[RBW] Re: Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

[Joe Bernard]

I've become fascinated at how long this thread can go without anyone 
actually specifying the size of the frame in question. Maybe we'll never 
know! 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:43:49 PM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Nick-
> I could be interested in an outright sale.  To be sure, your Atlantis is a 
> 55? The 55's sold out in less than 6 minutes yesterday If I'm not 
> mistaken...Do you have photos? 
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-6 nickm...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Open to an outright sale also. Riv has a homer in stock. Anybody 
>> interested in buying the frame fork and headset for 1000.00? Got a new fork 
>> from Riv because a canti stud busted off. Has a small paint blem on the 
>> crown. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 2:39:37 PM UTC-7 N Mehring wrote:
>>
>>> Wonderful bike! I'd have to sell mine first! but yes something along 
>>> those lines
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:56:16 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Hi Nick, 

 I listed my (old short chain stay geo) Sam 58 a few days ago - it's 
 still up for sale: 
 https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/T1BxuItl5W8/m/4U7L6p4_BQAJ
  

 Please let me know if you're interested in it... unfortunately your 
 Atlantis is too small for me, so it would only work if you find a buyer 
 for 
 it.

 Max 

 On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:26:22 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> We need the size of your frame and what you're trying to trade up to. 
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-7 nickm...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but 
>> think I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to 
>> upsize. 
>> Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size 
>> than 
>> 55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
>> benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

[Christian B-H]

Hey Nick-
I could be interested in an outright sale.  To be sure, your Atlantis is a 
55? The 55's sold out in less than 6 minutes yesterday If I'm not 
mistaken...Do you have photos? 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 6:16:36 PM UTC-6 nickm...@me.com wrote:

> Open to an outright sale also. Riv has a homer in stock. Anybody 
> interested in buying the frame fork and headset for 1000.00? Got a new fork 
> from Riv because a canti stud busted off. Has a small paint blem on the 
> crown. 
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 2:39:37 PM UTC-7 N Mehring wrote:
>
>> Wonderful bike! I'd have to sell mine first! but yes something along 
>> those lines
>>
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:56:16 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nick, 
>>>
>>> I listed my (old short chain stay geo) Sam 58 a few days ago - it's 
>>> still up for sale: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/T1BxuItl5W8/m/4U7L6p4_BQAJ
>>>  
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you're interested in it... unfortunately your 
>>> Atlantis is too small for me, so it would only work if you find a buyer for 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Max 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:26:22 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 We need the size of your frame and what you're trying to trade up to. 

 On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-7 nickm...@me.com wrote:

> Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but 
> think I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to 
> upsize. 
> Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size 
> than 
> 55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
> benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Platy Lug: Different. Which one do you have?

[Joe Bernard]

"Joe's theory seems pretty sound", "I think Joe has nailed it." 

I like the direction this thread has taken recently! 

Joe "occasionally right" Bernard

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 5:42:10 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I think it is time to ask Grant. I'm intrigued. Leah, was your raspberry 
> Platy sort of a pre-production model? If so, I think Joe has nailed it.
> Doug
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-4 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Mine is a 60cm, also. Joe's theory seems pretty sound. 
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:32:48 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lance - what size? I’m trying to figure out if the 60cm has the fancier 
>>> lug. So far they all have the sleek lug, and the 55 got the fancy. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2022, at 6:22 PM, Lance Terry  wrote:
>>>
>>> Plain here on my on mermaid Platy. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 8:45:14 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Triumph: "I almost kept up with Leah on her Racing Plat"
 Humiliation: "I couldn't keep up with Leah on her Training Plat"

 On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 7:09:03 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> 
> As is usual, Bill is right. I would not dare argue with him OR his 
> science. Also, he is funny. Yes, the cutout is the training lug and I am 
> better for it, of that you may be sure! Maybe my next goal will be to 
> work 
> up to riding the Mermaid Plat on the club ride with that heavy lug and 
> all. 
> The ultimate demonstration of prowess.
>
> Now, the thing for the rest of you Platy-owners to know is which kind 
> of Platypus you want when the summer Platys arrive. Do you want a Racer 
> Platy or a Training Platy? Both are excellent. I might recommend one of 
> each.
>
> Leah
>
> On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Leah asked: " What do you make of this?"
>
>
> Well DUH!  Obviously the plainer one is much much better, proven by 
> you because you love your Raspberry Plat so much more than any other 
> bike.  
> Reinforced by the fact that yoru Raspberry Plat absolutely DESTROYED the 
> roadie-dominated club ride.  The plain one is faster, stronger and 
> awesomer.  Believe the science!
>
> They snuck the slow heavy cutout one onto your mermaid Plat to make 
> you work harder, so your Racing Plat is that much more dominant during 
> your 
> Alpha demonstrations of prowess.  
>
> Mermaid Plat -- training bike
> Racing Plat -- event bike
>
> ;-P
>
> Bill "proving the proofs which have been proven" Lindsay
> Liv, MI
>
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:16:02 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, good to know the real name. I will likely continue to mess it up. 
>> Did you see the photos? What do you make of this?
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:11 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Leah, "bottom bracket lug" is perfectly descriptive, but I think the 
>> term you'll see in print when lugs are being discussed is "bottom 
>> bracket 
>> shell".  That term isn't totally specific to cast bottom bracket shells 
>> like this.  The plain metal cylinder one would use in a tig welded or 
>> fillet brazed frame is also called a "bottom bracket shell".  Either 
>> way, 
>> your "bottom bracket lug" identifies what you are talking about just fine
>>
>>
>> BL in WC
>>
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:06:26 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I stumbled upon something very interesting. I was taking my mermaid 
>>> Platypus out for a ride and I happened to notice what I thought was a 
>>> large 
>>> drop of water on the bottom bracket lug. It wasn’t - it’s a cut-out. It 
>>> looked so foreign to me, so I looked at my raspberry Platypus. 
>>>
>>> Totally different lugs. 
>>>
>>> My raspberry is a sample bike. It made sense to me that it might 
>>> have a different, simpler lug. But then I started looking on Instagram. 
>>> Now, who takes photos of the bottom bracket lug (is that the name for 
>>> it? I 
>>> don’t know.)? Almost no one. But I found a mermaid Platy on Blue Lug’s 
>>> account and it has the same lug as my raspberry bike. So, it is not 
>>> because 
>>> my bike is a sample. It seems some Platys went out with the cut-out 
>>> lug, 
>>> and some went out with the plain lug. I’ll attach photos in the 
>>> following 
>>> post…
>>>
>>> Which lug does your Platypus have? Why do you think they built the 
>>> bikes this way?
>>> Leah
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA knickers, Blue Lug/RBW cap, Otto lock

[Joe Bernard]

All SOLD

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 2:36:22 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Well that last post (deleted) certainly had an interesting typo 
> Knickers sold, cap and lock pending! 
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:56:27 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Knickers are the older style with adjustable straps at the bottom so 
>> won't be as costly as the ones recently sold here, brown, large, sold to me 
>> as near new and I never wore them, never will! $50 
>>
>> Blue Lug/RBW cap, fits kinda large or adjusts down, also near new, tried 
>> once, not my jam, $50
>>
>> Otto Lock, 30 inches, pricey new and I've used it maybe three times but I 
>> don't think anybody is going to pay big money so let's call it $20
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/86wLz25YPLXBQz868
>>
>> All prices plus shipping. Email or text for more pics and all the 
>> questions and whatnot! 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joe Bernard
>> joeremi62 gmail com
>> 415-786-4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platy Lug: Different. Which one do you have?

[Doug H.]

I think it is time to ask Grant. I'm intrigued. Leah, was your raspberry 
Platy sort of a pre-production model? If so, I think Joe has nailed it.
Doug
On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-4 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mine is a 60cm, also. Joe's theory seems pretty sound. 
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:32:48 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Lance - what size? I’m trying to figure out if the 60cm has the fancier 
>> lug. So far they all have the sleek lug, and the 55 got the fancy. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2022, at 6:22 PM, Lance Terry  wrote:
>>
>> Plain here on my on mermaid Platy. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 8:45:14 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Triumph: "I almost kept up with Leah on her Racing Plat"
>>> Humiliation: "I couldn't keep up with Leah on her Training Plat"
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 7:09:03 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 
 As is usual, Bill is right. I would not dare argue with him OR his 
 science. Also, he is funny. Yes, the cutout is the training lug and I am 
 better for it, of that you may be sure! Maybe my next goal will be to work 
 up to riding the Mermaid Plat on the club ride with that heavy lug and 
 all. 
 The ultimate demonstration of prowess.

 Now, the thing for the rest of you Platy-owners to know is which kind 
 of Platypus you want when the summer Platys arrive. Do you want a Racer 
 Platy or a Training Platy? Both are excellent. I might recommend one of 
 each.

 Leah

 On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

 Leah asked: " What do you make of this?"


 Well DUH!  Obviously the plainer one is much much better, proven by you 
 because you love your Raspberry Plat so much more than any other bike.  
 Reinforced by the fact that yoru Raspberry Plat absolutely DESTROYED the 
 roadie-dominated club ride.  The plain one is faster, stronger and 
 awesomer.  Believe the science!

 They snuck the slow heavy cutout one onto your mermaid Plat to make you 
 work harder, so your Racing Plat is that much more dominant during your 
 Alpha demonstrations of prowess.  

 Mermaid Plat -- training bike
 Racing Plat -- event bike

 ;-P

 Bill "proving the proofs which have been proven" Lindsay
 Liv, MI


 On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:16:02 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Ok, good to know the real name. I will likely continue to mess it up. 
> Did you see the photos? What do you make of this?
>
> On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:11 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Leah, "bottom bracket lug" is perfectly descriptive, but I think the 
> term you'll see in print when lugs are being discussed is "bottom bracket 
> shell".  That term isn't totally specific to cast bottom bracket shells 
> like this.  The plain metal cylinder one would use in a tig welded or 
> fillet brazed frame is also called a "bottom bracket shell".  Either way, 
> your "bottom bracket lug" identifies what you are talking about just fine
>
>
> BL in WC
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:06:26 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I stumbled upon something very interesting. I was taking my mermaid 
>> Platypus out for a ride and I happened to notice what I thought was a 
>> large 
>> drop of water on the bottom bracket lug. It wasn’t - it’s a cut-out. It 
>> looked so foreign to me, so I looked at my raspberry Platypus. 
>>
>> Totally different lugs. 
>>
>> My raspberry is a sample bike. It made sense to me that it might have 
>> a different, simpler lug. But then I started looking on Instagram. Now, 
>> who 
>> takes photos of the bottom bracket lug (is that the name for it? I don’t 
>> know.)? Almost no one. But I found a mermaid Platy on Blue Lug’s account 
>> and it has the same lug as my raspberry bike. So, it is not because my 
>> bike 
>> is a sample. It seems some Platys went out with the cut-out lug, and 
>> some 
>> went out with the plain lug. I’ll attach photos in the following post…
>>
>> Which lug does your Platypus have? Why do you think they built the 
>> bikes this way?
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

['N Mehring' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Open to an outright sale also. Riv has a homer in stock. Anybody interested 
in buying the frame fork and headset for 1000.00? Got a new fork from Riv 
because a canti stud busted off. Has a small paint blem on the crown. 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 2:39:37 PM UTC-7 N Mehring wrote:

> Wonderful bike! I'd have to sell mine first! but yes something along those 
> lines
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:56:16 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick, 
>>
>> I listed my (old short chain stay geo) Sam 58 a few days ago - it's still 
>> up for sale: 
>> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/T1BxuItl5W8/m/4U7L6p4_BQAJ
>>  
>>
>> Please let me know if you're interested in it... unfortunately your 
>> Atlantis is too small for me, so it would only work if you find a buyer for 
>> it.
>>
>> Max 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:26:22 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> We need the size of your frame and what you're trying to trade up to. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-7 nickm...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but 
 think I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to upsize. 
 Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size 
 than 
 55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
 benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTT: My used Fleecer Ridge for Antelope Hill

[Nikko in Oakland]

Hey there, 

I have Fleecer Ridge tires on my Hunq but I'm not using it for off-road 
stuff anymore and it's primarily ridden on pavement. 

Anybody want to trade my used Fleecer Ridge tires for your Antelope Hill 
tires? Tires have about 500 miles of use on them with plenty of life left. 

Nikko 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's pre-ordering an Atlantis next week?

[Thomas Sibley]

I ordered a 59 yesterday ( that rainbow bar), chomping at the bit
right after noon worried it would sell out (unfounded I guess). Super
excited! I've bought lots of parts and gear from Riv for years and years
but never an actual bicycle. I hope I like it; it seems likely I will.
Really regretting that I didn't try harder to make a visit over to Riv
when I was briefly down in La Honda in October.

The other Riv frames haven't been too attractive to me in comparison to
my long-time trusty steed, a Surly Cross-Check which I've continually
refined into a great all-rounder bike for me over the past 12 years.
Asking myself "Do I really need a new single?" always concluded in "Not
really." But the Atlantis got my attention a while back around the same
time it felt like my more recent refinements of the Cross-Check were
fighting its geometry. On the Atlantis, I'm looking forward to getting
even more upright, switching to a quill stem, running wider tires than
the Cross-Check can accommodate with fenders (38s from Compass, er, Rene
Herse), experiencing longer chainstays, having All The Braze-ons, and so
on. Will first build it up using a mix a spare parts I have on hand,
stolen parts from my Cross-Check, and new parts just for it, and see
where it goes from there. My brain is definitely vibrating with the
(rare to me) new bike excitement and not just any new bike, but a Riv!

Thomas in Seattle

P.S. Hello! I just learned about (and joined) this list two days ago
when researching more about the Atlantis. I think I'll stay a while.


On 4/21/22 10:14, Jim Whorton wrote:
> I ordered a 55 frame.  It is all I can do to be ending these sentences
> with periods instead of strings of exclamation points.  I'm stoked,
> I'm enthused, I'm maintaining a calm exterior while selecting parts
> one by one.  I've got a Clem H I bought complete, much modified now
> with guidance from this forum.  The Atlantis will be my first time
> building a bike up from a new frame.  I'm going to go slwww and
> enjoy it too. 
>
> I have been wanting this bike for years and was doubtful I'd be able
> to get it, as fast as the Riv frames have been selling out lately. 
> And I see now there are still Atlantis frames available, a day later,
> in every size EXCEPT the 55.  Below is proof that the 55s sold out in
> under an hour.
>
> Jim in Rochester
>
>
> atlantis 55 sold out.jpg
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:
>
> I have to admit that for the last decade or so, I haven't been too
> interested in Rivendell's off-the-peg frame offerings. I have a
> Rambouillet and a Heron, and briefly owned a 26" wheeled Toyo
> Atlantis (that had been a wish-list bike for a long time) that I
> just didn't gel with. I've looked at Riv's current offerings, and
> the only one in recent years that peaked my interest was the Clem
> H. After reading the most recent Riv newsletter and seeing the
> Atlantis pre-order, I took a look, and realized that the 53cm
> Atlantis is very close in fit and function to the 52cm Clem H.
> It's kind of got me interested. If I were to buy one, I would have
> to build a set of wheels, as I don't have any 584 wheelsets. I'd
> probably rob the rest of the parts to build it off some other
> bikes, and think about thinning the herd a bit. I've built quite a
> fleet of 90s MTB beaters, and they are currently enjoying a bit of
> a moment of popularity, so maybe it's time to release some of them
> into the wild.
>
> Anyway, that's my story. Is anyone else planning on trying to get
> an Atlantis? Why? What are your plans for it? 
>
> Any recommendations for 584 rims? I think the Velocity Cliffhanger
> is the only wide, rim brake rim available in that size. Any others
> that I've missed. I'd be using 2.2-2.4" tires, so narrow rims need
> not apply.
>
> Chris
>
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[RBW] Re: Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

['N Mehring' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi, Thanks for the reply. I honestly think that any frame that is a 
58,60,62 would work. I am open to different model bikes as well. Thanks!

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 9:26:22 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> We need the size of your frame and what you're trying to trade up to. 
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-7 nickm...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but 
>> think I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to upsize. 
>> Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size than 
>> 55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
>> benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

['N Mehring' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wonderful bike! I'd have to sell mine first! but yes something along those 
lines

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:56:16 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Nick, 
>
> I listed my (old short chain stay geo) Sam 58 a few days ago - it's still 
> up for sale: 
> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/T1BxuItl5W8/m/4U7L6p4_BQAJ
>  
>
> Please let me know if you're interested in it... unfortunately your 
> Atlantis is too small for me, so it would only work if you find a buyer for 
> it.
>
> Max 
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:26:22 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> We need the size of your frame and what you're trying to trade up to. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-7 nickm...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but 
>>> think I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to upsize. 
>>> Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size than 
>>> 55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
>>> benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA knickers, Blue Lug/RBW cap, Otto lock

[Joe Bernard]

Well that last post (deleted) certainly had an interesting typo 
Knickers sold, cap and lock pending! 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:56:27 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Knickers are the older style with adjustable straps at the bottom so won't 
> be as costly as the ones recently sold here, brown, large, sold to me as 
> near new and I never wore them, never will! $50 
>
> Blue Lug/RBW cap, fits kinda large or adjusts down, also near new, tried 
> once, not my jam, $50
>
> Otto Lock, 30 inches, pricey new and I've used it maybe three times but I 
> don't think anybody is going to pay big money so let's call it $20
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/86wLz25YPLXBQz868
>
> All prices plus shipping. Email or text for more pics and all the 
> questions and whatnot! 
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> joeremi62 gmail com
> 415-786-4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rene Herse 700x55 Antelope Hill or Fleecer Ridge

[Jared Wilson]

Landed a pair, thanks Adam!

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Gearing up for my new Susie and need some rubber.
>
> Looking for a pair of  RH 700x55 Antelope Hill or Fleecer Ridge tires, 
> standard or extralight casing, in new or good-used condition.
>
> Please respond off list, thanks!
>
> Jared in SLO, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA knickers, Blue Lug/RBW cap, Otto lock

[Joe Bernard]

Knickers sold, cap and kock pending 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:56:27 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Knickers are the older style with adjustable straps at the bottom so won't 
> be as costly as the ones recently sold here, brown, large, sold to me as 
> near new and I never wore them, never will! $50 
>
> Blue Lug/RBW cap, fits kinda large or adjusts down, also near new, tried 
> once, not my jam, $50
>
> Otto Lock, 30 inches, pricey new and I've used it maybe three times but I 
> don't think anybody is going to pay big money so let's call it $20
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/86wLz25YPLXBQz868
>
> All prices plus shipping. Email or text for more pics and all the 
> questions and whatnot! 
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> joeremi62 gmail com
> 415-786-4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA knickers, Blue Lug/RBW cap, Otto lock

[Gill]

Hi Joe, I’d like to buy the lock. Venmo, PayPal whatever. 
Chris

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 3:56:27 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Knickers are the older style with adjustable straps at the bottom so won't 
> be as costly as the ones recently sold here, brown, large, sold to me as 
> near new and I never wore them, never will! $50 
>
> Blue Lug/RBW cap, fits kinda large or adjusts down, also near new, tried 
> once, not my jam, $50
>
> Otto Lock, 30 inches, pricey new and I've used it maybe three times but I 
> don't think anybody is going to pay big money so let's call it $20
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/86wLz25YPLXBQz868
>
> All prices plus shipping. Email or text for more pics and all the 
> questions and whatnot! 
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> joeremi62 gmail com
> 415-786-4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>

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[RBW] FS: MUSA knickers, Blue Lug/RBW cap, Otto lock

[Joe Bernard]

Knickers are the older style with adjustable straps at the bottom so won't 
be as costly as the ones recently sold here, brown, large, sold to me as 
near new and I never wore them, never will! $50 

Blue Lug/RBW cap, fits kinda large or adjusts down, also near new, tried 
once, not my jam, $50

Otto Lock, 30 inches, pricey new and I've used it maybe three times but I 
don't think anybody is going to pay big money so let's call it $20

https://photos.app.goo.gl/86wLz25YPLXBQz868

All prices plus shipping. Email or text for more pics and all the questions 
and whatnot! 

Thanks,
Joe Bernard
joeremi62 gmail com
415-786-4623

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[RBW] Re: Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

[maxcr]

Hi Nick, 

I listed my (old short chain stay geo) Sam 58 a few days ago - it's still 
up for sale: 
https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/T1BxuItl5W8/m/4U7L6p4_BQAJ 

Please let me know if you're interested in it... unfortunately your 
Atlantis is too small for me, so it would only work if you find a buyer for 
it.

Max 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:26:22 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> We need the size of your frame and what you're trying to trade up to. 
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-7 nickm...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but 
>> think I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to upsize. 
>> Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size than 
>> 55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
>> benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Who's pre-ordering an Atlantis next week?

[CJ]

Dave, thanks for the insight. I would have expected the opposite, as the 
Atlantis has a 1 degree slacker head tube angle. It does have a shorter 
effective top tube, so that may have a greater effect.

The biggest question for me is if the 53cm Atlantis would have toe overlap 
with fat tires or fenders. For an off-pavement bicycle, toe overlap is a 
deal breaker for me.

In the end, I talked myself out of the Atlantis. For now, haha. I do see 
that there are some 53s still available...

Chris


On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:41 AM UTC-4 DJC wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> I have both a 52cm Clem H and a 53cm Atlantis (v.3). While they share the 
> long wheelbase and relaxed geometry, they're very different bikes. The Clem 
> leans heavily toward an mid-80s MTB, but with greater stability and 
> comfort. The Atlantis "feels" more nimble and better suited to all-a-round 
> riding. I use both for commuting, but I'd choose the Atlantis as my touring 
> rig and use the Clem H for off-road adventuring.
> Regarding wheels, I built up Velocity Cliffhangers for both bikes.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:19:30 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:
>
>> PS: I should have written "piqued my interest", not "peaked...". No 
>> excuse for that one
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:
>>
>>> I have to admit that for the last decade or so, I haven't been too 
>>> interested in Rivendell's off-the-peg frame offerings. I have a Rambouillet 
>>> and a Heron, and briefly owned a 26" wheeled Toyo Atlantis (that had been a 
>>> wish-list bike for a long time) that I just didn't gel with. I've looked at 
>>> Riv's current offerings, and the only one in recent years that peaked my 
>>> interest was the Clem H. After reading the most recent Riv newsletter and 
>>> seeing the Atlantis pre-order, I took a look, and realized that the 53cm 
>>> Atlantis is very close in fit and function to the 52cm Clem H. It's kind of 
>>> got me interested. If I were to buy one, I would have to build a set of 
>>> wheels, as I don't have any 584 wheelsets. I'd probably rob the rest of the 
>>> parts to build it off some other bikes, and think about thinning the herd a 
>>> bit. I've built quite a fleet of 90s MTB beaters, and they are currently 
>>> enjoying a bit of a moment of popularity, so maybe it's time to release 
>>> some of them into the wild.
>>>
>>> Anyway, that's my story. Is anyone else planning on trying to get an 
>>> Atlantis? Why? What are your plans for it? 
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for 584 rims? I think the Velocity Cliffhanger is 
>>> the only wide, rim brake rim available in that size. Any others that I've 
>>> missed. I'd be using 2.2-2.4" tires, so narrow rims need not apply.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Who's pre-ordering an Atlantis next week?

[Jim Whorton]

I ordered a 55 frame.  It is all I can do to be ending these sentences with 
periods instead of strings of exclamation points.  I'm stoked, I'm 
enthused, I'm maintaining a calm exterior while selecting parts one by 
one.  I've got a Clem H I bought complete, much modified now with guidance 
from this forum.  The Atlantis will be my first time building a bike up 
from a new frame.  I'm going to go slwww and enjoy it too.  

I have been wanting this bike for years and was doubtful I'd be able to get 
it, as fast as the Riv frames have been selling out lately.  And I see now 
there are still Atlantis frames available, a day later, in every size 
EXCEPT the 55.  Below is proof that the 55s sold out in under an hour.

Jim in Rochester


[image: atlantis 55 sold out.jpg]

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:

> I have to admit that for the last decade or so, I haven't been too 
> interested in Rivendell's off-the-peg frame offerings. I have a Rambouillet 
> and a Heron, and briefly owned a 26" wheeled Toyo Atlantis (that had been a 
> wish-list bike for a long time) that I just didn't gel with. I've looked at 
> Riv's current offerings, and the only one in recent years that peaked my 
> interest was the Clem H. After reading the most recent Riv newsletter and 
> seeing the Atlantis pre-order, I took a look, and realized that the 53cm 
> Atlantis is very close in fit and function to the 52cm Clem H. It's kind of 
> got me interested. If I were to buy one, I would have to build a set of 
> wheels, as I don't have any 584 wheelsets. I'd probably rob the rest of the 
> parts to build it off some other bikes, and think about thinning the herd a 
> bit. I've built quite a fleet of 90s MTB beaters, and they are currently 
> enjoying a bit of a moment of popularity, so maybe it's time to release 
> some of them into the wild.
>
> Anyway, that's my story. Is anyone else planning on trying to get an 
> Atlantis? Why? What are your plans for it? 
>
> Any recommendations for 584 rims? I think the Velocity Cliffhanger is the 
> only wide, rim brake rim available in that size. Any others that I've 
> missed. I'd be using 2.2-2.4" tires, so narrow rims need not apply.
>
> Chris
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Musa Cycling Knickers (aka "Baggies"), size Large

[Reed Idlewild]

These neato knickers are spoken for, thanks folks!


Best,
Reed

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:30:40 AM UTC-7 Reed Idlewild wrote:

> Selling one pair of these, in large: 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/musa-knicker-pants-brown?variant=40707481469039
>
> I'm tall and usually wear size 32 jeans. I wasn't sure which size of these 
> to go with, so I bought both M and L. I can wear either, but I like the way 
> the M fits better, so these L ones are for sale. 
>
> These are as new. Tried on once for one minute, then put back in the 
> Original Rivendell Bag and then into the Original Rivendell Box where they 
> have sat for months because I have a newborn baby and this was not at the 
> top of the priorities.
>
> These have been out of stock for a while, which makes sense. They're 
> great! Just looking to get what I paid for them, but let's round the tax 
> down to keep it simple and call it $120.
>
> Preference given to anyone willing to pick them up in San Leandro, CA. If 
> nobody is willing to pick 'em up in the next couple days then I'll ship on 
> your dime.
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>

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[RBW] Re: Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

[Joe Bernard]

We need the size of your frame and what you're trying to trade up to. 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-7 nickm...@me.com wrote:

> Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but think 
> I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to upsize. 
> Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size than 
> 55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
> benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 

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[RBW] Re: Who's pre-ordering an Atlantis next week?

[Kirke Campbell]

Does anyone know if they are offering an 26" wheel Atlantis this time 
around? Current listing shows 50cm as the smallest size, but description 
below mentions a 47cm, which I think was the 26" version. Obviously, Riv 
goes by PBH but are there any geo charts out there or does anyone have top 
tube length on the 47/50/53cm sizes?

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 4:50:53 PM UTC-5 CJ wrote:

> I have to admit that for the last decade or so, I haven't been too 
> interested in Rivendell's off-the-peg frame offerings. I have a Rambouillet 
> and a Heron, and briefly owned a 26" wheeled Toyo Atlantis (that had been a 
> wish-list bike for a long time) that I just didn't gel with. I've looked at 
> Riv's current offerings, and the only one in recent years that peaked my 
> interest was the Clem H. After reading the most recent Riv newsletter and 
> seeing the Atlantis pre-order, I took a look, and realized that the 53cm 
> Atlantis is very close in fit and function to the 52cm Clem H. It's kind of 
> got me interested. If I were to buy one, I would have to build a set of 
> wheels, as I don't have any 584 wheelsets. I'd probably rob the rest of the 
> parts to build it off some other bikes, and think about thinning the herd a 
> bit. I've built quite a fleet of 90s MTB beaters, and they are currently 
> enjoying a bit of a moment of popularity, so maybe it's time to release 
> some of them into the wild.
>
> Anyway, that's my story. Is anyone else planning on trying to get an 
> Atlantis? Why? What are your plans for it? 
>
> Any recommendations for 584 rims? I think the Velocity Cliffhanger is the 
> only wide, rim brake rim available in that size. Any others that I've 
> missed. I'd be using 2.2-2.4" tires, so narrow rims need not apply.
>
> Chris
>

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Jakob B]

Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks ago, 
game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next Wednesday, 27th? 

Cheers,
Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years ago, 
> I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought and 
> sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We could 
> each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, could be 
> fun.
>
> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
> Alan
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
>
> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there 
> on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
> -Kai
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
>> or another day.
>>
>> stephen
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, got it.
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>
>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
 Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?

 Alan

 On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
 (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:

> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>
> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay 
> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>> everyone else could.
>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>
>> Alan
>> UWS
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>
>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done 
>> the ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
>> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
>> your helmet inside :)
>>
>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>
>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>
>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
>> e.g. 
>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping 
>>> and biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>
>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
 there. who else is up for it?

 -stephen

 On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
 -Brooklyn NY wrote:

>
> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some 
> cruising around the trails that 

[RBW] Bought an at Atlantis. Afraid it's too small.

['N Mehring' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi All, Got an Atlantis last year and used my pbh as a reference but think 
I undersized. Long torso, short leg problem. I am looking to upsize. 
Anybody interested in swapping? Im open to hillbornes in a larger size than 
55 too. I have a longer wheelbase 2019/20 version. I feel that i would 
benifit from a fit persoective from a bike with drop bars. Cheers! 

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Jakob B]

I am interested in a ride! I just moved to Brooklyn (Border of 
Prospect/Crown Heights) from San Francisco 3 weeks ago. I ride a Mustard 
Clem H.

-Jake

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on Wednesdays 
> so I thought I’d ask.
> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
> or another day.
>
> stephen
>
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Okay, got it.
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>
>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
 Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 

 Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
 Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
 around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 

 On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
> everyone else could.
> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>
> Alan
> UWS
>
> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>
> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done 
> the ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
> your helmet inside :)
>
> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
> pass ft tilden into town.
>
> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>
> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
> e.g. 
> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping 
>> and biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>
>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>
>>> -stephen
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>> NY wrote:
>>>

 Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some 
 cruising around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in 
 some 
 races with baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is 
 neutral 
 territory for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
 -Kai

 On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:

> Good morning
>
> I'd like to get in on this as well.
> Murray Hill // Clem H
>
> Thanks
> Jacob
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in 
>>> on rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a 
>>> ride 
>>> 

[RBW] Re: Who's pre-ordering an Atlantis next week?

[DJC]

Hi Chris,

I have both a 52cm Clem H and a 53cm Atlantis (v.3). While they share the 
long wheelbase and relaxed geometry, they're very different bikes. The Clem 
leans heavily toward an mid-80s MTB, but with greater stability and 
comfort. The Atlantis "feels" more nimble and better suited to all-a-round 
riding. I use both for commuting, but I'd choose the Atlantis as my touring 
rig and use the Clem H for off-road adventuring.
Regarding wheels, I built up Velocity Cliffhangers for both bikes.

Cheers,
Dave


On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:19:30 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:

> PS: I should have written "piqued my interest", not "peaked...". No excuse 
> for that one
>
> Chris
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-4 CJ wrote:
>
>> I have to admit that for the last decade or so, I haven't been too 
>> interested in Rivendell's off-the-peg frame offerings. I have a Rambouillet 
>> and a Heron, and briefly owned a 26" wheeled Toyo Atlantis (that had been a 
>> wish-list bike for a long time) that I just didn't gel with. I've looked at 
>> Riv's current offerings, and the only one in recent years that peaked my 
>> interest was the Clem H. After reading the most recent Riv newsletter and 
>> seeing the Atlantis pre-order, I took a look, and realized that the 53cm 
>> Atlantis is very close in fit and function to the 52cm Clem H. It's kind of 
>> got me interested. If I were to buy one, I would have to build a set of 
>> wheels, as I don't have any 584 wheelsets. I'd probably rob the rest of the 
>> parts to build it off some other bikes, and think about thinning the herd a 
>> bit. I've built quite a fleet of 90s MTB beaters, and they are currently 
>> enjoying a bit of a moment of popularity, so maybe it's time to release 
>> some of them into the wild.
>>
>> Anyway, that's my story. Is anyone else planning on trying to get an 
>> Atlantis? Why? What are your plans for it? 
>>
>> Any recommendations for 584 rims? I think the Velocity Cliffhanger is the 
>> only wide, rim brake rim available in that size. Any others that I've 
>> missed. I'd be using 2.2-2.4" tires, so narrow rims need not apply.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: frame timeline?

[Wally Estrella]

Update - Hillibikes and Atlantis framesWe found out the Hillibike boat 
won't reach Oakland until the 28th, so we'll only be able to start shipping 
frames and building bikes in early May. It usually takes about a week and a 
half from the time the boat arrives to when the container arrives here. 
Everybody who has a frame on order has been so patient and understanding, 
so thank you for that. We're in the final stretch of the wait now.

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:14:50 AM UTC-4 Paul Richardson wrote:

> I thought I saw a timeline posted recently of when to expect new frames, 
> either in a blahg or email update.  Scrawled in sharpie on a beat-up piece 
> of cardboard.  Anybody recall seeing that and know where to find it?
>
> thanks!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[John Entwistle]

I'll be staying in Brooklyn (Bushwick) from August-September, I'd be happy 
to meet up for some rides while I'm in town.

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>
> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>> everyone else could.
>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>
>> Alan
>> UWS
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>
>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
>> ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
>> along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
>> helmet inside :)
>>
>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass 
>> ft tilden into town.
>>
>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>
>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
>>> biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>
>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
 there. who else is up for it?

 -stephen

 On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
 wrote:

>
> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races 
> with 
> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
> -Kai
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>
>> Good morning
>>
>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jacob
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 Hey,

 I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
 rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
 organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to 
 keep 
 connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai 
 suggested way 
 back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest 
 park 
 yesterday while the weather was nice. 

 -stephen
 On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
 -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. 
> Ram’s in the spa)
>
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is 
>> warming up i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the 
>> list of 
>> folks that responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly 
>> above):
>>
>> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
>> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
>> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
>> Alan / UWS /
>> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
>> Austin / ** / Roadini
>> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>>
>> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start 
>> arranging/proposing rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  
>> As far 
>> as organizing methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a 
>> sub-group?   private email list?
>>
>> And for any new folks that 

[RBW] Re: WTT/WTS Campag 10-speed triple group

[bob saunders]

Sold to a fine gent in Anchorage.

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:08:29 PM UTC-4 bob saunders wrote:

> Still looking for a home…
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:37:23 AM UTC-5 bob saunders wrote:
>
>> Folks…I have an extremely nice Campag 10-speed triple group that I’d like 
>> to trade/add cash for a 62 Rambouillet or Romulus frame in great condition. 
>> If sold as a group, I’m asking $550 plus shipping CONUS and I’m not 
>> interested in breaking up the group. The group consists of:
>>
>> Comp 10speed 53/42/30 175mm crank and NOS crank bolts
>> Centaur triple bottom bracket (English threads NOS w/box)
>> Centaur 10-speed alloy Ergos
>> Centaur 10-speed triple FD (32mm clamp NOS w/box)
>> Comp long cage RD
>> Centaur silver brakes with partially used pads
>> Here’s a link to a photo of the group and I have individual photos 
>> available for email as well.
>>
>> [img]https://i.imgur.com/iriNNST.jpg[/img]
>>
>> Thanks 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Alex Bitterman]

Hi all,

I'd love to join for some rides! I'm on the UWS with a Clem H  (and a new 
Homer that's currently with my dad but will be here soon). Kissena sounds 
like a good starting point.

-Alex

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

>
> Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
> around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with 
> baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
> for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
> -Kai
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
>
>> Good morning
>>
>> I'd like to get in on this as well.
>> Murray Hill // Clem H
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jacob
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 Hey,

 I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on 
 rides and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride 
 organized through this thread first and then figure out a good way to keep 
 connected? I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested 
 way 
 back to just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest park 
 yesterday while the weather was nice. 

 -stephen
 On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
 wrote:

> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s 
> in the spa)
>
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is 
>> warming up i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the list 
>> of 
>> folks that responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
>>
>> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
>> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
>> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
>> Alan / UWS /
>> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
>> Austin / ** / Roadini
>> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>>
>> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start 
>> arranging/proposing rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As 
>> far 
>> as organizing methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a 
>> sub-group?   private email list?
>>
>> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to 
>> jump in, we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a 
>> smaller thread for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
>>
>> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring that 
>> new Ram!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 chase@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I 
 am in Bed Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase

 On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing 
> that I live about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group 
> comes 
> over to the NJ side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's 
> always 
> nice meeting like minded people.
>
> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade weaved 
> basket.  That is art to my eyes.  
>
> Roberta
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. 
> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two 
>> kids and a job that burns the present daylight hours away)
>> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river 
>> to Jersey City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. 
>> From 
>> there we could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then 
>> weave 
>> our way down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge 
>> we can. 
>> Every crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous 
>> would be 
>> fine, if you're into that sort of thing...
>> Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, 
>> whatevs)
>> -Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among 
>> others
>>
>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Platy Lug: Different. Which one do you have?

[Lance Terry]

Mine is a 60cm, also. Joe's theory seems pretty sound. 

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:32:48 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Lance - what size? I’m trying to figure out if the 60cm has the fancier 
> lug. So far they all have the sleek lug, and the 55 got the fancy. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 15, 2022, at 6:22 PM, Lance Terry  wrote:
>
> Plain here on my on mermaid Platy. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 8:45:14 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Triumph: "I almost kept up with Leah on her Racing Plat"
>> Humiliation: "I couldn't keep up with Leah on her Training Plat"
>>
>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 7:09:03 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> As is usual, Bill is right. I would not dare argue with him OR his 
>>> science. Also, he is funny. Yes, the cutout is the training lug and I am 
>>> better for it, of that you may be sure! Maybe my next goal will be to work 
>>> up to riding the Mermaid Plat on the club ride with that heavy lug and all. 
>>> The ultimate demonstration of prowess.
>>>
>>> Now, the thing for the rest of you Platy-owners to know is which kind of 
>>> Platypus you want when the summer Platys arrive. Do you want a Racer Platy 
>>> or a Training Platy? Both are excellent. I might recommend one of each.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:42 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah asked: " What do you make of this?"
>>>
>>>
>>> Well DUH!  Obviously the plainer one is much much better, proven by you 
>>> because you love your Raspberry Plat so much more than any other bike.  
>>> Reinforced by the fact that yoru Raspberry Plat absolutely DESTROYED the 
>>> roadie-dominated club ride.  The plain one is faster, stronger and 
>>> awesomer.  Believe the science!
>>>
>>> They snuck the slow heavy cutout one onto your mermaid Plat to make you 
>>> work harder, so your Racing Plat is that much more dominant during your 
>>> Alpha demonstrations of prowess.  
>>>
>>> Mermaid Plat -- training bike
>>> Racing Plat -- event bike
>>>
>>> ;-P
>>>
>>> Bill "proving the proofs which have been proven" Lindsay
>>> Liv, MI
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:16:02 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ok, good to know the real name. I will likely continue to mess it up. 
 Did you see the photos? What do you make of this?

 On Apr 8, 2022, at 9:11 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

 Leah, "bottom bracket lug" is perfectly descriptive, but I think the 
 term you'll see in print when lugs are being discussed is "bottom bracket 
 shell".  That term isn't totally specific to cast bottom bracket shells 
 like this.  The plain metal cylinder one would use in a tig welded or 
 fillet brazed frame is also called a "bottom bracket shell".  Either way, 
 your "bottom bracket lug" identifies what you are talking about just fine


 BL in WC

 On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:06:26 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> I stumbled upon something very interesting. I was taking my mermaid 
> Platypus out for a ride and I happened to notice what I thought was a 
> large 
> drop of water on the bottom bracket lug. It wasn’t - it’s a cut-out. It 
> looked so foreign to me, so I looked at my raspberry Platypus. 
>
> Totally different lugs. 
>
> My raspberry is a sample bike. It made sense to me that it might have 
> a different, simpler lug. But then I started looking on Instagram. Now, 
> who 
> takes photos of the bottom bracket lug (is that the name for it? I don’t 
> know.)? Almost no one. But I found a mermaid Platy on Blue Lug’s account 
> and it has the same lug as my raspberry bike. So, it is not because my 
> bike 
> is a sample. It seems some Platys went out with the cut-out lug, and some 
> went out with the plain lug. I’ll attach photos in the following post…
>
> Which lug does your Platypus have? Why do you think they built the 
> bikes this way?
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Continental Gatorskin 26": any onlist users? Reports?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for this, Mark; if I see a pair of the 26" Gatorskins on sale I may
just try them.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 6:18 PM esoterica etc 
wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I don't have any 26" Gatorskins, but FWIW, I do have some 700c x 32's on
> my fixed road bike. I wanted something that was very highly rated for
> puncture-resistance, and I found this pair used locally for a great price.
>
> Since the Gatorskins are advertised as "one of the most puncture proof
> tires around", I was expecting a harsh, dead ride (i.e., Schwalbe Marathon
> Plus), but was very pleasantly surprised with the ride quality. And for
> the record, I have some RH Babyshoe Pass Extralights (650b x 42) on my
> geared rando bike, so I do know what tire Nirvana feels like.
>
> I usually only take the fixed road bike out for rides <10 miles, so no
> longer-distance experience with the Gatorskins, but I really feel that
> there's an impressive amount of suppleness given the level of puncture
> protection built into the tire.
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 14:49, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/continental-gatorskin-26-inch-road-tire
>
> After binging on extralight Rene Herse tires, the description sounds
> horrible: puncture belt, 320 grams (RH 26 X 28 mm Elk Pass = 175 grams),
> Kevlar *plus* "Duraskin" wall-to-wall protection, wire beads, priced at
> $23.00 per dozen. (Well, not quite.)
>
> But the reviews are good, tho' one wonders if the reviewers have
> experienced the orgiastic loveliness of RH EL tires.
>
> Long shot, given the 28 mm width, but has anyone ridden these enough to
> declaim on their rolling qualities? **Perceived** rolling qualities
> welcome, measured even better.
>
> Are they, like, faster-feeling and more cushiony than the 26 X 1.25 Pasela
> or the 26 X 1.35 Kojak?
>
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[RBW] FS: 650B Wheelset (Alex/Deore/Novatec)

[Johnny Alien]

I am selling the wheelset I currently have on my Clem. The front is 
essentially new (very very low miles) and is the stock wheel on current 
Clems which is the Alex rim and silver Novatec hub. The rear wheel is the 
older Clem wheel with the same Alex rim but a silver Deore hub vs the 
Novatec. The Deore runs a bit quieter than the Novatec which is why i 
initially kept this rear wheel. It also have the multi color nipples which 
I like. Very low miles on this wheel as well but not quite as low as the 
front (which is under 100).  I will include the cassette which is (like the 
wheel itself) low miles. 11-36 shimano compatible. $200 shipped anywhere 
relatively close to the east side of the USA. Maybe a few dollars more if 
you need it shipped to the other side. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bags and parts and wheels and maybe a 57 Quickbeam

[Robert Dowtin]

 Update:


Swift Rando bag, mount and rack for canti brakes (fit was ideal on my Crust 
CantiBolt)
$200 +shipping

Sackville Happisack Green $175 +shipping (I swapped out the chloroplast for 
harder plastic board lining)

Sackville Bannasack **SOLD**


Tires Size 42 x 700c 2 Specialized Triggers (worst tires ever in my 
opinion) 1 Terravail Cannonball (also not my favorite) lots of tread on 
both. You may have them if you pay for USPS flat rate box which I believe I 
can stuff these in for $15?

Scott Clippy MTB shoes size 48 $50 +shipping

OG unbranded Quickbeam wheelset (Front wheel pictured just after shoes, 
rear wheel pictured at bottom of the group) $200 +shipping obo

Shimano Dynamo hub tied to Alex Adventure rim 32h 700c $150 +shipping obo

Jones Bar $50 +shipping

Surly Truckstop bar NOS $60 +shipping

Seats:
Selle Anatomica is whipped, totally stretched...$15?
C17, $70  +shipping 
Brooks Black Swift **Sold**
HONEY B17 **SOLD**

Thompson Seatpost 27.1 $75 +shipping

Analog 31.8 x 30mm 90deg black stem NOS $125 +shipping

other 2 stems lets say $25 ea +shipping

White Industries 16/18 and 20/22 freewheel cogs
Both are awesome but quite scratched up $100 ea +shipping obo

Forgot to post initially that there is also a pair of Rene Herse 700x42 
knobbies pictured that I will let go for $55 shipped flat rate.

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-5 Robert Dowtin wrote:

> Update:
>
> Swift Rando bag, mount and rack for canti brakes (fit was ideal on my 
> Crust CantiBolt)
> $200 +shipping
>
> Sackville Happisack Green $175 +shipping (I swapped out the chloroplast 
> for harder plastic board lining)
>
> Sackville Bannasack **SOLD**
>
> Tires Size 42 x 700c 2 Specialized Triggers (worst tires ever in my 
> opinion) 1 Terravail Cannonball (also not my favorite) lots of tread on 
> both. You may have them if you pay for USPS flat rate box which I believe I 
> can stuff these in for $15?
>
> Scott Clippy MTB shoes size 48 $50 +shipping
>
> OG unbranded Quickbeam wheelset (Front wheel pictured just after shoes, 
> rear wheel pictured at bottom of the group) $200 +shipping obo
>
> Shimano Dynamo hub tied to Alex Adventure rim 32h 700c $150 +shipping obo
>
> Jones Bar $50 +shipping
>
> Surly Truckstop bar NOS $60 +shipping
>
> Seats:
> Selle Anatomica is whipped, totally stretched...$15?
> Brooks Black Swift, C17, $70 ea +shipping
> HONEY B17 **SOLD**
>
> Thompson Seatpost 27.1 $75 +shipping
>
> Analog 31.8 x 30mm 90deg black stem NOS $125 +shipping
>
> other 2 stems lets say $25 ea +shipping
>
> White Industries 16/18 and 20/22 freewheel cogs
> Both are awesome but quite scratched up $100 ea +shipping obo
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-5 Robert Dowtin wrote:
>
>> Hey there everyone. So, it's that time of the year again. Cleaning out 
>> things, need to make some space. Need to fund parts for other projects, 
>> etc... I'll try to list everything below in the order it appears in the 
>> google photo album linked directly below. Please email me at 
>> robert...@gmail.com off list to discuss your desired purchase. All items 
>> will ship clean, regardless of possible mud you might see in the pictures. 
>> All items have been used unless otherwise stated. All items +shipping in 
>> the lower 48. Happy to discuss shipping elsewhere, of course I'd prefer to 
>> meet and get coffee or go for a ride and let you pick up the parts however. 
>> As for the Quickbeam, it isn't pictured. I am not convinced I want to move 
>> it along but it does too much sitting right now for my tastes. I have a lot 
>> of climbing around me and just don't take it out enough. If you are dying 
>> for a 1st Gen Green Quickbeam with Phil Wood wheels, Paul Brakes, Silver 
>> Crank 39/32 x 16 is how it is set up right now, happy to send along 
>> pictures and chat. Again, I'm not convinced but for the right price or 
>> trade for another Riv, I'm sure I could be. Especially enticed by trades 
>> for other bikes, fyi...
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/868VJQABy2ecTtVw7
>>
>> Swift Rando bag, mount and rack for canti brakes (fit was ideal on my 
>> Crust CantiBolt)
>> $200 +shipping
>>
>> Sackville Happisack Green $175 +shipping (I swapped out the chloroplast 
>> for harder plastic board lining)
>>
>> Sackville Bannasack $100 +shipping
>>
>> Tires Size 42 x 700c 2 Specialized Triggers (worst tires ever in my 
>> opinion) 1 Terravail Cannonball (also not my favorite) lots of tread on 
>> both. You may have them if you pay for USPS flat rate box which I believe I 
>> can stuff these in for $15?
>>
>> Scott Clippy MTB shoes size 48 $50 +shipping
>>
>> OG unbranded Quickbeam wheelset (Front wheel pictured just after shoes, 
>> rear wheel pictured at bottom of the group) $200 +shipping obo
>>
>> Shimano Dynamo hub tied to Alex Adventure rim 32h 700c $150 +shipping obo
>>
>> Jones Bar $50 +shipping
>>
>> Surly Truckstop bar NOS $60 +shipping
>>
>> Seats:
>> Selle Anatomica is whipped, totally stretched...$15?
>> Brooks 

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I could probably do next Wednesday. Alan, let me know if you need a 
wheelset for the new Chev. I have a fairly new Alex Adventurer 2 set with a 
Shimano dynamo up front and Deore on the rear. Currently just sitting in 
the closet. Handbuilt by Honey Wheels in Brooklyn. 

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years ago, 
> I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought and 
> sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We could 
> each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, could be 
> fun.
>
> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
> Alan
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
>
> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there 
> on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
> -Kai
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
>> or another day.
>>
>> stephen
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, got it.
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>
>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
 Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?

 Alan

 On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
 (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:

> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>
> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay 
> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>> everyone else could.
>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>
>> Alan
>> UWS
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>
>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done 
>> the ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
>> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
>> your helmet inside :)
>>
>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>
>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>
>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
>> e.g. 
>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping 
>>> and biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>
>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
 there. who else is up for it?

 -stephen

 On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
 -Brooklyn NY wrote:

>
> Here’s an idea- a meet up at 

Re: [RBW] Who posted a Thomson seatpost for sale?

[luckyturnip]

Thanks, but I am looking for silver.

> On Apr 20, 2022, at 22:45, Joe Mullins  wrote:
> 
> I have a black Elite Masterpiece 27.2 setback. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 8:45 PM, luckytur...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure if it was here or iBob but someone posted a 27.2 silver layback 
>> Thomson for sale and I can’t find the listing. I am seeking one if you are 
>> the seller and it’s not sold. Send me an email please. 
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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[alan lavine]

Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years ago, I 
think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought and sold a 
few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We could each bring a 
mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, could be fun.

Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
Alan

> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from Uptown. 
> 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there on a 
> righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram rolling, 
> and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
> -Kai
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on Wednesdays so 
> I thought I’d ask.
> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week or 
>> another day.
>> 
>> stephen
>> 
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>> Okay, got it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>> 
>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in Greenpoint? 
>>> Say 4 or 5ish?
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>> 
>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
>>> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
>>> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>> everyone else could.
>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> UWS
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh > wrote:
 
>>> 
 We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done the 
 ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike lanes 
 along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear your 
 helmet inside :)
 
 in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding pass 
 ft tilden into town.
 
 i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the summer 
 and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
 
 as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep things 
 light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned e.g. 
 "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
 
 
 On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
 NY) wrote:
 Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping and 
 biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
 
 One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
 Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
 trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
 lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
 
 On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
 I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out there. 
 who else is up for it?
 
 -stephen
 
 On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:39:11 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
 wrote:
 
 Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising 
 around the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with 
 baskets and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory 
 for the Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
 -Kai
 
 On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:
 Good morning
 
 I'd like to get in on this as well.
 Murray Hill // Clem H
 
 Thanks
 Jacob
 
 On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
 Hi,