Re: [RBW] I want to see your Legolases

[Bill Lindsay]

alexander0chalmers

It's a Nobilette custom stem, that he made when he made the frame.  

BL in EC

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:08:08 AM UTC-7 alexander...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bill, is that the Fairweather x Nitto MT-31 stem? If so what bars are you 
> using? I love the look of that stem but don't have any 25.4 bars and there 
> aren't a ton of options.
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:29:36 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Ah yes! Have some older WI Sugino cranks, too. I really like them. Looks 
>> good on your Riv!
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:52:43 PM UTC-7 jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Those are ye older White Industries / Sugino 94/58bcd arms (set up 
>>> 48/30 as a 94 double)... and which directly lead to the significant 
>>> Legolas down-time, after one of the chainring bolt "ears" sheared. 
>>> Need to up my crank game, too ("WTB Ritchey 94 metoo!") 
>>>
>>> Joe 
>>>
>>> On 11/1/22, Nikko Mendoza  wrote: 
>>> > Joe, 
>>> > 
>>> > I think that looks sick. And these Minimotos are some of the best 
>>> braking 
>>> > brakes i've used (other than disc hydros). I'd definitelt suggws them, 
>>> but 
>>> > I'd say building to fit a certain (mtype of riding will help you 
>>> accept the 
>>> > bike for what it is... a cross bike. I came to terms that I like going 
>>> > fast, and I don't like technical dirt. This bike is perfect for that! 
>>> > 
>>> > What cranks are those? They look like the 110bcd Ritchey Logic cranks. 
>>> I'm 
>>> > on the hunt for some 94bcd Ritchey Compact cranks at the moment. 
>>> > 
>>> > Nikko 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>> > 
>>> >> On Nov 1, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote: 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Nikko, 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Here's mine from back in its glory days - I really should put some 
>>> >> wrench time into getting back into a serviceable shape. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> https://flic.kr/p/z8k1NT 
>>> >> 
>>> >> V-brakes might be what it takes for it to win me back but, TBH - I've 
>>> >> never been completely happy with the tire clearances / rubber 
>>> >> selections I've made, either - 700x42 is the max but x38 with knobs 
>>> is 
>>> >> more realistic. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Such a beautiful/great riding/lightweight frame otherwise! Just need 
>>> >> to acknowledge that it's a cross bike before anything else, not 
>>> really 
>>> >> the end-all/be-all dirt banger. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Joe Bunik 
>>> >> Walnut Creek, CA 
>>> >> 
>>> >>> On 11/1/22, Nikko in Oakland  wrote: 
>>> >>> yup, these are the UD 700x42mm Rosés, and certainly the biggest tire 
>>> I 
>>> >>> can 
>>> >>> fit on the bike comfortably. I also think the bike really feels at 
>>> home 
>>> >>> on 
>>> >>> 700x38mm tires, but I don't like the cornering control on steilacoom 
>>> >>> tires 
>>> >>> vs the Rosés, so I'm sticking to that. If I have to move to slicks 
>>> in 
>>> >>> the 
>>> >>> roadie form, I'll probably stick to gravel king/RH 700x35 or 
>>> 700x38mm 
>>> >>> slicks. 
>>> >>> 
>>>  On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 11:33:57 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>>  wrote: 
>>>  
>>>  All of these bikes are gorgeous. How is the clearance with the 
>>> 42's? 
>>>  The 
>>>  
>>>  legolas is a dream bike for me but have always been curious how 
>>> wide 
>>>  you 
>>>  can go if you push it a little. 
>>>  
>>>  Brian 
>>>  
>>> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:24:43 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland 
>>> > wrote: 
>>>  
>>> > oh i'm silly. that was a typo! 
>>> > 
>>> > keeping the RH cranks but changing to Athena 11s shifters and 
>>> mechs. 
>>> > 
>>> > and tires, yes. initially i had Steilacoom/Barlow Pass (700x38mm), 
>>> > then 
>>> > when i made this my dedicated dirt ride, put on the UD Rosè 
>>> (700x42mm) 
>>> > and 
>>> > they roll surprisingly well. i also like the cornering control in 
>>> dirt 
>>> > better than Steilacooms AND they corner well on the road too! 
>>> > 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>> > 
>>> > On Nov 1, 2022, at 8:02 AM, Richard Rose  
>>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > First of all, that bike is gorgeous. Athena cranks are swell but 
>>> the 
>>> > RH 
>>> > 
>>> > on there is perfect! But, talk about your tires. Rose’? 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>> > 
>>> > On Oct 31, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nikko in Oakland  
>>>
>>> > wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > Hey y'all, 
>>> > 
>>> > I recently had to let go of one bike, and the Legolas survived the 
>>> > cut. 
>>> > Now, I'm revamping my legolas to be more road-oriented while still 
>>> > dirt 
>>> > capable. RIght now, I have 10speed Bar End shifters, RH 46/30t 
>>> cranks, 
>>> > and 
>>> > an 11-36t cassette. It's plenty roadie enough, but I am getting a 
>>> set 
>>> > of 
>>> > 
>>> > Athena 11 speed cranks to lean a little bit more into roadie-ness, 
>>> and 
>>> > throwing on an 11-34t cassette to 

[RBW] Re: Zero-rise Albatross Bar?

[J S]

Kieran, I switched from Albatross to Choco.  Love the Choco bars, much more 
room for your hands and you can reverse them so they go slightly down vs. 
up.  It is a very mild rise.  

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 2:04:02 PM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:

> Honestly, I think the Choco bars are the closest thing out there. Not much 
> else comes close.
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:45:56 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Soma Three Speed bar #2 is fantastic, and while not flat, it’s pretty low 
>> profile.
>> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a handlebar that's very much like the Alba bars but 
>>> flat/no rise. Essentially an Alba-size porteur. 
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions? The Choco bars are close but not quite 
>>> flat. 
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SimpleOne

[Jared Wilson]

Such a good deal, and a very fine seller to work with.

Best of luck with the sale, Jason.

-Jared, who purchased the old wheels from this bike, in SLO, CA

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 6:15:37 PM UTC-7 jasonz...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bump for #InternationalSingleSpeedDay and a *slightly* updated build with 
> a better price point
> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/144421
>
> 56cm Rivendell SimpleOne crimson w/ cream accents… updated for you on this 
> special #InternationalSingleSpeedDay
>
>
> Im asking 1900 plus shipping as shown or 1300 shipped CONUS sans wheelset… 
> buyer to pay PayPal fees.
>
>
> here’s what’s going on now on this bike:
>
>
> Frame/fork newly painted by Rick @ D
>
> campy headset
>
> SKF jis bb (10 year warranty)
>
> Rene Herse SS 171crank 48t chainring
>
> paul funky monkey front and rear 
>
> Paul Touring Cantis in the rear (no front brake)
>
> Paul Tall and Handsome seat post
>
> nitto noodle bars
>
> brooks C17 saddle 
>
> velocity quill wheels with rear Paul flip flop hub 18 free hub/18fixed
>
> front hub is a shutter precision dyno hub
>
> ultradynamico rose/cava tires
>
> TRP brake levers 
>
> (Pedals and bottle cages not included)
> Easier to add photos and post via crust (for me).
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jason
> 
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:14:00 PM UTC-5 Jason Zakaras wrote:
>
>> Bump for #InternationalSingleSpeedDay and a *slightly* updated build 
>> with a better price point
>> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/144421
>>
>> Easier to add photos and post via crust (for me).
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:13:58 AM UTC-5 malvar...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Woah! In Omaha too!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 2:01:12 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for posting that Matt.  Yes, these are the magic-components 
 dango bros carriers. They are the sold out polished ones and really look 
 great, they work really good and wish they had them in stock when I was 
 building my QB up but ended up using the moon units for that build (also 
 fantastic)

 Per the original post, I'd be willing to take offers for this, 
 especially if someone wanted to go without the wheelset or other items. 
  Just snagged the recent Ebay 58cm hunqapillar so I'm super motivated to 
 sell this bike to make room and justify it with my lovely wife (who is 
 delivering our 5th child this month) so yeah motivated to say the least.

 cheers!

 On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 6:34:10 AM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Guessing they are these.
>
> https://crustbikes.com/products/magic-components-dango-bros
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:25:09 PM UTC-5 steve wrote:
>
>> Beautiful bike.  Where did you get the smiley face cable carriers?
>> Steve
>>
>> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:17:35 PM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A quick explanation of what's going on here:
>>>
>>> I purchased this bike a year ago and decided to polish it up to new 
>>> with some classy bits and bobs while also recruiting Rick @ D to do a 
>>> crimson & cream fully accented paint job.  In the process I stumbled 
>>> upon a 
>>> very nice 58cm Quickbeam and I feel that while the renovated bike looks 
>>> amazing, doesn't get the attention it deserves based on the way the QB 
>>> is 
>>> set up for the riding I do around my house  Everything has been 
>>> professionally updated and all the parts are new.  I've put on about 40 
>>> miles since it's been rebuilt and I think it really turned out lovely.  
>>> As 
>>> with many bikes, I feel that the price is appropriate (I'm taking a 
>>> haircut 
>>> on the bike from what I've put into it) but also would be flexible on 
>>> it as 
>>> I'd be willing to keep anything on it, especially the newly built 
>>> wheelset, 
>>> to bring your cost down.  please connect with me privately if 
>>> interested.
>>> Photos:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>> build:
>>>
>>> 56cm SimpleOne
>>>
>>> Polished Paul bits (tall n handsome + neo retro + touring cantis)
>>>
>>> Polished smiley face cable carriers
>>>
>>> Campy headset
>>>
>>> SKF jis bb 107
>>>
>>> Crust towel rack wrapped with brooks tape to match brooks b17 saddle 
>>>
>>> Rene herse 48t crank to surly 18t free hub
>>>
>>> Paul flip flop rear hub with surly 18t fix as well
>>>
>>> Front hub polished sp7 dyno
>>>
>>> Wheels polished quill 700c w/ ultradynamico grey rose/cava tires
>>>
>>> Paul Funky monkey front and rear polished
>>>
>>> Front dyne lamp and rack not included
>>>
>>> Buyer would be responsible for 

[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SimpleOne

[Jason Zakaras]

Bump for #InternationalSingleSpeedDay and a *slightly* updated build with a 
better price point
https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/144421

56cm Rivendell SimpleOne crimson w/ cream accents… updated for you on this 
special #InternationalSingleSpeedDay


Im asking 1900 plus shipping as shown or 1300 shipped CONUS sans wheelset… 
buyer to pay PayPal fees.


here’s what’s going on now on this bike:


Frame/fork newly painted by Rick @ D

campy headset

SKF jis bb (10 year warranty)

Rene Herse SS 171crank 48t chainring

paul funky monkey front and rear 

Paul Touring Cantis in the rear (no front brake)

Paul Tall and Handsome seat post

nitto noodle bars

brooks C17 saddle 

velocity quill wheels with rear Paul flip flop hub 18 free hub/18fixed

front hub is a shutter precision dyno hub

ultradynamico rose/cava tires

TRP brake levers 

(Pedals and bottle cages not included)
Easier to add photos and post via crust (for me).

Cheers!

Jason



On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:14:00 PM UTC-5 Jason Zakaras wrote:

> Bump for #InternationalSingleSpeedDay and a *slightly* updated build with 
> a better price point
> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/144421
>
> Easier to add photos and post via crust (for me).
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jason
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:13:58 AM UTC-5 malvar...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Woah! In Omaha too!
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 2:01:12 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for posting that Matt.  Yes, these are the magic-components dango 
>>> bros carriers. They are the sold out polished ones and really look great, 
>>> they work really good and wish they had them in stock when I was building 
>>> my QB up but ended up using the moon units for that build (also fantastic)
>>>
>>> Per the original post, I'd be willing to take offers for this, 
>>> especially if someone wanted to go without the wheelset or other items. 
>>>  Just snagged the recent Ebay 58cm hunqapillar so I'm super motivated to 
>>> sell this bike to make room and justify it with my lovely wife (who is 
>>> delivering our 5th child this month) so yeah motivated to say the least.
>>>
>>> cheers!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 6:34:10 AM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>
 Guessing they are these.

 https://crustbikes.com/products/magic-components-dango-bros

 Best regards,
 Matt in Oswego, IL

 On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:25:09 PM UTC-5 steve wrote:

> Beautiful bike.  Where did you get the smiley face cable carriers?
> Steve
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:17:35 PM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> A quick explanation of what's going on here:
>>
>> I purchased this bike a year ago and decided to polish it up to new 
>> with some classy bits and bobs while also recruiting Rick @ D to do a 
>> crimson & cream fully accented paint job.  In the process I stumbled 
>> upon a 
>> very nice 58cm Quickbeam and I feel that while the renovated bike looks 
>> amazing, doesn't get the attention it deserves based on the way the QB 
>> is 
>> set up for the riding I do around my house  Everything has been 
>> professionally updated and all the parts are new.  I've put on about 40 
>> miles since it's been rebuilt and I think it really turned out lovely.  
>> As 
>> with many bikes, I feel that the price is appropriate (I'm taking a 
>> haircut 
>> on the bike from what I've put into it) but also would be flexible on it 
>> as 
>> I'd be willing to keep anything on it, especially the newly built 
>> wheelset, 
>> to bring your cost down.  please connect with me privately if interested.
>> Photos:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>> build:
>>
>> 56cm SimpleOne
>>
>> Polished Paul bits (tall n handsome + neo retro + touring cantis)
>>
>> Polished smiley face cable carriers
>>
>> Campy headset
>>
>> SKF jis bb 107
>>
>> Crust towel rack wrapped with brooks tape to match brooks b17 saddle 
>>
>> Rene herse 48t crank to surly 18t free hub
>>
>> Paul flip flop rear hub with surly 18t fix as well
>>
>> Front hub polished sp7 dyno
>>
>> Wheels polished quill 700c w/ ultradynamico grey rose/cava tires
>>
>> Paul Funky monkey front and rear polished
>>
>> Front dyne lamp and rack not included
>>
>> Buyer would be responsible for shipping and PayPal fees, free local 
>> pickup in Omaha :)
>>
>> Asking $2400.00
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SimpleOne

[Jason Zakaras]

Bump for #InternationalSingleSpeedDay and a *slightly* updated build with a 
better price point
https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/144421

Easier to add photos and post via crust (for me).

Cheers!

Jason

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:13:58 AM UTC-5 malvar...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Woah! In Omaha too!
>
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 2:01:12 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for posting that Matt.  Yes, these are the magic-components dango 
>> bros carriers. They are the sold out polished ones and really look great, 
>> they work really good and wish they had them in stock when I was building 
>> my QB up but ended up using the moon units for that build (also fantastic)
>>
>> Per the original post, I'd be willing to take offers for this, especially 
>> if someone wanted to go without the wheelset or other items.  Just snagged 
>> the recent Ebay 58cm hunqapillar so I'm super motivated to sell this bike 
>> to make room and justify it with my lovely wife (who is delivering our 5th 
>> child this month) so yeah motivated to say the least.
>>
>> cheers!
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 6:34:10 AM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>>> Guessing they are these.
>>>
>>> https://crustbikes.com/products/magic-components-dango-bros
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt in Oswego, IL
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:25:09 PM UTC-5 steve wrote:
>>>
 Beautiful bike.  Where did you get the smiley face cable carriers?
 Steve

 On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:17:35 PM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> A quick explanation of what's going on here:
>
> I purchased this bike a year ago and decided to polish it up to new 
> with some classy bits and bobs while also recruiting Rick @ D to do a 
> crimson & cream fully accented paint job.  In the process I stumbled upon 
> a 
> very nice 58cm Quickbeam and I feel that while the renovated bike looks 
> amazing, doesn't get the attention it deserves based on the way the QB is 
> set up for the riding I do around my house  Everything has been 
> professionally updated and all the parts are new.  I've put on about 40 
> miles since it's been rebuilt and I think it really turned out lovely.  
> As 
> with many bikes, I feel that the price is appropriate (I'm taking a 
> haircut 
> on the bike from what I've put into it) but also would be flexible on it 
> as 
> I'd be willing to keep anything on it, especially the newly built 
> wheelset, 
> to bring your cost down.  please connect with me privately if interested.
> Photos:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
> build:
>
> 56cm SimpleOne
>
> Polished Paul bits (tall n handsome + neo retro + touring cantis)
>
> Polished smiley face cable carriers
>
> Campy headset
>
> SKF jis bb 107
>
> Crust towel rack wrapped with brooks tape to match brooks b17 saddle 
>
> Rene herse 48t crank to surly 18t free hub
>
> Paul flip flop rear hub with surly 18t fix as well
>
> Front hub polished sp7 dyno
>
> Wheels polished quill 700c w/ ultradynamico grey rose/cava tires
>
> Paul Funky monkey front and rear polished
>
> Front dyne lamp and rack not included
>
> Buyer would be responsible for shipping and PayPal fees, free local 
> pickup in Omaha :)
>
> Asking $2400.00
>


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[RBW] FS: Tumbleweed Prospector and two Bike Friday's

[a spen]

Hi Fellow Riv-ers,

Please access the link below to my Tumbleweed Prospector. The Riv 
connection is of course, Daniel Malloy, former Riv employee who struck out 
on his own to start his own adventure bike company.

Also available are two Bike Friday's.  The NWT (New World Tourist) is my 
bike, and the and the other is the Crusoe, for my spouse, possibly for 
yours or for your friend, daughter, etc. 
Better yet, by 'em both and get a package deal! ;-)

Please message me with your questions/requests (or to let me know of my 
needed corrections)

Thanks for looking,

Al in VA


Link to Tumbleweed:  

https://blacksburg.craigslist.org/bik/d/blacksburg-tumbleweed-prospector/7552937897.html


Link to Bike Friday's:

https://blacksburg.craigslist.org/bik/d/blacksburg-bike-friday-nwt-crusoe/7552892424.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe geo

[DavidP]

Garth posted these numbers for the 60cm in another thread 
:
HTA 69.6
STA  72
Effective TT  65.2 centimeters
Stack  66.6
Reach  43
Chainstay  54
Rake  6.7
Front-Center  72.6
Drop 8 cm 

-Dave

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 4:09:29 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Nope, it doesn't exist. We need Platy owners to post the effective toptube 
> measurements they get, then you'll at least know ST and ETT for these 
> frames. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:30:25 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> I just went looking for it and didn’t find it, was about to ask where it 
>> us.
>> —Liz
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 10:20, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> Have they posted the Platy geometry? It seems to me they don't publish 
>> that info anymore like they used to.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 11:08:58 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Liz,
>>> Rosco Platy geometry is identical to the Platypus frame, so you can 
>>> check those numbers.
>>> -W
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Good morning all, I apologize if this is easily obtained info but I’m 
 looking for the Roscoe Platy geometry and not finding it. I find 
 conversations about it but not the numbers. Can someone please direct me? 
 Thanks, Liz in Sacramento 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe geo

[Joe Bernard]

Nope, it doesn't exist. We need Platy owners to post the effective toptube 
measurements they get, then you'll at least know ST and ETT for these 
frames. 

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:30:25 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> I just went looking for it and didn’t find it, was about to ask where it 
> us.
> —Liz
>
> On Nov 2, 2022, at 10:20, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> Have they posted the Platy geometry? It seems to me they don't publish 
> that info anymore like they used to.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 11:08:58 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Hi Liz,
>> Rosco Platy geometry is identical to the Platypus frame, so you can check 
>> those numbers.
>> -W
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning all, I apologize if this is easily obtained info but I’m 
>>> looking for the Roscoe Platy geometry and not finding it. I find 
>>> conversations about it but not the numbers. Can someone please direct me? 
>>> Thanks, Liz in Sacramento 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Perfect tires for Clem?

[J Imler]

Oh, and I think it's an 8cm Dirt Drop, not 10 like it says on the Blahg.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 11:56:34 AM UTC-7 J Imler wrote:

> Sure. The bike was up on the Blahg 
> ,
>  
> right after the tube sizing piece. It's a two-speeder that gets me to the 
> trails and then I either pedal in the small gear or walk. I've had no issue 
> with the reverse stem making anything unstable. It feels completely natural 
> and from my eye is right where a 11cm Tallux and Bosco bar would end up. I 
> really like it.
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:07:48 AM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Hi J,
>> Will you please tell us about your stem/handlebar combo? Does reversing 
>> the stem make the steering unstable? As far as I can tell, you've got a 
>> V-brake Albastache single speed setup, and based on the terrain in your 
>> photo, it must be geared for climbing. Looks like fun!
>> -W
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 1:39:38 PM UTC-7 J Imler wrote:
>>
>>> I'm fond of Schwalbe Smart Sams in 55 sizing for all-purpose riding.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG-6906.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 7:33:36 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The impossible question, right? And when I read Riv's intro to their 
 website tire offerings "we are not tire snobs" I almost feel guilty 
 obsessing over such things. "Just ride", right? I want the "do it all" set 
 of tires (aren't we all?). I have been quite happy with the Gravelking SS 
 650 x 48 tires for all road / gravel and mild trail conditions. On a 
 single 
 foray onto a truer singletrack they fell short in loose conditions and 
 sandy corners. So after exhaustive research I am considering a 
 Ultradynamica combo, Mars front / Rose' rear. Other contender  is Soma 
 Cazadero. Naturally RH Untanum are a consideration but lack of side knobs 
 are a concern. I had Fleecer Ridge tires on my Jones 29 and did not think 
 the noise cancellation thing lived up to the hype - they were rather noisy 
 on pavement especially compared to the Gravelkings. Speaking of the 
 Gravelking, check out these pics. I was on a ride recently and felt a 
 "lump" in the rear tire on pavement. It disappeared when the ride turned 
 to 
 dirt but was there again when I returned to pavement. when I got home all 
 I 
 could discern was a slightly raised football shaped bulge and it was worn 
 smooth. Upon removal I was stunned by the amount of structural damage and 
 the fact that I did not flat. I wonder if something like this qualifies as 
 a defect? I will add the pics in a comment momentarily...
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Perfect tires for Clem?

[J Imler]

Sure. The bike was up on the Blahg 
,
 
right after the tube sizing piece. It's a two-speeder that gets me to the 
trails and then I either pedal in the small gear or walk. I've had no issue 
with the reverse stem making anything unstable. It feels completely natural 
and from my eye is right where a 11cm Tallux and Bosco bar would end up. I 
really like it.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:07:48 AM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:

> Hi J,
> Will you please tell us about your stem/handlebar combo? Does reversing 
> the stem make the steering unstable? As far as I can tell, you've got a 
> V-brake Albastache single speed setup, and based on the terrain in your 
> photo, it must be geared for climbing. Looks like fun!
> -W
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 1:39:38 PM UTC-7 J Imler wrote:
>
>> I'm fond of Schwalbe Smart Sams in 55 sizing for all-purpose riding.
>>
>> [image: IMG-6906.jpg]
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 7:33:36 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The impossible question, right? And when I read Riv's intro to their 
>>> website tire offerings "we are not tire snobs" I almost feel guilty 
>>> obsessing over such things. "Just ride", right? I want the "do it all" set 
>>> of tires (aren't we all?). I have been quite happy with the Gravelking SS 
>>> 650 x 48 tires for all road / gravel and mild trail conditions. On a single 
>>> foray onto a truer singletrack they fell short in loose conditions and 
>>> sandy corners. So after exhaustive research I am considering a 
>>> Ultradynamica combo, Mars front / Rose' rear. Other contender  is Soma 
>>> Cazadero. Naturally RH Untanum are a consideration but lack of side knobs 
>>> are a concern. I had Fleecer Ridge tires on my Jones 29 and did not think 
>>> the noise cancellation thing lived up to the hype - they were rather noisy 
>>> on pavement especially compared to the Gravelkings. Speaking of the 
>>> Gravelking, check out these pics. I was on a ride recently and felt a 
>>> "lump" in the rear tire on pavement. It disappeared when the ride turned to 
>>> dirt but was there again when I returned to pavement. when I got home all I 
>>> could discern was a slightly raised football shaped bulge and it was worn 
>>> smooth. Upon removal I was stunned by the amount of structural damage and 
>>> the fact that I did not flat. I wonder if something like this qualifies as 
>>> a defect? I will add the pics in a comment momentarily...
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] I want to see your Legolases

[Artaud]

This thread remind me how much I still want a Legolas :(
Anyone selling a frame/fork in size 57?

Denis, in NC

Le mercredi 2 novembre 2022 à 12:08:08 UTC-4, alexander...@gmail.com a 
écrit :

> Bill, is that the Fairweather x Nitto MT-31 stem? If so what bars are you 
> using? I love the look of that stem but don't have any 25.4 bars and there 
> aren't a ton of options.
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:29:36 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Ah yes! Have some older WI Sugino cranks, too. I really like them. Looks 
>> good on your Riv!
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:52:43 PM UTC-7 jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Those are ye older White Industries / Sugino 94/58bcd arms (set up 
>>> 48/30 as a 94 double)... and which directly lead to the significant 
>>> Legolas down-time, after one of the chainring bolt "ears" sheared. 
>>> Need to up my crank game, too ("WTB Ritchey 94 metoo!") 
>>>
>>> Joe 
>>>
>>> On 11/1/22, Nikko Mendoza  wrote: 
>>> > Joe, 
>>> > 
>>> > I think that looks sick. And these Minimotos are some of the best 
>>> braking 
>>> > brakes i've used (other than disc hydros). I'd definitelt suggws them, 
>>> but 
>>> > I'd say building to fit a certain (mtype of riding will help you 
>>> accept the 
>>> > bike for what it is... a cross bike. I came to terms that I like going 
>>> > fast, and I don't like technical dirt. This bike is perfect for that! 
>>> > 
>>> > What cranks are those? They look like the 110bcd Ritchey Logic cranks. 
>>> I'm 
>>> > on the hunt for some 94bcd Ritchey Compact cranks at the moment. 
>>> > 
>>> > Nikko 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>> > 
>>> >> On Nov 1, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote: 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Nikko, 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Here's mine from back in its glory days - I really should put some 
>>> >> wrench time into getting back into a serviceable shape. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> https://flic.kr/p/z8k1NT 
>>> >> 
>>> >> V-brakes might be what it takes for it to win me back but, TBH - I've 
>>> >> never been completely happy with the tire clearances / rubber 
>>> >> selections I've made, either - 700x42 is the max but x38 with knobs 
>>> is 
>>> >> more realistic. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Such a beautiful/great riding/lightweight frame otherwise! Just need 
>>> >> to acknowledge that it's a cross bike before anything else, not 
>>> really 
>>> >> the end-all/be-all dirt banger. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Joe Bunik 
>>> >> Walnut Creek, CA 
>>> >> 
>>> >>> On 11/1/22, Nikko in Oakland  wrote: 
>>> >>> yup, these are the UD 700x42mm Rosés, and certainly the biggest tire 
>>> I 
>>> >>> can 
>>> >>> fit on the bike comfortably. I also think the bike really feels at 
>>> home 
>>> >>> on 
>>> >>> 700x38mm tires, but I don't like the cornering control on steilacoom 
>>> >>> tires 
>>> >>> vs the Rosés, so I'm sticking to that. If I have to move to slicks 
>>> in 
>>> >>> the 
>>> >>> roadie form, I'll probably stick to gravel king/RH 700x35 or 
>>> 700x38mm 
>>> >>> slicks. 
>>> >>> 
>>>  On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 11:33:57 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>>  wrote: 
>>>  
>>>  All of these bikes are gorgeous. How is the clearance with the 
>>> 42's? 
>>>  The 
>>>  
>>>  legolas is a dream bike for me but have always been curious how 
>>> wide 
>>>  you 
>>>  can go if you push it a little. 
>>>  
>>>  Brian 
>>>  
>>> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:24:43 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland 
>>> > wrote: 
>>>  
>>> > oh i'm silly. that was a typo! 
>>> > 
>>> > keeping the RH cranks but changing to Athena 11s shifters and 
>>> mechs. 
>>> > 
>>> > and tires, yes. initially i had Steilacoom/Barlow Pass (700x38mm), 
>>> > then 
>>> > when i made this my dedicated dirt ride, put on the UD Rosè 
>>> (700x42mm) 
>>> > and 
>>> > they roll surprisingly well. i also like the cornering control in 
>>> dirt 
>>> > better than Steilacooms AND they corner well on the road too! 
>>> > 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>> > 
>>> > On Nov 1, 2022, at 8:02 AM, Richard Rose  
>>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > First of all, that bike is gorgeous. Athena cranks are swell but 
>>> the 
>>> > RH 
>>> > 
>>> > on there is perfect! But, talk about your tires. Rose’? 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>>> > 
>>> > On Oct 31, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nikko in Oakland  
>>>
>>> > wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > Hey y'all, 
>>> > 
>>> > I recently had to let go of one bike, and the Legolas survived the 
>>> > cut. 
>>> > Now, I'm revamping my legolas to be more road-oriented while still 
>>> > dirt 
>>> > capable. RIght now, I have 10speed Bar End shifters, RH 46/30t 
>>> cranks, 
>>> > and 
>>> > an 11-36t cassette. It's plenty roadie enough, but I am getting a 
>>> set 
>>> > of 
>>> > 
>>> > Athena 11 speed cranks to lean a little bit more into roadie-ness, 
>>> and 
>>> > throwing on an 11-34t 

[RBW] Re: Zero-rise Albatross Bar?

[Kieran J]

Honestly, I think the Choco bars are the closest thing out there. Not much 
else comes close.

KJ


On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:45:56 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Soma Three Speed bar #2 is fantastic, and while not flat, it’s pretty low 
> profile.
> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a handlebar that's very much like the Alba bars but 
>> flat/no rise. Essentially an Alba-size porteur. 
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions? The Choco bars are close but not quite flat. 
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe geo

[luckyturnip]

I just went looking for it and didn’t find it, was about to ask where it us.
—Liz

> On Nov 2, 2022, at 10:20, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> Have they posted the Platy geometry? It seems to me they don't publish that 
> info anymore like they used to.
> 
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 11:08:58 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>> Hi Liz,
>> Rosco Platy geometry is identical to the Platypus frame, so you can check 
>> those numbers.
>> -W
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>> Good morning all, I apologize if this is easily obtained info but I’m 
>>> looking for the Roscoe Platy geometry and not finding it. I find 
>>> conversations about it but not the numbers. Can someone please direct me? 
>>> Thanks, Liz in Sacramento
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[RBW] Re: Roscoe geo

[Johnny Alien]

Have they posted the Platy geometry? It seems to me they don't publish that 
info anymore like they used to.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 11:08:58 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> Hi Liz,
> Rosco Platy geometry is identical to the Platypus frame, so you can check 
> those numbers.
> -W
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Good morning all, I apologize if this is easily obtained info but I’m 
>> looking for the Roscoe Platy geometry and not finding it. I find 
>> conversations about it but not the numbers. Can someone please direct me? 
>> Thanks, Liz in Sacramento 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo 2022

[JAS]

Thank you for the photos and narratives!  It was really nice to put names 
with faces of our RivSisters & Brothers and hear all about the Expo 
Experience.  Joining you someday in Philly is probably not a possibility, 
but your reports allow one to live vicariously.  

Leah, you are such a talented writer.  I'm always thoroughly entertained 
whether on this forum or via Instagram.  Keep it up!  

Joyce 



On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:43:44 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yay, our new sister! Have her get in this list or at least follow me 
> on Instagram (@bicyclebelledingding)!!! I think Pam sent me a photo of your 
> wife so I’m glad to know you’re on here. If she loves the Clem I dare say 
> she will love the Platy even more. I rode my Clem 21.9 miles yesterday in 
> total comfort the but Platy is even better. 
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Re: [RBW] I want to see your Legolases

[Alexander Chalmers]

Bill, is that the Fairweather x Nitto MT-31 stem? If so what bars are you 
using? I love the look of that stem but don't have any 25.4 bars and there 
aren't a ton of options.

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 5:29:36 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Ah yes! Have some older WI Sugino cranks, too. I really like them. Looks 
> good on your Riv!
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:52:43 PM UTC-7 jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Those are ye older White Industries / Sugino 94/58bcd arms (set up 
>> 48/30 as a 94 double)... and which directly lead to the significant 
>> Legolas down-time, after one of the chainring bolt "ears" sheared. 
>> Need to up my crank game, too ("WTB Ritchey 94 metoo!") 
>>
>> Joe 
>>
>> On 11/1/22, Nikko Mendoza  wrote: 
>> > Joe, 
>> > 
>> > I think that looks sick. And these Minimotos are some of the best 
>> braking 
>> > brakes i've used (other than disc hydros). I'd definitelt suggws them, 
>> but 
>> > I'd say building to fit a certain (mtype of riding will help you accept 
>> the 
>> > bike for what it is... a cross bike. I came to terms that I like going 
>> > fast, and I don't like technical dirt. This bike is perfect for that! 
>> > 
>> > What cranks are those? They look like the 110bcd Ritchey Logic cranks. 
>> I'm 
>> > on the hunt for some 94bcd Ritchey Compact cranks at the moment. 
>> > 
>> > Nikko 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> >> On Nov 1, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Nikko, 
>> >> 
>> >> Here's mine from back in its glory days - I really should put some 
>> >> wrench time into getting back into a serviceable shape. 
>> >> 
>> >> https://flic.kr/p/z8k1NT 
>> >> 
>> >> V-brakes might be what it takes for it to win me back but, TBH - I've 
>> >> never been completely happy with the tire clearances / rubber 
>> >> selections I've made, either - 700x42 is the max but x38 with knobs is 
>> >> more realistic. 
>> >> 
>> >> Such a beautiful/great riding/lightweight frame otherwise! Just need 
>> >> to acknowledge that it's a cross bike before anything else, not really 
>> >> the end-all/be-all dirt banger. 
>> >> 
>> >> Joe Bunik 
>> >> Walnut Creek, CA 
>> >> 
>> >>> On 11/1/22, Nikko in Oakland  wrote: 
>> >>> yup, these are the UD 700x42mm Rosés, and certainly the biggest tire 
>> I 
>> >>> can 
>> >>> fit on the bike comfortably. I also think the bike really feels at 
>> home 
>> >>> on 
>> >>> 700x38mm tires, but I don't like the cornering control on steilacoom 
>> >>> tires 
>> >>> vs the Rosés, so I'm sticking to that. If I have to move to slicks in 
>> >>> the 
>> >>> roadie form, I'll probably stick to gravel king/RH 700x35 or 700x38mm 
>> >>> slicks. 
>> >>> 
>>  On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 11:33:57 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote: 
>>  
>>  All of these bikes are gorgeous. How is the clearance with the 42's? 
>>  The 
>>  
>>  legolas is a dream bike for me but have always been curious how wide 
>>  you 
>>  can go if you push it a little. 
>>  
>>  Brian 
>>  
>> > On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:24:43 AM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland 
>> > wrote: 
>>  
>> > oh i'm silly. that was a typo! 
>> > 
>> > keeping the RH cranks but changing to Athena 11s shifters and 
>> mechs. 
>> > 
>> > and tires, yes. initially i had Steilacoom/Barlow Pass (700x38mm), 
>> > then 
>> > when i made this my dedicated dirt ride, put on the UD Rosè 
>> (700x42mm) 
>> > and 
>> > they roll surprisingly well. i also like the cornering control in 
>> dirt 
>> > better than Steilacooms AND they corner well on the road too! 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> > On Nov 1, 2022, at 8:02 AM, Richard Rose  
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > First of all, that bike is gorgeous. Athena cranks are swell but 
>> the 
>> > RH 
>> > 
>> > on there is perfect! But, talk about your tires. Rose’? 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 
>> > 
>> > On Oct 31, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nikko in Oakland  
>>
>> > wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hey y'all, 
>> > 
>> > I recently had to let go of one bike, and the Legolas survived the 
>> > cut. 
>> > Now, I'm revamping my legolas to be more road-oriented while still 
>> > dirt 
>> > capable. RIght now, I have 10speed Bar End shifters, RH 46/30t 
>> cranks, 
>> > and 
>> > an 11-36t cassette. It's plenty roadie enough, but I am getting a 
>> set 
>> > of 
>> > 
>> > Athena 11 speed cranks to lean a little bit more into roadie-ness, 
>> and 
>> > throwing on an 11-34t cassette to still stay dirt capable. 
>> > 
>> > But I am here because I need build inspiration. Can y'all share 
>> pics 
>> > of 
>> > your legolas in it's *fastest *state? me first, ya? 
>> > 
>> > I rotated the bars downward a little bit since this photo, but you 
>> get 
>> > the idea. 
>> > 
>> > [image: IMG_9561.jpeg] 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Paul, Nitto, Campagnolo, Wheels, Cages, Bags

[Alexander Chalmers]

Are the prices for tires pre tire or for the entire set?

Also someone should buy that M1377 bar. Got them on my cross bike and they 
are super comfortable, and of course beautiful as usual for Nitto. 

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:59:19 AM UTC-5 S. Greco wrote:

> *Updated with price drops and additional info!*
>
> *Prices do not include shipping - send me a zip and I'll get you a quote.*
>
> *Likely $20-$30 for handlebars & bags, $30 - $50 for wheels, happy to 
> combine for discounts :) **Some pics available here. 
> 
>  More 
> photos available upon request.*
>
> *Open to offers!*
>
> *Nitto:*
>
> - MAP Ahearne 57 Lightly Silver Used $60
>
> - NITTO Noodle 46 Lightly Silver Used $60
>
> - NITTO Noodle 48 New Silver $80
>
> - NITTO M1377 SSB 31.8 54 Silver - Lightly Used $80 - basically the same 
> as the Crust Shaka but 31.8
>
> - CRUST Shaka bar 26.0 54 Silver - New $110
>
>
> *Campagnolo:*
>
> - Campy C-Record-Era Chorus Partial Group Used $250:
>
> Campagnolo Crank 172.5 53/39 Used
>
> Campagnolo Monopaner calipers Excellent Condition
>
> Campagnolo Short Cage Rear Derailleur Used
>
> Campagnolo Front Derailleur 28.6 Used
>
>
> - Campagnolo Chorus Rear Derailleur short cage carbon NOS - 2 available - 
> $200 each
>
> - Campagnolo Veloce CT FD 32.0 clamp NOS $40
>
> - Campagnolo Victory Crankset 170 52/39 Lightly Used $100
>
> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Record Carbon 10 Spd - Lightly Used - $200
>
> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Chorus Carbon 10 Spd- Lightly Used - $180
>
>
> *Paul:*
>
> - Canti-Levers - Black Anodized - old style with the hollow pivot and clip 
> versus the new type with the bearings - 2 sets - Used $100 each.
>
> - Racer M set - Green Anodized - with green spring adjusters and moon 
> units - Lightly Used $575
>
>
> *Wheelsets:*
>
> - 650b Velocity Dyad laced to 32 Hole Mavic MR601 hubs with matching 
> skewers. 130 spaced. SRAM 9 speed cassette. $350
>
> - 700C Pacenti PL23 laced to 36 Hole White Industries MI5 hubs $350
>
>
> *Tires:*
>
> - Used Grand Bois Cypres 30. QTY 3 (700c) - $40
>
> - Usd Grand Bois Cerf 26 QTY 2 (700c) - $40
>
> - Used Grand Bois Hetre 42 QTY 2 (650b) - $40
>
>
> *Bags:*
>
> - Ruth Works 8” Tan/Green Camo $220
>
> - Ruth Works 10” Black Camo $190 - slight tear along one inner pocket.
>
>
> *Cages:*
>
> - King Cages $20 Each - 7 available - buy all 7 for $100 SOLD
>
> - Nitto R Cages $40 Each - 3 available - buy all 3 for $100 SOLD
>
> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 2:00:33 PM UTC-4 S. Greco wrote:
>
>> 36 hole
>>
>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 1:49:15 PM UTC-4 Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>>> What’s the spoke count? Thanks…sky
>>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, S. Greco  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the campy clarification Jingy.
>>>
>>> 700c wheelset is also $350 + shipping
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 9:56:59 AM UTC-4 Jingy wrote:
>>>
 That's not Campy C-Record stuff, it's 1st gen Chorus. But it is 
 C-Record era(late 80's)
 Jim

 On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 6:37:32 AM UTC-5 Sky Coulter wrote:

> Did i miss the price for mi5 hubpacenti wheelset?
>
> On Oct 28, 2022, at 8:08 AM, S. Greco  wrote:
>
> I made the photo link public, sorry to all that had to request 
> access. I'll be uploading some more photos later, drop me a email if 
> you'd 
> like to see something specific. $190 for the Edelux headlight. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:28:17 AM UTC-4 S. Greco wrote:
>
>> *Prices do not include shipping - send me a zip and I'll get you a 
>> quote.*
>>
>> *Likely $20-$30 for handlebars & bags, $30 - $50 for wheels, happy to 
>> combine for discounts :) **Some pics available here. 
>> 
>>  
>> More photos available upon request.*
>>
>> *Open to offers!*
>>
>> *Nitto:*
>>
>> - MAP Ahearne 57 Lightly Used $70
>>
>> - NITTO Noodle 46 Lightly Used $70
>>
>> - NITTO Noodle 48 New $90
>>
>> - NITTO M1377 SSB 31.8 54 - Lightly Used $80 - basically the same as 
>> the Crust Shaka but 31.8
>>
>> - CRUST Shaka bar 26.0 54 - New $110
>>
>>
>> *Campagnolo:*
>>
>> - Campy C-Record Partial Group Used $300:
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Era Crank 172.5 53/39 Used
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Era Monopaner calipers Excellent Condition
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Short Cage Rear Derailleur Used
>>
>> Campagnolo C Record Front Derailleur 28.6 Used
>>
>>
>> - Campagnolo Chorus Rear Derailleur short cage carbon NOS - 2 
>> available - $250 each
>>
>> - Campagnolo Veloce CT FD 32.0 clamp NOS $40
>>
>> - Campagnolo Victory Crankset 170 52/39 Lightly Used $100
>>
>> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Record Carbon 10 Spd - Lightly Used - $250
>>

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[Mark C]

My Rosco Platypus came with the fork off, but lots of extra packing added 
to the box by Rivendell. I ordered the Park derailleur alignment tool since 
that is the bike shop standard and not that much money. I was surprised how 
far the tab was out of alignment, but it was no big deal to put it right. 
It is probably a good idea to watch a couple videos if you haven't seen one 
used before. It took me a little longer than expected to finish putting 
mine together since I had a lot of parts decisions to sort out, but got to 
ride it the day after the frame arrived. These are amazing bikes.

BTW, I really like how Will routed the rear brake cable on his Platypus 
more or less straight to the V brake noodle instead of going up then down, 
so I did something similar. I'm surprised this isn't the standard build 
now. You can just barely see it with the staff bike pictures on their site.
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/wills-60cm-platypus
I ran just a bit longer housing at the rear and decided that needed a wire 
tie or twine to bring it closer to the frame. Will's looks shorter/tighter 
and probably didn't need that.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:52:14 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> There is one on Amazon for 37.50 that is a clone of the Park:
>
> [image: tool.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:47:19 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you  Laing for the derailleur hanger alignment tool tip. I think 
>> I'll order this one from Nashbar, only $54.95.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nashbar.com/super-b-derailleur-hanger-alignment-gauge-silver-tb-1946/p1398199?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqoibBhDUARIsAH2OpWgTQxYdht-0vbnpE-So3anrX8FnoYvXu0tfPrjzHaAV72CFexJOtlkaAtXGEALw_wcB
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being 
>>> packed and shipped!
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/
>>>
>>> Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
 Scott

 AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open 
 the box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One 
 can see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames 
 than 5 years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the 
 level of service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,

 John Hawrylak
 Woodstown NJ

 On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:

> Joe:
>
> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and 
> posed a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket 
> statement about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was 
> told they receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and 
> that 
> a F/F I purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to 
> me. My "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. 
> There wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be 
> done on F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new 
> shipping label on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am 
> a 
> little bummed I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is 
> properly aligned after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt 
> the 
> threads are chased.
>
> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should 
> be part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger 
> position somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to 
> travel and pay to have it done, anyways.
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the 
> threads 
> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>
> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up 
> on 
> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the 
> Platypus 
> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a 
> mixte 
> type road bike.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and 

[RBW] Re: Roscoe geo

[Wesley]

Hi Liz,
Rosco Platy geometry is identical to the Platypus frame, so you can check 
those numbers.
-W

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Good morning all, I apologize if this is easily obtained info but I’m 
> looking for the Roscoe Platy geometry and not finding it. I find 
> conversations about it but not the numbers. Can someone please direct me?
> Thanks, Liz in Sacramento 

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[RBW] Re: Perfect tires for Clem?

[Wesley]

Hi J,
Will you please tell us about your stem/handlebar combo? Does reversing the 
stem make the steering unstable? As far as I can tell, you've got a V-brake 
Albastache single speed setup, and based on the terrain in your photo, it 
must be geared for climbing. Looks like fun!
-W

On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 1:39:38 PM UTC-7 J Imler wrote:

> I'm fond of Schwalbe Smart Sams in 55 sizing for all-purpose riding.
>
> [image: IMG-6906.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 7:33:36 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The impossible question, right? And when I read Riv's intro to their 
>> website tire offerings "we are not tire snobs" I almost feel guilty 
>> obsessing over such things. "Just ride", right? I want the "do it all" set 
>> of tires (aren't we all?). I have been quite happy with the Gravelking SS 
>> 650 x 48 tires for all road / gravel and mild trail conditions. On a single 
>> foray onto a truer singletrack they fell short in loose conditions and 
>> sandy corners. So after exhaustive research I am considering a 
>> Ultradynamica combo, Mars front / Rose' rear. Other contender  is Soma 
>> Cazadero. Naturally RH Untanum are a consideration but lack of side knobs 
>> are a concern. I had Fleecer Ridge tires on my Jones 29 and did not think 
>> the noise cancellation thing lived up to the hype - they were rather noisy 
>> on pavement especially compared to the Gravelkings. Speaking of the 
>> Gravelking, check out these pics. I was on a ride recently and felt a 
>> "lump" in the rear tire on pavement. It disappeared when the ride turned to 
>> dirt but was there again when I returned to pavement. when I got home all I 
>> could discern was a slightly raised football shaped bulge and it was worn 
>> smooth. Upon removal I was stunned by the amount of structural damage and 
>> the fact that I did not flat. I wonder if something like this qualifies as 
>> a defect? I will add the pics in a comment momentarily...
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Perfect tires for Clem?

[Hoch in ut]

I’ve been running RH Untanum on my Romanceur. I’m not sure how aggressive 
of a tire you’re looking for,  But it had plenty of side knob traction on 
some single track I rode. Lots of loose over hard. I’m not sure how rowdy 
you get on the Clem, but these tires have been enough, or possibly too 
aggressive of a tire for me. I may go with GK SS next time around. 

Another tire that worked well for me was Teravail Ehline. I had the 29” 
version but they come in 27.5 as well. 
On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 6:32:17 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Herse tires have become ubiquitous. I suppose with good reason.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 2, 2022, at 1:30 AM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>
> Not quite the same tire sizes, but as far as tread goes, I really wasn't 
> impressed by the Ultradynamico Mars when I ran the 26 x 2.3 (JFF) version 
> on my Velo Orange Polyvalent two summers ago. They were very loud and slow 
> on pavement, and only marginally more capable on light trail than the RH 
> Rat Trap Passes I was previously running (and switched back to). I'm sure 
> more gnarly trails like what Ron rides up in New England these days are a 
> different story altogether, and probably where the Mars shines. But not 
> really an all-road tire.
>
>
> For what it's worth I do really like the RH knobbies on my Homer, but 
> they're 700c x 42.
>
>
>
> Le mardi 1 novembre 2022 à 17:51:00 UTC-7, rmro...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> I forgot about another interesting(?) option - 650b x 55 Simworks Homage. 
>> Anyone tried them?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2022, at 7:38 PM, Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>> This doesn't answer your question or help really but I thought I'd share 
>> that I run Grand Bois Hetre 42 mm tires on my Clem L. I do road riding 
>> almost exclusively nowadays and they roll well. They even work on the wide 
>> Cliffhanger rims. It seems a Clem can be set up for many different tasks.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 4:39:38 PM UTC-4 J Imler wrote:
>>
>>> I'm fond of Schwalbe Smart Sams in 55 sizing for all-purpose riding.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG-6906.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 7:33:36 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The impossible question, right? And when I read Riv's intro to their 
 website tire offerings "we are not tire snobs" I almost feel guilty 
 obsessing over such things. "Just ride", right? I want the "do it all" set 
 of tires (aren't we all?). I have been quite happy with the Gravelking SS 
 650 x 48 tires for all road / gravel and mild trail conditions. On a 
 single 
 foray onto a truer singletrack they fell short in loose conditions and 
 sandy corners. So after exhaustive research I am considering a 
 Ultradynamica combo, Mars front / Rose' rear. Other contender  is Soma 
 Cazadero. Naturally RH Untanum are a consideration but lack of side knobs 
 are a concern. I had Fleecer Ridge tires on my Jones 29 and did not think 
 the noise cancellation thing lived up to the hype - they were rather noisy 
 on pavement especially compared to the Gravelkings. Speaking of the 
 Gravelking, check out these pics. I was on a ride recently and felt a 
 "lump" in the rear tire on pavement. It disappeared when the ride turned 
 to 
 dirt but was there again when I returned to pavement. when I got home all 
 I 
 could discern was a slightly raised football shaped bulge and it was worn 
 smooth. Upon removal I was stunned by the amount of structural damage and 
 the fact that I did not flat. I wonder if something like this qualifies as 
 a defect? I will add the pics in a comment momentarily...
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[JohnS]

Thank you  Laing for the derailleur hanger alignment tool tip. I think I'll 
order this one from Nashbar, only $54.95.

https://www.nashbar.com/super-b-derailleur-hanger-alignment-gauge-silver-tb-1946/p1398199?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqoibBhDUARIsAH2OpWgTQxYdht-0vbnpE-So3anrX8FnoYvXu0tfPrjzHaAV72CFexJOtlkaAtXGEALw_wcB

JohnS

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being packed 
> and shipped!
> https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/
>
> Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?
>
> -Dave
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Scott
>>
>> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
>> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
>> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
>> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
>> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Joe:
>>>
>>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>>> chased.
>>>
>>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
>>> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
>>> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads 
>>> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>>
>>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>>> type road bike.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>>> out in mere hours. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
>>> did during the pandemic.
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
>>> up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>>
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>>> have evened out by now. 
>>>
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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[RBW] Roscoe geo

[luckyturnip]

Good morning all, I apologize if this is easily obtained info but I’m looking 
for the Roscoe Platy geometry and not finding it. I find conversations about it 
but not the numbers. Can someone please direct me?
Thanks, Liz in Sacramento 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Paul, Nitto, Campagnolo, Wheels, Cages, Bags

[S. Greco]

*Updated with price drops and additional info!*

*Prices do not include shipping - send me a zip and I'll get you a quote.*

*Likely $20-$30 for handlebars & bags, $30 - $50 for wheels, happy to 
combine for discounts :) **Some pics available here. 
 
More 
photos available upon request.*

*Open to offers!*

*Nitto:*

- MAP Ahearne 57 Lightly Silver Used $60

- NITTO Noodle 46 Lightly Silver Used $60

- NITTO Noodle 48 New Silver $80

- NITTO M1377 SSB 31.8 54 Silver - Lightly Used $80 - basically the same as 
the Crust Shaka but 31.8

- CRUST Shaka bar 26.0 54 Silver - New $110


*Campagnolo:*

- Campy C-Record-Era Chorus Partial Group Used $250:

Campagnolo Crank 172.5 53/39 Used

Campagnolo Monopaner calipers Excellent Condition

Campagnolo Short Cage Rear Derailleur Used

Campagnolo Front Derailleur 28.6 Used


- Campagnolo Chorus Rear Derailleur short cage carbon NOS - 2 available - 
$200 each

- Campagnolo Veloce CT FD 32.0 clamp NOS $40

- Campagnolo Victory Crankset 170 52/39 Lightly Used $100

- Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Record Carbon 10 Spd - Lightly Used - $200

- Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Chorus Carbon 10 Spd- Lightly Used - $180


*Paul:*

- Canti-Levers - Black Anodized - old style with the hollow pivot and clip 
versus the new type with the bearings - 2 sets - Used $100 each.

- Racer M set - Green Anodized - with green spring adjusters and moon units 
- Lightly Used $575


*Wheelsets:*

- 650b Velocity Dyad laced to 32 Hole Mavic MR601 hubs with matching 
skewers. 130 spaced. SRAM 9 speed cassette. $350

- 700C Pacenti PL23 laced to 36 Hole White Industries MI5 hubs $350


*Tires:*

- Used Grand Bois Cypres 30. QTY 3 (700c) - $40

- Usd Grand Bois Cerf 26 QTY 2 (700c) - $40

- Used Grand Bois Hetre 42 QTY 2 (650b) - $40


*Bags:*

- Ruth Works 8” Tan/Green Camo $220

- Ruth Works 10” Black Camo $190 - slight tear along one inner pocket.


*Cages:*

- King Cages $20 Each - 7 available - buy all 7 for $100 SOLD

- Nitto R Cages $40 Each - 3 available - buy all 3 for $100 SOLD

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 2:00:33 PM UTC-4 S. Greco wrote:

> 36 hole
>
> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 1:49:15 PM UTC-4 Sky Coulter wrote:
>
>> What’s the spoke count? Thanks…sky
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2022, at 10:23 AM, S. Greco  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the campy clarification Jingy.
>>
>> 700c wheelset is also $350 + shipping
>>
>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 9:56:59 AM UTC-4 Jingy wrote:
>>
>>> That's not Campy C-Record stuff, it's 1st gen Chorus. But it is C-Record 
>>> era(late 80's)
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 6:37:32 AM UTC-5 Sky Coulter wrote:
>>>
 Did i miss the price for mi5 hubpacenti wheelset?

 On Oct 28, 2022, at 8:08 AM, S. Greco  wrote:

 I made the photo link public, sorry to all that had to request access. 
 I'll be uploading some more photos later, drop me a email if you'd like to 
 see something specific. $190 for the Edelux headlight. 



 On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 10:28:17 AM UTC-4 S. Greco wrote:

> *Prices do not include shipping - send me a zip and I'll get you a 
> quote.*
>
> *Likely $20-$30 for handlebars & bags, $30 - $50 for wheels, happy to 
> combine for discounts :) **Some pics available here. 
> 
>  
> More photos available upon request.*
>
> *Open to offers!*
>
> *Nitto:*
>
> - MAP Ahearne 57 Lightly Used $70
>
> - NITTO Noodle 46 Lightly Used $70
>
> - NITTO Noodle 48 New $90
>
> - NITTO M1377 SSB 31.8 54 - Lightly Used $80 - basically the same as 
> the Crust Shaka but 31.8
>
> - CRUST Shaka bar 26.0 54 - New $110
>
>
> *Campagnolo:*
>
> - Campy C-Record Partial Group Used $300:
>
> Campagnolo C Record Era Crank 172.5 53/39 Used
>
> Campagnolo C Record Era Monopaner calipers Excellent Condition
>
> Campagnolo C Record Short Cage Rear Derailleur Used
>
> Campagnolo C Record Front Derailleur 28.6 Used
>
>
> - Campagnolo Chorus Rear Derailleur short cage carbon NOS - 2 
> available - $250 each
>
> - Campagnolo Veloce CT FD 32.0 clamp NOS $40
>
> - Campagnolo Victory Crankset 170 52/39 Lightly Used $100
>
> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Record Carbon 10 Spd - Lightly Used - $250
>
> - Campagnolo Ergo Levers - Chorus Carbon 10 Spd- Lightly Used - $200
>
>
> *Paul:*
>
> - Canti-Levers - Black Anodized - old style with the hollow pivot and 
> clip versus the new type with the bearings - 2 sets - Used $100 each.
>
> - Racer M set - Green Anodized - with green spring adjusters and moon 
> units - Lightly Used $600
>
>
> *Wheelsets:*
>
> - 650b Velocity Dyad laced to Mavic MR601 hubs with matching skewers. 
> 

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

[DavidP]

An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being packed 
and shipped!
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/

Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?

-Dave

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Scott
>
> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>> chased.
>>
>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
>> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
>> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
>> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>> type road bike.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>> out in mere hours. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
>> during the pandemic.
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
>> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
>> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
>> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
>> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>> have evened out by now. 
>>
>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Perfect tires for Clem?

[Richard Rose]

The Herse tires have become ubiquitous. I suppose with good reason.

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> On Nov 2, 2022, at 1:30 AM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
> Not quite the same tire sizes, but as far as tread goes, I really wasn't 
> impressed by the Ultradynamico Mars when I ran the 26 x 2.3 (JFF) version on 
> my Velo Orange Polyvalent two summers ago. They were very loud and slow on 
> pavement, and only marginally more capable on light trail than the RH Rat 
> Trap Passes I was previously running (and switched back to). I'm sure more 
> gnarly trails like what Ron rides up in New England these days are a 
> different story altogether, and probably where the Mars shines. But not 
> really an all-road tire.
> 
> For what it's worth I do really like the RH knobbies on my Homer, but they're 
> 700c x 42.
> 
> 
> 
>> Le mardi 1 novembre 2022 à 17:51:00 UTC-7, rmro...@gmail.com a écrit :
>> I forgot about another interesting(?) option - 650b x 55 Simworks Homage. 
>> Anyone tried them?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Nov 1, 2022, at 7:38 PM, Doug H.  wrote:
 
>>> This doesn't answer your question or help really but I thought I'd share 
>>> that I run Grand Bois Hetre 42 mm tires on my Clem L. I do road riding 
>>> almost exclusively nowadays and they roll well. They even work on the wide 
>>> Cliffhanger rims. It seems a Clem can be set up for many different tasks.
>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 4:39:38 PM UTC-4 J Imler wrote:
> I'm fond of Schwalbe Smart Sams in 55 sizing for all-purpose riding.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 7:33:36 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The impossible question, right? And when I read Riv's intro to their 
>> website tire offerings "we are not tire snobs" I almost feel guilty 
>> obsessing over such things. "Just ride", right? I want the "do it all" 
>> set of tires (aren't we all?). I have been quite happy with the 
>> Gravelking SS 650 x 48 tires for all road / gravel and mild trail 
>> conditions. On a single foray onto a truer singletrack they fell short 
>> in loose conditions and sandy corners. So after exhaustive research I am 
>> considering a Ultradynamica combo, Mars front / Rose' rear. Other 
>> contender  is Soma Cazadero. Naturally RH Untanum are a consideration 
>> but lack of side knobs are a concern. I had Fleecer Ridge tires on my 
>> Jones 29 and did not think the noise cancellation thing lived up to the 
>> hype - they were rather noisy on pavement especially compared to the 
>> Gravelkings. Speaking of the Gravelking, check out these pics. I was on 
>> a ride recently and felt a "lump" in the rear tire on pavement. It 
>> disappeared when the ride turned to dirt but was there again when I 
>> returned to pavement. when I got home all I could discern was a slightly 
>> raised football shaped bulge and it was worn smooth. Upon removal I was 
>> stunned by the amount of structural damage and the fact that I did not 
>> flat. I wonder if something like this qualifies as a defect? I will add 
>> the pics in a comment momentarily...
 
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