[RBW] Re: measured speed differences between road and touring bikes

[Clark Fitzgerald]

PS - No drafting allowed! 

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 9:12:34 PM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> What is the difference in speed between a conventional road bike and an 
> unloaded touring bike set up in typical Rivendell style? I'm asking for 
> measurements and data, simply because I'm curious.
>
> My touring bike (Riv Atlantis) was 82% of the speed of my road bike 
> (Bianchi San Jose) on my rides last week, about 3 mph difference.
>
> I rode both bikes on the same 40 mile loop with 1100 feet elevation gain. 
> I wore tight spandex and clipless shoes on the road bike, and averaged 16.4 
> mph. After one rest day, I wore casual clothes on the touring bike, and 
> averaged 13.5 mph on the same loop. I worked a little harder on the road 
> bike because of the more aggressive position.
>
> Here are the two bikes for reference.
>
> [image: bianchi.png][image: atlantis.png]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Rivendell SimpleOne Complete Bike

[Jared Wilson]

Sold, thanks Miles!

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 2:15:11 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hello Friends
>
> Haven't been riding enough lately to justify having more than one bike, so 
> up for grabs is this awesome Rivendell single speed/fixed gear.
>
> She has her fair share of chips and imperfections, worst being a *SMALL 
> *little 
> ding in the top tube, I tried to capture in photo but its so small it's 
> actually very difficult to accurately represent.
>
> -58cm Rivendell Simpleone Frame/Fork
> -Tange headset
> -Rivendell/Nitto Faceplater 85cm stem with green SimWorks "cap" thingy
> -Rivendell Tosco 55cm handlebars with Origin8 levers and ESI grips
> -Shimano Deore T-610 Brakes with Kool Stop ebike pads
> -Selle Anatomica X1 Black/Copper with beveled edges (almost new condition)
> -Generic seatpost
> -Shimano UN-300 bottom bracket
> -IRD Defiant 165mm 144bcd crankset w/ matching 46t chainring
> -MKS BM-7 black/silver pedals/MKS NJS Medium Toe Clips/MKS Alpha natural 
> straps
> -KMC Chain
> -All-City 17t stainless cog (15t EAI and 21t Surly included as well)
> -700c Mavic (Open Sport front/Open Pro rear) to Origin8 hubs
> -Clement X'plor 700x40 tires
>
> Located in San Luis Obispo, can meet in SF Bay Area 23rd-26th or I'm happy 
> to have the LBS pack/ship at buyers expense.
>
> *$1000*
>
>
> *SimpleOne Photos 
> *
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Susie in a downhill bike park

[Philip Williamson]

I would have loved to see that. 
I would subscribe to your YouTube channel!

Philip
Santa Rosa, Ca 

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 3:50:45 PM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thought folks might be interested in my recent experience taking my Susie 
> to Deer Valley lift-serviced downhill bike park.  Overall it was highly 
> enjoyable despite dealing with ridiculous bros.
>
> Got a ton of looks and comments, ranging from very positive ("Right on!", 
> "Old school!", "Love it!") to puzzled and dismissive ("good luck, buddy").
>
> She handled great! I don't ride downhill hardly ever, but she was super 
> balanced even on the black diamond stuff that the bros were tearing down. I 
> was able to keep up with my friends who were basically riding soft dually 
> suspended pillows. I found my Tosco bars to be perfect for the descents, 
> and my 2.5" Terravail's at 10psi to be enough to absorb a lot of the bumps 
> and grippy in tight corners.
>
> I was a little nervous about how she would do on some fairly gnarly 
> terrain and she was great.  Not looking to spend too much time at bike 
> parks, but good to know she is up for the challenge if I do.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 26" Cliffhanger/XT wheel set and Brooks B68

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Wheel set price drop - $450

26" Cliffhanger wheel set with XT hubs.  All black color. Built by Rich 
Lesnik.  I bought these for the MIT Atlantics that I rode for less than 200 
miles.  Since I sold that frame last year, these have been sitting in the 
garage.  Practically new condition.  My cost was $550.
 
I'm not sure how to ship wheels, hence local Bay Area (South Bay) pick up 
only.  I'm open to meeting half way as well.  

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mnfr5COv5Nurcg22U_LV4nt77EkZfK98/view?usp=sharing

On Sunday, 11 July 2021 at 20:48:43 UTC-7 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:

> B68 saddle is sold.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 12:17:28 UTC-7 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
>>
>>1. 26" Cliffhanger wheel set with XT hubs.  All black color. Built by 
>>Rich Lesnik.  I bought these for the MIT Atlantics that I rode for less 
>>than 200 miles.  Since I sold that frame last year, these have been 
>> sitting 
>>in the garage.  Practically new condition.   I'm not sure how to ship 
>>wheels, hence local Bay Area (South Bay) pick up only.  I'm open to 
>> meeting 
>>half way as well.  Price $475 (my cost was $550)
>>
>>2. Brooks B68 Saddle.  It is in very good condition.  Acquired from a 
>>local seller.  Had it on my Susie only for a day.  Took it off because I 
>>felt that this color didn't go well with the overall aesthetics of the 
>>bike. Now I have the C67 because it is black!
>>Price $110 (shipped within contiguous USA).  Feels silly but I paid 
>>more than this for it.
>>
>> Pictures:
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Mnfr5COv5Nurcg22U_LV4nt77EkZfK98/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for looking!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid rise polarizing

[Joe Bernard]

Just ride backwards. 



On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 3:50:46 PM UTC-7 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's basically correct.  Its a bicycle with a backwards derailleur, get 
> use it, and using is the most important item! 
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:51 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Of course the whole issue with "counterintuitive" - which I raised 
>> earlier - goes out the window on a 1x. I had difficulty relearning which 
>> way the levers went on a 2-levers bike. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:10:11 AM UTC-7 Jim M. wrote:
>>
>>> The main advantage I find with Rapid Rise is that it shifts to a lower 
>>> gear much more easily when you're pedaling uphill, which I've found more 
>>> useful on steep mountain bike routes than with road biking. I've had an RR 
>>> derailleur on one bike and standard on another and in my experience I never 
>>> had a problem going back and forth. I echo Bill's comment that shifting is 
>>> pretty simple on a bike whichever direction you're going.
>>>
>>> jim m
>>> walnut creek
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:54:20 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Sorry, low-normal. RapidRise. That thing. 



 On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:43:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I read Question 1 as info about high-normal derailers in general, not 
> info on the one Grant is working on. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:53:02 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Sam Perez asked three questions, but has only received answers to the 
>> third of the three.  I'll attempt to answer all three:
>>
>> 1.  Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD?
>>
>> I think there is too much.  Grant is genuinely excited about the 
>> project and I think he can't help but share a little.  If it were me I'd 
>> keep silent on it until it exists to buy.  It may never happen, so 
>> pushing 
>> info and then killing it will be a bummer.  Also, so many people are 
>> willing to bellyache about Rapid Rise, why invite all the bellyachers to 
>> badmouth a part that doesn't exist yet?
>>
>> 2.   why is it so polarizing?
>>
>> I don't know for sure, but I have a ton of ideas, too long a list to 
>> get into.  It is confusing to me how popular it is to badmouth the Rapid 
>> Rise RD.  I think it's the contrarian position now to say you like Rapid 
>> Rise.
>>
>> 3.  Any experience thoughts insights?
>>
>> Lots of experience, lots of thoughts.  Up to you if they qualify as 
>> insights.  I bought up a bunch of M760 rear derailers when they were 
>> going 
>> out of production.  That RD is on 4 of my 18 builds, and I have no 
>> trouble 
>> remembering how to shift any of my bikes.  Maybe it's because I'm a 
>> mechanic that I understand how things work.  Maybe it's because I have a 
>> lot of bikes and use them all a lot that I can remember how to use each 
>> of 
>> them, despite their differences.  Maybe it's because each of my builds 
>> is 
>> different and because I've really carefully executed each build that 
>> each 
>> bike for me has a "profile" that I have no problem recalling.  I imagine 
>> a 
>> lot of people prefer to use their bike without much thought.  For some 
>> people, a great compliment for a bicycle is that it 'disappears'.  For 
>> others, it's something like "I don't want to be bothered remembering 
>> that 
>> backwards shifting.  I just want to ride my bike"
>>
>> I think shifting gears on a bicycle is dead-simple no matter what you 
>> use.  I think getting wrapped around the axle between different shifting 
>> approaches is kind of crazy.  It's like handwringing about tying your 
>> shoes, because slip-ons are so much simpler.  It's all simple.  Use what 
>> you want to use and enjoy your ride!
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys, 
>>> Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD and why is it so 
>>> polarizing. Sources include bike snob grants blog and random internet 
>>> sources. Takeaways were finicky and needing frequent adjustment but 
>>> also 
>>> great concept and easy down shifting. Any experience thoughts insights? 
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Johnny Alien]

Its pretty much a new price with a free crank.  If it were me I would 
probably wait for new ones to come in but if you need one now there aren't 
many out there so paying top dollar seems to be the name of the game.
On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 12:58:31 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
> .
>  
> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
> do you think? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid rise polarizing

[Victor Hanson]

That's basically correct.  Its a bicycle with a backwards derailleur, get
use it, and using is the most important item!


On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:51 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Of course the whole issue with "counterintuitive" - which I raised earlier
> - goes out the window on a 1x. I had difficulty relearning which way the
> levers went on a 2-levers bike.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:10:11 AM UTC-7 Jim M. wrote:
>
>> The main advantage I find with Rapid Rise is that it shifts to a lower
>> gear much more easily when you're pedaling uphill, which I've found more
>> useful on steep mountain bike routes than with road biking. I've had an RR
>> derailleur on one bike and standard on another and in my experience I never
>> had a problem going back and forth. I echo Bill's comment that shifting is
>> pretty simple on a bike whichever direction you're going.
>>
>> jim m
>> walnut creek
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:54:20 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, low-normal. RapidRise. That thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:43:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I read Question 1 as info about high-normal derailers in general, not
 info on the one Grant is working on.



 On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:53:02 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Sam Perez asked three questions, but has only received answers to the
> third of the three.  I'll attempt to answer all three:
>
> 1.  Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD?
>
> I think there is too much.  Grant is genuinely excited about the
> project and I think he can't help but share a little.  If it were me I'd
> keep silent on it until it exists to buy.  It may never happen, so pushing
> info and then killing it will be a bummer.  Also, so many people are
> willing to bellyache about Rapid Rise, why invite all the bellyachers to
> badmouth a part that doesn't exist yet?
>
> 2.   why is it so polarizing?
>
> I don't know for sure, but I have a ton of ideas, too long a list to
> get into.  It is confusing to me how popular it is to badmouth the Rapid
> Rise RD.  I think it's the contrarian position now to say you like Rapid
> Rise.
>
> 3.  Any experience thoughts insights?
>
> Lots of experience, lots of thoughts.  Up to you if they qualify as
> insights.  I bought up a bunch of M760 rear derailers when they were going
> out of production.  That RD is on 4 of my 18 builds, and I have no trouble
> remembering how to shift any of my bikes.  Maybe it's because I'm a
> mechanic that I understand how things work.  Maybe it's because I have a
> lot of bikes and use them all a lot that I can remember how to use each of
> them, despite their differences.  Maybe it's because each of my builds is
> different and because I've really carefully executed each build that each
> bike for me has a "profile" that I have no problem recalling.  I imagine a
> lot of people prefer to use their bike without much thought.  For some
> people, a great compliment for a bicycle is that it 'disappears'.  For
> others, it's something like "I don't want to be bothered remembering that
> backwards shifting.  I just want to ride my bike"
>
> I think shifting gears on a bicycle is dead-simple no matter what you
> use.  I think getting wrapped around the axle between different shifting
> approaches is kind of crazy.  It's like handwringing about tying your
> shoes, because slip-ons are so much simpler.  It's all simple.  Use what
> you want to use and enjoy your ride!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> Why is there so little info on rapid rise RD and why is it so
>> polarizing. Sources include bike snob grants blog and random internet
>> sources. Takeaways were finicky and needing frequent adjustment but also
>> great concept and easy down shifting. Any experience thoughts insights?
>>
>> Thanks
>
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[RBW] Susie in a downhill bike park

[Benjamin Park]

Thought folks might be interested in my recent experience taking my Susie 
to Deer Valley lift-serviced downhill bike park.  Overall it was highly 
enjoyable despite dealing with ridiculous bros.

Got a ton of looks and comments, ranging from very positive ("Right on!", 
"Old school!", "Love it!") to puzzled and dismissive ("good luck, buddy").

She handled great! I don't ride downhill hardly ever, but she was super 
balanced even on the black diamond stuff that the bros were tearing down. I 
was able to keep up with my friends who were basically riding soft dually 
suspended pillows. I found my Tosco bars to be perfect for the descents, 
and my 2.5" Terravail's at 10psi to be enough to absorb a lot of the bumps 
and grippy in tight corners.

I was a little nervous about how she would do on some fairly gnarly terrain 
and she was great.  Not looking to spend too much time at bike parks, but 
good to know she is up for the challenge if I do.

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[RBW] Re: WTB Silver downtube shifters or similar

[J C]

shifters found! thank you all

-james

On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 5:12:38 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> I see the new version of Silver shifters are available on the RBW webpage.
>
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 12:42:29 AM UTC-5 J C wrote:
>
>> Greetings! I hope everyone's summer is off to a nice start. 
>>
>> With the local bike kitchen still closed to the public and craigslist 
>> prices through the roof I was hoping someone might have a set of Silver 
>> downtube shifters or similar that they are willing to part with?
>>
>> Please let me know, thanks!
>>
>> James in Santa Barbara, CA
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooklyn CL listing Wilbury

[Colin Powers]

Nice.  Would be great to see the final build out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2021, at 10:10 AM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> This bike was bought by a Yale student from a CT owner.  Paid much much less 
> than he is asking. Not sure of the Wilbury geometry, cannot find it in and 
> searches.  
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 11:39:45 AM UTC-4 co...@headlamppictures.com 
>> wrote:
>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/d/new-york-52cm-wilbury-rivendell-bicycle/7347673214.html
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Re: [RBW] brompton in airports and airlines

[sam . perez . 2002]

It was a gamble but I brought mine aboard cloaked by the standard brompton bag, 
put the attached luggage under the seat in front and the brompton overhead for 
a weekender, the flight was mid size plane from sfo to LA. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Max S  wrote:
> 
> When I travelled internationally with a Brommie, I put it inside the Ikea 
> tyvek bag you mentioned, with a bit of cardboard around it to provide some 
> protection from bumps, etc. We had to check ours, however, possibly due to 
> the fact there were two flights involved. Would be very curious to hear from 
> others what their experience has been. 
> 
> - Max "unfolding events" in A2 
> 
>> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 5:55:54 PM UTC-4 boru...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks
>> This is encouraging
>> Thanks again
>> Bo
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 11:15 AM, J L  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bo,
>>> 
>>> This depends so much on the airline and the staff. That said, I have more 
>>> than once seen a brompton stashed in the overhead bin, no bag or anything. 
>>> 
>>> I would stash mine in a tyvek bag. As long as it fits the size requirements 
>>> for carry on it should be alright. 
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 11:00 AM, bo richardson  wrote:
> 
 what do airlines typically do about bromptons
 i intend to travel to europe on condor
 if i take my brompton will they accept it in a ikea tyvec bag?
 i have the brompton travel case with wheels
 but it is heavy and  bulky
 and a sea anchor after i arrive.
 
 Or does one build a cardboard box around it?
 
 Thoughts experiences advice
 
 Thanks
 
 Bo
 Bellingham
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[RBW] Re: FS: Racks n' Sacks n' More

[SpiralCage]

Hub Area Rack and Sacks have sold!

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 10:15:35 AM UTC-7 SpiralCage wrote:

> Hey Rivsters,
>
> Emptied out my storage place after three years and found a bunch of things 
> that I clearly am not using. Can be yours! I'm off on tour in a few weeks 
> so need to ship everything by Friday, July 23rd, so about a one week sale 
> here.  Please email me directly as I only check the group via the web.
>
> All items are sold as is, US shipping included, Paypal only unless you are 
> in WA and willing to come pick them up cash in hand. Will entertain offers, 
> taking the best one.
>
> Pictures here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157719555993322
>
>
> *Nitto Mark's Hub Area Rack with Hoop *
> *Sackville Hub Area Bag, pair, Olive  *
> *SOLD*
> These are absolute brand new. I bought them for a project that never 
> happened. Racks are still in the bag they came in and include the hoop to 
> link them.  Panniers were never even put on the rack, or even opened up. 
>  These are currently unavailable from Riv and were about $350 when I bought 
> them. A real steal!
>
> *Sackville Saddlebag $175*
> Tan waxed cavas. Can't really remember when I bought this. This is the 
> largest saddlebag I've ever bought but I'm pretty sure it was just the 
> medium back then. Looks about equivalent to the current "HappiSack".  It is 
> in remarkably good shape. I used it only on one or two tours as it was 
> overly large for my daily needs. There is some rubbing on the leather on 
> the bottom where it rested on the rack. Some rubbing marks where the straps 
> were pressed against it near the saddle loops.  Comes with the "kangaroo 
> pouch" that was introduced with this bag. No tears, zippers work great. All 
> straps in good shape, but I don't have the saddlebag straps. These are 
> available in two size from Riv.
>
> *Clem Rack with tail light mouth, and pannier rails - $75*
> Brand new, bought for a project that didn't materialize. These are still 
> in their original packaging and in the box from Riv with the invoice still 
> in it! I will simply seal the box and send it out to the lucky recipient. 
>
> *Nitto R12 Saddle Bag Supporter*: *$40*
> This is in very good shape, a little scuffing on the rubber attachment 
> point, but no tears in the rubber. This worked great but doesn't work with 
> the seat stays on my NFE.
>
> *Nitto Lugged Threadless Stem  $100*
> Used this for about two years on my NFE but switched it out for a riser 
> stem. Not likely to have a second treadless bike, so up for grabs. The 
> exterior is in perfect condition, some evidence of being attached to stem 
> and h'bars in the clamp areas. I think it is 9cm  but could be 10cm
>
> *Brooks Cambium C17 Slate   $75*
> Used this for a few years before I decided it just didn't quite fit my sit 
> bones. In very good shape, a little beausage around where the sit bones 
> would be.
>
> *Rivendell Reader CD-Rs $10*
> Four CD-Rs with Rivendell Readers 1-35 on them. These were sold by Riv 
> back in the day and are probably professionally duplicated. I stuck them in 
> the ol CD-Rom--still reads fine.
>
> *Other Bags*
> Non-Riv related items, but good bags that may be of interest. Pictures of 
> these on request
>
> *Arkel Grand Touring Pannier Set $450*
> GT-30 Front Panniers and GT-54 Rear Panniers. These are *the* classic 
> Arkel four bag touring set. I got these for my first tour in 2004 and used 
> them in my 2012 cross country tour. The GT-54's were only used on those two 
> tours and maybe a couple of random stuff hauling sessions. The GT-30's I 
> used extensively with my front pannier, rear saddlebag setup that is my 
> preference. They are in remarkably good shape, no tears in the fabric, no 
> issues, with zippers, straps or velcro. Some tears in the front mesh on the 
> GT-30s.  Back in the day I bought these in green which was discontinued 
> shortly after. I always used the rain covers (included!) on them, so there 
> is remarkably little fading. They use the old style mounting system, which 
> easily works on any rack and can be easily updated to the newer system 
>
> *Basil Urban Fold Messenger and Bicycle Pannier Bag - Black - 20 litres 
> $50*
> This was the best solution I ever found for commuting with a laptop. It 
> super easily attaches to a rack and it genuinely is usable as a briefcase 
> style bag. Super easy to open and insert laptop and to cover up the 
> attachment points to sling over the shoulder. 
>
> *Parktool CCP-22 Crank Puller $10*
> For some reason I have two of these. This one is new in packaging, never 
> opened or used.
>
> thanks for looking,
> Robert
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[RBW] FS: 58cm Rivendell SimpleOne Complete Bike

[Jared Wilson]

Hello Friends

Haven't been riding enough lately to justify having more than one bike, so 
up for grabs is this awesome Rivendell single speed/fixed gear.

She has her fair share of chips and imperfections, worst being a *SMALL *little 
ding in the top tube, I tried to capture in photo but its so small it's 
actually very difficult to accurately represent.

-58cm Rivendell Simpleone Frame/Fork
-Tange headset
-Rivendell/Nitto Faceplater 85cm stem with green SimWorks "cap" thingy
-Rivendell Tosco 55cm handlebars with Origin8 levers and ESI grips
-Shimano Deore T-610 Brakes with Kool Stop ebike pads
-Selle Anatomica X1 Black/Copper with beveled edges (almost new condition)
-Generic seatpost
-Shimano UN-300 bottom bracket
-IRD Defiant 165mm 144bcd crankset w/ matching 46t chainring
-MKS BM-7 black/silver pedals/MKS NJS Medium Toe Clips/MKS Alpha natural 
straps
-KMC Chain
-All-City 17t stainless cog (15t EAI and 21t Surly included as well)
-700c Mavic (Open Sport front/Open Pro rear) to Origin8 hubs
-Clement X'plor 700x40 tires

Located in San Luis Obispo, can meet in SF Bay Area 23rd-26th or I'm happy 
to have the LBS pack/ship at buyers expense.

*$1000*


*SimpleOne Photos 
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[RBW] Re: Platypus New Bike Day

[Roberta]

Joyce,

This was a long time coming.I think your comments "svelte, agile and 
beautiful" describes it well.   And with your wide tires, I bet you don't 
feel a pothole.  The honey saddle and grips give it such a soft edge--I 
love it.  And, metal fenders!  i wasn't going to fender mine, but changed 
my mind.  I got SKS, but those metal ones you have are so much nicer 
looking.  A very classy look!

I LOVE my AHHilsen, but end up pulling my Platy for more rides.  I think 
it's the feeling of freedom of the mixte design.  Your other bike is a Clem 
L, right, so you already know the joys of not worrying when you need to 
jump off bike quickly.

Many happy miles to you!

Roberta
On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 1:25:07 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> My, oh my!  Leah (and others) are right about the Platypus...svelte, agile 
> and beautiful.  I love the mermaid color and aside from acquiring a Nitto 
> rack when they're back in stock, I'm pretty happy with the build.  I 
> learned a lot by collecting the parts as I could find them and have a great 
> local bike shop that put it all together.  (Thanks Michael and Dan at 
> Bayview Bikes!).  What a delight to ride and I have to admit I often just 
> stand and stare because it's so pretty.  
>
> A few details:
> The metal fenders are from Velo Orange,  silver Zeppelin, 52mm.  Plenty of 
> room for the 48mm Soma Shikoro tires.  Other bits include Velocity Dyad 
> wheels, 32 spokes, White Industries hubs, made by Rich at RBW.  Bosco 
> handlebar with cork Ergon grips.  Selle Anatomica saddle. Nitto stem and 
> seatpost.  MKS all-around pedals that spin like there's no tomorrow.
>
> [image: IMG_9869.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Ohio all-rounder update?

[Jason D]

Yes he said it went to West Virginia which is my home state so I was happy 
to hear that a fellow mountaineer ended up with it. Of course I was tempted 
to pick it up for myself and just wear elevator shoes when I wanted to ride 
it.

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 1:32:35 PM UTC-4 dave_manze...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

> I talked to the owner. It sold the first day it was listed.
>
> On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 11:02:38 AM UTC-4 Paul Richardson wrote:
>
>> anybody on the board trek out and scoop up this deal-of-a-lifetime?  the 
>> listing is still alive on craigs...
>>
>> 
>>
>> paul
>> takoma park, md.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Missing Sackville bags models

[Bill Lindsay]

what color do you need?  I may have a bar tube...

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 12:06:12 PM UTC-7 Justin wrote:

> Can anyone confirm whether or not the Sackville Bar Tube and Tool Wrap are 
> discontinued?
>
> The pages are missing from the Riv website. I've just realized my Bar Tube 
> has come up missing and I don't anyone else really making similar and well 
> made in canvas as the Sackville
>
> thanks 
>

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[RBW] Re: Missing Sackville bags models

[Joe Bernard]

I can't confirm anything but I haven't seen a Bar Tube listed in years. 

Joe Bernard

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 12:06:12 PM UTC-7 Justin wrote:

> Can anyone confirm whether or not the Sackville Bar Tube and Tool Wrap are 
> discontinued?
>
> The pages are missing from the Riv website. I've just realized my Bar Tube 
> has come up missing and I don't anyone else really making similar and well 
> made in canvas as the Sackville
>
> thanks 
>

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[RBW] Missing Sackville bags models

[Justin]

Can anyone confirm whether or not the Sackville Bar Tube and Tool Wrap are 
discontinued?

The pages are missing from the Riv website. I've just realized my Bar Tube 
has come up missing and I don't anyone else really making similar and well 
made in canvas as the Sackville

thanks 

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Re: [RBW] brompton in airports and airlines

[Max S]

When I travelled internationally with a Brommie, I put it inside the Ikea 
tyvek bag you mentioned, with a bit of cardboard around it to provide some 
protection from bumps, etc. We had to check ours, however, possibly due to 
the fact there were two flights involved. Would be very curious to hear 
from others what their experience has been. 

- Max "unfolding events" in A2 

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 5:55:54 PM UTC-4 boru...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks
> This is encouraging
> Thanks again
> Bo
>
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 11:15 AM, J L  wrote:
>
> Bo,
>
> This depends so much on the airline and the staff. That said, I have more 
> than once seen a brompton stashed in the overhead bin, no bag or anything. 
>
> I would stash mine in a tyvek bag. As long as it fits the size 
> requirements for carry on it should be alright. 
>
> Jason
>
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 11:00 AM, bo richardson  wrote:
>
> what do airlines typically do about bromptons
> i intend to travel to europe on condor
> if i take my brompton will they accept it in a ikea tyvec bag?
> i have the brompton travel case with wheels
> but it is heavy and  bulky
> and a sea anchor after i arrive.
>
> Or does one build a cardboard box around it?
>
> Thoughts experiences advice
>
> Thanks
>
> Bo
> Bellingham
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[RBW] Re: Ohio all-rounder update?

[dave_manze...@yahoo.com]

I talked to the owner. It sold the first day it was listed.

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 11:02:38 AM UTC-4 Paul Richardson wrote:

> anybody on the board trek out and scoop up this deal-of-a-lifetime?  the 
> listing is still alive on craigs...
>
> 
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
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[RBW] Looking for a quality 26 9s compatible rear wheel that could use a home.

[sam . perez . 2002]

Hello!
Looking for a quality 26 9s compatible rear wheel that could use a home.  Hit 
my budget the other day but she needs a rear wheel to roll so, what cano do. 

Thanks! 


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[RBW] ohio all-rounder update?

[Paul Richardson]

anybody on the board trek out and scoop up this deal-of-a-lifetime?  the 
listing is still alive on craigs...



paul
takoma park, md.

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