[RBW] PSI On The Fly, maybe a favorite pump lead...

[Alex K]

The Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius thread got me thinking about PSI adjustments 
while on longer rides.  Last month I rode my 56cm 650b Atlantis from San 
Francisco to Olema via Mt. Tam and the Bolinas Ridge Fire Trail (which was 
about 13 miles and our main gravel section of the day) and back to SF via 
Samuel P. Taylor and Fairfax.  A glorious 75 mile-ride (80% road/20%gravel) 
with 6000 ft of climbing on a perfectly sunny, temperate day.  We stopped 
at Pantoll Station midway to the top of Mt. Tam and made coffee and had 
some decadent pastries and smoked salmon.  Everything was 
perfect.except for one five mile stretch at the end of the Bolinas 
Ridge Fire Trail.  A "relentless descent" characterized by obstinate cows, 
hard-packed dirt that could only be described as rutted washboard, and lots 
of time spent death-gripping my TRP brake levers on my newly mounted 666mm 
Crust Towel Rack bars.  Once past this stretch, the ride returned to its' 
earlier glory and we headed home through idyllic Marin County.  A great day 
of mixed-terrain riding.  In retrospect, though, I can't help but think 
that I could have avoided the unpleasantness of that 5-mile descent had I 
just thought to lower my PSI before getting on the fire trail.  Being that 
the first half of the ride and the final 35% of the ride would be on the 
road, I started (and finished) my day out at 42 PSI on my 48mm Rene Herse 
Switchback Hill Endurance tires.  Now I'm kicking myself for not lowering 
the pressure significantly.  And I figured that this would be a good place 
to ask for others' experience with mid-ride PSI changes.  Is this something 
that folks do regularly or are y'all more inclined to choose a PSI that 
will work on mixed terrain?  And if frequent PSI changes are the norm, what 
pumps are your favorites?  Since most (?) Riv-Riders seem to be almost 
obsessed with bags as they are with their bikes (I rode with my Fabios 
Chest L on this particular day) I figure that pump size is not as important 
as pump efficiency. 
Thanks for your consideration.
Alex

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Andrew Turner]

I'm going to retract my statement and say these XL Snoqualmie's are the 
bee's knees. They feel every bit as fast as the 28's but I can tell they 
won't beat me up as much when the mileage starts ticking. It should be 
noted that they're mounted on some very narrow Mavic Open 4 CD rims so they 
actually only measure around 37/38mm.  

I'd take things a step further and also recommend a lightweight wheelset if 
the goal is spirited riding with a light load. Nothing too crazy light, but 
putting super supple tires on stout touring wheels just seems a little 
backwards. 
On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:33:05 PM UTC-5 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Never measured the 27s and the bike they were on was stolen a few years 
> back unfortunately. I'll have to check the 40s and get back to you.
>
> I've only very briefly ridden soma shikoros. They were nice too, though I 
> have to say i didn't like them as much. They were on wildly different bikes 
> though and the shikoros were at much higher pressure so not a great 
> comparison.
>
> In that same size I have a set of mavic all road tires in 35mm to go on 
> some future build as well. Haven't ridden the 35s yet but i had the same 
> tires in 30mm that came with a mavic wheelset I bought, and they felt great 
> too actually. Mavic is definitely not my first thought for tires but they 
> were a pleasant surprise 
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 12:02 PM Chris Dedinsky  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm glad to hear it Alexander. I'm pretty set on getting a 36mm pair for 
>> my Heron touring bike, which is kinda the max clearance I think to get in 
>> there and keep my fenders. Did your 27s and or 40s measure fairly true to 
>> size? The other tires I've been leaning towards are the 38mm SOMA Shikoro's 
>> and or Supple Vitesse. I guess all this to say, 700x~35 feels good for a 
>> road and road-ish rubber radius.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 8:46:58 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris, I rode on 27mm Strada Biancas on an old Nishiki for a while and 
>>> loved them. Would have gone bigger but didn't have the clearance. Now I 
>>> have some 40mm Challenge Getaways on my CX bike. They probably the fastest 
>>> feeling tires I've ever ridden. If I end up getting the Quickbeam I am 
>>> hoping to buy soon, I plan to put some Strada Biancas in 36 or 40mm on it
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:19:17 PM UTC-5 chris@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Chris -- the Roadeo from the last Riv blast is headed my way very 
 soon! I'll let y'all know how they ride. 

 On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 
 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:

> Has anyone tried out the 36 Challenge Strada Bianca's as featured on 
> the Roadeo in the last e-blast—and if so, thoughts? 
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 2:27:26 PM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> I accidentally ended up trying Hurricane Ridge front with Snoqualmie 
>> Pass rear--as a way to salvage the two front tires from worn pairs.
>>
>> I really like the setup. I find the handling on-road closer to what I 
>> had with the 38 slicks, but there's more grip and float, esp in wet 
>> stuff.
>>
>> I'm not sure how the combo will be on wet pavement or road only 
>> rides, but I like it for what I've done so far 
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding 
>>> off road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. 
>>> Certainly there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining 
>>> the 
>>> nuances. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
 There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth 
 with a knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
 Scott - Amherst MA
 On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge 
> tires on my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly 
> well 
> off-road. Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often 
> really 
> wet as well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those 
> slippery conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike 
> honestly seems like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my 
> mind of 
> which tire I preferred.  
>
> Andrew 
> TN
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers <
> greentea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing 
>> tires (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm 

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Boscomoose (bosco-bullmoose?) handlebars.

[Carl G]

I responded directly,

Thanks.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 6:49:52 PM UTC-7 James wrote:

> I sent you a PM
>
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-4 Carl G wrote:
>
>> I bought these from Bluelug a couple of years ago (2019?) but never 
>> really used them much. I really like the integrated stem style bars but 
>> prefer the adjustability of the albatross on my Atlantis, so these need a 
>> new home.
>>
>> 58cm. Bars are in good shape. There is some small scratch marks where the 
>> stem get inserted into the headtube (see photo attached), and some leftover 
>> Newbaums glue. The tape in the photo has since been removed but some 
>> residual glue remains, if you're not going to tape them I'm sure they'll 
>> clean up nicely with a little effort.
>>
>> Hoping to get $165 shipped (contiguous U.S. only). I know bluelug lists 
>> these for under $100, but when you include shipping costs I think $165 is a 
>> pretty good deal.
>>
>> Let me know if there's any important details I left out.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [image: boscomoose1.jpg]
>> [image: boscomoose2.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Boscomoose (bosco-bullmoose?) handlebars.

[James]

I sent you a PM

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-4 Carl G wrote:

> I bought these from Bluelug a couple of years ago (2019?) but never really 
> used them much. I really like the integrated stem style bars but prefer the 
> adjustability of the albatross on my Atlantis, so these need a new home.
>
> 58cm. Bars are in good shape. There is some small scratch marks where the 
> stem get inserted into the headtube (see photo attached), and some leftover 
> Newbaums glue. The tape in the photo has since been removed but some 
> residual glue remains, if you're not going to tape them I'm sure they'll 
> clean up nicely with a little effort.
>
> Hoping to get $165 shipped (contiguous U.S. only). I know bluelug lists 
> these for under $100, but when you include shipping costs I think $165 is a 
> pretty good deal.
>
> Let me know if there's any important details I left out.
>
> Thanks!
>
> [image: boscomoose1.jpg]
> [image: boscomoose2.jpg]
>

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[RBW] FS: 64cm Riv Ram f/f/hs/sp/bb and brakes + more

[Will Ashe]

Hi Folks, 

You may recall that I posted the Ram as a complete before. Since I've 
parted some bits out, so I'm reposting with some of the remaining parts 
available separately. Shipping as marked.


   - Frameset + - Super nice paint for its age with one cable rub issue on 
   the head tube. Brakes are Dia Compe with enough reach for 700c or 650b 
   wheels. Nitto S65 seatpost. Ultegra headset. Not sure on the bottom 
   bracket. $1000 + shipping
   - Wheels - Velocity Dyad black/machined with Ultegra RH and WI FH. 
   Compass Barlow Pass EL (these have a lot of life considering they're 
   Compass). Ultegra 6700 cassette. $500 + ship
   - Crankset - Sun XCD Exceed w/ 172.5 arms as it comes from Crust 
   
.
 
   $300 + shipping. PENDING
   - Silver shifters and bar end pods. $100 shipped PENDING
   - Sim Works Bubbly Pedals in the bronze copper color. $80 shipped

Cranks, shifters, pedals, and cassette were all purchased this year and 
have light use. I'm happy to discuss deals if you'd like to purchase more 
than one item. 

Photos can be found at https://photos.app.goo.gl/EK7JJ6doJhPBmXLf9

Feel free to reach out with questions. 

Best, 
Will in Austin

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[RBW] 64 Riv Ram f/f/hs/sp/bb and brakes + more

[Will Ashe]

Hi Folks, 

You may recall that I posted the Ram as a complete before. Since I've 
parted some bits out, so I'm reposting with some of the remaining parts 
available separately. Shipping as marked.


   - Frameset + - Super nice paint for its age with one cable rub issue on 
   the head tube. Brakes are Dia Compe with enough reach for 700c or 650b 
   wheels. Nitto S65 seatpost. Ultegra headset. Not sure on the bottom 
   bracket. $1000 + shipping
   - Wheels - Velocity Dyad black/machined with Ultegra RH and WI FH. 
   Compass Barlow Pass EL (these have a lot of life considering they're 
   Compass). Ultegra 6700 cassette. $500 + ship
   - Crankset - Sun XCD Exceed w/ 172.5 arms as it comes from Crust 
   
.
 
   $300 + shipping.
   - Silver shifters and bar end pods. $100 shipped
   - Sim Works Bubbly Pedals in the bronze copper color. $80 shipped

Cranks, shifters, pedals, and cassette were all purchased this year and 
have light use. I'm happy to discuss deals if you'd like to purchase more 
than one item. 

Photos can be found at https://photos.app.goo.gl/EK7JJ6doJhPBmXLf9

Feel free to reach out with questions. 

Best, 
Will in Austin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Flyer vs. B67

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Meant B17……

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On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 5:59 PM, 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

> Roberta, you got my last one. The B67 fits my butt well but I still liked 
> that wider saddle.
>
> Glad you are enjoying it.
>
> Sent from Proton Mail for iOS
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> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 2:39 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
>> I was a lucky purchaser of one of Joel's B68 and have "happy butt." :)
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 2:03:20 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> I found the B68 an easy break in saddle, wish I had not sold them all, I am 
>>> too light for springs to have any benefit. I have no idea how the Loveland 
>>> from Rivet would be to break in. When you do find a B68 on eBay the prices 
>>> are generally pretty ridiculous.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:51:48 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 B67 or B68 (no springs) if you can find one. Or a Loveland from Rivet (no 
 springs either).

 Laing
 On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:00:13 PM UTC-4 schralp wrote:

> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this 
> esteemed group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring 
> saddles. My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. 
> Cal. Thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Flyer vs. B67

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Roberta, you got my last one. The B67 fits my butt well but I still liked that 
wider saddle.

Glad you are enjoying it.

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On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 2:39 PM, Roberta  wrote:

> I was a lucky purchaser of one of Joel's B68 and have "happy butt." :)
>
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 2:03:20 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> I found the B68 an easy break in saddle, wish I had not sold them all, I am 
>> too light for springs to have any benefit. I have no idea how the Loveland 
>> from Rivet would be to break in. When you do find a B68 on eBay the prices 
>> are generally pretty ridiculous.
>>
>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:51:48 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> B67 or B68 (no springs) if you can find one. Or a Loveland from Rivet (no 
>>> springs either).
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:00:13 PM UTC-4 schralp wrote:
>>>
 Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
 olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
 albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
 professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
 position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this 
 esteemed group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring 
 saddles. My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. 
 Cal. Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: Flyer vs. B67

[Roberta]

I was a lucky purchaser of one of Joel's B68 and have "happy butt."  :)   

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 2:03:20 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> I found the B68 an easy break in saddle, wish I had not sold them all, I 
> am too light for springs to have any benefit.  I have no idea how the 
> Loveland from Rivet would be to break in.  When you do find a B68 on eBay 
> the prices are generally pretty ridiculous.  
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:51:48 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> B67 or B68 (no springs) if you can find one. Or a Loveland from Rivet (no 
>> springs either).
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:00:13 PM UTC-4 schralp wrote:
>>
>>> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
>>> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
>>> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
>>> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
>>> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
>>> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
>>> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Gilles Berthoud Galibier, black. $225 shipped

[Igor]

Great condition. Titanium rails. $225 shipped. Rene Herse sells these for 
$319 https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...narrow-saddle/ 


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[RBW] Re: Flyer vs. B67

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I found the B68 an easy break in saddle, wish I had not sold them all, I am 
too light for springs to have any benefit.  I have no idea how the Loveland 
from Rivet would be to break in.  When you do find a B68 on eBay the prices 
are generally pretty ridiculous.  

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:51:48 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> B67 or B68 (no springs) if you can find one. Or a Loveland from Rivet (no 
> springs either).
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:00:13 PM UTC-4 schralp wrote:
>
>> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
>> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
>> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
>> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
>> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
>> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
>> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: 59 Clem L

[Jan O.]

Hi All,

I’m interested in buying a 59 Clem L. I’m looking specifically for an 
earlier one with shorter top tube. ETT 65.5, HT Angle 71.5, ST Angle 71.5. 
Grey/Silver (Grilver) color would be ideal.

Looking for Frame/Fork preferably. Please PM me if you have one you would 
like to sell.

Thank you.

Jan
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[RBW] FS: Soma Shikoro 33mm tires

[Eric Marth]

I have a set of Shikoros that have five miles on them. And that's an over 
estimate, less  actual mileage! 

Got these new from Soma in February of 2022, paid $47/each or $94 for the 
pair. 

Pair: $60 plus shipping to you. 

Thanks! 

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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

[Richard Rose]

I definitely have not. In fact, I’ve not experienced any of the reported 
problems with the B67.

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> On Aug 30, 2022, at 1:02 AM, schralp  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Do you notice the B67 impacting hamstrings given the width?
> 
>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:05:19 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>> I have both seats. I prefer the B67 for bolt upright where I’m more back on 
>> my butt,  and the Flyer goes on my mountain bikes/more lean-over bikes. 
>> Flyer is narrower by quite a bit. It’s a B17 with springs. 
>> 
 On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:00, schralp  wrote:
 
>>> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
>>> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
>>> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
>>> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
>>> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
>>> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
>>> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: New drivetrain for Rivendell #2

[lconley]

I cannot answer for Patrick, but for myself, if it were mine - better frame 
clearance for the lowest possible Q factor. Getting rid of a few unused 
grams as a bonus.
The crank will flex -> I have removed the paint (and a little metal) from 
the chain stay with the crank and chainrings on my Paramount using the 
narrowest BB that will fit (triple crank on double BB with spacers on the 
crank side cup). It clears the chain stay when static, but obviously hits 
when pedaling.

Laing
Who misspent his youth modifying Campagnolo and Stronglight chainrings.

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:15:50 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> I suppose I could question you Patrick 'till the cows come home and I'll 
> never understand why you'd want to permanently alter a perfectly good crank.
>
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