[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Joe Bernard]

It's entirely possible I've developed an 'old guy' thing about it. I used 
to own a very loud FIAT 500 Abarth which I adored, then traded for a much 
quieter Chevy Impala five years ago. I don't think I'd be ok with the yappy 
little Italian car now, I've turned into a grumpy old man who wants his 
peace. Get off my lawn!  



On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:10:14 PM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:

> The freewheel mechanisms in my hubs vary from Onyx (completely silent), 
> through Shimano (fairly quiet), DT Swiss (not so quiet), to Hope (pretty 
> loud). But I can't say that I really think about or notice hub noise when 
> I'm riding. I really only notice it when I'm servicing bikes in the garage.
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Nick Payne]

The freewheel mechanisms in my hubs vary from Onyx (completely silent), 
through Shimano (fairly quiet), DT Swiss (not so quiet), to Hope (pretty 
loud). But I can't say that I really think about or notice hub noise when 
I'm riding. I really only notice it when I'm servicing bikes in the garage.

Nick

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Matt Maceda]

I forgot the link: 
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-58cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7449252554.html
On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-8 Matt Maceda wrote:

> 58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)
>
> "Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the call. 
>> Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always felt just a 
>> little too tall for me. Fun bike though. 
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller, who 
>>> runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a cash-only 
>>> deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d be 
>>> surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!: 

 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I am so shocked that's still available.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:
>
>> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously 
>> tempted to inquire about that Glorius. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about 
>>> Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>>
 Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.

 Mike SLO CA

 On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
> Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn 
> find!”I’ve been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene 
> Herse 
> covered in cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather 
> than die 
> waiting I decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of 
> international eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling and 
> head 
> scratching transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my French 
> barn 
> find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find 
> myself 
> needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has 
> taken me 
> across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a 
> daily 
> driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the juicy 
> detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my 
> profile.*
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: Screen 
> Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 
> at 8.32.28 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.45 
> AM.png]
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Matt Maceda]

58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)

"Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the call. 
> Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always felt just a 
> little too tall for me. Fun bike though. 
>
> Marty
>
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller, who 
>> runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a cash-only 
>> deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d be 
>> surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!: 
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I am so shocked that's still available.

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:

> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously 
> tempted to inquire about that Glorius. 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about 
>> Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
 Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 

 https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/











 *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn 
 find!”I’ve been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene 
 Herse 
 covered in cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather than 
 die 
 waiting I decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of 
 international eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling and 
 head 
 scratching transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my French 
 barn 
 find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find 
 myself 
 needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has 
 taken me 
 across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a 
 daily 
 driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the juicy 
 detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my 
 profile.*

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: Screen 
 Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 
 at 8.32.28 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.45 AM.png]

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Joe Bernard]

Hi Pam!

It's quite glorious to ride..and gorgeous and built into a perfect wheel by 
Rich Lesnik at Riv and Hands On Wheels. I don't love the buzz but it's not 
a deal breaker, I'm keeping it! 
On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 7:55:34 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I don't like the fancy, loud hubs.  I don't mind them on other people's 
> bikes but I like a quiet bike.  Just my preference.  I just want something 
> reliable that will last.  I got a Phil touring hub and asked before I got 
> it if it'd be loud.  It's whatever you like.  But how does it ride?
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:58:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
>> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
>> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
>> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
>> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>>
>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Pam Bikes]

I don't like the fancy, loud hubs.  I don't mind them on other people's 
bikes but I like a quiet bike.  Just my preference.  I just want something 
reliable that will last.  I got a Phil touring hub and asked before I got 
it if it'd be loud.  It's whatever you like.  But how does it ride?

On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:58:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>
> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>

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[RBW] Re: Everglades

[John Bokman]

Great shots Laing!

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 7:22:59 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> I haven't been riding a whole lot since I moved to south Florida as the 
> roads are kind of crowded with people that don't pay a lot of attention to 
> what they are doing. Most of my riding had been on the El Rio Trail 
> commuting to work. So I did some research. I live in Delray Beach, which is 
> the "thinnest" part of the populated part of south Florida. The beach is 
> four miles due east and the Everglades starts seven miles due west. Three 
> miles north of that is the Arthur R Marshall Loxahatchee National Wildlife 
> Refuge. It turns out that there is a path on top of the dike at the edge of 
> the Everglades. I have a Lifetime Senior Pass for National Parks, etc., so 
> yesterday I decided to to put my Mystery Bike in the back of the Element to 
> go see what I could see.
>
> [image: EGs.jpg]
>
> I guess this qualifies as gravel. No cars other than one park truck, just 
> a few pedestrians, occasional kitted-out bikers on a carbon fiber gravel 
> bikes, a few people on Walmart mountain bikes, the occasional small boat in 
> the canal, and an airplane doing acrobatics over head. Zero elevation 
> change. Not a lot of change in the view, but very quiet when the airplane 
> wasn't around - low stress riding. Didn't see any alligators, but they are 
> out there. I will be back for longer rides (with a water bottle). This 
> trail goes north and south for many miles - I think it is 40+ miles in 
> total.
> The single speed Mystery bike on 29x2 Big Bens is about perfect for this. 
> I do need to transfer some Ergon grips onto it from another bike. The 
> Rustines grips just don't cut it.
>
> [image: EG2s.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[MoVelo]

I'm old enough to have lost enough hearing to not be bothered by buzzy 
hubs, and I try to keep an appropriate social distance from those that 
could potentially be bothered by them. 

My Chris Blings are noisy and sometimes I can hear them. My Shimanos are 
silent, I think. 

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 3:58:43 PM UTC-6 aeroperf wrote:

> Came here looking for the:  “Unclip the playing cards from your 
> chainstays” comment.
> [badda bum!]
>
> OK, I’m old.  But I can’t be the only one who did this as a kid...
>
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Re: [RBW] chainring installation

[Huston]

For those who have installed TA rings on a 5 bolt spider, where do you 
orient the pin relative to the crank arm?  In this case (TA crank with TA 
rings), one chainring bolt is "hidden" behind the arm.  I figured the pin 
would go behind the arm as well, but that's not an option.  So, if the arm 
is at 6:00, the pin can be at 4:48 or 7:12 but not 6:00.  Of course, there 
are 3 other options (including high noon).  Any guidance would be 
appreciated.

Thanks,
Huston

On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 9:35:24 PM UTC-5 Kevin D norcal - santa 
rosa wrote:

>
>
> here's another thread discussing the T.A. drop pin and a couple good 
> pics.  I'd guess the spacer is used to lengthen the set-up if there's a 
> larger gap involved, between chainring and crankarm.
> Having the screw head on the inside is apparently correct but seems 
> undesirable - why didn't they tap the hole so all the working parts could 
> be outboard of the chainring (I guess you'd have to install the drop-pin 
> before installing the chainring that way, so less convenient perhaps).  The 
> pics at this link show a 5arm spider but the 5th arm isn't in line with the 
> crank (not hidden).  Dave H pointed out the pin is intended for the 5th 
> arm, when hidden I presume.  So maybe not needed on this version . . . or 
> do other set-ups still jam to some degree and this could help anyway? 
>
> https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/ta-chainrings-what%E2%80%99s-this-spacer-for.277396/
>
> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 11:22:26 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I just don't understand that solution. All the chain-drop-stoppers I've 
>> seen are a small grub screw that threads into the chainring, there's no 
>> screw/spacer on the backside of the ring. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 8:56:21 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Here's an image.  One thing to be aware of, assuming your screw head is 
>>> as thick as this:  In some gear combinations, when my chain is on the ring 
>>> adjacent to the big/outer ring with the pin, I get a "ticking" as the screw 
>>> head rotates around and hits the chain.  Took me forever to figure it out, 
>>> after which I just didn't worry about it.
>>> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 2:48:19 AM UTC-7 David Hallerman wrote:
>>>
 Yes, I’ve installed many TA chainrings, and that screw/nut/spacer is to 
 be used when the crank is a 5-arm spider. The s/n/s goes on the out-facing 
 side of the big ring to prevent chain drop jamming.

 With a 4-arm crank, no need for s/n/s.

 On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:05 AM Jim S.  wrote:

> Hi, I'm installing a T.A. chainring, and it comes with a small screw, 
> nut, and spacer. I'm perplexed. Does anyone know what these are for? 
>
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[RBW] Anybody in the Bay Area (Oak or SF) have experience with the Large Bags By Bird Goldback?

[Alex K]

I am having trouble deciding between the Large and Medium Goldback, and if 
anybody has one and would be willing to meet up so that I could check it 
out, that'd be real cool.  I have a Piccolo and it's, well, it's a bit 
piccolo
Thanks for reading.
Alex
a c k s f 7 8 gmail

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Happisack w/roo pouch (Grid Grey) AND Acorn Medium beige Handlebar Bag

[Alex K]

Both Sold.  Thanks!

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 3:12:30 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak wrote:

> what color is the Happisack, grey grid or tan.  The pictures are very 
> small.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 12:28:14 AM UTC-5 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Both lightly used.  Acorn Bag has a little piece of fabric which was sewn 
>> on professionally for extra cinching to the stem, which I found really 
>> keeps it snug when riding rougher terrain.
>> In SF Bay Area, local pickup would be nice 
>> $180 shipped CONUS for Happisack 
>> $75 shipped CONUS for Acorn
>> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto Hi-Riser in 105, 110, or 135

[Joe Mullins]

I’m looking for one too! If there are multiples out there put me down for one 
please. 

Thanks,
Joe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:
> 
> As the title states, I am looking for one of the longer Nitto Hi-riser stems 
> for a frame that I am trying to make work, despite the threadless steerer.  
> 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-hiriser-25-4-1-1-8-threadless-stem-16252?variant=23337063489
> 
> Does anyone here have one or two available?  
> 
> Best regards,
> Matt B
> Oswego, IL
> 
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Nitto 26.8 seatposts

[Ryan Frahm]

I have seen a few of the S65 pop up on eBay lately. I picked up a 300mm 
length shipped from Japan in about a week not long ago. S83 I haven’t been 
able to find in 26.8. 

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:37:51 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

>
> From everything I've seen the S67 is an oversized 31.8 x 460mm post with 
> the head of the S65. I believe Alex's listed it as once for sale in black 
> also, otherwise silver. I'm pretty sure Ben's has them, they have lots of 
> Nitto stuff.  I you really need a S65 26.8 silver they are for sale on that 
> there w w w . 
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 3:25:07 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> I think the S67 is the black version of the S65. I prefer the S83 (aka 
>> Frog), with its two bolt setup vs the single bolt of the S65/67. It's much 
>> easier to make fine adjustments to the saddle angle with the S83.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Hi-Riser in 105, 110, or 135

[Matt Beecher]

As the title states, I am looking for one of the longer Nitto Hi-riser 
stems for a frame that I am trying to make work, despite the threadless 
steerer.  

https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-hiriser-25-4-1-1-8-threadless-stem-16252?variant=23337063489

Does anyone here have one or two available?  

Best regards,
Matt B
Oswego, IL




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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[aeroperf]

Came here looking for the:  “Unclip the playing cards from your chainstays” 
comment.
[badda bum!]

OK, I’m old.  But I can’t be the only one who did this as a kid...

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Joe Bernard]

I don't remember the question and such as and thereof. 

Joe "what's that buzzing sound" Bernard

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 1:10:10 AM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Are you pissing all the neighbors off, or pissing off all the neighbors?  
> I think the grammar needs to be explored as much as the hubba bubba of the 
> hubs. I am not the one to dissect the grammar though. Is off at the end of 
> a sentence a preposition?  I cannot recall.  Joe, just a gentil jab who is 
> jonesing on the cacophony of rotating steel bits. I have silent, medium and 
> kind of noisy rear hubs. Three bikes, three different hubs, but they all 
> have the same brake levers. I try and ride each one on different days. 
> Swarm of bees is the newest (my ex-GF did not like the euphemism swarm of 
> rattlesnakes which I think more closely describes buzzy hubs).   
>
> Mike SLO CA 
> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 3:21:22 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I had my White hub apart this weekend and put a few drops of Finish 
>> Line (wet) on the ratchet teeth before reassembling. The hub is noticeably 
>> more quiet.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:18:31 PM UTC+9 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> I find my Hope hubs (quite noisy when freewheeling) are useful on 
>>> bikepaths. When approaching pedestrians from behind, a quick freewheel is 
>>> usually enough to get their attention without having to ring my bell.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Twine Time

[Christopher Wiggins]

Saw a post some days ago asking for a video on how to twine bar tape.  Even 
though I'm sure there are several out there I thought I'd give it a go.

Thanks!

https://youtu.be/A0HkAC7i0X0

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[RBW] Re: FS: Parts, Racks, Bags, etc.

[Friend]

I take it the frame isn't for sale?  Got an info link to the Jandd, or some 
other photos possibly?

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 3:07:33 PM UTC-5 ant ritchey wrote:

> PMed for the Tektro's
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:01:04 PM UTC-8 Drw wrote:
>
>> Hi All, 
>> selling off a few things. Prices do not include shipping. Happy to do 
>> discounts on multiple item purchases.  photos HERE 
>> 
>> .  
>>
>> *Tubus Cargo rack*- this is the powdercoated version, not stainless. 
>> Good shape, but some light scuffs. It only ever had a saddlebag that rested 
>> on it. *50$*
>>
>> *Microshift FD*- this worked on a triple. comes with 31.8 clamp, but 
>> it's a braze on derailleur, so you can swap it for 28.6. * 20$*
>>
>> *Tektro cr720 cantilever brake set-* one bike's worth. a little dirty, 
>> but ill clean them up a bit. 30$ 
>>
>> *Dia Compe SS6 *short pull levers. some shellac residue- *18$*
>>
>> *Nitto Tallux stem*- 100mm extension. 25.4 clamp. Excellent condition. 
>> *55$*
>>
>> *MKS Touring pedals*- *12$*
>>
>> *Rivendell Sackville saddlesack Small*- this is a little different than 
>> the one they currently sell. Olive green. great shape- *95$*
>>
>> *Jandd handlebar bag-* bartender style bag in pink. one scuff on the 
>> bottom. *- 25$*
>>
>> *Gyes Leather saddle*- similar shape to a brooks b69, but unsprung. 
>> Quality is closer to that of the VO leather saddles. excellent condition 
>> *40$*
>>
>> *Crane bell-* free with another purchase.
>>
>> Ive listed the following items before, and i'd like to move them along. 
>> Feel free to make me offers on these. 
>>
>> *Nemo Hornet 1p tent*- this has been my go to tent for the last 2 years 
>> whenever im alone. But camping alone has become pretty rare, so this has 
>> only seen somewhere between 15-20 nights of use. its super light, 
>> freestanding, roomy for 1, easy to setup and solid. It fits in the 
>> outershell bag without the poles. includes tent, fly, poles, stakes and 
>> original bags, and tyvek footprint info here 
>> .
>>
>> *Six moon designs lunar solo*- info here 
>> . This is brand new. 
>> I tested it out one night in my backyard. It has been factory seam sealed 
>> (+35$). it is the current silpoly version which is arguably better. It uses 
>> a trekking pole or a smaller pole you can buy from SMD or other places that 
>> do the single wall tent thing. It can squash down to the size of a large 
>> nalgene.   **this is being sold as it was purchased and does not include 
>> stakes or a pole* *
>>
>> *-Nitto B904 Bullmoose- *threadless, mounted but never ridden.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>> Drew, LA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

[Friend]

I used to ride with the Albatross but the bends in the bars were 
uncomfortable when I wanted to put my hands in a more forwards position.  I 
switched to Bosco bars and love them but I am ridiculously upright.  I can 
lean forwards and rest my elbows on by bar grips, with my hands in the 
center of the bar.  I can hardly stand and pedal though, as my hands will 
basically be at my hips.  I'l like to switch and am considering the 
choco-moose based off this thread.
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 12:15:49 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Yeah I'm a handlebar fiend. The first bar I became obsessed with was the 
> Albatross with bar-end shifters. Truly a perfect cockpit. The second 
> handlebar obsession was the Nitto B135 in the 45cm flavor... but then I 
> discovered my preference for shorter reach, which led me to my third and 
> maybe-latest favorite: Ritchey's Butano handlebar. Another perfect one: 
> it's ridiculously comfortable with just a single layer of Green Grips 
> cotton bar tape. HOWEVER. I'm waiting on a new pair of Albatross bars to 
> come in the mail from Riv, so I'm going back to the beginning to see how 
> that feels. 
>
> Going from drops to alt-bars is the biggest swap for me because it usually 
> means I've completely changed the intention of the build from an 
> endurance-focused bike (drops) to a fun, smell the roses, 
> better-all-terrain bike (alt-bars). It's on like a 1.5-2 year rotation it 
> seems. I romanticize spending all day on the saddle, try it, get 
> progressively more bored for the next year and a half, then revert and/or 
> graduate to Albatross bars until I get sick of the headwind on a paved ride 
> in another year and a half!   
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 8:04:27 AM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Yep!
>>
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/135532314029/the-joe-appaloosa-saga-its-a-new-bike
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:31:54 AM UTC-5 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> Were the choco moose bars original equipment on the first round of 
>>> Appaloosas?  
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:10:33 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:
>>>
 [image: 186E1CD7-3716-4BE9-A68B-A3B5D6CD2FD2.jpeg]+1 choco moose

  

 On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:18:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> Same here for the choco moose bars on this bike. I switched to 
> albatross to lighten the build, but went back to the perfect  bars for 
> this 
> bike—choco moose. 
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:58:54 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>> I did the same thing to my Appaloosas: boscomoose, bullmoose, 
>> chocomoose, choco, albatross, billie. All of them worked great on this 
>> bike. At the end of the day I always come back to the chocomoose though. 
>> There is something magical about those bars, at least for me. Great hand 
>> positions. I love how they are inverted. And yes, they are tougher and 
>> stiffer than other bars 'n stems. They work great with bar end shifters 
>> or 
>> thumbies. One thing I discovered is that although I think the silver 
>> shifters are the best, the clamp is not so great for inboard thumbies. 
>> The 
>> microshift shifters with paul levers have a nice low profile and don't 
>> interrupt your hand positions. With respect to the Newbaums, yes I have 
>> used a shameful amount for bar swaps over the years. At some point I 
>> just 
>> started slipping oury grips on the end and leaving the forward grip 
>> areas 
>> permanently taped. Bike looks great!
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> I just used my standard Nitto drop bar on my Appaloosa, with a 
>>> shorter stem than on my other bikes because it has a longer top tube. 
>>> Brake 
>>> levers in their normal location, wrapped the bars, haven't changed 
>>> anything 
>>> since:
>>> [image: PXL_20201213_024100183.jpg]
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB or trade 57 Gus

[Ron Frazelle]

Hi, 

Looking to buy a 57 (PBH 87) Gus frameset. Or if you wanted to trade for a 
new (45 miles) Aventon Level Commuter Ebike, that would be awesome!  

Let me know. 

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[RBW] White Rock Lake - was that you?

[Philip Barrett]

Blue Homer yesterday at the spillway - I was running not riding & I called 
out after you "nice Rivendell" but I'm not sure you heard me?

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[RBW] Re: Nitto 26.8 seatposts

[Garth]

>From everything I've seen the S67 is an oversized 31.8 x 460mm post with 
the head of the S65. I believe Alex's listed it as once for sale in black 
also, otherwise silver. I'm pretty sure Ben's has them, they have lots of 
Nitto stuff.  I you really need a S65 26.8 silver they are for sale on that 
there w w w . 
On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 3:25:07 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> I think the S67 is the black version of the S65. I prefer the S83 (aka 
> Frog), with its two bolt setup vs the single bolt of the S65/67. It's much 
> easier to make fine adjustments to the saddle angle with the S83.
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Mike Godwin]

Are you pissing all the neighbors off, or pissing off all the neighbors?  I 
think the grammar needs to be explored as much as the hubba bubba of the 
hubs. I am not the one to dissect the grammar though. Is off at the end of 
a sentence a preposition?  I cannot recall.  Joe, just a gentil jab who is 
jonesing on the cacophony of rotating steel bits. I have silent, medium and 
kind of noisy rear hubs. Three bikes, three different hubs, but they all 
have the same brake levers. I try and ride each one on different days. 
Swarm of bees is the newest (my ex-GF did not like the euphemism swarm of 
rattlesnakes which I think more closely describes buzzy hubs).   

Mike SLO CA 
On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 3:21:22 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> FWIW, I had my White hub apart this weekend and put a few drops of Finish 
> Line (wet) on the ratchet teeth before reassembling. The hub is noticeably 
> more quiet.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:18:31 PM UTC+9 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> I find my Hope hubs (quite noisy when freewheeling) are useful on 
>> bikepaths. When approaching pedestrians from behind, a quick freewheel is 
>> usually enough to get their attention without having to ring my bell.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Soma Sparrow 52cm silver handlebars

[Mike Godwin]

Hey Eddie

Any takers yet? 

Mike SLO CA

On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 10:34:21 AM UTC-8 eddietheflay wrote:

> look better right side up:
>
> https://www.vcjshop.top/ProductDetail.aspx?iid=297217287&pr=57.88
>
> Now $50 shipped.
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:06:41 PM UTC-8 eddietheflay wrote:
>
>> Please respond to eddie dot flayer at att dot net
>>
>> Next to new with a couple of minor scratches where levers were installed.
>>
>> Like this:
>>
>>
>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/soma-handlebar-sparrow-3317?page=2&category=977
>>
>> $55 net to me will get them shipped to you.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto 26.8 seatposts

[Nick Payne]

I think the S67 is the black version of the S65. I prefer the S83 (aka 
Frog), with its two bolt setup vs the single bolt of the S65/67. It's much 
easier to make fine adjustments to the saddle angle with the S83.

Nick

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