Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Brian McDermott]

That’s odd. I didn’t notice anything off with mine, but now I’m curious and
will have to check. I think I disagree on them being not much wider than
Albas though.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 13:13 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not symmetrical.
> Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened grip section
> for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the bars, and
> neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the roughened
> section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way too far
> over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. These bars
> are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but when I
> pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar clamp
> sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much stem
> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho
> bars, and saw something was really off.
>
>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just
> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp
>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>>
>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel
>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really
>>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat
>>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Eric,
I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial
 fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto
 Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still
 puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.

 For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the
 Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.

 So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think
 I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.


 Hi Johnny,
Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why?
 Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some
 120-130mm stems for these bars.

 I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely
 off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions
 about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his
 Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person
 interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "

 But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars
 Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram
 photos, and they created a monster.

 John
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits).
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check
> 'em here
> 
> .
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill,
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting
>>> it together. A 

[RBW] Bike Tire Liner Strips

[george schick]

AKA, flat protector strips.  Has anyone had any experience with these, 
especially in highly flat-prone areas (read that goat heads) as to how well 
they work?  The person I'm working with does not live in goat head 
territory, but there's always a slight risk of broken glass shards, small 
indigenous tree and shrub thorns, etc.  I'm trying to put her mind at ease 
that if she has these strips installed between the tire casing and inner 
tube she can pretty much be at ease about having a flat someplace in the 
middle of nowhere.  BTW,  this is a mountain bike size tire.


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[RBW] WTB: Single or Set of Shimano 10spd Bar End Shifters

[Kieran J]

Hi all,

Looking for mainly a right/rear Shimano 10spd bar end shifter (SL-BS78). 
Would also consider a set L+R if any are out there. 

Let me know if you have a single/set to sell. 

Thanks!
Kieran
Victoria, BC

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Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

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On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:44 PM, Sofie C  wrote:

> Hi Joel, ok I'm looking at getting some odds and ends from blue lug, and 
> shipping is the same for me if I were to add your Koma light - it would be 
> $40. If you don't mind chipping in a little (not sure what's fair?) and you 
> don't mind the wait, I can add it to my order and ship it to you at for 
> whatever that costs (I'm in Massachusetts). Let me know - I'd like to place 
> my order this week!
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:10:09 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Soviet, ir was over $30 to ship a $30 light so it would depend on the 
>> shipping for a larger order and if it then makes sense. Logistics ok for me.
>>
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>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>
>>> I actually thought of posting something similar -- there are a lot of small 
>>> things I'm interested in getting from Blue Lug, but I find myself adding 
>>> more to my cart than what I need to justify the shipping cost I would 
>>> be interested in going in on a group order, but with two young kids and a 
>>> ft job I'm not in a position to handle the logistics of organizing one...
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to me 
 and if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it

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 On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:

> Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They 
> are real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma 
> lights stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
> best
> Justin
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more 
>> for shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are 
>> others in this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on 
>> shipping.
>>
>> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a 
>> front light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on 
>> flash mode. My Koma lights seem to last longer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sophie, thanks.  I am in MA as well.  I can definitely chip in for the 
shipping above the extra it would cost you.  Will send a PM with my info. 

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:44:06 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Joel, ok I'm looking at getting some odds and ends from blue lug, and 
> shipping is the same for me if I were to add your Koma light - it would be 
> $40. If you don't mind chipping in a little (not sure what's fair?) and you 
> don't mind the wait, I can add it to my order and ship it to you at for 
> whatever that costs  (I'm in Massachusetts). Let me know - I'd like to 
> place my order this week!
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:10:09 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Soviet, ir was over $30 to ship a $30 light so it would depend on the 
>> shipping for a larger order and if it then makes sense.  Logistics ok for 
>> me.  
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>
>> I actually thought of posting something similar -- there are a lot of 
>> small things I'm interested in getting from Blue Lug, but I find myself 
>> adding more to my cart than what I need to justify the shipping cost I 
>> would be interested in going in on a group order, but with two young kids 
>> and a ft job I'm not in a position to handle the logistics of organizing 
>> one...
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to 
>>> me and if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They 
>>> are real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma 
>>> lights stocked. 
>>> https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
>>> best
>>> Justin
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more 
 for shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others 
 in this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping. 

 I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a 
 front light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash 
 mode. My Koma lights seem to last longer. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Quoc Pham Fixed Shoes

[Minh]

lol, ofc someone offers these after i ordered a NOS pair from japan!   glad 
these are not brown!  for sizing, i wear a US11 and my 45s are a little 
narrow, so i think these would work for an 11, especially if you need it 
wider.   these are really nice shoes.  

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:28:54 PM UTC-5 robert.har...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Howdy folks --
>
> Downsizing everything and selling a brand new (a bit dusty) pair of Quoc 
> Pham fixed. You can't really buy them anymore for some reason, but they are 
> very, very nice. Just downsizing. These are flats, so you *cannot add 
> cleats to these*. They are super light, reflective on the back and would 
> legit work for you as an everyday shoe (esp. if you don't have 
> winter...cough cough SoCal people). 
>
> Reviews: 
>
>- https://road.cc/content/review/170336-quoc-pham-new-fixed-shoes
>- 
>
> https://www.sportive.com/cycling-reviews/510837/quoc-pham-fixed-shoes-review
>
> Size: 46 (aka US 12, fit me as I wear a 11.5, would fit 11s as well with 
> socks). 
> Cost: 120 plus shipping (they were 165 new and these have never been 
> worn). 
>
> Thanks y'all --
>
> Robert in DC
>
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-15 at 9.22.58 PM.png]
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

Thanks, all.  Yes, the Hunqapillar is super cool.  The Atlantis was always 
the touchstone Riv for me, but I really love this wooly mammoth!

DD - yes to aesthetics on the front derailleur, but also worried about 
performance with it so far from the chainrings.  I guess I should give it a 
try and see how it actually works though!

James

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:16:34 PM UTC-5 Dee Dee wrote:

> Hey James, nice looking Hunq!
>
> Re: your front derailleur, is it just an aesthetic issue w/ running the FD 
> high on the seat tube? Or is running it high negatively affecting your 
> shifting?
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 6:09 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing, James! Sick Hunq ya got there B) 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:28 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the Jones bars/Hunqapillar combo! Bosco variants had me sitting 
>>> too upright, and the non-bullmoose version was too flexy under load.
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Chris L  wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats on the new bike!  Hunqapillars are a rare model.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love the Jones bar on my Hunqapillar.  
>>>
>>> I've never been able to get comfortable on drops, but I've found a 
>>> similar position on the Jones bar, where the red circle is drawn.  I rest 
>>> my heel on the juncture so that my thumbs hook just inside the loop.  It 
>>> puts me in a nice (relatively speaking, for me) aerodynamic position in 
>>> which I can just cruise.  
>>>
>>> Placing my hands an inch or so behind the controls is very similar to a 
>>> typical mountain bike handlebar.
>>>
>>> At the very back of the grips is used periodically when I want to sit up 
>>> and look around, or more often, to recover a little.  
>>>
>>> I have the 2.5" rise version with 710mm width.  
>>>
>>> [image: 20190324_075108 (2).jpg]
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:38:34 AM UTC-6 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi, all.  Long time lurker, only recent poster.  I posted a photo in 
 the thread about Ron's Ortho Bars, but thought I should share more 
 generally.  After following Rivendell and buying parts here and there for 
 20 years or so, here's my Hunqapillar 62cm, bought from the wonderful 
 folks 
 at Mack's Bike and Goods, and now winding its way through the iterative, 
 evolutionary process of getting it to what I want it to be.

 It's replacing the Surly Long Haul Trucker that I've had since 2005, 
 but which wasn't cutting it anymore - couldn't get as relaxed a position 
 as 
 I wanted and couldn't fit as big a tire as I wanted.  I had been using 
 that 
 bike not for its loaded touring intention, but for mixed 
 pavement/gravel/light trail rides, like the last few years of the Nutmeg 
 Noreaster.  I restored a Motobecane Grand Record last year that I can use 
 for my road bike, so the move to the Hunqapillar lets me have a 
 do-everything bike that's a little less roadish. 

 The Hunqapillar came around at exactly the right time.  I've built it 
 up with mostly parts from the bin.  A couple of things that I'm working 
 through (and open to any suggestions on!):

 (1) The front derailleur.  I'm using a triple as a double with a bash 
 guard replacing the outer ring, like I've done on other bikes.  I'm using 
 an old Deore XT crank, but on a 113mm bottom bracket spindle that's way 
 too 
 short for it.  I have a 118 handy that I could easily swap in, but the 
 chainline for the "middle" ring seems too perfect to want to move it out.  
 It accommodates the 24/36t rings I want to use just fine.  EXCEPT - a 
 vintage derailleur has to be a mile high on the seat tube to not be 
 hitting 
 the chainstay, and a modern mountain derailleur solves that issue, but 
 won't come in close enough to the seat tube to shift to the small ring.  
 SIGH.  I spent a bunch of time filing down a direct mount adapter, but 
 still can't get close enough.  I may keep going that route, or might do 
 the 
 inverse of the derailleur mod laid out here for quad chainring use and 
 shorten a derailleur cage - 
 http://abundantadventures.com/mtfaq/frontderail/fr.derail.mods.html

 (2) Handlebars.  I jumped on the Ron's Ortho bar sale and was lucky 
 enough to get one.  The problem is that it sweeps back a little too far 
 for 
 me, even with a 120mm stem.  I thought about looking for a 130, but I 
 think 
 I need a bar with a better forward position.  The Ortho bar has a little 
 too much rise for the forward position to work for me, or for me to mount 
 it upside down.  It also can be a bit of a wheelie machine for me when 
 going up a steep hill or steep bit of trail.  But now what? A friend has 
 an 
 Albatross I may borrow to test in the flipped position, or I may look at 
 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Hi, JP.  Yep - my Hunq has a triple crankset with the outer ring replaced 
by a guard, so chain is on the "middle" ring in front.  I'm not great at 
bike photos, although tried a little harder than usual for my first Riv 
photos - but I had also just finished the exhausting climb up to the top of 
the Reservation, so might not have been firing on all cylinders and just 
took the shots in the gear I was in ;)

James

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:38:51 PM UTC-5 MoVelo wrote:

> I'm curious, and I know I have seen this in numerous bike photos before, 
> but why is the chain so severely cross chained. That being the big cassette 
> cog in the back and big ring in the front? Is there a convention for 
> photographing bikes that I am unaware of, or do most folks cross-chain like 
> this and I am missing out on the pleasure by lack of education?
> Now I could be totally misunderstanding the photo, but with my eyes and 
> the resolution of the digital photo is looks as tho the outside (ie largest 
> ring) is in fact a guard and not a toothed chainring. Am I wrong and the 
> chain is in fact on the middle chainring? 
> I am not trying to be critical, just trying to understand why I seem to 
> see this setup in so many seemingly staged photos. Do most folks ride their 
> bikes in this fashion?
> Just curious. 
>
> JP
>
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @James: Have you considered trimming the bars a little shorter? Not the 
>> craziest thing in the world, people modify bars like this all the time. 
>>
>> You might be able to find a pipe cutter for under $20 at your local 
>> hardware store. Would be good to practice on a scrap piece of pipe first! 
>> Or use a hacksaw. File the ends either way. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-15 at 7.11.37 PM.png]
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
 stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)

 I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
 Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
 I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I 
 really love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural 
 than 
 flat mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...

 Cheers,
 John


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> Eric, 
>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A 
> Nitto 
> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube 
> still 
> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>
> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
> Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>
> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
> I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>
>
> Hi Johnny,  
>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
>
> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
> off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with 
> questions 
> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
> interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>
> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
> Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
> photos, and they created a monster.
>
> John
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide 

[RBW] FS: Swift Industries, Topo, Nitto, Outershell, Kitsbow

[Michael Ullmer]

Cross-post from the i-bob list:

A few more items kicking around the parts bin:

1) Nitto F-15 Handlebar Bag Support - SOLD
--In great condition, no bag though

2) Topo Designs Quick Pack - $35 shipped
--Brand new, all black colorway

3) Swift Industries Dark Green Vireo Hip Pack (2nd) - $65 shipped
--Bought this at the Swift Human Error Sale a couple weeks ago, my partner 
didn't want it. Selling for what I bought it for. The "error" is that the 
straps on the outside are slightly off-center

4) Outershell Rolltop Saddle Bag - $25 shipped
--Camo colorway. Some grease stains, but functionally just great.

5) Kitsbow Iconic Arm Warmer, Medium, Huntsman Red - $35 shipped
--Brand new, still in packing. Half is the red flannel (huntsman red), 
other half is black. I can take these out of the packaging if buyer is 
intersted in more detailed pics.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/vhcYy7tFuUis8trz6

PM off-list

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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[maxcr]

Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!: 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I am so shocked that's still available.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:
>
>> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously 
>> tempted to inquire about that Glorius. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about Lyle's 
>>> Rambouillet quite a lot. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>>
 Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.

 Mike SLO CA

 On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
> Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn find!”I’ve 
> been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene Herse covered in 
> cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather than die waiting I 
> decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of international 
> eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling and head scratching 
> transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my French barn 
> find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find myself 
> needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has taken 
> me 
> across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a daily 
> driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the juicy 
> detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my profile.*
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 
> 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 
> 8.32.28 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.45 AM.png]
>
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[RBW] Re: Riv backpack?

[J Schwartz]

FYI 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Bicycle-Works-Sackville-StickPack-StickSack-Nylon-Backpack-/165338158893?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 Zach Hale wrote:

> Unfortunately this post didn't get approved quickly enough because it sold 
> in the 3 days since I tried to post it here – sorry all! Thanks for all the 
> interest. I wish I could sell bags to all y'all.
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-8 Zach Hale wrote:
>
>> I've got a stick pack for sale if anyone's interested. $80 + ship
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CY-S0RRJD-G/?utm_medium=copy_link
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 3:08:55 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Some more info for you:
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-16 at 6.08.08 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 4:57:54 PM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:
>>>
 Not take anything away from the backpack being offered - but Rivendell 
 Mountain Works is in business again:

 https://www.rivendellmountainworks.com/

 Thanks,


 Corwin

 On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 12:46:41 PM UTC-8 Norman R wrote:

> RMW backpack (favorably remarked upon by Grant, I recall). Barely 
> used, no blemishes. If this is what you meant, let me know.
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 3:09:19 PM UTC-5 Wally Estrella wrote:
>
>> sorry, I can't recall the name of the RBW backpacks from many moons 
>> ago.
>> Anyone have one in decent condition they'd part with?  I'd trade a 
>> new/unworn short brimmed orange RBW hat and $ for one it. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/aug-20-no-26-lugs-new-bikes-used-bikes
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wally in the land of only one area code.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[MoVelo]

I'm curious, and I know I have seen this in numerous bike photos before, 
but why is the chain so severely cross chained. That being the big cassette 
cog in the back and big ring in the front? Is there a convention for 
photographing bikes that I am unaware of, or do most folks cross-chain like 
this and I am missing out on the pleasure by lack of education?
Now I could be totally misunderstanding the photo, but with my eyes and the 
resolution of the digital photo is looks as tho the outside (ie largest 
ring) is in fact a guard and not a toothed chainring. Am I wrong and the 
chain is in fact on the middle chainring? 
I am not trying to be critical, just trying to understand why I seem to see 
this setup in so many seemingly staged photos. Do most folks ride their 
bikes in this fashion?
Just curious. 

JP

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> @James: Have you considered trimming the bars a little shorter? Not the 
> craziest thing in the world, people modify bars like this all the time. 
>
> You might be able to find a pipe cutter for under $20 at your local 
> hardware store. Would be good to practice on a scrap piece of pipe first! 
> Or use a hacksaw. File the ends either way. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-15 at 7.11.37 PM.png]
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>>
>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
>>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
>>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Eric, 
I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
 fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto 
 Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still 
 puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.

 For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
 Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.

 So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
 I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.


 Hi Johnny,  
Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
 Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
 120-130mm stems for these bars. 

 I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
 off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
 about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
 Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
 interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "

 But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
 Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
 photos, and they created a monster.

 John
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't 
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, 

[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Silver rear rack

[scott minor]

rack is sold.  

many thanks!  
On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:25:53 AM UTC-5 scott minor wrote:

> I got this last month along with some bags and have decided to stick w my 
> Nitto medium campee rack.  So I am happy to pass this along to anyone who 
> might be looking.  Never mounted, comes with all hardware as new from Riv. 
>  They are out of stock currently at Riv so will pass this along for very 
> slight discount of $165 shipped in the lower 48.  Located in VA 24210.   
> -Scott 
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> [image: image1.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[DD]

Hey James, nice looking Hunq!

Re: your front derailleur, is it just an aesthetic issue w/ running the FD
high on the seat tube? Or is running it high negatively affecting your
shifting?

-Danny


On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 6:09 PM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing, James! Sick Hunq ya got there B)
>
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:28 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> +1 on the Jones bars/Hunqapillar combo! Bosco variants had me sitting too
>> upright, and the non-bullmoose version was too flexy under load.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Chris L  wrote:
>>
>> Congrats on the new bike!  Hunqapillars are a rare model.
>>
>>
>> I love the Jones bar on my Hunqapillar.
>>
>> I've never been able to get comfortable on drops, but I've found a
>> similar position on the Jones bar, where the red circle is drawn.  I rest
>> my heel on the juncture so that my thumbs hook just inside the loop.  It
>> puts me in a nice (relatively speaking, for me) aerodynamic position in
>> which I can just cruise.
>>
>> Placing my hands an inch or so behind the controls is very similar to a
>> typical mountain bike handlebar.
>>
>> At the very back of the grips is used periodically when I want to sit up
>> and look around, or more often, to recover a little.
>>
>> I have the 2.5" rise version with 710mm width.
>>
>> [image: 20190324_075108 (2).jpg]
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:38:34 AM UTC-6 mcgr...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all.  Long time lurker, only recent poster.  I posted a photo in the
>>> thread about Ron's Ortho Bars, but thought I should share more generally.
>>> After following Rivendell and buying parts here and there for 20 years or
>>> so, here's my Hunqapillar 62cm, bought from the wonderful folks at Mack's
>>> Bike and Goods, and now winding its way through the iterative, evolutionary
>>> process of getting it to what I want it to be.
>>>
>>> It's replacing the Surly Long Haul Trucker that I've had since 2005, but
>>> which wasn't cutting it anymore - couldn't get as relaxed a position as I
>>> wanted and couldn't fit as big a tire as I wanted.  I had been using that
>>> bike not for its loaded touring intention, but for mixed
>>> pavement/gravel/light trail rides, like the last few years of the Nutmeg
>>> Noreaster.  I restored a Motobecane Grand Record last year that I can use
>>> for my road bike, so the move to the Hunqapillar lets me have a
>>> do-everything bike that's a little less roadish.
>>>
>>> The Hunqapillar came around at exactly the right time.  I've built it up
>>> with mostly parts from the bin.  A couple of things that I'm working
>>> through (and open to any suggestions on!):
>>>
>>> (1) The front derailleur.  I'm using a triple as a double with a bash
>>> guard replacing the outer ring, like I've done on other bikes.  I'm using
>>> an old Deore XT crank, but on a 113mm bottom bracket spindle that's way too
>>> short for it.  I have a 118 handy that I could easily swap in, but the
>>> chainline for the "middle" ring seems too perfect to want to move it out.
>>> It accommodates the 24/36t rings I want to use just fine.  EXCEPT - a
>>> vintage derailleur has to be a mile high on the seat tube to not be hitting
>>> the chainstay, and a modern mountain derailleur solves that issue, but
>>> won't come in close enough to the seat tube to shift to the small ring.
>>> SIGH.  I spent a bunch of time filing down a direct mount adapter, but
>>> still can't get close enough.  I may keep going that route, or might do the
>>> inverse of the derailleur mod laid out here for quad chainring use and
>>> shorten a derailleur cage -
>>> http://abundantadventures.com/mtfaq/frontderail/fr.derail.mods.html
>>>
>>> (2) Handlebars.  I jumped on the Ron's Ortho bar sale and was lucky
>>> enough to get one.  The problem is that it sweeps back a little too far for
>>> me, even with a 120mm stem.  I thought about looking for a 130, but I think
>>> I need a bar with a better forward position.  The Ortho bar has a little
>>> too much rise for the forward position to work for me, or for me to mount
>>> it upside down.  It also can be a bit of a wheelie machine for me when
>>> going up a steep hill or steep bit of trail.  But now what? A friend has an
>>> Albatross I may borrow to test in the flipped position, or I may look at
>>> the Choco or Choco-Moose (which looks like it could be really cool, but
>>> hard to spend all that $$$ without knowing!).  The Billie bar could be
>>> promising, but seems to be sold out everywhere.  I used an Albastache on my
>>> Surly for a while and like the variation in positions, but my wrists don't
>>> like the default brake set up.  I did run it with inverse levers for a bit,
>>> but I now really want to stick with a trigger shifter.
>>>
>>> tl;dr - here are some photos I took of
>>> the-bike-that-I'm-very-happy-with-but-still-tweaking here in the lovely
>>> South Mountain Reservation on a warm lunchtime 

Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

[Sofie C]

Hi Joel, ok I'm looking at getting some odds and ends from blue lug, and 
shipping is the same for me if I were to add your Koma light - it would be 
$40. If you don't mind chipping in a little (not sure what's fair?) and you 
don't mind the wait, I can add it to my order and ship it to you at for 
whatever that costs  (I'm in Massachusetts). Let me know - I'd like to 
place my order this week!

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:10:09 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Soviet, ir was over $30 to ship a $30 light so it would depend on the 
> shipping for a larger order and if it then makes sense.  Logistics ok for 
> me.  
>
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Sofie C  wrote:
>
> I actually thought of posting something similar -- there are a lot of 
> small things I'm interested in getting from Blue Lug, but I find myself 
> adding more to my cart than what I need to justify the shipping cost I 
> would be interested in going in on a group order, but with two young kids 
> and a ft job I'm not in a position to handle the logistics of organizing 
> one...
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to me 
>> and if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:
>>
>> Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They 
>> are real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma 
>> lights stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
>> best
>> Justin
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more 
>>> for shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others 
>>> in this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping. 
>>>
>>> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a 
>>> front light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash 
>>> mode. My Koma lights seem to last longer. 
>>>
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[RBW] FS: 55cm Hillborne BUMP

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Thanks Frank! And all for the advice.
Still available $2500 without the pedals, saddle and back rack. Still a
helluva bike and a good deal.

Ahmed in San Mateo

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:36 AM Frank Burkybile 
wrote:

> I have been there before Ahmed and it can be frustrating! I have sold
> several bikes online over the years and some of the best seem to get no
> response, need to get posted several times before getting any interest,
> then only to get tire kickers who only want to look. Other times, one post
> will get a lot of same-day interest. Fortunate timing (luck?) seems to be
> the key. Perhaps when folks start to get a little spring fever in a few
> weeks, you will find someone who is a match.
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 12:45:56 PM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. Thank
>> you!
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM steve  wrote:
>>
>>> What stem shifters are on the Sam?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?

 A

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brady Smith  wrote:

> Hi Ahmed,
>
> Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the rolling
> chassis?
>
> Brady in SLC
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 8:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that.
>>
>> Best
>> A
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:16 AM Bill Lindsay 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.
>>>
>>> I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you sold
>>> the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you don't like 
>>> the
>>> saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could also 
>>> lower
>>> the price of the remaining build.  You could do something similar with 
>>> the
>>> front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and currently sold 
>>> out
>>> at Riv.
>>>
>>> I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to buy a
>>> Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and paying full
>>> retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could sell it
>>> separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and saddle.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Let's try this again
 For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity
 Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto 
 seatpost
 and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with 
 stem
 shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on 
 it.
 Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
 prefer
 local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on 
 Craigslist.

 thanks
 Ahmed in San Mateo, CA

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>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for sharing, James! Sick Hunq ya got there B) 

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:28 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:

> +1 on the Jones bars/Hunqapillar combo! Bosco variants had me sitting too 
> upright, and the non-bullmoose version was too flexy under load.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Feb 15, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Chris L  wrote:
>
> Congrats on the new bike!  Hunqapillars are a rare model.
>
>
> I love the Jones bar on my Hunqapillar.  
>
> I've never been able to get comfortable on drops, but I've found a similar 
> position on the Jones bar, where the red circle is drawn.  I rest my heel 
> on the juncture so that my thumbs hook just inside the loop.  It puts me in 
> a nice (relatively speaking, for me) aerodynamic position in which I can 
> just cruise.  
>
> Placing my hands an inch or so behind the controls is very similar to a 
> typical mountain bike handlebar.
>
> At the very back of the grips is used periodically when I want to sit up 
> and look around, or more often, to recover a little.  
>
> I have the 2.5" rise version with 710mm width.  
>
> [image: 20190324_075108 (2).jpg]
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:38:34 AM UTC-6 mcgr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, all.  Long time lurker, only recent poster.  I posted a photo in the 
>> thread about Ron's Ortho Bars, but thought I should share more generally.  
>> After following Rivendell and buying parts here and there for 20 years or 
>> so, here's my Hunqapillar 62cm, bought from the wonderful folks at Mack's 
>> Bike and Goods, and now winding its way through the iterative, evolutionary 
>> process of getting it to what I want it to be.
>>
>> It's replacing the Surly Long Haul Trucker that I've had since 2005, but 
>> which wasn't cutting it anymore - couldn't get as relaxed a position as I 
>> wanted and couldn't fit as big a tire as I wanted.  I had been using that 
>> bike not for its loaded touring intention, but for mixed 
>> pavement/gravel/light trail rides, like the last few years of the Nutmeg 
>> Noreaster.  I restored a Motobecane Grand Record last year that I can use 
>> for my road bike, so the move to the Hunqapillar lets me have a 
>> do-everything bike that's a little less roadish. 
>>
>> The Hunqapillar came around at exactly the right time.  I've built it up 
>> with mostly parts from the bin.  A couple of things that I'm working 
>> through (and open to any suggestions on!):
>>
>> (1) The front derailleur.  I'm using a triple as a double with a bash 
>> guard replacing the outer ring, like I've done on other bikes.  I'm using 
>> an old Deore XT crank, but on a 113mm bottom bracket spindle that's way too 
>> short for it.  I have a 118 handy that I could easily swap in, but the 
>> chainline for the "middle" ring seems too perfect to want to move it out.  
>> It accommodates the 24/36t rings I want to use just fine.  EXCEPT - a 
>> vintage derailleur has to be a mile high on the seat tube to not be hitting 
>> the chainstay, and a modern mountain derailleur solves that issue, but 
>> won't come in close enough to the seat tube to shift to the small ring.  
>> SIGH.  I spent a bunch of time filing down a direct mount adapter, but 
>> still can't get close enough.  I may keep going that route, or might do the 
>> inverse of the derailleur mod laid out here for quad chainring use and 
>> shorten a derailleur cage - 
>> http://abundantadventures.com/mtfaq/frontderail/fr.derail.mods.html
>>
>> (2) Handlebars.  I jumped on the Ron's Ortho bar sale and was lucky 
>> enough to get one.  The problem is that it sweeps back a little too far for 
>> me, even with a 120mm stem.  I thought about looking for a 130, but I think 
>> I need a bar with a better forward position.  The Ortho bar has a little 
>> too much rise for the forward position to work for me, or for me to mount 
>> it upside down.  It also can be a bit of a wheelie machine for me when 
>> going up a steep hill or steep bit of trail.  But now what? A friend has an 
>> Albatross I may borrow to test in the flipped position, or I may look at 
>> the Choco or Choco-Moose (which looks like it could be really cool, but 
>> hard to spend all that $$$ without knowing!).  The Billie bar could be 
>> promising, but seems to be sold out everywhere.  I used an Albastache on my 
>> Surly for a while and like the variation in positions, but my wrists don't 
>> like the default brake set up.  I did run it with inverse levers for a bit, 
>> but I now really want to stick with a trigger shifter.
>>
>> tl;dr - here are some photos I took of 
>> the-bike-that-I'm-very-happy-with-but-still-tweaking here in the lovely 
>> South Mountain Reservation on a warm lunchtime ride last week
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-14 162511.png]
>>
>> James
>> South Orange, NJ
>>
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

That is a sick Nishiki, love the saddle, pedals and thumb shifters *and *those 
massive 80s brake levers!

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:12:55 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

>I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not symmetrical. 
> Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened grip section 
> for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the bars, and 
> neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the roughened 
> section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way too far 
> over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. These bars 
> are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but when I 
> pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar clamp 
> sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much stem 
> extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
> bars, and saw something was really off.
>
>These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
> stick with my albatross cockpit for now.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>>
>>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
>>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
>>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Eric, 
I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
 fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto 
 Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still 
 puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.

 For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
 Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.

 So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
 I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.


 Hi Johnny,  
Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
 Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
 120-130mm stems for these bars. 

 I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
 off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
 about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
 Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
 interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "

 But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
 Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
 photos, and they created a monster.

 John
 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't 
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 

[RBW] Re: FS: Red Shift Sports SHOCKSTOP SUSPENSION STEM 100mm, +30 degrees

[eddietheflay]

if interested let me know at eddie dot flayer at att dot net. thx

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:57:34 AM UTC-8 eddietheflay wrote:

> Take some of the buzz and bumps out of your hands.
>
> Slightly used, no scratches, comes with full retail packaging, and extra 
> elastomers.
>
> $169 plus shipping retail.
>
> This one is $140 net to me will have be shipped to you.
>
> Like this: https://redshiftsports.com/products/...uspension-stem 
> 
>

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[RBW] FS: Red Shift Sports SHOCKSTOP SUSPENSION STEM 100mm, +30 degrees

[eddietheflay]

Take some of the buzz and bumps out of your hands.

Slightly used, no scratches, comes with full retail packaging, and extra 
elastomers.

$169 plus shipping retail.

This one is $140 net to me will have be shipped to you.

Like this: https://redshiftsports.com/products/...uspension-stem 


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[RBW] Rivendell video re fender installation

[Jim S.]

What a great video Riv made, back in 2011.

I have now installed SKS fenders probably 10 times. Every single time, I 
watch this video. Maybe not the whole way through. But there's always some 
little question I have, and I scroll to it in the video. Am I the only one 
who looks at this multiple times?  

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Re: [RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury (fancy!) frameset, never built, CL outing

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

JJ, lovely build. I was interested in that frame but the price had me shy away. 
The original owner lives about 20 minutes from me. My recollection is that he 
sold it to a student at Yale. I should have negotiated, beautiful bike. If you 
decide to part with it please let me know.

I hope your significant other gets great use from it.

Joel

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On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:08 PM, J J  wrote:

> Thanks for the tip, David. Let's see if it works here. Thanks for posting the 
> pic of your wife's beautiful bike again, mgstf5144. You should know that your 
> pic was part of the inspiration for buying the Wilbury.
>
> Joel, it's definitely that same bike, though it's not clear whether it was 
> flipped. The fellow did drive the bike in from CT to East Village. He was 
> really as nice as can be, and the negotiation was amicable and fair. He 
> showed me pics of his other Rivendells that he built up himself, including a 
> really special and beautiful Atlantis.
>
> I'd had my eyes on the Wilbury for more than a year, I think. It was relisted 
> every couple of months. The reticence about buying it was the size. My 
> partner is 5'1" and we were concerned about it being slightly too large for 
> her. We finally bought it on faith. I figured that if it did not work for 
> her, it would work for someone else. Once we had the frame in hand, I 
> contacted the lovely folks at Rivendell to ask for advice on sizing and the 
> build, and to buy components. We were eager to build it and ride. I can't 
> thank Will enough for his help with my many questions. He was incredibly 
> patient and generous with his time, and genuinely excited about this unusual 
> NOS frame. Will walked us through measuring things carefully: PBH of course, 
> seat tube length, saddle height of her previous bike, etc. He asked for 
> photos of her on the previous bike and about her riding style. He consulted 
> Grant about it, too. The advice was right on. In the end, we were confident 
> the size would be just right. And it was. We feel fortunate to have gotten it 
> and built it up.
>
> I mentioned that it appears to have been a custom paint job (Joe Bell?) 
> because I have never seen a Wilbury or Glorius frame in quite this light blue 
> color. Maybe others have, though. The soft color — and those lugs! — are part 
> of the bike's charm. I wonder if Rivendell still has a stash of the crazy 
> lugs. I believe Grant had said that once they ran out of the lugs, that would 
> be it and there would be no more custom Wilbury/Glorius builds.
>
> The next big question was who going to put the bike together. There are tons 
> of bike shops in DC proper, but we had to find a shop that we were totally 
> confident in, and that was experienced with and genuinely "got" Rivendell 
> mechanically, aesthetically, and philosophically (to the extent that there 
> even is a cohesive Rivendell philosophy), and that we connected with. I 
> was familiar with Mount Airy because I have perused its website many times, 
> dreaming of adding any number of bikes in their vast inventory to my stable. 
> But I had never been to the shop because it's a one-hour drive from DC and 
> traffic is usually gnarly getting out of the city. Larry said that he had 
> worked on Wilbury frames and many other Rivendells, and that we had found a 
> "true gem." Larry's shop is a veritable bicycle paradise as far as I'm 
> concerned. He, John, and Paul were so kind and helpful. I'll certainly be 
> frequenting the shop. I could not ask for better.
>
> The photos will show that the build is definitely Rivendellesque. We still 
> need to add a few things — bar tape, a bell, a mirror, maybe different grips. 
> But as it is, it's fantastic.
>
> .
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> I wonder if this was the one sold new from a CT seller and then the new 
>> buyer tried to flip it. In any case enjoy your new bike.
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 1:43 PM, mgst...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh! i see i posted the same thing a year ago...it's STILL a great bike! 
>>> Hope you enjoy your new one.
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:32:50 PM UTC-5 mgst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Here is my wife's Glorius, same era, custom color -
 It rides incredibly well - plush, but FAST
 She's had it since mid 2007
 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:24:08 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi J, regarding attaching pictures, the key is to make the file size 
> isn't too large. Before attaching photos to my posts, I always resize 
> them to something below 1mb.
>
> Would love to see pictures of the bike when you are able to put them up.
>
> David
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:38:36 AM UTC-8 J J wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. I'm new to this group. I thought it would be fun to share 
>> the latest about this thread's mysterious subject.
>>
>> We 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

   I received my Ortho bars only to discover the bars are not symmetrical. 
Both the structural 25.4mm bar clamp section and the roughened grip section 
for the bar clamp are closer to the right hand side of the bars, and 
neither is lined up with each other.  I could live with the roughened 
section being a bit off, but the 25.4mm bar clamp section is way too far 
over to the right. I wrote Crust an email asking about a return. These bars 
are so wide you don't immediately notice something is off, but when I 
pulled out my 56mm Albatross bars to compare, I noticed the bar clamp 
sections wouldn't line up. I was trying to measure just how much stem 
extension I was going to need to move over from my Alba's to the Ortho 
bars, and saw something was really off.

   These bars are not actually a ton wider than my Alba's so I'll just 
stick with my albatross cockpit for now.

John

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:56 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho bars 
> have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach for 
> my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think I'd be 
> better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in Manhattan, if 
> anyone would be interested in a trade...
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
>> stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)
>>
>> I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
>> Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
>> I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I really 
>> love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural than flat 
>> mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, 
>>>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
>>> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A Nitto 
>>> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube still 
>>> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>>>
>>> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the Technomic 
>>> Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>>>
>>> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
>>> I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Johnny,  
>>>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
>>> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
>>> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
>>>
>>> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
>>> off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with questions 
>>> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
>>> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person interested 
>>> in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>>>
>>> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars Sesion#1-#3 
>>> ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram photos, and they 
>>> created a monster.
>>>
>>> John
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
 upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
 with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 

 John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
 deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
 'em here 
 
 . 

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
> don't 
> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>> putting 
>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>> assumed 
>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>> aesthetics. 
>> I'm not a huge dude and 

[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Canti Romulus

[Chi]

This bike has sold!  It was nice to see the strong interests in this bike.  

I wish I could keep it but happy to see it being enjoyed by its new owner!

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:40:17 AM UTC-8 Chi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a 57 cm Canti-Rom for sale.  I picked up the frameset used some 
> years ago from a fellow lister and built it up mainly for casual 
> commuting/family rides.  
>
> I am sorry for parting with it since it is probably the best handling/best 
> looking bike I have ever owned, but for the kind of rides I do now, I just 
> don't ride it enough to justify holding on to it.  
>
> The condition is very good considering its age.  Some cosmetic scratches 
> here and there.  Nothing too concerning.
>
> I'm asking for $900 obo for the complete bike including the Nitto front 
> rack.  (Riv saddle bag and King Iris bottle cages can be included for an 
> extra charge.)
>
> Local sale only for now (in NE Los Angeles area).  You are welcome to come 
> check it out and test ride it!
>
> Components:
>
> * Dura Ace 9-speed downtube shifters
> * Tektro brake levers/canti brakes
> * Campy Veloce compact cranks
> * XT rear derailleur
> * MKS sneakers pedals
> * Mavic MA-2 rims
> * Clement Xplor 35 mm tires (rear is a little worn)
> * Thomson Elite seatpost
> * Brooks Cambium saddle
> * Brooks microfiber bar tapes (newly installed!)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chi
>

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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Jaden Salama]

Thanks to all who have participated to this thread. Wanted to throw in my 
two cents (also as a reader, not a moderator), and say that I've really 
enjoyed learning more from this thread, and am inspired to ride more 
harmoniously and with greater mindfulness and intention. 
I personally like climbing hills because I find it easier to achieve that 
"zen state" that Erik wrote about earlier; I'm definitely going to read 
some of the resources mentioned above to try and cultivate more experiences 
like this.

Jaden Salama
Feeling grateful in rainy Eugene, OR

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 4:12:21 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Hey Joe, Your point is well received, and I do appreciate that we all ride 
> in our own ways and for our own reasons. I'm delighted to have a forum like 
> this to learn about how others do so. 
>
> Perhaps a better title for this post would have been: 'Breathing, 
> attention and other practices that enhance your ride' 
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:58:12 AM UTC+9 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I don't have a lot to add, but since I think about this kind of a lot, 
>> I'll add my experience, but try to keep it short. I often recite/perform 
>> Thich Nhat Hahn's breathing poem when I ride: "In/Out, Deep/Slow, 
>> Calm/Ease, Smile/Release, Present Moment/Wonderful Moment". I've never been 
>> big on listening to teachers, so I never got into Zen or any other sort of 
>> formal practice, but I did take a bunch of psychedelics with friends who 
>> enjoyed talking about the nature of reality as much as I did, and ended up 
>> having some conversations with Buddhist teachers about following the path 
>> of the Buddha or finding one's own path. For me, many different experiences 
>> have led to me to where I am now, and cycling has been an important one - 
>> along with love and drugs.
>>
>> But after all of that, I find that without some sort of consistent 
>> practice, maintaining presence in my day-to-day life is a real struggle, 
>> exacerbated by the typical responsibilities of middle age. It may not 
>> matter how I practice, but doing it every day, one way or another, with 
>> intention, seems to be important. Inconsistency aside, maybe this is the 
>> year for a real bicycle day blowout.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-6 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at local 
>>> book shops for a couple different titles.
>>>
>>> The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
>>> already, so thanks for that Erik.
>>>
>>> I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
>>> , this 
>>> compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with ease, 
>>> including your saddlebag.
>>>
>>> It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a copy 
>>> around.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jared
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Erik,
 +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 

 We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough 
 about the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting 
 this thread. 

 Rob K. in MA

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
> most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before 
>> my posts get pulled!"
>>
>> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to 
>> unexpected places. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot 
>>> of people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of 
>>> talks by 
>>> Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
>>> book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
>>> over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there 
>>> are 
>>> many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  
>>>
>>> A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
>>> - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a 
>>> few years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a 
>>> fantastic 
>>> writer and teacher.  
>>> -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of 
>>> the original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great 

Re: [RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

[J.W.]

Thank you kindly for forwarding my email David!

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 1:26 PM David Person  wrote:
>
> Jon asked that I post this for him since he is new and being moderated, so 
> his replies don't post immediately.
>
> "Well, since I am new to the group and still being moderated, this will 
> probably not get posted until long after everyone has laughed at me for the 
> question, but: I realised after posting that the information on bikeinsights, 
> specifically the top tube angle, had been computed from a mis-entered top 
> tube length of 60 *mm* instead of 60 cm!! That's where the 12 degrees surely 
> comes from. I made the post over a week ago, and realised the source of the 
> mistake the following day and emailed the moderator to request that my post 
> not to forwarded to the list, and I suspect this follow-up will take a couple 
> of weeks to get approved too. Now, since I mentioned the issue on 
> bikeinsights to my dealer, he prodded them and they fixed the top tube length 
> in the data but they did not fix the computed top tube slope, which still 
> says 12 degrees.
> So this is a separate (and mistaken) issue than the updated geometry for the 
> MIT frames since 2018, which I understand. All is well and I expect to take 
> delivery of my 6-degree-slope AHH in a few weeks! (The dealer got the last of 
> the 58-cm frames at RBW when it was announced that dealers may not get 
> deliveries this spring as planned). I've been planning the build, am very 
> excited and will post again when I really am a RBW owner."
>
> Best - Jon in Montreal
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:10:55 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I have this protractor ap on my android phone.  It's great for measuring 
>> frame angles:
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.sira.protractor
>>
>> I't would be interesting to know what your bike actually measures out to - 
>> though I agree that the surest thing would be for O.P. Jon to just call 
>> Rivendell and ask.  Also, do I understand that you have a Sam rather than a 
>> Homer?
>>
>> Keith (who is simply curious about understanding design changes over time 
>> but, because he has a Saluki, has no need for a Homer or a Sam of his own.)
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:37:20 AM UTC-7 John G. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Maybe I can reassure you. I'm also a "level top tube" kind of guy who just 
>>> took delivery of my 2021 Homer Complete. I had the same second thoughts as 
>>> you when I checked BikeInsights after ordering my Homer. I'm right in the 
>>> middle of the size range for a 58, but I could've scraped by on a 61.5.
>>>
>>> Based on what I'm seeing in front of me in my garage, I'd be very surprised 
>>> if the new Homer's top tube angle is actually 11 degrees. It really doesn't 
>>> look that steep. I think it looks exactly like most of the Sams I've seen. 
>>> The frame in general looks very balanced and composed.
>>>
>>> I absolutely love mine, which I've set up as a brevet bike. The ride 
>>> quality and handling are both outstanding. It's plenty fast, too. I don't 
>>> think I'll ever go back to shorter chainstay Riv after this. I'm a convert.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 12:18:26 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am 99% certain that both the AHH and Sam have 6 degree TT slope.  
 However, could not hurt to call Riv and discuss.  They are very helpful on 
 the phone, and Grant himself might even be the one picking up the phone.  
 Has happened to me a couple times.

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> The updated geometry probably isn't noted on the current website because 
> it's actually been in place for a few years--since 2018 at least, since 
> the 2018 print catalog shows the new geometry. The change to the top tube 
> slope isn't the only change, the biggest other change being longer 
> chainstays, especially the larger sizes. It's part of a general revamp of 
> Rivendell's geometries across the board--the same thing happened with the 
> Atlantis, which along with the Homer is pretty much the only "legacy" 
> model they still make, albeit with a lot of changes.
>
> I, for one, see the reasoning behind the changes (better stability and 
> weight distribution, especially when sitting upright), and would 
> encourage you to give the new geometry a try. At the same time, I own 
> bikes with both the "new" Riv geometry (Clem Smith Jr) and the "classic" 
> Riv geometry (Rambouillet), and can understand that if you were expecting 
> the latter and got the former, how that would be a bit shocking.
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:35:13 AM UTC-8 J. W. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of 
>> coveting a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this 

[RBW] Re: Just noticed 2021 Homers have much steeper top tube than older models?

[J. W.]

Well, since I am new to the group and still being moderated, this will 
probably not get posted until long after everyone has laughed at me for the 
question, but: I realised after posting that the information on 
bikeinsights, specifically the top tube angle, had been computed from a 
mis-entered top tube length of 60 *mm* instead of 60 cm!! That's where the 
12 degrees surely comes from. I made the post over a week ago, and realised 
the source of the mistake the following day and emailed the moderator to 
request that my post not to forwarded to the list, and I suspect this 
follow-up will take a couple of weeks to get approved too. Now, since I 
mentioned the issue on bikeinsights to my dealer, he prodded them and they 
fixed the top tube length in the data but they did not fix the computed top 
tube slope, which still says 12 degrees.
So this is a separate (and mistaken) issue than the updated geometry for 
the MIT frames, which I understand. All is well and I expect to take 
delivery of my 6-degree-slope AHH in a few weeks! (The dealer got the last 
of the 58-cm frames at RBW when it was announced that dealers may not get 
deliveries this spring as planned). I've been planning the build, am very 
excited and will post again when I really am a RBW owner. Best - Jon in 
Montreal


On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:35:13 AM UTC-5 J. W. wrote:

>
> Hi everyone, this is my first post to this forum. After years of coveting 
> a Riv, I ordered a Homer and my dealer expects delivery this spring. As I 
> was just checking geometry to make sure I have a stem of the right length 
> ready for my reach, I noticed that the 2021 model has a considerably 
> steeper slope to the top tube (looks like almost 12 degrees, compared to 6, 
> if bikeinsights has it right). I'm a bit shocked, as I hadn't realised 
> there would be such a difference, and I hadn't read anything about any big 
> changes (I know they posted the measurements, and it's on me for not doing 
> due diligence, but I would have thought such a big change would have 
> warranted mention on the Riv site, with maybe their thinking on why, and 
> perhaps some comparison photos). All my visual reference for what I had to 
> look forward to is now out of date and of course I'm second-guessing 
> myself, maybe I should have ordered a Sam instead -- I'm mostly a 
> one-bike-at-a-time guy and my current bike, which I've ridden for a long 
> time, has a horizontal tube, and I felt 6 degrees was already a big step 
> for me. But, by looking at and admiring a lot of people's builds I came to 
> see the slight slope as a good thing and I embraced my 6-degree-slopey 
> future, step boldly into the future etc.
>
> Looking at the current photos on the Riv site, the Homer and the Sam have 
> exactly the same top-tube slope (if you compare the pictures taken in 
> profile they have models that line up perfectly -- switching back and forth 
> between tabs, once I got them lined up, shows that they are close to 
> identical), and they say there that the photos represent the 2021 geometry. 
> So what's going on? If the stack has been increased by as much as the 
> dimensions in the chart say, there's no way that those photos represent the 
> 2021 geometry accurately. I don't know what to do now! 
>
> What do you think? 
>
> Jon
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Twine Wrapping

[Mike Godwin]

The tricks to keeping it from disaggregating is wrap firmly but not super 
tight, and the pull-through piece. You know the twine is wrapped tight 
enough when the pull-through is difficult to accomplish. Pull the loop at 
least half way under the wrapped section.  Make the pulling ends of the 
loop piece long enough so you have a good purchase on the string for 
pulling under the tightly wrapped 
twine. Lots of friction there.

Or, wrap the bars like Peter, center to ends and use the end plugs to hold 
the tape in place. No need for twine or tape at the stem area.

Mike SLO CA
On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 1:55:20 AM UTC-8 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> It has been my experience that the twine in the Riv wrap unravels fairly 
> quickly if you don't cement it in place with shellac. I suppose you could 
> also saturate it with wood glue or some similar absorbable adhesive. I am 
> not normally a shellacker of bar tape; it's a messy job, and shellac dries 
> out fast if you don't use it up. Furthermore, I think the normal run of 
> plastic end tape options are uggo on oldie bikes. That's why I subscribe to 
> the stem-to-end religion.
>
> Peter Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 4:34:43 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> FWIW: The Riv video is not great, camera work is insane and it's really 
>> hard to follow along. 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Suntour Bar Con 7 speed shifters

[lconley]

Suntour Bar Con Accushift 7 speed bar end shifters. Some battle damage / 
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Re: [RBW] Re: If a group of people may want to put an order in to Blue Lug

[exliontamer]

I've put in an order recently  and have been amazed at how relatively quick 
and affordable it was. DHS is silly quick too. I think the key is getting 
odds & ends(exclusive grips, bar tape, that amazing x-pac zip up wallet, 
etc.) to make it worth while. 

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:27:04 PM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:

> Excuse the iPad auto correct. 
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 10:09 PM, 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Soviet, ir was over $30 to ship a $30 light so it would depend on the 
> shipping for a larger order and if it then makes sense.  Logistics ok for 
> me.  
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Sofie C  wrote:
>
> I actually thought of posting something similar -- there are a lot of 
> small things I'm interested in getting from Blue Lug, but I find myself 
> adding more to my cart than what I need to justify the shipping cost I 
> would be interested in going in on a group order, but with two young kids 
> and a ft job I'm not in a position to handle the logistics of organizing 
> one...
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:47:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Jared thank you I sent them a message so hopefully they’ll get back to me 
>> and if not I’ll give them a call. I really appreciate it
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM, Justin  wrote:
>>
>> Joel, reach out to Jared or David at Hope Cyclery in Johnstown PA. They 
>> are real sweethearts and get regular Blue Lug orders and keep the Koma 
>> lights stocked. https://hopecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/koma-light-rear
>> best
>> Justin
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:48:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Shipping is very expensive. I have a hard tine justifying paying more 
>>> for shipping than for the 1 Koma light I want to get. If there are others 
>>> in this situation maybe we can put in a larger order and save on shipping. 
>>>
>>> I was using the Kiley lights but it seems they redesigned them and a 
>>> front light only gives 2 hours now befor needing a recharged when on flash 
>>> mode. My Koma lights seem to last longer. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Rob Kristoff]

If anybody in this discussion would like to continue discussing bicycles, 
riding, and spirituality (of all types) "off list," I'd be happy to host 
such a thing in the comments section of my blog: 
https://robkristoffwriting.blogspot.com/2022/02/on-bicycles-and-spirituality-of-all.html
 if 
that helps. Hope to meet some of you there.

Rob



On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 12:05:06 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I agree, John. And I think there is something in particular about 
> Rivendell bicycles, that encourage it, for me. Some people may find it 
> freeriding machine built flow trails, but, here, what we all have in common 
> is a an appreciation of the ineffable ride quality and a connection to the 
> aesthetic experience of owning and riding Rivendell bicycles. For me at 
> least, the thing that makes a particular bike good for Just Riding is 
> probably what makes it good as part of an "activity that does not require 
> much discursive thought," as Watts put it.
>
> Thanks for sharing the talk.
>
> Paul
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 6:24:07 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> I hear you on the 'consistent practice' notion, Paul. This is why I find 
>> cycling such a wonderful medium. I enjoy it, it's something I don't really 
>> need to motivate myself to do, and I do it every day. As long as I'm 
>> sitting on the bike, I might as well breathe and enjoy my surroundings. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:12:21 AM UTC+9 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Joe, Your point is well received, and I do appreciate that we all 
>>> ride in our own ways and for our own reasons. I'm delighted to have a forum 
>>> like this to learn about how others do so. 
>>>
>>> Perhaps a better title for this post would have been: 'Breathing, 
>>> attention and other practices that enhance your ride' 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:58:12 AM UTC+9 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
 I don't have a lot to add, but since I think about this kind of a lot, 
 I'll add my experience, but try to keep it short. I often recite/perform 
 Thich Nhat Hahn's breathing poem when I ride: "In/Out, Deep/Slow, 
 Calm/Ease, Smile/Release, Present Moment/Wonderful Moment". I've never 
 been 
 big on listening to teachers, so I never got into Zen or any other sort of 
 formal practice, but I did take a bunch of psychedelics with friends who 
 enjoyed talking about the nature of reality as much as I did, and ended up 
 having some conversations with Buddhist teachers about following the path 
 of the Buddha or finding one's own path. For me, many different 
 experiences 
 have led to me to where I am now, and cycling has been an important one - 
 along with love and drugs.

 But after all of that, I find that without some sort of consistent 
 practice, maintaining presence in my day-to-day life is a real struggle, 
 exacerbated by the typical responsibilities of middle age. It may not 
 matter how I practice, but doing it every day, one way or another, with 
 intention, seems to be important. Inconsistency aside, maybe this is the 
 year for a real bicycle day blowout.

 Paul in AR

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-6 duh...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at 
> local book shops for a couple different titles.
>
> The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
> already, so thanks for that Erik.
>
> I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
> , 
> this compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with 
> ease, including your saddlebag.
>
> It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a 
> copy around.
>
> Best,
> Jared
>
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Erik,
>> +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 
>>
>> We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough 
>> about the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting 
>> this thread. 
>>
>> Rob K. in MA
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on 
>>> the most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have 
>>> this 
>>> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop 
 before my posts get pulled!"

 Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to 
 unexpected 

[RBW] Re: Twine Wrapping

[Peter Adler]

It has been my experience that the twine in the Riv wrap unravels fairly 
quickly if you don't cement it in place with shellac. I suppose you could 
also saturate it with wood glue or some similar absorbable adhesive. I am 
not normally a shellacker of bar tape; it's a messy job, and shellac dries 
out fast if you don't use it up. Furthermore, I think the normal run of 
plastic end tape options are uggo on oldie bikes. That's why I subscribe to 
the stem-to-end religion.

Peter Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 4:34:43 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> FWIW: The Riv video is not great, camera work is insane and it's really 
> hard to follow along. 

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