[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Atlantis MIT (650B)

[Ian Dickson]

Wheels are sold. I might have a buyer for the frame, but not totally sure 
yet.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 12:46:18 AM UTC-6 Ian Dickson wrote:

> Sale is pending on the wheels. That was quick.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 12:26:19 AM UTC-6 Ian Dickson wrote:
>
>> I'm selling my Atlantis. Frame, fork and headset, $1100 plus actual cost 
>> of shipping via bikeflights. I rode this quite a bit, mostly on the road, 
>> until I got my Sam. Then I didn't ride it all. I can't say why I prefer the 
>> Sam -- they both ride great, my speed was the same on both bikes, and the 
>> Atlantis is more versatile. I just really like the Sam. 
>>
>> Frame is generally in great shape, with some tiny chips and three 
>> significant gouges to the paint. The worst is on the drive-side chainstay, 
>> from a chainsuck incident (I wouldn't go past 2.1" tires on this frame if I 
>> were you). There's another on a seatstay, and one on the bottom bracket 
>> shell. You can see them well enough in the flickr photos. It's just paint 
>> damage, but you'll want to seal those spots with something. I have never 
>> crashed this bike.
>>
>> I've also got a pair of Velocity-built wheels (these 
>> )
>>  
>> that I'll throw in for $200 if you want them. If somebody wants the wheels 
>> but not the bike, they're yours for $250 shipped. 
>>
>> More photos here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW8ZTTf
>> [image: Atlantis right.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Bones]

I have a few of those small Blue Lug frame pads. I slide them all the way 
forward or backward on the top tube until I lock the bike up, then I just 
slide it over to protect the point of contact. I think this is a good 
compromise: it allows the bike to shine but still affords some protection 
when I need it.

Bones

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:38:49 PM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:

> On the two bikes where the bar-end shifters would otherwise contact the 
> top tube, I use this JandD pump strap to both secure the pump and protect 
> the TT.
> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FPT
>
> On my commuter which doesn't have the above issue (and doesn't have a pump 
> under the TT), I wrapped the TT with some bar tape in the two locations 
> where I commonly lean it to lock it or strap it to a post on the train.
>
> cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 09:31:26 PM GMT+10, Den John  
> wrote: 
>
>
> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
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[RBW] WTB: RIvendell Readers

[Johnny Alien]

Anyone looking to get rid of some print version of the Rivendell Reader?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Sam Hillborne Frameset - Walnut Creek

[JP]

Sale pending

On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 11:57:54 AM UTC-10 JP wrote:

> My brother bought a 62cm atlantis and cannibalized this.I believe it's 
> MUSA 
>
> Face to face sell at 1600 S Main St Complex Walnut Creek 94596 
>
> Asking $750
>
> thanks!
>
> [image: IMG_2488.jpeg]

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[RBW] Re: FS - Rivendell Rambouillet

[Johnny Alien]

The Rambouillet might be the best Rivendell ever. Someone is going to be 
very happy!

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:40:02 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Jim,
> Thank you for the thoughtful and kind handling of this sale post. 
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:37:50 PM UTC-4 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Note - this individual is selling the bicycle which belonged to her late 
>> husband.
>> She felt that this bicycle could find a proper home to a member of this 
>> group. 
>> I have contacted her to encourage her to post this with a proper price 
>> listing and other specifics, so there may be updates to this listing. 
>>
>> Jim / List admin
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:23:43 PM UTC-7 rtan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Want to sell this bike.  Top tube - 20", seat tube - 22", wheelbase - 40"
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Hunqapillar f/f/hs + extras -- 1st gen, grey/kidney bean, $1,500

[Chris L]

Another unsolicited chime-in:  I have a 1st generation gray Hunqapillar and 
I can confirm that  in the 54cm size, RBW's listed "effective top tube" is 
the "actual top tube length".  I think the 54 cm is listed at something 
like a 584 mm ETT when it is in fact, 599.2.   

Also, my 54cm easily accommodates RH Antelope Hill 700 x 55 tires and my 
frameset is from the very first batch.

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 2:31:23 PM UTC-5 Jeremy Till wrote:

> I find myself with one too many bicycles and it's a last in, first out 
> kind of situation. For sale is a 62cm Hunqapillar frame, fork, and FSA 
> Orbit headset, and I will throw in the Thomson Elite seatpost and Velo 
> Orange 63mm fluted fenders. I bought the frame/fork/headset used last 
> summer, built it up and rode it occasionally for the past ~9 months. The 
> seatpost and fenders were new as of last Fall. The fenders are basically 
> installed, and include a hole in the front fender that lines up with the 
> eyelet on a Nitto 32F front rack for more support. 
>
> Stated geometry can be found here: https://flic.kr/p/7NnxMg
> That also links to the Hunqapillar group on Flickr, which has a number of 
> shots from the original flyer with other useful information. I suspect that 
> the top tube is slightly longer than the stated geometry, just from 
> comparing its fit against my other similarly sized bikes. Being a first 
> generation, its tire clearance is more limited than the later generations. 
> I would say it fits 700x52/29x2.1" without fenders, 700x45 or maybe 
> slightly wider with fenders, depending on rim width. 
>
> It's biggest imperfection is a large chainsuck scar on the drive side 
> chainstay, which was preexisting when I acquired it. Before building it up 
> I sanded it smooth and hit with some spray on clear coat to discourage 
> rust. In my formerly professional opinion it's not structural concern, but 
> like most things, good to keep an eye on. See picture at the link below 
> below. Aside from that there are a couple of very small shellac drips on 
> the top and diagatube, otherwise in really good shape.  
>
> Pictures of what's for sale here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW5Fche
> Pictures of it built up: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmQUkEX8 
> My saddle height is around 790mm for reference.
>
> Asking $1,500 for everything pictured. I'm located in Sacramento, CA and 
> would be happy to do a local exchange here or in the SF Bay Area. Can also 
> ship at buyer's expense.  
>
> Missed out on an Appaloosa? Curious about older, shorter-chainstayed, fat 
> tire Rivs? Now's your chance. 
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Raymond Henderson]

I called the guy that was selling this one. Good ole timer said his son
bought it for him a while ago and he didn’t ride it.

I was thinking about asking him to have a bike shop ship it but at the time
I called him he had already talked to 7 people and one guy said he was
going to drive from West Virginia. At that price I don’t blame him.

Wish it could be mine but maybe another day.

-Ray

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I had one and stupidly sold it, but it went to an iBob list member some
> years ago.  Nice bike but on the large side for me.
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:41 PM, Jingy 
> wrote:
>
> They are talking about the $800 Riv in Ohio.
> That bike is the same blue as my 96 all-rounder, so it's probably 96/97
> vintage
>
> Jim in Mpls
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Are you talking about the Atlantis?
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:36:18 PM UTC-4 Ray wrote:
>>
>>> That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive.
>>>
>>> Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look
 close I just saw the color and assumed.

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and
> should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>
>> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes
>> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26'
>> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a 
>> custom...
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I
>>> would try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are 
>>> great
>>> bikes. That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even
>>> though (as I just said) I just bought a bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please
 let me know...

 SimpleOne
 56cm
 $1250
 Boston, MA

 https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html

 Model unknown
 58cm
 $800
 Findlay, OH

 https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html

 Sam Hillborne
 58cm
 $2000

 https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html

 Romulus
 59cm
 $2925
 Meridian, ID
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839

 A. Homer Hilsen
 Size not listed.
 $1995
 East Jordan, MI

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post

 Atlantis 2012
 53cm
 $2000
 Old Saybrook, CT

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Rivendell Rambouillet

[Doug H.]

Jim,
Thank you for the thoughtful and kind handling of this sale post. 
Doug

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:37:50 PM UTC-4 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Note - this individual is selling the bicycle which belonged to her late 
> husband.
> She felt that this bicycle could find a proper home to a member of this 
> group. 
> I have contacted her to encourage her to post this with a proper price 
> listing and other specifics, so there may be updates to this listing. 
>
> Jim / List admin
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:23:43 PM UTC-7 rtan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Want to sell this bike.  Top tube - 20", seat tube - 22", wheelbase - 40"
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Andrew Letton]

 On the two bikes where the bar-end shifters would otherwise contact the top 
tube, I use this JandD pump strap to both secure the pump and protect the 
TT.https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FPT

On my commuter which doesn't have the above issue (and doesn't have a pump 
under the TT), I wrapped the TT with some bar tape in the two locations where I 
commonly lean it to lock it or strap it to a post on the train.
cheers,Andrew in Sydney
On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 09:31:26 PM GMT+10, Den John 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello,
What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 

Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel off 
and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
environmental perspective. 

BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good match 
aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 

I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to fit 
the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo Orange had 
some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A home made 
leather TT cover might work I suppose. 

I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their TT but 
that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily removable once 
it's been done. 

What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice waxed 
cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found anyone who 
makes something like that.
Any other ideas?
Cheers,Johnny




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[RBW] Re: FS - Rivendell Rambouillet

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Note - this individual is selling the bicycle which belonged to her late 
husband.
She felt that this bicycle could find a proper home to a member of this 
group. 
I have contacted her to encourage her to post this with a proper price 
listing and other specifics, so there may be updates to this listing. 

Jim / List admin

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:23:43 PM UTC-7 rtan...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Want to sell this bike.  Top tube - 20", seat tube - 22", wheelbase - 40"
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Joe Bernard]

One sold, dark blue available. 



On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:25:40 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have a couple of these BMX-type covers I got from a very nice fellow in 
> Hong Kong. This is the only option I would use, I'm wary of moisture 
> getting under twine and/or cloth and screwing up the toptube worse than any 
> dings or dents ever would (this is also why I don't wrap chainstays). 
>
> I don't actually use them, though, so anyone can have them for shipping. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:22 AM UTC-7 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
>> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
>> environmental perspective. 
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
>> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>> removable once it's been done. 
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Steven Sweedler]

I called and am trying to meet up with the seller. I have been riding from
New Hampshire and will be in Ohio tomorrow. Still a few days from Findlay
but trying to make it happen.  Steve

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:50 PM 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I had one and stupidly sold it, but it went to an iBob list member some
> years ago.  Nice bike but on the large side for me.
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:41 PM, Jingy 
> wrote:
>
> They are talking about the $800 Riv in Ohio.
> That bike is the same blue as my 96 all-rounder, so it's probably 96/97
> vintage
>
> Jim in Mpls
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Are you talking about the Atlantis?
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:36:18 PM UTC-4 Ray wrote:
>>
>>> That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive.
>>>
>>> Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look
 close I just saw the color and assumed.

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and
> should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>
>> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes
>> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26'
>> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a 
>> custom...
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I
>>> would try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are 
>>> great
>>> bikes. That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even
>>> though (as I just said) I just bought a bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please
 let me know...

 SimpleOne
 56cm
 $1250
 Boston, MA

 https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html

 Model unknown
 58cm
 $800
 Findlay, OH

 https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html

 Sam Hillborne
 58cm
 $2000

 https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html

 Romulus
 59cm
 $2925
 Meridian, ID
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839

 A. Homer Hilsen
 Size not listed.
 $1995
 East Jordan, MI

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post

 Atlantis 2012
 53cm
 $2000
 Old Saybrook, CT

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I had one and stupidly sold it, but it went to an iBob list member some years 
ago. Nice bike but on the large side for me.

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On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:41 PM, Jingy  wrote:

> They are talking about the $800 Riv in Ohio.
> That bike is the same blue as my 96 all-rounder, so it's probably 96/97 
> vintage
>
> Jim in Mpls
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Are you talking about the Atlantis?
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:36:18 PM UTC-4 Ray wrote:
>>
>>> That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive.
>>>
>>> Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look close 
 I just saw the color and assumed.

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and 
> should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>
>> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
>> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
>> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a 
>> custom...
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would 
>>> try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot. Those are great 
>>> bikes. That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even 
>>> though (as I just said) I just bought a bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let 
 me know...

 SimpleOne
 56cm
 $1250
 Boston, MA
 https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html

 Model unknown
 58cm
 $800
 Findlay, OH
 https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html

 Sam Hillborne
 58cm
 $2000
 https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html

 Romulus
 59cm
 $2925
 Meridian, ID
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839

 A. Homer Hilsen
 Size not listed.
 $1995
 East Jordan, MI
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post

 Atlantis 2012
 53cm
 $2000
 Old Saybrook, CT
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Jingy]

They are talking about the $800 Riv in Ohio.
That bike is the same blue as my 96 all-rounder, so it's probably 96/97 
vintage

Jim in Mpls

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:16:01 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Are you talking about the Atlantis? 
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:36:18 PM UTC-4 Ray wrote:
>
>> That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive. 
>>
>> Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look 
>>> close I just saw the color and assumed.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and 
 should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low. 



 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:

> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would 
>> try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great 
>> bikes. 
>> That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though 
>> (as 
>> I just said) I just bought a bike.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let 
>>> me know... 
>>>
>>> SimpleOne 
>>> 56cm 
>>> $1250 
>>> Boston, MA 
>>>
>>> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> Model unknown 
>>> 58cm 
>>> $800 
>>> Findlay, OH 
>>>
>>> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html 
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne 
>>> 58cm 
>>> $2000 
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> Romulus 
>>> 59cm 
>>> $2925 
>>> Meridian, ID 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839 
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>>> Size not listed. 
>>> $1995 
>>> East Jordan, MI 
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>  
>>>
>>> Atlantis 2012 
>>> 53cm 
>>> $2000 
>>> Old Saybrook, CT 
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Are you talking about the Atlantis? 

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:36:18 PM UTC-4 Ray wrote:

> That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive. 
>
> Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look 
>> close I just saw the color and assumed.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and 
>>> should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>>>
 Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
 (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
 wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would 
> try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great 
> bikes. 
> That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though 
> (as 
> I just said) I just bought a bike.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let 
>> me know... 
>>
>> SimpleOne 
>> 56cm 
>> $1250 
>> Boston, MA 
>>
>> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>>  
>>
>> Model unknown 
>> 58cm 
>> $800 
>> Findlay, OH 
>>
>> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html 
>>
>> Sam Hillborne 
>> 58cm 
>> $2000 
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>>  
>>
>> Romulus 
>> 59cm 
>> $2925 
>> Meridian, ID 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839 
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>> Size not listed. 
>> $1995 
>> East Jordan, MI 
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>  
>>
>> Atlantis 2012 
>> 53cm 
>> $2000 
>> Old Saybrook, CT 
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Johnny Alien]

Agreed! There is so much room to offer that seller whatever they want to 
motivate them to ship.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:39:20 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Dude, at that price I'd offer whatever they want to have a bike shop pack 
> and ship. Do the thing!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:36:18 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>
>> That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive. 
>>
>> Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look 
>>> close I just saw the color and assumed.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and 
 should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low. 



 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:

> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would 
>> try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great 
>> bikes. 
>> That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though 
>> (as 
>> I just said) I just bought a bike.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let 
>>> me know... 
>>>
>>> SimpleOne 
>>> 56cm 
>>> $1250 
>>> Boston, MA 
>>>
>>> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> Model unknown 
>>> 58cm 
>>> $800 
>>> Findlay, OH 
>>>
>>> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html 
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne 
>>> 58cm 
>>> $2000 
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> Romulus 
>>> 59cm 
>>> $2925 
>>> Meridian, ID 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839 
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>>> Size not listed. 
>>> $1995 
>>> East Jordan, MI 
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>  
>>>
>>> Atlantis 2012 
>>> 53cm 
>>> $2000 
>>> Old Saybrook, CT 
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto S83 26.8 Seatpost

[Doug H.]

SOLD
On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:50:19 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I have a black ceramic-coated Nitto S83 seatpost for sale. Inserted in 
> frame but never used on a ride. 26.8 diameter, not 27.2 See photos in 
> linked album. $100 shipped continental U.S.
>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Joe Bernard]

Dude, at that price I'd offer whatever they want to have a bike shop pack 
and ship. Do the thing!



On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:36:18 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:

> That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive. 
>
> Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look 
>> close I just saw the color and assumed.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and 
>>> should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>>>
 Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
 (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
 wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would 
> try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great 
> bikes. 
> That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though 
> (as 
> I just said) I just bought a bike.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let 
>> me know... 
>>
>> SimpleOne 
>> 56cm 
>> $1250 
>> Boston, MA 
>>
>> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>>  
>>
>> Model unknown 
>> 58cm 
>> $800 
>> Findlay, OH 
>>
>> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html 
>>
>> Sam Hillborne 
>> 58cm 
>> $2000 
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>>  
>>
>> Romulus 
>> 59cm 
>> $2925 
>> Meridian, ID 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839 
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>> Size not listed. 
>> $1995 
>> East Jordan, MI 
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>  
>>
>> Atlantis 2012 
>> 53cm 
>> $2000 
>> Old Saybrook, CT 
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Ray]

That's a dream bike for me. In my size too, but way to far a drive. 

Somebody is getting a hell of a deal for sure.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:31:26 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look close 
> I just saw the color and assumed.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and 
>> should be going for that now. His price is WAY too low. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
>>> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
>>> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would 
 try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great 
 bikes. 
 That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though 
 (as 
 I just said) I just bought a bike.

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let 
> me know... 
>
> SimpleOne 
> 56cm 
> $1250 
> Boston, MA 
>
> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>  
>
> Model unknown 
> 58cm 
> $800 
> Findlay, OH 
> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html 
>
> Sam Hillborne 
> 58cm 
> $2000 
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>  
>
> Romulus 
> 59cm 
> $2925 
> Meridian, ID 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839 
>
> A. Homer Hilsen 
> Size not listed. 
> $1995 
> East Jordan, MI 
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>  
>
> Atlantis 2012 
> 53cm 
> $2000 
> Old Saybrook, CT 
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post



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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Johnny Alien]

Oh yeah. It does say "Rivendell" and not Bleriot. I didn't even look close 
I just saw the color and assumed.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and should 
> be going for that now. His price is WAY too low. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:
>
>> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
>> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
>> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would 
>>> try for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great bikes. 
>>> That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though (as 
>>> I just said) I just bought a bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let me 
 know... 

 SimpleOne 
 56cm 
 $1250 
 Boston, MA 

 https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
  

 Model unknown 
 58cm 
 $800 
 Findlay, OH 
 https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html 

 Sam Hillborne 
 58cm 
 $2000 

 https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
  

 Romulus 
 59cm 
 $2925 
 Meridian, ID 
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839 

 A. Homer Hilsen 
 Size not listed. 
 $1995 
 East Jordan, MI 

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
  

 Atlantis 2012 
 53cm 
 $2000 
 Old Saybrook, CT 

 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Joe Bernard]

All Rounder. Which probably did cost him $2400 in the late '90s and should 
be going for that now. His price is WAY too low. 



On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 2:22:01 PM UTC-7 Ray wrote:

> Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes 
> (hard to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' 
> wheels. Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would try 
>> for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great bikes. 
>> That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though (as 
>> I just said) I just bought a bike.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let me 
>>> know... 
>>>
>>> SimpleOne 
>>> 56cm 
>>> $1250 
>>> Boston, MA 
>>>
>>> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> Model unknown 
>>> 58cm 
>>> $800 
>>> Findlay, OH 
>>> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html 
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne 
>>> 58cm 
>>> $2000 
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> Romulus 
>>> 59cm 
>>> $2925 
>>> Meridian, ID 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839 
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>>> Size not listed. 
>>> $1995 
>>> East Jordan, MI 
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>  
>>>
>>> Atlantis 2012 
>>> 53cm 
>>> $2000 
>>> Old Saybrook, CT 
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Ray]

Are you sure that's a Bleriot? It looks like it has cantilever brakes (hard 
to tell from the picture of course) and the ad says its on 26' wheels. 
Could easily be mistaking 650b for 26, but it might be a custom...

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would try 
> for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great bikes. 
> That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though (as 
> I just said) I just bought a bike.
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let me 
>> know...
>>
>> SimpleOne
>> 56cm
>> $1250
>> Boston, MA
>>
>> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>>
>> Model unknown
>> 58cm
>> $800
>> Findlay, OH
>> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html
>>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> 58cm
>> $2000
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>>
>> Romulus
>> 59cm
>> $2925
>> Meridian, ID
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen
>> Size not listed.
>> $1995
>> East Jordan, MI
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>
>> Atlantis 2012
>> 53cm
>> $2000
>> Old Saybrook, CT
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Johnny Alien]

Ooohh! That Atlantis is sweet. If I hadn't just bought a bike I would try 
for that one. The "unknown" model is a Bleriot.  Those are great bikes. 
That's a stupid low price. If it was my size I would buy it even though (as 
I just said) I just bought a bike.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 4:27:18 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let me 
> know...
>
> SimpleOne
> 56cm
> $1250
> Boston, MA
>
> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html
>
> Model unknown
> 58cm
> $800
> Findlay, OH
> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html
>
> Sam Hillborne
> 58cm
> $2000
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html
>
> Romulus
> 59cm
> $2925
> Meridian, ID
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839
>
> A. Homer Hilsen
> Size not listed.
> $1995
> East Jordan, MI
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>
> Atlantis 2012
> 53cm
> $2000
> Old Saybrook, CT
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

I agree with John here, the most Riv-ish solution is not to use one. If
dings in my paint from posts or handlebars bothered me,  I'd be more
inclined to not do the things that cause it, rather than to add
unnecessary, bulky, and unattractive protective equipment.
My most beat up toptube frame(2017 Steamroller, lived chained to a signpost
for 2 years in NY) still gets good compliments.
Some guys actually came into the bar and found me the other night because
they wanted to talk to me about bikes.  They didn't come in to say "dude
that TT is messed up, put a pound of leather on it!"

--ben


On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 2:01 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> While there's a part of me that completely understands the desire to
> protect the beautiful paint on my Riv, another, more carefree part feels
> that covering up such beautiful work defeats the purpose of having it to
> enjoy. Kind of reminds me when my aunt bought a beautiful couch only to
> cover it with a less-than-attractive throw to protect it.
>
> Entropy is real and I'm trying to come to terms with the fleeting nature
> of beauty, or to appreciate what beauty there is in the whole process from
> 'shiny-new' to 'well-used'.
>
> We're I to cover the top tube, I'd probably learn a cool, multi-colored
> bar tape wrap with twine finishing the ends. Very Riv, indeed.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:20:35 AM UTC-7 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Sean B: Those Blue Lug pads are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
>> I may see if my wife can produce something similar with her sewing
>> machine...
>>
>> @Johnny Alien: I saw someone at the Eroica in Italy who had done his
>> whole handlebar with twine. It looked cool but I thought no way I'd try it.
>> Even taping bars with normal tape tends to drive me demented.
>>
>> @Leslie: what is Riv-ish when it comes to bike finishing and accessories?
>> For me, a few things:
>> - Preference for materials that can be treated or repaired to
>> keep them usable, rather than materials that have to be thrown out when
>> they start to get tired
>> - Preference for natural materials like cotton, twine and leather
>> that develop a patina
>> - Designs that don't have large ugly logos, and/or colours that
>> clash with Rivendell's colours
>>
>> @Everyone else: thanks for your suggestions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:02, Sean B.  wrote:
>>
>>> I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end
>>> shifters from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors
>>> too.
>>>
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>>>
 If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into
 the top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not
 incredibly noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:

> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube
> protector is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the
> bike on their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding.
> Unfortunately, it is currently sold out:
> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear
> 
>
> Leslie Tierstein
> Arlington VA
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes?
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to
>> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from
>> an environmental perspective.
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very
>> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment.
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem
>> to fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose.
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of
>> their TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not
>> easily removable once it's been done.
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like
>> Carradice waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've 
>> not
>> found anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
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[RBW] Anyone still using the original mustard color MUSA pants and shorts

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I still have 2 of each I still use, pretty indestructible.  

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[RBW] WTB. Nitto Faceplater 31.8

[Brenden Perella]

Hello Everyone, 

I just received the Tumbleweed Persuader bar for my Atlantis and in NEED of a 
Nitto Faceplater stem 31.8 in either a 60mm or 85mm? I noticed Doug M. Is 
looking for one as well if anyone has either of these sizes and willing to sell 
LMK! 

Thank you,
Brenden 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Hunqapillar f/f/hs + extras -- 1st gen, grey/kidney bean, $1,500

[James Warren]

Unsolicited chime-in here. I have a Hunq of that era, and sometimes I think 
it’s an extension of my body. Just a great, great frame. A huge number of 
activities of the past 8 summers have almost been defined by it.


> On Jul 6, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> Just bumping this. A lot of interest but no takers yet. To answer one common 
> question: my PBH, as best as I can remember (it's been about 10 years since I 
> measured it), is ~96cm, but I run my saddle lower than the Rivendell 
> recommendation. Let me know if I can answer any other questions!
> 
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
> 
>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:31:23 PM UTC-7 Jeremy Till wrote:
>> I find myself with one too many bicycles and it's a last in, first out kind 
>> of situation. For sale is a 62cm Hunqapillar frame, fork, and FSA Orbit 
>> headset, and I will throw in the Thomson Elite seatpost and Velo Orange 63mm 
>> fluted fenders. I bought the frame/fork/headset used last summer, built it 
>> up and rode it occasionally for the past ~9 months. The seatpost and fenders 
>> were new as of last Fall. The fenders are basically installed, and include a 
>> hole in the front fender that lines up with the eyelet on a Nitto 32F front 
>> rack for more support. 
>> 
>> Stated geometry can be found here: https://flic.kr/p/7NnxMg
>> That also links to the Hunqapillar group on Flickr, which has a number of 
>> shots from the original flyer with other useful information. I suspect that 
>> the top tube is slightly longer than the stated geometry, just from 
>> comparing its fit against my other similarly sized bikes. Being a first 
>> generation, its tire clearance is more limited than the later generations. I 
>> would say it fits 700x52/29x2.1" without fenders, 700x45 or maybe slightly 
>> wider with fenders, depending on rim width. 
>> 
>> It's biggest imperfection is a large chainsuck scar on the drive side 
>> chainstay, which was preexisting when I acquired it. Before building it up I 
>> sanded it smooth and hit with some spray on clear coat to discourage rust. 
>> In my formerly professional opinion it's not structural concern, but like 
>> most things, good to keep an eye on. See picture at the link below below. 
>> Aside from that there are a couple of very small shellac drips on the top 
>> and diagatube, otherwise in really good shape.  
>> 
>> Pictures of what's for sale here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW5Fche
>> Pictures of it built up: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmQUkEX8 
>> My saddle height is around 790mm for reference.
>> 
>> Asking $1,500 for everything pictured. I'm located in Sacramento, CA and 
>> would be happy to do a local exchange here or in the SF Bay Area. Can also 
>> ship at buyer's expense.  
>> 
>> Missed out on an Appaloosa? Curious about older, shorter-chainstayed, fat 
>> tire Rivs? Now's your chance. 
>> 
>> -Jeremy Till
>> Sacramento, CA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Matthew Williams]

If anyone finds a 58 Appaloosa with the double top tubes, please let me know...

SimpleOne
56cm
$1250
Boston, MA
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/newtonville-rivendell-simple-one/7344246421.html

Model unknown
58cm
$800
Findlay, OH
https://limaohio.craigslist.org/bik/d/findlay-rivendell/7346994875.html

Sam Hillborne
58cm
$2000
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/sumner-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7346810416.html

Romulus
59cm
$2925
Meridian, ID
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124798594839

A. Homer Hilsen
Size not listed.
$1995
East Jordan, MI
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320471656223570/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post

Atlantis 2012
53cm
$2000
Old Saybrook, CT
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Hunqapillar f/f/hs + extras -- 1st gen, grey/kidney bean, $1,500

[Jeremy Till]

Hi All, 

Just bumping this. A lot of interest but no takers yet. To answer one 
common question: my PBH, as best as I can remember (it's been about 10 
years since I measured it), is ~96cm, but I run my saddle lower than the 
Rivendell recommendation. Let me know if I can answer any other questions!

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:31:23 PM UTC-7 Jeremy Till wrote:

> I find myself with one too many bicycles and it's a last in, first out 
> kind of situation. For sale is a 62cm Hunqapillar frame, fork, and FSA 
> Orbit headset, and I will throw in the Thomson Elite seatpost and Velo 
> Orange 63mm fluted fenders. I bought the frame/fork/headset used last 
> summer, built it up and rode it occasionally for the past ~9 months. The 
> seatpost and fenders were new as of last Fall. The fenders are basically 
> installed, and include a hole in the front fender that lines up with the 
> eyelet on a Nitto 32F front rack for more support. 
>
> Stated geometry can be found here: https://flic.kr/p/7NnxMg
> That also links to the Hunqapillar group on Flickr, which has a number of 
> shots from the original flyer with other useful information. I suspect that 
> the top tube is slightly longer than the stated geometry, just from 
> comparing its fit against my other similarly sized bikes. Being a first 
> generation, its tire clearance is more limited than the later generations. 
> I would say it fits 700x52/29x2.1" without fenders, 700x45 or maybe 
> slightly wider with fenders, depending on rim width. 
>
> It's biggest imperfection is a large chainsuck scar on the drive side 
> chainstay, which was preexisting when I acquired it. Before building it up 
> I sanded it smooth and hit with some spray on clear coat to discourage 
> rust. In my formerly professional opinion it's not structural concern, but 
> like most things, good to keep an eye on. See picture at the link below 
> below. Aside from that there are a couple of very small shellac drips on 
> the top and diagatube, otherwise in really good shape.  
>
> Pictures of what's for sale here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW5Fche
> Pictures of it built up: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmQUkEX8 
> My saddle height is around 790mm for reference.
>
> Asking $1,500 for everything pictured. I'm located in Sacramento, CA and 
> would be happy to do a local exchange here or in the SF Bay Area. Can also 
> ship at buyer's expense.  
>
> Missed out on an Appaloosa? Curious about older, shorter-chainstayed, fat 
> tire Rivs? Now's your chance. 
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[John Rinker]

While there's a part of me that completely understands the desire to 
protect the beautiful paint on my Riv, another, more carefree part feels 
that covering up such beautiful work defeats the purpose of having it to 
enjoy. Kind of reminds me when my aunt bought a beautiful couch only to 
cover it with a less-than-attractive throw to protect it. 

Entropy is real and I'm trying to come to terms with the fleeting nature of 
beauty, or to appreciate what beauty there is in the whole process from 
'shiny-new' to 'well-used'. 

We're I to cover the top tube, I'd probably learn a cool, multi-colored bar 
tape wrap with twine finishing the ends. Very Riv, indeed.

Cheers, John

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:20:35 AM UTC-7 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Sean B: Those Blue Lug pads are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! 
> I may see if my wife can produce something similar with her sewing 
> machine...
>
> @Johnny Alien: I saw someone at the Eroica in Italy who had done his whole 
> handlebar with twine. It looked cool but I thought no way I'd try it. Even 
> taping bars with normal tape tends to drive me demented. 
>
> @Leslie: what is Riv-ish when it comes to bike finishing and accessories? 
> For me, a few things:
> - Preference for materials that can be treated or repaired to keep 
> them usable, rather than materials that have to be thrown out when they 
> start to get tired
> - Preference for natural materials like cotton, twine and leather 
> that develop a patina 
> - Designs that don't have large ugly logos, and/or colours that 
> clash with Rivendell's colours
>
> @Everyone else: thanks for your suggestions. 
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:02, Sean B.  wrote:
>
>> I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end 
>> shifters from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors 
>> too. 
>>
>> https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>>
>>> If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into 
>>> the top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not 
>>> incredibly noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>>>
 I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube 
 protector is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the 
 bike on their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. 
 Unfortunately, it is currently sold out:
 Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 
 

 Leslie Tierstein
 Arlington VA

 On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to 
> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from 
> an environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very 
> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem 
> to fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of 
> their TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not 
> easily removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like 
> Carradice waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've 
> not 
> found anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
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[RBW] WTB Faceplater 31.8 85mm

[A. Douglas M.]

Hello all,

Trying to finish up a Frank Jones build. I’m going to run Salsa cowchippers 
and need a 31.8 quill. 

Anyone have one laying around they’re not using?

Thank you!

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

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[RBW] Re: FS: PARTS & ACCESSORIES (UPDATE)

['Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jock

Yes, the Park cable cutter is still available for $25.00. 

Thank you for you interest

Gunner

On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 12:23:39 PM UTC-4 Jock Dewey wrote:

> GP,  is the cable cutter still available @ $25?
>
> Thanks, Jock
>
> On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 6:06:39 AM UTC-7 gpgun...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> I have decided to pare down some parts duplicates.  Most if not all the 
>> parts listed are either new in the box, like new or have never been mounted 
>> on a frame. Pictures are included via Flickr. please feel free to PM me if 
>> you may have any questions.
>>
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW4KhM9
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your consideration
>>
>>
>> (1) SUGINO XD2 600   46/36/26  170MM   $125
>>
>> NEW/BOX
>>
>> (2) MKS SYLVAN TRACK PEDALS BLACK/CHROME  $25 (PAIR)-- *1 PAIR SOLD *
>>  
>>
>> NEW/BOX
>>
>> (1) STRONGLIGHT DELTA HEADSET *$*55.00---* SOLD*
>>
>> BRITISH  26.4   NEW/BOX
>>
>> (1) STRONGLIGHT A9 HEADSET $50.00---*SOLD*
>>
>> BRITISH 26.4  NEW/BOX
>>
>> (1)DURA ACE HB 7700 FRONT HUB$100
>>
>> 36 H  NEW/BOX
>>
>> (1) NITTO DREAM BAR 46 HEAT TREATED   $60.00*NEW PRICE $50.00 *
>>
>> MOD 176  NEW/ NEVER MOUNTED  
>>
>> (1) GILLES BERTHOUD FRONT RACK$75.00--*SOLD  *
>>
>> ADJUSTABLE W/ LIGHTING MOUNT
>>
>> CANTILEVER OR V BRAKESNEW
>>
>> (1) GILLES BERTHOUD SMALL SADDLE BAG  $45.00
>>
>> #GB288 BLACK   NEW
>>
>> (2) RIVENDELL BAGGINS BANNANA BAG  $100 (EACH) *NEW PRICE $80.00*
>>
>> NEW/NEVER USED
>>
>> (4) SCHWALBE MARATHON PLUS TIRES  $45.00 (EACH) *NEW PRICE $40.00*
>>
>> SMART GUARD 700C X 35   NEW
>>
>> (4) CONTI TOP TOURING 2000  $20.00 EACH--*SOLD*
>>
>> 700C X 32  NEW   (PROPERLY STORED)
>>
>> (4) TUBES 700C 35-43   $5.00 (EACH)---*SOLD*
>>
>> PRESTA
>>
>> (4) MAVIC MA3  RIMS   $45.00 (EACH) 
>>
>> 700C 36H  NEW
>>
>> (1) PARK CABLE/HOUSING CUTTER CN-10  $30.00 *NEW PRICE $25.00*
>>
>> NEW/POUCH
>>
>> (3) VINTAGE HURET/SIMPLEX DERAILLEUR CABLE  (NO CHARGE)
>>
>> (1) SIDI GENIUS 4 LORICA SHOE   $100  
>>
>> 43.0 NEW/BOX
>>
>> (1) SIDI TOURING SHOE   $125 
>>
>> 42.0 NEW/BOX
>>
>> *NEW ADDITIONS*
>>
>> NITTO M12 FRONT RACK (NEW)  *$75.00* 
>>
>>
>>
>> SHIPPING NOT INCLUDED
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] WTB: 48 Losco Bars, 25.4 Nitto Stem

[Johnny Alien]

I am tossing around giving one of my bikes a sweptback experience. I have 
an Albatross bar but I want something with less rise and less width. Its a 
trial so I would prefer to find a used Losco bar vs paying full price for 
new. 48 width only.  Anyone have one?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Den John]

@Sean B: Those Blue Lug pads are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
I may see if my wife can produce something similar with her sewing
machine...

@Johnny Alien: I saw someone at the Eroica in Italy who had done his whole
handlebar with twine. It looked cool but I thought no way I'd try it. Even
taping bars with normal tape tends to drive me demented.

@Leslie: what is Riv-ish when it comes to bike finishing and accessories?
For me, a few things:
- Preference for materials that can be treated or repaired to keep
them usable, rather than materials that have to be thrown out when they
start to get tired
- Preference for natural materials like cotton, twine and leather
that develop a patina
- Designs that don't have large ugly logos, and/or colours that
clash with Rivendell's colours

@Everyone else: thanks for your suggestions.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 18:02, Sean B.  wrote:

> I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end shifters
> from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors too.
>
> https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>
>> If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into the
>> top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not incredibly
>> noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector
>>> is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on
>>> their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it
>>> is currently sold out:
>>> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear
>>> 
>>>
>>> Leslie Tierstein
>>> Arlington VA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes?

 Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to
 peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from
 an environmental perspective.

 BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very
 good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment.

 I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem
 to fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo
 Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A
 home made leather TT cover might work I suppose.

 I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of
 their TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not
 easily removable once it's been done.

 What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice
 waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found
 anyone who makes something like that.

 Any other ideas?

 Cheers,
 Johnny


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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Sean B.]

I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end shifters 
from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors too. 

https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:

> If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into the 
> top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not incredibly 
> noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>
>> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector 
>> is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on 
>> their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it 
>> is currently sold out:
>> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 
>> 
>>
>> Leslie Tierstein
>> Arlington VA
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>>
>>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to 
>>> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from 
>>> an environmental perspective. 
>>>
>>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very 
>>> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>>
>>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>>
>>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>>> removable once it's been done. 
>>>
>>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: bars, camping stuff, musa-ish shorts, rack

[Drw]

updated list

*-Nitto/Fairweather Bullmoose threadless. *nearly new. 710mm wide. really 
pretty and look awesome on a bike, but like most flat bars, they dont play 
well with my wrists. 75$

*-Old man mountain sherpa rack*- Info Here 
. 
got this off the list to see if it would work on a bike friday without the 
extenders (it does, for anyone with a small wheel bike interested), but i 
just dont need a rack on that bike. It has some minor aesthetic wear to the 
paint, and the stays are pre-bent, otherwise great shape. I can throw in 
some long standard round stays, if interested. Works on front or rear- 90$


*-Topo Designs River shorts- *size large/ 32-35ish, esla black. These are 
the closest shorts ive seen to the riv MUSA shorts. unworn, i think, or 
maybe just once. -45$ *shipped*

-*Banks Journal Shorts*- size 34 (but a true 34, so more like a 32), 5.5in 
inseam. Khaki nylon. Also very similar to MUSA shorts, but with a zippered 
fly and an interior drawstring. New. Really wanted these to work, but im a 
regular 34, not a true 34 these days.-40$ *shipped*

*-Snowpeak Shorts- *sizing is weird cause i got these in Japan, id say if 
you are a 33-34 regularly, these will fit. 9" inseam. Navy Nylon. Cargo 
pocket on one side. Front button could use some securing, but otherwise 
good shape.  30$ *shipped*

*Shorts deal- *take all above shorts for 100$ shipped


*-Matador Beast 28 packable backpack- *all black huckberry version. 28L 
pack that can fold up into it's own compression sack shown with margarita 
can for size comparison. This has more structure than a lot of packable 
bags, and a lot more functionality. Selling it only to get the newer 
version. 2 exterior water bottle slots, hydration bladder port, small upper 
pocket, expandable outer pocket and main compartment. waist and sternum 
straps. info HERE 
-
 
55$ shipped


On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 3:49:53 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:

> Continuing the culling. Anything under a pound has shipping included, 
> anything over will need shipping to be calculated. 
> Photos HERE 
>
> *Bike Stuff*
> *-Nitto/Fairweather Bullmoose threadless. *nearly new. 710mm wide. really 
> pretty and look awesome on a bike, but like most flat bars, they dont play 
> well with my wrists. 75$
>
> *-Old man mountain sherpa rack*- Info Here 
> .
>  
> got this off the list to see if it would work on a bike friday without the 
> extenders (it does, for anyone with a small wheel bike interested), but i 
> just dont need a rack on that bike. It has some minor aesthetic wear to the 
> paint, and the stays are pre-bent, otherwise great shape. I can throw in 
> some long standard round stays, if interested. Works on front or rear- 90$
>
> *-Spank 25 Flare Dirt Drops- *purchased from Analog, mounted but never 
> ridden. info HERE 
> . coming 
> down on the price, as shipping will likely be something,   so 75$
>
> *Shorts*
> *-Topo Designs River shorts- *size large/ 32-35ish, esla black. These are 
> the closest shorts ive seen to the riv MUSA shorts. unworn, i think, or 
> maybe just once. -45$ *shipped*
>
> -*Banks Journal Shorts*- size 34 (but a true 34, so more like a 32), 
> 5.5in inseam. Khaki nylon. Also very similar to MUSA shorts, but with a 
> zippered fly and an interior drawstring. New. Really wanted these to work, 
> but im a regular 34, not a true 34 these days.-40$ *shipped*
>
> *-Snowpeak Shorts- *sizing is weird cause i got these in Japan, id say if 
> you are a 33-34 regularly, these will fit. 9" inseam. Navy Nylon. Cargo 
> pocket on one side. Front button could use some securing, but otherwise 
> good shape.  30$ *shipped*
>
> *Shorts deal- *take all above shorts for 100$ shipped
>
> *Camping*
> *-Big Agnes Yampa 45 quilt- *This is great for bikepacking in moderate 
> weather. Downtek insulation. It's a quilt, so your sleeping pad slides in a 
> slot on the back, and there is no bottom side. Super lightweight, and fits 
> in a xs compression sack, so about nalgene bottle sized. Compression sack 
> not included. This has been stored uncompressed and used on only 2 
> overnighters, so it's in excellent condition. discontinued but info HERE 
> 
> -100$ 
>
> *-Matador Beast 28 packable backpack- *all black huckberry version. 28L 
> pack that can fold up into it's own compression sack shown with margarita 
> 

[RBW] Re: Cerdan Crankset

[Cyclofiend Jim]

This idea has been around a long time. If you go back into The Data Book, 
you'll see early drawings of spring-loaded cranksets. There was "BikeDrive" 
a few years ago, and there have been more throughout the decades. They have 
not caught on yet, which I don't think is a bad thing. It complicates an 
otherwise simple and direct power mechanism which works fine. 

- J



On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

>
> https://www.designboom.com/technology/cerdan-crankset-increases-pedaling-power-06-30-2021/
> See above link:
>
> I find this design fascinating so thought I'd share it with the Group. 
> This isn't electronic shifting or carbon but good ole mechanical and metal. 
> Could this innovation become accepted in the mainstream cycling world?
> Doug
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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Drw]

If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into the 
top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not incredibly 
noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:

> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector 
> is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on 
> their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it 
> is currently sold out:
> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 
> 
>
> Leslie Tierstein
> Arlington VA
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
>> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
>> environmental perspective. 
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
>> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>> removable once it's been done. 
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: parts bin clean-out

[Thomas Lawn]

Didn’t most of this stuff sell through on the ibob list last week?
On Jul 6, 2021, 7:51 AM -0700, abraham nussbaum , wrote:
> Say goodbye, it's Independence Day and it is time to liberate several 
> items from my parts bin. All items will ship from Denver, CO (local pickup 
> available) and shipping is extra. Payment via PayPal F/F.
>
> 1. H+Son TB14 32H wheelset rebuilt by Boulder's Excel Cycles with vintage 
> Campy Chorus hub, DT Swiss Competition 14-15 gauge spokes, with brass 
> nipples, and Chinook Pass 700 * 28 $250
> 2. Thomson Elite Seatpost + Binder for 29.8 mm $50
> 3. Token BB BS68 JIS 103 $10
> 4. Brooks Cambium C17 red $25
> 5. MKS Quarter Clips (pair) $5
> 6. Campy Potenza rim calipers (pair) $75
> 7. Specialized 110mm stem $5
> 8. Nitto Simworks bars 380 (black/new) $60
> 9. Gravel cockpit: ultegra shifters, deda tape, Whisky bars, ultegra hydro 
> brakes $150
> 10. Shimano 105 RD $25
> 11. Silca Ultimate Impero Frame Pump (XL) $90
> 12. Timbuk2 messenger laptop bag (standard) $10
> 13. Timbuk2 messenger laptop bag (custom) $20
> 14. Campy Potenza 53/39 crankset w/cups $90
> 15. Garmin Forerunner35 w. bike mount + charging cable $30
>
> Cruddy photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TLFn7BmytNV79DPJ9
>
> Willing to trade for Swift Motherload, ShopSack, a size large steel frame.
>
> (Apologies for cross-post to ibob)
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Al in SF]

Two Rivs in Palm Springs:

55cm green Appaloosa 
- 
https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/bik/d/rancho-mirage-rivendell-appaloosa-55cm/7345908501.html
51cm sage Hillborne 
- 
https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/bik/d/rancho-mirage-rivendell-hillborne-51cm/7345893402.html


...if anyone's got a friend selling a *55cm* sage Hillborne, lmk!

Al in SF

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Leslie Tierstein]

I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector is 
by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on their 
shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it is 
currently sold out:
Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 


Leslie Tierstein
Arlington VA

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Iowa 2021

[Josh Thompson]

Yep, this will be my 6th RAGBRAI, the first on my Atlantis.  All prior ones 
were on my Lemond Tourmalet.  I recently rode that for the first time since 
I got my Riv in December of 2019 and couldn't believe how much more 
comfortable my Atlantis is.  Really looking forward to this year.  Hope to 
see you out there.

Josh Thompson
Estherville, IA

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:10:39 PM UTC-5 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello Rusty, 
>
> I remember meeting you on the last day of RAGBRAI 2018. I'll not be there 
> this year. I hope that you and your daughter have a great week!   
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 1:58:56 PM UTC-5 Rusty Click wrote:
>
>> Any listers planning on riding their Rivendell steeds across Iowa this 
>> year?
>>
>> I'll be taking my MUSA Atlantis this year and I'll be riding with my 
>> daughter for her first ever RAGBRAI.  I've met Julian briefly, and missed 
>> Tim G a few times. 
>>
>> Rusty Click
>> Pgh, PA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riv'ing out a kids bike

[Gabriel DeFelippis]

Would be nice to find a rigid replacement for the front fork. Not sure why 
a 24 inch bike needs suspension. If anything I want my kids to be shooken 
up a little bit. I'll update this thread as the bike becomes more 
rivendellian. Right now I've picked up a specialized hotrock 24 off 
craigslist and pulled it all apart. I am thinking about stripping the paint 
and clearcoating the aluminum. Maybe it'll look like an airstream when I'm 
done

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> I zip tied a strawberry basket to my son’s handlebars and he loved it. 
>
> They all have bells.
>
> I also cut up reflective tape and let him put it where he wants. 
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron in El Paso 
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 4:13:25 PM UTC-6 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> Great topic.  The approach at our house was, I took my 7-year-old 
>> daughter to the art supply store and she picked out spray paint.  Then we 
>> stripped her bike (a very un-Riv hand-me-down with a suspension fork and 
>> grip shifters) to the frame and hung it from a tree branch, and she painted 
>> it (green and blue, it took her 5 minutes).  Then we put it back together 
>> (mostly I did, but she helped) and put a basket on it.
>>
>> So it's Riv'd out in the sense that she made choices about it, the whole 
>> process was fun, and she loves it.  She knows how the gears work.  When 
>> she's taller we'll find another cool frame and then we'll work on friction 
>> shifting.
>>
>> We kept the components intact, including the handlebar--she doesn't care 
>> about that.  We added a bell and the gaudiest reflectors I could find.  And 
>> we didn't spend much money, so I don't freak out when I see it standing in 
>> the driveway without a lock on it.
>>
>> Jim in Rochester
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:06:05 AM UTC-4 gabe.de...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been thinking about this a lot lately and wanted to know if anyone 
>>> has done this to a kids bike. Did the children immediately roll their eyes? 
>>> What kind of handlebars did you use? Most kids bikes come in either an 
>>> extreme paint color or a highly feminine paint color, did you repaint it to 
>>> something more pleasing for everyone?
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: parts bin clean-out

[abraham nussbaum]

*Say goodbye, it's Independence Day* and it is time to liberate several 
items from my parts bin. All items will ship from Denver, CO (local pickup 
available) and shipping is extra. Payment via PayPal F/F.

   1. H+Son TB14 32H wheelset rebuilt by Boulder's Excel Cycles with 
   vintage Campy Chorus hub, DT Swiss Competition 14-15 gauge spokes, with 
   brass nipples, and Chinook Pass 700 * 28 $250
   2. Thomson Elite Seatpost + Binder for 29.8 mm $50
   3. Token BB BS68 JIS 103 $10
   4. Brooks Cambium C17 red $25
   5. MKS Quarter Clips (pair) $5
   6. Campy Potenza rim calipers (pair) $75
   7. Specialized 110mm stem $5
   8. Nitto Simworks bars 380 (black/new) $60
   9. Gravel cockpit: ultegra shifters, deda tape, Whisky bars, ultegra 
   hydro brakes $150
   10. Shimano 105 RD $25
   11. Silca Ultimate Impero Frame Pump (XL) $90
   12. Timbuk2 messenger laptop bag (standard) $10
   13. Timbuk2 messenger laptop bag (custom) $20
   14. Campy Potenza 53/39 crankset w/cups $90
   15. Garmin Forerunner35 w. bike mount + charging cable $30

Cruddy photos here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/TLFn7BmytNV79DPJ9

Willing to trade for Swift Motherload, ShopSack, a size large steel frame.

(Apologies for cross-post to ibob)

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[RBW] Re: WTB- 2 Silver Bar End Pods (and/or Silver Shifters)

[abraham nussbaum]

...unsolicited endorsement: I bought a pod from Bill last week and it works 
great. It was just the trick.

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:52:25 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I have a couple sets of Shimano Pods, and a new pair of Silver Shifters.  
> The Shimano pods have a small bump-out on the square protruberance that 
> serves as a guide when assembling in an all-Shimano setup.  That bump out 
> gets in the way with a Silver setup, but it's not difficult to scrub that 
> off.  
>
> Let me know if you want any of those bits, including if you want me to do 
> the work to get you a complete working set of Silver shifters on Shimano 
> pods.  
>
> Silver shifters would have retailed at $35 each and pods would have 
> retailed at $28 each.  I can provide you with a complete Silver-on-Shimano 
> setup for $80 shipped.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:06:05 AM UTC-7 michaels...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looking for the Silver bar-end pods mainly since they don't have them 
>> currently in stock. However, if you already have some set up with shifters 
>> let me know if you would be willing to part with them. Thanks in advance!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: (ibob x post) Nitto, IRD, Rene Herse, Chris King

[GreenLegsNotHam]

Thanks all for the interest. Only the handlebars and bottom bracket remain. 
All other items are spoken for. 

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:10:03 PM UTC-4 CapNMike wrote:

> Hi. I'll bite on the IRD Needleblaster Headset.
>
> -Mike
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-4 greenle...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> All prices include shipping to USA and Canada
>>
>> Chris King Nothreadset (1" threadless) missing crown race and top cap $25
>>
>> IRD QB-95 Bottom Bracket 107mm, installed for chainline fit otherwise not 
>> used $70
>>
>> IRD  NeedleBlasteur threaded headset, (needle bearing bottom/ ball 
>> bearing top) installed but not used $60 
>>
>> Rene Herse Decaleur Fits Nitto NP Technomic or Pearl Stem, new $140
>>
>> Nitto Pearl 8 stem (same as NP stem) 80mm, new $65
>>
>> Nitto B135AA SSB Randonneur Handlebar 31.8 clamp diameter 42mm width, 
>> new $75
>>
>> photos:
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/182570840@N02/albums/72157719464958078/with/51276347555/
>>
>>
>> Please contact me at greenlegsnotham (at) gmail (dot) com
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> John
>> Buffalo, NY
>>
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Re: [RBW] Cerdan Crankset

[Jay]

I would love to test this against an oval chainring.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 11:06 AM Doug H.  wrote:

>
> https://www.designboom.com/technology/cerdan-crankset-increases-pedaling-power-06-30-2021/
> See above link:
>
> I find this design fascinating so thought I'd share it with the Group.
> This isn't electronic shifting or carbon but good ole mechanical and metal.
> Could this innovation become accepted in the mainstream cycling world?
> Doug
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[RBW] FS: Nitto S83 26.8 Seatpost

[Doug H.]

I have a black ceramic-coated Nitto S83 seatpost for sale. Inserted in 
frame but never used on a ride. 26.8 diameter, not 27.2 See photos in 
linked album. $100 shipped continental U.S.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/P2mHkUh19Le2yyke7

Doug
Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: Platypus owners - what would you mount to the top of the fork blades

[Johnny Alien]

That is for rack mounting.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/products/RBW-Nitto-RBW-51-Rack-Sqr-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1569271648

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:15:28 AM UTC-4 Jay LePree wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> I am super impressed with the Platypus.  An extra nod to Analogue cycles 
> who selected/recommended the parts and did an excellent job building it up 
> for me.  Analoque is a top notch dealer. 
>
> I had a question.  What accessories would mount to the top of the fork 
> blades?  (I have M5 allan nuts in holes now.) 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay 
> Demarest, NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus owners - what would you mount to the top of the fork blades

[Ginz]

A Nitto Mark's rack can be situated so that offset stays are parallel to 
the ground and bolted to the top of the fork crown.  I tried it once and it 
made the rack ride very high.

I'm not sure what else can be done, but those bosses have been on forks for 
quite a few years now.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 9:15:28 AM UTC-4 Jay LePree wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> I am super impressed with the Platypus.  An extra nod to Analogue cycles 
> who selected/recommended the parts and did an excellent job building it up 
> for me.  Analoque is a top notch dealer. 
>
> I had a question.  What accessories would mount to the top of the fork 
> blades?  (I have M5 allan nuts in holes now.) 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay 
> Demarest, NJ
>

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[RBW] Platypus owners - what would you mount to the top of the fork blades

[Jay LePree]

Hi all:

I am super impressed with the Platypus.  An extra nod to Analogue cycles 
who selected/recommended the parts and did an excellent job building it up 
for me.  Analoque is a top notch dealer. 

I had a question.  What accessories would mount to the top of the fork 
blades?  (I have M5 allan nuts in holes now.) 

Thanks,

Jay 
Demarest, NJ

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Michael Morrissey]

Here’s the twine instructions from Rivendell:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzehUKAztnO8MzEwYWZiYjItY2NlNC00MWM3LWI0ODItZmY5MzBmMDJkMjU2


On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Great question. My top tube is looking not so fresh any more. I am going 
> to change things up a bit. First, I just bought little bolt on adaptors 
> that allow you to run a full cabled brake cable on the top. I carry my bike 
> up and down stairs all the time so I want to do this. 
> These are the adaptors:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Juscycling-Hydraulic-Housing-Adaptor-Conversion/dp/B07L21FBX3
>
> Next, I’ll either sticker the spots that commonly rub against bike racks, 
> or I’ll wrap some of it in twine like Rivendell commonly does. 
>
> Last option is buying a top tube pad or frame bag. I normally just run one 
> Ortlieb bag though and don’t often need more storage. 
>
> Michael 
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>
>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
>> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
>> environmental perspective. 
>>
>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
>> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>
>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>
>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>> removable once it's been done. 
>>
>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi!

Great question. My top tube is looking not so fresh any more. I am going to 
change things up a bit. First, I just bought little bolt on adaptors that 
allow you to run a full cabled brake cable on the top. I carry my bike up 
and down stairs all the time so I want to do this. 
These are the adaptors:
https://www.amazon.com/Juscycling-Hydraulic-Housing-Adaptor-Conversion/dp/B07L21FBX3

Next, I’ll either sticker the spots that commonly rub against bike racks, 
or I’ll wrap some of it in twine like Rivendell commonly does. 

Last option is buying a top tube pad or frame bag. I normally just run one 
Ortlieb bag though and don’t often need more storage. 

Michael 

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Johnny Alien]

One time I did it with all twine and then shellac'd it.  Reasoning in my 
mind was that the bar tape would be hard to get off (as you mentioned) and 
that twine would be easy to remove. Regardless of reasoning it took me a 
long time to wrap twine for that length and I would likely never do it 
again.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
>
>

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[RBW] Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Den John]

Hello,

What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 

Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
environmental perspective. 

BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 

I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 

I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their TT 
but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
removable once it's been done. 

What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
anyone who makes something like that.

Any other ideas?

Cheers,
Johnny


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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Atlantis MIT (650B)

[Ian Dickson]

Sale is pending on the wheels. That was quick.

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 12:26:19 AM UTC-6 Ian Dickson wrote:

> I'm selling my Atlantis. Frame, fork and headset, $1100 plus actual cost 
> of shipping via bikeflights. I rode this quite a bit, mostly on the road, 
> until I got my Sam. Then I didn't ride it all. I can't say why I prefer the 
> Sam -- they both ride great, my speed was the same on both bikes, and the 
> Atlantis is more versatile. I just really like the Sam. 
>
> Frame is generally in great shape, with some tiny chips and three 
> significant gouges to the paint. The worst is on the drive-side chainstay, 
> from a chainsuck incident (I wouldn't go past 2.1" tires on this frame if I 
> were you). There's another on a seatstay, and one on the bottom bracket 
> shell. You can see them well enough in the flickr photos. It's just paint 
> damage, but you'll want to seal those spots with something. I have never 
> crashed this bike.
>
> I've also got a pair of Velocity-built wheels (these 
> )
>  
> that I'll throw in for $200 if you want them. If somebody wants the wheels 
> but not the bike, they're yours for $250 shipped. 
>
> More photos here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW8ZTTf
> [image: Atlantis right.jpg]
>

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