Re: [RBW] FS: Copenhagen Wheel $1,100

[Joe Bernard]

Huh, I'm surprised the author of that article gave so much weight to a 
second-hand owner of the wheel. I liked mine (also bought used and on its 
third owner now) and had no problems with it, but yes it's a proprietary 
product that's hard to repair, and will now be hard to replace since the 
company has stop producing them. BUT getting less than the claimed 30 miles 
is not unusual, the owner in question provided no documentation for how 
many charge cycles were on the battery when they bought it. 15-20 miles 
average is fair for a used Copenhagen Wheel IMO, and you can easily knock 
that down to 10 if you're at full power up hills. You can also stretch it 
much further with judicious use of the O power setting on slight declines, 
the wheel freewheels well and can be pedaled unpowered. It's all part of 
the hyper-miling game of an ebike..stretch that range! 

Rain? Pfft, don't do that, I don't care what "light rain" claims 
Superpedestrian made. When the owner of the used wheel started talking rain 
rides all bets were off for me. Maybe the latest factory-built (and 
expensive) ebikes can do that but I wouldn't trust ANY kit in the wet. I 
have two options for rain: A regular bike or my trusty Chevy Impala with a 
nice heater and SiriusXM Radio. 

I think the wheel is an ok purchase at the right price you decide with a 
seller, just don't expect it to do everything your regular bike will, and 
don't be shocked when one day the battery has given up and so should you. 
It's a specific product for specific riding conditions and worked great for 
me as an around town shopper/cruiser. And was great fun. On dry days! 

Joe Bernard

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 5:23:57 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Yes, good insights and well written, particularly of interest (to me) of 
> the complications and difficulties added by startups trying to launch 
> technologically complex new products. I learned much from his observations.
>
> Not a few of my resume clients are either entrepreneurs who have taken 
> technology to global markets, or who are currenlty incubating high-tech 
> products for future investment, organizational development, market entry 
> and expansion, and -- the *uber* goal -- purchase by a company or a group 
> with a lot of money. Rinse, repeat. This article fills in at least in a 
> general way some of the obstacles they face.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:53 AM Alex Wirth <482...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Woof.  Excellent article.  Having been a bionx dealer and a Copenhagen 
>>> Wheel dealer, it's all too familiar.
>>>
>>
>> Sadly, customer support has gone the way of the dodo and dealers end up 
>> eating a lot of time in exchange for not a lot of margin.
>>
>> I still ride a bionx system myself (modified bakfiets) and my dad's 
>> copenhagenized clem make two technological time bombs waiting to happen 
>>
>> Sad to hear they didn't make it...
>>
>> Alex in Rochester, NY
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[RBW] 1993 Bridgestone MB-1

[EMJr]

Resto-mod (painted by Bilenky Cycles). Inspired by Ritchey Designs.  Low 
mileage; been stored for a few years. $1100 CONUS shipping included. 
 Cheers.

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Re: [RBW] Electric bicycles (Was: Copenhagen wheel)

[Sky Coulter]

Nice bike!  I’d love the new gsd r14 for me if i was upgrading. I bought my 
wife a riese and muller load 75 to take our youngest to preschool after getting 
my ebike off craigslist. She loves it and uses it mosy days...sky

> On Jan 13, 2021, at 9:12 PM, rltil...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I went with an option that was definitely not the most cost effective but it 
> is one I would do again now that I’ve been using it for over a year. I went 
> with a Tern GSD S00 e-cargo bike.
> 
> The bike takes up about the same amount of room as a normal bike but can 
> carry 400 lbs. It also adjusts to fit nearly any rider so my 5’ 2” wife can 
> ride it by quickly adjusting the saddle and bars. I ike the included panniers 
> but do miss the larger size of my old Xtracycle bags sometimes. I added a 
> front rack to add some cargo carrying capacity.
> 
> The Bosch system feels just like a normal bike due to the torque sensor. It 
> just feels like I have Lance’s legs instead of my own. The interesting thing 
> for me is that my average heart rate is the same on the e-bike as it is on my 
> other bikes. I just get more speed out of it.
> 
> https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Tern-GDS-S00-2019/i-XWgxBkQ/A
> 
> I added an extra battery to mine and can get a bit over 60 miles using the 
> highest assist level.   At the lowest assist it would be well over 100 miles. 
> One battery would do about half that I believe. I rarely use my car for 
> errands these days. It only gets fired up for fun stuff.
> 
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I was sorry to hear that the CW is no longer being made. Tho' my contact was 
>> solely press releases and enthusiast product reviews, it did seem, to me, to 
>> be a very neat and imaginative packaging of a very useful technology.
>> 
>> And this leads me to a question that I've been mulling over for a few years 
>> now. Question 1: If you want and electric bicycle, for loaded errand riding 
>> with ~30 mile out-and-back range, what is the most cost effective way to do 
>> this?
>> 
>> I've thought that, if I ever upgrade to a lighter and better quality ss 
>> mountain bike, that the Monocog 29er would make a dandy electric conversion 
>> platform. So, Question 2: if one were to choose modification instead of 
>> purchase, what is the most long-term cost effective way to make such a 
>> conversion?
>> 
>> Or should I just look up plan to motorize a bicycle using a chainsaw motor?
>> 
>> Patrick Moore, who is kidding about the chainsaw, but who really did once 
>> see, parked outside a bike shop, a Whizzer in tout motor cycle gang black 
>> with ape hanger bars and big wing mirrors. I saw the owner inside. He was 
>> wearing a black leather jacket and boots. Not kidding this time!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Electric bicycles (Was: Copenhagen wheel)

[rltilley]

I went with an option that was definitely not the most cost effective but it is 
one I would do again now that I’ve been using it for over a year. I went with a 
Tern GSD S00 e-cargo bike.

The bike takes up about the same amount of room as a normal bike but can carry 
400 lbs. It also adjusts to fit nearly any rider so my 5’ 2” wife can ride it 
by quickly adjusting the saddle and bars. I ike the included panniers but do 
miss the larger size of my old Xtracycle bags sometimes. I added a front rack 
to add some cargo carrying capacity.

The Bosch system feels just like a normal bike due to the torque sensor. It 
just feels like I have Lance’s legs instead of my own. The interesting thing 
for me is that my average heart rate is the same on the e-bike as it is on my 
other bikes. I just get more speed out of it.

https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Tern-GDS-S00-2019/i-XWgxBkQ/A

I added an extra battery to mine and can get a bit over 60 miles using the 
highest assist level.   At the lowest assist it would be well over 100 miles. 
One battery would do about half that I believe. I rarely use my car for errands 
these days. It only gets fired up for fun stuff.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was sorry to hear that the CW is no longer being made. Tho' my contact was 
> solely press releases and enthusiast product reviews, it did seem, to me, to 
> be a very neat and imaginative packaging of a very useful technology.
> 
> And this leads me to a question that I've been mulling over for a few years 
> now. Question 1: If you want and electric bicycle, for loaded errand riding 
> with ~30 mile out-and-back range, what is the most cost effective way to do 
> this?
> 
> I've thought that, if I ever upgrade to a lighter and better quality ss 
> mountain bike, that the Monocog 29er would make a dandy electric conversion 
> platform. So, Question 2: if one were to choose modification instead of 
> purchase, what is the most long-term cost effective way to make such a 
> conversion?
> 
> Or should I just look up plan to motorize a bicycle using a chainsaw motor?
> 
> Patrick Moore, who is kidding about the chainsaw, but who really did once 
> see, parked outside a bike shop, a Whizzer in tout motor cycle gang black 
> with ape hanger bars and big wing mirrors. I saw the owner inside. He was 
> wearing a black leather jacket and boots. Not kidding this time!
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Electric bicycles (Was: Copenhagen wheel)

[Sky Coulter]

I currently have a 59cm Clem L setup w a bionx d500 rear wheel, a 550wh battery 
and i bought the dealer hardware to have control over things like top speed, 
breaking torque, etc.  

This setup allows me to commute 25km round trip without worrying about the 
battery dying on me.  I have it set so it’ll run at 45/hr which uses up more 
battery. I can count on 30km without conserving battery, and closer to 50km if 
i use only level 1 (of 4) pedal assist.  

The bionx setup came to me via craigslist w a 60cm sam hillborne attached for 
2500 cad.  So if the hillborne is worth 1000-1500, then the bionx kit is 
1000-1500.  Which i think is about as good as it gets, especially since neither 
bike nor bionx kit had seen much use at all (only 160km when i purchased it).  

I think you can see the setup if you follow this link:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKApVDlFDqi/?igshid=2h7upjeq8t82

> On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was sorry to hear that the CW is no longer being made. Tho' my contact was 
> solely press releases and enthusiast product reviews, it did seem, to me, to 
> be a very neat and imaginative packaging of a very useful technology.
> 
> And this leads me to a question that I've been mulling over for a few years 
> now. Question 1: If you want and electric bicycle, for loaded errand riding 
> with ~30 mile out-and-back range, what is the most cost effective way to do 
> this?
> 
> I've thought that, if I ever upgrade to a lighter and better quality ss 
> mountain bike, that the Monocog 29er would make a dandy electric conversion 
> platform. So, Question 2: if one were to choose modification instead of 
> purchase, what is the most long-term cost effective way to make such a 
> conversion?
> 
> Or should I just look up plan to motorize a bicycle using a chainsaw motor?
> 
> Patrick Moore, who is kidding about the chainsaw, but who really did once 
> see, parked outside a bike shop, a Whizzer in tout motor cycle gang black 
> with ape hanger bars and big wing mirrors. I saw the owner inside. He was 
> wearing a black leather jacket and boots. Not kidding this time!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: Copenhagen Wheel $1,100

[Patrick Moore]

Yes, good insights and well written, particularly of interest (to me) of
the complications and difficulties added by startups trying to launch
technologically complex new products. I learned much from his observations.

Not a few of my resume clients are either entrepreneurs who have taken
technology to global markets, or who are currenlty incubating high-tech
products for future investment, organizational development, market entry
and expansion, and -- the *uber* goal -- purchase by a company or a group
with a lot of money. Rinse, repeat. This article fills in at least in a
general way some of the obstacles they face.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:53 AM Alex Wirth <4824...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Woof.  Excellent article.  Having been a bionx dealer and a Copenhagen
>> Wheel dealer, it's all too familiar.
>>
>
> Sadly, customer support has gone the way of the dodo and dealers end up
> eating a lot of time in exchange for not a lot of margin.
>
> I still ride a bionx system myself (modified bakfiets) and my dad's
> copenhagenized clem make two technological time bombs waiting to happen 
>
> Sad to hear they didn't make it...
>
> Alex in Rochester, NY
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Re: [RBW] Re: Swap of Clem Smith Jr. for Joe Appaloosa (adjustment for value)

[Brian Oldham]

Thank you Ryan.  You are #1.  This Clem has a front generator, Shimano
pedals, front and back Nitto racks, Wald basket (139) and will soon have
the Wavy Bar, smoother gearing, and Renee Herse tires.

I'll let you know about the difference after this fix.

Brian Oldham

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 3:10 PM Ryan Nute  wrote:

> I'm interested Brian.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 9:06:44 AM UTC-8 brianma...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I would like to find someone who would like to buy my Clem Smith Jr. or
>> swap for a Joe Appaloosa.
>>
>> The Clem is in perfect shape.  It is a 52 with generator light, double
>> kick stand, Let's talk.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

[Patrick Moore]

This is very good to know. I don't expect that I will want to go beyond 10
-- when I decided to convert from friction 9 to friction 10, I thought I
was being daringly cutting edge -- but it's good to know that there remain
further possibilities, if and when.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 10:08 AM Adam Bowen 
wrote:

> I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end
> and GX Eagle derailer/cassette. I have been pleased with how well it works
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[RBW] Wanted son 32 /36 spoke and more

[Sam Perez]

Hi all,
1) Looking for the following
32/36 spoke son hub preference for rim brake  but may be interested in disk
( intended for a 26 inch wheel in mind)

2) mid shackville shop sack in brown or green

3)Son delux 2 light

Have saddles and tones of bike parts I'll put up for sale /trade.

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[RBW] Re: Swap of Clem Smith Jr. for Joe Appaloosa (adjustment for value)

[Ryan Nute]

I'm interested Brian.

Ryan

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 9:06:44 AM UTC-8 brianma...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I would like to find someone who would like to buy my Clem Smith Jr. or 
> swap for a Joe Appaloosa.
>
> The Clem is in perfect shape.  It is a 52 with generator light, double 
> kick stand, Let's talk. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: 52cm Clem H frame or Bombadil

[Ryan Nute]

Preferably a frame since I have some parts sitting around, but considering a 
complete as well!

Ryan


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Subject: [RBW] Re: Wanted: 52cm Clem H frame or Bombadil

Are you looking for frame or complete?

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-6 rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone: Sold my 52 Clem H and now wish I hadn't.  RBW advises no more 
until 2022.  Anyone have a Clem H or even possibly a Bombadil they'd like to 
rehome?  Thanks!

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: 52cm Clem H frame or Bombadil

[Ray]

Are you looking for frame or complete?

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 2:06:44 PM UTC-6 rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hi everyone: Sold my 52 Clem H and now wish I hadn't.  RBW advises no more 
> until 2022.  Anyone have a Clem H or even possibly a Bombadil they'd like 
> to rehome?  Thanks!
>
> Ryan
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[RBW] Wanted: 52cm Clem H frame or Bombadil

[Ryan Nute]

Hi everyone: Sold my 52 Clem H and now wish I hadn't.  RBW advises no more 
until 2022.  Anyone have a Clem H or even possibly a Bombadil they'd like 
to rehome?  Thanks!

Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Joel Stern]

Do you think the 1/4” will be the right size?

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:58 PM Dave  wrote:

> These are sold to be used as stand ins for rack braze ons and the light
> appears to bolt into a rack braze on so I'm going to guess it should work
> fine.  May need a nut and/or washer or two, depending on if the p clamp and
> light are the same size hardware?
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:47 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Dave, thanks. And this will allow me to put the kiley or koma directly
>> into the holes?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:44 PM Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> P Clamp?
>>>
>>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FCLAMP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:37 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Jonah. I saw that. I need a fork clamp (not sure what it i
 called) for mounting the front on the my Bleriot. For my wife's bike this
 will be fine. I will have to figure out how to adapt something so I can
 mount this.

 On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:07 PM Jonah Cohn 
 wrote:

> The Crust site includes both front and rear!
>
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joel Stern 
> wrote:
>
>> I finally found the ordering info so I sent an email since they are
>> not attending the phone.  Thanks for the help..
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM Huston  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think the Kiley is the same as the Grand Bois USB battery powered
>>> taillight pictured and sold here:
>>> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/lighting.html.
>>>
>>> Huston
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought
 from them last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.
 Blue Lug has the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable.

 Thanks


 https://everydaybicycles.ca/products/kiley-rear-usb-rechargeable-light?_pos=4&_sid=ec0eb585f&_ss=r

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Dave, worth a shot.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:58 PM Dave  wrote:

> These are sold to be used as stand ins for rack braze ons and the light
> appears to bolt into a rack braze on so I'm going to guess it should work
> fine.  May need a nut and/or washer or two, depending on if the p clamp and
> light are the same size hardware?
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:47 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Dave, thanks. And this will allow me to put the kiley or koma directly
>> into the holes?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:44 PM Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> P Clamp?
>>>
>>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FCLAMP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:37 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Jonah. I saw that. I need a fork clamp (not sure what it i
 called) for mounting the front on the my Bleriot. For my wife's bike this
 will be fine. I will have to figure out how to adapt something so I can
 mount this.

 On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:07 PM Jonah Cohn 
 wrote:

> The Crust site includes both front and rear!
>
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joel Stern 
> wrote:
>
>> I finally found the ordering info so I sent an email since they are
>> not attending the phone.  Thanks for the help..
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM Huston  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think the Kiley is the same as the Grand Bois USB battery powered
>>> taillight pictured and sold here:
>>> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/lighting.html.
>>>
>>> Huston
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought
 from them last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.
 Blue Lug has the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable.

 Thanks


 https://everydaybicycles.ca/products/kiley-rear-usb-rechargeable-light?_pos=4&_sid=ec0eb585f&_ss=r

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Dave]

These are sold to be used as stand ins for rack braze ons and the light
appears to bolt into a rack braze on so I'm going to guess it should work
fine.  May need a nut and/or washer or two, depending on if the p clamp and
light are the same size hardware?

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:47 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Dave, thanks. And this will allow me to put the kiley or koma directly
> into the holes?
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:44 PM Dave  wrote:
>
>> P Clamp?
>>
>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FCLAMP
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:37 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jonah. I saw that. I need a fork clamp (not sure what it i
>>> called) for mounting the front on the my Bleriot. For my wife's bike this
>>> will be fine. I will have to figure out how to adapt something so I can
>>> mount this.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:07 PM Jonah Cohn  wrote:
>>>
 The Crust site includes both front and rear!

 https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights

 On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> I finally found the ordering info so I sent an email since they are
> not attending the phone.  Thanks for the help..
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM Huston  wrote:
>
>>
>> I think the Kiley is the same as the Grand Bois USB battery powered
>> taillight pictured and sold here:
>> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/lighting.html.
>>
>> Huston
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought
>>> from them last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.
>>> Blue Lug has the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> https://everydaybicycles.ca/products/kiley-rear-usb-rechargeable-light?_pos=4&_sid=ec0eb585f&_ss=r
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Joel Stern]

Dave, thanks. And this will allow me to put the kiley or koma directly into
the holes?

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:44 PM Dave  wrote:

> P Clamp?
>
> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FCLAMP
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:37 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jonah. I saw that. I need a fork clamp (not sure what it i called)
>> for mounting the front on the my Bleriot. For my wife's bike this will be
>> fine. I will have to figure out how to adapt something so I can mount this.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:07 PM Jonah Cohn  wrote:
>>
>>> The Crust site includes both front and rear!
>>>
>>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>>
 I finally found the ordering info so I sent an email since they are not
 attending the phone.  Thanks for the help..

 On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM Huston  wrote:

>
> I think the Kiley is the same as the Grand Bois USB battery powered
> taillight pictured and sold here:
> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/lighting.html.
>
> Huston
>
>
> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought from
>> them last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.  Blue 
>> Lug
>> has the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> https://everydaybicycles.ca/products/kiley-rear-usb-rechargeable-light?_pos=4&_sid=ec0eb585f&_ss=r
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Re: [RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Dave]

P Clamp?

https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FCLAMP



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:37 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Thanks Jonah. I saw that. I need a fork clamp (not sure what it i called)
> for mounting the front on the my Bleriot. For my wife's bike this will be
> fine. I will have to figure out how to adapt something so I can mount this.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:07 PM Jonah Cohn  wrote:
>
>> The Crust site includes both front and rear!
>>
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>
>>> I finally found the ordering info so I sent an email since they are not
>>> attending the phone.  Thanks for the help..
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM Huston  wrote:
>>>

 I think the Kiley is the same as the Grand Bois USB battery powered
 taillight pictured and sold here:
 https://www.jitensha.com/eng/lighting.html.

 Huston


 On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought from
> them last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.  Blue 
> Lug
> has the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Jonah. I saw that. I need a fork clamp (not sure what it i called)
for mounting the front on the my Bleriot. For my wife's bike this will be
fine. I will have to figure out how to adapt something so I can mount this.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:07 PM Jonah Cohn  wrote:

> The Crust site includes both front and rear!
>
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> I finally found the ordering info so I sent an email since they are not
>> attending the phone.  Thanks for the help..
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM Huston  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think the Kiley is the same as the Grand Bois USB battery powered
>>> taillight pictured and sold here:
>>> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/lighting.html.
>>>
>>> Huston
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought from
 them last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.  Blue Lug
 has the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable.

 Thanks


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Re: [RBW] FS: Copenhagen Wheel $1,100

[Alex Wirth]

>
> Woof.  Excellent article.  Having been a bionx dealer and a Copenhagen
> Wheel dealer, it's all too familiar.
>

Sadly, customer support has gone the way of the dodo and dealers end up
eating a lot of time in exchange for not a lot of margin.

I still ride a bionx system myself (modified bakfiets) and my dad's
copenhagenized clem make two technological time bombs waiting to happen 

Sad to hear they didn't make it...

Alex in Rochester, NY

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[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

[Adam Bowen]

I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end 
and GX Eagle derailer/cassette. I have been pleased with how well it works

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 11:28:54 AM UTC-5 Matthew P wrote:

> Thank you Sam for this post. This is currently on my mind.
> My friends insisted on a clutch derailer, and then, better than insisting, 
> a friend gave me one (I reciprocated to make it a trade :)
>
> So I've been internally himming and hawing over what shifter to run on my 
> Shimano 11 speed clutch derailer and Shimano 11-42, 11 speed casette.
> One thing that came to mind is I'd like to have friction shifting an 
> option if/when, for some reason, I can't correctly tune the indexed 
> shifting with a barrel adjuster etc.
> I think the barcon/bar-end option to switch between indexed and friction 
> shifting is a really nice option and back-up plan.
> I am also a little resistant to mountain bike trigger shifters, not for 
> mechanical reasons, just...personal prefernce/bias.
>
> So I'm thinking I'll go with the Microshift 11 spd thumb shifter.
> It looks like its the SL-M11 I want:
> https://www.microshift.com/en/product/sl-m11/
> I wish it had the bolt with the folding loop on top like the Shimanos to 
> make it easier to switch between friction and indexed.
>
> I think I'm decided now, thanks, but also happy to hear more.
>
> -Matthew
> San Diego, CA
>
> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 9:24:00 PM UTC-8 Adam in Indiana wrote:
>
>> I’ve been using 1x11 for a while, in both friction and indexed.  I use an 
>> appropriate Microshift lever with a Shimano SLX clutch derailleur, and it 
>> works flawlessly.  I started it out as a bar-end, but now have it on a 
>> hydraulic Gevenalle setup.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:24:37 AM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really 
>>> curious, but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on 
>>> friction mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the 
>>> shifting more fussy ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Jonah Cohn]

The Crust site includes both front and rear!

https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> I finally found the ordering info so I sent an email since they are not
> attending the phone.  Thanks for the help..
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM Huston  wrote:
>
>>
>> I think the Kiley is the same as the Grand Bois USB battery powered
>> taillight pictured and sold here:
>> https://www.jitensha.com/eng/lighting.html.
>>
>> Huston
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought from
>>> them last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.  Blue Lug
>>> has the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> https://everydaybicycles.ca/products/kiley-rear-usb-rechargeable-light?_pos=4&_sid=ec0eb585f&_ss=r
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Re: [RBW] Re: In Praise of the Roadini

[zem...@gmail.com]

Austin, let us know how the bike turned out!

I'm always on the edge of buying this frame when Riv brings them out. Each 
new positive review brings me a little closer :)

Zack 
Toronto/DC

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:48:01 PM UTC-5 aus...@soundcoop.tv 
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> I'm in the process of building up my first Riv, a silver Roadini, and this 
> thread has me mighty excited. Thanks all,
>
> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 9:46:01 PM UTC-5 Jeff B wrote:
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>> Seems I can only post 1 at a time in this thread. Must have been 
>> something with the google change,
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[RBW] Swap of Clem Smith Jr. for Joe Appaloosa (adjustment for value)

[Brian Oldham]

I would like to find someone who would like to buy my Clem Smith Jr. or 
swap for a Joe Appaloosa.

The Clem is in perfect shape.  It is a 52 with generator light, double kick 
stand, Let's talk. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Medium Sackville Saddlesack + Fender flaps

[Greg Murphy]

Interested in the bag. What's the condition of it?

-Greg

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 7:33 AM jeffbog...@hotmail.com <
jeffbogdanov...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Price reduced to $125 for the saddlesack and $20 for the fender flaps.
>
> Jeff
> Mobile, Alabama
>
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:01:24 PM UTC-6 jeffbog...@hotmail.com
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>> Olive Saddlesack w/kangaroo pouch - $150
>> Grey Fender flaps - $30/both
>> Thanks for looking!
>>
>> Jeff
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[RBW] WTB - 60cm Appaloosa in Silver - FFHS only

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

Just a probe to see if anyone is ready to move on to another Rivendell or 
could use some funds for another project. PM me if you have one or know of 
one. Thanks.

Marty

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