[RBW] Re: Pigeonholed in Bicycle Philosophy

[John Bokman]

Gorgeous Rich! What are those brakes if I may ask?

John 
Portland OR

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> Andy, that's an enviable and enjoyable album. Johnny is really nice and 
> his tucked away atelier is a steel art and craft happening. Not well 
> documented but here is my thing in its final "happened" state. Riv content: 
> it's what got me pigeonholed here:-)
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:48:44 PM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> An album of the thing happening: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/PxJUkK7TtCQSdk2A7
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 1:00:15 PM UTC-5 J. W. wrote:
>>
>>> Lovely post Andy. You wrote:
>>>
>>> The conclusions that I have found and my riding objectives shaped the 
 bike I had made for me and those objective needs. I took 20 years of 
 almost 
 there, but have it nailed now. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I am new here so I haven't seen it if you've posted it before--can you 
>>> post a picture of this bike? Thanks! Jon in Montreal
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Jon Dukeman]

That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!


On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>
> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished
> the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and
> did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map
> Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Howdy Atlantis Folks,

Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished 
the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and 
did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map 
Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW

Hugh

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Where to buy? Phil Wood grease gun, portable/small version

[MCT]

avt.bike has them for sale.

https://avt.bike/collections/phil-wood/products/phil-wood-portable-grease-gun-set

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 6:36:43 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Phil is out of stock. Does anyone have a lead on where I can purchase one?
>
> Used and functional is fine by me :) 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-03-11 at 7.35.24 PM.png]
>

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Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

[Johnny Alien]

I love both of these builds. I can imagine the Albatross work well. I 
enjoyed running Billie bars on mine.
On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:39:14 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Very nice Abe! I can believe it on the climbing - the long rear end makes 
> a world of a difference for climbing, I find! 
>
> Not much has changed on mine since I last posted it - the Albatross bars 
> feel perfect on this bike for me, even though it's suited to drops or 
> moustache bars. Granted, I'm using it a bit differently than intended too. 
> I've put a used dynamo front wheel on and am embracing the mismatched 
> wheels. Here's a pic of it on my way to donate some excess tires and parts 
> to the local non-profit bike shop today. No plans to change a thing! I'll 
> put some RH Barlow Pass endurance on eventually, but I want to wear these 
> out first 
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 4:44 PM Pancake  wrote:
>
>> Here's my 57cm prototype Charlie update and build:
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/DUpFlP27OE4/m/HZb6bU5XBAAJ
>> [image: IMG_3522.jpg][image: IMG_3550.jpg][image: IMG_3551.jpg][image: 
>> IMG_3556.jpg]
>> More pics here:  https://imgur.com/a/RiI8NN4
>>
>> My friend caught this 57cm Charlie prototype for me a few weeks ago - my 
>> ideal Riv since I want v-brakes (that my Sam and Cheviot lack). Sadly, this 
>> will end up replacing my Sam, but what a replacement! Vs. Sam: No more toe 
>> clip overlap, more chainstay length, climbs better (this surprised me), and 
>> more comfortable (for me at least). 
>>
>> I swapped nearly everything from my Hillborne onto the Charlie (and vice 
>> versa):
>> Frame - Charlie H Gallop 57cm prototype with canti posts
>> Wheelset - VO Voyager rims, DT Swiss Competition (double butted) spokes, 
>> SP (Shutter Precision) PV-8 dynamo hub in front, Bitex rear hub, Salsa 
>> skewers
>> Stem - Nitto technomic 70mm (IIRC)
>> Handlebars – Soma Portola (52cm wide at bar ends, 48cm at hoods)
>> Brake levers – TRP RRL 
>> Brakes - rear CX70 canti, front Shimano BR-R353 (will replace with Tektro 
>> 926al which has 85mm arms vs 90mm on the Shimanos ... they work well but 
>> the levers don't quite pull enough to feel right with the long arms). 
>> Koolstop e-brake pads in front. 
>> Handlbar tape - will replace random rainbow stuff with Newbaums some day.
>> Seatpost - Nitto S83
>> Seat - Brooks Flyer (but may replace with B17s or C19)
>> Crankset - Sugino clipper triple 26/36/46 ... will replace with VO 46/30 
>> double
>> Cassette – Suntour 11-40t 9 speed
>> Front derailleur – Riv put on a Blue Line, it is JUST enough range to 
>> shift to the tallest chainring, but only just.
>> Rear derailer - nexus rapid rise, it doesn't have quite enough spring 
>> tension with this setup to keep from skipping under hard pedaling, I'll try 
>> the XT rapid rise and hope that works better like it did on the Sam.
>> Pedals – Kona Wah Wah - 118mm x 120mm
>> Tires – Schwalbe G-One Allround 700 x 50mm
>> Lights - IQ-XS in front and Secula in back
>>
>> Abe
>>
>> On Thursday, 17 February 2022 at 19:57:32 UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I had the same issue with the stem but didn't attribute it to being a 
>>> prototype.  I can't use taller stems at all because they just don't go down 
>>> deep enough. Is that not the case with standard Riv's?
>>>
>>> I used Billie's and really enjoyed it.  It's clear that the frame was 
>>> built for sweptbacks.
>>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:38:28 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Update - put on the Albatross bars. One kind of annoying nuance to this 
 prototype frame is that they didn't ream the steerer as deep as they do 
 for 
 their production bikes, so I can't get the stem quite as low as I wanted, 
 but it's close enough that it doesn't warrant buying a new stem. That 
 said, 
 I am actually quite floored by how much the Albatross brought this bike to 
 life for what I want from it.  I've run these bars on a few bikes but this 
 is the best they've felt on any bike for me. It's feeling very right to me 
 now. I know it's meant to be a roadish bike but I'd sooner put drops on a 
 Homer or Hillborne; to me this bike suits the Albatross so perfectly.  



 On Tuesday, 15 February 2022 at 19:46:08 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Photo from today's lunchtime loop. I will be performing a bar/stem 
> swap between this bike and the Bombadil (which is 11cm Tallux and 
> Albatross) as well as cabling etc, then I believe the bike is "done" for 
> a 
> bit. Oh, and a cheap dynamo front wheel because a commuter must have 
> dynamo 
> in my books. 
>
> As much as I would not pick these tires for myself, I must admit 
> they're pretty well suited to my needs (daily commuting and general 
> getting 
> around on pavement and hardpack paths) so I am going to do my best to 
> leave 
> them well enough alone. I was quite pleased to see they clear 

[RBW] Re: FS 1.5 Riv Sweaters and some hats

[Bones]

RBW hat has been claimed.

Bones

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 2:46:14 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> All items including shipping CONUS.
>
> Tragically, my new size large William and Ringo sweater from Riv's last 
> batch found it's way into the wash and is now even smaller than a medium. 
> It was worn once, and I will sell it for about half off (let's say $65 
> shipped).
>
> I also have a brand new never worn medium William and Ringo sweater. I 
> would like what I paid for it plus shipping ($120 shipped).
>
> A Blue Lug RBW cycle cap in coyote. Brand new; too large for my tiny head 
> ($60 shipped)
>
> A Blue Lug Work Hat in grey... also brand new and too large for me ($60 
> shipped)
>
> Thanks for looking!
> Bones
>

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[RBW] Re: The Whimsical Illustrations of Uncle Rinne

[MoVelo]

Awesome John. Thanks for sharing.

jp

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 6:39:41 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> A recent Bikepacking 
>  profile on 
> Tetsuro Ohno highlights his 'Uncle Rinne' character. Many of his 
> illustrations seem to align well with The Way of the Riv.
>
> The Japanese concept of 'rinne', when applied to the bicycle, is 
> particularly poignant, in my view. 
>
> Cheers, 
> John
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-03-13 at 9.37.51.png]
>

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[RBW] FS: dynamo wheelset and 53cm Calfee S frameset

[lukeheller]

Calfee Luna Pro
Effective toptube is 53cm
Actual toptube is 52cm
Serial # 50LP0948
Had it built with 700x25; should clear 700x28 no problem but don't have the 
tires to prove it.
Typical nicks in the clearcoat as expected with a travel frame.
No damage and overall in great condition.
Includes: travel case, coupler wrench headset, x1 ritchey cable breaker, 
seat collar and Bontrager carbon seatpost if you'd like it.

Pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kd3fYRfKDU54mXq96
Price: $1,100 net, buyer pays shipping or pickup in DC area

Wheelset:
rims: DT Swiss RR441
nipples: brass (one wheel black nipples, the other silver)
spokes: 14/15g DT Competition Stainless BLACK spokes
front hub: SON 28 12 Centre Lock Disc Dynamo Front Hub
rear hub:  DT Swiss 240, shimano 10speed
The front wheel has both rim braking surface and shimano Centerlock disc 
rotor capability so you could use this wheel on both rim brake or disc 
brake.
The wheels have just over 2k miles according to Strava; the front wheel was 
additionally used as a disc wheel on PBP 2019 so add 750m.
Skewers included.
Price: $700 net, buyer pays shipping or pickup in DC area
Will toss in a B IQX and Secula Plus taillight for an additional $50.
front wheel pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/K9wHeRd7ku8zk5Rx8
rear wheel pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/3oXAzzUjfJ9EHjmE9

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Bleriot

[Benjamin Park]

one more thing to note, check the geo specs. While this is a 61cm, the TT 
is relatively short, at 59cm, so it fits more like a 59. At least for me.

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 4:24:17 PM UTC-5 Benjamin Park wrote:

> More pictures
> [image: IMG_1369.jpeg][image: IMG_1367.jpeg][image: IMG_1366.jpeg]
>
>

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[RBW] Just shy of 45 lb

[Patrick Moore]

I carried 44.2 lb home from Sprout's just now in 2 Ortlieb Backrollers on a
ss Tubus Fly modified by Steven Bilenky for the 2020 Matthews (geometrical
clone of 2003 Curt Riv Custom). I usually like to cut it off at about 35
lb, but the thinnish-wall, normal gauge 531 frame handled it with aplomb.

My max was 45 even on a possibly even lighter 531 frame, that Motobecane.

Really must start adding the Sports Packers in front when I expect this
much stuff, even tho' haven't yet had bottom tabs added to the low riders
-- Can't locate David Salinas local brazer and hoping my brother will buy
torch and gas this summer.

And that was the big event of my day -- a big loop of a detour to make a
shopping trip an excursion on a pretty early spring day, mid-50s, light
breeze, sunny.

-- 

---
Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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[RBW] ISO/WTB: Albatross bars, DA barend shifters, Simworks stem...

[Todd G]

Looking for a few items for a couple different builds. 

- Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
- Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
Albatross bars)
- Dura Ace 9 speed bar-end shifters
- Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished

If you have any of this stuff shoot me an message, thanks!

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[RBW] FS: 54 MUSA Hunqapillar

[Brendan Willard in SF]

I love this bike 
,
 
but it's spending too much time in the shed, it's a hair too small for me, 
andI need to give Mike Varley all my money.

I'm thinking $3200 net to me with all the fancy bits that are pictured.  
The frame is near perfect and I have the original purchase receipt.  Most 
parts are like new.

I will also consider f/f/hs or partial build.

I'd prefer a local sale, but could ship.

Paul Components - Motolites, Love Levers, Tall and Handsome SP
White industries - ST Crankset, ti BB
SLX  shifter and RD
Nitto - Bullmoose bars, Mark's Rack
Rich built Shimano Dynamo/LX to Velocity Dyads, White Schwalbe Big Bens.
Schmidt Edelux II Headlight
Brooks B17 (or -$50)


I will get some pics up today

Cheers!

Brendan in SF

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[RBW] ISO/WTB Crust Orthopedic Back Bar

[Hugh Smitham]

Figure it's a long shot but thought maybe someone who was fortunate enough 
to get one of these bars has decided they aren't for them or maybe decided 
not to use them after all? If so I'd like to give em a try. Hit me me up 
with a dm if you want to move wm along.

Hugh
Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Gorgeous!  I love the Rene Herse tires.  congrats, #RivSister
Kate

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:50:22 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow! I just looked up those stock Kenda tires - the ones on the Clem 
> completes. They are nearly 1000 grams each! Now I understand the weight 
> loss.:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 11:32 AM, JAS  wrote:
>
> Oops! Sorry I forgot to include rim info...yes, they're Cliffhanger 
> rims.  Thank you all your comments; it's nice to have your feedback and 
> kind thoughts.  
>
>
> The change is noticeable and like Leah, I recognize that the Clem is 
> always going to be relatively heavy compared to my Platy.  It's such a 
> terrific bike for dirt paths, exploring new roads, getting groceries and 
> tackling the stupid, huge gravel somebody in the county office thought was 
> such a good idea to spread on one of my favorite trails.  I can bash 
> through there with Clem and not think twice about whether the bike or tires 
> or wheels (or I?) can handle it.  I had to "tip toe" over it with 
> Platy...riding gingerly and getting tossed about.  Clem is no brawler, but 
> with the new shoes I can just go for it and hang on.  It's thrilling, 
> really.
>
> Ride on #RivSisters and #RivBrothers!
>
> --Joyce
>
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:05:51 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> The tires and light tubes alone would make a big difference in ride 
>> quality (from what I have expereienced)
>>
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:00:14 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am just so curious about this. Stock Atlas rims are 590 grams each. 
>>> Cliffhanger is 625 grams! So perhaps your new rims are something else?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>>
>>> Beautiful clem and wheel build - congrats! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:24:27 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my 
 Clem which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are 
 bulletproof but they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of 
 rotational weight on this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires 
 which by themselves look to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention 
 that my wheels have 36 spokes front & rear.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 Nice, Joyce!


 I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had 
 before and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like 
 Cliffhangers. 

 The bike looks great :) 

 On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Deore hubs but which rims?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a 
> lot but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great 
> but 
> is made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, 
> ever part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with 
> front and rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I 
> can absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid 
> bike is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be 
> stout, but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels 
> heavy. You know what I mean?
>
>
> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and 
> then and let us know how you’re getting on.
> Love,
> L
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to 
>> stop me riding” tires.  
>>
>>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my 
>> wheels and tires. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>>
>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on 
>>> how to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, 
>>> I 
>>> *finally* got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
>>> difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
>>> bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
>>> trail/road condition.  
>>>
>>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer 
>>> the phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him 
>>> build 
>>> the wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore 
>>> hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance 
>>> casing, 
>>> and Schwalbe 

[RBW] Re: FS: New ReneHERSE 700x42 Hurricane Ridge Tires

[Frank Brose]

Sent you a message.I'll take them.

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:53:58 AM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:

> Hello, Yesterday I receive a new Rivendell Homer Hilsen complete with 
> ReneHERSE 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires (Knobbystache). After a 5 mile bike 
> path ride I really liked these tires but with this bicycle being my "road 
> bike" I decided to go with Schwalbe 700x42 Little Big Bens. "fast pavement 
> to deep mud or snow"- ReneHERSE website. Retail $156/pair + shipping.  
> Asking $100 + shipping. Thanks. More pictures available.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Richard Rose]

Wow! I just looked up those stock Kenda tires - the ones on the Clem completes. 
They are nearly 1000 grams each! Now I understand the weight loss.:)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 11:32 AM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> Oops! Sorry I forgot to include rim info...yes, they're Cliffhanger rims.  
> Thank you all your comments; it's nice to have your feedback and kind 
> thoughts.  
> 
> The change is noticeable and like Leah, I recognize that the Clem is always 
> going to be relatively heavy compared to my Platy.  It's such a terrific bike 
> for dirt paths, exploring new roads, getting groceries and tackling the 
> stupid, huge gravel somebody in the county office thought was such a good 
> idea to spread on one of my favorite trails.  I can bash through there with 
> Clem and not think twice about whether the bike or tires or wheels (or I?) 
> can handle it.  I had to "tip toe" over it with Platy...riding gingerly and 
> getting tossed about.  Clem is no brawler, but with the new shoes I can just 
> go for it and hang on.  It's thrilling, really.
> 
> Ride on #RivSisters and #RivBrothers!
> 
> --Joyce
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:05:51 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>> The tires and light tubes alone would make a big difference in ride quality 
>> (from what I have expereienced)
>> 
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:00:14 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I am just so curious about this. Stock Atlas rims are 590 grams each. 
>>> Cliffhanger is 625 grams! So perhaps your new rims are something else?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
> 
 Beautiful clem and wheel build - congrats! 
>>> 
 
 
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:24:27 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
> It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my 
> Clem which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are 
> bulletproof but they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of 
> rotational weight on this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires 
> which by themselves look to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention 
> that my wheels have 36 spokes front & rear.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>> 
>> Nice, Joyce!
> 
>> 
>> I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had 
>> before and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like 
>> Cliffhangers. 
>> 
>> The bike looks great :) 
>> 
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>> Deore hubs but which rims?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
 I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a 
 lot but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is 
 great but is made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I 
 will never, ever part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one 
 is set up with front and rear racks while the other only has a 
 lightweight rear rack. I can absolutely feel the weight difference. I 
 don’t mind that the mermaid bike is heavy because it’s an 
 errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be stout, but it is a 
 different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. You know 
 what I mean?
>>> 
 
 At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and 
 then and let us know how you’re getting on.
 Love,
 L
 
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to 
>> stop me riding” tires.  
>> 
>>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my 
>> wheels and tires. 
>> 
>> Roberta 
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on 
>>> how to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this 
>>> group, I finally got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, 
>>> what a difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a 
>>> more agile bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about 
>>> any other trail/road condition.  
>>> 
>>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to 
>>> answer the phone.  We discussed several possibilities including 
>>> having him build the wheels, but then recommended the 
>>> Velocity-built wheels with Deore hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper 
>>> Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, and Schwalbe ultralight 

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[JAS]

Oops! Sorry I forgot to include rim info...yes, they're Cliffhanger rims.  
Thank you all your comments; it's nice to have your feedback and kind 
thoughts.  

The change is noticeable and like Leah, I recognize that the Clem is always 
going to be relatively heavy compared to my Platy.  It's such a terrific 
bike for dirt paths, exploring new roads, getting groceries and tackling 
the stupid, huge gravel somebody in the county office thought was such a 
good idea to spread on one of my favorite trails.  I can bash through there 
with Clem and not think twice about whether the bike or tires or wheels (or 
I?) can handle it.  I had to "tip toe" over it with Platy...riding gingerly 
and getting tossed about.  Clem is no brawler, but with the new shoes I can 
just go for it and hang on.  It's thrilling, really.

Ride on #RivSisters and #RivBrothers!

--Joyce


On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:05:51 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The tires and light tubes alone would make a big difference in ride 
> quality (from what I have expereienced)
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:00:14 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am just so curious about this. Stock Atlas rims are 590 grams each. 
>> Cliffhanger is 625 grams! So perhaps your new rims are something else?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>
>> Beautiful clem and wheel build - congrats! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:24:27 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my 
>>> Clem which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are 
>>> bulletproof but they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of 
>>> rotational weight on this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires 
>>> which by themselves look to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention 
>>> that my wheels have 36 spokes front & rear.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice, Joyce!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had 
>>> before and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like 
>>> Cliffhangers. 
>>>
>>> The bike looks great :) 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Deore hubs but which rims?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot 
 but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but is 
 made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, ever 
 part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with front 
 and rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I can 
 absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid bike 
 is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be 
 stout, 
 but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. 
 You know what I mean?


 At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then 
 and let us know how you’re getting on.
 Love,
 L

 On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to 
> stop me riding” tires.  
>
>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my 
> wheels and tires. 
>
> Roberta 
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>
>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on 
>> how to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I 
>> *finally* got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
>> difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
>> bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
>> trail/road condition.  
>>
>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer 
>> the phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him 
>> build 
>> the wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore 
>> hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, 
>> and Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set up.  Now 
>> it's 
>> going to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check my handiwork on 
>> the rear derailleur setting.
>>
>> Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom 
>> photo for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> [image: ClemIMG_0338.jpg]
>>
>> [image: ClemtireIMG_0340.jpg]
>>
>> [image: Clem_0341.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Johnny Alien]

The tires and light tubes alone would make a big difference in ride quality 
(from what I have expereienced)

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:00:14 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am just so curious about this. Stock Atlas rims are 590 grams each. 
> Cliffhanger is 625 grams! So perhaps your new rims are something else?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>
> Beautiful clem and wheel build - congrats! 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:24:27 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my 
>> Clem which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are 
>> bulletproof but they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of 
>> rotational weight on this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires 
>> which by themselves look to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention 
>> that my wheels have 36 spokes front & rear.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Nice, Joyce!
>>
>>
>> I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had 
>> before and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like 
>> Cliffhangers. 
>>
>> The bike looks great :) 
>>
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Deore hubs but which rims?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot 
>>> but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but is 
>>> made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, ever 
>>> part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with front 
>>> and rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I can 
>>> absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid bike 
>>> is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be stout, 
>>> but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. 
>>> You know what I mean?
>>>
>>>
>>> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then 
>>> and let us know how you’re getting on.
>>> Love,
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to 
 stop me riding” tires.  

  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my 
 wheels and tires. 

 Roberta 

 On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:

> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on how 
> to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I 
> *finally* got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
> difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
> bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
> trail/road condition.  
>
> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer 
> the phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him build 
> the wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore 
> hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, 
> and Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set up.  Now it's 
> going to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check my handiwork on 
> the rear derailleur setting.
>
> Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom 
> photo for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!
>
> --Joyce
>
> [image: ClemIMG_0338.jpg]
>
> [image: ClemtireIMG_0340.jpg]
>
> [image: Clem_0341.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Richard Rose]

I am just so curious about this. Stock Atlas rims are 590 grams each. 
Cliffhanger is 625 grams! So perhaps your new rims are something else?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
> 
> Beautiful clem and wheel build - congrats! 
> 
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:24:27 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>> It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my Clem 
>> which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are bulletproof but 
>> they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of rotational weight 
>> on this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires which by themselves 
>> look to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention that my wheels have 36 
>> spokes front & rear.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
 
>>> Nice, Joyce!
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had before 
>>> and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like Cliffhangers. 
>>> 
>>> The bike looks great :) 
>>> 
 On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Deore hubs but which rims?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot 
> but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but 
> is made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, 
> ever part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with 
> front and rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I 
> can absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid 
> bike is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be 
> stout, but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels 
> heavy. You know what I mean?
 
> 
> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then 
> and let us know how you’re getting on.
> Love,
> L
> 
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to 
>>> stop me riding” tires.  
>>> 
>>>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my 
>>> wheels and tires. 
>>> 
>>> Roberta 
>>> 
 On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
 You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on how 
 to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I 
 finally got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
 difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more 
 agile bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any 
 other trail/road condition.  
 
 I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer 
 the phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him 
 build the wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with 
 Deore hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance 
 casing, and Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set 
 up.  Now it's going to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check 
 my handiwork on the rear derailleur setting.
 
 Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom 
 photo for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!
 
 --Joyce
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[RBW] Swift Sugarloaf Basket Bag

[Sofie C]

Selling my custom mulberry sugarloaf basket bag from swift industries -- 
only because I'm not using a Wald 137 basket anymore. It's in like new 
condition and has a nifty fox patch. $165 shipped in the U.S. via friends 
and family PayPal or Venmo please. I'll ship anywhere outside the U.S. at 
cost.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Sofie C]

Beautiful clem and wheel build - congrats! 

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:24:27 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my Clem 
> which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are bulletproof but 
> they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of rotational weight 
> on this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires which by themselves 
> look to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention that my wheels have 
> 36 spokes front & rear.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Nice, Joyce!
>
>
> I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had before 
> and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like Cliffhangers. 
>
> The bike looks great :) 
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Deore hubs but which rims?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot 
>> but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but is 
>> made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, ever 
>> part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with front 
>> and rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I can 
>> absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid bike 
>> is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be stout, 
>> but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. 
>> You know what I mean?
>>
>>
>> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then 
>> and let us know how you’re getting on.
>> Love,
>> L
>>
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to stop 
>>> me riding” tires.  
>>>
>>>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my wheels 
>>> and tires. 
>>>
>>> Roberta 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>
 You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on how 
 to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I 
 *finally* got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
 difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
 bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
 trail/road condition.  

 I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer 
 the phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him build 
 the wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore 
 hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, 
 and Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set up.  Now it's 
 going to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check my handiwork on 
 the rear derailleur setting.

 Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom 
 photo for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!

 --Joyce

 [image: ClemIMG_0338.jpg]

 [image: ClemtireIMG_0340.jpg]

 [image: Clem_0341.jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Richard Rose]

It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my Clem 
which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are bulletproof but 
they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of rotational weight on 
this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires which by themselves look 
to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention that my wheels have 36 spokes 
front & rear.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Nice, Joyce!
> 
> I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had before 
> and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like Cliffhangers. 
> 
> The bike looks great :) 
> 
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Deore hubs but which rims?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
  wrote:
 
>>> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot but 
>>> it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but is made 
>>> greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, ever part 
>>> with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with front and 
>>> rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I can 
>>> absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid bike 
>>> is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be stout, 
>>> but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. 
>>> You know what I mean?
>> 
>>> 
>>> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then and 
>>> let us know how you’re getting on.
>>> Love,
>>> L
>>> 
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to stop 
> me riding” tires.  
> 
>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my wheels 
> and tires. 
> 
> Roberta 
> 
>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on how 
>> to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I 
>> finally got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
>> difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
>> bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
>> trail/road condition.  
>> 
>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer the 
>> phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him build 
>> the wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore 
>> hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, 
>> and Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set up.  Now 
>> it's going to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check my 
>> handiwork on the rear derailleur setting.
>> 
>> Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom 
>> photo for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!
>> 
>> --Joyce
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Eric Marth]

Nice, Joyce!

I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had before 
and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like Cliffhangers. 

The bike looks great :) 

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Deore hubs but which rims?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot 
> but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but is 
> made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, ever 
> part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with front 
> and rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I can 
> absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid bike 
> is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be stout, 
> but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. 
> You know what I mean?
>
>
> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then 
> and let us know how you’re getting on.
> Love,
> L
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to stop 
>> me riding” tires.  
>>
>>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my wheels 
>> and tires. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>>
>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on how 
>>> to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I 
>>> *finally* got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
>>> difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
>>> bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
>>> trail/road condition.  
>>>
>>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer the 
>>> phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him build the 
>>> wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore hubs.  I 
>>> ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, and 
>>> Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set up.  Now it's going 
>>> to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check my handiwork on the rear 
>>> derailleur setting.
>>>
>>> Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom 
>>> photo for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!
>>>
>>> --Joyce
>>>
>>> [image: ClemIMG_0338.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: ClemtireIMG_0340.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: Clem_0341.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Richard Rose]

Deore hubs but which rims?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot but 
> it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but is made 
> greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, ever part 
> with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with front and rear 
> racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I can absolutely feel 
> the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid bike is heavy because 
> it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be stout, but it is a 
> different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. You know what I 
> mean?
> 
> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then and 
> let us know how you’re getting on.
> Love,
> L
> 
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to stop me 
>> riding” tires.  
>> 
>>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my wheels and 
>> tires. 
>> 
>> Roberta 
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on how to 
>>> lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I finally 
>>> got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a difference!  Clem 
>>> lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile bike with tires that 
>>> will handle the mud and just about any other trail/road condition.  
>>> 
>>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer the 
>>> phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him build the 
>>> wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore hubs.  I 
>>> ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, and 
>>> Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set up.  Now it's going 
>>> to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check my handiwork on the rear 
>>> derailleur setting.
>>> 
>>> Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom photo 
>>> for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!
>>> 
>>> --Joyce
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a lot but 
it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great but is made 
greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, ever part 
with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with front and 
rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I can 
absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid bike 
is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be stout, 
but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels heavy. 
You know what I mean?

At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and then and 
let us know how you’re getting on.
Love,
L

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to stop 
> me riding” tires.  
>
>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my wheels 
> and tires. 
>
> Roberta 
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>
>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on how to 
>> lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, I 
>> *finally* got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
>> difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
>> bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
>> trail/road condition.  
>>
>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer the 
>> phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him build the 
>> wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore hubs.  I 
>> ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance casing, and 
>> Schwalbe ultralight tubes.  I'm very happy with the set up.  Now it's going 
>> to the bike shop for brake adjustment and to check my handiwork on the rear 
>> derailleur setting.
>>
>> Some photos from a quick run to the grocery story including a blossom 
>> photo for Leah...spring is coming but it's still chilly around here!
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> [image: ClemIMG_0338.jpg]
>>
>> [image: ClemtireIMG_0340.jpg]
>>
>> [image: Clem_0341.jpg]
>>
>>

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