Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Fancy's great!, and best once it gets grimed. Diamond in the rough and 
stuff. 
And from what little I've learned of aluminum fenders from reading around 
here, a most important take away is that the fender needs to be "relaxed", 
meaning it wants to be precisely where it is, holding position, not trying 
to pull itself elsewhere however slightly. An art? maybe. Certainly a job 
suited to patient folks. 
Looking forward to seeing all these platypi
-Kai


On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:45:22 PM UTC-4 Ann L wrote:

> Leah:
>
> Go fancy.  In fact for a frame that pretty, there is no such thing as too 
> fancy.  
>
> Also, when I initially had Honjos on my Soma, I had 700c seven though my 
> wheels were 650bs.  The aluminum was pliable enough to bend to fit the 
> wheels and didn't look off.  That may be an option for you to explore.  I 
> will see if I can find some pictures.   
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:51:52 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Jason, I think the Platypus is supposed to be able to take 50 mm tires. 
>> 48 with fenders. Don’t ask me how I know that, I cannot remember, but 
>> someone from Riv wrote it SOMEWHERE. Lol on the “wavy” fender. Too true, 
>> too true.
>>
>> This bike is getting pretty fancy. I cannot decide if I should just go 
>> with it or toss plastic SKS fenders in there so the thing is a bit more 
>> humble.
>>
>> Riv can’t do the fenders without the wheels, and Analog will have the 
>> wheels but no frame. Analog is planning for a fender-mount for my tail 
>> light, so someone has to do them! It’s a fine kettle of fish, as they say 
>> where I’m from...
>>
>> Roberta and Ann and Joyce - yes, #RivSisters forever. Platypuses on 
>> parade. And so on and so forth!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I am generally not a fan of wood fenders either but I can't argue that 
>> those would look good on the Ras-Platypus.  I'm trying to figure out what 
>> fork crown that is on the Platypus, it's very similar looking to the Clem / 
>> Hunq one but not the same (my Clem's got a half moon shape where that has 
>> three dots).  Knowing that inside dimension would be helpful before 
>> suggesting over-60mm fenders, but VO makes a 63mm fluted model for 700c 
>> that would look good imo. 
>>
>> Re-radiusing is quite doable but also nice to avoid if possible, since 
>> it's really not that hard to mess it up and end up with the wrong kind of 
>> wavy fender. 
>>
>>   
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[RBW] Re: FS: Noodle Bars and Tallux Stem

[Michael Cyr]

SOLD! 

Thanks for all your interest here, folx. Until the next FS, happy riding!

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 6:52:03 PM UTC-4 Je Mar wrote:

> I'll take this deal!  PM coming...
> Thx
> Jeff
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:45:45 PM UTC-4 mpc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Oh, and I'll certainly clean off bar tape residue before shipping. 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:05:46 PM UTC-4 Michael Cyr wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy all,
>>>
>>> I have a 46cm Noodle Bar and 12cm reach Tallux Stem. 26mm clamp size. 
>>>
>>> Both pulled off a new to me, barely-used, Rambouillet purchased this 
>>> summer. Used, but look great and totally functional. $45 shipped, $30 local 
>>> Vermont pickup.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Julian Westerhout]

I spent a decade in Durango, Co, but the midwest where I now live is bereft 
of mountains -- we have a few river bluffs, but it is not the same   :) 
We do have grand sunsets, though...

That combo on your Ram looks good. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 6:29:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Cyr wrote:
>
> Yes, sir. Analog Stem and Salsa Cowchipper Bars. Most of the backgrounds 
> in Vermont (and stems!) are beautiful! 
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 7:00:46 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Michael, it looks great, and nice background! 
>>
>> Is that an Analog stem? 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 1:44:31 PM UTC-5, Michael Cyr wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice find! 
>>>
>>> I too found a Rambouillet this summer which had sat unused for 3+ years, 
>>> and seemed barely used beyond that. The seller said he was happy to "see it 
>>> moving again". New bars, new stem, new tries and not much else has had it 
>>> cranking it out the miles this fall. My first Rivendell and a terrific ride.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4180.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4 stevef wrote:
>>>
 A NOS creamsicle Rambly?  Holy smokes, what a find.

 On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> That's a mystery to me as well. 
>
> I am sorting through the parts stash right now to see what I'll need 
> to buy. It will be built soon-ish, likely by the new year at the latest.  
>
> Of course, the original owner might have had similar intentions 15 
> years ago ...   I wanted to ask what happened, but somehow it did not 
> seem 
> appropriate, especially as he waffled a bit on whether or not he really 
> wanted to sell it. :0
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:21:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>> What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can 
>> barely wait a weekend when I buy one. 
>>
>> Great buy. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Michael Cyr]

Yes, sir. Analog Stem and Salsa Cowchipper Bars. Most of the backgrounds in 
Vermont (and stems!) are beautiful! 


On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 7:00:46 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Michael, it looks great, and nice background! 
>
> Is that an Analog stem? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 1:44:31 PM UTC-5, Michael Cyr wrote:
>>
>> Nice find! 
>>
>> I too found a Rambouillet this summer which had sat unused for 3+ years, 
>> and seemed barely used beyond that. The seller said he was happy to "see it 
>> moving again". New bars, new stem, new tries and not much else has had it 
>> cranking it out the miles this fall. My first Rivendell and a terrific ride.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_4180.jpeg]
>>
>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4 stevef wrote:
>>
>>> A NOS creamsicle Rambly?  Holy smokes, what a find.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's a mystery to me as well. 

 I am sorting through the parts stash right now to see what I'll need to 
 buy. It will be built soon-ish, likely by the new year at the latest.  

 Of course, the original owner might have had similar intentions 15 
 years ago ...   I wanted to ask what happened, but somehow it did not seem 
 appropriate, especially as he waffled a bit on whether or not he really 
 wanted to sell it. :0

 Julian Westerhout
 Bloomington, IL 





 On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:21:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can 
> barely wait a weekend when I buy one. 
>
> Great buy. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Julian Westerhout]

Michael, it looks great, and nice background! 

Is that an Analog stem? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 1:44:31 PM UTC-5, Michael Cyr wrote:
>
> Nice find! 
>
> I too found a Rambouillet this summer which had sat unused for 3+ years, 
> and seemed barely used beyond that. The seller said he was happy to "see it 
> moving again". New bars, new stem, new tries and not much else has had it 
> cranking it out the miles this fall. My first Rivendell and a terrific ride.
>
>
>
> [image: IMG_4180.jpeg]
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4 stevef wrote:
>
>> A NOS creamsicle Rambly?  Holy smokes, what a find.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> That's a mystery to me as well. 
>>>
>>> I am sorting through the parts stash right now to see what I'll need to 
>>> buy. It will be built soon-ish, likely by the new year at the latest.  
>>>
>>> Of course, the original owner might have had similar intentions 15 years 
>>> ago ...   I wanted to ask what happened, but somehow it did not seem 
>>> appropriate, especially as he waffled a bit on whether or not he really 
>>> wanted to sell it. :0
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:21:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:

 What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can 
 barely wait a weekend when I buy one. 

 Great buy. 



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[RBW] WTB: 700x30-ish Tires

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Anybody have a pair of lightly used 700x30 or 700x32 tires available? Something 
like a Rene Herse “Stampede Pass”?

Let me know whatcha got and what you think they’re worth.

Thanks!

--Eric Norris
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[RBW] Re: FS: Noodle Bars and Tallux Stem

['Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'll take this deal!  PM coming...
Thx
Jeff

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:45:45 PM UTC-4 mpc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh, and I'll certainly clean off bar tape residue before shipping. 
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:05:46 PM UTC-4 Michael Cyr wrote:
>
>> Howdy all,
>>
>> I have a 46cm Noodle Bar and 12cm reach Tallux Stem. 26mm clamp size. 
>>
>> Both pulled off a new to me, barely-used, Rambouillet purchased this 
>> summer. Used, but look great and totally functional. $45 shipped, $30 local 
>> Vermont pickup.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] If You Need To Call Rivendell In The Next Few Days, Do This

[Patrick Moore]

As a mestizo who spent 6 years of his boyhood in Kenya, I have no
particular interest in BLM, but I have to advise you:* Illegitimi non
carborundum.*

Ideologies of any sort are stupid. Reform yourself, that's the hard thing.

Interesting, I was just on the phone with my sister, and we were discussing
incidents of racial discrimination in our lives. Some, but thank God few
and far between, and relatively benign.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:17 PM John A. Bennett  wrote:

> We had to stop answering the phone for a few days.
> Suffice it to say it has something to do with our BRP plan.
>
> Email whomever you wish to speak with at Rivendell or
> email i...@rivbike.com and give us your number.
> We will call you back (insert caveats regarding COVID staffing levels,
> etc.)
>
> Of course, if you're just calling to give us "an earful," that's OK.
> No need to call. We've "heard it all before."
>
> Thanks for your patience!
>
> John, for everyone at RBW
>
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[RBW] If You Need To Call Rivendell In The Next Few Days, Do This

[John A. Bennett]

We had to stop answering the phone for a few days. 
Suffice it to say it has something to do with our BRP plan.

Email whomever you wish to speak with at Rivendell or 
email i...@rivbike.com and give us your number. 
We will call you back (insert caveats regarding COVID staffing levels, etc.)

Of course, if you're just calling to give us "an earful," that's OK.
No need to call. We've "heard it all before."

Thanks for your patience!

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Leah:

Go fancy.  In fact for a frame that pretty, there is no such thing as too 
fancy.  

Also, when I initially had Honjos on my Soma, I had 700c seven though my 
wheels were 650bs.  The aluminum was pliable enough to bend to fit the 
wheels and didn't look off.  That may be an option for you to explore.  I 
will see if I can find some pictures.   

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:51:52 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Jason, I think the Platypus is supposed to be able to take 50 mm tires. 48 
> with fenders. Don’t ask me how I know that, I cannot remember, but someone 
> from Riv wrote it SOMEWHERE. Lol on the “wavy” fender. Too true, too true.
>
> This bike is getting pretty fancy. I cannot decide if I should just go 
> with it or toss plastic SKS fenders in there so the thing is a bit more 
> humble.
>
> Riv can’t do the fenders without the wheels, and Analog will have the 
> wheels but no frame. Analog is planning for a fender-mount for my tail 
> light, so someone has to do them! It’s a fine kettle of fish, as they say 
> where I’m from...
>
> Roberta and Ann and Joyce - yes, #RivSisters forever. Platypuses on 
> parade. And so on and so forth!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I am generally not a fan of wood fenders either but I can't argue that 
> those would look good on the Ras-Platypus.  I'm trying to figure out what 
> fork crown that is on the Platypus, it's very similar looking to the Clem / 
> Hunq one but not the same (my Clem's got a half moon shape where that has 
> three dots).  Knowing that inside dimension would be helpful before 
> suggesting over-60mm fenders, but VO makes a 63mm fluted model for 700c 
> that would look good imo. 
>
> Re-radiusing is quite doable but also nice to avoid if possible, since 
> it's really not that hard to mess it up and end up with the wrong kind of 
> wavy fender. 
>
>   
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[RBW] Re: FS: Noodle Bars and Tallux Stem

[Michael Cyr]

Oh, and I'll certainly clean off bar tape residue before shipping. 


On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:05:46 PM UTC-4 Michael Cyr wrote:

> Howdy all,
>
> I have a 46cm Noodle Bar and 12cm reach Tallux Stem. 26mm clamp size. 
>
> Both pulled off a new to me, barely-used, Rambouillet purchased this 
> summer. Used, but look great and totally functional. $45 shipped, $30 local 
> Vermont pickup.
>

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Re: [RBW] silver shifter slip under load

[Bill Lindsay]

It sounds like it may be worthwhile for you to have a good mechanic inspect 
your setup.  Diagnosis shouldn't take long for a good mechanic.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:06:11 AM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:

> Interesting perhaps it's also somthing else in the drivetrain. Like the 
> cassette? I have had the bike for 8 years but this one was seldom used. 
> Let's see if the locktight not only helps with lever slip but with the 
> pedals free spinning for a quarter revolution at random times, as a 
> possible slip symptom. 
>
> Thanks all I'll report back after I test it on some hills.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 10:25 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Sam: FWIW, I used my Silvers, original version, with an old 8-speed-era 
>> XT rd as well as several others; I didin't notice that slippage was worse 
>> with the XT than with the Dura Ace or Microshift or LX reverse pull, but at 
>> any rate, blue Loctite kept the lever firm with all these derailleurs.
>>
>> (And, just in case, blue also fixed any slipping problem with XT, LX, and 
>> Dura Ace front derailleurs.)
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:06 PM Sam Perez  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm begining to think the xt rear derailleur has a big part in it. It's 
>>> a thick steel  mt bike frame  I'm sure flex has a minor part bc I tried to 
>>> slowly crank up a hill without leveraging the bars as to not flex the bike, 
>>> and the silver shifter slipped to the next gear. After a few shifts it only 
>>> loosened. I just got home from the hardware store. Gonna apply locktight. 
>>> My silver shifter is the first model so the washer i have is the one that 
>>> they later improved on. I don't know where to get a list of deraliurs with 
>>> strong springs or if there is a list of deraliurs that are not as 
>>> compatible with silver DT shifters. I'll report back after some rides.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 5:32 PM Nikko Mendoza  wrote:
>>>
 Hey Sam, 

 I just got some brand new Silver Shifters (v1) today that I put on with 
 some VO thumbies. I'm having a similar-ish problem and wondering if you're 
 experiencing the same, but more along the lines of the problem J L 
 mentioned (spring return) . 

 My problem is that the shifting for the front shifter is suuper 
 hard to do. Is this similar to your problem? I push the shifter pretty 
 hard 
 and I feel like I'm definitely forcing it. I finally get it to shift, but 
 then I do that a couple more times, and at this point the cable is looser 
 than it was before, getting pulled out of the tensioning screw. Do you 
 think the problem is similar, or is this really just a difference in the 
 spring return of the front derailleur? 

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 4:31 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Note that the levers would loosen and slip even when the plastic 
> tension washers were whole. Blue Loctite solved the slipping problem but 
> not the washer breakage (or shifter body breakage) problem.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:30 PM Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
>
>> I applied blue Loctite to the tension bolts, and this worked. But the 
>> need to do this, and my experience of breaking 2 right-side Silver 
>> shifter 
>> bodies when my bikes fell over, took me back to the old Suntour Bar Cons 
>> -- 
>> where I have to use blue Loctite anyway to ensure that the shiny and 
>> very 
>> hard to find locknuts don't fall off.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:44 AM Sam Perez  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi guys, how do you keep your silver shifters form slipping under 
>>> load, i tighten the retention bolt but when i play with it it slowly 
>>> loosens with multiple shifts, i do lots of hills and need confidence 
>>> that i 
>>> wont ghost shift under load.
>>>
>>> thanks
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Re: [RBW] Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

[Paul Brodek]

Late reply, but I did manage to measure the bb drop t'other day: 76mm, so 
not quite 80mm, but deep.

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 10:37:50 AM UTC-4, Andy Beichler wrote:
>
> I love that color.  The bottom bracket looks low.  Had Grant started to 
> use the 80mm of drop then or is it just the angle of the picture?
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 10:11:47 AM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>
>> Beautiful, enjoy. 
>>
>> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 12:56:34 AM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>>> Lovely build, Paul!
>>> Same year and color as my Riv Road:  1998 Rivendell Road 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 1998 Rivendell Road
>>>
>>> Explore this photo album by letton on Flickr!
>>> 
>>>
>>> Enjoy the ride!
>>> cheers,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 21, 2020, 11:03:29 AM GMT+10, Paul Brodek <
>>> pcb@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Took a little while, but I finally landed Ray Foss' '98 Custom 
>>> Starck-Riv Road frameset. Ray got it from the original owner, but with many 
>>> other awesome mounts to choose from, Ray never managed to build it up. 
>>> Doesn't look like Art M., the original owner, rode it much before selling 
>>> it to Ray. I did manage to build it up, but haven't managed to ride it yet. 
>>> Maybe tomorrow?
>>>
>>> It's only my second Riv, the first was an even earlier '95 Waterford-Riv 
>>> Road. Bought that one from Peter B. maybe 7-8yrs ago, sold it last 
>>> year-ish. If I do the math, gaining 3yrs every Riv buy over an 8yr stretch, 
>>> in about 64yrs I'll have myself a '21! I'm catching up!
>>>
>>> I mulled over the build while reeling it in, decided on this first 
>>> go-round to do a period-correct-ish Riv quasi-tribute, all silver 
>>> components, nothing insanely current. The frame came with Silver dt 
>>> shifters, so they had to stay. Very few silver-rimmed wheelsets under my 
>>> roof, at least ones that are modern-enough to have a 130mm rear OLN. All I 
>>> had was a clean set of Ultegra tri-color hubs on Mavic Reflex SUP. 'Sup? 
>>> Then I found a decent amount of Dura-Ace 7x00-series silver stuff, so 
>>> rder/brakes/cranks/stem are D-A. The top tube is a little on the long side 
>>> for me, 60.5cm, so the D-A stem is only 90mm. Tried a D-A post, but there's 
>>> not a lot of post showing, and the bottom of the flutes on the D-A post sat 
>>> below the lugline, providing a possible water incursion route, so a 
>>> cut-short Thomson Elite works for now. Been saving the green Brooks B-17 
>>> Champion standard for something, turns out it was this.
>>>
>>> I wanted non-aero brake cable routing, but I'm no longer thrilled with 
>>> those smaller vintage lever bodies. Then I remembered a pair of Campy 
>>> C-Record dual-routing levers weresomewhere...and they turned up. 
>>> Pairing them with the D-A 7800 dual-pivots is a little weird, I'm wishing 
>>> the caliper spring tension was higher, but it oughta work OK.
>>>
>>> It's geared for now with a 38/24 compact double, using a Peter 
>>> White-sourced TA Zephyr K tripelizer ring, mounted on the inside position. 
>>> 11-28t 8spd cassette in the rear, so I still get a decent low gear and can 
>>> use the med-cage D-A rder. The Shimano CX-70 fder sits a little high over 
>>> the outer ring, can't get it any lower without scraping the top of the 
>>> chainstay, but it shifts fine in the stand. I didn't have a BBG bashguard 
>>> small enough to use in the outer position, I'd have to raise the fder even 
>>> higher for that, so there's a weird BBG spacer thingie there. Coulda just 
>>> used track chainring bolts, but I guess I was looking for more silvery 
>>> bling, and an unused outer chainring ledge just looks a little lonely.
>>>
>>> The frame's built around 49mm-reach brakes, and the 33mm Soma Supple 
>>> Vitesse SLs at about 30mm on the narrow Mavic rims are close to max. Pinch 
>>> point is under the calipers, as it should be on a well-designed 49mm-reach 
>>> frame, so wider would work OK, but taller would get too tight.
>>>
>>> Having never shifted an 8spd cog range in friction mode before, I'm 
>>> looking forward to a nice ride with a fair amount of cussing.
>>>
>>> Flickr album here:
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmQTkD5A
>>>
>>> [image: 50364618333_7b44b70f2e_c.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: 50365316941_5a20d1cf7d_c.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: 50364617503_09c1647a2e_c.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: 50365315696_71c9a96177_c.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Brodek
>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell car question

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks; that might work, tho' owning a car just to drive it to keep the
fluids circulating seems somehow --- circular. In fact, I was just thinking
about this: left to myself, I generally overcome my distaste and reluctance
and run multiple box store errands around town -- Costco, Target, hardware
store -- about once every 6 weeks; suburban driving, but generally about
20-25 miles total. I guess this is close enough to your idea. Robert's
experience would seem to back up this "longer, less frequent" method.

I was just speculating about the need to keep the car, but it costs me,
were I alone using it, about $60 per month for 100 miles per month year
round (probably double what I actually drive), and everything that can
break has been fixed or replaced. So it's hardly getting rid of it to use
Lyft. And then, of course, Catie wants it badly when she is in town -- she
pays the $1,000 additional premium over my $536 per year.

2006 PT Cruiser bought used and cheap in 2011 to drive my mother around in.
I keep the rear seats out and use it as a little panel truck.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:36 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Engines hate not doing the thing engines do, the oil gunks up and the
> seals harden and it's all bad. I'd start it a couple times a month and go
> for a 30 mile drive every two months. Not a scientific calculation, it's
> just what makes sense to me.
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 5:02:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Robert. I should have added that I am somewhat less concerned
>> about the battery draining, since this is an older (2006) car, and again,
>> has a new battery -- I've left it, with the old battery, for a month and
>> the car started right up. And I have a better AAA contract, and am wholly
>> willing to make them work for my annual fee.
>>
>> I ought to have aked, "How often at minimum must you drive, and for how
>> far, to keep the gaskets pliable and the inner bits lubricated?"
>>
>> No mice in my garage, thank God!
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:54 PM Robert Tilley  wrote:
>>
>>> My camper van sits months at a time without use. I do have solar panels
>>> on it which keeps all batteries topped off so that's not an issue for me.
>>> Without that I'd be taking it out once every week or two to keep that
>>> batteries charged.  Working from home and not driving much did mean I had
>>> to jump my wife's car after it sat for a week or so unused. It had only
>>> been driven for short trips at that time so it likely never achieved a full
>>> charge from the alternator.  My Jeep gets little use these days since I use
>>> a bike for about everything but it has had no battery issues yet.
>>>
>>> I haven't noticed any issues from letting my van sit but I do worry
>>> about gaskets that could dry out if oil isn't moving across them regularly.
>>> My van is 4x4 so I would think the front & rear differential gaskets and
>>> maybe the transmission.
>>>
>>> I did have mice build a nice house under the hood once so I do check
>>> there before starting the motor. They left all electrical wiring alone and
>>> I'm thankful for that.
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device
>>> *From:* bert...@gmail.com
>>> *Sent:* October 6, 2020 4:40 PM
>>> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Reply-to:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Rivendell car question
>>>
>>> Train of thought: I drove =/< 200 miles between my 1/13/20 oil change
>>> and the 6/15/20 garage visit for various electrical maladies. (My daughter
>>> returned in March and added 900 miles before she departed mid-September;
>>> total between us of ~1,060 miles in 9 months.) The main reason for such
>>> small mileage is that I ride my bikes for errands. My bikes are all either
>>> Rivendells or built upon Rivendell models. QED.
>>>
>>> Question is: how often ought one to drive a car to keep the battery
>>> charged and the fluids minimally circulating? The car had been sitting for
>>> 3 weeks since Catie left, and it was only today that I took it out and
>>> drove small detours to the nearby bike shop to get a bike box -- total out
>>> 'n' back of under 7 miles.
>>>
>>> All worked well; new battery and new alternator.
>>>
>>> Online expert advice ranges from weekly to every few months, and "let it
>>> idle for 5 minutes" to "get it out in traffic and really drive it for some
>>> miles."
>>>
>>> I know some of you know cars; what's the best minimum practice, and I
>>> emphasize "minimum"?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] silver shifter slip under load

[Sam Perez]

Interesting perhaps it's also somthing else in the drivetrain. Like the
cassette? I have had the bike for 8 years but this one was seldom used.
Let's see if the locktight not only helps with lever slip but with the
pedals free spinning for a quarter revolution at random times, as a
possible slip symptom.

Thanks all I'll report back after I test it on some hills.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 10:25 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Sam: FWIW, I used my Silvers, original version, with an old 8-speed-era XT
> rd as well as several others; I didin't notice that slippage was worse with
> the XT than with the Dura Ace or Microshift or LX reverse pull, but at any
> rate, blue Loctite kept the lever firm with all these derailleurs.
>
> (And, just in case, blue also fixed any slipping problem with XT, LX, and
> Dura Ace front derailleurs.)
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:06 PM Sam Perez  wrote:
>
>> I'm begining to think the xt rear derailleur has a big part in it. It's a
>> thick steel  mt bike frame  I'm sure flex has a minor part bc I tried to
>> slowly crank up a hill without leveraging the bars as to not flex the bike,
>> and the silver shifter slipped to the next gear. After a few shifts it only
>> loosened. I just got home from the hardware store. Gonna apply locktight.
>> My silver shifter is the first model so the washer i have is the one that
>> they later improved on. I don't know where to get a list of deraliurs with
>> strong springs or if there is a list of deraliurs that are not as
>> compatible with silver DT shifters. I'll report back after some rides.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 5:32 PM Nikko Mendoza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Sam,
>>>
>>> I just got some brand new Silver Shifters (v1) today that I put on with
>>> some VO thumbies. I'm having a similar-ish problem and wondering if you're
>>> experiencing the same, but more along the lines of the problem J L
>>> mentioned (spring return) .
>>>
>>> My problem is that the shifting for the front shifter is suuper hard
>>> to do. Is this similar to your problem? I push the shifter pretty hard and
>>> I feel like I'm definitely forcing it. I finally get it to shift, but then
>>> I do that a couple more times, and at this point the cable is looser than
>>> it was before, getting pulled out of the tensioning screw. Do you think the
>>> problem is similar, or is this really just a difference in the spring
>>> return of the front derailleur?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 4:31 PM Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Note that the levers would loosen and slip even when the plastic
 tension washers were whole. Blue Loctite solved the slipping problem but
 not the washer breakage (or shifter body breakage) problem.

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:30 PM Patrick Moore 
 wrote:

> I applied blue Loctite to the tension bolts, and this worked. But the
> need to do this, and my experience of breaking 2 right-side Silver shifter
> bodies when my bikes fell over, took me back to the old Suntour Bar Cons 
> --
> where I have to use blue Loctite anyway to ensure that the shiny and very
> hard to find locknuts don't fall off.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:44 AM Sam Perez 
> wrote:
>
>> hi guys, how do you keep your silver shifters form slipping under
>> load, i tighten the retention bolt but when i play with it it slowly
>> loosens with multiple shifts, i do lots of hills and need confidence 
>> that i
>> wont ghost shift under load.
>>
>> thanks
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any particular grease cleaner you would recommend!

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, James. I've recently applied "Rock 'n' Roll Gold" which I guess is
a "dry" lube to a chain and wiped and wiped; was surprised to see how dry
the outside of the chain felt the next morning. I'll have to test this
again with a little more attention to see if it holds the squeaks at bay
for 400 miles (road bike) and to see if the outside of the chain remains
clean. If it works, I may switch to this or to Pro Link again.

The wax method does clean the chain, btw; first, there's very little dirt
that accumulates on the chain, and second, what does falls off in the
melted wax and forms a sludge on the bottom of the crockpot.

But easy as waxing is, you are right, applying Pro Link, etc to the chain
while it is on the bike, and wiping half a dozen times is easier yet.

Aside: Long ago -- 2010? -- I used White Lightning, supposed to be dry and
clean. It didn't attract sand, but it built up thick coils of grunge on the
cogs that you had to scrape off. I'm still finishing up the last 8 oz
bottle, probably a good 8-10 years old, by putting a bit on my pedals' clip
mechanism every so often; not sure it does much good ...

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:10 AM James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> By your own writing, you have the same maintenance interval with prolink
> as you do with wax.  400 miles on road, 200 off.  I'd say the difference is
> ease of use with prolink.  It's faster, and all you need is a rag and
> prolink.  It's less expensive.  It cleans the chain, which wax does not.
> It has no PTFE, which is just about the worst thing you can use on your
> bike if you are fond of the outdoors.  Ski resorts are ahead of the game on
> this, banning PTFE from ski waxes on their slopes.
>
> So, really, I'd recommend the same thing we use up here in the wet.
> Prolink and a rag.  I wouldn't apply the prolink sparingly, it only works
> as a cleaner if you get it dripping wet.  Let it sit for a just a few
> minutes, then wipe 95% of it off.  Done.  10 minutes, tops, with the post
> lube rim cleaning.
>
> Obviously, everyone is gunna have their own best method.  I want mine to
> be fast, effective, affordable and relatively eco friendly.  BTW, if anyone
> has used a GOOD actual eco lube, I'm all ears.  I've tried many, been
> impressed by none.  Requirements: has to be available stateside.  Not very
> eco friendly to fly lube over from England.
>
> -James
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sheesh: More clearly and accurately: the main criteria are: chain and cog
>> longevity; shifting performance; time between lubes; ease of lubing and
>> cleaning; and distant fourth, a clean chain exterior.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:44 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> ... But the main criterion is chain and cog and ring longevity.
>>> Actually, my rings last forever, so let's say cog and chain longevity; and
>>> also shifting performance, tho' I presently have onlhy 1 derailleur bike.
>>>
>>> Thoughts and suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any particular grease cleaner you would recommend!

[Joel Stern]

I ride on dry Conditions only and was steered to Fastline dry lube.  I also
read about Rock and Roll gold.  For my riding are you saying Prolink, and
no degreaser?

Thanks
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM James / Analog Cycles <
analogcyc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> By your own writing, you have the same maintenance interval with prolink
> as you do with wax.  400 miles on road, 200 off.  I'd say the difference is
> ease of use with prolink.  It's faster, and all you need is a rag and
> prolink.  It's less expensive.  It cleans the chain, which wax does not.
> It has no PTFE, which is just about the worst thing you can use on your
> bike if you are fond of the outdoors.  Ski resorts are ahead of the game on
> this, banning PTFE from ski waxes on their slopes.
>
> So, really, I'd recommend the same thing we use up here in the wet.
> Prolink and a rag.  I wouldn't apply the prolink sparingly, it only works
> as a cleaner if you get it dripping wet.  Let it sit for a just a few
> minutes, then wipe 95% of it off.  Done.  10 minutes, tops, with the post
> lube rim cleaning.
>
> Obviously, everyone is gunna have their own best method.  I want mine to
> be fast, effective, affordable and relatively eco friendly.  BTW, if anyone
> has used a GOOD actual eco lube, I'm all ears.  I've tried many, been
> impressed by none.  Requirements: has to be available stateside.  Not very
> eco friendly to fly lube over from England.
>
> -James
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sheesh: More clearly and accurately: the main criteria are: chain and cog
>> longevity; shifting performance; time between lubes; ease of lubing and
>> cleaning; and distant fourth, a clean chain exterior.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:44 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> ... But the main criterion is chain and cog and ring longevity.
>>> Actually, my rings last forever, so let's say cog and chain longevity; and
>>> also shifting performance, tho' I presently have onlhy 1 derailleur bike.
>>>
>>> Thoughts and suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any particular grease cleaner you would recommend!

[James / Analog Cycles]

Hi Patrick,

By your own writing, you have the same maintenance interval with prolink as 
you do with wax.  400 miles on road, 200 off.  I'd say the difference is 
ease of use with prolink.  It's faster, and all you need is a rag and 
prolink.  It's less expensive.  It cleans the chain, which wax does not.  
It has no PTFE, which is just about the worst thing you can use on your 
bike if you are fond of the outdoors.  Ski resorts are ahead of the game on 
this, banning PTFE from ski waxes on their slopes.  

So, really, I'd recommend the same thing we use up here in the wet.  
Prolink and a rag.  I wouldn't apply the prolink sparingly, it only works 
as a cleaner if you get it dripping wet.  Let it sit for a just a few 
minutes, then wipe 95% of it off.  Done.  10 minutes, tops, with the post 
lube rim cleaning.

Obviously, everyone is gunna have their own best method.  I want mine to be 
fast, effective, affordable and relatively eco friendly.  BTW, if anyone 
has used a GOOD actual eco lube, I'm all ears.  I've tried many, been 
impressed by none.  Requirements: has to be available stateside.  Not very 
eco friendly to fly lube over from England.

-James

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Sheesh: More clearly and accurately: the main criteria are: chain and cog 
> longevity; shifting performance; time between lubes; ease of lubing and 
> cleaning; and distant fourth, a clean chain exterior. 
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:44 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> ... But the main criterion is chain and cog and ring longevity. Actually, 
>> my rings last forever, so let's say cog and chain longevity; and also 
>> shifting performance, tho' I presently have onlhy 1 derailleur bike.
>>
>> Thoughts and suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

[lconley]

I stand corrected.

Laing

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 12:52:01 AM UTC-4, Richard Sachs wrote:
>
>
> *On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:27:53 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com 
> wrote:*
> *Legend has it that Sachs designed lugs for Bridgestone that ended up 
> being used on the first Road Standards. Any truth to that?*
>
> I did (design these for Bridgestone.)
>
>
> *On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 5:54:04 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:*
> *Pretty sure that is an "M" for Maxway.*
>
> The W is for Walter. 
>
> e-RICHIE
> Deep River, CT
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Comparing drop bars to uprights: Path Less Pedaled

[Mark Roland]

It was done as a let's see if it works experiment, not for actual day to 
day use. Though the longer top tubes of vintage mountain bikes and many 
current Rivs might allow for one of the zero offset stems from Analog 
Cycles to work with bar ends and drops.

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:26:58 PM UTC-4, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I believe them that it handled fine but I am having a hard time 
> understanding how the bar-con's aren't an issue with knee clearance.  I am 
> certain I'd be hitting them all the time when I try to stand and pedal 
> (both the impale and the ghost shift would be unwelcome).  I dig the funky 
> vintage safety bicycle look though. 
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Soma San Marcos frame, 59cm, $400

[Ben Mihovk]

Really cool frame! I actually like the look of the DTT...I prefer the 
curved style on Atlantis and Homer, though. 

If I was itching for a project, this bike would be a perfect fit. 

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 4:01:46 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> I'm guessing many here aren't on Pinkbike, so I'll throw this out:
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2884431/
>
> Not mine, no relation, etc.
>
> Eric
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