[RBW] Re: Moving shift levers from downtube to stem

2021-03-11 Thread Wayne Naha

Thanks for all your input folks.  @KenP, I have a pair of vintage friction 
bolt of shifters, and the clamp that held them on the downtube.  But the 
clamp diameter is a lot bigger than my stem.  Maybe I can find a clamp 
meant for the stem?  I appreciate what you say about the IRD mount's 
fragility.  @Joe Bernard, I think picking up a cheap pair of levers might 
be what I end up doing
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:33:04 PM UTC-5 KenP wrote:

> three suggestions
> *pick up a vintage set of bolt-on friction shifters (see picture, works 
> great)
> *Use your IRD bracket and get some Shimano indexed bar-end shifters
> N.B.: the IRD bracket is light and fragile, so be gentile when shifting 
> (don't ask how I know)
> *There's a guy I corresponded with through Ebay who will fashion you a 
> stem mount that will match your needs.
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:35:14 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> I think a Shimano bar end shifter spacer (Rivendell sells them) and a 
>> little work with a Dremel tool or file may work for aligning the shifter 
>> with the hole. 
>> Not sure what the inner diameter of your shifter looks like - not sure if 
>> the internally threaded part needs to be longer or not, or if you can use a 
>> longer machine screw/bolt from the other end.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:59:00 PM UTC-5 Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Bell-ringers!
>>> I have a beloved old Raleigh Gran Sport that is effectively a single 
>>> speed due to the shift levers being mounted on the downtube.  That was fun 
>>> many years ago, but I don't go there anymore.  The last time I tried was 
>>> very nearly a disaster.
>>> So I am in the middle of moving them to the stem.  I bought Riv's IRD 
>>> Quill Stem Mount 
>>> ,
>>>  
>>> and their downtube cable stops 
>>> 
>>>  to 
>>> accomplish this.  Now I have run into a technical problem that I don't know 
>>> can be solved.[image: 20210310_212520.jpg]
>>> If you look at the picture, hopefully you can see the problem.  The 
>>> cable guide on the stem mount does not align with where the cable will ride 
>>> on the shifter.  This shifter is the Suntour Power shifter, with the 
>>> internal ratchet, what I believe the new Silver 2 shifters 
>>> 
>>>  are 
>>> modeled after.
>>> Has anyone ever dealt with this before?  Would the actual Silver 2 
>>> shifters work?
>>> Also, this bit seems too short:[image: 20210310_214834.jpg]
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

2021-03-11 Thread Jingy
Bleriot frameset
57cm
$400
Minneapolis MN
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/d/amherst-rivendell-bleriot-frame-57-cm/7289878456.html
On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 7:47:58 PM UTC-6 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith Jr.
> 45cm
> $1000
> Waterford, ME
>
> https://maine.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-waterford-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7280189187.html
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr.
> 52cm
> $1250
> Seattle, WA
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-52cm-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7281407780.html
>
>
> Betty Foy
> 54cm
> $1000
> Berkeley, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-custom-rivendell-betty-foy/7280374983.html
>
>

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[RBW] riv water bottles

2021-03-11 Thread Jingy
Any idea when the last time was that Riv sold water bottles? 
I would like some, but haven't seen any on the site in a couple of years.
Is it because of Grant's "you don't need water on most rides" stance?

Jim in Mpls

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Mini Front Rack and small-ish Wald basket

2021-03-11 Thread Philip Barrett
I'll take those please.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:16:02 AM UTC-8 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:

> Hello again, all,
>
> Selling my Nitto Mini Front Rack and the small-ish Wald basket (about 10" 
> x 15" x 5" deep).  I bought these years ago when I bought my Sam Hillborne, 
> but took them off pretty early on and replaced them with a rear rack. These 
> are basically un-used. (And, if they have been used, there are no signs of 
> it!)
>
> Prefer to keep them together (presumably it's not worth it to sell and 
> ship the basket...) $110 for either just the rack or for both, shipped 
> within the continental US?
>
> Liz S.
> Washington, DC
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-mini-front-rack-32f-20020
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/wald-wire-basket
>

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[RBW] Re: NBD (New Bike Delayed)

2021-03-11 Thread Philip Barrett
UPS & Fedex are dealing with significant system wide delays right now, it's 
affecting us at work & my Bikeflights shipment of last week was delayed 3 
days too. Fedex have gone from being the carrier of record to 2nd choice at 
best.

It also showed up with heavy damage to the packaging, fortunately I bought 
the insurance so when I finally get back to the house I'll see what 
survived & what didn't. Bikeflights responded to my initial email within 10 
minutes with a real human being no less so I'm hopeful for a good outcome 
either way.



On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:08:40 PM UTC-8 Ian A wrote:

> Probably a fender-bender involving the UPS truck, possibly tagging another 
> vehicle. In all likelyhood, the cargo is undamaged and will be loaded onto 
> another truck once they free up a spare vehicle.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada (previously four years in the freight industry).
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 2:11:05 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
> PA wrote:
>
>> Awaiting a frame from the Left Coast, due for delivery tomorrow, and 
>> checked progress just now. Not what you want to see:
>>
>> [image: weqwewer.jpg]
>> UPS is the carrier, shipped via Bikeflights. Fingers crossed.
>>
>> Marty "holding my breath" in PA
>>
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Re: [RBW] ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

2021-03-11 Thread Brendan Willard
Yes, you are the trade!

I think that that would be too early for us to get out there unfortunately. Our 
plans to be out that way or for the early afternoon. Would closer to noon or 
the evening possibly work?

>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com 

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 1:37 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brendan:
> 
> Assuming I’m the trade, would you like to meet in Benicia Saturday around 9 
> am?
> 
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks everyone.  I have a local trade, and purchase as options.  
>> 
>> That Velomine deal is a good one!
>> 
>> Brendan in SF
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:44:16 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>> I have the takeoffs from my 2016 Joe Appaloosa from when I decided to go 
>>> tubeless.   They are 135 spacing.  36 hole. From what Joe Bernard tells me, 
>>> they are like these but available:   
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/velocity-made-shimano-alex-wheelset-650b-x-32h-135
>>>.  PM me and I can send you the pics I took (they are still on my 
>>> phone).$200+shipping.  And, of course, I'm on the east coast.
>>> 
>>> About 2700 non hard braking miles (I am not a rough rider no go down many 
>>> hills).   Rims are in great shape.  Every other spoke nipple is a different 
>>> color--blue, green, purple.
>>> 
>>> David, you SHOULD get a Platy.
>>> 
>>> Roberta
>>> 
 On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:03:50 PM UTC-5 Brendan Willard in SF 
 wrote:
 In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
 all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
 when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
 wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
 
 Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
 
 Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
 another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
>> 
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[RBW] Re: NBD (New Bike Delayed)

2021-03-11 Thread Ian A
Probably a fender-bender involving the UPS truck, possibly tagging another 
vehicle. In all likelyhood, the cargo is undamaged and will be loaded onto 
another truck once they free up a spare vehicle.

IanA Alberta Canada (previously four years in the freight industry).

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 2:11:05 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> Awaiting a frame from the Left Coast, due for delivery tomorrow, and 
> checked progress just now. Not what you want to see:
>
> [image: weqwewer.jpg]
> UPS is the carrier, shipped via Bikeflights. Fingers crossed.
>
> Marty "holding my breath" in PA
>

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Re: [RBW] NBD (New Bike Delayed)

2021-03-11 Thread Paul Brodek
Oooof, yeah, best wishes for a uneventful outcome.

I had probably the minty-est complete vintage bike I'd ever bought run into 
dark clouds shipped via FedEx from Birmingham, AL to Jersey. Package got 
late, tracking showed the box going back and forth between AL and the FedEx 
Memphis hub 3 times. 3 times. As if there clearly was a serious problem, 
and neither the origin nor the hub wanted to take responsibility. It 
finally arrived in new packaging, two large square boxes piled on top of 
each other and taped together to form a vertical box, the right size/shape 
for a refriderator, The bike was stuffed inside, sitting wheelie-style on 
the back wheel, fork at about my eyelevel, with the front wheel and some 
other parts basically just tossed inside, loose and rattling around.

The bad news was the horror show that greeted me when I opened the box. The 
good news was although it no longer looked unused/unridden, the frame only 
picked up a couple/few small marks, and only the rims needed replacing. It 
could have been considerably worse. Fork got pretty tweaked, but Peter 
Weigle straightened that out. Seller's discount for all the damage/trouble 
covered all the work.

So FedEx trashes stuff, too, and for Marty, things can look/sound pretty 
ugly but still turn out OK. Keep yer fingers crossed, keep yer eyes on yer 
lucky stars. While I try to steal yer Lucky Charms! Sorry, St. Patty's 
day's just around the corner.

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:33:01 PM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:

> Hoping for a good outcome for you.  
> Being the recipient of that notice would be a nightmare scenario.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Curtis
> El Cajon CA
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 1:11 PM Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Awaiting a frame from the Left Coast, due for delivery tomorrow, and 
>> checked progress just now. Not what you want to see:
>>
>> [image: weqwewer.jpg]
>> UPS is the carrier, shipped via Bikeflights. Fingers crossed.
>>
>> Marty "holding my breath" in PA
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Re: [RBW] ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

2021-03-11 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Brendan:

Assuming I’m the trade, would you like to meet in Benicia Saturday around 9 am?

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone.  I have a local trade, and purchase as options.  
> 
> That Velomine deal is a good one!
> 
> Brendan in SF
> 
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:44:16 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
> I have the takeoffs from my 2016 Joe Appaloosa from when I decided to go 
> tubeless.   They are 135 spacing.  36 hole. From what Joe Bernard tells me, 
> they are like these but available:   
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/velocity-made-shimano-alex-wheelset-650b-x-32h-135
>  
> 
>.  PM me and I can send you the pics I took (they are still on my phone).  
>   $200+shipping.  And, of course, I'm on the east coast.
> 
> About 2700 non hard braking miles (I am not a rough rider no go down many 
> hills).   Rims are in great shape.  Every other spoke nipple is a different 
> color--blue, green, purple.
> 
> David, you SHOULD get a Platy.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:03:50 PM UTC-5 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you all 
> to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset when 
> moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c wheelsets 
> (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
> 
> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
> 
> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for another, 
> and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Ahearne Map bar

2021-03-11 Thread Robert Blunt
Thanks Ray!

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 12:24 PM Ray  wrote:

> Not sure if they're still available, but Dave Redmon had one for sale in
> this thread: https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/KD2foTiFhH4
>
> I recently got some from Ben's for my XO-2. I'm really happy with them.
>
> -Ray
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:21:28 PM UTC-6 Robert Blunt wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> Just built up my 54 blue sam with albatross bars with 110 mm stem. I am
>> thinking I would be in the ideal position woth the map bars. Anyone got any?
>> Best,
>> Robert Blunt
>> Pennington, NJ
>>
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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

2021-03-11 Thread Brendan Willard in SF
Thanks everyone.  I have a local trade, and purchase as options.  

That Velomine deal is a good one!

Brendan in SF

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:44:16 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> I have the takeoffs from my 2016 Joe Appaloosa from when I decided to go 
> tubeless.   They are 135 spacing.  36 hole. From what Joe Bernard tells me, 
> they are like these but available:   
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/velocity-made-shimano-alex-wheelset-650b-x-32h-135
>
> .  PM me and I can send you the pics I took (they are still on my 
> phone).$200+shipping.  And, of course, I'm on the east coast.
>
> About 2700 non hard braking miles (I am not a rough rider no go down many 
> hills).   Rims are in great shape.  Every other spoke nipple is a different 
> color--blue, green, purple.
>
> David, you SHOULD get a Platy.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:03:50 PM UTC-5 Brendan Willard in SF 
> wrote:
>
>> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you 
>> all to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset 
>> when moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c 
>> wheelsets (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
>>
>> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
>>
>> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for 
>> another, and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Ahearne Map bar

2021-03-11 Thread Ray
Not sure if they're still available, but Dave Redmon had one for sale in 
this thread: https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/KD2foTiFhH4

I recently got some from Ben's for my XO-2. I'm really happy with them.

-Ray

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 7:21:28 PM UTC-6 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> Just built up my 54 blue sam with albatross bars with 110 mm stem. I am 
> thinking I would be in the ideal position woth the map bars. Anyone got any?
> Best,
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

2021-03-11 Thread Jonathan D.
I added some more photos and details of the bike.  There are some small 
scratches that I tried to capture.  I would say the bike looks in very good 
shape but it isn't pristine.  Has the type of scratches, dirt you would 
expect from a very well maintained bike used mostly on roads. 

The picture of the saddle height is at 72 in one pic, at the request of 
someone on the list.  I forgot to measure standover but I would expect 
81-82 cm.  I'll drop the asking price to $2000.  If I don't get anyone that 
is interesting in a couple of weeks I'll think about selling a partial 
build.

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Adding my 2 cents to Bill's, offers - whether complete or any other 
> version - should be addressed privately to the seller. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:53:49 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that if somebody wants the frameset and (potentially) the 
>> wheelset, that you state the price you are offering to pay.  I'll guarantee 
>> that if you offer $2100 for the frameset and wheelset that Jonathan will 
>> accept your offer  :)   Similarly if you offer $500 for the frameset and 
>> $100 for the wheelset, I'm pretty sure that Jonathan wouldn't take that 
>> offer.  
>>
>> Alternatively, buy the complete and part it out yourself!  If you've got 
>> some spare time to do some deals you can grind down the price of that 
>> frameset to a really low number.  I've bought some completes in my day 
>> where I end up with the frameset I want for free because of the prices I 
>> got for the parts.  It takes time and determination to get that done.  
>>
>> I could use the 32F front rack...
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:50:38 AM UTC-8 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know you said you’re not interested in parting it out, but I would be 
>>> interested in a partial build. I.e frame/fork/headset and potentially 
>>> wheelset. All groovy if you’re not wanting to do that, but just know I’m 
>>> interested if you consider that route. 
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 5:52:32 PM UTC-6 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 BUMP with price drop.  $2100 plus shipping.  I'll pay to have it boxed.

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 9:23:47 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Bump.
>
> I am happy to ship. Please let me know if you have any questions.  I 
> am flexible on price as well if. you want to discuss options.
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jonathan,
>>> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local 
>>> pickup is possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find 
 the MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it 
 is 
 similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to 
 say 
 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 
 45 for 
 the Toyo.

 Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I 
 traded for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and 
 I 
 bought from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, 
 mostly because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 

 It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano 
 (can't tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can 
 look, 
 Brooks C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, 
 Sugino 
 Crank triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 
 mm 
 tires. The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity 
 Hubs. 
 Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the 
 top 
 tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  

 https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/

 I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to 
 price.  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and 
 price.  I 
 don't want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I 
 have 
 enough parts.

 I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might 
 try selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 


 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple 
> of questions come to mind that potential 

[RBW] FS: Enough stuff for a very respectable build

2021-03-11 Thread Conway Bennett
I was updating my Quikbeam and went to the parts bin and I have too many 
parts, not enough bikes, and even less time.

*White Industries 18t, 16t ENO Freewheels *$100 for both

http://www.whiteind.com/new-page

*Tektro FL540 Flat Bar Levers* $35

http://www.tektro.com/mobile/products.php?p=75

*Tektro RL720 Cross Levers* $15

https://www.modernbike.com/product-2126288484?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnKeCBhDPARIsAFDTLTLdtnqEH71Xm6qLy0kNiV2A84_2JNscSEAJ6Nio0TGQz2rx_azFLdwaAh7lEALw_wcB

*Tektro RX6 Mini V brakeset $25*

http://www.tektro.com/mobile/products.php?p=49

*Suntour XC cantilever brakeset - XC front, XC SE rear, plus additional SE 
XC rear for parts* $60

*Serfas Woven Handlebar Tape coral, teal, beige, pink Aztec* NEW $21

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076VWVR2R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_6spddTngWx99v

*Fizik Bar Gel *NEW $16

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N0YQ34?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

*Shimano Ultegra RD-6700A-GS 10-Speed Rear Derailleur (Gray) (Medium Cage)* 
$75

https://www.nashbar.com/shimano-ultegra-rd6700ags-10speed-rear-derailleur-gray-medium-cage-ird6700agsg/p319562

*Shimano Deore M591 9-Speed Rear Derailleur* $35

https://www.rei.com/product/798943/shimano-deore-m591-9-speed-rear-derailleur

*Shimano FD-M781-A* $20

https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/deorext-m780/FD-M781-A-B.html

*Zefal HPX-4* $20 pick up only

https://www.rivbike.com/products/zefal-hpx-frame-pump-black?variant=23336741633

*Pictures:*

https://photos.app.goo.gl/K8QoSawB2o3rri2f9

All prices are net-to-me and exclusive of shipping.  Add $12.50 West of the 
Mississippi and $7.50 East for shipping and handling.  

Thanks!


Fair winds,

Captain Conway 

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[RBW] Re: Moving shift levers from downtube to stem

2021-03-11 Thread lconley
I think a Shimano bar end shifter spacer (Rivendell sells them) and a 
little work with a Dremel tool or file may work for aligning the shifter 
with the hole. 
Not sure what the inner diameter of your shifter looks like - not sure if 
the internally threaded part needs to be longer or not, or if you can use a 
longer machine screw/bolt from the other end.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:59:00 PM UTC-5 Wayne Naha wrote:

> Howdy Bell-ringers!
> I have a beloved old Raleigh Gran Sport that is effectively a single speed 
> due to the shift levers being mounted on the downtube.  That was fun many 
> years ago, but I don't go there anymore.  The last time I tried was very 
> nearly a disaster.
> So I am in the middle of moving them to the stem.  I bought Riv's IRD 
> Quill Stem Mount 
> ,
>  
> and their downtube cable stops 
>  
> to 
> accomplish this.  Now I have run into a technical problem that I don't know 
> can be solved.[image: 20210310_212520.jpg]
> If you look at the picture, hopefully you can see the problem.  The cable 
> guide on the stem mount does not align with where the cable will ride on 
> the shifter.  This shifter is the Suntour Power shifter, with the internal 
> ratchet, what I believe the new Silver 2 shifters 
> 
>  are 
> modeled after.
> Has anyone ever dealt with this before?  Would the actual Silver 2 
> shifters work?
> Also, this bit seems too short:[image: 20210310_214834.jpg]
>
>

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