[RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis FS

[Joe Bernard]

I think you're right, that looks like an early Toyo Atlantis "2" with the 
pointed head lug and I think those tires say Rat Trap Pass on them. 


On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 8:37:43 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:

> Wouldn't it be 26" wheels if Toyo built? Just curious, although it is my 
> size.
>
> Ian A Alberta Canada
>
> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-6 John Carey wrote:
>
>> With heavy heart, have decided to part ways with my Atlantis, in  efforts 
>> to downsize.  This is a Toyo built frame, 56 cm with 650B wheelset.  I will 
>> add more information this evening... 
>> 1850.00 with two cockpits (dropped bars and upright bar set-up.
>>
>> Please let me know if interested... am in MA.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -John
>>
>>

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[RBW] LF Stem: Tallux/Fillet Faceplater 25.4, 12-13cm

[Bones]

Drop me a line if you have one in good shape.

Thanks,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis FS

[Ian A]

Wouldn't it be 26" wheels if Toyo built? Just curious, although it is my 
size.

Ian A Alberta Canada

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-6 John Carey wrote:

> With heavy heart, have decided to part ways with my Atlantis, in  efforts 
> to downsize.  This is a Toyo built frame, 56 cm with 650B wheelset.  I will 
> add more information this evening... 
> 1850.00 with two cockpits (dropped bars and upright bar set-up.
>
> Please let me know if interested... am in MA.
>
> Thanks,
> -John
>
>

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[RBW] Anybody have a large QB or SimpleOne Frame?

[Rich Lesnik]

Anybody have a large QB or SimpleOne Frame they'd like to sell? By large I
mean 64 or 68.

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[RBW] WTB: 63cm Toyo Homer

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Please send PM with pics and asking price. Thanks!

Jeff

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[RBW] Re: Susie in a downhill bike park

[Robert Hakim]

Not to downplay your accomplishment at all- I always found the riding at 
Park City and Deer Valley to be pretty groomed. I used to get similar "Good 
Luck Buddie" comments riding my old ridged 29er there too, but never really 
found any trails in that immediate region that were uncomfortably 
challenging. 

If anything the bros are all completely overbiking the whole place, but 
such is the mountain biking culture in that area.

I hope you keep turning heads on all of the trails!
-Robert 

On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 12:53:35 PM UTC-7 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:

> Yes, I too would have loved to see a video of this.
>
> I enjoy riding my Susie on fire roads and such, but no downhill riding 
> plans though.  This's bike is probably a little safer for such rides than a 
> typical MTB, I think
>
> On Monday, 19 July 2021 at 23:03:23 UTC-7 zem...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This reminds me of the guy who took his Jones bike to a bike park: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozEMnTtV7v0=3s
>>
>> On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 11:48:30 PM UTC-4 Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>>> I would have loved to see that. 
>>> I would subscribe to your YouTube channel!
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, Ca 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 3:50:45 PM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thought folks might be interested in my recent experience taking my 
 Susie to Deer Valley lift-serviced downhill bike park.  Overall it was 
 highly enjoyable despite dealing with ridiculous bros.

 Got a ton of looks and comments, ranging from very positive ("Right 
 on!", "Old school!", "Love it!") to puzzled and dismissive ("good luck, 
 buddy").

 She handled great! I don't ride downhill hardly ever, but she was super 
 balanced even on the black diamond stuff that the bros were tearing down. 
 I 
 was able to keep up with my friends who were basically riding soft dually 
 suspended pillows. I found my Tosco bars to be perfect for the descents, 
 and my 2.5" Terravail's at 10psi to be enough to absorb a lot of the bumps 
 and grippy in tight corners.

 I was a little nervous about how she would do on some fairly gnarly 
 terrain and she was great.  Not looking to spend too much time at bike 
 parks, but good to know she is up for the challenge if I do.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis FS

[max.c....@gmail.com]

Hey John, I am interested. Do you know what range of PBH this frame would 
be appropriate for?

Thanks,
Max

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:42:09 PM UTC-5 John Carey wrote:

> With heavy heart, have decided to part ways with my Atlantis, in  efforts 
> to downsize.  This is a Toyo built frame, 56 cm with 650B wheelset.  I will 
> add more information this evening... 
> 1850.00 with two cockpits (dropped bars and upright bar set-up.
>
> Please let me know if interested... am in MA.
>
> Thanks,
> -John
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who needs a 60 cm Platypus?

[David Person]

"Platypus. Best bike in the line!"  - I don't know, Leah.  I'm rather 
partial to my Hillborne.

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Congratulations, indeed! You’ll adore that Platypus. Best bike in the 
> line! I thought they were sold out days ago - do tell how you snagged one!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, David Person  wrote:
>
> Congrats, Mathieu.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-7 mathie...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I snagged a Lime-Olive 60cm, yesterday 
>>
>> It will be my first Rivendell - very excited
>>
>> Mathieu Brown
>>
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Only ONE Mermaid 60 left as of 4 pm.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rivendell said today that they have a few Platys they are releasing for 
>>> sale. A 50 cm demo and several 60s in both colors, I think. After the Bike 
>>> Snob waxed poetic about how great his Platypus is (also 60 cm) I bet they 
>>> will be gone soon.
>>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/07/23/new-outside-column-8/#more-6466
>>>
>>> Happy shopping,
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who needs a 60 cm Platypus?

[Leah Peterson]

Congratulations, indeed! You’ll adore that Platypus. Best bike in the line! I 
thought they were sold out days ago - do tell how you snagged one!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, David Person  wrote:
> 
> Congrats, Mathieu.
> 
>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-7 mathie...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I snagged a Lime-Olive 60cm, yesterday 
>> 
>> It will be my first Rivendell - very excited
>> 
>> Mathieu Brown
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 23, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
  wrote:
 
>>> Only ONE Mermaid 60 left as of 4 pm.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Rivendell said today that they have a few Platys they are releasing for 
> sale. A 50 cm demo and several 60s in both colors, I think. After the 
> Bike Snob waxed poetic about how great his Platypus is (also 60 cm) I bet 
> they will be gone soon.
> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/07/23/new-outside-column-8/#more-6466
> 
> Happy shopping,
> Leah
 
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Re: [RBW] Tumbleweed Rack on 26" fork -- Hunqapilllar?

[Collin A]

Just keep in mind you'd have to bend the rack to fit the 100mm+ dropouts 
rather than the 135mm+ drop outs in the rear.

Collin in, its smoky again, Sacramento

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-7 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric,
>
> I emailed Daniel that same question and this was his response: 
>
> "You should have no problem with clearance above your tire, but there’s 
> no real downside to having the rack that’s a little tall other than 
> aesthetics. The difference between the two rack sizes is only about an 
> inch, we mainly do the two sizes to accommodate bikes with big wheels and 
> low rack mounts where there might be clearance issues with the tire. "
>
> Regarding the says, I trimmed mine and it looks great. 
>
> Josh in NYC
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 12:52 PM Ginz  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone tried to fit the Tumbleweed T-Rack or Pannier Rack (355mm deck 
>> height?) on a Hunqapillar or similar 26" fork using the bosses on top of 
>> the fork crown?
>>
>> I'm wondering if that would work.  Some bending of the rack stays might 
>> be required by I can't tell if the stays' mounting block would be at the 
>> right height.
>>
>> I have a Nitto 32F on there but might try something new.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Eric
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who needs a 60 cm Platypus?

[David Person]

Congrats, Mathieu.

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-7 mathie...@gmail.com wrote:

> I snagged a Lime-Olive 60cm, yesterday 
>
> It will be my first Rivendell - very excited
>
> Mathieu Brown
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> Only ONE Mermaid 60 left as of 4 pm.
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Rivendell said today that they have a few Platys they are releasing for 
>> sale. A 50 cm demo and several 60s in both colors, I think. After the Bike 
>> Snob waxed poetic about how great his Platypus is (also 60 cm) I bet they 
>> will be gone soon.
>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/07/23/new-outside-column-8/#more-6466
>>
>> Happy shopping,
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Kucharik wool shorts

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for sharing the jersey, David! Very cool indeed B) 

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:19:26 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Thanks, Susan. I've purchased a pair. But at $170 for one pair of shorts I 
> thought I'd reach out to the group to see if someone had an old pair they'd 
> pass on! 
>
> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4 Susan wrote:
>
>> They are still in business:  
>>
>> Cycling Apparel, Repairs and Bike Clothes by Kucharik Clothing 
>> 
>>
>> https://www.kucharik.com
>>
>> Still make wool shorts and jerseys; still offer separate leather chamois 
>> pads.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:41 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have an old pair of all-wool shorts from Kucharik accumulating 
>>> dust in some long-forgotten bin? Have you parted ways with the world of 
>>> snug and huggy cycling clothes to go full normal? If so I'm interested in 
>>> your neglected Kucharick shorts in size medium. Please reach out via direct 
>>> message and thanks so much!  
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Kucharik wool shorts

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Susan. I've purchased a pair. But at $170 for one pair of shorts I 
thought I'd reach out to the group to see if someone had an old pair they'd 
pass on! 

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4 Susan wrote:

> They are still in business:  
>
> Cycling Apparel, Repairs and Bike Clothes by Kucharik Clothing 
> 
>
> https://www.kucharik.com
>
> Still make wool shorts and jerseys; still offer separate leather chamois 
> pads.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:41 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Do you have an old pair of all-wool shorts from Kucharik accumulating 
>> dust in some long-forgotten bin? Have you parted ways with the world of 
>> snug and huggy cycling clothes to go full normal? If so I'm interested in 
>> your neglected Kucharick shorts in size medium. Please reach out via direct 
>> message and thanks so much!  
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[RBW] Re: SOMA Lucas 3 Front Rack with 650Bs?

[Tom Palmer]

I am using one on my Soma Buena vista with basket attached, fenders and 
Tektro 559s over 48mm parimotos. 
Works well for me.
Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI


On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Anyone have this rack? I’ve been looking for an inexpensive front rack 
> solution for potential camping trips (additionally, will probably put out 
> an APB for bike camping compadres later…). 
>
> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/lucas-2-mini-front-rack
>
> My biggest concern obviously is clearance with side pull brakes, front 
> fenders, and 650B wheels. Having a tough time finding any intel online so I 
> figured I’d ask the experts. 
>
> Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: SOMA Lucas 3 Front Rack with 650Bs?

[JAS]

Caroline, I bought my Clem used with a Soma front rack and basket.  The 
measurements of mine are the same as the one you referenced so it's likely 
the same one though there is nothing labeling it besides the brand.  My 
Clem has 650b wheels and V-brakes with Big Ben tires (27.5 x 2.00) and 
fenders.  The rack cleared the front fender and I've hauled some pretty 
heavy groceries in the basket without any issues.  It's a sturdy rack.  
Good luck with your search and have fun camping!

RivSisters,
Joyce

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-7 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Anyone have this rack? I’ve been looking for an inexpensive front rack 
> solution for potential camping trips (additionally, will probably put out 
> an APB for bike camping compadres later…). 
>
> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/lucas-2-mini-front-rack
>
> My biggest concern obviously is clearance with side pull brakes, front 
> fenders, and 650B wheels. Having a tough time finding any intel online so I 
> figured I’d ask the experts. 
>
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Kucharik wool shorts

[Susan Rosenblatt]

They are still in business:

Cycling Apparel, Repairs and Bike Clothes by Kucharik Clothing


https://www.kucharik.com

Still make wool shorts and jerseys; still offer separate leather chamois
pads.


On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:41 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

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> in some long-forgotten bin? Have you parted ways with the world of snug and
> huggy cycling clothes to go full normal? If so I'm interested in your
> neglected Kucharick shorts in size medium. Please reach out via direct
> message and thanks so much!
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[RBW] SOMA Lucas 3 Front Rack with 650Bs?

[Caroline Golum]

Anyone have this rack? I’ve been looking for an inexpensive front rack 
solution for potential camping trips (additionally, will probably put out 
an APB for bike camping compadres later…). 

https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/lucas-2-mini-front-rack

My biggest concern obviously is clearance with side pull brakes, front 
fenders, and 650B wheels. Having a tough time finding any intel online so I 
figured I’d ask the experts. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] WTT Large Orange Susie Frameset

[mgm...@gmail.com]

Hello out there.

This bike has been great but it's just a touch too big for me. I picked up 
the frame/fork/headset from Rivhq last summer and built it up myself. I've 
put maybe 250 miles on it since. It's in great shape with some very minor 
paint rub marks - what you'd expect from a bike that's been ridden.

I'd consider selling it, but I'd like to first see if anyone is interested 
in a Riv for Riv trade. I'd be into an Atlantis or an Appaloosa or a Sam. 
If you have a 650b/700c Riv framset and you're interested in a trade, get 
in touch and let me know what you have. I have a 84cm pbh.

Pictures here .

I'd like this to be a local transaction.

Thanks,
Matt in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Tumbleweed Rack on 26" fork -- Hunqapilllar?

[Josh Brown]

Eric,

I emailed Daniel that same question and this was his response:

"You should have no problem with clearance above your tire, but there’s no
real downside to having the rack that’s a little tall other than
aesthetics. The difference between the two rack sizes is only about an
inch, we mainly do the two sizes to accommodate bikes with big wheels and
low rack mounts where there might be clearance issues with the tire. "

Regarding the says, I trimmed mine and it looks great.

Josh in NYC


On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 12:52 PM Ginz  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Has anyone tried to fit the Tumbleweed T-Rack or Pannier Rack (355mm deck
> height?) on a Hunqapillar or similar 26" fork using the bosses on top of
> the fork crown?
>
> I'm wondering if that would work.  Some bending of the rack stays might be
> required by I can't tell if the stays' mounting block would be at the right
> height.
>
> I have a Nitto 32F on there but might try something new.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Eric
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Michael Baquerizo]

For Kushan and anyone else : confirming those pump pegs fit fine on the 
seat tube, top tube, and tubes with similar dimensions. I wanted to use it 
for the seat stays on my Sam but obviously that didn't work out. 

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:18:07 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:

> Thanks Mark. I am goign to play around with this a bit. My concern with 
> mounting along seat tube is that the gap between the seat stay is pretty 
> wide. While the peg will support the pump near the crank, there won't be 
> any support on seat collar end. Will try it out and report the findings. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:59:12 AM UTC-7 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Kushan,
>>
>> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on your 
>> bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works great 
>> (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). I've got 
>> an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
>> interested. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>>
>>
>> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
>> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
>> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>>
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short for 
>>> 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, HPX4 is 
>>> the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on larger 
>>> frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. It's a 
>>> bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from Will 
 that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took it for 
 a quick 10 mile spin on local paved trail and ride quality has exceeded 
 expectations. It is joyfully upright (Albatross bars), planted, and climbs 
 well. It makes me want to just keep pedaling and forget about things like 
 speed, heart rate, and strava. 

 Here are some pictures 
 
 On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has 
> inspired me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those 
> of 
> you running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when 
> riding a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB 
> Venture tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire 
> will 
> fit on Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>
>> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
>> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
>> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
>> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>>
>> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating 
>>> dusklight is complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:24 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 BP, your bike build is excellent. Can I please ask which handlebar 
 that is and also do you like the new Beartrap pedals?

 On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 14:50:15 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:

> Similar story, but my single TT 57cm just feels more right than my 
> 58 double tt did. Better fit? Slightly more ideal geo? Just a better 
> colour?
> We aren't talking earth shattering differences, but the 
> differences are good ones.
>
> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 10:43:35 UTC+8 Justin wrote:
>
>> Fantastic Appaloosa! How the heck did I miss the memo that Riv 
>> was now doing single top tube larger size bikes again? MY double top 
>> tube 
>> size 58 is free to a good home... in trade for a single top tube 
>> version.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 10:28:31 PM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Advent 1x9 with Microshift thumbie. I had it on hand 
>>> before the Advent X came out, which currently doesn’t have thumb 
>>> shifter or 
>>> barcon options. Nice, economical system. 
>>> On 

Re: [RBW] Re: Who needs a 60 cm Platypus?

[Mathieu Brown]

I snagged a Lime-Olive 60cm, yesterday 

It will be my first Rivendell - very excited

Mathieu Brown


> On Jul 23, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> Only ONE Mermaid 60 left as of 4 pm.
> 
>> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> Rivendell said today that they have a few Platys they are releasing for 
>> sale. A 50 cm demo and several 60s in both colors, I think. After the Bike 
>> Snob waxed poetic about how great his Platypus is (also 60 cm) I bet they 
>> will be gone soon.
>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/07/23/new-outside-column-8/#more-6466
>> 
>> Happy shopping,
>> Leah
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[RBW] Tumbleweed Rack on 26" fork -- Hunqapilllar?

[Ginz]

Hello,

Has anyone tried to fit the Tumbleweed T-Rack or Pannier Rack (355mm deck 
height?) on a Hunqapillar or similar 26" fork using the bosses on top of 
the fork crown?

I'm wondering if that would work.  Some bending of the rack stays might be 
required by I can't tell if the stays' mounting block would be at the right 
height.

I have a Nitto 32F on there but might try something new.

Thanks for any advice.

Eric

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Re: [RBW] Re: measured speed differences between road and touring bikes

[Clark Fitzgerald]

John,

Good idea to correct for weight differences. Better to record the data as
it appears as a new variable, and then apply any corrections later to the
entire data set after the fact, so we have:

Rider, PercentSpeed, WeightDiffLbs
Clark, 82, 15
Fullylugged, 99, NA
aeroperf, 96.5, 2.5

Yes, my touring bike is at least 15 lbs heavier than my road bike.

We could take this "recording more variables" idea much further and make
tables for rider, bike, route, and ride, and record all kinds of variables
for each one. If I had infinite time...

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 6:21 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Clark
>
> I suggest aeroprof ratio is 98.2% after correcting for the weight
> difference.   It agrees very well with Fully Lugged's ratio, showing little
> effect
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ.
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 12:32:08 AM UTC-4 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>
>> Thanks aeroperf! So on your touring style Rivendell you were 100 * 11.2 /
>> 11.6 = 96.5% as fast as your road bike. Now we have three data points! I
>> hope to see some more...
>>
>> Rider, PercentSpeed
>> Clark, 82
>> Fullylugged, 99
>> aeroperf, 96.5
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 4:49 PM aeroperf  wrote:
>>
>>> Road bike: 1982 Team Fuji with all 2018 equipment (3x9-spd Sora w/105
>>> brakes, 622x28 tires, drops)
>>> Riv bike: 2015 Sam Hillborn set up per factory (3x9-spd Suguino/Shimano
>>> w/Tektro rim brakes, 622x42 tires, Albatross)
>>> Both bikes had Sigma BC.12.12 computers which were calibrated.
>>>
>>> The road bike averaged 11.6 mph on 5 trials and the Sam averaged 11.2
>>> mph on 5 trials.
>>>
>>> To me, the big differences seemed to be in the gearing and rider
>>> position.  The Fuji has a 50 tooth big chainring, while my Sam has a 46
>>> tooth.
>>> Weight seemed at best a secondary effect.  The Fuji is 28 lb while the
>>> Sam is 30.5 lb., but I’m 210 lb.
>>> For another comparison, my 31.5 pound Soma Saga Disc heavy touring bike
>>> averaged just less than 11.1 mph on the same 5 trials.  It’s big chainring
>>> has 44 teeth.
>>>
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[RBW] FS: Hubbuhubbuh Tandem L/M

[a spen]

Hi Folks,

After a great deal of deliberation, discussions with family and friends, 
and much hand wringing, I've decided to list our Hubbuhubbuh Tandem. This 
is my all-time favorite ride, but our lives and family have changed and 
alas, it is time to let it go.  
The bike rides like a dream, is so much fun to ride and quite suitable for 
road, gravel, bike paths, and even some off road single track. A very 
adaptable ride.

A bit of info about the bike:

--It's a lovely sage green, size L/M.  It will (and has) accommodate a very 
wide range of riders from 6'9" to 5'1".  The captain should be on the 
taller side (6' and taller) while the stoker should be between 5'1" and 
6'1".  I am happy to take specific measurements as is helpful, just let me 
know.

--Very easy use at under 150 miles, in Excellent condition & could be sold 
as new

--Asking $2650--Possibly open to offers including, a trade/cash deal for an 
entry level Rivendell (such as a Clem L, etc) or other bike suitable for a 
casual 5'9 rider

Drive-train
--Silver cranks both captain and stoker
--Shimano Deore derailleurs with 3 x 9 gearing
--Currently set up with friction shifters, which is my preference, but I 
may have indexed shifters if preferred

Brakes
--Avid brake levers with Shimano V-brakes.  The rear hub will also 
accommodate a 203 mm disc drag brake

Tires & Wheelset
27.5" Strong and durable, high spoke count (Cliff hangers?) rims with 
Velocity hubs and Continental Double Fighter 27.5 x 2.0 tires.  Note: the 
27.5 wheels on this tandem make it feel surprisingly playful verses 29" 
wheels.

Handlebars & saddles
--Boscomoose bars with cork grips & Brooks B-17 & B-67 saddles (would like 
to keep these, but they are negotiable)

Possible shipping for ~$150 CONUS

Please shoot me a message with questions or thoughts.  Thanks!-Al

Link to pics here:
blacksburg.craigslist.org/bik/d/blacksburg-rivendell-hhh-hubbuhubbuh/7357500791.html

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[RBW] HHH Hubbuhubbuh Tandem L/M

[a spen]

Hi Folks,

After a great deal of deliberation, discussions with family and friends, 
and much hand wringing, I've decided to list our Hubbuhubbuh Tandem. This 
is my all-time favorite ride, but our lives and family have changed and 
alas, it is time to let it go.  
The bike rides like a dream, is so much fun to ride and quite suitable for 
road, gravel, bike paths, and even some off road single track. A very 
adaptable ride.

A bit of info about the bike:

--It's a lovely sage green, size L/M.  It will (and has) accommodate a very 
wide range of riders from 6'9" to 5'1".  The captain should be on the 
taller side (6' and taller) while the stoker should be between 5'1" and 
6'1".  I am happy to take specific measurements as is helpful, just let me 
know.

--Very easy use at under 150 miles, in Excellent condition & could be sold 
as new

--Possibly open to offers including, a trade/cash deal for an entry level 
Rivendell (such as a Clem L, etc) or other bike suitable for a casual 5'9 
rider

Drive-train
--Silver cranks both captain and stoker
--Shimano Deore derailleurs with 3 x 9 gearing
--Currently set up with friction shifters, which is my preference, but I 
may have indexed shifters if preferred

Brakes
--Avid brake levers with Shimano V-brakes.  The rear hub will also 
accommodate a 203 mm disc drag brake

Tires & Wheelset
27.5" Strong and durable, high spoke count (Cliff hangers?) rims with 
Velocity hubs and Continental Double Fighter 27.5 x 2.0 tires.  Note: the 
27.5 wheels on this tandem make it feel surprisingly playful verses 29" 
wheels.

Handlebars & saddles
--Boscomoose bars with cork grips & Brooks B-17 & B-67 saddles (would like 
to keep these, but they are negotiable)

Possible shipping for ~$150 CONUS

Please shoot me a message with questions or thoughts.  Thanks!-Al

Link to pics here:
blacksburg.craigslist.org/bik/d/blacksburg-rivendell-hhh-hubbuhubbuh/7357500791.html

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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell 2-piece Crank and BB!

[Nikko in Oakland]

Hey y'all! 

I'm on the verge of finishing a build! I just need one last piece to finish 
the puzzle. 

Does anybody have a 172mm (or close other) Silver 2-Piece (4-arm) Crankset? 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/cranks-bbs/products/crank-silver-external-arms-only

Best, 
Nikko 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Correct Nitto rear rack size?

[Steven Sweedler]

Ed, thanks, the 32R is same as my Bruce Gordon rack. Steve

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:12 PM Ed Carolipio 
wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> On the 32R, distance from middle of hole on bottom mount tab to the bottom
> of the platform is ~33.5 cm. On the 33R, same distance is ~35 cm.
>
> --Ed
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 5:34 PM Steven Sweedler 
> wrote:
>
>> Ed, can you measure from the bottom of the platform to the hole at the
>> dropout on your 32 R rack, Thanks, Steve
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 7:46 PM 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Much appreciate the feedback. According to the chaps in Walnut Creek the
>>> 32R should work just fine my H/H being a 650 wheel size. That said, I think
>>> you are spot on correct especially if one plans to include a fender option.
>>> After all when in doubt go big.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 10:18:43 PM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
 Hi Gunner,

 I suggest going with the 33R as I'm convinced the 32R was built with
 26" wheels in mind. I've tried the 32R on the following bikes:

- 51cm Appaloosa (650b) - Needed to run on low-mid braze on. Could
be run on the dropout braze-on but contacts top of rear fender.
- 47cm MIT Homer (650b) - Just clears with the fender and 42mm tires
- 46cm Clem L - Perfect
- Small Gus Boots Wilsen (650b) - Not even close

 I ended up getting the 33R - currently on the Hillsen - and keeping the
 32R on the Clem.

 --Ed C.

 On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 12:36:29 PM UTC-7 gpgun...@aol.com wrote:

> Hello All
>
> I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can tell me the correct Nitto
> rear rack size (32R/33R) for a Toyo built 56cm H/Hilsen with 650B wheels.
> Initially , I was thinking large (33R) but now I am just not sure. The
> older Toyo built Hilsen frame geometry has me questioning the optimal 
> size.
> Again, much appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Gunner
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