[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Drw]

Not to promote thread drift, but firebox is having a pretty good "black 
friday" (not sure why they are calling that) sale going on right now. 
picked up some christmas gifts. 

On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 6:21:00 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ah, nice, Pam! Looks like they have a ton of nice camping and cooking 
> videos on YouTube. I'll try to resist, I've got a lot of stoves: Trangia, 
> charcoal Weber, old green Coleman and we heat the house with a Jotul 
> woodstove in the winter. 
>
> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 11:15:06 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> https://www.fireboxstove.com/
>> I have the Gen2 nano in stainless and love it.  Beware watching the 
>> videos.  You'll want one.  Don't watch them if you may be tempted.  But 
>> they are super practical - just like Rivs.  If it's just me, this is what I 
>> use instead of my Weber.  And sticks are abundant.
>>
>> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:47:24 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Drew! Can you point me to some of the firebox videos you 
>>> reference? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 1:44:03 PM UTC-5 Drw wrote:
>>>
 Both videos are great. Somehow very calming. I've become somewhat 
 addicted to the firebox stove videos which evoke a similar feeling... 
 maybe 
 it's river noises in the background. Thanks for sharing!
 On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:29:40 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Dang, thanks everyone for your kind replies! I'm so glad to hear 
> you've enjoyed the vid, thanks for spending some time. 
>
> David: The clouds passing at the higher altitudes in the mountains is 
> lovely! 
>
> Ben: Ha! I was a bit fried when I first got the Appaloosa, I guess it 
> all boils away in the production. 
>
> Hugh: The soundtrack is small rapids I recorded nearby on the 
> Rappahannock River. I'm glad you liked it :) 
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Very enjoyable video to watch, I particularly enjoyed the babbling 
>> stream soundtrack while you worked in your shop.
>>
>> Hugh 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:09:33 AM UTC-8 
>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new 
>>> this summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and 
>>> assembly 
>>> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: PSA - Brooks B68 Saddles IN STOCK

[Pam Bikes]

I looked at it briefly.  I have the B68S w/the shorter nose so I think this 
is the one w/out the S - longer nose.  Keep me posted if you see a B68S.
Thanks,
Pam

On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 5:44:39 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Thanks Laing!
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> Bikeinn has Brooks B-68 honey saddles in stock. This is not the first 
>> time that I have found long out of production items there, that is where I 
>> bought Speedplay Drillium pedals last year - I half did not believe them 
>> until the pedals were delivered. $92.99 + 10.99 = $103.98 shipped for a B68 
>> is not a bad price either. I only ordered 1, but it let me put 5 in the 
>> basket. I have no affiliation with Bikeinn, just another customer, but I 
>> know that there are others that, like myself, love the B68.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bike to Ride 70 Miles On

[Jason Fuller]

That's awesome!  I have ridden a couple 200km (130 mile?) rides on my 
Hillborne now and will push as far as I'm physically willing to on that 
bike - it's not the fastest bike, for sure, but the comfort becomes really 
welcome on very long rides, along with the stable handling. I have 
considered a lighter, faster feeling bike for big rides but honestly I 
don't think I'd like that better overall considering how nicely the Sam 
rides. 

I think comfort and intuitive handling are the top characteristics for 
all-day rides to me, and this covers most Rivs thankfully! 


On Sunday, 14 November 2021 at 06:48:09 UTC-8 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> Congratulations on completing the birthday ride!  I agree, any bicycle 
> will do.  
>
> This:  * >   Time and determination are key  I think   <*
>
> All the Best,
>
> Jeff & Lori
> Claremont, CA
>
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:31:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've seen your friends on those Townies a number of times at WWL, aways 
>> do a smile & a wave.
>> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 7:48:54 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Good on you guys! made my day!
>>>
>>> I turn 70 next December (2022)...maybe I'll make that a goal! I'm sure 
>>> your wife and her friend were glad you came along. If I was doing something 
>>> like this, I'd want company too...and it doesn't matter how long it takes. 
>>> Ideally I'd do some kind of out-and-back  into the wind in the AM and 
>>> tailwind for the PM but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I'd have to 
>>> work up to it , though
>>>
>>> Yes, Rivs are fine bikes. I'd probably use my Road with drop bars...my 
>>> other ones have moustache and choco; after 50 miles I'm missing drop bars.
>>>
>>> But enough about me...congratulations to all of you!
>>>
>>> Ryan in Winnipeg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:00:06 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 That’s rad!
 Those Electra pedal-forward bikes have kept my in laws able to bike 
 into their 70’s.
 My mom finally overcame her personal feelings associated with trikes, 
 and bought one last year (her balance is poor following an injury). Now 
 she 
 rides that trike whenever the weather allows and just loves having the 
 option to bike.
 I agree, if you’re comfortable on a bicycle the only limit to how far 
 you can ride it is your own endurance. 
 Happy Birthday to your wife!

 On Nov 13, 2021, at 20:51, st nick  wrote:

 


 What bike would you pick to ride 70 miles?

 Some of you probably regularly do that distance.

 My regular range is 20 to 40 miles.

 It's been a long time since I rode 70 miles and I was a much younger 
 fellow.

 I think about any Rivendell model is up to the task.

 Of course a lot depends on the rider and if they are up to the task.

 Some might choose their lightest and/or fastest bike.

 I pose this question to see what people think and there will likely be 
 a lot of different view points about it.

 I learned something today.
 A bike one wouldn't necessarily think would be a good candidate for 
 that mileage can still work.

 My wife and her good friend decided they wanted to make a 70 mile 
 attempt today to celebrate my wife turning 70.

 I'm along for the ride and mechanical support if needed.

 I admit was a bit skeptical as they haven't been doing a great deal of 
 riding the last few months  perhaps in the range of 30 or so per week.

 Heck, I didn't even know if I could make it that far.

 Also they have comfort style Electra  Townie and Trek Pure bikes. (Very 
 similar...I think Trek bought Electra) not exactly light weights. They 
 have 
 that pedal forward design in which the bottom bracket and crank are 3 or 
 so 
 inches forward of the seat tube.

 This allows a rider to have their saddle at the correct height but put 
 their foot on the ground without getting off the saddle. 

 Cool design for certain riders, I think, especially older people of 
 which our group of 3 are getting into that category.


 One is geared 1x7 and one a 2x7 and both have grip shifts.

 I should have probably taken my Sam Hillbourne but we needed a basket 
 to carry stuff so I grabbed my 1990 Miele mtb I had converted to urban 
 cruiser and grocery getter. It's very comfortable and has a pretty relaxed 
 geometry. 

 I think around 40 miles was my previous longest distance on it.

 I keep all 3 bicycles pretty well maintained. 

 It started out at around 40 degrees and we had to layer up for the 
 start and have somewhere to carry layers we would take off later in the 
 day 
 as well as snacks and extra water.

 Well , we made it 73 miles on those bikes.

 It took practically all day as we only 

Re: [RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Patrick Moore]

I think I'll let my daughter find a turntable -- her gen finds them
appealing, I guess, how we Boomers find wind-up Victrolas -- and have her
make a digital copy with all the hisses scratches and pops.

Seriously, I do have B-o-B in MP3 format.

"Album." Now there's an out-of-date term; even LPs weren't truly "albums,"
which named thick collections of shellac 78s in bound sleeves. (I do
remember turntables with 78, 45, and 33 1/3 rpm speed selections, though.)

I sang to my infant daughter too, mostly old American folk songs. She's
never forgiven me in the 20 years of her life. Kidding, but I expect I got
as much pleasure from it as she.

Back to bikes: I wish my daughter would ask me to build her a RBW-ian type
bike, but she's artsy rather than bikey.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 3:52 PM Paul Brodek  wrote:

> 1. "Somebody" needs a turntable. I'm sure ibob can hook you up.
> 2. My oldest son was what we still evidently call colicky. There were only
> 3 surefire routes to a subtle rocking sleep:
> a. Missippi John Hurt, "Best Of" (Oberlin College, '65): He could not last
> beyond Here I Am, Lord Send Me/I Shall Not Be Moved/Nearer My God To Thee.
> Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
> b. Keith Jarrett+, Standards Vol I: God Bless The Child was the magic
> cut---but this was only available in Laser Disc for years, so cuing that
> all up etc was quite the production.
> c. Me singing "Cockles and Mussels," in the worst fake Irish accent
> possible; don't know where that came from, maybe from mom's rural Tenn
> childhood? Though I never heard her sing it. Definitely not with my mostly
> German dad. All I took away from that was the childhood horrors of
> Struwwelpeter. Cockles & Mussels took 3 or 4 cycles/renditions for sleep to
> arrive, but I could sing it without having to power up a musical
> reproduction device.
> 3. I've had some recent insomnia, and there's been some MJH,
> Garcia/Grisman, also Coltrane/Coleman/Miles/Monk, and lots of Leonard
> Cohen. I find the musical content taking precedence over the reproduction
> quality, so low-volume smartphone playback substitutes nicely in place of
> Patrick's wayback speaker sandwich; also bone induction headphones are
> comfy to fall asleep to. Oh, and BTW to Patrick, there's something to be
> said for lumping a whole bunch of digitized files together and being able
> to hit Play and get 100 cuts of whatever floats yer boat to unspool into
> your brain.
>
> If there's an off-ramp back to On-Topic Land, youngest son is now 28,
> wondering where his childhood went, and I'm busy scheming ways to get him
> to take away 2-3 of my bikes as "his," convenient because both boys and me
> fit the same size bikes. I'm sure he wouldn't mind me borrowing one of
> "his" bikes if I drop in...
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 3:01:55 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Yah! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>>
>> Jerry Garcia and compadre channeling Mississippi John Hurt (an orig vers
>> here: https://youtu.be/vPuj2dUeyJ4) but doing it better. And Whiskey in
>> the Jar, etc.
>>
>> Seriously, I've been listening to Bob since 1969, so I'm not deprecating
>> his very obvious genious. (I also had a small MJH collection, not to
>> mention the obvious Muddy Waters, BB King, etc etc etc.)
>>
>> Funny anecdote; at least, funny to me: one of my favorite albums circa
>> 1969 was Dylan's Blonde on Blonde -- I still think it's one of his best. I
>> recall teenage insomnia, when I would leave my bed, go to the "parlour,"
>> the sitting room for our children's part of the house, where my father had
>> installed his castoff Phillips stereo when he upgraded. I'd take the
>> speakers off the wall where they were hanging, set up a pallent on my floor
>> and sit the speakers one by each ear, and listen to my faves. My parents
>> were in the new part of the house, about a half-mile away, and the 2 of my
>> 3 siblings who slept in the old part slept soundly.
>>
>> Anyway, 52 years later, my daughter's boyfriend, a musician, very sweetly
>> presented me with that same Blonde on Blonde album; only now, I have
>> nothing to play it on. I'll use it as wall art.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:12 PM John A. Bennett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At least as good as Dylan? Wht? Call me confused!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/static/uploads/2020/03/Watch-Bob-Dylans-iconic-San-Francisco-press-conference-1965-768x586.jpg
>>>
>>> John in Portland, Ore.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:32:24 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape,
 not HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell
 current formats are is something I find confusing.

 I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David
 Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes.

 Is there any *secure and reliable source* from which to pay online by
 PP or 

Re: [RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Paul Brodek]

1. "Somebody" needs a turntable. I'm sure ibob can hook you up.
2. My oldest son was what we still evidently call colicky. There were only 
3 surefire routes to a subtle rocking sleep:
a. Missippi John Hurt, "Best Of" (Oberlin College, '65): He could not last 
beyond Here I Am, Lord Send Me/I Shall Not Be Moved/Nearer My God To Thee. 
Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
b. Keith Jarrett+, Standards Vol I: God Bless The Child was the magic 
cut---but this was only available in Laser Disc for years, so cuing that 
all up etc was quite the production.
c. Me singing "Cockles and Mussels," in the worst fake Irish accent 
possible; don't know where that came from, maybe from mom's rural Tenn 
childhood? Though I never heard her sing it. Definitely not with my mostly 
German dad. All I took away from that was the childhood horrors of 
Struwwelpeter. Cockles & Mussels took 3 or 4 cycles/renditions for sleep to 
arrive, but I could sing it without having to power up a musical 
reproduction device. 
3. I've had some recent insomnia, and there's been some MJH, 
Garcia/Grisman, also Coltrane/Coleman/Miles/Monk, and lots of Leonard 
Cohen. I find the musical content taking precedence over the reproduction 
quality, so low-volume smartphone playback substitutes nicely in place of 
Patrick's wayback speaker sandwich; also bone induction headphones are 
comfy to fall asleep to. Oh, and BTW to Patrick, there's something to be 
said for lumping a whole bunch of digitized files together and being able 
to hit Play and get 100 cuts of whatever floats yer boat to unspool into 
your brain. 

If there's an off-ramp back to On-Topic Land, youngest son is now 28, 
wondering where his childhood went, and I'm busy scheming ways to get him 
to take away 2-3 of my bikes as "his," convenient because both boys and me 
fit the same size bikes. I'm sure he wouldn't mind me borrowing one of 
"his" bikes if I drop in...

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 3:01:55 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Yah! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>
> Jerry Garcia and compadre channeling Mississippi John Hurt (an orig vers 
> here: https://youtu.be/vPuj2dUeyJ4) but doing it better. And Whiskey in 
> the Jar, etc.
>
> Seriously, I've been listening to Bob since 1969, so I'm not deprecating 
> his very obvious genious. (I also had a small MJH collection, not to 
> mention the obvious Muddy Waters, BB King, etc etc etc.)
>
> Funny anecdote; at least, funny to me: one of my favorite albums circa 
> 1969 was Dylan's Blonde on Blonde -- I still think it's one of his best. I 
> recall teenage insomnia, when I would leave my bed, go to the "parlour," 
> the sitting room for our children's part of the house, where my father had 
> installed his castoff Phillips stereo when he upgraded. I'd take the 
> speakers off the wall where they were hanging, set up a pallent on my floor 
> and sit the speakers one by each ear, and listen to my faves. My parents 
> were in the new part of the house, about a half-mile away, and the 2 of my 
> 3 siblings who slept in the old part slept soundly.
>
> Anyway, 52 years later, my daughter's boyfriend, a musician, very sweetly 
> presented me with that same Blonde on Blonde album; only now, I have 
> nothing to play it on. I'll use it as wall art.
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:12 PM John A. Bennett  wrote:
>
>> At least as good as Dylan? Wht? Call me confused! 
>>
>>
>> https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/static/uploads/2020/03/Watch-Bob-Dylans-iconic-San-Francisco-press-conference-1965-768x586.jpg
>>
>> John in Portland, Ore.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:32:24 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape, 
>>> not HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell 
>>> current formats are is something I find confusing.
>>>
>>> I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David 
>>> Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes. 
>>>
>>> Is there any *secure and reliable source* from which to pay online by 
>>> PP or CC and download the whole albums to one's computer?
>>>
>>> Not long ago I bought the Complete Works of JS Bach on 142 or so CDs, 
>>> and have had to beg and pay people to convert them to files I can store on 
>>> my computer and on a separate hard drive. 
>>>
>>> In anticipated appreciation of all y'alls help, I append this, which 
>>> sufficiently proves the reasonableness of my desire.
>>>
>>> Note: This track is pure "just ride" music.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>> -- 
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[RBW] Re: PSA - Brooks B68 Saddles IN STOCK

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Laing!
-Kai

On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Bikeinn has Brooks B-68 honey saddles in stock. This is not the first time 
> that I have found long out of production items there, that is where I 
> bought Speedplay Drillium pedals last year - I half did not believe them 
> until the pedals were delivered. $92.99 + 10.99 = $103.98 shipped for a B68 
> is not a bad price either. I only ordered 1, but it let me put 5 in the 
> basket. I have no affiliation with Bikeinn, just another customer, but I 
> know that there are others that, like myself, love the B68.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>

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[RBW] PSA - Brooks B68 Saddles IN STOCK

[lconley]

Bikeinn has Brooks B-68 honey saddles in stock. This is not the first time 
that I have found long out of production items there, that is where I 
bought Speedplay Drillium pedals last year - I half did not believe them 
until the pedals were delivered. $92.99 + 10.99 = $103.98 shipped for a B68 
is not a bad price either. I only ordered 1, but it let me put 5 in the 
basket. I have no affiliation with Bikeinn, just another customer, but I 
know that there are others that, like myself, love the B68.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

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Re: [RBW] Bike to Ride 70 Miles On

[Jeffrey Arita]

Congratulations on completing the birthday ride!  I agree, any bicycle will 
do.  

This:  * >   Time and determination are key  I think   <*

All the Best,

Jeff & Lori
Claremont, CA

On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:31:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I've seen your friends on those Townies a number of times at WWL, aways do 
> a smile & a wave.
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 7:48:54 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Good on you guys! made my day!
>>
>> I turn 70 next December (2022)...maybe I'll make that a goal! I'm sure 
>> your wife and her friend were glad you came along. If I was doing something 
>> like this, I'd want company too...and it doesn't matter how long it takes. 
>> Ideally I'd do some kind of out-and-back  into the wind in the AM and 
>> tailwind for the PM but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I'd have to 
>> work up to it , though
>>
>> Yes, Rivs are fine bikes. I'd probably use my Road with drop bars...my 
>> other ones have moustache and choco; after 50 miles I'm missing drop bars.
>>
>> But enough about me...congratulations to all of you!
>>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:00:06 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> That’s rad!
>>> Those Electra pedal-forward bikes have kept my in laws able to bike into 
>>> their 70’s.
>>> My mom finally overcame her personal feelings associated with trikes, 
>>> and bought one last year (her balance is poor following an injury). Now she 
>>> rides that trike whenever the weather allows and just loves having the 
>>> option to bike.
>>> I agree, if you’re comfortable on a bicycle the only limit to how far 
>>> you can ride it is your own endurance. 
>>> Happy Birthday to your wife!
>>>
>>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 20:51, st nick  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> What bike would you pick to ride 70 miles?
>>>
>>> Some of you probably regularly do that distance.
>>>
>>> My regular range is 20 to 40 miles.
>>>
>>> It's been a long time since I rode 70 miles and I was a much younger 
>>> fellow.
>>>
>>> I think about any Rivendell model is up to the task.
>>>
>>> Of course a lot depends on the rider and if they are up to the task.
>>>
>>> Some might choose their lightest and/or fastest bike.
>>>
>>> I pose this question to see what people think and there will likely be a 
>>> lot of different view points about it.
>>>
>>> I learned something today.
>>> A bike one wouldn't necessarily think would be a good candidate for that 
>>> mileage can still work.
>>>
>>> My wife and her good friend decided they wanted to make a 70 mile 
>>> attempt today to celebrate my wife turning 70.
>>>
>>> I'm along for the ride and mechanical support if needed.
>>>
>>> I admit was a bit skeptical as they haven't been doing a great deal of 
>>> riding the last few months  perhaps in the range of 30 or so per week.
>>>
>>> Heck, I didn't even know if I could make it that far.
>>>
>>> Also they have comfort style Electra  Townie and Trek Pure bikes. (Very 
>>> similar...I think Trek bought Electra) not exactly light weights. They have 
>>> that pedal forward design in which the bottom bracket and crank are 3 or so 
>>> inches forward of the seat tube.
>>>
>>> This allows a rider to have their saddle at the correct height but put 
>>> their foot on the ground without getting off the saddle. 
>>>
>>> Cool design for certain riders, I think, especially older people of 
>>> which our group of 3 are getting into that category.
>>>
>>>
>>> One is geared 1x7 and one a 2x7 and both have grip shifts.
>>>
>>> I should have probably taken my Sam Hillbourne but we needed a basket to 
>>> carry stuff so I grabbed my 1990 Miele mtb I had converted to urban cruiser 
>>> and grocery getter. It's very comfortable and has a pretty relaxed 
>>> geometry. 
>>>
>>> I think around 40 miles was my previous longest distance on it.
>>>
>>> I keep all 3 bicycles pretty well maintained. 
>>>
>>> It started out at around 40 degrees and we had to layer up for the start 
>>> and have somewhere to carry layers we would take off later in the day as 
>>> well as snacks and extra water.
>>>
>>> Well , we made it 73 miles on those bikes.
>>>
>>> It took practically all day as we only averaged 10.3 mph ,so around 7 
>>> hours ride time and around 2 or a bit more hours down time for lunch and 4 
>>> or 5 breaks.
>>>
>>> Gosh, this is long.
>>>
>>> We are all exhausted and exhilarated and a bit giddy we actually did it 
>>> being our age and I'm a year older.
>>>
>>> I'm feeling blessed to still be able to do it.
>>>
>>> Slow riders on not fast bikes and perhaps not optimum bikes can still do 
>>> it.
>>> Time and determination are key  I think.
>>>
>>> Safe riding, 
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
>>> <2023_215215.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .
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Re: [RBW] Bike to Ride 70 Miles On

[Philip Barrett]

I've seen your friends on those Townies a number of times at WWL, aways do 
a smile & a wave.
On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 7:48:54 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:

> Good on you guys! made my day!
>
> I turn 70 next December (2022)...maybe I'll make that a goal! I'm sure 
> your wife and her friend were glad you came along. If I was doing something 
> like this, I'd want company too...and it doesn't matter how long it takes. 
> Ideally I'd do some kind of out-and-back  into the wind in the AM and 
> tailwind for the PM but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I'd have to 
> work up to it , though
>
> Yes, Rivs are fine bikes. I'd probably use my Road with drop bars...my 
> other ones have moustache and choco; after 50 miles I'm missing drop bars.
>
> But enough about me...congratulations to all of you!
>
> Ryan in Winnipeg
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:00:06 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>
>> That’s rad!
>> Those Electra pedal-forward bikes have kept my in laws able to bike into 
>> their 70’s.
>> My mom finally overcame her personal feelings associated with trikes, and 
>> bought one last year (her balance is poor following an injury). Now she 
>> rides that trike whenever the weather allows and just loves having the 
>> option to bike.
>> I agree, if you’re comfortable on a bicycle the only limit to how far you 
>> can ride it is your own endurance. 
>> Happy Birthday to your wife!
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 20:51, st nick  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> What bike would you pick to ride 70 miles?
>>
>> Some of you probably regularly do that distance.
>>
>> My regular range is 20 to 40 miles.
>>
>> It's been a long time since I rode 70 miles and I was a much younger 
>> fellow.
>>
>> I think about any Rivendell model is up to the task.
>>
>> Of course a lot depends on the rider and if they are up to the task.
>>
>> Some might choose their lightest and/or fastest bike.
>>
>> I pose this question to see what people think and there will likely be a 
>> lot of different view points about it.
>>
>> I learned something today.
>> A bike one wouldn't necessarily think would be a good candidate for that 
>> mileage can still work.
>>
>> My wife and her good friend decided they wanted to make a 70 mile attempt 
>> today to celebrate my wife turning 70.
>>
>> I'm along for the ride and mechanical support if needed.
>>
>> I admit was a bit skeptical as they haven't been doing a great deal of 
>> riding the last few months  perhaps in the range of 30 or so per week.
>>
>> Heck, I didn't even know if I could make it that far.
>>
>> Also they have comfort style Electra  Townie and Trek Pure bikes. (Very 
>> similar...I think Trek bought Electra) not exactly light weights. They have 
>> that pedal forward design in which the bottom bracket and crank are 3 or so 
>> inches forward of the seat tube.
>>
>> This allows a rider to have their saddle at the correct height but put 
>> their foot on the ground without getting off the saddle. 
>>
>> Cool design for certain riders, I think, especially older people of which 
>> our group of 3 are getting into that category.
>>
>>
>> One is geared 1x7 and one a 2x7 and both have grip shifts.
>>
>> I should have probably taken my Sam Hillbourne but we needed a basket to 
>> carry stuff so I grabbed my 1990 Miele mtb I had converted to urban cruiser 
>> and grocery getter. It's very comfortable and has a pretty relaxed 
>> geometry. 
>>
>> I think around 40 miles was my previous longest distance on it.
>>
>> I keep all 3 bicycles pretty well maintained. 
>>
>> It started out at around 40 degrees and we had to layer up for the start 
>> and have somewhere to carry layers we would take off later in the day as 
>> well as snacks and extra water.
>>
>> Well , we made it 73 miles on those bikes.
>>
>> It took practically all day as we only averaged 10.3 mph ,so around 7 
>> hours ride time and around 2 or a bit more hours down time for lunch and 4 
>> or 5 breaks.
>>
>> Gosh, this is long.
>>
>> We are all exhausted and exhilarated and a bit giddy we actually did it 
>> being our age and I'm a year older.
>>
>> I'm feeling blessed to still be able to do it.
>>
>> Slow riders on not fast bikes and perhaps not optimum bikes can still do 
>> it.
>> Time and determination are key  I think.
>>
>> Safe riding, 
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>>
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[Ryan]

Good on you guys! made my day!

I turn 70 next December (2022)...maybe I'll make that a goal! I'm sure your 
wife and her friend were glad you came along. If I was doing something like 
this, I'd want company too...and it doesn't matter how long it takes. 
Ideally I'd do some kind of out-and-back  into the wind in the AM and 
tailwind for the PM but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I'd have to 
work up to it , though

Yes, Rivs are fine bikes. I'd probably use my Road with drop bars...my 
other ones have moustache and choco; after 50 miles I'm missing drop bars.

But enough about me...congratulations to all of you!

Ryan in Winnipeg




On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:00:06 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:

> That’s rad!
> Those Electra pedal-forward bikes have kept my in laws able to bike into 
> their 70’s.
> My mom finally overcame her personal feelings associated with trikes, and 
> bought one last year (her balance is poor following an injury). Now she 
> rides that trike whenever the weather allows and just loves having the 
> option to bike.
> I agree, if you’re comfortable on a bicycle the only limit to how far you 
> can ride it is your own endurance. 
> Happy Birthday to your wife!
>
> On Nov 13, 2021, at 20:51, st nick  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> What bike would you pick to ride 70 miles?
>
> Some of you probably regularly do that distance.
>
> My regular range is 20 to 40 miles.
>
> It's been a long time since I rode 70 miles and I was a much younger 
> fellow.
>
> I think about any Rivendell model is up to the task.
>
> Of course a lot depends on the rider and if they are up to the task.
>
> Some might choose their lightest and/or fastest bike.
>
> I pose this question to see what people think and there will likely be a 
> lot of different view points about it.
>
> I learned something today.
> A bike one wouldn't necessarily think would be a good candidate for that 
> mileage can still work.
>
> My wife and her good friend decided they wanted to make a 70 mile attempt 
> today to celebrate my wife turning 70.
>
> I'm along for the ride and mechanical support if needed.
>
> I admit was a bit skeptical as they haven't been doing a great deal of 
> riding the last few months  perhaps in the range of 30 or so per week.
>
> Heck, I didn't even know if I could make it that far.
>
> Also they have comfort style Electra  Townie and Trek Pure bikes. (Very 
> similar...I think Trek bought Electra) not exactly light weights. They have 
> that pedal forward design in which the bottom bracket and crank are 3 or so 
> inches forward of the seat tube.
>
> This allows a rider to have their saddle at the correct height but put 
> their foot on the ground without getting off the saddle. 
>
> Cool design for certain riders, I think, especially older people of which 
> our group of 3 are getting into that category.
>
>
> One is geared 1x7 and one a 2x7 and both have grip shifts.
>
> I should have probably taken my Sam Hillbourne but we needed a basket to 
> carry stuff so I grabbed my 1990 Miele mtb I had converted to urban cruiser 
> and grocery getter. It's very comfortable and has a pretty relaxed 
> geometry. 
>
> I think around 40 miles was my previous longest distance on it.
>
> I keep all 3 bicycles pretty well maintained. 
>
> It started out at around 40 degrees and we had to layer up for the start 
> and have somewhere to carry layers we would take off later in the day as 
> well as snacks and extra water.
>
> Well , we made it 73 miles on those bikes.
>
> It took practically all day as we only averaged 10.3 mph ,so around 7 
> hours ride time and around 2 or a bit more hours down time for lunch and 4 
> or 5 breaks.
>
> Gosh, this is long.
>
> We are all exhausted and exhilarated and a bit giddy we actually did it 
> being our age and I'm a year older.
>
> I'm feeling blessed to still be able to do it.
>
> Slow riders on not fast bikes and perhaps not optimum bikes can still do 
> it.
> Time and determination are key  I think.
>
> Safe riding, 
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
> <2023_215215.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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