[RBW] Re: Rack mountable UBS lights

[Ed Carolipio]

Hi Kushan,

You can get a "knob" to create a mounting point for a handlebar USB 
headlight. Here's the Problem Solver 

 
one for a side . Here's the Planet Bike 

 
for the fork which would work on a front eyelet.  Cateye has a dedicated 
fork mount  for their 
headlights only which can work on the front eyelet as well.

--Ed C.
On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:51:44 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> Hi all - 
>
> Does any have recommendations for a decent rack mounted USB light? My rack 
> 
>  
> has braze-ons for mounting lights but finding lights for them is proving to 
> be harder than I thought. Most USB lights 
>  on 
> the market seem to have clip-on, handlebar type of the mount. 
>
> I don't ride much in dark but like to have non-fancy but good (200 lumens 
> or more) USB lights on me just in case. I currently use handlebar-mounted 
> ones but starting to run out of HB real estate and would like to move the 
> lights to the front rack.
>
> Best
> Kushan
>

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[RBW] Re: Rack mountable UBS lights

[A. Douglas M.]

https://www.biketinker.com/2010/projects/cork-light-mount/#more-41

Best,

Aaron in El Paso 
On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:10:56 PM UTC-6 Nathan F wrote:

> Kushan,
>
> Most USB lights won't natively mount to your rack, and those that do (like 
> the Blue Lug Koma on Crust Bike's webstore) are daytime safety blinkers, 
> not serious headlights. To use something bright enough to actually 
> illuminate things, you'll need to use an adaptor like the Paul Gino or 
> Problem Solvers Braze-On Light Mount.
>
> - Nathan in pdx
> On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 at 19:51:44 UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Hi all - 
>>
>> Does any have recommendations for a decent rack mounted USB light? My 
>> rack 
>> 
>>  
>> has braze-ons for mounting lights but finding lights for them is proving to 
>> be harder than I thought. Most USB lights 
>>  
>> on the market seem to have clip-on, handlebar type of the mount. 
>>
>> I don't ride much in dark but like to have non-fancy but good (200 lumens 
>> or more) USB lights on me just in case. I currently use handlebar-mounted 
>> ones but starting to run out of HB real estate and would like to move the 
>> lights to the front rack.
>>
>> Best
>> Kushan
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Silver Brand 38t Chain Guard 110bcd

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Sounds good! Bill sent one out in the mail to me today.

Thanks 
Tim

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:38:11 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Bill, you sell your guard to Tim and I’ll sell mine to Joe. 
>
> Yes?
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 1, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> My 42 guards are gone, now whichever one of Leah or Bill DIDN'T sell 
> their 38 to Tim, holla at me. I need one!
>
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I think my HubbuHubbuH captain crankset came with one of those, and when 
>> I swapped out the arms I ended up with a spare guard and steel ring.  I'll 
>> check the stash.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 8:24:35 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim, I think I have that... I don't know if it will say on the trouser 
>>> guard, but I think the stock Clem L came with a 38t front ring and I wanted 
>>> something harder to pedal and got a 42... I can look tomorrow.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Tom, I have a couple 42s I was planning to post here if you or anyone 
 else are interested. 

 For pics and a price chat email, or text 415 786 4623 
 <(415)%20786-4623>

 Joe Bernard

 On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:04:04 PM UTC-7 Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:

> Hey!
>
> Anyone have a Silver Brand chainring guard for 38 teeth? Riv is sold 
> out. 
>
> Thanks!
> Tim
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[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 4:08:01 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:

> …
> I actually had a guy (on a CFRP bike obviously with integrated shifters 
> and under 30 spokes total holding his 6" section rims to his hubs) look at 
> my bike with bar end shifters and proclaim them unsafe and that ride rules 
> should prevent such dangerous things from being operated amongst all the 
> "safe" riders and their equipment. "He has to move his hands away from the 
> brakes to change gears". No shift, Sherlock.
>

Wow! Wait until he gets a look at my Atlantis. Not only do I have to move 
my hands way, *way* over to the downtube to manipulate the shift levers, I 
also don't have any retention devices on my pedals and shoes! OMG! And my 
saddle…it's shiny leather! How do I do it? Well, at least I compromised 
with index shifters (switchable to friction).


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Silver Brand 38t Chain Guard 110bcd

[Leah Peterson]

Bill, you sell your guard to Tim and I’ll sell mine to Joe. 

Yes?
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 1, 2021, at 2:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> My 42 guards are gone, now whichever one of Leah or Bill DIDN'T sell their 
> 38 to Tim, holla at me. I need one!
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>> I think my HubbuHubbuH captain crankset came with one of those, and when I 
>> swapped out the arms I ended up with a spare guard and steel ring.  I'll 
>> check the stash.
>> 
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 8:24:35 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>>> Tim, I think I have that... I don't know if it will say on the trouser 
>>> guard, but I think the stock Clem L came with a 38t front ring and I wanted 
>>> something harder to pedal and got a 42... I can look tomorrow.
>>> 
 On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
 Tom, I have a couple 42s I was planning to post here if you or anyone else 
 are interested. 
 
 For pics and a price chat email, or text 415 786 4623
 
 Joe Bernard
 
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:04:04 PM UTC-7 Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:
> Hey!
> 
> Anyone have a Silver Brand chainring guard for 38 teeth? Riv is sold out. 
> 
> Thanks!
> Tim
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Moon Unit pair

[Jared Wilson]

If you check here (internet-bob) a guy had both silver and black available.

https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/KH_NqA5Y_Fs

Hope you score some.

Jared



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Max Faingezicht  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Jared,
> 
> Any extra moon units sellers from the bunch? I’m interested in a pair of 
> silver, orange or perhaps some other color.
> 
> Thanks
> Max
> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>> Got 'em, thanks all
>> 
>>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:12:50 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>> Hello all
>>> 
>>> As the title reads, looking for (2) Paul Moon Unit cantilever yokes, colors 
>>> preferred.
>>> 
>>> Final touch for getting my Susie converted to cantilevers and I'm hoping 
>>> someone has a pair collecting dust that they can send down the line.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Jared
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[RBW] Re: Rack mountable UBS lights

[Nathan F]

Kushan,

Most USB lights won't natively mount to your rack, and those that do (like 
the Blue Lug Koma on Crust Bike's webstore) are daytime safety blinkers, 
not serious headlights. To use something bright enough to actually 
illuminate things, you'll need to use an adaptor like the Paul Gino or 
Problem Solvers Braze-On Light Mount.

- Nathan in pdx
On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 at 19:51:44 UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> Hi all - 
>
> Does any have recommendations for a decent rack mounted USB light? My rack 
> 
>  
> has braze-ons for mounting lights but finding lights for them is proving to 
> be harder than I thought. Most USB lights 
>  on 
> the market seem to have clip-on, handlebar type of the mount. 
>
> I don't ride much in dark but like to have non-fancy but good (200 lumens 
> or more) USB lights on me just in case. I currently use handlebar-mounted 
> ones but starting to run out of HB real estate and would like to move the 
> lights to the front rack.
>
> Best
> Kushan
>

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[RBW] Rack mountable UBS lights

[Kushan]

Hi all - 

Does any have recommendations for a decent rack mounted USB light? My rack 

 
has braze-ons for mounting lights but finding lights for them is proving to 
be harder than I thought. Most USB lights 
 on 
the market seem to have clip-on, handlebar type of the mount. 

I don't ride much in dark but like to have non-fancy but good (200 lumens 
or more) USB lights on me just in case. I currently use handlebar-mounted 
ones but starting to run out of HB real estate and would like to move the 
lights to the front rack.

Best
Kushan

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Moon Unit pair

[Max Faingezicht]

Hey Jared,

Any extra moon units sellers from the bunch? I’m interested in a pair of 
silver, orange or perhaps some other color.

Thanks
Max

> On Jun 1, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Got 'em, thanks all
> 
>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:12:50 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>> Hello all
>> 
>> As the title reads, looking for (2) Paul Moon Unit cantilever yokes, colors 
>> preferred.
>> 
>> Final touch for getting my Susie converted to cantilevers and I'm hoping 
>> someone has a pair collecting dust that they can send down the line.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Jared
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Moon Unit pair

[Jared Wilson]

Got 'em, thanks all

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:12:50 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hello all
>
> As the title reads, looking for (2) Paul Moon Unit cantilever yokes, 
> colors preferred.
>
> Final touch for getting my Susie converted to cantilevers and I'm hoping 
> someone has a pair collecting dust that they can send down the line.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jared
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 700x47 Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tires

[Howard Hatten]

PM sent
Howard 
Livonia Mi. 

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:28:23 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Price drop - $50 shipped.
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:40:53 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> Two 700x47 Schwalbe Marathon Plus Performance Line SmartGuard tires, 
>> barely used (100 - 200 miles) - still showing the casting flash in the 
>> center of the tread. $60 OBO for the pair shipped CONUS.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> [image: Tires.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 1 bikes worth of parts (FW Evans Saga VII)

[Andrew Turner]

Brakes are gone as well. Also I'm gonna bump the frameset price to $500 
including shipping (CONUS). Comes with a new VO mirror headset, front cable 
hanger, and misc. hardware.  

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:48:26 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Saddle + Seatpost are sold
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:46:02 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I'm gonna hold on the wheelset for now. Curious how they'll compare to my 
>> 24h roadie wheeset on the same bike...to be continued (?) 
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:13:20 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Crankset + BB is sold! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:01:13 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Forgot to mention, I'll be traveling this week so might not be able to 
 get anything out until June 8th. 

 On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:59:02 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I decided to part out the FW Evans build 
> .
>  
> Here are a list of items that are still left for sale. Prices include 
> shipping
>
>- 
>
>Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o 
>fenders MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the 
>headset out for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $670  
>- 
>
>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $68
>- 
>
>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $45
>- 
>
>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $65
>- 
>
>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes: $58
>- 
>
>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
>condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: (pending 
> sale) 
>$180
>- 
>
>Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $55
>- 
>
>Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but 
>works fine (pending sale) : $35
>- 
>
>Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
>chunka'foam: $115
>- 
>
>700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 
>hubs and Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you 
> want to 
>dabble with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $350
>- 
>
>WTB 32mm expanse tires: $75
>- 
>
>Waxwing Mudflaps: $35
>- 
>
>Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front 
>rack + Gino light mount. Very good condition: $280 
>
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[RBW] WTB: Raul Racer brakes in silver

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Would love to find a mildly used set of Paul Racer brakes in silver with 
the recessed mounts. May have parts to trade or cash.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: parts for upcoming Sam Hillborne build - 700c wheelset 32h, 2x crankset, brakes, bars

['Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have the stem for you if you want to email me direct

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:32:17 AM UTC-7 John Woo wrote:

> Hello folks, and happy Summer.
>
> I know bike parts can be scarce as hen's teeth, so I'm casting a wide net 
> for components for an upcoming 9-speed Sam Hillborne build:
>
> - 2x low/wide crankset
> - cantilever brakes and hangers
> - Choco or Billie bars
> - Nitto Tallux stem 12cm
> - 700c wheelset, 32h, Shimano, preferably in silver. I'd order a new set 
> using Velocity Dyad rims, to give you an idea of what I'm looking for.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver Brand 38t Chain Guard 110bcd

[Joe Bernard]

My 42 guards are gone, now whichever one of Leah or Bill DIDN'T sell their 
38 to Tim, holla at me. I need one!

Joe Bernard

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I think my HubbuHubbuH captain crankset came with one of those, and when I 
> swapped out the arms I ended up with a spare guard and steel ring.  I'll 
> check the stash.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 8:24:35 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> Tim, I think I have that... I don't know if it will say on the trouser 
>> guard, but I think the stock Clem L came with a 38t front ring and I wanted 
>> something harder to pedal and got a 42... I can look tomorrow.
>>
>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, I have a couple 42s I was planning to post here if you or anyone 
>>> else are interested. 
>>>
>>> For pics and a price chat email, or text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:04:04 PM UTC-7 Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:
>>>
 Hey!

 Anyone have a Silver Brand chainring guard for 38 teeth? Riv is sold 
 out. 

 Thanks!
 Tim



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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Andy and Kate,
Ditto on Dravo. A nice camp with plenty of room (and large bathroom, nicer 
than most). Check out the old graveyard and local history there.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va
 
On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 12:00:03 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Andy,
> My thoughts exactly.  A hotel for 2 nights and explore the bike and brew 
> spots in the area.  I love the museums there as well.  
> Kate
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:24:06 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> if starting from Pittsburgh late, I'd really put a plug  for getting 
>> yourself a better go of the first day by getting a room at a hotel in 
>> downtown (some really cool boutique offerings these days: Distrikt, The 
>> Industrialist, etc.) and have a nice dinner before setting out. Hotels in 
>> Homestead too, food's a bit chain-oriented in the area and it's ten miles 
>> down the path. 
>>
>> If camping, the first place I'd recommend is the Dravo Campsite next to 
>> the cemetery on the Youghigheny River and is 40 miles from the Point.   It 
>> is not accessible to cars which is a good thing in my mind as you depart 
>> the urban western end of the GAP. Less formal than others a bit farther 
>> along but provides opportunity to set up camp as you are comfortable, given 
>> arrangement of other campers. 
>>
>> Here is a site on the lower portion, maybe 200 yards off the trail, 
>> closer to the river (right in the image):
>> [image: 31E8CA4F-AAD6-4219-A19A-42252B9A471D_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 7:50:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>>> Kate 
>>>
>>> I believe the only direct PHL-PIT Amtrak train is the #43 Pennsylvanian 
>>> with dep/arr times of 1242 to 1959.   The Capitol Limited would be PHL to 
>>> DC on NE Regional, changing to the Capitol for DC to PIT.  They show 1445 
>>> dep PHL and 2358 PIT arrival.   Pittsburgh is roughly the mid point of the 
>>> DC to Chicago on the Capital.  Amtrak shows the Pennsylvanian allows 
>>> checked bicycle service meaning you need to box the bike.  The Capitol and 
>>> NE Regional trains 65, 66, 67 have carry on bicycle service which does not 
>>> require a box (Amtrak does a good business between Cumberland and DC/PIT 
>>> with the carry on for people riding the Western Maryland RR Trail).   
>>>
>>> The Pennsylvanian 2000 arrival would permit riding to the GAP in 
>>> McKeesport via the trails to Hot >> Mckeesport RR trail and beyond to a trail campsite, probably by .  Or 
>>> overnight in hotel in Pittsburgh or Homestead (on the trial).  The Capitol 
>>> 2358 arrival is challenging, although can head out to the trail via the 
>>> same route.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:37:39 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Andy,
 Amtrak has limited trains and routes, don't remember the details a year 
 later.  I do know that there was no availability to travel along the 
 northeast corridor.  New Jersey Transit is the only way we can take bikes 
 on the train.  Just did a ride last weekend allowing us to access North 
 Jersey trails and ride out the coast. Philly to Pittsburgh had options.  
 Check Amtrak site for details.
 I am definitely going to the Philly Bike Expo this year.  Hey.I'll 
 probably be riding there and bring my brand spanking new Platypus up to 
 the 
 Riv booth for show and tell!!!
 Kate-Trenton, NJ

 On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 9:22:35 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Do it Kate!
>
> Love the multi-mode (intermode if by train and bike?) travel to and 
> from a big multi day bike and camp. Does Amtrak have bike capacity other 
> than as luggage to/from Philadelphia? It'd be sweet if so. 
>
> Maybe I could pull together a carless plan for the Philly Bike Expo in 
> November from home. The RBW newsletter said they'll be going again. I 
> think 
> everyone's attention really surprised them and they realized that 
> appreciation 
> of their perspective isn't limited to the west coast, despite this 
> group and the calls they take from around the country. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing your awesome pics of your ride.  My husband and I 
>> had planned on this ride last year but the world shut down.  Now it's 
>> not 
>> going to happen for me for a bit.  We had a car free trip planned from 
>> Trenton, NJ where we were going to take NJ transit to Philly with our 
>> bikes 
>> and then Amtrak from 30th street station out to Pittsburgh with our 
>> bikes 
>> to the start.  Bike and camp all the way to DC and then take the train 
>> back 
>> to Philly and on home to Trenton.  No car.  We will make it happen 
>> eventually.  Maybe with my new Platypus!!!
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>
>> On Friday, 

[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver Brand 38t Chain Guard 110bcd

[Bill Lindsay]

I think my HubbuHubbuH captain crankset came with one of those, and when I 
swapped out the arms I ended up with a spare guard and steel ring.  I'll 
check the stash.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA



On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 8:24:35 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Tim, I think I have that... I don't know if it will say on the trouser 
> guard, but I think the stock Clem L came with a 38t front ring and I wanted 
> something harder to pedal and got a 42... I can look tomorrow.
>
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Tom, I have a couple 42s I was planning to post here if you or anyone 
>> else are interested. 
>>
>> For pics and a price chat email, or text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 2:04:04 PM UTC-7 Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:
>>
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> Anyone have a Silver Brand chainring guard for 38 teeth? Riv is sold 
>>> out. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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60cm Roadini complete in Denver:

https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/d/arvada-rivendell-roadini-60cm/7329913914.html

55cm Sam frameset also in Denver:

https://denver.craigslist.org/bik/d/arvada-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7324394707.html

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 9:00:40 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> A pic of the 57cm Romulus from post above
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-05-31 at 10.53.11 AM.png]
>
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:32:10 PM UTC-4 johanne...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Romulus
>> 57cm
>> $1200
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/184862704037?hash=item2b0aad01a5:g:vLsAAOSwwQxgs~JG
>>
>> I can't believe the Romulus posted above in SF Bay Area for $800 hasn't 
>> sold yet. Too roadish for my liking, but still so tempting!
>>
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 1:16:36 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I was young man riding centuries when that Wilbury first showed up on 
>>> Craigslist. 
>>>
>>> Joe "older" Bernard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 1:00:45 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 I think that Wilbury was purchased from Charlie in Suffield CT. It was 
 new when sold, looks like it still is.  

 On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 3:39:30 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Wilbury (the proto-Platypus!)
> 52cm
> $2500
> NYC
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-52cm-wilbury-rivendell-bicycle/732904.html
>
>
> Atlantis
> 58cm
> $1800
> New Lenox, IL
>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/bik/d/new-lenox-rivendell-atlantis/7328915293.html
>
>
>
>
> Joe Appaloosa
> 51cm
> $2600
>
> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/bik/d/san-diego-51-cm-rivendell-appaloosa/7328987566.html
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: parts for upcoming Sam Hillborne build - 700c wheelset 32h, 2x crankset, brakes, bars

[John Woo]

Hello folks, and happy Summer.

I know bike parts can be scarce as hen's teeth, so I'm casting a wide net
for components for an upcoming 9-speed Sam Hillborne build:

- 2x low/wide crankset
- cantilever brakes and hangers
- Choco or Billie bars
- Nitto Tallux stem 12cm
- 700c wheelset, 32h, Shimano, preferably in silver. I'd order a new set
using Velocity Dyad rims, to give you an idea of what I'm looking for.

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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Andy,
My thoughts exactly.  A hotel for 2 nights and explore the bike and brew 
spots in the area.  I love the museums there as well.  
Kate

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:24:06 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> if starting from Pittsburgh late, I'd really put a plug  for getting 
> yourself a better go of the first day by getting a room at a hotel in 
> downtown (some really cool boutique offerings these days: Distrikt, The 
> Industrialist, etc.) and have a nice dinner before setting out. Hotels in 
> Homestead too, food's a bit chain-oriented in the area and it's ten miles 
> down the path. 
>
> If camping, the first place I'd recommend is the Dravo Campsite next to 
> the cemetery on the Youghigheny River and is 40 miles from the Point.   It 
> is not accessible to cars which is a good thing in my mind as you depart 
> the urban western end of the GAP. Less formal than others a bit farther 
> along but provides opportunity to set up camp as you are comfortable, given 
> arrangement of other campers. 
>
> Here is a site on the lower portion, maybe 200 yards off the trail, closer 
> to the river (right in the image):
> [image: 31E8CA4F-AAD6-4219-A19A-42252B9A471D_1_105_c.jpeg]
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 7:50:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Kate 
>>
>> I believe the only direct PHL-PIT Amtrak train is the #43 Pennsylvanian 
>> with dep/arr times of 1242 to 1959.   The Capitol Limited would be PHL to 
>> DC on NE Regional, changing to the Capitol for DC to PIT.  They show 1445 
>> dep PHL and 2358 PIT arrival.   Pittsburgh is roughly the mid point of the 
>> DC to Chicago on the Capital.  Amtrak shows the Pennsylvanian allows 
>> checked bicycle service meaning you need to box the bike.  The Capitol and 
>> NE Regional trains 65, 66, 67 have carry on bicycle service which does not 
>> require a box (Amtrak does a good business between Cumberland and DC/PIT 
>> with the carry on for people riding the Western Maryland RR Trail).   
>>
>> The Pennsylvanian 2000 arrival would permit riding to the GAP in 
>> McKeesport via the trails to Hot > Mckeesport RR trail and beyond to a trail campsite, probably by .  Or 
>> overnight in hotel in Pittsburgh or Homestead (on the trial).  The Capitol 
>> 2358 arrival is challenging, although can head out to the trail via the 
>> same route.
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:37:39 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> Amtrak has limited trains and routes, don't remember the details a year 
>>> later.  I do know that there was no availability to travel along the 
>>> northeast corridor.  New Jersey Transit is the only way we can take bikes 
>>> on the train.  Just did a ride last weekend allowing us to access North 
>>> Jersey trails and ride out the coast. Philly to Pittsburgh had options.  
>>> Check Amtrak site for details.
>>> I am definitely going to the Philly Bike Expo this year.  Hey.I'll 
>>> probably be riding there and bring my brand spanking new Platypus up to the 
>>> Riv booth for show and tell!!!
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 9:22:35 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 Do it Kate!

 Love the multi-mode (intermode if by train and bike?) travel to and 
 from a big multi day bike and camp. Does Amtrak have bike capacity other 
 than as luggage to/from Philadelphia? It'd be sweet if so. 

 Maybe I could pull together a carless plan for the Philly Bike Expo in 
 November from home. The RBW newsletter said they'll be going again. I 
 think 
 everyone's attention really surprised them and they realized that 
 appreciation 
 of their perspective isn't limited to the west coast, despite this 
 group and the calls they take from around the country. 

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Thanks for sharing your awesome pics of your ride.  My husband and I 
> had planned on this ride last year but the world shut down.  Now it's not 
> going to happen for me for a bit.  We had a car free trip planned from 
> Trenton, NJ where we were going to take NJ transit to Philly with our 
> bikes 
> and then Amtrak from 30th street station out to Pittsburgh with our bikes 
> to the start.  Bike and camp all the way to DC and then take the train 
> back 
> to Philly and on home to Trenton.  No car.  We will make it happen 
> eventually.  Maybe with my new Platypus!!!
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That's great advice Paul. Still finalizing all the details of our 
>> trip and we were going to take the MARC out to Harpers Ferry and camp 
>> and 
>> bike home one of these Fridays as a test run for mileage. 
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 3:56:37 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

[RBW] Re: FS: 1 bikes worth of parts (FW Evans Saga VII)

[Andrew Turner]

Saddle + Seatpost are sold

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:46:02 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I'm gonna hold on the wheelset for now. Curious how they'll compare to my 
> 24h roadie wheeset on the same bike...to be continued (?) 
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:13:20 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Crankset + BB is sold! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:01:13 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot to mention, I'll be traveling this week so might not be able to 
>>> get anything out until June 8th. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:59:02 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 I decided to part out the FW Evans build 
 .
  
 Here are a list of items that are still left for sale. Prices include 
 shipping

- 

Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o 
fenders MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the 
headset out for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $670  
- 

60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $68
- 

45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $45
- 

Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $65
- 

Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes: $58
- 

Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: (pending 
 sale) 
$180
- 

Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $55
- 

Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but 
works fine (pending sale) : $35
- 

Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
chunka'foam: $115
- 

700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs 
and Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to 
dabble with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $350
- 

WTB 32mm expanse tires: $75
- 

Waxwing Mudflaps: $35
- 

Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front 
rack + Gino light mount. Very good condition: $280 



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[RBW] Re: FS: 1 bikes worth of parts (FW Evans Saga VII)

[Andrew Turner]

I'm gonna hold on the wheelset for now. Curious how they'll compare to my 
24h roadie wheeset on the same bike...to be continued (?) 

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:13:20 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Crankset + BB is sold! 
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:01:13 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention, I'll be traveling this week so might not be able to 
>> get anything out until June 8th. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:59:02 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I decided to part out the FW Evans build 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> Here are a list of items that are still left for sale. Prices include 
>>> shipping
>>>
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o 
>>>fenders MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the 
>>>headset out for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $670  
>>>- 
>>>
>>>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $68
>>>- 
>>>
>>>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $45
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $65
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes: $58
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
>>>condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: (pending sale) 
>>>$180
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $55
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but 
>>>works fine (pending sale) : $35
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
>>>chunka'foam: $115
>>>- 
>>>
>>>700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs 
>>>and Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to 
>>>dabble with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $350
>>>- 
>>>
>>>WTB 32mm expanse tires: $75
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Waxwing Mudflaps: $35
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front 
>>>rack + Gino light mount. Very good condition: $280 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1 bikes worth of parts (FW Evans Saga VII)

[Andrew Turner]

Crankset + BB is sold! 

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 8:01:13 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Forgot to mention, I'll be traveling this week so might not be able to get 
> anything out until June 8th. 
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:59:02 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I decided to part out the FW Evans build 
>> .
>>  
>> Here are a list of items that are still left for sale. Prices include 
>> shipping
>>
>>- 
>>
>>Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o 
>>fenders MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the 
>>headset out for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $670  
>>- 
>>
>>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $68
>>- 
>>
>>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $45
>>- 
>>
>>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $65
>>- 
>>
>>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes: $58
>>- 
>>
>>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
>>condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: (pending sale) 
>>$180
>>- 
>>
>>Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $55
>>- 
>>
>>Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but 
>>works fine (pending sale) : $35
>>- 
>>
>>Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
>>chunka'foam: $115
>>- 
>>
>>700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs 
>>and Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to 
>>dabble with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $350
>>- 
>>
>>WTB 32mm expanse tires: $75
>>- 
>>
>>Waxwing Mudflaps: $35
>>- 
>>
>>Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front 
>>rack + Gino light mount. Very good condition: $280 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1 bikes worth of parts (FW Evans Saga VII)

[Andrew Turner]

Forgot to mention, I'll be traveling this week so might not be able to get 
anything out until June 8th. 

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:59:02 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I decided to part out the FW Evans build 
> .
>  
> Here are a list of items that are still left for sale. Prices include 
> shipping
>
>- 
>
>Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o fenders 
>MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the headset out 
>for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $670  
>- 
>
>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $68
>- 
>
>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $45
>- 
>
>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $65
>- 
>
>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes: $58
>- 
>
>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
>condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: (pending sale) 
>$180
>- 
>
>Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $55
>- 
>
>Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but works 
>fine (pending sale) : $35
>- 
>
>Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
>chunka'foam: $115
>- 
>
>700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs 
>and Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to 
>dabble with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $350
>- 
>
>WTB 32mm expanse tires: $75
>- 
>
>Waxwing Mudflaps: $35
>- 
>
>Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front rack 
>+ Gino light mount. Very good condition: $280 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 1 bikes worth of parts (FW Evans Saga VII)

[Andrew Turner]

I decided to part out the FW Evans build 
.
 
Here are a list of items that are still left for sale. Prices include 
shipping

   - 
   
   Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o fenders 
   MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the headset out 
   for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $670  
   - 
   
   60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $68
   - 
   
   45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $45
   - 
   
   Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $65
   - 
   
   Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes: $58
   - 
   
   Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
   condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: (pending sale) 
   $180
   - 
   
   Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $55
   - 
   
   Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but works 
   fine (pending sale) : $35
   - 
   
   Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
   chunka'foam: $115
   - 
   
   700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs and 
   Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to dabble 
   with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $350
   - 
   
   WTB 32mm expanse tires: $75
   - 
   
   Waxwing Mudflaps: $35
   - 
   
   Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front rack + 
   Gino light mount. Very good condition: $280 
   

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[RBW] Re: FS: Complete FW Evans build for the tallish riders

[Andrew Turner]

Pedals, shifters+pods, cassette, front mech, and moon units are spoken for. 
I'm gonna repost the updated list with adjusted prices to include 
shipping.  

Cheers! 

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 7:30:56 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Actually...I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and sell off the bike part by 
> part. Here's what's available, prices do not include shipping. I'll be out 
> of town this week so won't be able to ship anything out until June 8th. 
>
>
>- 
>
>Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o fenders 
>MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the headset out 
>for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $600  
>- 
>
>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $65
>- 
>
>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $35
>- 
>
>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $60
>- 
>
>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes w/ gold Paul Moon Units: $60
>- 
>
>Rivendell Silver2 bar end shifters + pods: $90
>- 
>
>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
>condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: $170
>- 
>
>Spank Oozy platform pedals + extra pins + pin tool: $80
>- 
>
>Ultegra front mech: $25 
>- 
>
>Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $50
>- 
>
>11-34 9 speed Sram cassette: $25 
>- 
>
>Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but works 
>fine) : $35
>- 
>
>Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
>chunka'foam: $100
>- 
>
>700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs 
>and Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to 
>dabble with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $300
>- 
>
>WTB 32mm expanse tires: $70
>- 
>
>Waxwing Mudflaps: $30
>- 
>
>Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front rack 
>+ Gino light mount: $280 
>
>
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 6:41:16 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Bumping the price to $1350! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:32:39 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> *TL;DR: *
>>> *Pictures  *
>>> *63cm ST (C-C) 58cm TT (C-C) *
>>> *Asking price: $1650 (includes shipping (CONUS)) *
>>>
>>> This is a lovely FW Evans touring, commuting, randonneuring bicycle, 
>>> heavily Riv’ed out. The frameset is of an unknown year (late 80s, 90s?)  
>>> with a fresh new powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge made by 
>>> yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo 
>>> Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons 
>>> for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but 
>>> helpful stuff. I’ll try to cover every part of the build and what’s 
>>> included but if I miss something, just reach out! 
>>>
>>>
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Frame size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT
>>>- 
>>>
>>>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4) 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Green Grips brown cotton bar tape
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes w/ gold Paul Moon Units
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Rivendell Silver2 bar end shifters 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Spank Oozy platform pedals 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Grand Cru 118mm bottom bracket 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Ultegra front mech 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Shimano Deore XT rear mech 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>11-34 9 speed Sram cassette 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>9 speed chain 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>VO cables + housing 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Brooks B17 Special (black) 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs and Sapim Race 
>>>spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to dabble with 
>>>tubeless.  
>>>- 
>>>
>>>WTB 32mm tires set up with tubes but are really easy to set up 
>>>tubeless. I didn’t even need an air compressor.  
>>>- 
>>>
>>>VO smooth aluminum fenders w/ Waxwing mudflaps
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Nitto M12 front rack + Gino light mount
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips  
>>>
>>>
>>> Cables, chain, and bar tape are brand new, wheelset is also new with 
>>> maybe 2 miles of use. A fully rideable bike and then some! It’s a lovely 
>>> ride, very smooth and confident that loves a leisure pace. I’ll include 
>>> some extra tubes with the bike as well. I’m sad to see it go but I’ve been 
>>> content with my road bike for some time and would rather build up a more 
>>> practical grocery 

[RBW] Re: FS: Complete FW Evans build for the tallish riders

[Andrew Turner]

A few things have been sold(red) or are pending (blue): I went ahead and 
adjusted the prices to include shipping as well. 

   - 
   
   Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o fenders 
   MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the headset out 
   for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $600  
   - 
   
   60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $65
   - 
   
   45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $35
   - 
   
   Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $60
   - 
   
   Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes:$50 
   - 
   
   Paul Moon Units: (Offer pending) 
   - 
   
   Rivendell Silver2 bar end shifters + pods: $90
   - 
   
   Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
   condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: $170
   - 
   
   Spank Oozy platform pedals + extra pins + pin tool: $80
   - 
   
   Ultegra front mech: $25 
   - 
   
   Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $50
   - 
   
   11-34 9 speed Sram cassette: $25 
   - 
   
   Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but works 
   fine) : $35
   - 
   
   Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
   chunka'foam: $100
   - 
   
   700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs and 
   Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to dabble 
   with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $300
   - 
   
   WTB 32mm expanse tires: $70
   - 
   
   Waxwing Mudflaps: $30
   - 
   
   Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front rack + 
   Gino light mount: $280 
   

On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 7:30:56 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Actually...I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and sell off the bike part by 
> part. Here's what's available, prices do not include shipping. I'll be out 
> of town this week so won't be able to ship anything out until June 8th. 
>
>
>- 
>
>Frameset, size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT, clearnace for 35mm tires w/o fenders 
>MAX, powdercoat/custom decals + headbadge, (I'm gonna swap the headset out 
>for a brand new mirror finish VO one) : $600  
>- 
>
>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4), (like new) : $65
>- 
>
>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar, (like new): $35
>- 
>
>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled (like new): $60
>- 
>
>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes w/ gold Paul Moon Units: $60
>- 
>
>Rivendell Silver2 bar end shifters + pods: $90
>- 
>
>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset w/ 175mm cranks + brass caps, 46/30, great 
>condition, I can throw in the Grand Cru 118mm BB as well: $170
>- 
>
>Spank Oozy platform pedals + extra pins + pin tool: $80
>- 
>
>Ultegra front mech: $25 
>- 
>
>Shimano Deore XT rear mech: $50
>- 
>
>11-34 9 speed Sram cassette: $25 
>- 
>
>Silver 27.0 Ritchey/Nitto normal setback seatpost (beausaged but works 
>fine) : $35
>- 
>
>Brooks B17 Special black, well worn but plenty of life left with a 
>chunka'foam: $100
>- 
>
>700c wheelset: Pacenti Brevet rims (700c) laced to Shimano 105 hubs 
>and Sapim Race spokes. Tubeless tape has been installed if you want to 
>dabble with tubeless. Brand New with a whole 2 miles on them: $300
>- 
>
>WTB 32mm expanse tires: $70
>- 
>
>Waxwing Mudflaps: $30
>- 
>
>Ruthworks 8” Ultralight Randonneuring bag w/ RA clips + M12 front rack 
>+ Gino light mount: $280 
>
>
> On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 6:41:16 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Bumping the price to $1350! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:32:39 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> *TL;DR: *
>>> *Pictures  *
>>> *63cm ST (C-C) 58cm TT (C-C) *
>>> *Asking price: $1650 (includes shipping (CONUS)) *
>>>
>>> This is a lovely FW Evans touring, commuting, randonneuring bicycle, 
>>> heavily Riv’ed out. The frameset is of an unknown year (late 80s, 90s?)  
>>> with a fresh new powdercoat, custom decals and brass head badge made by 
>>> yours truly. The frame had some modifications done to it by Amigo 
>>> Frameworks here in Nashville, including but not limited to some brazeons 
>>> for fenders, a pump peg, extra waterbottle cage brazeon, etc. Small but 
>>> helpful stuff. I’ll try to cover every part of the build and what’s 
>>> included but if I miss something, just reach out! 
>>>
>>>
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Frame size (C-C): 63ST, 58TT
>>>- 
>>>
>>>60cm Nitto Tallux stem (25.4) 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>45cm Nitto B135 handlebar 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Green Grips brown cotton bar tape
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Dia-Compe 980 Canti brakes w/ gold Paul Moon Units
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Rivendell Silver2 bar end shifters 
>>>- 
>>>
>>>Grand Cru 50.4 crankset 

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

[ascpgh]

Benz, "1X" is funny to me, one of my favorite FDs for $15 or less is a 
SunTour X-1.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


On Monday, May 31, 2021 at 1:03:36 AM UTC-4 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> You guys are overthinking the suicide rod shifter for front derailleurs. 
> Just go 1X! :)
>
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 2:08:11 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> "(P)ulled enough cable" - you're all overthinking this. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/no-10-april-28-or-so-rughut
>>
>> Not that I think this is going to happen, but I feel I must note that GP 
>> and I have been discussing rod-lever (AKA "suicide") front derailleurs for 
>> several months, ever since I raised the subject with him at RivHQ and he 
>> told me that he'd sent the 50s Huret one posted in the Blahg to some dude 
>> in Australia for possible cloning. It came back assembled in the wrong 
>> order, and no longer worked. I told him that I had one (currently installed 
>> on an early 50s French racer), and took it home to reassemble it correctly.
>>
>> Aside from the economic practicalities of the expense of tooling, Grant's 
>> theory seems to be that the big problem with lever derailleurs is the 
>> "suicide" branding. He also complained again about the lower toothcount 
>> limitations of the cage, until I demonstrated to him that the flat mounting 
>> piece attaching the rod to the frame clamp (visible only in the first 
>> take-apart photo) allows the cage to pivot the angle to reach smaller 
>> chainrings (Huret's 1956 catalog: "Front derailleurs, cable control or 
>> rigid control, are used for competition and touring and allow the use of 
>> double chainrings."). My bigger issue is that the levers aren't long enough 
>> to reach on bigger frames, but Simplex had a competing rod-lever shifter 
>> called the Randonneur whose lever arm was detachable, so you could at least 
>> theoretically switch to a longer arm.
>>
>> Grant's further theorized that if you changed the angle of the track on 
>> the central rod, you could get a longer travel range with the same amount 
>> of lever movement. Maybe!
>>
>> I'm just saying. The amount of cable pull is only a problem if there's a 
>> cable. There are other ways of addressing the issue.
>>
>> Peter "let's drag everybody back to the early 50s kicking and screaming; 
>> RH is about to release their Nivex RD clone" Adler
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 12:28:28 PM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>
>>> Neat. 
>>>
>>> But Benz,
>>>   
>>> How does the stop help? By the time the lever reaches the position, 
>>> either it has pulled enough cable for the desired shift or not. Just 
>>> because I stop it doesn't mean I've achieved my shift. I write this being 
>>> well sure you are right and I am missing something.
>>>
>>> 180 degrees shouldn't affect the home position, right, because where the 
>>> lever centers is separate from how much throw it needs to shift through the 
>>> whole casette, or no? Ah, but the stop you linked to sets the home position?
>>> But/also if you are saying 120 degrees is what you find comfortable, 
>>> then I get that. Although I am confused as to why it is desirable to shift 
>>> both downtube levers with the same hand. Ah, I get it; its because I'm 
>>> holding my burrito in my other hand :-D
>>>
>>> The 120 degrees calls to mind a hack from someone on this list to and a 
>>> strip of brass on the shifter, thereby increasing its diameter and cable 
>>> pull (pull ratio = linear cable moved per degrees moved of the lever, no?). 
>>> I think I prefer more throw/degrees, bc it means wider degree ranges for 
>>> each cog/shift/sweetspot. But the idea is a good one. If the "spool" the 
>>> cable wraps onto could be adjustable or swappable, and there were no stops 
>>> or adjustable stops, then we could set our desired pull/-ratio and total 
>>> degree throw, no? Forget about indexing though I assume. 
>>>
>>> Anyways, I'm complicating things. But nice to discuss and understand and 
>>> fiddle.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Matthew
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:07:24 AM UTC-7 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, 
>>> CA wrote:
>>>
 On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 8:33:18 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:

> Couple things in Will's post that stood out for me:
>
> 1. Will said he wasn't happy with the way a Claris front derailer 
> friction shifted. I've used the Claris in double and triple 
> configurations, 
> friction shifted (bar ends), 8 speed without any problems. Maybe I 
> missing 
> out on something by not using a different der? I have a Suntour ARX on 
> the 
> way so. . .
>

 Do you have the same version? Shimano reuses the same model name to 
 differentiate their lineup, even if the actual derailleurs themselves have 
 changed quite a bit throughout the years. For example, the 8-speed XTR 
 from 
 the 90s is a completely different beast than the Di2 XTR of 

[RBW] Re: Front derailers that won't friction shift

[ascpgh]

Don't need scary nomenclature, "suicide" derailleur, to ruffle the masses.

I actually had a guy (on a CFRP bike obviously with integrated shifters and 
under 30 spokes total holding his 6" section rims to his hubs) look at my 
bike with bar end shifters and proclaim them unsafe and that ride rules 
should prevent such dangerous things from being operated amongst all the 
"safe" riders and their equipment. "He has to move his hands away from the 
brakes to change gears". No shift, Sherlock. 

Andy Cheatham 
(Look, Ma...!)
Pittsburgh


On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 5:08:11 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> "(P)ulled enough cable" - you're all overthinking this. 
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/no-10-april-28-or-so-rughut
>
> Not that I think this is going to happen, but I feel I must note that GP 
> and I have been discussing rod-lever (AKA "suicide") front derailleurs for 
> several months, ever since I raised the subject with him at RivHQ and he 
> told me that he'd sent the 50s Huret one posted in the Blahg to some dude 
> in Australia for possible cloning. It came back assembled in the wrong 
> order, and no longer worked. I told him that I had one (currently installed 
> on an early 50s French racer), and took it home to reassemble it correctly.
>
> Aside from the economic practicalities of the expense of tooling, Grant's 
> theory seems to be that the big problem with lever derailleurs is the 
> "suicide" branding. He also complained again about the lower toothcount 
> limitations of the cage, until I demonstrated to him that the flat mounting 
> piece attaching the rod to the frame clamp (visible only in the first 
> take-apart photo) allows the cage to pivot the angle to reach smaller 
> chainrings (Huret's 1956 catalog: "Front derailleurs, cable control or 
> rigid control, are used for competition and touring and allow the use of 
> double chainrings."). My bigger issue is that the levers aren't long enough 
> to reach on bigger frames, but Simplex had a competing rod-lever shifter 
> called the Randonneur whose lever arm was detachable, so you could at least 
> theoretically switch to a longer arm.
>
> Grant's further theorized that if you changed the angle of the track on 
> the central rod, you could get a longer travel range with the same amount 
> of lever movement. Maybe!
>
> I'm just saying. The amount of cable pull is only a problem if there's a 
> cable. There are other ways of addressing the issue.
>
> Peter "let's drag everybody back to the early 50s kicking and screaming; 
> RH is about to release their Nivex RD clone" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 12:28:28 PM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Neat. 
>>
>> But Benz,
>>   
>> How does the stop help? By the time the lever reaches the position, 
>> either it has pulled enough cable for the desired shift or not. Just 
>> because I stop it doesn't mean I've achieved my shift. I write this being 
>> well sure you are right and I am missing something.
>>
>> 180 degrees shouldn't affect the home position, right, because where the 
>> lever centers is separate from how much throw it needs to shift through the 
>> whole casette, or no? Ah, but the stop you linked to sets the home position?
>> But/also if you are saying 120 degrees is what you find comfortable, then 
>> I get that. Although I am confused as to why it is desirable to shift both 
>> downtube levers with the same hand. Ah, I get it; its because I'm holding 
>> my burrito in my other hand :-D
>>
>> The 120 degrees calls to mind a hack from someone on this list to and a 
>> strip of brass on the shifter, thereby increasing its diameter and cable 
>> pull (pull ratio = linear cable moved per degrees moved of the lever, no?). 
>> I think I prefer more throw/degrees, bc it means wider degree ranges for 
>> each cog/shift/sweetspot. But the idea is a good one. If the "spool" the 
>> cable wraps onto could be adjustable or swappable, and there were no stops 
>> or adjustable stops, then we could set our desired pull/-ratio and total 
>> degree throw, no? Forget about indexing though I assume. 
>>
>> Anyways, I'm complicating things. But nice to discuss and understand and 
>> fiddle.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:07:24 AM UTC-7 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 8:33:18 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>>>
 Couple things in Will's post that stood out for me:

 1. Will said he wasn't happy with the way a Claris front derailer 
 friction shifted. I've used the Claris in double and triple 
 configurations, 
 friction shifted (bar ends), 8 speed without any problems. Maybe I missing 
 out on something by not using a different der? I have a Suntour ARX on the 
 way so. . .

>>>
>>> Do you have the same version? Shimano reuses the same model name to 
>>> differentiate their lineup, even if the actual derailleurs themselves have 
>>>