Re: [RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[amillhench]

Hey Bones,

They made them up to a 59 which had a 58cm top tube, so not a big frame by most 
standards. These were made at the request of Blue Lug for their anniversary 
with the intent of selling them to the Japanese market. 

Only a handful were sold here. 

The only two Rivs I’ve owned were this and a Quickbeam. They’re such cool 
bikes. 

I put it up on eBay, but I’d much rather sell to someone in this group. I’ve 
got a hard 3 bike rule, and this one’s replacement is incoming. 

Thanks!

Aaron

On Jul 31, 2021, at 21:24, Bones  wrote:

Beautiful. That’s pretty much my dream bike. They didn’t make them in larger 
sizes though did they? Good luck selling it Aaron.

Bones

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 4:41:25 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> I had one of these that was also slightly too small (51cm) but it was a great 
> bike I probably would have kept if my creaky old back hadn't informed me I 
> don't climb hills on singlespeeds anymore. If you're interested in a light 
> Riv road bike with gorgeous lugs and fillet-brazed BB, this is the lightest 
> you'll find. It's my size and preferred color, I'd grab it in a hot second if 
> I could pedal it. Step up, people!
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 11:56:24 AM UTC-7 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>> Hey Doug in Athens,
>> 
>> I’ve carried a Pedros Trixie tool since I built up my first fixed gear 
>> (RB2). It has a 15mm wrench, cog spanner and 5mm Allen on it and fits to 
>> cage bosses with wing nuts. Great tool if you have axle nuts. 
>> 
>> It is too bad about the mix up. Ultimately, I felt it would be a waste of 
>> time/money/energy to have the seller pay to ship it back to himself only to 
>> resell it. I hope it goes to a good home here.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Aaron
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 12:16:01 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>>> Aaron,
>>> Nice build, too bad it doesn't fit and about the mix-up in size. Do you 
>>> carry a wrench on rides so that you can change to the other chain ring? I 
>>> assume you have to move the wheel back to tension the chain.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug in Athens, Ga.
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:
 Hello all!
 
 I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under the 
 pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
 blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
 
 Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) and 
 a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity A23 
 rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
 
 Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with new 
 Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
 
 Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
 
 Chain has 20 miles on it. 
 
 This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
 just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
 this color and size.
 
 Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
 
 Please let me know if you have any questions.
 
 Thank you!
 
 Aaron in El Paso 
 
 

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[RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[Bones]

Beautiful. That’s pretty much my dream bike. They didn’t make them in 
larger sizes though did they? Good luck selling it Aaron.

Bones

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 4:41:25 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I had one of these that was also slightly too small (51cm) but it was a 
> great bike I probably would have kept if my creaky old back hadn't informed 
> me I don't climb hills on singlespeeds anymore. If you're interested in a 
> light Riv road bike with gorgeous lugs and fillet-brazed BB, this is the 
> lightest you'll find. It's my size and preferred color, I'd grab it in a 
> hot second if I could pedal it. Step up, people!
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 11:56:24 AM UTC-7 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>
>> Hey Doug in Athens,
>>
>> I’ve carried a Pedros Trixie tool since I built up my first fixed gear 
>> (RB2). It has a 15mm wrench, cog spanner and 5mm Allen on it and fits to 
>> cage bosses with wing nuts. Great tool if you have axle nuts. 
>>
>> It is too bad about the mix up. Ultimately, I felt it would be a waste of 
>> time/money/energy to have the seller pay to ship it back to himself only to 
>> resell it. I hope it goes to a good home here.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 12:16:01 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Aaron,
>>> Nice build, too bad it doesn't fit and about the mix-up in size. Do you 
>>> carry a wrench on rides so that you can change to the other chain ring? I 
>>> assume you have to move the wheel back to tension the chain.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug in Athens, Ga.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>>>
 Hello all!

 I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under 
 the pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on 
 the 
 blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 

 Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) 
 and a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity 
 A23 rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 

 Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
 new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 

 Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 

 Chain has 20 miles on it. 

 This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
 just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
 this color and size.

 Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5

 Please let me know if you have any questions.

 Thank you!

 Aaron in El Paso 




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Re: [RBW] Handlebar/Stem pouch for Wine

[iamkeith]

I was told that the mousetrap on the pletscher / clem rack was designed to 
carry a bottle of wine.  I never tried it when mine was mounted but it kind 
of makes since because it doesn't seem to hold anything else in an obvious 
way.  I might go try it...

On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 5:45:56 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Jason -- The Outer Shell 
>  stem caddy 
> easily fits a 750. Their product listing even shows a wine bottle. Image 
> below of my bag plus wine. 
>
> I haven't used them but I think these bags would also work: 
> Randi Jo Bartender Plus 
> 
> Road Runner Auto Pilot  
> 
>
> Any of the stem bags that list they can carry a Nalgene should also fit a 
> wine bottle. All three linked here are made in the USA. 
>
> [image: IMG_5296.jpg]
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 10:26:54 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> If you could use your top tube:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Repurposed-Bicycle-Handmade-Hide-Drink/dp/B015JMQIFO/
>> Otherwise you might strap on one of these:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/TOURBON-Canvas-Leather-Bicycle-Carrier/dp/B07JVQW85W/
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Scott Calhoun]

Well, I got the Rivendell Custom, rode it for a few days, and ended up 
returning it to the Pros Closet. There was nothing at all wrong with it--it 
is Mark Nobilette built in 2011--but it was more or a touring set up and 
not the Roadeo type ride (lighter tubing) I was after. The bike is in 
excellent condition and looked very lightly used. Although the Pros Closet 
called it a "Roadeo"--Nobilette confirmed that it was not and my 
impressions riding it (super smooth, super stable), are that it was built 
to load lightly. 

So, heads up if any of you are looking for a big custom Riv., it should be 
back up and listed at TPC again soo.  This one is very nice. The JB paint 
looks better in person than on the web.

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:41:37 AM UTC-7 John M wrote:

> Nice looking (and big!) Riv custom at the Pro's Closet:
>>
>
> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/rivendell-roadeo-xl
>
>  
>

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[RBW] WTB: 650B Wheelset - Rim Brakes - 135mm Rear

[Johnny Alien]

I'm looking for what the title says. Preferably something that could take 
an 11 speed cassette. Does not need to be a heavy build for rough use.  It 
will be mainly roads and no loads.

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[RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[Joe Bernard]

I had one of these that was also slightly too small (51cm) but it was a 
great bike I probably would have kept if my creaky old back hadn't informed 
me I don't climb hills on singlespeeds anymore. If you're interested in a 
light Riv road bike with gorgeous lugs and fillet-brazed BB, this is the 
lightest you'll find. It's my size and preferred color, I'd grab it in a 
hot second if I could pedal it. Step up, people!

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 11:56:24 AM UTC-7 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> Hey Doug in Athens,
>
> I’ve carried a Pedros Trixie tool since I built up my first fixed gear 
> (RB2). It has a 15mm wrench, cog spanner and 5mm Allen on it and fits to 
> cage bosses with wing nuts. Great tool if you have axle nuts. 
>
> It is too bad about the mix up. Ultimately, I felt it would be a waste of 
> time/money/energy to have the seller pay to ship it back to himself only to 
> resell it. I hope it goes to a good home here.
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 12:16:01 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Aaron,
>> Nice build, too bad it doesn't fit and about the mix-up in size. Do you 
>> carry a wrench on rides so that you can change to the other chain ring? I 
>> assume you have to move the wheel back to tension the chain.
>> Thanks,
>> Doug in Athens, Ga.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under 
>>> the pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
>>> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>>>
>>> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) 
>>> and a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity 
>>> A23 rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>>>
>>> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
>>> new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>>>
>>> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>>>
>>> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>>>
>>> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
>>> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
>>> this color and size.
>>>
>>> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Who likes the original Atlantis?

[dougP]

Elisabeth:

My wife has 47cm Atlantis & with 1.5" tires it has around 1/2" clearance 
between the top of the tire & the bottom of the fork.  It's an early 
production one & has the 44cm chainstays.  She doesn't have fenders but it 
looks like they would fit.  She's just under 5'2" tall, rides with drop 
bars, a 6 or 7 cm stem, & a bar riser adapter.  Absolutely loves the bike.  

dougP

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:30:55 AM UTC-7 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:

> Would absolutely be in for that -- with the original geometry, please, 
> including a size that will actually work (with drop-bar set-up) for someone 
> between 5'0" and 5'2"!   (But, in this round, room in the fork for the 47cm 
> frame to include a fender!)
>
> -- Liz
>
>
> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 9:31:39 PM UTC+2 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living in 
>> Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I 
>> thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that 
>> original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my 
>> size.
>> I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with 
>> some of these aspects from those first runs:
>>
>>1. The color (of course)
>>2. Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone)
>>3. 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool 
>>with 26' in all sizes)
>>4. 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a hair 
>>bigger in the large sizes)
>>5. Clearance for 2in tires with fenders
>>
>> Who else would sign up for one?
>> What other aspects would you like?
>>
>> Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville,
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

Hey Doug in Athens,

I’ve carried a Pedros Trixie tool since I built up my first fixed gear 
(RB2). It has a 15mm wrench, cog spanner and 5mm Allen on it and fits to 
cage bosses with wing nuts. Great tool if you have axle nuts. 

It is too bad about the mix up. Ultimately, I felt it would be a waste of 
time/money/energy to have the seller pay to ship it back to himself only to 
resell it. I hope it goes to a good home here.

Best,

Aaron

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 12:16:01 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> Aaron,
> Nice build, too bad it doesn't fit and about the mix-up in size. Do you 
> carry a wrench on rides so that you can change to the other chain ring? I 
> assume you have to move the wheel back to tension the chain.
> Thanks,
> Doug in Athens, Ga.
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under the 
>> pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
>> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>>
>> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) and 
>> a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity A23 
>> rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>>
>> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
>> new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>>
>> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>>
>> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>>
>> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
>> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
>> this color and size.
>>
>> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[Doug H.]

Aaron,
Nice build, too bad it doesn't fit and about the mix-up in size. Do you 
carry a wrench on rides so that you can change to the other chain ring? I 
assume you have to move the wheel back to tension the chain.
Thanks,
Doug in Athens, Ga.

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under the 
> pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>
> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) and 
> a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity A23 
> rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>
> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with new 
> Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>
> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>
> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>
> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
> this color and size.
>
> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Aaron in El Paso 
>
>
>

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[RBW] For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

[A. Douglas M.]

Hello all!

I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under the 
pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on the 
blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 

Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) and a 
White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity A23 rims 
laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 

Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with new 
Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 

Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 

Chain has 20 miles on it. 

This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
this color and size.

Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you!

Aaron in El Paso 


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[RBW] WTB: Sackville MultiSack Bags

[Jan O.]

Still looking for a single Sackville MultiSack bag in Olive color or a 
complete set in Grey color.

Thanks.
Jan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who likes the original Atlantis?

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I do wish I had not sold my AR, had fitted it with fatter tires but I just had 
no clue then. At least it went to an iBOB list member some years ago.

Sent from ProtonMail for iOS

On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 12:23 PM, iamkeith  wrote:

> Interesting question to think about (though I agree it's unlikely to happen.)
>
> I have an All Rounder from just prior to when the larger sizes got 700c 
> wheels and then morphed into the Atlantis as a production model. On one hand, 
> it remains my favorite and most-used "road" bike but, on the other hand, I'd 
> definitely change a few things if I could:
>
> I'd choose slightly longer chainstays and slacker headtube to make it less 
> 'twitchy" at slow speeds. Is that the same thing other people describe as 
> "nimble?"
>
> I'd prefer a little more top tube slope and/or head tube extension, raise the 
> bars without an awkward amount of stem extension, even if it made it a little 
> less "classic" looking.
>
> I'd like a slightly longer top tube, so that I wasn't as likely to endo over 
> the bars on steep, rougher rides. [Interestingly,, there were two top tube 
> length options at the time. Mine is the "standard," but there was a "short" 
> option, too. Like many of the early production models, I think the idea was 
> to encourage - or allow - a more upright riding posture without messing up 
> the handling by removing too much weight from the front wheel. I suspect the 
> Atlantis just went 'short-only' which, combined with larger wheels, is what 
> made it notorious for TCO. The newer, longer-chainstay models fix all of this 
> by re-distributing some weight to the front, even if you have a long top tube 
> and more upright (less racy) riding posture or bars.]
>
> In the end, I think I'd basically end up with a modern rivendell, with the 
> EXCEPTION of keeping the 26" wheels, which I absolutely love despite the 
> unusual proportions. (I can fit 2.4 just barely.) Knowing what I know now, I 
> wouldn't hesitate to get a custom Riv with 26' wheels, fancy details, and a 
> healthy dose of Grant's evolved design ideas. I might even have it painted 
> seafoam green (the Gus prototype that Deacon Patrick got is a little less 
> "loud" than the atlantis, and I love it.)
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 9:13:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I think Joe & Joel have some good points, I can't see Grant doing a full run 
>> of bikes based on one of his old designs. Especially the Atlantis, given 
>> that it evolved from the XO-1 (I read Grant said this somewhere, old 
>> interview or Reader) and he has been refining it for almost 30 years.
>>
>> I agree with the LHT:Atlantis/Appaloosa comparisons above. If you take an 
>> LHT and paint it Atlantis blue-green the only thing the bikes would have in 
>> common is the paint and two wheels. I'm a current owner/rider of both bikes.
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:02:52 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> I get the feeling that Grant will not build bikes with his older philosophy 
>>> of the shorter chain stays. If you read the information on the new customs 
>>> it says longer chainstays…. Maybe he could be convinced on a custom. I 
>>> bought the Hillborne to have shorter chainstays.
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 3:31:39 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
 The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living in 
 Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I 
 thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that 
 original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my 
 size.
 I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with some 
 of these aspects from those first runs:

 - The color (of course)
 - Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone)
 - 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool with 26' 
 in all sizes)
 - 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a hair 
 bigger in the large sizes)
 - Clearance for 2in tires with fenders

 Who else would sign up for one?
 What other aspects would you like?

 Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville,

 Edwin
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Re: [RBW] FS: Phil Wood, Nitto, Arkel, MKS, Rivendell, Park parts

[sam . perez . 2002]

I’ll take the m12 if it’s for 26 “

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2021, at 9:36 AM, 'Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Decided to clear out some additional parts that may be of interest. Pictures 
> are provided via Flickr.  https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW4KhM9
> Nitto Rear Rack (medium)  New$180.00
> Nitto M12 Front Rack  New  $75.00
> Arkel Commuter Bag w/ laptop sleeve  Excellent conditon  $50.00
> MKS Track Pedals New   $25.00
> Rivendell Banana Bag New  $70.00
> Pair of Avocet Fas Grip City tires K1.25 26x1.25 (559x32mm) less than 50 
> miles  $35.00
> Park Cable /Housing Cutter CN-10   $30
> Shipping not included
> 
> In addition, I have a wheel set I had built up (Peter White) I am considering 
> selling. The set is new and has never been ridden. $750  
> Phil Wood 120/135 36H Touring Hub Set (Shimano compatable)
> Mavic A719 700C/36H
> Wheelsmith DB spokes
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[RBW] FS: Phil Wood, Nitto, Arkel, MKS, Rivendell, Park parts

['Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Decided to clear out some additional parts that may be of interest. 
Pictures are provided via Flickr.  https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW4KhM9

   - Nitto Rear Rack (medium)  New$180.00
   - Nitto M12 Front Rack  New  $75.00
   - Arkel Commuter Bag w/ laptop sleeve  Excellent conditon  $50.00
   - MKS Track Pedals New   $25.00


   - Rivendell Banana Bag New  $70.00
   - Pair of Avocet Fas Grip City tires K1.25 26x1.25 (559x32mm) less than 
   50 miles  $35.00
   - Park Cable /Housing Cutter CN-10   $30

Shipping not included

In addition, I have a wheel set I had built up (Peter White) I am 
considering selling. The set is new and has never been ridden. $750  

   - Phil Wood 120/135 36H Touring Hub Set (Shimano compatable)
   - Mavic A719 700C/36H
   - Wheelsmith DB spokes
   

 
 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Kucharik wool shorts

[David Person]

Definitely, the days before lycra.


On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 8:14:53 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very cool, thanks for sharing the pic. I dig short shorts, those look 
> great. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 5:46:58 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here it is in action, along with a pair of Kucharik shorts.  Man were 
>> they short.  And the requisite Bell Biker helmet, in lieu of the Kucharik 
>> leather hairnet.  Sacramento crit in '79 or '80.
>>
>> [image: Sac Crit - 1980.jpeg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:20:28 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing the jersey, David! Very cool indeed B) 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:19:26 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Susan. I've purchased a pair. But at $170 for one pair of 
 shorts I thought I'd reach out to the group to see if someone had an old 
 pair they'd pass on! 

 On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4 Susan wrote:

> They are still in business:  
>
> Cycling Apparel, Repairs and Bike Clothes by Kucharik Clothing 
> 
>
> https://www.kucharik.com
>
> Still make wool shorts and jerseys; still offer separate leather 
> chamois pads.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:41 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Do you have an old pair of all-wool shorts from Kucharik accumulating 
>> dust in some long-forgotten bin? Have you parted ways with the world of 
>> snug and huggy cycling clothes to go full normal? If so I'm interested 
>> in 
>> your neglected Kucharick shorts in size medium. Please reach out via 
>> direct 
>> message and thanks so much!  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Who likes the original Atlantis?

[iamkeith]

Interesting question to think about (though I agree it's unlikely to 
happen.)

I have an All Rounder from just prior to when the larger sizes got 700c 
wheels and then morphed into the Atlantis as a production model.  On one 
hand, it remains my favorite and most-used "road" bike but, on the other 
hand, I'd definitely change a few things if I could:  

I'd choose slightly longer chainstays and slacker headtube to make it less 
'twitchy" at slow speeds.  Is that the same thing other people describe as 
"nimble?"

I'd prefer a little more top tube slope and/or head tube extension, raise 
the bars without an awkward amount of stem extension, even if it made it a 
little less "classic" looking.

I'd like a slightly longer top tube, so that I wasn't as likely to endo 
over the bars on steep, rougher rides.  [Interestingly,, there were two top 
tube length options at the time.  Mine is the "standard," but there was a 
"short" option, too.  Like many of the early production models, I think the 
idea was to encourage - or allow - a more upright riding posture without 
messing up the handling by removing too much weight from the front wheel.  
I suspect the Atlantis just went 'short-only' which, combined with larger 
wheels, is what made it notorious for TCO.   The newer, longer-chainstay 
models fix all of this by re-distributing some weight to the front, even if 
you have a long top tube and more upright (less racy) riding posture or 
bars.]

In the end, I think I'd basically end up with a modern rivendell, with the 
EXCEPTION of keeping the 26" wheels, which I absolutely love despite the 
unusual proportions.  (I can fit 2.4 just barely.)  Knowing what I know 
now, I wouldn't hesitate to get a custom Riv with 26' wheels, fancy 
details, and a healthy dose of Grant's evolved design ideas. I might even 
have it painted seafoam green (the Gus prototype that Deacon Patrick got is 
a little less "loud" than the atlantis, and I love it.)
On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 9:13:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think Joe & Joel have some good points, I can't see Grant doing a full 
> run of bikes based on one of his old designs. Especially the Atlantis, 
> given that it evolved from the XO-1 (I read Grant said this somewhere, old 
> interview or Reader) and he has been refining it for almost 30 years. 
>
> I agree with the LHT:Atlantis/Appaloosa comparisons above. If you take an 
> LHT and paint it Atlantis blue-green the only thing the bikes would have in 
> common is the paint and two wheels. I'm a current owner/rider of both 
> bikes. 
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:02:52 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> I get the feeling that Grant will not build bikes with his older 
>> philosophy of the shorter chain stays.  If you read the information on the 
>> new customs it says longer chainstays….  Maybe he could be convinced on a 
>> custom.  I bought the Hillborne to have shorter chainstays.  
>>
>> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 3:31:39 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living 
>>> in Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I 
>>> thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that 
>>> original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my 
>>> size.
>>> I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with 
>>> some of these aspects from those first runs:
>>>
>>>1. The color (of course)
>>>2. Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone)
>>>3. 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool 
>>>with 26' in all sizes)
>>>4. 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a 
>>>hair bigger in the large sizes)
>>>5. Clearance for 2in tires with fenders
>>>
>>> Who else would sign up for one?
>>> What other aspects would you like?
>>>
>>> Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Kucharik wool shorts

[Eric Marth]

Very cool, thanks for sharing the pic. I dig short shorts, those look 
great. 

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 5:46:58 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here it is in action, along with a pair of Kucharik shorts.  Man were they 
> short.  And the requisite Bell Biker helmet, in lieu of the Kucharik 
> leather hairnet.  Sacramento crit in '79 or '80.
>
> [image: Sac Crit - 1980.jpeg]
>
> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:20:28 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing the jersey, David! Very cool indeed B) 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 4:19:26 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Susan. I've purchased a pair. But at $170 for one pair of shorts 
>>> I thought I'd reach out to the group to see if someone had an old pair 
>>> they'd pass on! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4 Susan wrote:
>>>
 They are still in business:  

 Cycling Apparel, Repairs and Bike Clothes by Kucharik Clothing 
 

 https://www.kucharik.com

 Still make wool shorts and jerseys; still offer separate leather 
 chamois pads.


 On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:41 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Do you have an old pair of all-wool shorts from Kucharik accumulating 
> dust in some long-forgotten bin? Have you parted ways with the world of 
> snug and huggy cycling clothes to go full normal? If so I'm interested in 
> your neglected Kucharick shorts in size medium. Please reach out via 
> direct 
> message and thanks so much!  
>
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> .
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[RBW] Re: Who likes the original Atlantis?

[Eric Marth]

I think Joe & Joel have some good points, I can't see Grant doing a full 
run of bikes based on one of his old designs. Especially the Atlantis, 
given that it evolved from the XO-1 (I read Grant said this somewhere, old 
interview or Reader) and he has been refining it for almost 30 years. 

I agree with the LHT:Atlantis/Appaloosa comparisons above. If you take an 
LHT and paint it Atlantis blue-green the only thing the bikes would have in 
common is the paint and two wheels. I'm a current owner/rider of both 
bikes. 

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 10:02:52 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> I get the feeling that Grant will not build bikes with his older 
> philosophy of the shorter chain stays.  If you read the information on the 
> new customs it says longer chainstays….  Maybe he could be convinced on a 
> custom.  I bought the Hillborne to have shorter chainstays.  
>
> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 3:31:39 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living in 
>> Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I 
>> thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that 
>> original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my 
>> size.
>> I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with 
>> some of these aspects from those first runs:
>>
>>1. The color (of course)
>>2. Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone)
>>3. 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool 
>>with 26' in all sizes)
>>4. 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a hair 
>>bigger in the large sizes)
>>5. Clearance for 2in tires with fenders
>>
>> Who else would sign up for one?
>> What other aspects would you like?
>>
>> Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville,
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Who likes the original Atlantis?

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I get the feeling that Grant will not build bikes with his older philosophy 
of the shorter chain stays.  If you read the information on the new customs 
it says longer chainstays….  Maybe he could be convinced on a custom.  I 
bought the Hillborne to have shorter chainstays.  

On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 3:31:39 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:

> The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living in 
> Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I 
> thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that 
> original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my 
> size.
> I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with some 
> of these aspects from those first runs:
>
>1. The color (of course)
>2. Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone)
>3. 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool 
>with 26' in all sizes)
>4. 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a hair 
>bigger in the large sizes)
>5. Clearance for 2in tires with fenders
>
> Who else would sign up for one?
> What other aspects would you like?
>
> Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: Who likes the original Atlantis?

[Elisabeth Sherwood]

Would absolutely be in for that -- with the original geometry, please, 
including a size that will actually work (with drop-bar set-up) for someone 
between 5'0" and 5'2"!   (But, in this round, room in the fork for the 47cm 
frame to include a fender!)

-- Liz


On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 9:31:39 PM UTC+2 Edwin W wrote:

> The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living in 
> Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I 
> thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that 
> original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my 
> size.
> I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with some 
> of these aspects from those first runs:
>
>1. The color (of course)
>2. Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone)
>3. 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool 
>with 26' in all sizes)
>4. 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a hair 
>bigger in the large sizes)
>5. Clearance for 2in tires with fenders
>
> Who else would sign up for one?
> What other aspects would you like?
>
> Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville,
>
> Edwin
>

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