[RBW] Re: Gus Boots Willsen: First Impressions

[Erik]

Hey Chris, 

Those are just the regular, alloy Persuaders.  I think it might be the 
photos.  They definitely don't have any forward sweep.  I do keep them 
closer to level so they may look like they have more rise, but otherwise 
just the regular bars.  

On the seatpost: I don't have good digital calipers to measure, 
unfortunately.  And I'm not sure if it was the post or the tube.  With a 
working bolt in the binder, it just rotated, the only reason it was 
lowering into the tube was that I had cranked down with too much torque on 
the bolt when I was trying to get it stop rotating.  I was on the side of 
the trail and got a bit over-enthusiastic!  The post is used...I had it on 
my Susie and on my Atlantis before that.  I've had this issue a couple of 
times over the years and always chalked it up to being a bigger rider.  But 
the knurling of the post fixed it.  I did try a 27.2 seat post just to see 
if the seat tube was the wrong diameter but it wasn't even close to 
fitting.  So if the seat tube is too large, it's only by a tiny, tiny 
amount.  

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 7:14:29 AM UTC-7 CJ wrote:

> Erik,
>
> Awesome build, and beautiful bike! Your Tumbleweed Persuader bar looks 
> different than the one I have, do you have it rolled forward or something? 
> It seems like it has some forward sweep. Did you or Riv measure your 
> seatpost to see if it's undersized? Or is the seat tube opening oversized? 
> It's really unusual that you'd have to knurl the seatpost to get it not to 
> slip.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 2:00:32 AM UTC-4 Erik wrote:
>
>> After a long wait, I was finally able to pick up my new Gus Boots Willsen 
>> frame from Riv headquarters this past week.  As I've mentioned here before, 
>> I purchased a large Susie from a list member last year knowing that I was 
>> pushing the intended weight envelope.  The bike was beautiful, but I 
>> decided that I would try to pick up a Gus for the stouter tubing and 11/8 
>> steering tube.  I wanted to be able to load the thing up and take it on 
>> multi-day camping trips as well as tackle the roughest trails in my neck of 
>> the woods.   
>>
>> I have been a mountain biker for most of my life,  since I started riding 
>> back in the late 80s, and wanted a bike to replace what I knew would be my 
>> last full-suspension beast, a lovely Salsa Horsethief.  I sold the Salsa 
>> last year after deciding that I was starting to prefer the simplicity and 
>> fun of a rigid bike.  I had my Atlantis set up as a mountain-ish / 
>> hillibike with 2.2 Trail King tires and Bullmoose bars.  I was riding that 
>> bike on most of my local trails but wanted a bike that could handle much 
>> larger tires and was more purpose-built for heavier off-road duty. 
>>
>> First Impression: so worth the wait!  I've got the bike set up with my 
>> dream build, a mix of White Industries hubs/ Cliffhanger wheels built by 
>> Rich, Paul Motolite brakes and Box Car stem, White Industries 1x crank set, 
>> Garbaruk 11-50t cassette, Tumbleweed Persuader bars, Terravail 2.5 tires, 
>> and more.  I've taken the bike out for a couple of rides since I completed 
>> the build on Saturday and am finding it perfectly suited to the sort of 
>> riding I lean toward.  
>>
>> I live in the Napa Valley and took it out to Moore Creek Park near St. 
>> Helena on Sunday.  The trails in the lower part of the park are newer, with 
>> some really smooth sections, and are beautifully carved into the topography 
>> of the hills.  There's even a short flow trail section.  The Gus was really 
>> happy on all of this terrain.  I don't do jumps anymore, but the banked 
>> turns and rollers on the flow trail were a blast on the bike!  Despite the 
>> size and length of the bike, it handled really nicely on all of the 
>> singletrack. Maybe not as snappy as some of my old aggressive geometry 
>> mountain bikes, but consistent with a 29" wheeled bike.  It felt smooth and 
>> stable.  I think some of this is down to the wheelbase and some to the 
>> high-ish trail steering.  Whatever the case, it's beautifully balanced and 
>> rides like water flowing downstream.  Unfortunately, I had a problem with 
>> my seat post not wanting to stay put. In my haste to get it fixed on the 
>> trailside, I broke the seat post binder bolt and had to finish out the ride 
>> not using my seat.  Great leg exercise, but not a good way to test out the 
>> handling characteristics of the bike.  :)
>>
>> This evening I took it out to Skyline Park in Napa where they held World 
>> Cup races back in the 90s and single speed world championships more 
>> recently.  I remember watching in awe as Tinker Juarez, Thomas 
>> Frischknecht, Paola Pezzo, and all of the 90s XC stars climbed the trails 
>> in massive gears at unbelievable speeds during the world cup races.  I 
>> hadn't realized it was possible to go that fast uphill on those trails!  I 
>> certainly didn't set any land speed records tonight or 

Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik]

Just the seat post, not the seat tube.  

On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 10:45:50 AM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:

> This is the first I'm hearing that you can have tubes knurled on the 
> aftermarket... how did they do it?
>
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 8:16:15 AM UTC-7 Erik wrote:
>
>> Knurling the seat post at the collar and about three inches down the 
>> insertion into the seat tube.  Worked like a charm.  I've had this done on 
>> a bike before when I was having a problem with slipping.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 5:31:59 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> What was the fix for the slipping seat post?
>>>
>>>


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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Mackenzy Albright]

Since parts are hard to come by I had a bike shop friend help me scramble 
together a build. I had spline disc XTR rear hub in my possession, the shop 
had a lightly used SON disc hub, which was reasonably priced, and the only 
rims I could access to fit decent sized tires were Alex Adventurers 2. So 
that is how they went together! My friend had to cut all the spokes, I 
think just using what is laying around the shop. But this is the most bang 
for the buck option we could come up with - and think it will be entirely 
adequate and utilitarian!  I am trying not to build this bike up flashy at 
all. I cannot wait to see builds being posted. :) 

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> Tell us about your wheel build MacKenzy! I have a mismatched set on my 
> Clem. The stock Alex rim on the rear and a Rich built Velocity Cliffhanger 
> with a Kasai dynamo front wheel.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 11:14:40 AM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> I purchased a used Clem frame this spring. But my wheel build is finally 
>> being finalized at the shop. So I am just going to join in on the 
>> collective excitement of new bikes. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 11:42:11 PM UTC-6 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> My Gus has shipped!
 MY GUS HAS SHIPPED!

>>>
>>> I'm sitting here in the other side of the world wondering how much 
>>> longer I have to wait for that email from riv. Then I have to wait for it 
>>> to ship to the other side of the planet. Sigh. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Rene Herse front brake cable hanger, for grooved steerer, ferrule

[Patrick Moore]

Laing: Thanks, very good to know. I don't mind the Paul hanger (did you
abandon one? Silver? Care to sell?) but prefer the RH because it fits with
the spacers under the headset locknut. I have Paul cantis.

But will expand my search for a flat model as well as the grooved model.

On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 6:18 AM lconley  wrote:

> Just FYI - it is much, much easier to file a flat on a threaded steerer
> than you might think (If you are threadless this would not apply). Much
> easier than trying to file a notch or round out of the flat inside the
> hanger. Rene Herse did not have the grooved style hangers, but did have the
> flat style hangers, so I bought one and filed the threaded, grooved steerer
> on my Riv custom. Took less than five minutes. Having the groove already in
> the steerer made it very easy to center the flat and the threads meant that
> you only have to file the pointed top of the threads off, the thicker
> bottom of the threads remained undisturbed. I only filed the minimum so the
> hanger and spacers barely fit on - a nice tight fit. I might make this
> upgrade on several bikes now.
> I originally installed a Paul hanger, which is a nice quality piece, but
> kind of brutalist in the way that many Paul components are, and it was
> asymmetric due to the clamp (clamping to threaded steerers is no problem).
> The esthetics of the Rene Herse hanger are so much better, and I have Rene
> Herse centerpulls anyway.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 4:49:59 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have one of these no longer in use? Grooved, ferrule -- tho'
>> I suppose I could file a flat one round to fit my grooveless, flatless
>> steerer if the price is right.
>>
>> The steel Shimano one I have is strong and rigid but doesn't have enough
>> drop for good cable routing.
>>
>> Trade? Or cash.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Doug H.]

Tell us about your wheel build MacKenzy! I have a mismatched set on my 
Clem. The stock Alex rim on the rear and a Rich built Velocity Cliffhanger 
with a Kasai dynamo front wheel.
Doug

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 11:14:40 AM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> I purchased a used Clem frame this spring. But my wheel build is finally 
> being finalized at the shop. So I am just going to join in on the 
> collective excitement of new bikes. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 11:42:11 PM UTC-6 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> My Gus has shipped!
>>> MY GUS HAS SHIPPED!
>>>
>>
>> I'm sitting here in the other side of the world wondering how much longer 
>> I have to wait for that email from riv. Then I have to wait for it to ship 
>> to the other side of the planet. Sigh. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] My '99 Franklin Custom

[Garth]

So the Lone Peak Micro bag arrived in Red today. It looks okay, clean sides 
and all, plus it has the bungee top which greatly influenced my decision to 
buy it. I have a large olive Sackville trunk bag on my Bomba, and would 
have bought the smaller one but all they had in stock was olive. Hmmm. 
not another olive, tan yes ! Olive , no. For my upcoming custom I'll get a 
tan one if/when they are in stock, but these LP bags are adequate for what 
they are.

These are nice in that they are made for mini racks, including the extra 
loop to go over the mini rack hoop. Plus it matches the forward angle, and 
the velcro straps are in the right places. So for $50 bucks I got a 50 buck 
bag, very good ! While some readers may scoff at the fabric or the style 
and such, not everyone does and I bet some people have looked for an 
alternative to the Sackville rack top bags. Maybe you don't need or want 
bling for a certain bike. I couldn't find any other mfr who made a bag just 
for the mini rack, I only found this by sifting through all the nice but 
non-relevant options. 

The rack has a slight down tilt to it. No hacksaw @hand and for now it's 
close enough. I only see it when I look at it anyways ! 

The little bag in the water bottle is a Timbuk2 seat bag I've had a long 
time. I used it to store some tools and such. I used to have on the rear 
saddle of the Bomba but thought I'd try it elsewhere, it fits into a bottle 
cage holder just fine. It's .75L. 

I saw Wolf Tooth has what's called a B-Rad , for "Bottle Relocation and 
Accessory Device".  I may play with it some and see if I could eliminate a 
rack and top bag altogether for my upcoming custom Franklin part duo. 
Likely not, but what the hey  it's all play anyways so fun it be !  
Play with the clay ! 
 
An interesting place to put stuff would be in the upper triangle behind the 
seat tube. I wonder what I could fit in there ? I can relocate the pump 
just fine. It would have to be something non-velcro though, it just looks 
awful wrapped around frame tubes. It makes it look like a bandaged bike, no 
way !  If I had three bottle braze-ons there it "might" fit a King 
Manythings cage, which could hold a bag. I don't think there's enough 
vertical space however. The lower downtube has width considerations to be 
clear of the rings. I bought a cheap "cargo cage" from Amazon but am 
returning it as it's very cheaply made and the "stainless" steel is of the 
lowest grade I've ever seen. Hah  another "I got schnookered by the 
Jungle" purchase !  

I bought a so-called Rain Trekker jacket from MontBell . It's made from 
some supposedly super breathable and highly water resistant Gore Infinium 
Windstopper stuff. It's seam taped, been tested to be waterproof for 
extended periods. I thought it had 16.5" pit-zips like their other similar 
model, but this year they changed the fabric to Gore and eliminated them on 
this model. I'll just have to test it to see. If I can I'd rather not have 
the complexity of the extra zippers anyways and while they may help some, 
they don't compensate for fabric that doesn't breathe worth crap in the 
first place. This jacket supposedly does breathe well without them. Every 
jacket I've had with pitzips was a roaster and the zips didn't help. I'm a 
sucker for certain shades of yellow anyways, so I love the color of the 
MontBell.. It also has a greatly adjustable hood that won't flop around in 
the wind. It's not a "Cycling jacket" either, it's just called a Rain 
Trekker for anyone active outdoors, and it comes in at a cool 7 ounces, 
very squashable !  My main 3-layer "waterproof mostly" Cloudveil jacket 
I've had for some 15 years and the hood has always driven me nuts as it's 
cut too far forward of the forehead and can't be adjusted back. If I can 
wear the MontBell instead of it I'd be happy ! It also has a nice athletic 
cut, trim around the waist and ergonomically roomy around the upper body, 
with long sleeves. No body ride up or dragging anywhere, it's brilliant ! 

I should have carried it today as I was sprinting between rain clouds, at 
least it was warm enough not to freeze. My go-to not-a-rain-jacket has been 
a system of a Outdoor Research hooded windbreaker and a Mountain HardWear 
windbreaker vest. At least when I got soaked the wind wouldn't freeze me ! 
That got old though . so a MontBelli-ing we-a-go !  Ho-ho-ho ... Merry 
Christmas Everybody !  Every Day and don't you forget it !  

"message too long" popup . sheesh . is there a shortage of 
"cyberspace ? Isn't THAT laughable !  I'll post the pics separate. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Components bits, B&M Dynamo lights, Shimano hub Dynamo

[Chris]

Sorry to keep spamming the group, but I made a mistake...the dynohub is 
spoken and paid for!

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 11:35:55 AM UTC-7 Chris wrote:

> The *Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55  is still 
> available as well. *
>
> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 8:30:57 AM UTC-7 Chris wrote:
>
>> Quick update of what has sold and what is still available. I will get 
>> info, pics, and priced for the derailleurs, racks, etc. I will be selling 
>> over the weekend.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- Paul Neo Retro (1 wheels worth) - Polished Silver - Salmon Kool 
>>Stop pads $125
>>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Anodized silver - Salmon Kool 
>>Stop Pads $125
>>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Black -  Salmon Kool Stop 
>>pads. This one is missing one of the rim brake pivots. I live in Chico 
>> and 
>>can pick one up from the Paul shop  if you want to purchase the brake at 
>>$120; or you can get the brake at a discount $85 if you want to source 
>> the 
>>pivot yourself.
>>
>>
>>- *B&M Luxos IQ2 $110 (info on model 
>>
>> here:https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-luxos-u-iq2-dynamo-headlight/
>>  
>>
>> )
>>  
>>- Sold*
>>
>>
>>- *B&M Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso Plus $50*
>>
>>
>>- 1 -B&M Top Light Line PLUS rear dyno lights (1 sold, 1 remaining)
>>
>>
>>- Paul Love Lever 2.5 Left side $75
>>
>>
>>- *Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55 - Sold*
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:49:08 PM UTC-7 Chris wrote:
>>
>>> Link to pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pdq9Ny6ro6daVDVL9. I 
>>> will be sure to clean these up a little better before shipping!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:31:02 PM UTC-7 Chris wrote:
>>>
 Hi All - I am parting with some things that have been collecting dust 
 in my parts bin for the last several. I tried to make the prices 
 reasonablebut if I am way off on price, please don't hesitate to 
 correct me. Prices include shipping to the Continental US. 


- Paul Neo Retro (1 wheels worth) - Polished Silver - Salmon Kool 
Stop pads $125
- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Anodized silver - Salmon 
Kool Stop Pads $125
- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Black -  Salmon Kool Stop 
pads. This one is missing one of the rim brake pivots. I live in Chico 
 and 
can pick one up from the Paul shop  if you want to purchase the brake 
 at 
$120; or you can get the brake at a discount $85 if you want to source 
 the 
pivot yourself.
- B&M Luxos IQ2 $110 (info on model here:

 https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-luxos-u-iq2-dynamo-headlight/
)
- B&M Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso Plus $50
- 2 -B&M Top Light Line PLUS rear dyno lights
- Paul Love Lever 2.5 Left side $75
- Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55


 I will update here with picture shortly. I will also be posting some 
 old derailleurs, a Noodle bar, Mustache bar, a rear and front racks 
 shortly. 

 Thanks,

 Chris Trowbridge

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Components bits, B&M Dynamo lights, Shimano hub Dynamo

[Chris]

The *Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55  is still 
available as well. *

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 8:30:57 AM UTC-7 Chris wrote:

> Quick update of what has sold and what is still available. I will get 
> info, pics, and priced for the derailleurs, racks, etc. I will be selling 
> over the weekend.
>
>
>
>
>- Paul Neo Retro (1 wheels worth) - Polished Silver - Salmon Kool Stop 
>pads $125
>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Anodized silver - Salmon Kool 
>Stop Pads $125
>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Black -  Salmon Kool Stop 
>pads. This one is missing one of the rim brake pivots. I live in Chico and 
>can pick one up from the Paul shop  if you want to purchase the brake at 
>$120; or you can get the brake at a discount $85 if you want to source the 
>pivot yourself.
>
>
>- *B&M Luxos IQ2 $110 (info on model 
>
> here:https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-luxos-u-iq2-dynamo-headlight/
>  
>
> )
>  
>- Sold*
>
>
>- *B&M Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso Plus $50*
>
>
>- 1 -B&M Top Light Line PLUS rear dyno lights (1 sold, 1 remaining)
>
>
>- Paul Love Lever 2.5 Left side $75
>
>
>- *Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55 - Sold*
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:49:08 PM UTC-7 Chris wrote:
>
>> Link to pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pdq9Ny6ro6daVDVL9. I 
>> will be sure to clean these up a little better before shipping!
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:31:02 PM UTC-7 Chris wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All - I am parting with some things that have been collecting dust in 
>>> my parts bin for the last several. I tried to make the prices 
>>> reasonablebut if I am way off on price, please don't hesitate to 
>>> correct me. Prices include shipping to the Continental US. 
>>>
>>>
>>>- Paul Neo Retro (1 wheels worth) - Polished Silver - Salmon Kool 
>>>Stop pads $125
>>>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Anodized silver - Salmon 
>>>Kool Stop Pads $125
>>>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Black -  Salmon Kool Stop 
>>>pads. This one is missing one of the rim brake pivots. I live in Chico 
>>> and 
>>>can pick one up from the Paul shop  if you want to purchase the brake at 
>>>$120; or you can get the brake at a discount $85 if you want to source 
>>> the 
>>>pivot yourself.
>>>- B&M Luxos IQ2 $110 (info on model here:
>>>
>>> https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-luxos-u-iq2-dynamo-headlight/
>>>)
>>>- B&M Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso Plus $50
>>>- 2 -B&M Top Light Line PLUS rear dyno lights
>>>- Paul Love Lever 2.5 Left side $75
>>>- Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55
>>>
>>>
>>> I will update here with picture shortly. I will also be posting some old 
>>> derailleurs, a Noodle bar, Mustache bar, a rear and front racks shortly. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris Trowbridge
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Memorial Day Bike Ride in Boston

[Wally Estrella]

NICE! A few weeks ago I had a gang of 11 take the Reformatory Trail from 
Concord onto the Minute Man and into Boston.  The back out to Lexington 
then left over to Battle Road.  It's always a fun day! We'll try to go down 
once to twice a year.  Enjoy the ride!

When traveling back through Arlington a rider on a  Clem caught up with 
me.  We talked Riv stuff for a mile or so before he split off.  It was his 
first Riv and he LOVED it!

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 10:52:53 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I've done a few short rides with fellow member Jason who's visiting Boston 
> and we were talking about potentially riding on Monday.
>
> Anyone else around Boston interested in joining?
>
> Here is a good video with some ideas of potential routes: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Som1gex7c4k 
>
> I was thinking an easy ride starting maybe around 10am and potentially 
> heading from Somerville to the Western Greenway in Belmont and back. 
> Perhaps grab some food and call it a day. Any other suggestions welcome.
>
> Cheers!
> Max
>

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[RBW] WTB: Silver Crank Arms - 178mm

[David B]

Been a while since I've participated, so apologies for posting a 
transaction-related post as my re-entry point, but...

During some swapping of parts I noticed some cracks in my favorite vintage 
Shimano Deore cranks that are on my Redwood. Upon inspection of my other 
set of the same model that I was going to swap onto my Clem, I noticed 
cracks forming in the same spot of the driveside crank arm. So... time to 
finally get some modern cranks! Good thing I caught this before they broke 
through. 

I'm looking for Riv's Silver Crank Arms in 178mm - ideally just the crank 
arms as I have chainrings already to use. I am aware that Riv has the 178mm 
length in stock as a complete triple setup, but I really don't need the 
triple chainrings and hardware. 

So, send a PM if you can if you've got some for sale. Alternatively, if 
you're looking for the triple chainrings and bolts/spacers that come on 
this setup (https://www.rivbike.com/products/silver-crank-triple-44x34x24), 
I could order this from Riv and pass the chainrings on at a reasonable 
price.

Thanks,
David

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using an ABUS frame lock on a CLEM JR?

[Mackenzy Albright]

Thanks both Emily and Jingy! Those both look like great options. I do like 
the idea of extra security since I  built a dynamo front hub and the bike I 
so long I feel like it could make locking up much more flexible in the city 
and exceedingly ample for camping pitstops and ferry parking. 

On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 8:53:26 AM UTC-6 Jingy wrote:

> I have this Abus 5750 on my Clem Jr with fenders and 700x50 Soma Cazadero 
> tires with no clearance problems. I do need to install a shorter fender 
> bolt though, but it hasn't been an issue in the  last 1.5 years.
> One tip, don't ride around with the key in the lock-It will fall out!
> Jim in Mpls
>
> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 3:13:45 PM UTC-5 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> Mackenzy- I put a frame lock on my 59cm Clem L last fall. I think this 
>> one  is it (I 
>> got it on clearance at Clever Cycles, so it didn't have packaging). I've 
>> found it hasn't added significant weight, nor was it hard to install 
>> (definitely a LOT easier than fenders) and I've used it with both 60cm and 
>> 57cm tires, no problem. Even on muddy paths the tire clearance hasn't been 
>> an issue, surprisingly. It's a nice bit of extra security when I'm locking 
>> up around the city, so I'm a fan.
>>
>> -Emily
>>
>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:58:10 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for the input everyone. 
>>>
>>> RMROSE - there's two M4 bolts on the underside of the seat stays you can 
>>> bolt a frame lock onto. Pretty neat, I'd say! 
>>>
>>> Joe - No worries on the misspelling, the autocorrect of my life. I do 
>>> like the Otto lock, but this winter bumped the combination at the liquor 
>>> store with my mitten and it partially removed and locked up and it reset 
>>> the lock to a random code in -40 and had force it off. I was quite 
>>> surprised - but then after some internet research it is a common issue for 
>>> the lock if bumped to auto reset the combination so lost faith in them a 
>>> bit. If i was far from home and couldn't get my bike unlocked it would be a 
>>> bad day! Its a shame because I otherwise love the lock. 
>>>
>>> I think this seems to be the general consensus that they are heavy and 
>>> awkward to install. I may just wait and invest the $80cad elsewhere for 
>>> now. It's not necessary for the initial build - perhaps I'll wait until the 
>>> build is further completed. 
>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:07:31 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>>>
 I have an AXA frame lock on my 52 Clementine. It clears 650B x 50mm 
 tires and fenders, but not 27.5 x 2.4 without modification. There are 
 three 
 pairs of mounting slots in the lock. When moved to the slots that clear 
 the 
 2.4 tires, the moving part of the lock barely hits the Velocity 
 Cliffhanger 
 rims. I am going to grind/file the slots so that the lock clears the 2.4 
 tires and rim. I am also going to have to split the fender at the lock. 
 Nothing particularly difficult to to for the mechanically inclined, just a 
 lot of measure/check, cut/grind/file and repeat.
 The ABUS on a 64 will probably be something similar - fits with smaller 
 tires, requires adjustments with larger tires.

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL

 On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:43:49 AM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> I'm building a 64cm Clem right now and noticed it has the braze-ons 
> for a frame lock. It seems like a good option for bike camping and added 
> security for commuter parking. 
>
> Anyone here have experience with one? Would they work with a 2.1-2.3 
> tire? I also swear I read somewhere that the 64 has wider seat stays and 
> so 
> may need modifications. 
>


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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Components bits, B&M Dynamo lights, Shimano hub Dynamo

[Chris]

Quick update of what has sold and what is still available. I will get info, 
pics, and priced for the derailleurs, racks, etc. I will be selling over 
the weekend.


   - Paul Neo Retro (1 wheels worth) - Polished Silver - Salmon Kool Stop 
   pads $125
   - Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Anodized silver - Salmon Kool 
   Stop Pads $125
   - Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Black -  Salmon Kool Stop pads. 
   This one is missing one of the rim brake pivots. I live in Chico and can 
   pick one up from the Paul shop  if you want to purchase the brake at $120; 
   or you can get the brake at a discount $85 if you want to source the pivot 
   yourself.
   - *B&M Luxos IQ2 $110 (info on model 
   
here:https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-luxos-u-iq2-dynamo-headlight/
 
   
) 
   - Sold*
   - *B&M Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso Plus $50*
   - 1 -B&M Top Light Line PLUS rear dyno lights (1 sold, 1 remaining)
   - Paul Love Lever 2.5 Left side $75
   - *Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55 - Sold*


On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:49:08 PM UTC-7 Chris wrote:

> Link to pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pdq9Ny6ro6daVDVL9. I 
> will be sure to clean these up a little better before shipping!
>
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:31:02 PM UTC-7 Chris wrote:
>
>> Hi All - I am parting with some things that have been collecting dust in 
>> my parts bin for the last several. I tried to make the prices 
>> reasonablebut if I am way off on price, please don't hesitate to 
>> correct me. Prices include shipping to the Continental US. 
>>
>>
>>- Paul Neo Retro (1 wheels worth) - Polished Silver - Salmon Kool 
>>Stop pads $125
>>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Anodized silver - Salmon Kool 
>>Stop Pads $125
>>- Paul Touring Canti (1 wheels worth) - Black -  Salmon Kool Stop 
>>pads. This one is missing one of the rim brake pivots. I live in Chico 
>> and 
>>can pick one up from the Paul shop  if you want to purchase the brake at 
>>$120; or you can get the brake at a discount $85 if you want to source 
>> the 
>>pivot yourself.
>>- B&M Luxos IQ2 $110 (info on model here:
>>
>> https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-luxos-u-iq2-dynamo-headlight/
>>)
>>- B&M Lumotec IQ Cyo Senso Plus $50
>>- 2 -B&M Top Light Line PLUS rear dyno lights
>>- Paul Love Lever 2.5 Left side $75
>>- Shimano DH-D72Hub dynamo 32 spoke w/ centerlock $55
>>
>>
>> I will update here with picture shortly. I will also be posting some old 
>> derailleurs, a Noodle bar, Mustache bar, a rear and front racks shortly. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chris Trowbridge
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Mackenzy Albright]

I purchased a used Clem frame this spring. But my wheel build is finally 
being finalized at the shop. So I am just going to join in on the 
collective excitement of new bikes. 

On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 11:42:11 PM UTC-6 brendonoid wrote:

> My Gus has shipped!
>> MY GUS HAS SHIPPED!
>>
>
> I'm sitting here in the other side of the world wondering how much longer 
> I have to wait for that email from riv. Then I have to wait for it to ship 
> to the other side of the planet. Sigh. 
>

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[RBW] Memorial Day Bike Ride in Boston

[maxcr]

Hi Everyone,

I've done a few short rides with fellow member Jason who's visiting Boston 
and we were talking about potentially riding on Monday.

Anyone else around Boston interested in joining?

Here is a good video with some ideas of potential 
routes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Som1gex7c4k 

I was thinking an easy ride starting maybe around 10am and potentially 
heading from Somerville to the Western Greenway in Belmont and back. 
Perhaps grab some food and call it a day. Any other suggestions welcome.

Cheers!
Max

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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano front and rear derailers, crank stamp 1 pedals, Busch & Muller light

[Johnny Alien]

The light and derailers are sold. The pedals are still available.

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 9:47:27 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 9:46:45 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 9:46:22 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> [image: PXL_20220510_191307690.jpg]
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 9:45:04 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I have the following items for sale.


1. Crank stamp 1 pedals. Size small. These are in a limited edition 
color of white with gold pins.  I had them mounted once but barely 
 ridden. 
I swapped them with another color of the same pedal. Pretty much brand 
 new 
but no packaging. *$40 shipped*



 https://www.velocountry.com/Crankbrothers-Stamp-1-Bike-Pedals-Small-White-with-Gold-Pins-Summer-Edition
2. Shimano Deore FD. This came of of my new Clem. I went to 1x so 
it wasn't needed. Pulled right away so its in like new condition. *$25 
shipped*
3. Shimano Altus RD. This also came off of my new Clem. The only 
reason was I wanted to try out the big pulley Altus that I had lying 
around. This one is the newer small pulley version. Indexes to 9 
 speeds. I 
am not sure of what it will handle min/max but my guess is that it will 
work with friction for almost anything anyone in this group would want 
 to 
do. *$30 shipped* If you want both the FD and RD I will sell both 
for *$40 shipped*
4. Busch & Muller IQ2 EYC N Plus. New but with no packaging. Has 
everything you need to wire it up. 50 lux. *$30 shipped*


https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-eyc-n-plus-lumotec-iq2/



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[RBW] Re: Gus Boots Willsen: First Impressions

[CJ]

Erik,

Awesome build, and beautiful bike! Your Tumbleweed Persuader bar looks 
different than the one I have, do you have it rolled forward or something? 
It seems like it has some forward sweep. Did you or Riv measure your 
seatpost to see if it's undersized? Or is the seat tube opening oversized? 
It's really unusual that you'd have to knurl the seatpost to get it not to 
slip.

Chris


On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 2:00:32 AM UTC-4 Erik wrote:

> After a long wait, I was finally able to pick up my new Gus Boots Willsen 
> frame from Riv headquarters this past week.  As I've mentioned here before, 
> I purchased a large Susie from a list member last year knowing that I was 
> pushing the intended weight envelope.  The bike was beautiful, but I 
> decided that I would try to pick up a Gus for the stouter tubing and 11/8 
> steering tube.  I wanted to be able to load the thing up and take it on 
> multi-day camping trips as well as tackle the roughest trails in my neck of 
> the woods.   
>
> I have been a mountain biker for most of my life,  since I started riding 
> back in the late 80s, and wanted a bike to replace what I knew would be my 
> last full-suspension beast, a lovely Salsa Horsethief.  I sold the Salsa 
> last year after deciding that I was starting to prefer the simplicity and 
> fun of a rigid bike.  I had my Atlantis set up as a mountain-ish / 
> hillibike with 2.2 Trail King tires and Bullmoose bars.  I was riding that 
> bike on most of my local trails but wanted a bike that could handle much 
> larger tires and was more purpose-built for heavier off-road duty. 
>
> First Impression: so worth the wait!  I've got the bike set up with my 
> dream build, a mix of White Industries hubs/ Cliffhanger wheels built by 
> Rich, Paul Motolite brakes and Box Car stem, White Industries 1x crank set, 
> Garbaruk 11-50t cassette, Tumbleweed Persuader bars, Terravail 2.5 tires, 
> and more.  I've taken the bike out for a couple of rides since I completed 
> the build on Saturday and am finding it perfectly suited to the sort of 
> riding I lean toward.  
>
> I live in the Napa Valley and took it out to Moore Creek Park near St. 
> Helena on Sunday.  The trails in the lower part of the park are newer, with 
> some really smooth sections, and are beautifully carved into the topography 
> of the hills.  There's even a short flow trail section.  The Gus was really 
> happy on all of this terrain.  I don't do jumps anymore, but the banked 
> turns and rollers on the flow trail were a blast on the bike!  Despite the 
> size and length of the bike, it handled really nicely on all of the 
> singletrack. Maybe not as snappy as some of my old aggressive geometry 
> mountain bikes, but consistent with a 29" wheeled bike.  It felt smooth and 
> stable.  I think some of this is down to the wheelbase and some to the 
> high-ish trail steering.  Whatever the case, it's beautifully balanced and 
> rides like water flowing downstream.  Unfortunately, I had a problem with 
> my seat post not wanting to stay put. In my haste to get it fixed on the 
> trailside, I broke the seat post binder bolt and had to finish out the ride 
> not using my seat.  Great leg exercise, but not a good way to test out the 
> handling characteristics of the bike.  :)
>
> This evening I took it out to Skyline Park in Napa where they held World 
> Cup races back in the 90s and single speed world championships more 
> recently.  I remember watching in awe as Tinker Juarez, Thomas 
> Frischknecht, Paola Pezzo, and all of the 90s XC stars climbed the trails 
> in massive gears at unbelievable speeds during the world cup races.  I 
> hadn't realized it was possible to go that fast uphill on those trails!  I 
> certainly didn't set any land speed records tonight or even come close to 
> World Cup speeds, but was able to get the bike out onto some really rough, 
> rocky, technical terrain and put it through its paces.  I was surprised at 
> how easily I climbed some of the toughest sections in the first mile 
> between the western entrance by Napa Valley College and the main part of 
> the park.  That 1.5-mile stretch is really rough and really fun.  Some 
> shots are below.  I walked one very technical section in particular but was 
> able to climb and ride everything else with ease and enjoyed myself 
> immensely.  The Paul brakes and dialed in perfectly and give me incredible 
> control. 
>
> The bike handled moderate speeds on trails with lots of ruts and 
> coconut-sized rocks.  without any trouble.  It tracked really nicely and 
> stayed on my intended lines climbing and descending.  The only limitations 
> were my lungs and nerves.  I  ride a bit slower and more carefully without 
> suspension but it's just as fun and is a great mental exercise, like 
> putting together a big spatial puzzle as I decide what the bike is capable 
> of riding over or between.  
>
> So, just a couple of rides, but it's exactly what I hoped for.  Just 
> enou

[RBW] FS: Shimano front and rear derailers, crank stamp 1 pedals, Busch & Muller light

[Johnny Alien]

I have the following items for sale.


   1. Crank stamp 1 pedals. Size small. These are in a limited edition 
   color of white with gold pins.  I had them mounted once but barely ridden. 
   I swapped them with another color of the same pedal. Pretty much brand new 
   but no packaging. *$40 shipped*
   
   
   
https://www.velocountry.com/Crankbrothers-Stamp-1-Bike-Pedals-Small-White-with-Gold-Pins-Summer-Edition
   2. Shimano Deore FD. This came of of my new Clem. I went to 1x so it 
   wasn't needed. Pulled right away so its in like new condition. *$25 
   shipped*
   3. Shimano Altus RD. This also came off of my new Clem. The only reason 
   was I wanted to try out the big pulley Altus that I had lying around. This 
   one is the newer small pulley version. Indexes to 9 speeds. I am not sure 
   of what it will handle min/max but my guess is that it will work with 
   friction for almost anything anyone in this group would want to do. *$30 
   shipped* If you want both the FD and RD I will sell both for *$40 
   shipped*
   4. Busch & Muller IQ2 EYC N Plus. New but with no packaging. Has 
   everything you need to wire it up. 50 lux. *$30 shipped*
   
   https://store.biketouringnews.com/busch-muller-eyc-n-plus-lumotec-iq2/
   

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[RBW] Re: ISO: Rene Herse front brake cable hanger, for grooved steerer, ferrule

[lconley]

Just FYI - it is much, much easier to file a flat on a threaded steerer 
than you might think (If you are threadless this would not apply). Much 
easier than trying to file a notch or round out of the flat inside the 
hanger. Rene Herse did not have the grooved style hangers, but did have the 
flat style hangers, so I bought one and filed the threaded, grooved steerer 
on my Riv custom. Took less than five minutes. Having the groove already in 
the steerer made it very easy to center the flat and the threads meant that 
you only have to file the pointed top of the threads off, the thicker 
bottom of the threads remained undisturbed. I only filed the minimum so the 
hanger and spacers barely fit on - a nice tight fit. I might make this 
upgrade on several bikes now.
I originally installed a Paul hanger, which is a nice quality piece, but 
kind of brutalist in the way that many Paul components are, and it was 
asymmetric due to the clamp (clamping to threaded steerers is no problem). 
The esthetics of the Rene Herse hanger are so much better, and I have Rene 
Herse centerpulls anyway.

Laing

On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 4:49:59 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Does anyone have one of these no longer in use? Grooved, ferrule -- tho' I 
> suppose I could file a flat one round to fit my grooveless, flatless 
> steerer if the price is right.
>
> The steel Shimano one I have is strong and rigid but doesn't have enough 
> drop for good cable routing.
>
> Trade? Or cash.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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