[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Joe Bernard]

9000 miles in one year. I don't drive my car that far! 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:11:15 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Jeffrey Arita]

Pam,

Only one word comes to my mind after reading this: R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Carry on!

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:11:15 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Need Platypus tire advice

[JAS]

Kate,
Good for you for getting a decision made on tires.  I loved your comment 
about getting lost in the internet...I, too, have been down the rabbit hole 
of the internet studying various components and accessories.  It's amazing 
how the time flies by and even with advice from the others on this forum, I 
still am trying to decide about tires.  It goes like this.38 or 42?  
Better flat protection or lighter tire?  What casing?  What brand?  What's 
available at this time of limited supply?  Can I get what I want or do I 
need to settle for something less?  Yikes.

For what its worth, I have Boscos on my Clem and love them so my Platypus 
will have Boscos also.  That was easy.   The tough decision is the length 
of the stem.

Good luck with your handlebar search.

RivSisters,
Joyce


On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 5:47:03 PM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> After talking with Vince at RivBike.  I decided to go with the Switchback 
> Hills 48 also.  No fenders.
> That was the easy decision.  I just can't figure out what handlebars to go 
> with!
> Choco? Tosco? flat with sweep?  Lost in the internet for hours!!!
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:57:39 AM UTC-4 willms...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, I have Snoqualmie Passes on my Hillborne with the 
>> Simworks 58 Hammered fenders and they work great.  I just got a Platypus 
>> for my wife and she has Switchback Hills and our plan is to have our LBS 
>> install the Simworks 62 smooth fenders on her bike.  
>>
>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 8:38:24 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> "Some of them are clearly wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse 
>>> Snoqualmie Pass tires possibly weigh less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass" ... 
>>> apparently Jan answered this in the comments to a blog post at Rene 
>>> Herse 
>>> 
>>> : 
>>> "Compass tires are largely made by hand. The rubber coating of the 
>>> casing, but also the tread thickness, vary a bit from one production run to 
>>> the next. *The last batch of Barlow Pass tires turned out a tad heavy 
>>> (which means they set up very easily tubeless), while recent Snoqualmies 
>>> have been at the light end of the spectrum.* They all ride great, and 
>>> you’ll be hard-pressed to notice the difference on the road." 
>>>
>>> I have Continental Speed Contact (or as riv called them, Basketball 
>>> tires) in 700x42mm and they're excellent for the anticipated riding, but 
>>> slightly heavy (also excellent flat protection in my experience, though 
>>> with tubeless sealant added to the tubes which helps quite a bit). Also 
>>> strongly recommend the Schwalbe G-One Allround in 45mm (they don't yet 
>>> offer the Speed version, with tiny treads vs. the Allround's knobbies, of 
>>> the G-one wider than 38mm, but that's also excellent). 
>>>
>>> I'd bet the 44mm Snoqualmie pass tires are a great fit for this riding 
>>> and they'd still have excellent fender protection under the 52mm Soma 
>>> fenders. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 15:28:25 UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 BTW, the Shikoros are not SOMA's lightweight slick tire. At 320g(28c), 
 350g(33c) 430g(38c) for the folding ones, they're more like replacements 
 for their heavier Everwear tires. The wire rimmed ones are obviously 
 heavier still. Another comparison would be to the Riv Ruffy Tuffy (700x28) 
 or Jack Brown (700x33). SOMA's lightweight tires are the Supple Vitesse 
 models, which are roughly in the same market as the Panaracer GravelKing 
 slicks and the Rene Herse standard casing models:

 SOMA Shikoro (folding): 28c (320g), 33c (350g), 38c (
 430g)

 SOMA Supple Vitesse SL (light):   28c (220g), 33c (250g), 38c (270g), 
 42c (340g)

 SOMA Supple Vitesse EX (heavy): 28c (270g), 33c (290g), 38c (320g), 
 42c (380g)

 Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy:   28c (not currently listed 
 on Riv or SOMA sites, so who knows?)

 Rivendell Jack Brown:33c 
 (320g light, 400g heavy)   

 Panaracer GravelKing slick:28c (270g), 32c (290g), 35c 
 (310g), 38c (330g)

 Rene Herse (standard):28c (248g), 32c (291g), 35c 
 (355g), 38c (385g), 44c (375g)

 Rene Herse (extralight):   28c (225g), 32c (254g), 35c 
 (303g), 38c (350g), 44c (330g)

 By tradition, we can assume that many of these weights are wishful 
 thinking - maybe many of the measurements, too. Some of them are clearly 
 wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires possibly weigh 
 less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass ones, unless the casings on the 700x44s 
 are sidewall-bursting thin? And weightwise, the SOMA Supple Vitesse SLs 
 are 
 just *crazy* light, if those numbers are 

[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[dougP]

Pam:

That's a great story & the documentation is interesting.  I wonder how many 
others ride their bikes a lot but don't track mileage or parts useage.  
I'll bet there's a whole group out there that have no idea, and that most 
of them only have one bike & use it daily, as you do.  You are an 
inspiration.  

dougP

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 6:11:15 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

This is going down as my all-time favorite post on this forum ever. To ride 
a Riv to this extent for a decade, while being an example and an encourager 
to others along the way…well, hats off to our Pam. I have enjoyed the 
article and photos immensely. Grant would be thrilled - Pam, have you sent 
this to him?!

Leah

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:47:44 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> My Betty is a 47 cm and has 26 in wheels, the 50 cm has 650B, the 55 and 
> 60 have 700.  I may be wrong on the 55 but I'm guessing.
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 11:32:40 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> It looks beautiful. You are an inspiration, getting the most joy out of 
>> your bikes. 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>>> beausage.  
>>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>>
>>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Pam Bikes]

My Betty is a 47 cm and has 26 in wheels, the 50 cm has 650B, the 55 and 60 
have 700.  I may be wrong on the 55 but I'm guessing.

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 11:32:40 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> It looks beautiful. You are an inspiration, getting the most joy out of 
> your bikes. 
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of 
>> beausage.  
>> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
>> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
>> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>>
>> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Roberta]

It looks beautiful. You are an inspiration, getting the most joy out of 
your bikes. 

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 9:11:15 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
>

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Re: [RBW] My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Jon Dukeman]

What size wheels do you have?
Jon

On Sat, May 15, 2021, 7:11 PM Pam Bikes  wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
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Re: [RBW] My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Eric Floden]

That is so very cool, thanks!

EricF
Vancouver BC

On Sat, 15 May 2021 at 18:11, Pam Bikes  wrote:

> I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.
> I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled
> together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love
> my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.
>
> http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot questions

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have the original tektro side pull that Riv sold at the time for the Bleriot, 
I assume the Silver are the same but private labeled. My right knee had a 
replacement almost 3 years ago, I was not one of the lucky ones who bounced 
back really easily. I ride but pay the piper afterwards but more my back than 
knee. I get some RFA treatments and it seems to help my back. My replaced knee 
just had a treatment but it is too soon to tell. I fear one day lifting it over 
the TT may become an issue but it is not a problem at this point.

Thanks for the info. I have np even disappointed in Soma’s Customer Service, 
maybe those Tekro brakes Riv is selling are different than the ones I have, or 
maybe the bike or maybe the Bleriot just does not have much extra clearance. I 
had Berthoud fenders on it but they always seemed a pain.

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On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 9:11 PM, exliontamer  wrote:

> My wife's Bleriot has those Dia Compe center pulls(which work incredibly 
> well) and I've fit 42s fendered under there but every twig she ran over got 
> caught up in the fenders. It looks like Soma still sells the Riv side pulls 
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/rivendell-silver-73mm-caliper-f-r-set-2863?category=169
>  but I think these are the same thing 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/brakes-sidepull-tektro-r559-allen
> I'm not trying to fuel anything here but I have shoulder issues and riding 
> upright really helped me out. I'd never presume to know what your knee issues 
> are like but I think the Yves, Betty, Cheviot, or Platypus would be a nice 
> choice for something like that.
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Thanks, this helps as I have never heard of wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes. 
>> No wonder my old Bleriot cannot take more (or much more) than 42mm.
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 3:25 AM, exliontamer  wrote:
>>
>>> Found an old chart and 650x45mm is the maximum stated width. The bikes seem 
>>> to be designed around those wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes and the 
>>> clearance on those is pretty bonkers. I'm riding 38s(I have a 60cm frame) 
>>> and have a massive amount of room. I know the Platypus has even more room 
>>> and is a very similar design if 45mm isn't enough tire for you. Also, the 
>>> top tube is long so if you're not cool with upright bars it may not be a 
>>> good choice.
>>> As far as recommending one, I couldn't say enough nice things about it. 
>>> It's my favorite bike I've owned and the step through makes everything 
>>> easier. It handles absurdly well at every speed. It's just a fun, 
>>> comfortable bike that I want to ride. It's definitely everything I like 
>>> about Rivendell(inclusive, non-aggressive, versatile, good looking, fun) 
>>> wrapped up in a neat package.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 10:45:38 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Pam, I wish I was closer but you have helped with the clearance 
 question.

 Much appreciated,

 Joel
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 On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:59 PM, Pam Bikes  wrote:

> I have a 50 cm Betty - basically the same as the Cheviot. I have a 47 cm 
> Betty and know that I have 1 1/2 in wide tires and fenders with 
> sidepulls. The 50 has sidepulls and the same size tire and I'm sure I can 
> put fenders on it but haven't. Let me know if you want me to measure it. 
> I'm in Charlotte, NC and you're welcome to come ride it to see how it 
> fits, feels.
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 12:45:17 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Thanks Justin. If I decided to try and find one the 50 would be the 
>> right size. I know my 55cm Bleriot with sidepull cannot take 48mm tires. 
>> I thought it was the brakes.
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:34 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> I can't comment on the 50cm Chev, but I have 700x50 tires on my 60cm 
>>> with a Tektro R559 sidepull in the rear and there's plenty of 
>>> clearance. Without fenders, I think you'd be fine clearing a 650bx50 on 
>>> the smaller model. (From my experience, Riv is rather conservative on 
>>> their max tire size recommendations.)
>>>
>>> Not sure what your PBH is but another option would be a 45cm Clem L 
>>> (48.5 chainstays) which can fit up to 26x2.4" tires with a V-brake or 
>>> cantis.
>>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 10:16:28 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Looking at the geometry charts it appears that the 50cm Cheviot has 
 45cm chainstays , so short by Riv’s current standards. Also with 
 sidepull brakes (not sure how this works with room for fat tires). Can 
 anyone comment on this?

 Right now I have 2 Rivs with toptubes and am fine with them. A step 
 thru might be nice if one 

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot questions

[Justin Kennedy]

The Tektro R559’s are the same as the Riv Silver side pulls. The latter are
no longer made and Tektro has taken the design mainstream.

On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 9:11 PM exliontamer  wrote:

> My wife's Bleriot has those Dia Compe center pulls(which work incredibly
> well) and I've fit 42s fendered under there but every twig she ran over got
> caught up in the fenders. It looks like Soma still sells the Riv side pulls
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/rivendell-silver-73mm-caliper-f-r-set-2863?category=169
> but I think these are the same thing
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/brakes-sidepull-tektro-r559-allen
> I'm not trying to fuel anything here but I have shoulder issues and riding
> upright really helped me out. I'd never presume to know what your knee
> issues are like but I think the Yves, Betty, Cheviot, or Platypus would be
> a nice choice for something like that.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Thanks, this helps as I have never heard of wide mouth Riv sidepull
>> brakes.  No wonder my old Bleriot cannot take more (or much more) than
>> 42mm.
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 3:25 AM, exliontamer  wrote:
>>
>> Found an old chart and 650x45mm is the maximum stated width. The bikes
>> seem to be designed around those wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes and the
>> clearance on those is pretty bonkers. I'm riding 38s(I have a 60cm frame)
>> and have a massive amount of room. I know the Platypus has even more room
>> and is a very similar design if 45mm isn't enough tire for you. Also, the
>> top tube is long so if you're not cool with upright bars it may not be a
>> good choice.
>> As far as recommending one, I couldn't say enough nice things about it.
>> It's my favorite bike I've owned and the step through makes everything
>> easier. It handles absurdly well at every speed. It's just a fun,
>> comfortable bike that I want to ride. It's definitely everything I like
>> about Rivendell(inclusive, non-aggressive, versatile, good looking, fun)
>> wrapped up in a neat package.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 10:45:38 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Pam, I wish I was closer but you have helped with the clearance
>>> question.
>>>
>>> Much appreciated,
>>>
>>> Joel
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:59 PM, Pam Bikes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 50 cm Betty - basically the same as the Cheviot.  I have a 47
>>> cm Betty and know that I have 1 1/2 in wide tires and fenders with
>>> sidepulls.  The 50 has sidepulls and the same size tire and I'm sure I can
>>> put fenders on it but haven't.  Let me know if you want me to measure it.
>>> I'm in Charlotte, NC and you're welcome to come ride it to see how it fits,
>>> feels.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 12:45:17 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>>

 Thanks Justin.  If I decided to try and find one the 50 would be the
 right size.  I know my 55cm Bleriot with sidepull cannot take 48mm tires.
 I thought it was the brakes.


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 On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:34 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
 thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I can't comment on the 50cm Chev, but I have 700x50 tires on my 60cm
 with a Tektro R559 sidepull in the rear and there's plenty of clearance.
 Without fenders, I think you'd be fine clearing a 650bx50 on the smaller
 model. (From my experience, Riv is rather conservative on their max tire
 size recommendations.)

 Not sure what your PBH is but another option would be a 45cm Clem L
 (48.5 chainstays) which can fit up to 26x2.4" tires with a V-brake or
 cantis.

 On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 10:16:28 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Looking at the geometry charts  it appears that the 50cm Cheviot has
> 45cm chainstays , so short by Riv’s current standards. Also with sidepull
> brakes (not sure how this works with room for fat tires).  Can anyone
> comment on this?
>
> Right now I have 2 Rivs with toptubes and am fine with them.  A step
> thru might be nice if one of these can be found..  a knee replacement
> and bad back might make this viable.
>
> Your info on this bike especially the tire clearance would be
> appreciated.  I am not a fan of the long chainstay models. Fenders would
> not be used, I ride in dry conditions.
>
> Thank you
>
> Joel
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot questions

[exliontamer]

My wife's Bleriot has those Dia Compe center pulls(which work incredibly 
well) and I've fit 42s fendered under there but every twig she ran over got 
caught up in the fenders. It looks like Soma still sells the Riv side 
pulls 
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/rivendell-silver-73mm-caliper-f-r-set-2863?category=169
 
but I think these are the same thing 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/brakes-sidepull-tektro-r559-allen
I'm not trying to fuel anything here but I have shoulder issues and riding 
upright really helped me out. I'd never presume to know what your knee 
issues are like but I think the Yves, Betty, Cheviot, or Platypus would be 
a nice choice for something like that. 


On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Thanks, this helps as I have never heard of wide mouth Riv sidepull 
> brakes.  No wonder my old Bleriot cannot take more (or much more) than 
> 42mm.  
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 3:25 AM, exliontamer  wrote:
>
> Found an old chart and 650x45mm is the maximum stated width. The bikes 
> seem to be designed around those wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes and the 
> clearance on those is pretty bonkers. I'm riding 38s(I have a 60cm frame) 
> and have a massive amount of room. I know the Platypus has even more room 
> and is a very similar design if 45mm isn't enough tire for you. Also, the 
> top tube is long so if you're not cool with upright bars it may not be a 
> good choice. 
> As far as recommending one, I couldn't say enough nice things about it. 
> It's my favorite bike I've owned and the step through makes everything 
> easier. It handles absurdly well at every speed. It's just a fun, 
> comfortable bike that I want to ride. It's definitely everything I like 
> about Rivendell(inclusive, non-aggressive, versatile, good looking, fun) 
> wrapped up in a neat package. 
>
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 10:45:38 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Pam, I wish I was closer but you have helped with the clearance 
>> question. 
>>
>> Much appreciated,  
>>
>> Joel
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:59 PM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
>>
>> I have a 50 cm Betty - basically the same as the Cheviot.  I have a 47 cm 
>> Betty and know that I have 1 1/2 in wide tires and fenders with sidepulls.  
>> The 50 has sidepulls and the same size tire and I'm sure I can put fenders 
>> on it but haven't.  Let me know if you want me to measure it.  I'm in 
>> Charlotte, NC and you're welcome to come ride it to see how it fits, feels.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 12:45:17 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Justin.  If I decided to try and find one the 50 would be the 
>>> right size.  I know my 55cm Bleriot with sidepull cannot take 48mm tires. 
>>>  I thought it was the brakes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:34 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't comment on the 50cm Chev, but I have 700x50 tires on my 60cm 
>>> with a Tektro R559 sidepull in the rear and there's plenty of clearance. 
>>> Without fenders, I think you'd be fine clearing a 650bx50 on the smaller 
>>> model. (From my experience, Riv is rather conservative on their max tire 
>>> size recommendations.)
>>>
>>> Not sure what your PBH is but another option would be a 45cm Clem L 
>>> (48.5 chainstays) which can fit up to 26x2.4" tires with a V-brake or 
>>> cantis. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 10:16:28 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Looking at the geometry charts  it appears that the 50cm Cheviot has 
 45cm chainstays , so short by Riv’s current standards. Also with sidepull 
 brakes (not sure how this works with room for fat tires).  Can anyone 
 comment on this?

 Right now I have 2 Rivs with toptubes and am fine with them.  A step 
 thru might be nice if one of these can be found..  a knee replacement 
 and bad back might make this viable.  

 Your info on this bike especially the tire clearance would be 
 appreciated.  I am not a fan of the long chainstay models. Fenders would 
 not be used, I ride in dry conditions. 

 Thank you

 Joel

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[RBW] My Betty Foy after 10 years

[Pam Bikes]

I wanted to share pictures of a Riv after 10 years with lots of beausage.  
I'm terrible at Wordpress and not sure how to format it so it's cobbled 
together but I did put all the pictures there and some fun facts.  I love 
my bike.  It's the one thing I use everyday and enjoy riding it still.

http://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/

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[RBW] Cycling Savvy Greensboro

[Pam Bikes]

I'll be in Greensboro, NC teaching Cycling Savvy with my Betty Foy June 
5th.   If anyone is nearby, y'all should come join me.  I've never thought 
to post here but I'd love to have some Rivs in my course.  

I usually teach in m home city of Charlotte, NC but occasionally travel to 
teach with other instructors.  I may be teaching in Portland, ME in July. 
Here's a link to the course with a full description of what's it's about.  
https://cyclingsavvy.org/event/cyclingsavvy-full-course-greensboro-nc/2021-06-02/

As much as you love your Riv, you'll equally love Cycling Savvy.  Given the 
combination of my Betty and Cycling Savvy I've ridden over 50,000 glorious 
miles.  

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[RBW] Re: Charlotte, NC Riv Ride

[Pam Bikes]

I'll be in Greensboro teaching Cycling Savvy June 5th.  Here's the link.  
Please come!  I'll have my Betty and my co instructor has a lugged 
Holdsworth bike.  Here's the link.  Everyone is welcome!  
https://cyclingsavvy.org/event/cyclingsavvy-full-course-greensboro-nc/2021-06-02/

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 4:43:21 PM UTC-4 Artaud wrote:

> Yes! I'm in Greensboro and would happily make the drive south.
> Le samedi 15 mai 2021 à 15:41:50 UTC-4, RichS a écrit :
>
>> Pam,
>>
>> What an impressive fleet of step-over Rivs. Nicely portrayed too. Good 
>> food for thought regarding the Riv ride.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 11:10:44 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I'm thinking about a Riv ride in Charlotte, NC. And maybe even bring 
>>> S24O gear show and tell.  Sat or Sun in June.  Anybody on here interested 
>>> and able to come?  I also have 3 extra if someone wants to try them out: 50 
>>> CM Betty Foy, 55 Cheviot, 60 Cheviot.  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Charlotte, NC Riv Ride

[Artaud]

Yes! I'm in Greensboro and would happily make the drive south.
Le samedi 15 mai 2021 à 15:41:50 UTC-4, RichS a écrit :

> Pam,
>
> What an impressive fleet of step-over Rivs. Nicely portrayed too. Good 
> food for thought regarding the Riv ride.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 11:10:44 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about a Riv ride in Charlotte, NC. And maybe even bring S24O 
>> gear show and tell.  Sat or Sun in June.  Anybody on here interested and 
>> able to come?  I also have 3 extra if someone wants to try them out: 50 CM 
>> Betty Foy, 55 Cheviot, 60 Cheviot.  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB VERY used Snoqualmie Pass

[Brady Smith]

I have a set of SnoPs mounted to H Plus Son TB 14 rims under the VO 52s on 
my BMC Monstercross. I ride a mix of road and dirt and find clearances to 
be acceptable.
On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:54:51 PM UTC-4 Adam wrote:

> Thanks
>
> And thanks to the list, I have some on the way.
>
> I'll post back about fit under the VO 52s. I may just start another thread 
> about fender clearances on dirt. I've installed the Portland Design Works 
> releases, but am putting a lot of faith in them to actually work when 
> needed.
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:46:13 AM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:
>
>> No luck here, but just chipping in to say that, when mounted on 
>> Cliffhangers, the SnoPs do just fit under VO 52mm fenders (Sam H). It is 
>> close enough to sketch me out a bit on dirt. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:09:48 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Adam
>>> Are you still making sling shots and selling security screws and bolts.
>>> I have a pair of "barely used "Snoqualmie pass 700c tires.  Black 
>>> sidewall.
>>> My priorities have changed. Flat resistant takes precident over cushy 
>>> ride I had a flat and went back to schwalbe.
>>> This maybe more than you want to spend . You can see the fine tread like 
>>> new. They are pretty close to being a slick.
>>> How about $60 for both plus a sling shot and free shipping depending 
>>> where you live. 
>>> Let me know.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 11, 2021, 1:49 PM Adam  wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 I'm thinking about buying some snoqualmie pass tires, but would love to 
 try them on some of the surfaces I ride before committing to the price of 
 new ones.

 Does anyone have a set of VERY used sonqualmie passes that they'd be 
 willing to sell for cheap? Even if they only have <50miles left, that's 
 fine, I just want to check clearances under the VO 52mm fenders, their 
 handling of mud and dirt, and compare them to the cazaderos I'm currently 
 using.

 Thanks

 Adam

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[RBW] Re: Charlotte, NC Riv Ride

[RichS]

Pam,

What an impressive fleet of step-over Rivs. Nicely portrayed too. Good food 
for thought regarding the Riv ride.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 11:10:44 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I'm thinking about a Riv ride in Charlotte, NC. And maybe even bring S24O 
> gear show and tell.  Sat or Sun in June.  Anybody on here interested and 
> able to come?  I also have 3 extra if someone wants to try them out: 50 CM 
> Betty Foy, 55 Cheviot, 60 Cheviot.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Olivier Chételat]

Mr Brendan & Mr Jeffrey, that place is too marvelous to not ride your bike 
there at least once. I'll Riv my way to Steep Ravine next time.

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:52:39 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> Hwy 1 and Deer:[image: IMG_0294.jpeg][image: IMG_0328.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:50:44 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> I did an s24o to Steep Ravine Cabin 5 on Monday!  Truly a treasure- it's 
>> only 22 miles from my door in Nob Hill SF. There are a few challenging 
>> climbs made more so with the additional weight of beer and burritos.  
>>  Speaking of beer, I soaked my only shoes in the ocean after misjudging the 
>> tide while trying to chill said beverage in the water.  The ride home was a 
>> little less fun with wet feet. Too bad about the red flag warning here; no 
>> fires![image: IMG_0306.jpg][image: IMG_0301.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:
>>
>>> Olivier, the cabins are amazing! I actually stayed in one on the last 
>>> day of my trip down there too. Nothing like it! Riding to Steep Ravine via 
>>> Highway 1 was harder than I expected! Worth it though.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 7:08 PM Olivier Chételat  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Jeffrey, I spent the night of Wednesday to Thursday at Steep Ravine 
 (Cabin 4). I almost rode my Atlantis there but for logistical reasons had 
 to drive in. Such a wonderful spot (and Hunqapillar).

 On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 6:41:46 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:

> A couple photos with my Hunqapillar from a recent ride to the Steep 
> Ravine campgrounds just north of San Francisco, my favorite place!
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Re: [RBW] WTB VERY used Snoqualmie Pass

[Adam]

Thanks

And thanks to the list, I have some on the way.

I'll post back about fit under the VO 52s. I may just start another thread 
about fender clearances on dirt. I've installed the Portland Design Works 
releases, but am putting a lot of faith in them to actually work when 
needed.

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:46:13 AM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:

> No luck here, but just chipping in to say that, when mounted on 
> Cliffhangers, the SnoPs do just fit under VO 52mm fenders (Sam H). It is 
> close enough to sketch me out a bit on dirt. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:09:48 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Adam
>> Are you still making sling shots and selling security screws and bolts.
>> I have a pair of "barely used "Snoqualmie pass 700c tires.  Black 
>> sidewall.
>> My priorities have changed. Flat resistant takes precident over cushy 
>> ride I had a flat and went back to schwalbe.
>> This maybe more than you want to spend . You can see the fine tread like 
>> new. They are pretty close to being a slick.
>> How about $60 for both plus a sling shot and free shipping depending 
>> where you live. 
>> Let me know.
>> Jon
>>
>> On Tue, May 11, 2021, 1:49 PM Adam  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about buying some snoqualmie pass tires, but would love to 
>>> try them on some of the surfaces I ride before committing to the price of 
>>> new ones.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a set of VERY used sonqualmie passes that they'd be 
>>> willing to sell for cheap? Even if they only have <50miles left, that's 
>>> fine, I just want to check clearances under the VO 52mm fenders, their 
>>> handling of mud and dirt, and compare them to the cazaderos I'm currently 
>>> using.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Jeffrey S]

So glad a lot of us are taking advantage of Steep Ravine! I was in Cabin 9. 
Just amazing.

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:52:39 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> Hwy 1 and Deer:[image: IMG_0294.jpeg][image: IMG_0328.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 8:50:44 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> I did an s24o to Steep Ravine Cabin 5 on Monday!  Truly a treasure- it's 
>> only 22 miles from my door in Nob Hill SF. There are a few challenging 
>> climbs made more so with the additional weight of beer and burritos.  
>>  Speaking of beer, I soaked my only shoes in the ocean after misjudging the 
>> tide while trying to chill said beverage in the water.  The ride home was a 
>> little less fun with wet feet. Too bad about the red flag warning here; no 
>> fires![image: IMG_0306.jpg][image: IMG_0301.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:
>>
>>> Olivier, the cabins are amazing! I actually stayed in one on the last 
>>> day of my trip down there too. Nothing like it! Riding to Steep Ravine via 
>>> Highway 1 was harder than I expected! Worth it though.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 7:08 PM Olivier Chételat  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Jeffrey, I spent the night of Wednesday to Thursday at Steep Ravine 
 (Cabin 4). I almost rode my Atlantis there but for logistical reasons had 
 to drive in. Such a wonderful spot (and Hunqapillar).

 On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 6:41:46 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:

> A couple photos with my Hunqapillar from a recent ride to the Steep 
> Ravine campgrounds just north of San Francisco, my favorite place!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Need Platypus tire advice

[Garth]

On the subject of racks, I ran across this recently and thought it may be 
of interest to Riv riders mainly due to the awesome color choices like 
Turquoise, Red, British Racing Green or Powder Blue  !!!   

Public Rack 


On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 10:49:59 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Another quickie. The Nitto racks are beautiful but heavy. I have one of 
> the Axiom racks and it is matte silver rather than beautiful shiny but a 
> much lighter.   
>
> I’m SO excited for you  Mine in two weeks. We will WOW them when 
> bikers see a Platy pod coming towards them when we go for a ride together.
>
> Roberta
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2021, at 8:47 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> After talking with Vince at RivBike.  I decided to go with the Switchback 
> Hills 48 also.  No fenders.
>
> That was the easy decision.  I just can't figure out what handlebars to go 
> with!
> Choco? Tosco? flat with sweep?  Lost in the internet for hours!!!
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:57:39 AM UTC-4 willms...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, I have Snoqualmie Passes on my Hillborne with the 
>> Simworks 58 Hammered fenders and they work great.  I just got a Platypus 
>> for my wife and she has Switchback Hills and our plan is to have our LBS 
>> install the Simworks 62 smooth fenders on her bike.  
>>
>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 8:38:24 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> "Some of them are clearly wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse 
>>> Snoqualmie Pass tires possibly weigh less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass" ... 
>>> apparently Jan answered this in the comments to a blog post at Rene 
>>> Herse 
>>> 
>>> : 
>>> "Compass tires are largely made by hand. The rubber coating of the 
>>> casing, but also the tread thickness, vary a bit from one production run to 
>>> the next. *The last batch of Barlow Pass tires turned out a tad heavy 
>>> (which means they set up very easily tubeless), while recent Snoqualmies 
>>> have been at the light end of the spectrum.* They all ride great, and 
>>> you’ll be hard-pressed to notice the difference on the road." 
>>>
>>> I have Continental Speed Contact (or as riv called them, Basketball 
>>> tires) in 700x42mm and they're excellent for the anticipated riding, but 
>>> slightly heavy (also excellent flat protection in my experience, though 
>>> with tubeless sealant added to the tubes which helps quite a bit). Also 
>>> strongly recommend the Schwalbe G-One Allround in 45mm (they don't yet 
>>> offer the Speed version, with tiny treads vs. the Allround's knobbies, of 
>>> the G-one wider than 38mm, but that's also excellent). 
>>>
>>> I'd bet the 44mm Snoqualmie pass tires are a great fit for this riding 
>>> and they'd still have excellent fender protection under the 52mm Soma 
>>> fenders. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 15:28:25 UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 BTW, the Shikoros are not SOMA's lightweight slick tire. At 320g(28c), 
 350g(33c) 430g(38c) for the folding ones, they're more like replacements 
 for their heavier Everwear tires. The wire rimmed ones are obviously 
 heavier still. Another comparison would be to the Riv Ruffy Tuffy (700x28) 
 or Jack Brown (700x33). SOMA's lightweight tires are the Supple Vitesse 
 models, which are roughly in the same market as the Panaracer GravelKing 
 slicks and the Rene Herse standard casing models:

 SOMA Shikoro (folding): 28c (320g), 33c (350g), 38c (
 430g)

 SOMA Supple Vitesse SL (light):   28c (220g), 33c (250g), 38c (270g), 
 42c (340g)

 SOMA Supple Vitesse EX (heavy): 28c (270g), 33c (290g), 38c (320g), 
 42c (380g)

 Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy:   28c (not currently listed 
 on Riv or SOMA sites, so who knows?)

 Rivendell Jack Brown:33c 
 (320g light, 400g heavy)   

 Panaracer GravelKing slick:28c (270g), 32c (290g), 35c 
 (310g), 38c (330g)

 Rene Herse (standard):28c (248g), 32c (291g), 35c 
 (355g), 38c (385g), 44c (375g)

 Rene Herse (extralight):   28c (225g), 32c (254g), 35c 
 (303g), 38c (350g), 44c (330g)

 By tradition, we can assume that many of these weights are wishful 
 thinking - maybe many of the measurements, too. Some of them are clearly 
 wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires possibly weigh 
 less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass ones, unless the casings on the 700x44s 
 are sidewall-bursting thin? And weightwise, the SOMA Supple Vitesse SLs 
 are 
 just *crazy* light, if 

Re: [RBW] Re: Need Platypus tire advice

[REC]

Another quickie. The Nitto racks are beautiful but heavy. I have one of the 
Axiom racks and it is matte silver rather than beautiful shiny but a much 
lighter.   

I’m SO excited for you  Mine in two weeks. We will WOW them when bikers see 
a Platy pod coming towards them when we go for a ride together.

Roberta

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> On May 14, 2021, at 8:47 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> After talking with Vince at RivBike.  I decided to go with the Switchback 
> Hills 48 also.  No fenders.
> That was the easy decision.  I just can't figure out what handlebars to go 
> with!
> Choco? Tosco? flat with sweep?  Lost in the internet for hours!!!
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> 
>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:57:39 AM UTC-4 willms...@gmail.com wrote:
>> For what it's worth, I have Snoqualmie Passes on my Hillborne with the 
>> Simworks 58 Hammered fenders and they work great.  I just got a Platypus for 
>> my wife and she has Switchback Hills and our plan is to have our LBS install 
>> the Simworks 62 smooth fenders on her bike.  
>> 
>>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 8:38:24 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>> "Some of them are clearly wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse Snoqualmie 
>>> Pass tires possibly weigh less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass" ... apparently 
>>> Jan answered this in the comments to a blog post at Rene Herse: 
>>> "Compass tires are largely made by hand. The rubber coating of the casing, 
>>> but also the tread thickness, vary a bit from one production run to the 
>>> next. The last batch of Barlow Pass tires turned out a tad heavy (which 
>>> means they set up very easily tubeless), while recent Snoqualmies have been 
>>> at the light end of the spectrum. They all ride great, and you’ll be 
>>> hard-pressed to notice the difference on the road." 
>>> 
>>> I have Continental Speed Contact (or as riv called them, Basketball tires) 
>>> in 700x42mm and they're excellent for the anticipated riding, but slightly 
>>> heavy (also excellent flat protection in my experience, though with 
>>> tubeless sealant added to the tubes which helps quite a bit). Also strongly 
>>> recommend the Schwalbe G-One Allround in 45mm (they don't yet offer the 
>>> Speed version, with tiny treads vs. the Allround's knobbies, of the G-one 
>>> wider than 38mm, but that's also excellent). 
>>> 
>>> I'd bet the 44mm Snoqualmie pass tires are a great fit for this riding and 
>>> they'd still have excellent fender protection under the 52mm Soma fenders. 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 15:28:25 UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
 BTW, the Shikoros are not SOMA's lightweight slick tire. At 320g(28c), 
 350g(33c) 430g(38c) for the folding ones, they're more like replacements 
 for their heavier Everwear tires. The wire rimmed ones are obviously 
 heavier still. Another comparison would be to the Riv Ruffy Tuffy (700x28) 
 or Jack Brown (700x33). SOMA's lightweight tires are the Supple Vitesse 
 models, which are roughly in the same market as the Panaracer GravelKing 
 slicks and the Rene Herse standard casing models:
 
 SOMA Shikoro (folding): 28c (320g), 33c (350g), 38c (430g)
 
 SOMA Supple Vitesse SL (light):   28c (220g), 33c (250g), 38c (270g), 42c 
 (340g)
 
 SOMA Supple Vitesse EX (heavy): 28c (270g), 33c (290g), 38c (320g), 42c 
 (380g)
 
 Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy:   28c (not currently listed on 
 Riv or SOMA sites, so who knows?)
 
 Rivendell Jack Brown:33c (320g 
 light, 400g heavy)   
 
 Panaracer GravelKing slick:28c (270g), 32c (290g), 35c (310g), 
 38c (330g)
 
 Rene Herse (standard):28c (248g), 32c (291g), 35c 
 (355g), 38c (385g), 44c (375g)
 
 Rene Herse (extralight):   28c (225g), 32c (254g), 35c 
 (303g), 38c (350g), 44c (330g)
 
 By tradition, we can assume that many of these weights are wishful 
 thinking - maybe many of the measurements, too. Some of them are clearly 
 wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires possibly weigh 
 less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass ones, unless the casings on the 700x44s 
 are sidewall-bursting thin? And weightwise, the SOMA Supple Vitesse SLs 
 are just crazy light, if those numbers are real.
 
 A nice-riding, fairly durable 700x30-something tire (if you can find them) 
 is the SOMA New Express, which has the Panaracer Pasela tread with a more 
 flexible casing. This was originally a 700c tire, which SOMA discontinued 
 when they introduced the Supple Vitesse on the lighter end and the Shikoro 
 on the heavier end. I rode a pair of folding New Expresses in 700x35 for a 
 year or so on my around-town bike, and really liked them; I'd buy them 
 again if they were still available.
 
 Peter Adler
 Berkeley, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot questions

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks, this helps as I have never heard of wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes. No 
wonder my old Bleriot cannot take more (or much more) than 42mm.

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On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 3:25 AM, exliontamer  wrote:

> Found an old chart and 650x45mm is the maximum stated width. The bikes seem 
> to be designed around those wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes and the clearance 
> on those is pretty bonkers. I'm riding 38s(I have a 60cm frame) and have a 
> massive amount of room. I know the Platypus has even more room and is a very 
> similar design if 45mm isn't enough tire for you. Also, the top tube is long 
> so if you're not cool with upright bars it may not be a good choice.
> As far as recommending one, I couldn't say enough nice things about it. It's 
> my favorite bike I've owned and the step through makes everything easier. It 
> handles absurdly well at every speed. It's just a fun, comfortable bike that 
> I want to ride. It's definitely everything I like about Rivendell(inclusive, 
> non-aggressive, versatile, good looking, fun) wrapped up in a neat package.
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 10:45:38 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Thanks Pam, I wish I was closer but you have helped with the clearance 
>> question.
>>
>> Much appreciated,
>>
>> Joel
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>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:59 PM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 50 cm Betty - basically the same as the Cheviot. I have a 47 cm 
>>> Betty and know that I have 1 1/2 in wide tires and fenders with sidepulls. 
>>> The 50 has sidepulls and the same size tire and I'm sure I can put fenders 
>>> on it but haven't. Let me know if you want me to measure it. I'm in 
>>> Charlotte, NC and you're welcome to come ride it to see how it fits, feels.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 12:45:17 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Justin. If I decided to try and find one the 50 would be the right 
 size. I know my 55cm Bleriot with sidepull cannot take 48mm tires. I 
 thought it was the brakes.

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 On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:34 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
  wrote:

> I can't comment on the 50cm Chev, but I have 700x50 tires on my 60cm with 
> a Tektro R559 sidepull in the rear and there's plenty of clearance. 
> Without fenders, I think you'd be fine clearing a 650bx50 on the smaller 
> model. (From my experience, Riv is rather conservative on their max tire 
> size recommendations.)
>
> Not sure what your PBH is but another option would be a 45cm Clem L (48.5 
> chainstays) which can fit up to 26x2.4" tires with a V-brake or cantis.
> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 10:16:28 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Looking at the geometry charts it appears that the 50cm Cheviot has 45cm 
>> chainstays , so short by Riv’s current standards. Also with sidepull 
>> brakes (not sure how this works with room for fat tires). Can anyone 
>> comment on this?
>>
>> Right now I have 2 Rivs with toptubes and am fine with them. A step thru 
>> might be nice if one of these can be found.. a knee replacement and 
>> bad back might make this viable.
>>
>> Your info on this bike especially the tire clearance would be 
>> appreciated. I am not a fan of the long chainstay models. Fenders would 
>> not be used, I ride in dry conditions.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Joel

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[RBW] Re: front derailer for Silver - 2 piece with 32/22 chainrings

[Garth]

I bought a Shimano M611 band clamp version for my Susie with 22/34/44 
rings, though I've yet to put the bike together. Double check the clamp 
diameters to make sure it includes the 28.6 shim or else get one. 
On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 12:02:44 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This comes up a lot lately..some folks think that crank should use a road 
> double, but it's actually a mountain triple crank with the big ring 
> replaced by a smaller trouser guard. So if you can find a 
> Shimano/Microshift/IRD mtb-ish triple that will fit the seattube you're 
> good to go. Just remember it might sit kinda high over that trouser guard 
> in order to hit the chain in the right spot for the middle/small rings. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 7:45:21 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> Hi, could anyone recommend a front derailer for this crank and 
>> chainrings? Preferably, one that's obtainable, but any info is helpful. I'm 
>> building up a Gus, and I realized I never bought a front derailer. Thanks 
>> in advance.
>
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[RBW] ISO Son Dynamo, Widebody preferred

[Steve Cole]

Hi, I'm looking for a gently used SonDeluxe Widebody 36H Hub for a second 
set of wheels I am building for my MIT Atlantis.  I would also consider a 
non-widebody version if you are willing to part with it. I need a Schmidt 
because of the connectors.  Please PM me if you can help me.  Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot questions

[exliontamer]

Found an old chart and 650x45mm is the maximum stated width. The bikes seem 
to be designed around those wide mouth Riv sidepull brakes and the 
clearance on those is pretty bonkers. I'm riding 38s(I have a 60cm frame) 
and have a massive amount of room. I know the Platypus has even more room 
and is a very similar design if 45mm isn't enough tire for you. Also, the 
top tube is long so if you're not cool with upright bars it may not be a 
good choice. 
As far as recommending one, I couldn't say enough nice things about it. 
It's my favorite bike I've owned and the step through makes everything 
easier. It handles absurdly well at every speed. It's just a fun, 
comfortable bike that I want to ride. It's definitely everything I like 
about Rivendell(inclusive, non-aggressive, versatile, good looking, fun) 
wrapped up in a neat package. 


On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 10:45:38 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

>
> Thanks Pam, I wish I was closer but you have helped with the clearance 
> question. 
>
> Much appreciated,  
>
> Joel
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:59 PM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
>
> I have a 50 cm Betty - basically the same as the Cheviot.  I have a 47 cm 
> Betty and know that I have 1 1/2 in wide tires and fenders with sidepulls.  
> The 50 has sidepulls and the same size tire and I'm sure I can put fenders 
> on it but haven't.  Let me know if you want me to measure it.  I'm in 
> Charlotte, NC and you're welcome to come ride it to see how it fits, feels.
>
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 12:45:17 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Justin.  If I decided to try and find one the 50 would be the 
>> right size.  I know my 55cm Bleriot with sidepull cannot take 48mm tires. 
>>  I thought it was the brakes. 
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 10:34 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can't comment on the 50cm Chev, but I have 700x50 tires on my 60cm with 
>> a Tektro R559 sidepull in the rear and there's plenty of clearance. Without 
>> fenders, I think you'd be fine clearing a 650bx50 on the smaller model. 
>> (From my experience, Riv is rather conservative on their max tire size 
>> recommendations.)
>>
>> Not sure what your PBH is but another option would be a 45cm Clem L (48.5 
>> chainstays) which can fit up to 26x2.4" tires with a V-brake or cantis. 
>>
>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 10:16:28 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at the geometry charts  it appears that the 50cm Cheviot has 
>>> 45cm chainstays , so short by Riv’s current standards. Also with sidepull 
>>> brakes (not sure how this works with room for fat tires).  Can anyone 
>>> comment on this?
>>>
>>> Right now I have 2 Rivs with toptubes and am fine with them.  A step 
>>> thru might be nice if one of these can be found..  a knee replacement 
>>> and bad back might make this viable.  
>>>
>>> Your info on this bike especially the tire clearance would be 
>>> appreciated.  I am not a fan of the long chainstay models. Fenders would 
>>> not be used, I ride in dry conditions. 
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Jeffrey Sincich]

Olivier, the cabins are amazing! I actually stayed in one on the last day
of my trip down there too. Nothing like it! Riding to Steep Ravine via
Highway 1 was harder than I expected! Worth it though.

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 7:08 PM Olivier Chételat  wrote:

> Jeffrey, I spent the night of Wednesday to Thursday at Steep Ravine (Cabin
> 4). I almost rode my Atlantis there but for logistical reasons had to drive
> in. Such a wonderful spot (and Hunqapillar).
>
> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 6:41:46 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:
>
>> A couple photos with my Hunqapillar from a recent ride to the Steep
>> Ravine campgrounds just north of San Francisco, my favorite place!
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