[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Drew Henson]

does pbh still provide the best guidance for sizing a roadeo? two posters 
in this thread think they should have gone a size up. 

my pbh is ~87cm. i have a MIT 58 CM AHH. That bike is perfectly sized for 
swept back bars but I found it to be a tad too long when i used drop bars. 

for my pbh, in what seems to me to be a classic riv website "nuance", they 
recommend either 59 or a 61 in the roadeo. (chart suggest 59, frame 
description says 59 or 61 depending on preferences). I'd go with a 57 if i 
were just going by stack/reach on bike insights. 




On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 7:10:43 AM UTC-7 reynoldslugs wrote:

> Dear Tim et al:
>
> Here is a Flickr gallery of my Roadeo.  It's a 61, I sort of think I 
> should have gone with a 63 - but the bike rides great and looks terrific.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157719068508932
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:22:19 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> There has been an ongoing thread about Mid 80's steel road bikes. Like 
>> some of you out there I am in the market for a "regular ass road bike". 
>> This whole year I've been riding my Sam Hillborne roadie style. Shoes and 
>> clip in pedals, drop bars positioned below the saddle, no racks and just a 
>> x-small Sackville. You know what? The Sam makes a fantastic road bike! It 
>> rides like a dream, is plenty comfortable on 38mm tubeless tires and I find 
>> it to be fast enough for my needs. It's a little heavy going up hill but 
>> I'm willing to live with that. 
>>
>> Given my current preferences I think my next Riv just has to be a Roadeo. 
>> I know it will be a long wait if I end up putting a deposit down but at 
>> least I'll always have the Sam. 
>>
>> So who has a Roadeo? Show me your photos for inspiration!! 
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Arabesque FD/RD/Levers, Downtube Shifters, small bits

[Mike Godwin]

Still available are these items 600 derailleur and shift levers, MF-2 hub 
area rack and Problem Solver center pull/canti cable hanger.

I'm looking for a Shimano 170 XT FC-730 silver crank, or FC-6206, or a 
Sugino crank of similar aesthetics. Partial trade accepted for MF-2 rack. 

Mike SLO CA
On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 11:45:52 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Hi Folks
> Thanks for the interest in some items. These are the restite.  
> Cross-posted to ibob list. 
>
> The Arabesque bits are still available.  *Free for cost of shipping*
>
> The pry bar Viscount crankset is available, get it for the rings and 
> bolts/nuts.* Free for cost of shipping*
>
> And the Nitto MF-2 Marks Hub Area Rack with Hoop is still available. How 
> about *$170 shipped*? Getting into bargain land. 
>
> Problem Solver 1 1/8 front cable hanger. 10 bucks with something else 
> unless you need it separately,  *$15 shipped*. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 2:52:59 PM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Got a few items left over from builds perhaps you are interested. Photos 
>> compiled into a pdf, ask me if you want the source photos.  Cross posted to 
>> ibob list. 
>>
>> 600 Arabesque FD/RD/Levers - Decent shape, some oxidation here there. I 
>> put the RD in solvent for a couple of weeks - mineral spirits - and it 
>> melted the plastic spring cover and stop.  *$15  shipped*
>>
>> Suntour Power Control 7-spd/friction downtube levers. Good condition, I 
>> have not installed them with cables but index/friction dial works. * $15  
>> shipped*
>>
>> Nitto MF-2, AKA Mark's Hub Area Rack with Hoop. NIP.  *$180 shipped*
>>
>> Problem Solver 1 1/8 front cable hanger. 10 bucks with something else 
>> unless you need it separately, 15 shipped. 
>>
>> Non-bike.  Brunton Pocket Transit Model 5070 - I'm not using this any 
>> longer except to measure seat tube and head tube angles. Declination 
>> adjustment, inclinometer, needle induction dampening, long and short 
>> sighting bits, accuracy to 1/2 degree, if you can read it.  $150 shipped.  
>>
>> thanks for looking 
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Valerie Yates]

The Denver Cheviot belongs to a friend of mine. it is a 60. She only rode 
it a few times.  Says it was too big for her. Beautiful bike. 
On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:59:56 PM UTC-6 Paul Choi wrote:

> Great price for the Cheviot. Looks like a 55 to me. Wish I was local for 
> this one. 
>
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:00:58 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Romulus
>> 59cm
>> $2000
>> Meridian, ID
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828474327784801
>>
>>
>> Roadini
>> 47cm
>> $950
>> Beacon, NY
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2877322799206984
>>
>>
>> Cheviot
>> (size not listed, contact owner)
>> $1500
>> Denver, CO
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/265832605273264
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Paul Brodek]

...could also be the crank, and/or crank/bb interface.

Told ya it could be spooky/fun!

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 7:11 PM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Well, people. I swapped the pedals for a spare set of Lambda Grip Kings
> and I had the same click. Right pedal, dull click at three o'clock. More
> noticeable at lower speeds, seems to disappear if I'm pedaling real hard.
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking
>> (these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam
>> a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually
>> overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding.
>> Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just
>> from riding.
>>   Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone
>>> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32"
>>> balls.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener?
 Preferably made in USA?

 On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If
> the clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a
> deep dive into other possibilities.
>
> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have
> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed
> currently, and check again.
>
> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's
> play, adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that
> count.
>
> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the
> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the
> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt 
> head
> is probably small and shallow.
>
> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the
> space between cages and pedal body.
>
> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body
> interface---I mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure
> if it'd be effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness.
>
> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>
> And just so it's said
>
> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>
> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other
> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're
> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories 
> here
> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts,
> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals,
> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony
> can be experienced running it down.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about
>> 150 miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a 
>> dull
>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position.
>>
>> Any ideas for remedies?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Chris L]

Paul, 

I'm not sure if you are referring to my photo or not, but if so, it's Lake 
Hefner, which is a lake with a 10 mile long multi-use path around it, right 
in the middle of Oklahoma City.  


On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 5:40:15 PM UTC-5 Paul Richardson wrote:

> i wish this board requested / required one's location at signoff.  it's a 
> great looking bike, great looking lake--where in the world is it?
> thanks
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>

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[RBW] WTB: WI Eno Eccentric Rear Hub 135 OLD

[Dave Grossman]

Looking for a White Industries Eccentric hub in a 135 OLD.  I'd also be up 
for a wheel or complete set in 700c.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Appaloosa

[Matthew Williams]

Bump! I'm still searching for a 58cm Appaloosa, with the double-top tubes.

Please let me know if you have or find one for sale!



On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Matthew Williams  
wrote:

> Bumping this again! I'm still looking for a 58cm Appaloosa, with the double 
> top tubes.
> 
> Please let me know if you know of one for sale!

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Joe Bernard]

Put a tug on the crank and chainring bolts. 



On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 4:11:37 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Well, people. I swapped the pedals for a spare set of Lambda Grip Kings 
> and I had the same click. Right pedal, dull click at three o'clock. More 
> noticeable at lower speeds, seems to disappear if I'm pedaling real hard. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking 
>> (these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam 
>> a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually 
>> overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding. 
>> Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just 
>> from riding. 
>>   Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone 
>>> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" 
>>> balls.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
 Preferably made in USA? 

 On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If 
> the clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a 
> deep dive into other possibilities. 
>
> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
> currently, and check again. 
>
> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's 
> play, adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that 
> count.
>
> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt 
> head 
> is probably small and shallow. 
>
> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the 
> space between cages and pedal body. 
>
> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body 
> interface---I mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure 
> if it'd be effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>
> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>
> And just so it's said
>
> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>
> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories 
> here 
> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the 
> pedals, 
> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and 
> agony 
> can be experienced running it down.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 
>> 150 miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a 
>> dull 
>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>
>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59 Clem H Grilver

[Eric Marth]

Wow! Who's gonna scoop this sweet ride? 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 1:58:42 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> A few more pics:
> [image: Clem03.jpg][image: Clem04.jpg][image: Clem05.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 1:57:53 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> As promised, here it is. I really like this bike but I really don't ride 
>> it enough and my Appaloosa does all the same stuff. I put it back to a 
>> pretty stock build with a few changes. Normal wear 'n tear from two years 
>> of riding in all types of places. Some scratches here and there but no 
>> dings or anything major.
>>
>>- Alex Adventurer 2 rims with Schwalbe Thunder Burts (2.25) - tubes 
>>in there now but the rims are tubeless compatible
>>- Deore Hubs, V-brakes and rear derailleur, 105 front derailleur
>>- Original Silver 38/24 crank (178mm)
>>- VP pedals (forget the model, bought them from Riv with the bike)
>>- Chocomoose handlebars, Ergon grips (GA3 maybe?), Microshift 9sp 
>>shifters and Sunrace brake levers
>>- Saddle not included
>>
>> Looking for local pickup only in southern NJ (outside of Philly).
>>
>> $1500 sound fair? [image: Clem01.jpg][image: Clem02.jpg]PM me with any 
>> questions.
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>> Bones
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne build video

[Eric Marth]

Thanks all of you for making time to watch! 

David: Seems we have some overlap in our parts, tires and frame 
appreciation! Rob Gassie (frame painter) was able to set that BB free.

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 5:32:19 PM UTC-4 steve wrote:

> Eric,
> Great video.  I very much enjoyed watching.  Great looking Sam.
>
> Steve Tuggle
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 4:46:57 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Great video.  Great color choice on the repaint (yay black and cream).  
>> Glad the old BB finally was able to be extracted.  Love the RH Snoqualmie 
>> Pass tires.  I run them on both my Sam Hillborne and Surly Disc Trucker.
>>
>> Welcome to the Riv family.
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-7 gpgun...@aol.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> Fantastic build video. Well done and very entertaining!
>>>
>>> Gunner 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks to a tip from forum members Liz S. and Paul R. I purchased my 
 first Rivendell earlier this summer. It was a complete Sam Hillborne that 
 I 
 totally overhauled. 

 I made a video of the build process, it's up here 
 . 

 And here are a few pictures of the completed bike. Thanks for having a 
 look ✌️

 [image: Hillborne Sm_01.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_02.jpg][image: 
 Hillborne Sm_03.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_05.jpg][image: Hillborne 
 Sm_06.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_07.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Eric Marth]

Well, people. I swapped the pedals for a spare set of Lambda Grip Kings and 
I had the same click. Right pedal, dull click at three o'clock. More 
noticeable at lower speeds, seems to disappear if I'm pedaling real hard. 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking 
> (these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam 
> a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually 
> overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding. 
> Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just 
> from riding. 
>   Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals. 
>
>  
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone 
>> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" 
>> balls.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
>>> Preferably made in USA? 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>
 TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If 
 the clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a 
 deep dive into other possibilities. 

 If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
 anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
 currently, and check again. 

 Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's 
 play, adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that 
 count.

 If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
 bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
 bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt 
 head 
 is probably small and shallow. 

 If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the 
 space between cages and pedal body. 

 I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body 
 interface---I mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure 
 if it'd be effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 

 That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.

 And just so it's said

 Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.

 Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
 places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
 hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories 
 here 
 if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
 saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
 but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
 can be experienced running it down.

 Good luck!

 Paul Brodek
 Hillsdale, NJ USA

 On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>
> Any ideas for remedies? 
>
> Thanks! 
>


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne build video

[steve]

Eric,
Great video.  I very much enjoyed watching.  Great looking Sam.

Steve Tuggle

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 4:46:57 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Great video.  Great color choice on the repaint (yay black and cream).  
> Glad the old BB finally was able to be extracted.  Love the RH Snoqualmie 
> Pass tires.  I run them on both my Sam Hillborne and Surly Disc Trucker.
>
> Welcome to the Riv family.
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-7 gpgun...@aol.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Eric
>>
>> Fantastic build video. Well done and very entertaining!
>>
>> Gunner 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to a tip from forum members Liz S. and Paul R. I purchased my 
>>> first Rivendell earlier this summer. It was a complete Sam Hillborne that I 
>>> totally overhauled. 
>>>
>>> I made a video of the build process, it's up here 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> And here are a few pictures of the completed bike. Thanks for having a 
>>> look ✌️
>>>
>>> [image: Hillborne Sm_01.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_02.jpg][image: 
>>> Hillborne Sm_03.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_05.jpg][image: Hillborne 
>>> Sm_06.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_07.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne build video

[David Person]

Great video.  Great color choice on the repaint (yay black and cream).  
Glad the old BB finally was able to be extracted.  Love the RH Snoqualmie 
Pass tires.  I run them on both my Sam Hillborne and Surly Disc Trucker.

Welcome to the Riv family.

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 1:05:20 PM UTC-7 gpgun...@aol.com wrote:

> Eric
>
> Fantastic build video. Well done and very entertaining!
>
> Gunner 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to a tip from forum members Liz S. and Paul R. I purchased my 
>> first Rivendell earlier this summer. It was a complete Sam Hillborne that I 
>> totally overhauled. 
>>
>> I made a video of the build process, it's up here 
>> . 
>>
>> And here are a few pictures of the completed bike. Thanks for having a 
>> look ✌️
>>
>> [image: Hillborne Sm_01.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_02.jpg][image: 
>> Hillborne Sm_03.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_05.jpg][image: Hillborne 
>> Sm_06.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_07.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne build video

['Gerard Gunhouse' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric

Fantastic build video. Well done and very entertaining!

Gunner 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks to a tip from forum members Liz S. and Paul R. I purchased my first 
> Rivendell earlier this summer. It was a complete Sam Hillborne that I 
> totally overhauled. 
>
> I made a video of the build process, it's up here 
> . 
>
> And here are a few pictures of the completed bike. Thanks for having a 
> look ✌️
>
> [image: Hillborne Sm_01.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_02.jpg][image: Hillborne 
> Sm_03.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_05.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_06.jpg][image: 
> Hillborne Sm_07.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[E. Ricky Creek]

This is bad/lazy advice, but when my MKS touring pedals start clicking 
(these are the only pedals I use), I take the dust cap off and and just jam 
a bunch of grease in there. It always makes the click go away. I eventually 
overhaul them correctly, but who wants to do that instead of riding. 
Also, in my experience it is pretty easy to tell if it is the pedals just 
from riding. 
  Again, this is only my experience with these specific MKS pedals. 

 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone 
> with loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" 
> balls.
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
>> Preferably made in USA? 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>
>>> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
>>> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
>>> dive into other possibilities. 
>>>
>>> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
>>> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
>>> currently, and check again. 
>>>
>>> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
>>> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>>>
>>> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
>>> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
>>> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
>>> is probably small and shallow. 
>>>
>>> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
>>> between cages and pedal body. 
>>>
>>> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
>>> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
>>> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>>>
>>> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>>>
>>> And just so it's said
>>>
>>> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>>>
>>> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
>>> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
>>> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
>>> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
>>> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
>>> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
>>> can be experienced running it down.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Paul Brodek
>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
 miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
 click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 

 Any ideas for remedies? 

 Thanks! 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[David Person]

I think the endcap is removable and the bearings are simple cup & cone with 
loose ball bearings that should be servicable.  Either 1/8" or 5/32" balls.


On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:44:10 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
> Preferably made in USA? 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
>> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
>> dive into other possibilities. 
>>
>> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
>> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
>> currently, and check again. 
>>
>> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
>> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>>
>> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
>> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
>> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
>> is probably small and shallow. 
>>
>> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
>> between cages and pedal body. 
>>
>> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
>> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
>> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>>
>> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>>
>> And just so it's said
>>
>> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>>
>> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
>> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
>> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
>> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
>> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
>> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
>> can be experienced running it down.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
>>> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
>>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>>
>>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Various things , small parts, couple old stems, vtg 600 mini group

[J Schwartz]

Price Drops and adjustments : shipping included to lower 48

·   *   Paul Comp* - *Thumbie mounts* 
> 
>  - 
> Pair - For Shimano - *31.8 clamp size* 
>
> ·  practically new, only used for about a month.  There is a very 
> small scratch in the black paint on the underside of the mount where you'll 
> never see it once it's mounted
>
> ·  *$65 shipped*
>

  *Paul Comp* - *Stem Cap Light Mount*  
–
 
Black

·  Never used but has been sitting in a parts box for a couple 
years...so minimal shop wear
·  *$25* shipped

 

> · Origin8 Garry ii Handlebars 
> 
>  - 
> Black · *AL6061-T6 construction, * *530mm drop width / 360mm top 
> width,**25º flared drops, **Accepts bar-end shifters*
>
  slight scratches on front near logos  see pics

> ·  *$35 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *White Industries* - *VBC Chainring Bolts* 
> 
>  with 
> the wedges - *actual pic 
> *
>
> ·  New, never used - 5 bolts and 5 wedges plus 1 extra bolt
>
> ·  *$25 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *White Industries *– *Crank Lockring 
> *
>  – 
> Silver
>
> ·  Purchased for a VBC/Eno crank, 3-notch, to be used with *THIS 
> * W.I. 
> lockring tool
>
> ·  *$10 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *Bruce Gordon* - *QS2 
> *
>  - 
> Quick Switch System
>
> ·  To swap two cockpits on one bike
>
> ·  *with instructions* (requires 2 full sets of bars, stem, shifters, 
> levers, tape, housing, cable, etc...Only for shift cables ...and probably 
> intended for Canti brakes where you can just un-straddle the hanger ...not 
> sure how it would platy with V-brakes - *barrels and connecting locks for 
> front derailleur, rear derailleur ,front shifter 1, rear shifter 1, front 
> shifter 2, rear shifter 2*
>
> ·  new unused
>
> ·  *$30 shipped*
>

 

> ·   *   Bruce Gordon* - *Stainless strapless Clips* 
> 
>
> ·  Sizes: *Mens U.S. 10 and under*
>
> ·  Lightly used ...minimal scuffing on front of cages...could easily 
> be sanded/buffed
>
> ·  *$40 shipped*
>

 

> · * Velo Orange* – *Massload Porteur Double Kickstand 
> *
>
> ·  Unused
>
> ·  *$25 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *Shimano XT* – *SPD Pedals 
> *
>  – 
> “XT PD-M785”
>
·  some typical scuffing on outer cages but actually very very low 
> miles on the pedals
>
> ·  *$40 shipped *
>

 

> ·  *MKS* 3000R *traditional rubber pedal 
> *
>
> ·  Unused, some slight shopwear…purchased for my old Bleriot and never 
> used them.  Very handsome, brass nuts, and heavy, great for a city bike
>
> ·  *$30 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *Nitto quill Stem, Unsure of model 
> *.
>   Says 
> 5354 on stem.
>
·  ≈95mm length & ≈ 95mm insertion above max line
>
> ·  I believe it might be a “young 3” stem with a 72º rise
>
> ·  Well used with markings 
>
> ·  *$20 shipped*
>
>
>
> ·  *Shimano 600ex “arabesque” mini group 
> *,
>  
> early ‘80’s
>
> ·  These came on my first steel roadish bike, a Ross Aristocrat.  That 
> bike was great!
>
> ·  Calipers – nutted, Levers w/ blue diacompe hoods, dt shifters on 
> clamp, rear derailleur (short cage), front derailleur 
>
> ·  *$75 shipped*
>
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Eric Marth]

Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
Preferably made in USA? 

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
> dive into other possibilities. 
>
> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
> currently, and check again. 
>
> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>
> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
> is probably small and shallow. 
>
> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
> between cages and pedal body. 
>
> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>
> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>
> And just so it's said
>
> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>
> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
> can be experienced running it down.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
>> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>
>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

Well...it is a Rivendell, and it is on the road. 

Marty - somewhere in Southern Pennsylvania

[image: PXL_20210927_195400550 (1).jpeg]

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 7:18:11 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> the text says "the garden state" which is New Jersey. 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:40:15 PM UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:
>
>> i wish this board requested / required one's location at signoff.  it's a 
>> great looking bike, great looking lake--where in the world is it?
>> thanks
>> paul
>> takoma park, md.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Paul Brodek]

TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
dive into other possibilities. 

If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
currently, and check again. 

Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.

If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
is probably small and shallow. 

If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
between cages and pedal body. 

I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 

That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.

And just so it's said

Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.

Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other places 
on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're hearing/feeling from 
your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here if you do a search. 
Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, saddles, stems and/or 
handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, but the offending tick 
is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony can be experienced 
running it down.

Good luck!

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>
> Any ideas for remedies? 
>
> Thanks! 
>

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[RBW] Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Eric Marth]

I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 

Any ideas for remedies? 

Thanks! 

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