Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Matthew Williams]

Protovelo
58cm
$1399
NYC
https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-rivendell-bicycle-works/7340662130.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Justin]

For Michael Baquerizo
Appaloosa with 700x2.25 Maxxis Ikon and 700x2.2 RH Fleecer Ridge

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On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:04:02 PM UTC-4 bicycler...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks, Bones! Yours is a beaut, too. It fits right in among that field of 
> flowers! 
> I’ll be camping on mine next week so I will get to see how it likes having 
> weight on it. 
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:08 AM Collin A  wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I've snuck in some schwalbe g-one 650x55 tires in the fork with ample 
>> vertical space, but a bit tight near the legs/crown to where I wouldn't 
>> ride it in muddy conditions. There is more room in the rear, but I think 
>> the limiting spot was the near the brake bridge...this was also with the 
>> slightly larger 650x2.35 g-one speeds. See attached (bike has since been 
>> switched to drops, cantis and 650x50 RH slicks):
>> [image: Capture.PNG]
>> Collin, If its always a hot can you call it a heat wave, in Sacramento
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[RBW] Re: anyone push their altus (m310) to a 36t rear cog?

[Joe Bernard]

Lefebeaver, I'll add to the chain questions with a shifter one: Are you 
using friction or index? Your problem on the second-biggest rear cog sounds 
like the pulley wheels are landing slightly off-center and towards the 
biggest cog, which would create that crunchy sound. Like you're going to 
get that crunch when shifting to the big cog, and the chain is already 
halfway there and crunching before you start the shift. 

I've had this exact issue with an Altus and indexing, it's not a terribly 
precise derailleur for clicky-shifting. This theory is moot if you use 
friction and can't trim that sound out. 

Joe Bernard

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:59:32 AM UTC-7 Lefebeaver wrote:

> My Atlantis is set up with an Altus, 24-34-44 up front, and 11-34 8-spd in 
> back. I set up the chain length according to guidelines I got from Riv, but 
> my Altus grinds on the second biggest gear in back when shifting to the 
> innermost one - it scrapes on the gear on its way up and makes a horrendous 
> noise, and although it'll run in that second gear, it's clunky so I rarely 
> use it, but the biggest gear works fine once you get up there. I'm 
> wondering if anyone else has had this issue - should I add some more links 
> to the chain? I ultimately wish to go bigger in back - was on a loaded dirt 
> road tour in Brazil where there were some hills I didn't have a low enough 
> gear to climb and I had to walk it up, while my companions on mountain 
> bikes just went grinding up in their 1X setups. Thinking I need to get a 
> goat link for that next step to a larger cassette in back; what is the 
> guidance for choosing chain length with a link?
>
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 4:34:55 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>
>> Same here.  My Atlantis has a 24/34/44 triple, and the Altus handles it 
>> fine.  IIRC, the Altus is less than $30 at Rivendell (if they have them to 
>> sell).
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:01:46 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>>> I ran an Altus on my Atlantis with a 12-36 9 speed cassette and a 
>>> 42/34/19 triple for a week on the GDMBR and had no troubles other than 
>>> being laughed at by another cyclist for my selection of a rear derailleur.  
>>> What can I say - it worked.  I decided to switch to the Altus for that ride 
>>> because I had it and it has amazing chain wrap, which I thought would be 
>>> desirable with that 19t granny.  It has been two years now and it is still 
>>> on the bike.
>>>
>>> Bill S
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 8:51:11 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 What Doug said, it should be fine, Shimano rear derailers are usually 
 good for pushing a couple teeth bigger than listed. I believe - this is 
 math stuff I don't fully understand - some of the concern comes from if 
 you're running a wide-range triple crank *and *a big cassette..at some 
 point in there things get screwy. But most of us don't run triples that 
 way 
 and you may not even have a big ring, just guard-middle-small. I say give 
 it a whirl! 

 Joe Bernard

 On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:20:31 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> bought a 11-36t cassette for my new appa and already have some altus' 
> that i'd like to use ( i guess i have back up shimano rear in case they 
> dont) but i realized it's supposed to be 34t max. anyone get it past 
> that?  
> tried looking elsewhere to no avail.
>
> keep seeing altus' on riv builds and it's growing on me aesthetically, 
> in a riv sort of way. my back up is an m952 xtr rear. not a huge fan of 
> the 
> charcoal color so i'm not super excited to use it, but i guess i can get 
> over that pretty quickly
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Johnny Alien]

Plus I just picked up a Saluki. Just waiting on it to ship to me.

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 9:12:42 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I would have bid but I don't think it would be a great fit size wise.  
> Shame because it went low!
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:34:03 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Bid on it, Johnny! I love the color, I have a soft spot for early 
>> solid-color Rivs with the barely visible speared Rivendell decal..very 
>> monochrome and anti-flash. Also love the period "from the catalogue" parts: 
>> Phil 6-speed rear hub and Suntour front, stem shifters. It doesn't get any 
>> more early Riv than this! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> 55 makes sense based on the photos.  I was looking at the size in the 
>>> "specifics" section.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards 
 this is a 55 or 56cm frame. 

 Joe Bernard

 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
> couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:
>
>> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very 
>> nice early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  
>> I've 
>> got one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great 
>> gravel, bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with 
>> racks, 
>> bags and a nice history.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Johnny Alien]

I would have bid but I don't think it would be a great fit size wise.  
Shame because it went low!

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 4:34:03 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Bid on it, Johnny! I love the color, I have a soft spot for early 
> solid-color Rivs with the barely visible speared Rivendell decal..very 
> monochrome and anti-flash. Also love the period "from the catalogue" parts: 
> Phil 6-speed rear hub and Suntour front, stem shifters. It doesn't get any 
> more early Riv than this! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> 55 makes sense based on the photos.  I was looking at the size in the 
>> "specifics" section.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards this 
>>> is a 55 or 56cm frame. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
 couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.

 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:

> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very 
> nice early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  
> I've 
> got one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great 
> gravel, bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with 
> racks, 
> bags and a nice history.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>


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[RBW] Re: anyone push their altus (m310) to a 36t rear cog?

[dougP]

Lefebeaver:

Is your Atlantis one of the newer ones with longer chainstays?  Mine is an 
'03 with IIRC 45 cm chainstays.  I always install chains as they come, with 
no length adjustment.  The longer stays where you have to add chain may 
require some care.  

dougP

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 7:57:48 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Sound like the chain is too long, and/or the B screw (body angle screw) 
> needs to be turned in. Turning the B screw in (clockwise) increases the 
> distance between the derailleur and the cogs.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 9:59:32 AM UTC-4 Lefebeaver wrote:
>
>> My Atlantis is set up with an Altus, 24-34-44 up front, and 11-34 8-spd 
>> in back. I set up the chain length according to guidelines I got from Riv, 
>> but my Altus grinds on the second biggest gear in back when shifting to the 
>> innermost one - it scrapes on the gear on its way up and makes a horrendous 
>> noise, and although it'll run in that second gear, it's clunky so I rarely 
>> use it, but the biggest gear works fine once you get up there. I'm 
>> wondering if anyone else has had this issue - should I add some more links 
>> to the chain? I ultimately wish to go bigger in back - was on a loaded dirt 
>> road tour in Brazil where there were some hills I didn't have a low enough 
>> gear to climb and I had to walk it up, while my companions on mountain 
>> bikes just went grinding up in their 1X setups. Thinking I need to get a 
>> goat link for that next step to a larger cassette in back; what is the 
>> guidance for choosing chain length with a link?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 4:34:55 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Same here.  My Atlantis has a 24/34/44 triple, and the Altus handles it 
>>> fine.  IIRC, the Altus is less than $30 at Rivendell (if they have them to 
>>> sell).
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:01:46 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>>
 I ran an Altus on my Atlantis with a 12-36 9 speed cassette and a 
 42/34/19 triple for a week on the GDMBR and had no troubles other than 
 being laughed at by another cyclist for my selection of a rear derailleur. 
  
 What can I say - it worked.  I decided to switch to the Altus for that 
 ride 
 because I had it and it has amazing chain wrap, which I thought would be 
 desirable with that 19t granny.  It has been two years now and it is still 
 on the bike.

 Bill S
 San Diego

 On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 8:51:11 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> What Doug said, it should be fine, Shimano rear derailers are usually 
> good for pushing a couple teeth bigger than listed. I believe - this is 
> math stuff I don't fully understand - some of the concern comes from if 
> you're running a wide-range triple crank *and *a big cassette..at 
> some point in there things get screwy. But most of us don't run triples 
> that way and you may not even have a big ring, just guard-middle-small. I 
> say give it a whirl! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:20:31 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> bought a 11-36t cassette for my new appa and already have some altus' 
>> that i'd like to use ( i guess i have back up shimano rear in case they 
>> dont) but i realized it's supposed to be 34t max. anyone get it past 
>> that?  
>> tried looking elsewhere to no avail.
>>
>> keep seeing altus' on riv builds and it's growing on me 
>> aesthetically, in a riv sort of way. my back up is an m952 xtr rear. not 
>> a 
>> huge fan of the charcoal color so i'm not super excited to use it, but i 
>> guess i can get over that pretty quickly
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Albatross Bars and DD Stem

[Doug H.]

I have an Albatross Heat Treated Aluminum handlebar for sale. Mounted to 
stem so some scratches but never ridden or had grips installed. Also 
selling a *black* Nitto 10 cm Dirt Drop stem 26.0 clamp. Stem also mounted 
on bike but not ridden. I bought these from Analog Cycles but have decided 
to go with a different cockpit setup for my Clem.

Albatross Bar $65 plus shipping.
Nitto Dirt Drop 10 cm $ 65 plus shipping.
Both for $120 plus shipping.

Photos in here .

Doug
Athens, Ga.

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Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Steven Sweedler]

Agreed a beautiful All Rounder, nice find, Steve

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 6:31 PM John in PDX  wrote:

> Agree, fairly low price for all included, and for an early model.  Here's
> one I've shared before, picked up last year around labor day.  Single color
> anti-flash...
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:44:51 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Sold for $1267 + 150 shipping. That's a CRAZY low price. Yikes!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 1:34:03 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Bid on it, Johnny! I love the color, I have a soft spot for early
>>> solid-color Rivs with the barely visible speared Rivendell decal..very
>>> monochrome and anti-flash. Also love the period "from the catalogue" parts:
>>> Phil 6-speed rear hub and Suntour front, stem shifters. It doesn't get any
>>> more early Riv than this!
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 55 makes sense based on the photos.  I was looking at the size in the
 "specifics" section.

 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards
> this is a 55 or 56cm frame.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I
>> couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very
>>> nice early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  
>>> I've
>>> got one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great
>>> gravel, bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with 
>>> racks,
>>> bags and a nice history.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] All Rounder, early on on eBay

[David Hays]

Beautiful bike John.

David

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 6:31 PM, John in PDX  wrote:
> 
> Agree, fairly low price for all included, and for an early model.  Here's one 
> I've shared before, picked up last year around labor day.  Single color 
> anti-flash...
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:44:51 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Sold for $1267 + 150 shipping. That's a CRAZY low price. Yikes!
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 1:34:03 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Bid on it, Johnny! I love the color, I have a soft spot for early solid-color 
> Rivs with the barely visible speared Rivendell decal..very monochrome and 
> anti-flash. Also love the period "from the catalogue" parts: Phil 6-speed 
> rear hub and Suntour front, stem shifters. It doesn't get any more early Riv 
> than this! 
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> 55 makes sense based on the photos.  I was looking at the size in the 
> "specifics" section.
> 
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards this is a 
> 55 or 56cm frame. 
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
> couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.
> 
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:
> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very nice 
> early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  I've got 
> one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great gravel, 
> bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with racks, bags and 
> a nice history.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>  
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Joe Bernard]

Sold for $1267 + 150 shipping. That's a CRAZY low price. Yikes!



On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 1:34:03 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Bid on it, Johnny! I love the color, I have a soft spot for early 
> solid-color Rivs with the barely visible speared Rivendell decal..very 
> monochrome and anti-flash. Also love the period "from the catalogue" parts: 
> Phil 6-speed rear hub and Suntour front, stem shifters. It doesn't get any 
> more early Riv than this! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> 55 makes sense based on the photos.  I was looking at the size in the 
>> "specifics" section.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards this 
>>> is a 55 or 56cm frame. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
 couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.

 On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:

> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very 
> nice early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  
> I've 
> got one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great 
> gravel, bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with 
> racks, 
> bags and a nice history.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Giro Rumble, discrete colorway, size 10 1/2 American-equivalent

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks again, all. I've found what ought to work well. The nearest LBS sold
me a size 44.5 pair of Specialized "2FO Roost Clip" shoes that are
discreetly designed and colored, flat-bottomed with SPD cleat well, have
wide toe box, and are lace-up to comfortably accommodate both thicker
winter socks and thin summer socks or bare feet, and are only $130.00. They
get decent reviews, the one real negative remark I saw in a quick review
search being that they are too flexible for best power transfer. For my
use, which will certainly be light use, flexible is good, and they're no
more so than the Five Tens I also own.  The only thing I don't like about
the shoes is the silly name.

Someone suggested Five-Ten flat bottom shoes. I did buy a pair of these for
the clips and straps on the Monocog, but after considering clips and straps
for other bikes, as well as the MKS QR pedals, I decided the easiest and
cheapest thing to do, with the least compromise of to comfort and
simplicity all around, was to buy a pair of shoes like this that I can use
with all my bikes (even the clips and straps on the Monocog, as I
discovered).

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Joe Bernard]

Bid on it, Johnny! I love the color, I have a soft spot for early 
solid-color Rivs with the barely visible speared Rivendell decal..very 
monochrome and anti-flash. Also love the period "from the catalogue" parts: 
Phil 6-speed rear hub and Suntour front, stem shifters. It doesn't get any 
more early Riv than this! 

Joe Bernard

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:19:47 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> 55 makes sense based on the photos.  I was looking at the size in the 
> "specifics" section.
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards this 
>> is a 55 or 56cm frame. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
>>> couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:
>>>
 Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very 
 nice early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  I've 
 got one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great 
 gravel, bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with 
 racks, 
 bags and a nice history.


 https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[David Hallerman]

And this Peter Mooney in blue and white is just exquisite!

https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/nashua-peter-mooney-road-bicycle-56cm/7334106031.html


On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:16 PM David Hallerman 
wrote:

> I like this Heron, but not ready to buy another.
>
>
> https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-heron-rivendell/7327533955.html
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:58 PM Charlie R  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Prices are increasing - note the price for this 60 cm Cheviot eBay sale -
>> $3200+ shipping..  Almost makes $3500 price seem in the ball park.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203489313172?nma=true=SZFNCOL2PFVc63cY5IP%252Fbt9l9Sg%253D_cvip=true=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 3:06:20 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> - "Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build." -
>>>
>>> It is indeed, and these fillet frames are astonishing live in person.
>>> Despite his bizarre approach he may get that money for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:33:23 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build.
 Doug

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> In this market with that out-of-stock Riv he may actually get it, but
> if I ever sell my Susie remind me not to preemptively call potential 
> buyers
> low-balling douchebags. Sheesh!
>
> "Please don’t contract me if you don’t have $3,500.
> I would rather sit and stare at it as a work of art than deal with
> low-balling douchebags."
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 10:33:08 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Wishful thinking on the price.
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM, Matthew Williams <
>> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wolbis Slugstone/Susie W. Longbolts
>> 56cm
>> $3500
>> Emeryville, CA
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-wolbis-slugstone/7339629866.html
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[David Hallerman]

I like this Heron, but not ready to buy another.

https://providence.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-smithfield-heron-rivendell/7327533955.html


On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:58 PM Charlie R  wrote:

>
>
> Prices are increasing - note the price for this 60 cm Cheviot eBay sale -
> $3200+ shipping..  Almost makes $3500 price seem in the ball park.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203489313172?nma=true=SZFNCOL2PFVc63cY5IP%252Fbt9l9Sg%253D_cvip=true=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 3:06:20 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> - "Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build." -
>>
>> It is indeed, and these fillet frames are astonishing live in person.
>> Despite his bizarre approach he may get that money for it.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:33:23 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed Joe. But, damn that's a nice build.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 2:10 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 In this market with that out-of-stock Riv he may actually get it, but
 if I ever sell my Susie remind me not to preemptively call potential buyers
 low-balling douchebags. Sheesh!

 "Please don’t contract me if you don’t have $3,500.
 I would rather sit and stare at it as a work of art than deal with
 low-balling douchebags."

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> Wishful thinking on the price.
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM, Matthew Williams <
> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wolbis Slugstone/Susie W. Longbolts
> 56cm
> $3500
> Emeryville, CA
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-wolbis-slugstone/7339629866.html
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[RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Johnny Alien]

55 makes sense based on the photos.  I was looking at the size in the 
"specifics" section.

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards this 
> is a 55 or 56cm frame. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
>> couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very nice 
>>> early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  I've got 
>>> one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great gravel, 
>>> bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with racks, bags 
>>> and a nice history.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>>>
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[RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Joe Bernard]

The description says 54cm C-to-C ST, 57 TT. By Riv sizing standards this is 
a 55 or 56cm frame. 

Joe Bernard

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 10:10:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
> couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:
>
>> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very nice 
>> early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  I've got 
>> one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great gravel, 
>> bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with racks, bags 
>> and a nice history.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sacramento S240 on June 28th

[Clark Fitzgerald]

3 riders have expressed interest, but I'd be happy to have more.

The temperature forecast is 101. Last week I rode part of the route when it 
was over 100, and it's fine, even nice if you keep jumping in the river 
with your clothes on so they stay wet and cool you down.
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 2:02:10 PM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> You're invited for a Sacramento S24O campout at Beale's Point Campground 
> on June 28th.
>
> I'll be traveling with young children on a cargo bike. We'll be cruising 
> at 9-12 mph and stopping regularly for snacks, playgrounds and swimming in 
> the American River and Lake Natoma.
>
> If you want to ride with us you can meet us at Watt Avenue at 2pm headed 
> east on the American River bike trail. Message me privately and we can 
> coordinate better. Otherwise, just show up at the campground the evening of 
> June 28th and look for bikes :) I'll look for a campsite with several tent 
> spots so others can share the site.
>
> If it's super hot, say over 100, then we'll postpone. I'll announce it in 
> this thread.
>
> Best,
> Clark
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Grilver 52 Clem H

[Doug H.]

Alex,
Could you share a photo and build specs of your 1x11 Clem?
Doug

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:13 PM Alex K  wrote:

> FIRST OFF:  The Clem H that I put up on CL and here has been SOLD.
>
> I have to agree with you C Cote.  The Clem H that I am keeping for myself
> (set up as a 1X11) is a real feat of bicycle design.  Riding it around in
> the Marin Headlands has been nothing short of miraculous.  I was lucky
> enough to find a very affordable and almost brand new 56 Atlantis 650b for
> sale on this group and I truly love riding it on road rides with a little
> gravel mixed in.  But Clem H is the one!  Especially in that classic
> Grilver.  And I love my Clem L (Pass and Stow 5-rail and Wald 157 massive
> basket), and I know that this is a Rivendell group, but since you brought
> up step-throughs, that Velo Orange Polyvalent Low has been on my radar
> recently.  If I was looking for a Clem L alternative at the same price
> point ($800ish) I'd be taking a serious look at that.
> Happy riding all.
> Alex
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:31:31 AM UTC-7 Christopher Cote wrote:
>
>> The Atlantis is a close second to the Clem, but I like the Clem's clean
>> lines. I'm not much of a road cyclist anymore, and I haven't really warmed
>> up to the step-through designs, so that leaves the Clem H as the top
>> contender. Now if only it came with disc brakes... (ducking for cover!)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:21:49 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I do like the two bolt design of that stem especially with wide bars
>>> that allow a good bit of torque from pulling. I had to really tighten the
>>> single bolt stem on my first Clem with the Bosco bars. I would have jumped
>>> on an Atlantis in a heartbeat had one been available recently when I bought
>>> the Clem H frameset. Although, the price of the Clem is nice and it seems
>>> close to the Atlantis geometry, just without some of the lugs. What don't
>>> you like about the other Rivendell models?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 5:44 PM Christopher Cote <
>>> christophe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Looks like a vintage Suntour MTB quill stem.

 Signed: Chris, who thinks that a Grilver 52cm Clem H is the only
 Rivendell made in the last 20 years he's interested in..

 On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 12:04:28 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I'm building up a Clem now and am wondering what your stem/bar set up
> is on this one. Looks like a quill to threadless adapter?
> Doug
>
> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 1:18:25 AM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_0308.jpeg]
>>
>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 10:14:30 PM UTC-7 Alex K wrote:
>>
>>> Just posted this on Craigslist.  I grabbed it off of CL for $1500
>>> last week hoping it would fit my buddy who's been looking for the 
>>> perfect
>>> bike for a while.  I thought this was it, but it was a little too big.
>>> Hoping to find a good home for her.  Not in a hurry to sell, hoping
>>> somebody is really pumped to find a Clem and will appreciate this bike 
>>> as
>>> much as I do my Clem H.I bought it with no seat/pedals.  Added a 
>>> Brooks
>>> Ti with Selle cutouts that I paid $250 for and some new-ish MKS pedals. 
>>>  I
>>> have Soma Cazadero tires to throw in.  Asking $1800 (with seat extra 
>>> tires
>>> and pedals)
>>> email me at acksf78 at gmail for pictures.  Hoping for local sale in
>>> the SF Bay Area.  Will consider shipping if you've really been looking 
>>> for
>>> one of these for a while.  Not sure how much that costs, but assuming 
>>> it's
>>> in the $200 range.  Not in a hurry to sell or make any money off this
>>> thing, just hoping it finds a good home.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Alex
>>>
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[RBW] Re: All Rounder, early on on eBay

[Johnny Alien]

It says 21" for the frame but that doesn't look like a 53cm frame.  I 
couldn't get info on standover too. Could be quite a deal though.

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:40:06 AM UTC-4 John in PDX wrote:

> Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very nice 
> early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  I've got 
> one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great gravel, 
> bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with racks, bags 
> and a nice history.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Grilver 52 Clem H

[Alex K]

FIRST OFF:  The Clem H that I put up on CL and here has been SOLD.

I have to agree with you C Cote.  The Clem H that I am keeping for myself 
(set up as a 1X11) is a real feat of bicycle design.  Riding it around in 
the Marin Headlands has been nothing short of miraculous.  I was lucky 
enough to find a very affordable and almost brand new 56 Atlantis 650b for 
sale on this group and I truly love riding it on road rides with a little 
gravel mixed in.  But Clem H is the one!  Especially in that classic 
Grilver.  And I love my Clem L (Pass and Stow 5-rail and Wald 157 massive 
basket), and I know that this is a Rivendell group, but since you brought 
up step-throughs, that Velo Orange Polyvalent Low has been on my radar 
recently.  If I was looking for a Clem L alternative at the same price 
point ($800ish) I'd be taking a serious look at that.  
Happy riding all.
Alex

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 6:31:31 AM UTC-7 Christopher Cote wrote:

> The Atlantis is a close second to the Clem, but I like the Clem's clean 
> lines. I'm not much of a road cyclist anymore, and I haven't really warmed 
> up to the step-through designs, so that leaves the Clem H as the top 
> contender. Now if only it came with disc brakes... (ducking for cover!)
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:21:49 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I do like the two bolt design of that stem especially with wide bars that 
>> allow a good bit of torque from pulling. I had to really tighten the single 
>> bolt stem on my first Clem with the Bosco bars. I would have jumped on an 
>> Atlantis in a heartbeat had one been available recently when I bought the 
>> Clem H frameset. Although, the price of the Clem is nice and it seems close 
>> to the Atlantis geometry, just without some of the lugs. What don't you 
>> like about the other Rivendell models?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 5:44 PM Christopher Cote  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a vintage Suntour MTB quill stem.
>>>
>>> Signed: Chris, who thinks that a Grilver 52cm Clem H is the only 
>>> Rivendell made in the last 20 years he's interested in..
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 12:04:28 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I'm building up a Clem now and am wondering what your stem/bar set up 
 is on this one. Looks like a quill to threadless adapter?
 Doug

 On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 1:18:25 AM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: IMG_0308.jpeg]
>
> On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 10:14:30 PM UTC-7 Alex K wrote:
>
>> Just posted this on Craigslist.  I grabbed it off of CL for $1500 
>> last week hoping it would fit my buddy who's been looking for the 
>> perfect 
>> bike for a while.  I thought this was it, but it was a little too big.  
>> Hoping to find a good home for her.  Not in a hurry to sell, hoping 
>> somebody is really pumped to find a Clem and will appreciate this bike 
>> as 
>> much as I do my Clem H.I bought it with no seat/pedals.  Added a 
>> Brooks 
>> Ti with Selle cutouts that I paid $250 for and some new-ish MKS pedals.  
>> I 
>> have Soma Cazadero tires to throw in.  Asking $1800 (with seat extra 
>> tires 
>> and pedals)
>> email me at acksf78 at gmail for pictures.  Hoping for local sale in 
>> the SF Bay Area.  Will consider shipping if you've really been looking 
>> for 
>> one of these for a while.  Not sure how much that costs, but assuming 
>> it's 
>> in the $200 range.  Not in a hurry to sell or make any money off this 
>> thing, just hoping it finds a good home.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Alex
>>
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[RBW] All Rounder, early on on eBay

[John in PDX]

Perhaps outed already, but there is a poorly photographed, but very nice 
early Riv All Rounder on ebay with about 6 hours to go at $850.  I've got 
one, it's awesome, clearance for 2.0 x 26" tires at least, a great gravel, 
bike packing bike with nimble handling.  This one comes with racks, bags 
and a nice history.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114848850767?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

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[RBW] Re: anyone push their altus (m310) to a 36t rear cog?

[lconley]

Sound like the chain is too long, and/or the B screw (body angle screw) 
needs to be turned in. Turning the B screw in (clockwise) increases the 
distance between the derailleur and the cogs.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 9:59:32 AM UTC-4 Lefebeaver wrote:

> My Atlantis is set up with an Altus, 24-34-44 up front, and 11-34 8-spd in 
> back. I set up the chain length according to guidelines I got from Riv, but 
> my Altus grinds on the second biggest gear in back when shifting to the 
> innermost one - it scrapes on the gear on its way up and makes a horrendous 
> noise, and although it'll run in that second gear, it's clunky so I rarely 
> use it, but the biggest gear works fine once you get up there. I'm 
> wondering if anyone else has had this issue - should I add some more links 
> to the chain? I ultimately wish to go bigger in back - was on a loaded dirt 
> road tour in Brazil where there were some hills I didn't have a low enough 
> gear to climb and I had to walk it up, while my companions on mountain 
> bikes just went grinding up in their 1X setups. Thinking I need to get a 
> goat link for that next step to a larger cassette in back; what is the 
> guidance for choosing chain length with a link?
>
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 4:34:55 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>
>> Same here.  My Atlantis has a 24/34/44 triple, and the Altus handles it 
>> fine.  IIRC, the Altus is less than $30 at Rivendell (if they have them to 
>> sell).
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:01:46 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>>> I ran an Altus on my Atlantis with a 12-36 9 speed cassette and a 
>>> 42/34/19 triple for a week on the GDMBR and had no troubles other than 
>>> being laughed at by another cyclist for my selection of a rear derailleur.  
>>> What can I say - it worked.  I decided to switch to the Altus for that ride 
>>> because I had it and it has amazing chain wrap, which I thought would be 
>>> desirable with that 19t granny.  It has been two years now and it is still 
>>> on the bike.
>>>
>>> Bill S
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 8:51:11 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 What Doug said, it should be fine, Shimano rear derailers are usually 
 good for pushing a couple teeth bigger than listed. I believe - this is 
 math stuff I don't fully understand - some of the concern comes from if 
 you're running a wide-range triple crank *and *a big cassette..at some 
 point in there things get screwy. But most of us don't run triples that 
 way 
 and you may not even have a big ring, just guard-middle-small. I say give 
 it a whirl! 

 Joe Bernard

 On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:20:31 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> bought a 11-36t cassette for my new appa and already have some altus' 
> that i'd like to use ( i guess i have back up shimano rear in case they 
> dont) but i realized it's supposed to be 34t max. anyone get it past 
> that?  
> tried looking elsewhere to no avail.
>
> keep seeing altus' on riv builds and it's growing on me aesthetically, 
> in a riv sort of way. my back up is an m952 xtr rear. not a huge fan of 
> the 
> charcoal color so i'm not super excited to use it, but i guess i can get 
> over that pretty quickly
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: anyone push their altus (m310) to a 36t rear cog?

[Lefebeaver]

My Atlantis is set up with an Altus, 24-34-44 up front, and 11-34 8-spd in 
back. I set up the chain length according to guidelines I got from Riv, but 
my Altus grinds on the second biggest gear in back when shifting to the 
innermost one - it scrapes on the gear on its way up and makes a horrendous 
noise, and although it'll run in that second gear, it's clunky so I rarely 
use it, but the biggest gear works fine once you get up there. I'm 
wondering if anyone else has had this issue - should I add some more links 
to the chain? I ultimately wish to go bigger in back - was on a loaded dirt 
road tour in Brazil where there were some hills I didn't have a low enough 
gear to climb and I had to walk it up, while my companions on mountain 
bikes just went grinding up in their 1X setups. Thinking I need to get a 
goat link for that next step to a larger cassette in back; what is the 
guidance for choosing chain length with a link?


On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 4:34:55 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:

> Same here.  My Atlantis has a 24/34/44 triple, and the Altus handles it 
> fine.  IIRC, the Altus is less than $30 at Rivendell (if they have them to 
> sell).
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 6:01:46 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> I ran an Altus on my Atlantis with a 12-36 9 speed cassette and a 
>> 42/34/19 triple for a week on the GDMBR and had no troubles other than 
>> being laughed at by another cyclist for my selection of a rear derailleur.  
>> What can I say - it worked.  I decided to switch to the Altus for that ride 
>> because I had it and it has amazing chain wrap, which I thought would be 
>> desirable with that 19t granny.  It has been two years now and it is still 
>> on the bike.
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 8:51:11 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> What Doug said, it should be fine, Shimano rear derailers are usually 
>>> good for pushing a couple teeth bigger than listed. I believe - this is 
>>> math stuff I don't fully understand - some of the concern comes from if 
>>> you're running a wide-range triple crank *and *a big cassette..at some 
>>> point in there things get screwy. But most of us don't run triples that way 
>>> and you may not even have a big ring, just guard-middle-small. I say give 
>>> it a whirl! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:20:31 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>>
 bought a 11-36t cassette for my new appa and already have some altus' 
 that i'd like to use ( i guess i have back up shimano rear in case they 
 dont) but i realized it's supposed to be 34t max. anyone get it past that? 
  
 tried looking elsewhere to no avail.

 keep seeing altus' on riv builds and it's growing on me aesthetically, 
 in a riv sort of way. my back up is an m952 xtr rear. not a huge fan of 
 the 
 charcoal color so i'm not super excited to use it, but i guess i can get 
 over that pretty quickly




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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Grilver 52 Clem H

[Christopher Cote]

The Atlantis is a close second to the Clem, but I like the Clem's clean 
lines. I'm not much of a road cyclist anymore, and I haven't really warmed 
up to the step-through designs, so that leaves the Clem H as the top 
contender. Now if only it came with disc brakes... (ducking for cover!)

Chris


On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:21:49 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I do like the two bolt design of that stem especially with wide bars that 
> allow a good bit of torque from pulling. I had to really tighten the single 
> bolt stem on my first Clem with the Bosco bars. I would have jumped on an 
> Atlantis in a heartbeat had one been available recently when I bought the 
> Clem H frameset. Although, the price of the Clem is nice and it seems close 
> to the Atlantis geometry, just without some of the lugs. What don't you 
> like about the other Rivendell models?
> Doug
>
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 5:44 PM Christopher Cote  
> wrote:
>
>> Looks like a vintage Suntour MTB quill stem.
>>
>> Signed: Chris, who thinks that a Grilver 52cm Clem H is the only 
>> Rivendell made in the last 20 years he's interested in..
>>
>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 12:04:28 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I'm building up a Clem now and am wondering what your stem/bar set up is 
>>> on this one. Looks like a quill to threadless adapter?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 18, 2021 at 1:18:25 AM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 [image: IMG_0308.jpeg]

 On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 10:14:30 PM UTC-7 Alex K wrote:

> Just posted this on Craigslist.  I grabbed it off of CL for $1500 last 
> week hoping it would fit my buddy who's been looking for the perfect bike 
> for a while.  I thought this was it, but it was a little too big.  Hoping 
> to find a good home for her.  Not in a hurry to sell, hoping somebody is 
> really pumped to find a Clem and will appreciate this bike as much as I 
> do 
> my Clem H.I bought it with no seat/pedals.  Added a Brooks Ti with 
> Selle cutouts that I paid $250 for and some new-ish MKS pedals.  I have 
> Soma Cazadero tires to throw in.  Asking $1800 (with seat extra tires and 
> pedals)
> email me at acksf78 at gmail for pictures.  Hoping for local sale in 
> the SF Bay Area.  Will consider shipping if you've really been looking 
> for 
> one of these for a while.  Not sure how much that costs, but assuming 
> it's 
> in the $200 range.  Not in a hurry to sell or make any money off this 
> thing, just hoping it finds a good home.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
> Alex
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