[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Joe Bernard]

Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other version 
- should be addressed privately to the seller. 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
> offer.  
>
> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>
> I could use the 32F front rack...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Bump.

 I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
 flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>
>> Hey Jonathan,
>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>> pickup is possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>>> is 
>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
>>> say 
>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
>>> for 
>>> the Toyo.
>>>
>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I 
>>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>
>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>>> look, 
>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>>> Sugino 
>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
>>> Hubs. 
>>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
>>> top 
>>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>>
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>>
>>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
>>> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
>>> price.  I 
>>> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
>>> have 
>>> enough parts.
>>>
>>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
 questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? 
 (range & 
 how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
 has 
 evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
 may 
 be helpful.  

 Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
 ridden.  

 dougP

 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one. 
>  This is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  
> This is 
> a MUSA Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might 
> be a 
> little small.  I was 

Re: [RBW] What is the seller's safety with PayPal and other payments.

[Hugh Smitham]

As a seller on eBay I got burned. Sold a Sony camera and shipped to an 
address the buyer requested. It turned out that eBay recommends never send 
a package to any address other than the one on the eBay buyers account. The 
buyer paid via CC through PayPal and opened a claim that they never bought 
the item. eBay washed their hands of it since as far as they were concerned 
the transaction was successfully completed. It went to PayPal and the 
credit card company for an investigation. After 30 days the CC company 
ruled in favor of the CC holder claiming it was fraud. As the seller I lost 
close to a thousand. At the time I was a infrequent seller and really 
wasn't versed in the intricacies of the eBay market place. I haven't sold 
anything on eBay since.

I think in this age it's Buyer and seller beware. There are scoundrel's on 
both sides of the fence. 

In terms of this and the iBoB group I have never had a bad experience. I 
hope that remains the case. I have always offered PayPal as the method of 
payment with a friends and family designation believing we are on the honor 
system and saving folks some money. If a buyer want the G protection than 
I'll pass that fee onto them. 

Hugh
Los Angeles, CA  

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:35:13 PM UTC-8 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> PayPal now has a third option, which I discovered last night when I paid 
> an RBWer for a shirt: The buyer pays through Friends & Family, but pays an 
> additional fee on their own end to preserve their buyer protection (e.g., 
> seller pockets money then sends damaged product/product not meeting presale 
> description/sends no merch at all). This displaces the standard seller 
> concern (*the percentage comes out of my end!*) while allaying some of 
> the buyer's equally valid concerns when dealing with a seller they don't 
> know IRL (*how do I know you're not going to rob me?*)
>
> Most of the voiced complaints re PayPal/Venmo/Apple Pay etc. around here 
> are those of sellers who think they've gotten burned, or who fear they 
> might get burned. As a person who's been exclusively on the buyer end for 
> 25 years, and who is still wrestling with eBay/PayPal over a $750 laptop 
> that was allegedly "delivered" by FedEx (where the only evidence for a 
> delivery is a BS FedEx delivery/tracking notice - I was standing on my 
> porch when FedEx claims to have "delivered" it, and there was no truck), 
> for which the commercial seller refuses to accept any liability (even 
> though they said they didn't trust FedEx, for obviously good reason)...may 
> I say that I think there are two sides to this issue, and I'm glad that 
> someone with muscle is at least willing to pretend to contend for my 
> interest. Because otherwise, I'd be out the price of a lot of bicycles, 
> with nothing to show for it and nowhere to seek redress.
>
> And let's not ignore that in a lot of metro areas, there's a long history 
> of attractive Craigslist ads as bait, placed simply to set buyers up to be 
> mugged for the cash brought as payment for non-existant goods. In San 
> Francisco (CL Central), the problem got so bad that the SFPD had a setup 
> for awhile where exchange of payment/goods for CL purchases could happen 
> under police supervision, in the parking lots of police stations.
>
> Sure, seller beware. But buyer beware, too. There's a reason that the 
> latter one is a commonplace saying, and the former one isn't.
>
> As for "hearing of cases", I think that's a show-your-work thing. As I 
> read it, once I send money F, it's gone; I have no way to get it back, 
> whether the seller makes good on the transaction or not. Members of this 
> group should note that every PayPal payment I've made to anyone here has 
> always been F this reflects not so much my trust of people's inherent 
> decency (only people who don't know me would think I'm like that) as my 
> pinchpennyness, my fatalism, and my hope for intolerable social censure in 
> the event the transaction goes south.
>
> One thing to consider is, if a seller isn't willing to pay the Goods & 
> Services fee to offer protection to a buyer (a fee which they should be 
> incorporating into the total sales price, just as would happen with a 
> shipping fee), why should a buyer trust them? Personally, if I insisted on 
> buying a big-ticket item from a buyer too far away for me to pound on their 
> front door who refuses to go the G route, I'd bite the bullet and pay the 
> F protection fee, purely for my own safety.
>
> Peter Adler
> several times bit in
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 11:35:05 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Make sure you pull your payment from PayPal into your bank account right 
>> away. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 11:29:26 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> PayPal has two modes, Friends & Family and Goods and Services. G 
>>> charges a fee to the seller, I think 3%, but offers some protection for 
>>> both parties. F doesn’t offer any 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Hugh Smitham]

My .02 I think selling a bike as a F/F/HS is much easier. People get to 
build up the bike the way they want and the seller has an easier time 
packing, plus shipping is generally less expensive.

Hugh

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:20:55 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> Right on, well let me know what you might let the 
> frame/fork/headset/bb/wheels go for. I understand that’s more inconvenient 
> than selling the whole bike, but that’s where my interest is. If you’re not 
> into it, no worries at all. It’s a beautiful build, just not all of what 
> I’m looking for 
>
> Joe 
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:
>
>> Bill is right.  The bike looks like it was recently built up before I 
>> bought it so it is great shape but I could be convinced to part it out.  It 
>> really just depends on price.  I don't want to spend a lot of time selling 
>> individual parts.  The build is very Rivendell, and in great shape.  
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I might sell the front rack. I'll email you if I do. I just need to see 
>> the other rack options I have for a bike.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:14 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. 
>>> I’m leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we 
>>> can discuss price if so. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
 wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll 
 guarantee 
 that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
 accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
 $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
 offer.  

 Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've 
 got some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
 frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
 where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
 got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  

 I could use the 32F front rack...

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would 
> be interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
> interested if you consider that route. 
>
> Joe
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it 
>> boxed.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Bump.
>>>
>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
>>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott 
 wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
> pickup is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't 
>> find the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I 
>> think it 
>> is similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want 
>> to say 
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
>> 45 for 
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with 
>> and I 
>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for 
>> it, 
>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not 
>> Shimano (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto 
>> and 
>> can look, Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 
>> Canti 
>> Brakes, Sugino Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear 
>> derailleur, and 
>> Pasela 42 mm tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims 
>> with 
>> Velocity Hubs. Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small 
>> paint 
>> chip on the top tube 

[RBW] Re: FS: Surly Cross Check 54 - upgraded to Hunqapillar so selling! Chris King Headset and SImWorks Stem $500

[Chris L]

Pics of Hunqapillar?   

After waiting for 8 years, I finally had the opportunity to pick up a 54cm 
Hunqapillar from what I think is the very first batch.  The serial number 
is 015.

On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 3:22:16 PM UTC-6 Jeffrey S wrote:

>
> I was finally able to upgrade to my dream, and first, Rivendell, a 
> Hunqapillar, so I am selling my Surly Cross Check frameset! $500
>
> 54 cm Cross Check - 2015-2016
> Chris King 1" threadless headset
> SimWorks Dirty Rhonda stem
> Shimano Bottom bracket that fit my vintage Sugino AT triple crankset
>
> I also have from it:
> Shimano Deore 10 speed deraileur - $20
> Shimano 10 speed cassette - $10
> Shimano bottom Bracket for a double - $10
>
> I am a sign painter and painted the frame a custom pink with hand lettered 
> surly lettering. The paint job isn't the toughest, but looks cool! I have 
> the extra paint I mixed I can give you for touch ups. 
>
> I am located in Portland, OR for local pick up but can ship too, which 
> would be an extra $70 or so. That is what it cost to get my new frame here.
>
> Here is the Craigslist link 
> 
>  
> for photos.
>
> Thanks!
> Jeffrey
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for 44-46 mm 700c all rounder tires, must roll well on pavement?

[aeroperf]

I run Velocity Atlas rims (on my Sam) and Velocity Dyad rims (on my 
tourer).  I do mostly pavement riding.
I’ve run Continental Speed Ride tires for 5 years.  I haven’t had a flat 
with them, ever (though that's probably just luck).  I run them at 50 psi.
They only come in one size - 622 x 42.  They cost about $25.  My last set 
went 5000 miles.

Try them.  For the price, if you don’t like them you can pitch them without 
remorse.  But they certainly work for me.


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[RBW] Re: Salt Lake City Cycling Question

[Brady Smith]

Thanks to everyone for you responses! We're really excited about the move, 
and I can't wait to explore the cycling scene. Sounds like thorns may be 
more of an issue for the commuter bike than my all road bike, which I 
imagine I'll be taking up the canyons more often than not, so I'll be sure 
to plan accordingly. 

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-5 Mark Anderson wrote:

> Brady,
>
> First off, welcome to the neighborhood. I hope you and yours will like 
> living here.
>
> I suppose my experience since moving here a couple years ago is similar to 
> that of Jay, Glen and Robert in that I rarely have trouble with goatheads 
> in the Wasatch bench/front/up-on-the-hill areas and mostly encounter them 
> down in the valley especially through the corridor along Jordan River Trail 
> and connecting trails like the Denver & Rio Grande Western Trail going 
> north towards Ogden.  However, I would note that most of Salt Lake City, 
> its metro area and associated business/government/cultural services (e.g., 
> breweries, bowling alleys, the Bicycle Collective, most but not all of the 
> better Asian takeout food) are in the very same valley where all the 
> goatheads lie.  That is also where I live and do much of my riding and I 
> get lots of goat head punctures.
>
> Regarding armored tires, my partner's 'round-town bike has Schwalbe 
> Marathon green guard (MGG) tires and hasn't had any flats, but it also 
> hasn't been ridden a heck of a lot. The MGGs are heavy, stiff and basically 
> just so damn thick along the tread that thorns can't reach all the way 
> through to the tube. My trike came with Schwalbe Marathon Racers which have 
> a nylon fabric belt under the tread.  Thorns go through the belt pretty 
> regularly, and the local thorns are long enough to get picked up in the 
> sidewalls above the narrow belt.  A Shikoro might fare better, but I recall 
> various kevlar tires getting punctured by thorns in my distant youth in 
> northern California as well.  
>
> My solution on the trike has been to use lightweight tires (Tioga 
> Powerblock/Powerband S-Spec and Compass in ca. 40mm widths)  with inner 
> tubes containing Orange Seal---a solution cribbed from Patrick Moore's 
> posts on this list and on iBOB (thank you Patrick!).  With this setup I 
> occasionally have a puncture which noticeably leaks sealant for several 
> minutes and requires a few stops to add air as it leaks slowly before 
> finally sealing.  In the past year (9 mo. riding, about 4500 mi. on the 
> odometer) there have been two or three times when I had a puncture that 
> wouldn't seal enough while riding and I had to change tubes.  Inspecting 
> the tires and tubes at those times shows that dozens of punctures went 
> unnoticed in that same period.  Unfortunately that meant having to put a 
> new tube into a tire the still had a score or so of thorns still sticking 
> through it, which is about as much fun as it sounds.  A few times I have 
> gone out to the shed and found that a tire has gone flat overnight with all 
> the sealant having leaked out between tube and tire through some hole 
> making a big old mess.
>
> I have not tried a tubeless setup yet.  Maybe after my current tires wear 
> out, though I don't know that any of my current rims are 
> tubeless-compatible.  My suspicion is that at least some of the poor 
> sealing with tubes is due to the hole is the tube becoming misaligned with 
> the hole in the tire, preventing the sealant from spitting out nicely and 
> drying to form a plug.  Also, I find that some of the seals or plugs in the 
> tube can be pulled open upon removing the tube from the tire or even just 
> on fully deflating a tire so that the tube pulls away from the casing.  I 
> imagine a tubeless setup could fix both of those problems. 
>
> I have observed that most of the thorns I pull out of my tires, at least 
> away from the very center, are stuck in grooves/holes/corners of the tread 
> pattern as though the thorn tip was sliding away until grabbed by the shape 
> of the tread.  Thus I suspect that slick tires may fare better w.r.t. 
> thorns.
>
> In short, goatheads can be a real scourge around here if you like to 
> explore the low-lying (4500--5000 ft.) areas, but sealant in tubes can 
> largely solve the problem. In addition, I think that using full-sized tubes 
> (i.e., ones that need not stretch much to fill the tire) improves things 
> further by helping to keep the tube and tire holes aligned, and that slick 
> tread (e.g., as on your current tires) will help even more by avoiding some 
> punctures in the first place.
>
> Mark in Salt Lake City, Utah
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:03:52 AM UTC-7 Robert Hakim wrote:
>
>> I'll echo the others- I only find goatheads a real issue in the central 
>> and western parts of the valley, particularly along the Jordan River Trail 
>> corridor. Most of the cycling on Wasatch Blvd and up into the canyons you 
>> won't have much of an issue with 

Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for 44-46 mm 700c all rounder tires, must roll well on pavement?

[Patrick Moore]

David: Thanks for the measurement; that is narrow, tho' my rims are 35/27
instead of the (I think) 24/20 or so of the Dyads. Still, probably narrower
even on the wider rims, tho' if anyone can correct me, please do so.

I'll be interested to hear, about the Oracle Ridge, how wide it actually is
on your Quills (24.5/21, I see), *and* how well they roll on pavement
compared to the SPs.

Garth: This is why I want tires in the  more-or-less >42mm (but less than
50 mm, since I've tried 50s) range. 45 is what I'd like to try.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 3:26 PM David Person  wrote:

> I have a pair of Snoqualmie mounted on Velocity Dyad rims.  They measure
> out at 41mm wide.  I have the standard casing version.  I switched to these
> in the fall from a pair Barlow Pass ELs that I rode for 5 years before the
> tread on the rear started getting a bit thin.  To be honest, I can't tell a
> difference in riding quality between the standard and EL casing, so I'd say
> save your money and get the standard casing version.  I run them with tubes
> (Dyads are not tubeless compatible) and for extra protection against
> goatheads here in So.Cal. I use a set of Mr Tuffy's, which don't seem to
> affect the ride quality.
>
> I have a set of Oracle Ridge mounted on Velocity Quill rims that I built
> up for a new bike build but have not yet ridden them.  They measure 46mm
> wide.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:57:38 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The Matthews is a duck without a pond and I am trying to find new ponds
>> for it by swapping tires. Background: The Matthews was built expressly as a
>> bike set up as a road bike that can take 60s and fenders for our sand. Now
>> that I have the 3" WTB Rangers on the Monocog, the Matthews is out of a job.
>>
>> But perhaps some narrower tires would make the handling more, well, more
>> Rivendell like; perhaps worth the cost of a new pair.
>>
>> So, what do you recommend for 44-46 actual that are excellent on pavement
>> but that do well in light dirt?
>>
>> I guess the Snoqualmie Pass would be the benchmark, and I assume they
>> roll superlatively on pavement, so tell me you experience with these on
>> dirt. I'd buy the ELs.
>>
>> WTB Raddler or the apparently very similar Riddler? Resolute? Venture?
>> Has anyone used any of these and say how well they roll on pavement and
>> firmer dirt?
>>
>> Perhaps the RH Oracle Ridge rides well enough on pavement and runs a bit
>> small? Tell me your pavement experience with these.
>>
>> And tell me of other options.
>>
>> Or doers anyone want to trade for a quality ss 29er frameset that will
>> take 3.0"s with a bit of spare room? I ride a Medium in earlier Fargos and
>> Monocogs.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bike Snob Today!

[Patrick Moore]

He still has it. This is actually one of his better ones.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:09 AM Philip Barrett 
wrote:

> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>
>
> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob Today!

[Scott G.]

Bike Snob might be responding to this post on the Radavist.

Free Range Flannel and sustainably harvested whale grease not included.

https://theradavist.com/2021/03/excepts-from-chapter-two-of-the-field-guide-to-tanglefootism-a-look-at-tanglefoot-cycles-discord-components-and-fifth-season-canvas/

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:09:03 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>
>
> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob Today!

[Andrew Turner]

Holy cow, that's some acute consciousness of today's trends. (Look out 
Tanglefoot Cycles!) 
Also, what a lovely row boat! 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 4:58:32 PM UTC-6 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Very funny stuff, as usual.
> And, nice pics of his Homer, bedecked with Silver Shifters and Rivendell 
> bags. 
> Please, someone buy this man a stainless steel water bottle with a cork 
> stopper!
> David Lipsky -- Berkeley, CA
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:09:03 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>>
>>
>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for 44-46 mm 700c all rounder tires, must roll well on pavement?

[Garth]

My only comment is about running much smaller tires on bikes with larger 
tires in mind @ design stage. I've ridden 36-38mm tires on my Bombadil and 
didn't like how it handled at all, the steering. With the full bodied 
"Rosie" Schwalbe Big Ben 50's(47+mm) , it felt like a different bike. I 
can't say that'd be the case with your Mathews though as you're the one 
riding it. 
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:26:09 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:

> I have a pair of Snoqualmie mounted on Velocity Dyad rims.  They measure 
> out at 41mm wide.  I have the standard casing version.  I switched to these 
> in the fall from a pair Barlow Pass ELs that I rode for 5 years before the 
> tread on the rear started getting a bit thin.  To be honest, I can't tell a 
> difference in riding quality between the standard and EL casing, so I'd say 
> save your money and get the standard casing version.  I run them with tubes 
> (Dyads are not tubeless compatible) and for extra protection against 
> goatheads here in So.Cal. I use a set of Mr Tuffy's, which don't seem to 
> affect the ride quality.
>
> I have a set of Oracle Ridge mounted on Velocity Quill rims that I built 
> up for a new bike build but have not yet ridden them.  They measure 46mm 
> wide.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:57:38 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The Matthews is a duck without a pond and I am trying to find new ponds 
>> for it by swapping tires. Background: The Matthews was built expressly as a 
>> bike set up as a road bike that can take 60s and fenders for our sand. Now 
>> that I have the 3" WTB Rangers on the Monocog, the Matthews is out of a job.
>>
>> But perhaps some narrower tires would make the handling more, well, more 
>> Rivendell like; perhaps worth the cost of a new pair. 
>>
>> So, what do you recommend for 44-46 actual that are excellent on pavement 
>> but that do well in light dirt?
>>
>> I guess the Snoqualmie Pass would be the benchmark, and I assume they 
>> roll superlatively on pavement, so tell me you experience with these on 
>> dirt. I'd buy the ELs.
>>
>> WTB Raddler or the apparently very similar Riddler? Resolute? Venture? 
>> Has anyone used any of these and say how well they roll on pavement and 
>> firmer dirt?
>>
>> Perhaps the RH Oracle Ridge rides well enough on pavement and runs a bit 
>> small? Tell me your pavement experience with these.
>>
>> And tell me of other options.
>>
>> Or doers anyone want to trade for a quality ss 29er frameset that will 
>> take 3.0"s with a bit of spare room? I ride a Medium in earlier Fargos and 
>> Monocogs.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob Today!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very funny stuff, as usual.
And, nice pics of his Homer, bedecked with Silver Shifters and Rivendell 
bags. 
Please, someone buy this man a stainless steel water bottle with a cork 
stopper!
David Lipsky -- Berkeley, CA
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:09:03 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>
>
> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone shellacked cushioned Newbaum's?

[sam . perez . 2002]

I was just wondering that this morning, great question.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Brett Callahan  wrote:
> 
> If so, would you share a picture and/or your impressions? I'm curious as to 
> how A) it looks; and, B) how the cush underneath works with the hard tape on 
> top. 
> 
> I've double wrapped with unpadded Newbaum's and shellacked on the top layer 
> with good success. I'm wondering if this would work out similarly. 
> 
> Thanks!
> Brett in PDX
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for 44-46 mm 700c all rounder tires, must roll well on pavement?

[David Person]

I have a pair of Snoqualmie mounted on Velocity Dyad rims.  They measure 
out at 41mm wide.  I have the standard casing version.  I switched to these 
in the fall from a pair Barlow Pass ELs that I rode for 5 years before the 
tread on the rear started getting a bit thin.  To be honest, I can't tell a 
difference in riding quality between the standard and EL casing, so I'd say 
save your money and get the standard casing version.  I run them with tubes 
(Dyads are not tubeless compatible) and for extra protection against 
goatheads here in So.Cal. I use a set of Mr Tuffy's, which don't seem to 
affect the ride quality.

I have a set of Oracle Ridge mounted on Velocity Quill rims that I built up 
for a new bike build but have not yet ridden them.  They measure 46mm wide.



On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:57:38 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The Matthews is a duck without a pond and I am trying to find new ponds 
> for it by swapping tires. Background: The Matthews was built expressly as a 
> bike set up as a road bike that can take 60s and fenders for our sand. Now 
> that I have the 3" WTB Rangers on the Monocog, the Matthews is out of a job.
>
> But perhaps some narrower tires would make the handling more, well, more 
> Rivendell like; perhaps worth the cost of a new pair. 
>
> So, what do you recommend for 44-46 actual that are excellent on pavement 
> but that do well in light dirt?
>
> I guess the Snoqualmie Pass would be the benchmark, and I assume they roll 
> superlatively on pavement, so tell me you experience with these on dirt. 
> I'd buy the ELs.
>
> WTB Raddler or the apparently very similar Riddler? Resolute? Venture? Has 
> anyone used any of these and say how well they roll on pavement and firmer 
> dirt?
>
> Perhaps the RH Oracle Ridge rides well enough on pavement and runs a bit 
> small? Tell me your pavement experience with these.
>
> And tell me of other options.
>
> Or doers anyone want to trade for a quality ss 29er frameset that will 
> take 3.0"s with a bit of spare room? I ride a Medium in earlier Fargos and 
> Monocogs.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: Intro from Pittsburgh

[ascpgh]

Welcome Josh, from another orange Rivendell rider in Pittsburgh. I usually 
commute year round east end to CHP but have been off all winter following 
some non-bike related shoulder surgery. 

I'll contribute to finding some non-commuting rides this spring as I get 
back on the bike. It's bountiful and always possible to provide fun day or 
night around here!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 joshuamarx wrote:

> Hello!
> I've been spending time on this group for years, for inspiration and 
> information, and for general entertainment. It's high time I join the group 
> properly so I can contribute every once in a while.
>
> I'm a proud owner of a 60cm 1st gen (I think) Cheviot, and a 59 cm MIT 
> Atlantis--one of the demo completes that Riv sold a while back. Links to 
> pictures are below (crossing my fingers that they come through properly). 
>
> Pre-COVID, 99% of my riding was commuting (downtown Pittsburgh) and errand 
> running. The non-commuting of COVID has really cut into my bike time--I may 
> need to figure out how to work recreational rides into my life this spring!
> Best,
> Josh
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N8pdNanpBNGSY7fOQjHTdaXfIaXPgwP7/view?usp=sharing
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eghSVYdTjSB2zc3nzY9X8cz8dgQvIbLl/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Recommendations for 44-46 mm 700c all rounder tires, must roll well on pavement?

[Patrick Moore]

The Matthews is a duck without a pond and I am trying to find new ponds for
it by swapping tires. Background: The Matthews was built expressly as a
bike set up as a road bike that can take 60s and fenders for our sand. Now
that I have the 3" WTB Rangers on the Monocog, the Matthews is out of a job.

But perhaps some narrower tires would make the handling more, well, more
Rivendell like; perhaps worth the cost of a new pair.

So, what do you recommend for 44-46 actual that are excellent on pavement
but that do well in light dirt?

I guess the Snoqualmie Pass would be the benchmark, and I assume they roll
superlatively on pavement, so tell me you experience with these on dirt.
I'd buy the ELs.

WTB Raddler or the apparently very similar Riddler? Resolute? Venture? Has
anyone used any of these and say how well they roll on pavement and firmer
dirt?

Perhaps the RH Oracle Ridge rides well enough on pavement and runs a bit
small? Tell me your pavement experience with these.

And tell me of other options.

Or doers anyone want to trade for a quality ss 29er frameset that will take
3.0"s with a bit of spare room? I ride a Medium in earlier Fargos and
Monocogs.

Thanks.



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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob Today!

[Tom Wyland]

Mudbunion!  List all possible anagrams, go!

>
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[RBW] Re: In search of brass ferrules

[Garth]

I believe those shops are part of a common online template and or network, 
whatever that may be. I found some of Selle Royal saddles the same way and 
from a shop with that same looking template. Seemingly every retailer was 
sold out and I looked long and deep, but then I got "creative" in my 
searches and like PFM, this shop appeared and they were in stock. It's the 
shops that have the actual parts though, they don't send out to a 
centralized warehouse like some may do. It's a way for once "local only" 
shops to serve customers on a broader scale. The shop I bought the saddles 
from did a superb packing job, and yes I'm aware of what Riv does. I 
emailed the shop and thanked them, that it reminded me of what people who 
care about such things can do and it's appreciated. They responded that 
they were just getting into shipping items, so good for them. 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 2:16:41 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bill – I'd like a bottle of 50 to have them on hand for the future :) I do 
> appreciate the idea of getting some from other board members. 
>
> Garth's got the hook up! Thanks, Garth. Had the hardest time even after 
> finding listings with a dozen small bike shops all over the US. 
>
> Side note: Can anyone tell me why so many bike shops have almost the 
> *exact* same website? Same template, check-out, listing format, etc. 
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 1:39:59 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Here's a couple :
>>
>>
>> https://www.spoke-n-sport.com/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm
>>
>>
>> https://www.thebikehub.net/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:15:31 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> How many do you need?  4? 6? 10? 100? Maybe those of us who have bought 
>>> a few sets over the years can collect a few each and get you what it is you 
>>> require.  
>>>
>>> Wheels Manufacturing lists them as a product they sell, but you have be 
>>> a dealer (and they are also out of stock).  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:28:54 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the tip, Neal 

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 neal...@gmail.com wrote:

> Analog has them listed, but they're out of stock. You might try 
> contacting the owner, James and see what their restock timeline is. He 
> posts on here or the iBob group sometimes.
> https://analogcycles.com/product/brass-ferrules/
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I 
>> have a bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone 
>> stocking 
>> the 4mm. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: In search of brass ferrules

[Eric Marth]

Bill – I'd like a bottle of 50 to have them on hand for the future :) I do 
appreciate the idea of getting some from other board members. 

Garth's got the hook up! Thanks, Garth. Had the hardest time even after 
finding listings with a dozen small bike shops all over the US. 

Side note: Can anyone tell me why so many bike shops have almost the *exact* 
same 
website? Same template, check-out, listing format, etc. 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 1:39:59 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Here's a couple :
>
>
> https://www.spoke-n-sport.com/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm
>
>
> https://www.thebikehub.net/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:15:31 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> How many do you need?  4? 6? 10? 100? Maybe those of us who have bought a 
>> few sets over the years can collect a few each and get you what it is you 
>> require.  
>>
>> Wheels Manufacturing lists them as a product they sell, but you have be a 
>> dealer (and they are also out of stock).  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:28:54 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip, Neal 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 neal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Analog has them listed, but they're out of stock. You might try 
 contacting the owner, James and see what their restock timeline is. He 
 posts on here or the iBob group sometimes.
 https://analogcycles.com/product/brass-ferrules/

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I 
> have a bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone stocking 
> the 4mm. 
>
> Thanks! 
>


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[RBW] Re: In search of brass ferrules

[Garth]

Here's a couple :

https://www.spoke-n-sport.com/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm

https://www.thebikehub.net/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:15:31 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> How many do you need?  4? 6? 10? 100? Maybe those of us who have bought a 
> few sets over the years can collect a few each and get you what it is you 
> require.  
>
> Wheels Manufacturing lists them as a product they sell, but you have be a 
> dealer (and they are also out of stock).  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:28:54 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip, Neal 
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 neal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Analog has them listed, but they're out of stock. You might try 
>>> contacting the owner, James and see what their restock timeline is. He 
>>> posts on here or the iBob group sometimes.
>>> https://analogcycles.com/product/brass-ferrules/
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I 
 have a bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone stocking 
 the 4mm. 

 Thanks! 

>>>

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[RBW] Has anyone shellacked cushioned Newbaum's?

[Brett Callahan]

If so, would you share a picture and/or your impressions? I'm curious as to 
how A) it looks; and, B) how the cush underneath works with the hard tape 
on top. 

I've double wrapped with unpadded Newbaum's and shellacked on the top layer 
with good success. I'm wondering if this would work out similarly. 

Thanks!
Brett in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Surly Cross Check 54 - upgraded to Hunqapillar so selling! Chris King Headset and SImWorks Stem $500

[Jeffrey S]

Sold, thanks!

On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 4:04:06 PM UTC-8 Jeffrey S wrote:

> Thanks for letting me know! Just updated it here 
> 
> .
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:34 PM David Person  wrote:
>
>> Craigslist linked has expired. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 3:48:00 PM UTC-8 Jeffrey S wrote:
>>
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> Thanks! I’d say for something small like that, it’d be pretty easy. You 
>>> can thin it slightly with mineral spirits, or just use it out of the can. 
>>> It is oil based so you need to use a small brush made for that and clean it 
>>> with mineral spirits right after, otherwise the brush will be ruined. 
>>>
>>> You could also use Testors model paint since it is so small and they 
>>> come in little containers. The one shot is around $10 per 1/4 pint. Not 
>>> sure about the Testors. 
>>>
>>> If you are in Portland, they stock all of the one shot colors at Pacific 
>>> Coast Sign Supply on SE 7th near Belmont. 
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> Jeffrey
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:47 AM André P  wrote:
>>>
 Very nice looking paint job, love the hand painted logos. To take this 
 slightly OT, how is it working with those enamels? Is it something a 
 neophyte can handle? What I am looking to do is to paint some raised 
 lettering on some lug castings. Pretty small lettering maybe 1/2 cm high. 
 I 
 did some googling and found people in some car forums talking about using 
 one shot paints as well.

 On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 1:22:16 PM UTC-8 Jeffrey S wrote:

>
> I was finally able to upgrade to my dream, and first, Rivendell, a 
> Hunqapillar, so I am selling my Surly Cross Check frameset! $500
>
> 54 cm Cross Check - 2015-2016
> Chris King 1" threadless headset
> SimWorks Dirty Rhonda stem
> Shimano Bottom bracket that fit my vintage Sugino AT triple crankset
>
> I also have from it:
> Shimano Deore 10 speed deraileur - $20
> Shimano 10 speed cassette - $10
> Shimano bottom Bracket for a double - $10
>
> I am a sign painter and painted the frame a custom pink with hand 
> lettered surly lettering. The paint job isn't the toughest, but looks 
> cool! 
> I have the extra paint I mixed I can give you for touch ups. 
>
> I am located in Portland, OR for local pick up but can ship too, which 
> would be an extra $70 or so. That is what it cost to get my new frame 
> here.
>
> Here is the Craigslist link 
> 
>  
> for photos.
>
> Thanks!
> Jeffrey
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Joe Shoemaker Music]

Right on, well let me know what you might let the
frame/fork/headset/bb/wheels go for. I understand that’s more inconvenient
than selling the whole bike, but that’s where my interest is. If you’re not
into it, no worries at all. It’s a beautiful build, just not all of what
I’m looking for

Joe

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> Bill is right.  The bike looks like it was recently built up before I
> bought it so it is great shape but I could be convinced to part it out.  It
> really just depends on price.  I don't want to spend a lot of time selling
> individual parts.  The build is very Rivendell, and in great shape.
>
> Bill,
>
> I might sell the front rack. I'll email you if I do. I just need to see
> the other rack options I have for a bike.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:14 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. I’m
>> leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we can
>> discuss price if so.
>>
>> Joe
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the
>>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee
>>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will
>>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and
>>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that
>>> offer.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got
>>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that
>>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day
>>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I
>>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.
>>>
>>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be
 interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially
 wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m
 interested if you consider that route.

 Joe

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:

> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Bump.
>>
>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I
>> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jonathan,
 What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local
 pickup is possible?

 Thanks,
 Sean
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't
> find the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I 
> think it
> is similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want 
> to say
> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
> 45 for
> the Toyo.
>
> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I
> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
> I
> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it,
> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting.
>
> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano
> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
> look,
> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
> Sugino
> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 
> mm
> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
> Hubs.
> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
> top
> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>
> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to
> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
> price.  I
> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  
> I have
> enough parts.
>
> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

Bill is right.  The bike looks like it was recently built up before I 
bought it so it is great shape but I could be convinced to part it out.  It 
really just depends on price.  I don't want to spend a lot of time selling 
individual parts.  The build is very Rivendell, and in great shape.  

Bill,

I might sell the front rack. I'll email you if I do. I just need to see the 
other rack options I have for a bike.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:44:14 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. I’m 
> leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we can 
> discuss price if so. 
>
> Joe
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>> offer.  
>>
>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>
>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Bump.
>
> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>> pickup is possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
 the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
 is 
 similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
 say 
 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
 45 for 
 the Toyo.

 Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
 traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
 I 
 bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
 mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 

 It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
 (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
 look, 
 Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
 Sugino 
 Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 
 mm 
 tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
 Hubs. 
 Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
 top 
 tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  

 https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/

 I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
 price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
 price.  I 
 don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
 have 
 enough parts.

 I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might 
 try selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 


 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple 
> of questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? 
> (range 
> & how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? 

[RBW] Bike Snob Today!

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As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.

https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Joe Shoemaker Music]

Thanks Bill, but I’m interested in what I stated I was interested in. I’m 
leaving it up to OP to let me know if they’d even consider it, then we can 
discuss price if so. 

Joe
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:53:49 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
> offer.  
>
> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>
> I could use the 32F front rack...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Bump.

 I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
 flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>
>> Hey Jonathan,
>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>> pickup is possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>>> is 
>>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
>>> say 
>>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
>>> for 
>>> the Toyo.
>>>
>>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I 
>>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>>
>>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>>> look, 
>>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>>> Sugino 
>>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
>>> Hubs. 
>>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
>>> top 
>>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>>
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>>
>>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
>>> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
>>> price.  I 
>>> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
>>> have 
>>> enough parts.
>>>
>>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
 questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? 
 (range & 
 how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
 has 
 evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
 may 
 be helpful.  

 Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
 ridden.  

 dougP

 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one. 
>  This is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  
> This is 
> a MUSA Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Bill Lindsay]

May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
$100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
offer.  

Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  

I could use the 32F front rack...

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
> interested if you consider that route. 
>
> Joe
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> Bump.
>>>
>>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
>>> flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
> pickup is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
>> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
>> is 
>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
>> for 
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
>> traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I 
>> bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
>> mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
>> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
>> look, 
>> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
>> Sugino 
>> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
>> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
>> Hubs. 
>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
>> top 
>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>
>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
>> price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price. 
>>  I 
>> don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
>> have 
>> enough parts.
>>
>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range 
>>> & 
>>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
>>> has 
>>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
>>> may 
>>> be helpful.  
>>>
>>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
>>> ridden.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one. 
  This is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  
 This is 
 a MUSA Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might 
 be a 
 little small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
 including.  

 These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a 
 rush to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 
 plus 
 shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to 
 

[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Joe Shoemaker Music]

I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
interested if you consider that route. 

Joe

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:

> BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Bump.
>>
>> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I am 
>> flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>>
 Hey Jonathan,
 What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
 pickup is possible?

 Thanks,
 Sean
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
> the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 
> for 
> the Toyo.
>
> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>
> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
> (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
> look, 
> Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
> Sugino 
> Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm 
> tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
> Hubs. 
> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>
> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I 
> don't 
> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
> enough parts.
>
> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range 
>> & 
>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis 
>> has 
>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length 
>> may 
>> be helpful.  
>>
>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be 
>> ridden.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This 
>>> is a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a 
>>> MUSA 
>>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a 
>>> little 
>>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider 
>>> including.  
>>>
>>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a 
>>> rush to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 
>>> plus 
>>> shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: In search of brass ferrules

[Bill Lindsay]

How many do you need?  4? 6? 10? 100? Maybe those of us who have bought a 
few sets over the years can collect a few each and get you what it is you 
require.  

Wheels Manufacturing lists them as a product they sell, but you have be a 
dealer (and they are also out of stock).  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:28:54 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the tip, Neal 
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 neal...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Analog has them listed, but they're out of stock. You might try 
>> contacting the owner, James and see what their restock timeline is. He 
>> posts on here or the iBob group sometimes.
>> https://analogcycles.com/product/brass-ferrules/
>>
>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I have 
>>> a bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone stocking the 
>>> 4mm. 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

Leah,
I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm too 
bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
Doug

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike and I 
> are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>
> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new Platys 
> for us to admire!
>
> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>>
>> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>>
>> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front derailer is 
>> on there? Thank you!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>>
>>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness Protection 
>>> Program now.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and bags is - 
 and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the kids would say, 
 it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the parts/paint 
 picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro shop that put it all 
 together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 

 Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" Bernard

 On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> (This message should have preceded my photos, but it was too large and 
> was not sent. Since the file is too large, you can see it on Instagram or 
> the Facebook groups if you like.)
>
> Well, while we wait for the ship to be unloaded (MONDAY! 拾), I made a 
> video of my Platy because...IT’S FINALLY COMPLETE. I was waiting on a 
> bunch 
> of rose anodized parts and a Randi Jo bag in custom colors and all of 
> those 
> things arrived on Thursday and I whisked the whole getup to the bike shop 
> for assembly. Here’s a video that may not show up. So after that, I’ll 
> send 
> pics.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> 
>
> "For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to Rivendell 
> and the Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried to sell me a 
> fat-tired folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff."
>
> The way this would work in real like (cuz I'm the ebike liker around 
> here) is I would be in the parking lot selling that e-folder out of my 
> trunk and Grant would be chasing me off the premises 藍
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:15:03 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> Mike M:  Just turn on closed captions for English-ish translation. 
>>
>> For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to Rivendell 
>> and the Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried to sell me 
>> a 
>> fat-tired folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 12:23:18 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>
>>> Bluelug just posted a Platypus build video.
>>> I wish I understood Japanese!
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga8o1WKWgXs=537s
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
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[RBW] Re: In search of brass ferrules

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the tip, Neal 

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 neal...@gmail.com wrote:

> Analog has them listed, but they're out of stock. You might try contacting 
> the owner, James and see what their restock timeline is. He posts on here 
> or the iBob group sometimes.
> https://analogcycles.com/product/brass-ferrules/
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I have 
>> a bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone stocking the 
>> 4mm. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Nick Payne]

Yes, although I have a decent workstand, for cleaning chains etc I more 
often just hang bikes between a pair of ropes which attach to eyebolts on 
the opposite walls.

Nick

On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 8:12:26 am UTC+11 Justin Drake wrote:

> Wow - Lots of room, Nick. Is the black road bike in the back strung up 
> with rope?

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