Re: [RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Steven Sweedler]

We would use baseball cards, but would only put them on our bikes for
special events like riding behind a parade. I grew up outside of New
Haven,Ct and most of my friends and I were Yankee fans, I doubt anyone ever
put a Mantle card on their bike. Steve

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 4:37 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Poll: Who clipped playing cards to your fender struts or stays? Even
> older, who clipped *baseball cards* to them? I recall using baseball
> cards scrounged from friends about 60 years ago; in fact, in our circle,
> baseball cards (Mickey Mantle! Probably Ty Cobb, too) were a lot more
> common than playing cards. IIRC, baseball cards came with those dry,
> brittle slabs of bubble gum and probably tasted better.
>
> Patrick "no annoying ratcheting sounds with a fixed gear" Moore, who in
> reality likes the slow tick-tick-tick of overdriven pawls in Sturmey Archer
> epicyclics.
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:01 PM Jim Whorton 
> wrote:
>
>> Aeroperf, yes, I also ruined some baseball cards by clipping them to
>> chainstays 40-something years ago.  Who knows, maybe they would be worth
>> tens of thousands of dollars now.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Peter Adler]

Baseball cards more common than playing cards? I suppose that depends on 
when/where/how you grew up.

I remember the great economic crisis of my early childhood, when in 1967 
the price of Bazooka Joe bubblegum at the liquor store in my neighborhood* 
doubled from one cent to two, and the buying power of my 5-cent weekly 
allowance (which I had hitherto considered princely) was cut in half. 
Baseball cards were an unaffordable luxury at 5 cents a pack, and the 
bubblegum in those packs was much staler than Bazooka Joe. The A's hadn't 
moved to Oakland yet, and my New Yorker father boycotted the Giants as 
turncoats, so I had no baseball interest until I was older.

At the same time, my father was a dealer in an Emeryville poker hall, from 
the time before Emeryville was known for malls, condos, corporate offices 
and Pixar. As one might imagine, there were always playing cards around my 
house; the older decks would normally get tossed unless the employees took 
them away. So it was playing cards in the spokes of my Raleigh Chopper, 
unless it was old IBM punchcards my mom brought home from her computer 
operations job at Ma Bell's West Coast routing center in San Francisco.

Peter Adler
who sometimes notices how strange his life has been when he reads it 
written down in
Berkeley, CA/USA

* yes, youngs; BITD, small children could go into liquor stores 
unaccompanied and buy stuff without comment from anybody. I even bought 
smokes for my dad at that liquor store

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 7:37:48 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Poll: Who clipped playing cards to your fender struts or stays? Even 
> older, who clipped *baseball cards* to them? I recall using baseball 
> cards scrounged from friends about 60 years ago; in fact, in our circle, 
> baseball cards (Mickey Mantle! Probably Ty Cobb, too) were a lot more 
> common than playing cards. IIRC, baseball cards came with those dry, 
> brittle slabs of bubble gum and probably tasted better.
>
> Patrick "no annoying ratcheting sounds with a fixed gear" Moore, who in 
> reality likes the slow tick-tick-tick of overdriven pawls in Sturmey Archer 
> epicyclics.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Patrick Moore]

Poll: Who clipped playing cards to your fender struts or stays? Even older,
who clipped *baseball cards* to them? I recall using baseball cards
scrounged from friends about 60 years ago; in fact, in our circle, baseball
cards (Mickey Mantle! Probably Ty Cobb, too) were a lot more common than
playing cards. IIRC, baseball cards came with those dry, brittle slabs of
bubble gum and probably tasted better.

Patrick "no annoying ratcheting sounds with a fixed gear" Moore, who in
reality likes the slow tick-tick-tick of overdriven pawls in Sturmey Archer
epicyclics.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:01 PM Jim Whorton 
wrote:

> Aeroperf, yes, I also ruined some baseball cards by clipping them to
> chainstays 40-something years ago.  Who knows, maybe they would be worth
> tens of thousands of dollars now.
>

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[RBW] Re: W - MKS Pedal Spikes

[J Imler]

Here’s the link - https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedal-spikes-32

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 6:51:39 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:

> Hello, I’m looking for pedal spikes that Riv sells. Not sure when if ever 
> they might restock. Does anyone have extras from when you added spikes? My 
> Appaloosa will be getting some Lambdas so I’d appreciate it. PM off list.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedal-spikes-3
>

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[RBW] W - MKS Pedal Spikes

[J Imler]

Hello, I’m looking for pedal spikes that Riv sells. Not sure when if ever 
they might restock. Does anyone have extras from when you added spikes? My 
Appaloosa will be getting some Lambdas so I’d appreciate it. PM off list.

https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedal-spikes-3

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Collin A]

I mean if it actually comes with the Paul brakes instead of what we think
of "silver brakes" (r559s) it might be a good deal!

Collin in Sactown

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 5:20 PM John G.  wrote:

> I think this was posted right after the 58 cm Homers sold out at Riv.
> Pretty frustrating, though I'm glad the Homer seems to be selling well. I
> posted elsewhere, but my new Homer is just stunning to ride and gaze upon.
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 6:09:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yeah I'm officially sick of the Rivendell price gougers. There was some
>> sense to it at the height of the pandemic bike boom/supply shortage, but
>> it's just rude now.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:29 PM UTC-8 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> The price on that AHH is ridiculous. You could get a brand new frame for
>>> cheaper.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-6 mma...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I forgot the link:
 https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-58cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7449252554.html
 On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-8 Matt Maceda wrote:

> 58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)
>
> "Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke,
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the
>> call. Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always 
>> felt
>> just a little too tall for me. Fun bike though.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller,
>>> who runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a 
>>> cash-only
>>> deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d 
>>> be
>>> surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!:

 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien
 wrote:

> I am so shocked that's still available.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum
> wrote:
>
>> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously,
>> seriously tempted to inquire about that Glorius.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5
>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about
>>> Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.

 Mike SLO CA

 On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8
 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San
> Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram.
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn
> find!”I’ve been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a 
> Rene Herse
> covered in cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather 
> than die
> waiting I decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots 
> of
> international eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling 
> and head
> scratching transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my 
> French barn
> find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I 
> find myself
> needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has 
> taken me
> across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as 
> a daily
> driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the 
> juicy
> detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my 

[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Jim Whorton]

Aeroperf, yes, I also ruined some baseball cards by clipping them to 
chainstays 40-something years ago.  Who knows, maybe they would be worth 
tens of thousands of dollars now.

I was on a short bike trip in Mississippi a couple of springs ago and 
talked to some kids--one of them, maybe 7, had jammed a disposable water 
bottle into the fork of his bike, between the crown and the tire.  That was 
a new one to me.  He demonstrated and when the tire turned, the crinkling 
hollow plastic did make a rumbling sound not totally unlike a motorcycle 
engine.  It was pretty cool.

Jim in Rochester, NY

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:58:43 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Came here looking for the:  “Unclip the playing cards from your 
> chainstays” comment.
> [badda bum!]
>
> OK, I’m old.  But I can’t be the only one who did this as a kid...
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Sackville Bags, flaps, rolls

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Some updates:

(1) Blue trunk sack $105
(2) Grey trunk sacks $105 each
(1) Blue xsmall saddle sack $70
(7) Blue flaps $15 each
(2) Olive flaps $15 each
(1) Brown flap $15
(1) Tool wrap (second pic shows back color) $40

Updated pricing and some 2fer pricing:

any 2 flaps for $25


Cheers!
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:

> (1) Blue trunk sack $105
> (2) Grey trunk sacks $105 each
> (1) Blue xsmall saddle sack $70
> (7) Blue flaps $15 each
> (2) Olive flaps $15 each
> (1) Brown flap $15
> (1) Tool wrap (second pic shows back color) $40
>
> Updated pricing and some 2fer pricing:
>
> any 2 trunk sacks for $180
>
> any 2 flaps for $25
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 8:54:49 PM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
> Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
>> Xsmall saddle sack and tool roll are pending
>>
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 8:10:58 PM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
>> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG-7988.JPG]
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 8:10:31 PM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
>>> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>>
 [image: IMG-7987.JPG]

 On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 8:09:54 PM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
 Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:

> Hi All!
> I came across a box of sackville stuff after a recent move.  This is 
> all brand new never used (we used to own a shop that sold Rivs).  Looks 
> like most of this is out of stock, so might be your lucky day if you've 
> been waiting   :-)
>
> Here's a list:
>
> (1) Blue trunk sack $105
> (2) Grey trunk sacks $105 each
> (1) Blue xsmall saddle sack $70
> (7) Blue flaps $15 each
> (2) Olive flaps $15 each
> (1) Brown flap $15
> (1) Tool wrap (second pic shows back color) $40
> Pics to follow
>
> I will ship USPS priority conus actual cost.  Friends and family 
> paypal is appreciated but not necessary if we don't know each other.  
> Cashapp also works. 
>
> Cheers!!
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[John G.]

I think this was posted right after the 58 cm Homers sold out at Riv. 
Pretty frustrating, though I'm glad the Homer seems to be selling well. I 
posted elsewhere, but my new Homer is just stunning to ride and gaze upon.

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 6:09:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yeah I'm officially sick of the Rivendell price gougers. There was some 
> sense to it at the height of the pandemic bike boom/supply shortage, but 
> it's just rude now. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:29 PM UTC-8 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> The price on that AHH is ridiculous. You could get a brand new frame for 
>> cheaper. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-6 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot the link: 
>>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-58cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7449252554.html
>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-8 Matt Maceda wrote:
>>>
 58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)

 "Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
 On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, 
 Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the call. 
> Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always felt just 
> a 
> little too tall for me. Fun bike though. 
>
> Marty
>
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller, 
>> who runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a 
>> cash-only 
>> deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d 
>> be 
>> surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!: 
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I am so shocked that's still available.

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum 
 wrote:

> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously 
> tempted to inquire about that Glorius. 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about 
>> Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot. 
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 
>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
 Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 

 https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/











 *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn 
 find!”I’ve been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene 
 Herse 
 covered in cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather 
 than die 
 waiting I decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots 
 of 
 international eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling 
 and head 
 scratching transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my 
 French barn 
 find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find 
 myself 
 needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has 
 taken me 
 across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a 
 daily 
 driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the 
 juicy 
 detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my 
 profile.*

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: 
 Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 
 2022-01-28 at 8.32.28 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 
 8.32.45 AM.png]

[RBW] Hubbuhubbuh frame FS

[luckyturnip]

For those who follow “Zachhalesale” on IG, he has a blue Rivendell Hubbuhhubbuh 
frame for sale on Instagram for $2000 including headset and tandem cranks.

No affiliation 

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[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

[Jason Fuller]

I like the White's sound - they're not quiet, but I find their buzz has an 
elegance to it compared to some of the really loud MTB hubs out there (Hope 
I think it one example, I can't recall the others).  I appreciate that a 
silent hub is nicer for quiet time in nature.  What I like about the light 
buzz is that I can passively let people know I'm coming up behind them 
without a jarring ding of the bell (I'll pedal backwards as I approach to 
amplify the effect) 

On Wednesday, 9 February 2022 at 19:58:17 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>
> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah I'm officially sick of the Rivendell price gougers. There was some 
sense to it at the height of the pandemic bike boom/supply shortage, but 
it's just rude now. 

Joe Bernard

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:29 PM UTC-8 Sean B. wrote:

> The price on that AHH is ridiculous. You could get a brand new frame for 
> cheaper. 
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-6 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I forgot the link: 
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-58cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7449252554.html
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-8 Matt Maceda wrote:
>>
>>> 58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)
>>>
>>> "Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
>>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, 
>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the call. 
 Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always felt just 
 a 
 little too tall for me. Fun bike though. 

 Marty

 On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:

> That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller, 
> who runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a 
> cash-only 
> deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d be 
> surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!: 
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I am so shocked that's still available.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously 
 tempted to inquire about that Glorius. 

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about 
> Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot. 
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
>>> Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 
>>>
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn 
>>> find!”I’ve been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene 
>>> Herse 
>>> covered in cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather 
>>> than die 
>>> waiting I decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of 
>>> international eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling 
>>> and head 
>>> scratching transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my 
>>> French barn 
>>> find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find 
>>> myself 
>>> needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has 
>>> taken me 
>>> across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a 
>>> daily 
>>> driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the 
>>> juicy 
>>> detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my 
>>> profile.*
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: Screen 
>>> Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 
>>> 2022-01-28 at 8.32.28 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 
>>> 8.32.45 AM.png]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Cool Tools for Home Wrenchers

[aeroperf]

Um, machine screws tend to be fastened with a screwdriver, while bolts tend 
to have a nut and be fastened with a wrench.
This leaves open what to call a fastener that uses an allen wrench - most 
common is capscrew, but bolt is also used.

Real quick JIS explanation from a motorcycle guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpqUhIZ-EJo

The VESSEL JIS +2 screwdriver is $10 from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TG8OTY/

When I discovered JIS and bought a JIS +2 screwdriver, adjusting 
derailleurs and B-screws became a WHOLE lot easier.
And, yes, there’s a dot on their heads - you just have to look close for it.

aero (mechanical engineer) perf

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[RBW] Wheel and Light Sold

[Rich Lesnik]

The Kasai/Atlas wheel and E-Delux light have been sold.

Rich

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Sean B.]

The price on that AHH is ridiculous. You could get a brand new frame for 
cheaper. 

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-6 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> I forgot the link: 
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-58cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7449252554.html
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-8 Matt Maceda wrote:
>
>> 58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)
>>
>> "Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, 
>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the call. 
>>> Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always felt just a 
>>> little too tall for me. Fun bike though. 
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>
 That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller, 
 who runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a 
 cash-only 
 deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d be 
 surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.

 Jay Lonner
 Bellingham, WA

 Sent from my Atari 400

 On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ


 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
 On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!: 
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I am so shocked that's still available.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously 
>>> tempted to inquire about that Glorius. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about 
 Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot. 

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
>> Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn 
>> find!”I’ve been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene 
>> Herse 
>> covered in cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather 
>> than die 
>> waiting I decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of 
>> international eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling 
>> and head 
>> scratching transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my 
>> French barn 
>> find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find 
>> myself 
>> needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has 
>> taken me 
>> across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a 
>> daily 
>> driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the 
>> juicy 
>> detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my 
>> profile.*
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: Screen 
>> Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 
>> at 8.32.28 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.45 
>> AM.png]
>>
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[RBW] Schmidt E-Delux light

[Rich Lesnik]

FS: Schmidt E-Delux light. 60cm cable for fork mount, with Shimano dynamo
plug. Compatible with Shimano, Kasai, SP dynamo wheels. $125

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[RBW] Kasai/Atlas 26"/32 Wheel

[Rich Lesnik]

FS: 26" (559) 32 spoke dynamo wheel, slightly used (10mi?), polished silver
Kasai hub. $250

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[RBW] Silver2 shifters -- over the bar, or under?

[Pete B]

Hi all, I'd be curious to see how others have mounted their Silver2 
shifters on Silver mounts.

I have them on a old Trek Singletrack. I mounted them on the top. I've 
found that the mounts put the shifters quite low -- just above the 
bar/grip. A bit lower than I'd like, compared to others I've used.

I think they might be more comfortable mounted under the bar, and I've read 
that's how they do it in Walnut Creek. I haven't tried this yet. But 
eyeballing it, I think my brake lever mounts might interfere with the 
shifter's movement. I've seen the video on the Riv site, but it doesn't 
show brake levers or grips installed.

Anyone else been down this road?

Pete
Arlington, VA

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[RBW] FS: Titanium Tournesol & Icarus Disc Rando

[S. Greco]

*Prices below do not includes shipping. Send me a message for a quote. *

*Feel free to make an offer. Please note, I am not selling any of these 
parts separately.*

More photos are available here. 



*Disc Icarus - $2700 (Does not include: brakes, shifters, saddle, pedals, 
cockpit lights)*

Seattube: 58.5 center-to-center / 61.5 center-to-top

Toptube: 56.5 center-to-center

Standover: 84 with 42s as shown

Built by Ian Sutton / Icarus Frames with Richard Sachs Sachs Max lugs.

Steel with polished stainless head badge and tiny polished stainless 
feather on the fork.

Recent restoration & repaint by Chapman Cycles

Dark jeep green with red fills and gold box pin striping.

Built for 650b x 42s with fenders

Fits 650b x 48s without fenders as shown.

Tange Levin headset / Shimano bottom bracket

Front Wheel - Son Dynamo / Velocity Atlas

Rear wheel - White Ind MI5 / Velocity Atlas

Campagnolo fluted seatpost

Nitto Campee mini front rack

Campagnolo Chorus 10Spd front & rear derailleur & crankset (170)

+ 

Front & Rear Lights +$350

Paul Klampers - black anodized +$550 (Includes SP/LP/CP arms)

Paul Skewers - black anodized Front & Rear+$100

Cockpit +$300 (Nitto Pearl 8 & Nitto Noodle 46)


*Titanium Tournesol - $3700 (does not include: brakes, shifters, saddle, 
pedals, cockpit, jitensha lights)*

Seattube: 60.5 center-to-center / 63.7 center-to-top

Toptube: 58 center-to-center

Built by Steve Hampsten of Hampsten Cycles

Titanium frame with a steel fork

Datsun Blue

Fits 32s w/ fenders

Fits 35s without fenders

Cane Creek 110 Headset / Phil Wood bottom bracket

Front Wheel - White Ind MI5 laced to Pacenti PL23

Rear Wheel - White Ind MI5 laced to Pacenti PL23

Custom Hampsten front rack

Campagnolo Veloce 10Spd front & rear derailleurs

Campagnolo Victory crankset (172)

+

Jitensha Studios front & rear lights +$300

Paul Medium Racers - gold anodized +$550

Cockpit +$350 (Simworks Anna Lee stem / Nitto cable hanger / brass stem cap 
/ Nitto M137 SSB bars)

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[RBW] Re: Cool Tools for Home Wrenchers

[lconley]

The JIS is basically a Phillips with a shorter point. The are a lot of 
other detail differences, but the one that matters the most is the length 
of the tip. If you have a JIS screw, you cannot get a Phillips in deep 
enough to engage properly, and the Phillips can rotate without the screw 
and sometimes strip the head of the screw. The JIS screwdriver head will 
fit deeper into the JIS screw and turn the screw without slipping. The JIS 
screwdriver generally fits better in a Phillips screw than a Phillips 
screwdriver in a JIS screw. There is an even pointier version called a Reed 
or Reed and Prince screwdriver that has the same problem in a Phillips 
screw that a Phillips screwdriver has in JIS screw. A Reed and Prince 
screwdriver doesn't work at all in a JIS screw.

Laing
Don't ask me about the difference between machine screws and bolts

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 12:11:57 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> What's different about the way that screwdriver is made that makes it work 
> better than run-of-the-mill tools?  I can't see enough details from that 
> Rivbike photo.
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 8:54:59 AM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you John for sharing. I recently changed the bearings in one of my 
>> WI hubs using a home made tool which worked, but was not optimal. I can see 
>> the value in this one and will order it.
>>
>> I don't know if others have tried the Hozan JIS 2 screwdriver which Riv 
>> sells, but I have and it's rather amazing at how well it works compared to 
>> a std Phillips head screwdriver. After all those years of the wrong tool 
>> slipping and not really working to finally using a tool designed for the 
>> job is certainly satisfying. Well worth the $20.
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-tool-park-multi-tool-mt-1?_pos=7&_sid=b92c34749&_ss=r
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 1:30:35 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> A close second to riding bikes is the joy I find in working with tools 
>>> of all sorts. This is one of the more effable qualities that make bikes so 
>>> cool: you can ride them AND wrench them. From an early age, my father 
>>> instilled in me the great pleasure that can be had in finding 'the right 
>>> tool for the job.' I've made a handful of tools that work fine, but to use 
>>> a tool well-made and for the purpose can be a real treat. 
>>>
>>> To wit, I recently acquired a bearing extractor and press that I used to 
>>> replace the bearings on my White hub. I'm not sure what such a procedure 
>>> would cost in a shop, but I'd be hard-pressed to put a price on the 
>>> satisfaction that comes from playing with cool tools and tinkering with 
>>> bicycles in my own workshop. With these nice (and inexpensive) tools, 
>>> replacing bearings (a first for me) was smooth, fun, and easy.
>>> [image: bearingtools.jpg]
>>> Incidentally, these came from bearingprotools in the UK.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Cool Tools for Home Wrenchers

[George Schick]

What's different about the way that screwdriver is made that makes it work 
better than run-of-the-mill tools?  I can't see enough details from that 
Rivbike photo.


On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 8:54:59 AM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:

> Thank you John for sharing. I recently changed the bearings in one of my 
> WI hubs using a home made tool which worked, but was not optimal. I can see 
> the value in this one and will order it.
>
> I don't know if others have tried the Hozan JIS 2 screwdriver which Riv 
> sells, but I have and it's rather amazing at how well it works compared to 
> a std Phillips head screwdriver. After all those years of the wrong tool 
> slipping and not really working to finally using a tool designed for the 
> job is certainly satisfying. Well worth the $20.
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-tool-park-multi-tool-mt-1?_pos=7&_sid=b92c34749&_ss=r
>
> JohnS
>
> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 1:30:35 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> A close second to riding bikes is the joy I find in working with tools of 
>> all sorts. This is one of the more effable qualities that make bikes so 
>> cool: you can ride them AND wrench them. From an early age, my father 
>> instilled in me the great pleasure that can be had in finding 'the right 
>> tool for the job.' I've made a handful of tools that work fine, but to use 
>> a tool well-made and for the purpose can be a real treat. 
>>
>> To wit, I recently acquired a bearing extractor and press that I used to 
>> replace the bearings on my White hub. I'm not sure what such a procedure 
>> would cost in a shop, but I'd be hard-pressed to put a price on the 
>> satisfaction that comes from playing with cool tools and tinkering with 
>> bicycles in my own workshop. With these nice (and inexpensive) tools, 
>> replacing bearings (a first for me) was smooth, fun, and easy.
>> [image: bearingtools.jpg]
>> Incidentally, these came from bearingprotools in the UK.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Everglades

[Andrew Wentzell]

Hi Laing,

Hey, that's my backyard. :)

I'm just a bit north of you, and I ride this trail pretty frequently. There 
are a few other entrances (for bikes and hikers) other than the refuge 
headquarters - north of it, there's a gate that connects you to a dirt road 
in the southern reaches of Wellington. If you head south, there's the 
Loxahatchee boat ramp (and more, I think the levee trails will take you all 
the way down into Miami/Homestead). You can also loop all the way around 
the refuge, for a total of about 75 miles.

The alligators are mostly dormant right now with the cooler weather, but I 
think you'll start seeing them more soon. There are deer out here, too, 
usually in the morning foraging in pairs. I realize deer aren't noteworthy 
in the rest of the country, but I had never seen a single one down here at 
all until I started riding on these type of trails, and now I see them 
about once a month on my rides. Sometimes when they see me, they run off in 
the direction the trail, and I try to keep up.

Our scenery definitely doesn't have the visual impact of, say, the Rockies, 
but one thing to appreciate about the Everglades is that it's a totally 
unique ecosystem, and so much of it has been destroyed. Riding here, just a 
few minutes from modern developed suburbia, you can still get a little 
glimpse into what Florida used to be. Plus, like you mentioned, it's much 
lower-stress than the road riding we have.

There are other trails like this you can visit in the area. I've found the 
heat maps from Ride with GPS and Strava (https://ridewithgps.com/heatmap 
and https://ridewithgps.com/heatmap, respectively) really helpful to see 
what's accessible to bikes, and what connects to what, based on where other 
people are riding.

- Andrew

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 10:22:59 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I haven't been riding a whole lot since I moved to south Florida as the 
> roads are kind of crowded with people that don't pay a lot of attention to 
> what they are doing. Most of my riding had been on the El Rio Trail 
> commuting to work. So I did some research. I live in Delray Beach, which is 
> the "thinnest" part of the populated part of south Florida. The beach is 
> four miles due east and the Everglades starts seven miles due west. Three 
> miles north of that is the Arthur R Marshall Loxahatchee National Wildlife 
> Refuge. It turns out that there is a path on top of the dike at the edge of 
> the Everglades. I have a Lifetime Senior Pass for National Parks, etc., so 
> yesterday I decided to to put my Mystery Bike in the back of the Element to 
> go see what I could see.
>
> [image: EGs.jpg]
>
> I guess this qualifies as gravel. No cars other than one park truck, just 
> a few pedestrians, occasional kitted-out bikers on a carbon fiber gravel 
> bikes, a few people on Walmart mountain bikes, the occasional small boat in 
> the canal, and an airplane doing acrobatics over head. Zero elevation 
> change. Not a lot of change in the view, but very quiet when the airplane 
> wasn't around - low stress riding. Didn't see any alligators, but they are 
> out there. I will be back for longer rides (with a water bottle). This 
> trail goes north and south for many miles - I think it is 40+ miles in 
> total.
> The single speed Mystery bike on 29x2 Big Bens is about perfect for this. 
> I do need to transfer some Ergon grips onto it from another bike. The 
> Rustines grips just don't cut it.
>
> [image: EG2s.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>

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[RBW] Re: Cool Tools for Home Wrenchers

[JohnS]

Thank you John for sharing. I recently changed the bearings in one of my WI 
hubs using a home made tool which worked, but was not optimal. I can see 
the value in this one and will order it.

I don't know if others have tried the Hozan JIS 2 screwdriver which Riv 
sells, but I have and it's rather amazing at how well it works compared to 
a std Phillips head screwdriver. After all those years of the wrong tool 
slipping and not really working to finally using a tool designed for the 
job is certainly satisfying. Well worth the $20.

https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-tool-park-multi-tool-mt-1?_pos=7&_sid=b92c34749&_ss=r

JohnS

On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 1:30:35 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> A close second to riding bikes is the joy I find in working with tools of 
> all sorts. This is one of the more effable qualities that make bikes so 
> cool: you can ride them AND wrench them. From an early age, my father 
> instilled in me the great pleasure that can be had in finding 'the right 
> tool for the job.' I've made a handful of tools that work fine, but to use 
> a tool well-made and for the purpose can be a real treat. 
>
> To wit, I recently acquired a bearing extractor and press that I used to 
> replace the bearings on my White hub. I'm not sure what such a procedure 
> would cost in a shop, but I'd be hard-pressed to put a price on the 
> satisfaction that comes from playing with cool tools and tinkering with 
> bicycles in my own workshop. With these nice (and inexpensive) tools, 
> replacing bearings (a first for me) was smooth, fun, and easy.
> [image: bearingtools.jpg]
> Incidentally, these came from bearingprotools in the UK.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>

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