Re: [RBW] Re: Updates on, and further questions regarding the Riv Road Standard 1995

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Congratulations on your decision, you should be able to get a stem length 
and bar reach to fit you.

One word of caution, the smaller frame has a short headtube.   This limits 
how far down the stem quill can go in the head tube.  A Nitto Technomic 
(225mm stem quill length) may hit the "bottom" of the head tube before 
reaching the point where the clamp is at same height as the saddle.  This 
has occurred at once in the past on this board.

You can check this with a shorter stem and use the result to determine what 
quill length you need.  You would need to know your Saddle Height or at 
least PBH and subtract 10cm for an approximate saddle height.



John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 10:15:44 PM UTC-5 Adrianna T wrote:

> Thanks everyone who responded and who helped out. I didn’t have the chance 
> to respond to each of you, but I read and appreciated all your messages. 
>
> So today I went back with a trusted bike friend and we did the stand over. 
> Somehow, this bike frame is a fit. Even though I am 5’5, I think my shorter 
> torso helps with the reach. 
>
> I will spend the next couple of weeks building it up with the help of some 
> friends here in San Francisco, who will be helping me pick and locate 
> parts. 
>
> I will update my progress and post the finished product at some point. 
>
> - Adrianna
>
> On Jan 29, 2022, at 4:00 PM, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Adrianna
>
> Here are my answers to your questions
>
>  
>
> --Question 1: What is your usual distance from pedal center to top of 
> saddle?
>
> Saddle Height (SH) is measured from the center of the BB spindle to the 
> top of the saddle along the seat tube.   Not to a pedal located to some 
> position in it’s rotation.  
>
>  
>
>  You can adjust the saddle so there is a slight bend in your leg when your 
> on the saddle and the pedal is at 5 o’clock, but it is NOT Saddle Height.  
> Pedal at 5 o’clock typically puts the crank arm parallel to the seat tube.
>
>  
>
> Grant Peterson has stated Saddle Height is related to PBH by  SH = PBH 
> – 10 to 11 cm.  a few times in the Rivendell Readers.   For example, I’m 
> 5’7”, my PBH is 80.6cm and my SH is 70.5cm (set by someone watching pedal 
> on my bike in a trainer).  This difference is 10.1cm, very close to Grant.
>
>  
>
> SO if you your PBH, you can get a good approximation of your SH.
>
>  
>
> A 5’5” person typically uses a 170mm (17cm) crank arm.  Even if you used a 
> 165mm arm, the distance is reduced by only 5mm (0.5cm) which is very small 
> change compared to the 87cm distance from saddle to pedal given my 70cm SH 
> and I use a 17cm crank arm.  Crank arm length is typically a fine tuning 
>  adjustment
>
>  
>
>  
>
> --Question 2: What is your usual top of saddle (at seat tube centerline) 
> and handlebar heights?
>
> BAR HEIGHT is typically referenced to the Top of the Saddle, not to the 
> Ground.  Your bars are in 1 of 3 positions:
>
> Bars BELOW the Saddle by XXcm
>
> Bars EVEN with the Saddle, 0cm difference
>
> Bars ABOVE the Saddle by XXcm
>
>  
>
> I keep my bars EVEN with the Saddle to 1cm BELOW the Saddle, depending on 
> my fitness level.  I find I am comfortable in the drops and prefer the 
> drops vs the brake hoods.
>
>  
>
> 15 to 20 years ago Rivendell recommended bars even with saddle.  Now they 
> say Bars above saddle.   I feel my setting (Even to 1cm Below) are within 
> their recommendations.
>
>  
>
> The lower the bars, your muscles are mor effective, but there is more 
> weight is on your hands and your hands can get numb.  The higher the bars 
> are, less weight on the hands and you are more upright, but your muscles 
> are less effective
>
>  
>
> If I read you diagram correctly, your bars are 3.5” (9cm) BELOW the Saddle 
> (37” – 33.5”).  This is an extremely LOW bar position, typically used by 
> the pros. 
>
>  
>
> -Question 3: What is your usual distance from top of saddle (at seat tube 
> centerline) to handlebar center?
>
> My distance (Saddle where ST would come through to center of the stem 
> clamp) is 60.4cm on my 88 Voyageur (53.3cm STL, 54cm TTL, 74° STA, 71°HTA, 
> 71cm SH) with Bars EVEN with Saddle and 1 7cm stem length.   This along 
> with a drop bar reach of 11.5cm (C-E) puts my back at a 45° or slightly 
> higher position (back angle referenced to the horizontal).
>
>  
>
> This distance plus the Bar REACH results in your back at a certain angle 
> to the horizontal.   Long distances result in LOW back angles and mor 
> weight on your arms and hands,  Short distances result in HIGH back angles, 
> you are more upright and less weight on arms and hands.  15 to 20 years ago 
> Rivendell recommended a 45° back angle.  Now they recommend HIGHER angles, 
> more upright. I am comfortable with 45°, but it’s a personal choice.
>
>  
>
> Additional Info
>
>  
>
> I calculated the distance from Saddle to stem clamp for a 50cm Ramboiulet 
> since 

[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

[image: FECE4CC1-CCA6-48D0-A2BA-33437A674267.jpeg]I have a white leather 
Rivet on my raspberry Platypus! It is shorter, but also that means it 
cheats you of some setback on your seatpost. I love it for comfort though. 
Rivet Sonora.

Leah


On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 5:38:32 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I think Rivet has some shorter nosed saddles, too.  Good reputation.  I've 
> never ridden one, though.
>
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 10:33:00 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the good ideas. That Berthoud Marie Blanque looks good: 
>> leather with the shorter length I like. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 6:03:36 AM UTC-8 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On my platypus (soon to be on my Clem), I've tried the B17 regular, B17 
>>> special, B67s, and have settled on the speedy but comfier to me Gilles 
>>> Berthoud Marie Blanque. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
 After having tried quite a number of different saddles over the years, 
 my wife has the Selle Italia Lady Gel flow saddle (in the 160mm wide L 
 size) on all her bikes: 
 https://www.selleitalia.com/en/saddles/lady-gel-flow-s/.

 Nick

>>>

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

[Roberta]

I think Rivet has some shorter nosed saddles, too.  Good reputation.  I've 
never ridden one, though.

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 10:33:00 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> Thanks for all the good ideas. That Berthoud Marie Blanque looks good: 
> leather with the shorter length I like. 
>
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 6:03:36 AM UTC-8 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On my platypus (soon to be on my Clem), I've tried the B17 regular, B17 
>> special, B67s, and have settled on the speedy but comfier to me Gilles 
>> Berthoud Marie Blanque. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> After having tried quite a number of different saddles over the years, 
>>> my wife has the Selle Italia Lady Gel flow saddle (in the 160mm wide L 
>>> size) on all her bikes: 
>>> https://www.selleitalia.com/en/saddles/lady-gel-flow-s/.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

[Sofie C]

Oops I meant that the Marie Blanque is "spendier" not speedier! It's 
beautiful in person too.

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 1:32:08 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ariel is pretty happy with her Brooks B67s, but would opt out of springs 
> if doing it again.
>
> Jared
>
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 9:05:44 AM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> My wife like the B67 on her tiny 47cm Betty Foy and she uses the Nitto 
>> lugged seat post.
>>
>> A lot rides on figuring out how wide your sit bones actually are. Mine 
>> are wider than average so I'm not comfortable at all on B17's or C17's. I 
>> like the wide Berthoud saddles, Aubisque & Vars, because I don't get thigh 
>> rub but they're wide enough for my sit bones. 
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>>
>>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
>>> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
>>> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
>>> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
>>> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
>>> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
>>> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
>>> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
>>> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
>>> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
>>> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
>>> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
>>> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
>>> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>>> Linda
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

[Jared Wilson]

Ariel is pretty happy with her Brooks B67s, but would opt out of springs if 
doing it again.

Jared

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 9:05:44 AM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:

> My wife like the B67 on her tiny 47cm Betty Foy and she uses the Nitto 
> lugged seat post.
>
> A lot rides on figuring out how wide your sit bones actually are. Mine are 
> wider than average so I'm not comfortable at all on B17's or C17's. I like 
> the wide Berthoud saddles, Aubisque & Vars, because I don't get thigh rub 
> but they're wide enough for my sit bones. 
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>
>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
>> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
>> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
>> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
>> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
>> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
>> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
>> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
>> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
>> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
>> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
>> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
>> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
>> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>> Linda
>>
>

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[RBW] BikeSnobNYC, 2022 Five Boro NYC Bike tour promo video on Platypus. Reviews of prior tours requested.

[Roberta]

Here's a promotion that Bike Snob NYC did with Terry Barentsen.  Looks like 
fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A

Is it worth it?  Most reviews I've heard basically say it's fun one time, 
but wouldn't do it again.  

Roberta

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My wife like the B67 on her tiny 47cm Betty Foy and she uses the Nitto 
lugged seat post.

A lot rides on figuring out how wide your sit bones actually are. Mine are 
wider than average so I'm not comfortable at all on B17's or C17's. I like 
the wide Berthoud saddles, Aubisque & Vars, because I don't get thigh rub 
but they're wide enough for my sit bones. 

John

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
>

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

[Linda G]

Thanks for all the good ideas. That Berthoud Marie Blanque looks good: 
leather with the shorter length I like. 

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 6:03:36 AM UTC-8 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> On my platypus (soon to be on my Clem), I've tried the B17 regular, B17 
> special, B67s, and have settled on the speedy but comfier to me Gilles 
> Berthoud Marie Blanque. 
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> After having tried quite a number of different saddles over the years, my 
>> wife has the Selle Italia Lady Gel flow saddle (in the 160mm wide L size) 
>> on all her bikes: https://www.selleitalia.com/en/saddles/lady-gel-flow-s/
>> .
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite 26" tires

[Patch T]

I hope they are! I just got the RH Naches Pass (26x1.8) for my 92 XO-1 
(they fit, there's ample clearance, actual width might be narrower).
+1 for Panaracer Gravelkings. Shop around and you can find decent deals.

Patch
NYC

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:44:30 PM UTC-5 Lynn Haas wrote:

> I have. They look nice. Are they $148 nice? 
>
> Lynn
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Have you looked at Rene Herse? 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: a few assorted parts - Nitto, Crust, RH...

[Patch T]

(hmmm please ignore the numbers; copy and pasting is messing up the 
formatting...)

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 9:45:19 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:

> *Updates, price drops, a new item*
> ask for photos :)
>
>1. *SOLD -  Nitto x Crust Shaka handlebar*: 540mm, 26.0 clamp, silver, 
>great condition - $100
>2. *Crust 90 deg high stack fillet-brazed clear coat stem*, 
>discontinued model, 80mm reach, 75mm stack, 1 1/8, 31.8 clamp - $95
>3. *SOLD - Roadrunner Bags Jumbo Jammer*, orange - some grease stains 
>but fabric is in great shape, all straps there, never cut - $150
>
>
>1. *Avocet Racing 1 saddle*, excellent condition, 9.5/10 - $70
>2. *Sugino VX double crankset,* 130 bcd, 170mm, with or w/o rings, 
>great condition - $40
>3. *Sugino GP Triple crankset* 110/74, 175mm, with or w/o rings, 
>really nice - $60?
>
>
>1. *SOLD - Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 90mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed 
>up but hardware is nice - $40
>
>
>1. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 110mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up but 
>hardware is nice - $30
>
>
>1. *Nitto MCR65 black threadless stem*, 100mm length, 35deg, 1 1/8" 
>clamp, 25.4, peeling sticker, one small scratch in the paint, good 
> hardware 
>- $55
>2. *Velo Orange Grand Cru setback seatpost*, scratches from 
>installation - $20
>3. *Thomson Elite setback seatpost*, silver 330mm uncut, 27.2 
>scratches from installation - $45
>4. *Rene Herse Hurricane Ridge EL* 700 x 42mm blackwall knobbies, 
>ridden ~200 mi with tubes - $130 for both
>5. *NEW - Brooks B17 Special* black, copper rails & rivets (the big 
>ones) very good condition, low miles - $100
>
>
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 11:00:10 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Did a bad job editing today - that Crust stem is 1 1/8 with a 31.8 clamp, 
>> non-faceplate singlebolt.
>>
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 9:54:41 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot - forgot some items were alreaday spoken for. Sorry!
>>>
>>>1. *Nitto x Crust Shaka handlebar*: 540mm, 26.0 clamp, silver, great 
>>>condition - $100
>>>2. *Crust 90 deg high stack fillet-brazed clear coat stem*, 
>>>discontinued model, 80mm reach, 75mm stack - $100
>>>3. *Roadrunner Bags Jumbo Jammer*, orange - some grease stains but 
>>>fabric is in great shape, all straps there, never cut - $150
>>>4. *Avocet Racing 1 saddle*, excellent condition, 9.5/10 - $70
>>>5. *Sugino VX double crankset,* 130 bcd, 170mm, with or w/o rings, 
>>>great condition - $40
>>>6. *Sugino GP Triple crankset* 110/74, 175mm, with or w/o rings, 
>>>really nice - $60?
>>>7. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 90mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up but 
>>>hardware is nice - $40
>>>8. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 110mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up 
>>>but hardware is nice - $30
>>>9. *Nitto MCR65 black threadless stem*, 100mm length, 35deg, 1 1/8" 
>>>clamp, 25.4, peeling sticker, one small scratch in the paint, good 
>>> hardware 
>>>- $60
>>>10. *Velo Orange Grand Cru setback seatpost*, very scratched - $25
>>>11. *Thomson Elite setback seatpost*, silver 330mm uncut, 27.2 
>>>scratches - $50
>>>12. *Rene Herse Hurricane Ridge EL* 700 x 42mm blackwall knobbies, 
>>>ridden ~200 mi with tubes - $140 for both
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 9:52:15 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 Some items for sale from Brooklyn, NY (11211).
 Prices do not include shipping.
 Please feel free to make offers.
 Contact off-list.
 Ask for photos.
 Thank you for looking!


1. *Nitto x Crust Shaka handlebar*: 540mm, 26.0 clamp, silver, 
great condition - $100
2. *Crust 90 deg high stack fillet-brazed clear coat stem*, 
discontinued model, 80mm reach, 75mm stack - $100
3. *Roadrunner Bags Jumbo Jammer*, orange - some grease stains but 
fabric is in great shape, all straps there, never cut - $150
4. *Avocet Racing 1 saddle*, excellent condition, 9.5/10 - $70
5. *Sugino VX double crankset,* 130 bcd, 170mm, with or w/o rings, 
great condition - $40
6. *Sugino GP Triple crankset* 110/74, 175mm, with or w/o rings, 
really nice - $60?
7. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 90mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up 
but hardware is nice - $40
8. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 110mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up 
but hardware is nice - $30
9. *Nitto MCR65 black threadless stem*, 100mm length, 35deg, 1 1/8" 
clamp, 25.4, peeling sticker, one small scratch in the paint, good 
 hardware 
- $60
10. *Velo Orange Grand Cru setback seatpost*, very scratched - $25
11. *Thomson Elite setback seatpost*, silver 330mm uncut, 27.2 
scratches - $50
12. *Rene Herse Hurricane Ridge EL* 700 x 42mm blackwall knobbies, 
ridden ~200 mi with tubes - $140 for both

 

[RBW] Re: FS: a few assorted parts - Nitto, Crust, RH...

[Patch T]

*Updates, price drops, a new item*
ask for photos :)

   1. *SOLD -  Nitto x Crust Shaka handlebar*: 540mm, 26.0 clamp, silver, 
   great condition - $100
   2. *Crust 90 deg high stack fillet-brazed clear coat stem*, discontinued 
   model, 80mm reach, 75mm stack, 1 1/8, 31.8 clamp - $95
   3. *SOLD - Roadrunner Bags Jumbo Jammer*, orange - some grease stains 
   but fabric is in great shape, all straps there, never cut - $150
   4. *Avocet Racing 1 saddle*, excellent condition, 9.5/10 - $70
   5. *Sugino VX double crankset,* 130 bcd, 170mm, with or w/o rings, great 
   condition - $40
   6. *Sugino GP Triple crankset* 110/74, 175mm, with or w/o rings, really 
   nice - $60?
   7. *SOLD - Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 90mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up 
   but hardware is nice - $40
   8. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 110mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up but 
   hardware is nice - $30
   9. *Nitto MCR65 black threadless stem*, 100mm length, 35deg, 1 1/8" 
   clamp, 25.4, peeling sticker, one small scratch in the paint, good hardware 
   - $55
   10. *Velo Orange Grand Cru setback seatpost*, scratches from 
   installation - $20
   11. *Thomson Elite setback seatpost*, silver 330mm uncut, 27.2 scratches 
   from installation - $45
   12. *Rene Herse Hurricane Ridge EL* 700 x 42mm blackwall knobbies, 
   ridden ~200 mi with tubes - $130 for both
   13. *NEW - Brooks B17 Special* black, copper rails & rivets (the big 
   ones) very good condition, low miles - $100


On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 11:00:10 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:

> Did a bad job editing today - that Crust stem is 1 1/8 with a 31.8 clamp, 
> non-faceplate singlebolt.
>
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 9:54:41 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Shoot - forgot some items were alreaday spoken for. Sorry!
>>
>>1. *Nitto x Crust Shaka handlebar*: 540mm, 26.0 clamp, silver, great 
>>condition - $100
>>2. *Crust 90 deg high stack fillet-brazed clear coat stem*, 
>>discontinued model, 80mm reach, 75mm stack - $100
>>3. *Roadrunner Bags Jumbo Jammer*, orange - some grease stains but 
>>fabric is in great shape, all straps there, never cut - $150
>>4. *Avocet Racing 1 saddle*, excellent condition, 9.5/10 - $70
>>5. *Sugino VX double crankset,* 130 bcd, 170mm, with or w/o rings, 
>>great condition - $40
>>6. *Sugino GP Triple crankset* 110/74, 175mm, with or w/o rings, 
>>really nice - $60?
>>7. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 90mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up but 
>>hardware is nice - $40
>>8. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 110mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up but 
>>hardware is nice - $30
>>9. *Nitto MCR65 black threadless stem*, 100mm length, 35deg, 1 1/8" 
>>clamp, 25.4, peeling sticker, one small scratch in the paint, good 
>> hardware 
>>- $60
>>10. *Velo Orange Grand Cru setback seatpost*, very scratched - $25
>>11. *Thomson Elite setback seatpost*, silver 330mm uncut, 27.2 
>>scratches - $50
>>12. *Rene Herse Hurricane Ridge EL* 700 x 42mm blackwall knobbies, 
>>ridden ~200 mi with tubes - $140 for both
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 9:52:15 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Some items for sale from Brooklyn, NY (11211).
>>> Prices do not include shipping.
>>> Please feel free to make offers.
>>> Contact off-list.
>>> Ask for photos.
>>> Thank you for looking!
>>>
>>>
>>>1. *Nitto x Crust Shaka handlebar*: 540mm, 26.0 clamp, silver, great 
>>>condition - $100
>>>2. *Crust 90 deg high stack fillet-brazed clear coat stem*, 
>>>discontinued model, 80mm reach, 75mm stack - $100
>>>3. *Roadrunner Bags Jumbo Jammer*, orange - some grease stains but 
>>>fabric is in great shape, all straps there, never cut - $150
>>>4. *Avocet Racing 1 saddle*, excellent condition, 9.5/10 - $70
>>>5. *Sugino VX double crankset,* 130 bcd, 170mm, with or w/o rings, 
>>>great condition - $40
>>>6. *Sugino GP Triple crankset* 110/74, 175mm, with or w/o rings, 
>>>really nice - $60?
>>>7. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 90mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up but 
>>>hardware is nice - $40
>>>8. *Nitto Technomic long/tall stem* 110mm, 25.4 clamp, scuffed up 
>>>but hardware is nice - $30
>>>9. *Nitto MCR65 black threadless stem*, 100mm length, 35deg, 1 1/8" 
>>>clamp, 25.4, peeling sticker, one small scratch in the paint, good 
>>> hardware 
>>>- $60
>>>10. *Velo Orange Grand Cru setback seatpost*, very scratched - $25
>>>11. *Thomson Elite setback seatpost*, silver 330mm uncut, 27.2 
>>>scratches - $50
>>>12. *Rene Herse Hurricane Ridge EL* 700 x 42mm blackwall knobbies, 
>>>ridden ~200 mi with tubes - $140 for both
>>>
>>> Open to partial/complete trades; looking for:
>>>
>>>- Fabio's Chest, small
>>>- Brooks titanium saddle
>>>- Paul Minimotos
>>>- silver 27.0 seatpost
>>>- 1" threaded caliper brake fork with ~200mm steertube and clearance 
>>>for 700 x 33mm tires.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Favorite 26" tires

[Johnny Alien]

I think the Panaracer tires are really underrated and overlooked. There 
seemed to be a consensus that the Parimoto 650B tires were prone to flats 
but I have not experienced that. I rode a set of them and Rene Herse tires 
back to back and honestly while I think the RH tires are great they are not 
double the price nice. I have found the same to be true with the Gravel 
King series and between the different variants all sizes are covered. So I 
agree with the other Johnny above me. Look around and there are a lot of 
good deals out the for the GK tires

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 9:02:40 AM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Been very pleased with the Panaracer Gavel King SK I bought a while ago. 
> Been on a couple of builds. I currently have them on
> a fixed wheel MTB I built in the summer. They were a bit scary in mud when 
> riding a geared bike, but they are much better on the fixie. 
>
> I also liked the Maxxis DTH as a reasonably priced skinwall commuter tyre. 
> 2,3" is a bit wide for an old MTB frame - can't get fenders over there. 
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
> On Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 06:36:26 UTC+1 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> Strong second for the Continental Contact Speed. Perfect combo of speed, 
>> comfort, and durability. They're worth double what they sell for. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:38:09 PM UTC-6 Ken Mattina wrote:
>>
>>> I really like the Continental Contact Speed. They're a little hard to 
>>> find but available on ebay and amazon.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 5:19 PM Lynn Haas  wrote:
>>>
 I moved to Iowa this year, and am experiencing my first Iowa winter. I 
 never expected to spend this much time on a trainer. I even signed up for 
 Zwift. Why is there a bike path inside a volcano?

 Anyway, my Panaracer Paselas have a weird spot where the casing joins 
 that goes thunk-thunk-thunk on the rollers. It's driving me nuts. I don't 
 want to put a trainer tire on the bike. I want to believe that I'm going 
 to 
 go ride outside again sometime before the end of time.

 What are the favored 26 inch road-ish tire favorites these days? I have 
 had and disliked Schwalbes. My last set of Marathon Supremes picked up an 
 ungodly array of laceration-inducing, afternoon-ruining, sharp objects. I 
 was quite pleased with the Panaracers until I started riding inside. My 
 downstairs neighbors are probably unhappy with the thunk-thunk-thunk, too. 
 It definitely scares the cat. I'm on an MUSA Atlantis and could go up to 
 about 40mm with my fender setup. Ideas?

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

[Sofie C]

On my platypus (soon to be on my Clem), I've tried the B17 regular, B17 
special, B67s, and have settled on the speedy but comfier to me Gilles 
Berthoud Marie Blanque. 

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> After having tried quite a number of different saddles over the years, my 
> wife has the Selle Italia Lady Gel flow saddle (in the 160mm wide L size) 
> on all her bikes: https://www.selleitalia.com/en/saddles/lady-gel-flow-s/.
>
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Favorite 26" tires

[Den John]

Been very pleased with the Panaracer Gavel King SK I bought a while ago. 
Been on a couple of builds. I currently have them on
a fixed wheel MTB I built in the summer. They were a bit scary in mud when 
riding a geared bike, but they are much better on the fixie. 

I also liked the Maxxis DTH as a reasonably priced skinwall commuter tyre. 
2,3" is a bit wide for an old MTB frame - can't get fenders over there. 

Cheers,
Johnny

On Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 06:36:26 UTC+1 exliontamer wrote:

> Strong second for the Continental Contact Speed. Perfect combo of speed, 
> comfort, and durability. They're worth double what they sell for. 
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:38:09 PM UTC-6 Ken Mattina wrote:
>
>> I really like the Continental Contact Speed. They're a little hard to 
>> find but available on ebay and amazon.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 5:19 PM Lynn Haas  wrote:
>>
>>> I moved to Iowa this year, and am experiencing my first Iowa winter. I 
>>> never expected to spend this much time on a trainer. I even signed up for 
>>> Zwift. Why is there a bike path inside a volcano?
>>>
>>> Anyway, my Panaracer Paselas have a weird spot where the casing joins 
>>> that goes thunk-thunk-thunk on the rollers. It's driving me nuts. I don't 
>>> want to put a trainer tire on the bike. I want to believe that I'm going to 
>>> go ride outside again sometime before the end of time.
>>>
>>> What are the favored 26 inch road-ish tire favorites these days? I have 
>>> had and disliked Schwalbes. My last set of Marathon Supremes picked up an 
>>> ungodly array of laceration-inducing, afternoon-ruining, sharp objects. I 
>>> was quite pleased with the Panaracers until I started riding inside. My 
>>> downstairs neighbors are probably unhappy with the thunk-thunk-thunk, too. 
>>> It definitely scares the cat. I'm on an MUSA Atlantis and could go up to 
>>> about 40mm with my fender setup. Ideas?
>>>
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>> Where did my hormones go?
>> Where did my energy go?
>> Where did my go go?
>> Where did the pleasure go?
>> Where did my hair go?
>>
>> -- Ray Davies
>>
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