant's buddy making a very sharp turn with a 
>> Bosco-like bar https://vimeo.com/463214265 ).   
>>
>> I have a drop bar road bike which I still ride occasionally.  To me Bosco 
>> feels like a more ergonomic version of drop bars.  Drop bars offer 
>> aggressive (drops) and slightly relaxed (hoods, corners, flat area) 
>> positions, while Bosco offers relaxed (front of the swept back section) and 
>> more relaxed positions.  I frequently switch between these two positions. 
>>  Overall hands, shoulders and neck feel more relaxed after a couple hours 
>> of ride as compared to the drop bar.  Next time I do a full day ride, I 
>> might even install hoods if I can find something that fits Boscos.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: bosco-1.jpg][image: bosco-2.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, 2 October 2020 at 12:04:13 UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> PLP has had a test bike from Rivendell for a while now.  It was 
>>> originally delivered with upright bars.  They recently changed to drops for 
>>> a head to head test of bars.  Interestingly he liked the drops better, 
>>> although he's had no complaints about the uprights.  Here's the link:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-yyNxJcF5M
>>>
>>> My question is whether anyone has determined a preferred location for 
>>> hands in relation to the pivot point of the handlebars?  Hands in front, as 
>>> with drops?  Hands behind, as with uprights?  
>>>
>>> What drives the question is my experience with my Atlantis.  I rode it 
>>> for many years with drops, and was quite pleased with the handling.  
>>> However, over a period of years my hands developed numbness after a while 
>>> on a ride.  I rode primarily on the tops & brake hoods.  While on a trip, 
>>> using a rental bike with flat bars, I noticed a complete lack of hand 
>>> numbness.  Hopping back on the Atlantis when I got home, the same hand 
>>> numbness issue was there.  I've tried various upright bars, first with the 
>>> same 10cm stem I'd always used, then with a dirt drop.  The numbness is 
>>> long gone but the bike does seem more sensitive to steering input with the 
>>> uprights vs the drops.  
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas on this?
>>>
>>> Doug peterson
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Jason Fuller]

What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can barely 
wait a weekend when I buy one. 

Great buy. 

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[RBW] Re: Comparing drop bars to uprights: Path Less Pedaled

[Jason Fuller]

I'm coming around to the idea that drops can be set up to wildly more 
upright than what common knowledge would have you believe so that you can 
still get the same assortment of positions but with a more Bosco-like 
neutral position. To do this you can run something like this stem 
[https://www.crustbikes.com/products/nitto-26-0-bj-stem/] on a modern Riv, 
and I'd run 48cm Noodles for the nice width and their well proven 
ergonomics. 

That said, I vastly prefer upright bar brake levers for better power and 
control - drop bar levers are just at a terrible angle, even modern ergo 
levers. I've never tried Boscos - my instincts were that they'd be too 
"land yacht" feeling for me but I'm starting to wonder if they don't make 
more sense than I give them credit. Albatross are hard to beat though. 

My Noodle-to-Albatross conversion ratio is a 6cm longer stem on the latter 
(ie 5cm stem for the Noodles and a 11cm stem for the Albatross on my Sam) 

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[RBW] Re: Nitto small parts

[dougP]

I've lost a few of those.  They seem to be quite independent.  I've had to 
buy the whole assembly from Rivendell.  Right now they're out of stock.  

dougP

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 9:53:05 AM UTC-7, Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:
>
> I've looked everywhere in the parts shed and I can't find the strut 
> securing/concave half moon piece for my Nitto r10.  Anyone have one??  It's 
> just the larger diameter piece shown 
> below that I am missing.
> [image: Nitto Part.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Comparing drop bars to uprights: Path Less Pedaled

[dougP]

Thanks guys for the input.  I've looked at bars on Rivendell's site & they 
do have a good selection.  Just not sure what I want / need.  Bars are fun 
to experiment with what a PITA to keep messing with stems, cables, and fine 
tuning.  Keep those suggestions coming.

dougP

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:26:42 PM UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>
> Another rather useful video by PLP!  I'm going to speculate that he will 
> be back to Boscos with a right length stem :)
>
> The perceived stability is likely 50% due to the riding position he's used 
> to.  People who are used to upright bars probably won't have a problem 
> riding on any kind of trails (example: various Deacon Patrick's pictures I 
> have seen on this forum, Grant's buddy making a very sharp turn with a 
> Bosco-like bar https://vimeo.com/463214265 ).   
>
> I have a drop bar road bike which I still ride occasionally.  To me Bosco 
> feels like a more ergonomic version of drop bars.  Drop bars offer 
> aggressive (drops) and slightly relaxed (hoods, corners, flat area) 
> positions, while Bosco offers relaxed (front of the swept back section) and 
> more relaxed positions.  I frequently switch between these two positions. 
>  Overall hands, shoulders and neck feel more relaxed after a couple hours 
> of ride as compared to the drop bar.  Next time I do a full day ride, I 
> might even install hoods if I can find something that fits Boscos.
>
>
>
> [image: bosco-1.jpg][image: bosco-2.jpg]
>
> On Friday, 2 October 2020 at 12:04:13 UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> PLP has had a test bike from Rivendell for a while now.  It was 
>> originally delivered with upright bars.  They recently changed to drops for 
>> a head to head test of bars.  Interestingly he liked the drops better, 
>> although he's had no complaints about the uprights.  Here's the link:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-yyNxJcF5M
>>
>> My question is whether anyone has determined a preferred location for 
>> hands in relation to the pivot point of the handlebars?  Hands in front, as 
>> with drops?  Hands behind, as with uprights?  
>>
>> What drives the question is my experience with my Atlantis.  I rode it 
>> for many years with drops, and was quite pleased with the handling.  
>> However, over a period of years my hands developed numbness after a while 
>> on a ride.  I rode primarily on the tops & brake hoods.  While on a trip, 
>> using a rental bike with flat bars, I noticed a complete lack of hand 
>> numbness.  Hopping back on the Atlantis when I got home, the same hand 
>> numbness issue was there.  I've tried various upright bars, first with the 
>> same 10cm stem I'd always used, then with a dirt drop.  The numbness is 
>> long gone but the bike does seem more sensitive to steering input with the 
>> uprights vs the drops.  
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas on this?
>>
>> Doug peterson
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Any particular grease cleaner you would recommend!

[Ray Varella]

I also use simple green. 
I use diesel fuel for my parts cleaning. I find it works very well as a 
solvent and even if you leave it uncovered, the evaporation rate is 
extremely slow. 

Back to simple green, you can adjust the ratio of cleaner to water if you 
buy the concentrate. 

Here’s my endorsement: I drive rigs and occasionally someone will drag the 
air lines and power cord across the 5th wheel skid plate. 
These skid plates are covered with the thickest, dirtiest most tenacious 
grease you’ve ever gotten on yourself. 
A couple applications of simple green and a shop rag will wipe away a thick 
coating of this greasy mess. 
No part on any bicycle will ever accumulate this sort of grease. 
It’s also safe to use on many other household chores. 

Ray
On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 10:38:24 AM UTC-7, Joel S wrote:
>
> I used the finish line product but it goes very fast, then greased with 
> finis line.  Have hear talk of using a citrus based product.  Will use with 
> the park chain cleaning tank.  Any recommendations?
>
> Thank you
>
> Joel 
>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Good things come to those who wait

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: KOMA bike light or similar?

[Julian Westerhout]

The Aluma-lites are quite similar, and come in a variety of body colors. 

Rear:   https://tinyurl.com/y3kz92g4

Set of front and back: https://tinyurl.com/y65v4cfv


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 11:55:05 AM UTC-5, Ray wrote:
>
> Apologies if this is off-topic, but I thought since Riv and Blue Lug are 
> so closely tied, it might be appropriate.
>
> Blue Lug recently advertised these KOMA lights that they are selling on 
> the global site: 
> https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-koma-light-rear-black.html
>
> I really appreciate the simple design and the concept. I've found that 
> most bike tail lights attach to the seatpost. This doesn't work for me most 
> of the time because I like to use a saddle bag that would cover the light. 
> I know they also make clip-on lights that can attach to the saddle bag, but 
> I also don't love this solution because I've found that the angle of the 
> light can change pretty easily without a more fixed point and doesn't 
> always direct the light the way you might want. 
>
> Anyway, the BL light looks great to me but the shipping cost is just too 
> much to stomach. If anyone knows of other vendors that sell these I'd love 
> to find them, but I suspect these are made specifically for BL as my 
> searching hasn't returned them anywhere else. I was wondering if any of you 
> knew of something similar or if you've found another solution?
>
> Thanks!
> Ray
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: September Blow Out

[Corwin]

Hi Luke -

Sorry. Shimano M324 pedals are gone.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 7:30:56 AM UTC-7 lukeheller wrote:

> I'll take the Shimano M324 pedals with powergrips if still available
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 12:36:45 PM UTC-4 Corwin wrote:
>
>> Hi Again -
>>
>> The pedals fell out. Here's what's left:
>>
>> 1) MKS Track Pedals. In great shape. Lots of miles left. $15 Shipped.
>>
>> 2) Shimano M324 Pedals. Includes the Power Grips attached. These are SPD 
>> pedals on one side, accommodate street shoes on the other. There is an SPD 
>> cleat stuck in one pedal. A great pair of pedals at a rock bottom price in 
>> exchange for your removing the cleat. $5 Shipped.
>>
>> 3) 18 tooth fixed gear cog $5 Shipped.
>>
>> 4) Ritchey 10 and 12cm Threadless Stems. In fantastic shape. Never 
>> mounted. Yours for $5 Shipped (each).
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 6:51:50 AM UTC-7 pbsm...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Corwin I sent payment on the Nitto stems not realizing they were 
>>> 26.0 clamp. I'd like to actually pass on these if it's not too late.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:35:14 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>>>
 PM sent on shifters.  


 On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 3:31:27 AM UTC-4, Corwin wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> In spite of the virus, the fires, etc., 2020 has been really good for 
> me. I seem to accumulate lots of parts. I have no room for them. So I 
> want 
> to send them to you! All prices below include shipping.
>
> 1) Silver friction levers mated to Shimano bar end pods. These are in 
> great shape and have lots of miles left in them. These are the original 
> Silver shifters - not the second generation recently released. $10 
> shipped.
>
> 2) Nitto Campee Rack. Not sure which rack this is - but it came off 
> the front of my son's SimpleOne. $10 shipped.
>
> 3) MKS Track Pedals. Great, inexpensive, durable pedals. Also in great 
> shape. $15 shipped.
>
> 4) Vittoria 700c x 25/32mm tubes. $5 shipped for both.
>
> 5) Shimano Flat Bar Brake Levers. In great shape. $10 shipped.
>
> 6) Park Spanners. 13, 14 and 15mm. One each. $5 shipped for all three.
>
> 7) Lumotec IQ Headlight. Plenty of wire here. Was mounted to the Nitto 
> rack above. Most of the wire ran to the tail light.
>
> 8) Velocity Quick Release Skewer. Came on my Hubbuhubbuh. I think the 
> OLD is 140mm.
>
> 9) Tail Light. This went with the Lumotec IQ above. $2 shipped.
>
> 10) Third Hand Tool. A piece of ancient history. I used to clamp my 
> brakes together with this thing to get cable slack, etc. $2 shipped.
>
> 11) Couple of sidepull brakes. A Shimano 600 "standard" reach, and a 
> short reach brake. Not sure where these came from. Throwing in the lever 
> in 
> the picture as well $5 shipped for both.
>
> 12) Skewers from Schmidt Dynohubs. These take and allen wrench. $2 
> shipped for both.
>
> 13) Riese and Müller Handlebar Mount for Dynamo Light. In great shape. 
> Used sparingly. $2 shipped.
>
> 14) Ritchey 10 and 12cm Threadless Stems. These have two-bolt 
> faceplates. Not sure about the rise. $10 shipped each.
>
> 15) Nitto UI-5GX Threadless Stems. These are some of the most elegant 
> stems anywhere. Four bolt faceplates. $15 shipped each.
>
> 16) 18 tooth cog for your fixed gear. Not much wear on this one. Came 
> off my son's fixed gear before he rode it. $2 shipped.
>
> 17) Nitto R Bottle Cages. These are the light ones. Very sleek and 
> elegant. The solid ones - not the hollow ones. $20 shipped each.
>
> 18) Giant Threadless Stem. Not as pretty as the others - but it's a 
> long one: 13cm. Two bolt faceplate. $5 shipped.
>
> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yQCgqV1kruueocWP8
>
> If any of you are in the SF Bay Area and want to come to my house in 
> Richmond, California to pick up one or more items, I will happily give 
> them 
> to you gratis for saving me the time, money and hassle of shipping them.
>
> And if you want to send me money via Paypal - please use czech "at" 
> sonic.net.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>


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[RBW] Orange Sam in the House

[True Golden]

Oh, now that you point it out I see that Kai.

Thanks.

I didn't know Riv even offered threadless steerers.

Or perhaps he had a custom fork made.

It's a beaut either way.

Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Electric Sam

[Sky Coulter]

Ya, there was no chance of me going for it at 4000, but by the time he got to 
3000, i decided to make a low but extremely polite offer at 2300.  He countered 
a couple days later and i picked it up for 2500.  Which had me thinking that at 
the very worst, i might lose a grand in the end.  Having owned it a couple 
weeks, i think it is a terrific value.

I think it has really barely been ridden before i got ahold of it. The frame is 
in pretty great shape and the odometer only had 160km on it.  I don’t know if 
that was the sum total of kilometers he put on it after the conversion, but it 
wouldn’t surprise me.  It’s got just enough minor flaws to keep me happy 
correcting them, but no major issues at all.

Sky in new west

> On Oct 3, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> I watched with keen interest as the price was lowered on that CL ad, since 
> as you know it's very rare that a Rivendell pops up in the Vancouver area CL! 
> It's the one and only keyword alert I have set. It was too big for me anyway 
> but great to see it picked up by a Riv enthusiast.  
> 
> Also glad to hear your findings about the e-assist!  If I can't sell my Clem 
> Smith I might keep it for an electric conversion once I'm commuting again; my 
> work is moving and my commute will change from a flat-ish 20km each way to 
> 16km up and over a big hill each way.  While I like getting there under my 
> own power, the time savings alone would be huge! 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Electric Sam

[Jason Fuller]

I watched with keen interest as the price was lowered on that CL ad, since 
as you know it's very rare that a Rivendell pops up in the Vancouver area 
CL! It's the one and only keyword alert I have set. It was too big for me 
anyway but great to see it picked up by a Riv enthusiast.  

Also glad to hear your findings about the e-assist!  If I can't sell my 
Clem Smith I might keep it for an electric conversion once I'm commuting 
again; my work is moving and my commute will change from a flat-ish 20km 
each way to 16km up and over a big hill each way.  While I like getting 
there under my own power, the time savings alone would be huge! 





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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Dave, The sea wall to Long Branch does sound nice, having seen a lot 
of, maybe too much, ocean in my time...
If I can make the ride, I'll likely give an extra hour from Matawan to 
allow myself some meandering on the way.
-Kai

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-4 Dave S wrote:

> The ride south from sandy hook is cool but not as scenic.  There is a huge 
> ocean wall that would block your beach view for a lot of it but i guess its 
> sorta neat itself.  When you get to long branch, there are a lot of 
> restaurants (its a college town) and a microbrewery type place (whitehouse 
> chapel).  
>
> On the flipside, atlantic highlands has one of the top rated pizza places 
> in the country (una) and an awesome craft ice cream place (nicholas) and as 
> someone else mentioned Carton Brewing.  Im not really sure what the covid 
> situation is for any of these place but I know Nicholas is open (wife’s 
> fav).
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 10:30 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the Henry Hudson Trail from Matawan, when arriving at 10:11 on 
>> the train from NYC, how leisurely is the ride to the Atlantic Highlands 
>> when shooting for 11:30? From the photos it looks like I might be tempted 
>> to stop and admire the scenery a lot,  maybe enough that I'd opt for an 
>> earlier train.
>> And the ride to Long Branch form Sandy Hook? Is that also lovely? Better 
>> to return to Matawan on the picturesque HHT? Or option #3? #4? 
>> Thanks
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:41:03 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta and others:
>>>
>>> Tentative schedule for 10/17/20:
>>> *  People driving:  Be ready to ride in Atlantic Highlands (AH) at the 
>>> 1st Ave/Hennessey parking lot at 1130
>>> *  Wait for NYC folks coming on the NJ Transit train scheduled in 
>>> Matawan at 1011 and riding to AH on the HHT.  They should arrive by 1130.
>>> *  Ride to Highlands ferry dock to get NYC folks coming on the 1145 
>>> ferry.
>>> *  Everyone ride out to Sandy Hook.  
>>> *  Retrace routes back to Highlands and Atlantic Highlands.  Train folks 
>>> go to Long Branch to catch the train or bike ride back to AH and ride the 
>>> HHT back to Matawan for the same or later train
>>>
>>> Any Comments or questions?
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:

 Thanks to everyone’s  input for meeting places and route suggestions.  
 Posts the week of the ride.  Have we finalized the meet up spot? I don't 
 read this board every day.
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That is lovely, but it's not a quill stem adapter, it's an actual 
threadless steerer with some nice spacers. I use an adapter on a 7/8" 
steered Soma of old and it's great, but yeah, not quite as beautiful as 
that Gus steerer.
Great Sam!
-Kai

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Years ago I did not care for the aesthetics of this type of stem and stem 
> adapter but they have grown on me.
>
> I guess it's a different strokes for different folks sort of thing.
>
> I still prefer the clean look of a single piece quill stem but don't mind 
> the two piece set ups like I have on my Sam.
>
> When changing our the bars it sure makes it easy.
>
> Note these pics copied from the latest blahg / blog showing a very nice 
> stem / stem adapter set up.
>
> Now I find that look very appealing.
>
> Would love to have something similar.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
>
> [image: Image][image: Image] 
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[RBW] Nitto small parts

[Brendan Willard in SF]

I've looked everywhere in the parts shed and I can't find the strut 
securing/concave half moon piece for my Nitto r10.  Anyone have one??  It's 
just the larger diameter piece shown 
below that I am missing.
[image: Nitto Part.jpeg]

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[RBW] FS: MIT Homer Hilsen f/f/hs/bb + parts

[RichS]

 

Like new condition with no marks or scratches (Dropouts do have some 
missing paint). One year old, ridden 770 miles.

Price $1,000, UPS shipping included in price. Size: 51cm, 650b wheel size.

My PBH is 80cm. The 51 size is a perfect fit for me. Paint has a subtle 
metallic undertone visible in the sunlight.

Parts: Kalloy seat post, FSA headset (from Riv). 

Brakes: Tektro 559 long reach with Kool Stop pads. 

Bottom bracket: Two sizes of Shimano UN-55 included in the sale. Brand new 
110 and a 113 is currently installed.

Rear Derailleur: Shimano Altus 9 speed, 11-36, lightly used.

Front Derailleur: Shimano Sora double, 9 speed, new.

New Greenfield kickstand (black) never used.

Columbine chain hanger.

Need additional pictures or info? Please email at: rshannon6...@gmail.com

Payment: PayPal preferred.
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Electric Sam

[Robert Tilley]

  I record all of my rides with a Garmin watch and find my average heart rate on an e-bike runs about the same as on a "normal" bike.  So I put in the same effort but I get more speed out of the bike.My riding these days all errand-based riding so if I take the e-bike I will get less of a workout since I'll spend less time on the bike due to the increased speed.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA  Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: clampe...@gmail.comSent: October 2, 2020 7:11 PMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Re: My Electric Sam  I spend a lot of time on a non-bike forum where everything under the sun is discussed, and e-bikes come up fairly often.  The consensus of e-bike riders there is that they work just as hard while riding their e-bikes, they just end up going faster!  On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:19:43 PM UTC-5 Sky Coulter wrote:I recently bought an ebike that was listed on my local craigslist.  I have been on the fence about ebikes for a while worrying that by riding one I would lose some of the fitness benefits of commuting under my own power.  And, if I'm honest, a lingering feeling that riding an ebike is a form of 'cheating'. What got me off the fence was a sam hillborne in my size with a bionx kit.  I figured I could buy it and if I didn't like it, I could separate the rivendell form the ebike parts and not lose too much money on the experiment.In truth it's been a revelation.  I still get a pretty solid workout on the way into work - my heart rate is within 10 beats of what it is when I ride my atlantis.  But now, when I have a rough day or a day that goes too long (which seems to be happening w quite a bit of regularity lately) I have the peace of mind of knowing that I can just increase the assistance level on the bike and take it easy.  In fact, I'm such a convert that I've ordered a Riese and Muller load 60 for my wife to take our youngest to preschool and run errands.  I'm coming to think that ebikes and cargo ebikes in particular make a great deal of sense as alternative transportation devices.  Anyway, here is a picture of my electric sam from the ride in this morning.  At first I had planned on swapping out the moustache bars but now I find myself kind of liking them and of having three bikes setup w three different handlebars (atlantis=drops, sam+moustache, clementine=choco-moose).Sky in new west  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Dave]

The ride south from sandy hook is cool but not as scenic.  There is a huge
ocean wall that would block your beach view for a lot of it but i guess its
sorta neat itself.  When you get to long branch, there are a lot of
restaurants (its a college town) and a microbrewery type place (whitehouse
chapel).

On the flipside, atlantic highlands has one of the top rated pizza places
in the country (una) and an awesome craft ice cream place (nicholas) and as
someone else mentioned Carton Brewing.  Im not really sure what the covid
situation is for any of these place but I know Nicholas is open (wife’s
fav).

Dave

On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 10:30 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Regarding the Henry Hudson Trail from Matawan, when arriving at 10:11 on
> the train from NYC, how leisurely is the ride to the Atlantic Highlands
> when shooting for 11:30? From the photos it looks like I might be tempted
> to stop and admire the scenery a lot,  maybe enough that I'd opt for an
> earlier train.
> And the ride to Long Branch form Sandy Hook? Is that also lovely? Better
> to return to Matawan on the picturesque HHT? Or option #3? #4?
> Thanks
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:41:03 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Roberta and others:
>>
>> Tentative schedule for 10/17/20:
>> *  People driving:  Be ready to ride in Atlantic Highlands (AH) at the
>> 1st Ave/Hennessey parking lot at 1130
>> *  Wait for NYC folks coming on the NJ Transit train scheduled in Matawan
>> at 1011 and riding to AH on the HHT.  They should arrive by 1130.
>> *  Ride to Highlands ferry dock to get NYC folks coming on the 1145 ferry.
>> *  Everyone ride out to Sandy Hook.
>> *  Retrace routes back to Highlands and Atlantic Highlands.  Train folks
>> go to Long Branch to catch the train or bike ride back to AH and ride the
>> HHT back to Matawan for the same or later train
>>
>> Any Comments or questions?
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone’s  input for meeting places and route suggestions.
>>> Posts the week of the ride.  Have we finalized the meet up spot? I don't
>>> read this board every day.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Sam Hillborne F/F/HS

[Austin B.]

Sam is sold.

On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 3:29:03 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:

> Forgot to post the link to pictures: 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Regarding the Henry Hudson Trail from Matawan, when arriving at 10:11 on 
the train from NYC, how leisurely is the ride to the Atlantic Highlands 
when shooting for 11:30? From the photos it looks like I might be tempted 
to stop and admire the scenery a lot,  maybe enough that I'd opt for an 
earlier train.
And the ride to Long Branch form Sandy Hook? Is that also lovely? Better to 
return to Matawan on the picturesque HHT? Or option #3? #4? 
Thanks
-Kai

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:41:03 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Roberta and others:
>
> Tentative schedule for 10/17/20:
> *  People driving:  Be ready to ride in Atlantic Highlands (AH) at the 1st 
> Ave/Hennessey parking lot at 1130
> *  Wait for NYC folks coming on the NJ Transit train scheduled in Matawan 
> at 1011 and riding to AH on the HHT.  They should arrive by 1130.
> *  Ride to Highlands ferry dock to get NYC folks coming on the 1145 ferry.
> *  Everyone ride out to Sandy Hook.  
> *  Retrace routes back to Highlands and Atlantic Highlands.  Train folks 
> go to Long Branch to catch the train or bike ride back to AH and ride the 
> HHT back to Matawan for the same or later train
>
> Any Comments or questions?
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 9:35:45 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to everyone’s  input for meeting places and route suggestions. 
>>  Posts the week of the ride.  Have we finalized the meet up spot? I don't 
>> read this board every day.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Electric Sam

[Robert Blunt]

I have many bikes, two of which are ebikes. In truth, I ride them more
often than my conventional bicycles due largely to what I can accomplish in
an hour of riding in terms of exercise than I can on my conventional
bicycles. You get a very a solid work out without the concern for being too
gassed to make it home. My conventional bicycles, including a Sam, are for
weekends when I have more time for leisurely cruises on the canal path on
the Delaware. I first started on ebikes in 2018 when I was recovering from
muscle atrophy related to accute parathyroid disease. For me, with their
Bosch intuitive ebike systems, they were a way back from poor physical
health and are key to maintaining a healthy lifestyle pocked by little time
for longer slower bike rides. I encourage people to be open minded about
these technologies. They aren't replacements for the steel bicycles we
love, but valuable additions to our cycling enjoyment in new forms.

Rob Blunt
Pennington, NJ

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 10:11 PM Chris L  wrote:

> I spend a lot of time on a non-bike forum where everything under the sun
> is discussed, and e-bikes come up fairly often.  The consensus of e-bike
> riders there is that they work just as hard while riding their e-bikes,
> they just end up going faster!
>
> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:19:43 PM UTC-5 Sky Coulter wrote:
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>> I recently bought an ebike that was listed on my local craigslist.  I
>> have been on the fence about ebikes for a while worrying that by riding one
>> I would lose some of the fitness benefits of commuting under my own power.
>> And, if I'm honest, a lingering feeling that riding an ebike is a form of
>> 'cheating'. What got me off the fence was a sam hillborne in my size with a
>> bionx kit.  I figured I could buy it and if I didn't like it, I could
>> separate the rivendell form the ebike parts and not lose too much money on
>> the experiment.
>>
>> In truth it's been a revelation.  I still get a pretty solid workout on
>> the way into work - my heart rate is within 10 beats of what it is when I
>> ride my atlantis.  But now, when I have a rough day or a day that goes too
>> long (which seems to be happening w quite a bit of regularity lately) I
>> have the peace of mind of knowing that I can just increase the assistance
>> level on the bike and take it easy.
>>
>> In fact, I'm such a convert that I've ordered a Riese and Muller load 60
>> for my wife to take our youngest to preschool and run errands.  I'm coming
>> to think that ebikes and cargo ebikes in particular make a great deal of
>> sense as alternative transportation devices.
>>
>> Anyway, here is a picture of my electric sam from the ride in this
>> morning.  At first I had planned on swapping out the moustache bars but now
>> I find myself kind of liking them and of having three bikes setup w three
>> different handlebars (atlantis=drops, sam+moustache,
>> clementine=choco-moose).
>>
>> Sky in new west
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