Re: [RBW] Re: San Francisco/Bay Area Riv Riders

[Luke Hendrickson]

Epic! Anyone open to an afternoon/evening ride this coming Saturday? Meet 
around 5/530 and enjoy a sunset ride into Marin or something?
On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 2:54:19 PM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> Count me in. I finally put the Sam together now that it isn’t too freezing 
> cold out in the shed. 
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg][image: 
> image3.jpeg]
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Brendan Willard
> Owner/Winemaker
> Phantômé Cellars
>
> phantomecellars.com 
>
> Speaking in Thumbs 
>
> On Jan 22, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
> wrote:
>
> Ride soon-ish? Was thinking about an evening ramble one weekend or maybe 
> a morning mosey. Anyone game? If not, I could be persuaded to engage in a 
> Sunday frolic.   
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 4:23:32 AM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Well, insomnia has struck and I’m in no shape to do this ride. I hope 
>> that y’all will take this opportunity to meet up anyway.
>>
>> Until next time,
>>
>> Luke
>>
>> On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all! Conditions still look favorable tomorrow so I’ll be at Coffee 
>>> Movement at 10 and we’ll roll at 10:30. Hope to see you there 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-8 
>>> ericyue...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I'm out of town pretty much the whole first half of January but would 
 love to join a ride soon.  I hope you all have a great time on the 1st!  
 Also, related to this, do any Peninsula folks have a shop they receommend? 
  
 Palo Alto Cyclery is the only place I've found that carries anything I'm 
 looking for, but I never enjoy being in there.  I need to get my Sam tuned 
 up soon and would prefer to not have to take it up to SF.

 On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 1:25:14 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson 
 wrote:

> No preference here 
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:30:27 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in 
> SF wrote:
>
>> Let's follow up on the 15th with a ride in the North, South, or East 
>> Bay.  Preferences?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 9:53:26 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that’s a great idea, Brendan.   Where were you thinking?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 10:51:29 PM UTC-7 Brendan Willard 
>>> in SF wrote:
>>>
 If I’m not getting too far ahead here, I’d love to look at another 
 ride 2 weeks after this one. I could do the 14th or 15th anywhere in 
 the 
 Bay Area. 


 Thanks,
 -Brendan Willard
 Owner/Winemaker
 Phantômé Cellars

 phantomecellars.com 

 Speaking in Thumbs 

 On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:54 PM, Ahmed Elgasseir <
 aelga...@castilleja.org> wrote:

 

 Me too!!! Sorry to miss it!!! 

 On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 7:32 PM Brendan Willard  
 wrote:

> Looks like a fun time! I’ll look forward to the next ride in the 
> New Year. 
>
> Thanks,
> -Brendan Willard
> Owner/Winemaker
> Phantômé Cellars
>
> phantomecellars.com 
>
> Speaking in Thumbs 
>
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 6:34 PM, Luke Hendrickson <
> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:
>
> Ah shit… I’m out of town rn and didn’t bother to check! I guess 
> New Year’s Day then, huh?
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 6:59:15 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard 
> wrote:
>
>> Is this rain or shine? Cuz this is what you're looking at for the 
>> next week. 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 3:35:25 PM UTC-8 Luke 
>> Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all!
>>>
>>> 10am meet on 12/31 at Coffee Movement (1737 Balboa) followed by 
>>> a 10:30am departure with potential stops at Golden Boy, Red’s Java, 
>>> and 
>>> Farley’s (that’s the lil’ Potrero detour built into the ride) 
>>> followed by a 
>>> leisurely cruise to the top of Twin Peaks. Here’s the route 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> The ride can of course continue after the end of the above 
>>> suggested course. Either way, the main point of this is to have a 
>>> chill, 
>>> friendly meandering around the City before kicking off 2023.
>>>
>>> Feel free to dm me with any questions!
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:54:17 PM UTC-7 Luke 
>>> Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 Matthew – sick!

 Nicholas – you bet!

 Ahmed – it’d be great to have you. 

 I’ll be posting a 

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Johnny Alien]

I guess the odds are that Rivendell is completely sold out but I have 
always learned to call and ask. I have gotten all kinds of sold out stuff 
from them because they "didn't know they had it" or "forgot to list it"

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:18 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> About $400. (+ what Joe said)
>
> I ended up buying a regular/swoopy Platy but it was the Rosco (and its 
> price) that first got me thinking about the possibilities of a Riv 
> step-through.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 5:56:23 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> What’s the diff between the Platy and Rosco Platy ?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:46 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Also of anybody wants the 55 Mermaid Rosco Platy prototype it may still 
>>> be there. I thought Riv was going to post it for sale but I've never seen 
>>> it..call em up! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:44:02 PM UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Regarding end of year stock:  They were restocked on the site at end of 
 year with a limited amount and have all sold.

 Regarding Crust:  I think they just have the Platy in stock, not the 
 Rosco Platy.

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:16:26 AM UTC-6 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for 
> shipping.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien  
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the 
>> year that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco 
>> Platy. Its not listed on the site though. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey.  
>>>
>>> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  
>>> Could be a frameset or possibly a complete.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Dan
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Bags - Banana Seat Bag and Candy Handlebar Bag Set

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump on these, $90 net to me

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 1:50:23 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I've got two Baggins bags for sale I'm selling as a set:
>
> The Banana Bag shows the most wear/beausage/patina. No rips in the fabric, 
> just well used. The leather piping shows some cracks and there's some 
> reflective red rape on some of the leather. Stiffener along the top of the 
> bag is present. Overall the bag is darker than the Candy Bag. The Candy bag 
> is in much better shape, shows a lot less use. I believe these were both 
> made by Duluth Pack back in the day.
>
> Looking for $100 net to me 
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/AcCS4HqUancMnRdq5
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Keith Paugh]

Thanks Kieran!Beautiful collection of bikes. Fun to see.k.On Jan 24, 2023, at 5:47 PM, Kieran J  wrote:Those are the cream Longboards that Riv used to sell. KJOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-8 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:The fenders were SKS. I was surprised.On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:58:28 PM UTC-6 Keith P. wrote:Anyone know who makes those cream fenders on the Curt & Ram?k.On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:52 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:Yeah, I kind of want that grey Hilsen ... When's my birthday?  Two weeks away!BL in ECOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! I've got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill suggested. Paint was really nice.The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to arrange shipping.-BrianOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint Louis??) TomOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.Frank On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able to find someone to take it off your hands. As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are the giveaway) On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. Thanks, everyone.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Kieran J]

Those are the cream Longboards that Riv used to sell. 

KJ


On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-8 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:

> The fenders were SKS. I was surprised.
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:58:28 PM UTC-6 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Anyone know who makes those cream fenders on the Curt & Ram?
>> k.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:52 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I kind of want that grey Hilsen ... When's my birthday?  Two weeks 
>>> away!
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! 
 I've got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.

 The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill 
 suggested. Paint was really nice.

 The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of 
 the slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.

 The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked 
 like it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.

 The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. 
 Again could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.

 All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The 
 seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide 
 whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't 
 seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel 
 him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to 
 arrange shipping.

 -Brian

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen 
> eyes here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer 
> accurate information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to 
> Saint Louis??) 
> Tom
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually 
>> tried to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the 
>> business. He refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about 
>> never 
>> building again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to 
>> own.
>> Frank 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
>>> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to 
>>> run. They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's 
>>> builds are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that 
>>> and 
>>> they have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b 
>>> bike 
>>> that would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become 
>>> popular. I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as 
>>> fine as a Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll 
>>> certainly be able to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>>>
>>> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made 
>>> by Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs. 
>>>  If 
>>> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it 
>>> might as 
>>> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>>>
>>> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
>>> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
>>> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs 
>>> are 
>>> the giveaway)
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at 
>>> them. 
>>> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where 
>>> all 
>>> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume 
>>> the 
>>> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one 
>>> likely 
>>> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to 
>>> be 
>>> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when 
>>> I 
>>> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming 
>>> the 
>>> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
>>> Thanks, everyone.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[matt miller]

The fenders were SKS. I was surprised.
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:58:28 PM UTC-6 Keith P. wrote:

> Anyone know who makes those cream fenders on the Curt & Ram?
> k.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:52 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I kind of want that grey Hilsen ... When's my birthday?  Two weeks 
>> away!
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! 
>>> I've got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.
>>>
>>> The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill 
>>> suggested. Paint was really nice.
>>>
>>> The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the 
>>> slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.
>>>
>>> The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked 
>>> like it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.
>>>
>>> The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. 
>>> Again could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.
>>>
>>> All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The 
>>> seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide 
>>> whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't 
>>> seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel 
>>> him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to 
>>> arrange shipping.
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
 What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen 
 eyes here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer 
 accurate information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to 
 Saint Louis??) 
 Tom

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually 
> tried to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the 
> business. He refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about 
> never 
> building again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to 
> own.
> Frank 
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
>> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
>> They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's 
>> builds 
>> are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and 
>> they 
>> have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike 
>> that 
>> would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become 
>> popular. 
>> I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
>> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be 
>> able 
>> to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>>
>> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
>> Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
>> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might 
>> as 
>> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>>
>> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
>> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
>> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs 
>> are 
>> the giveaway)
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>> 
>>  
>> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at 
>> them. 
>> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
>> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
>> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one 
>> likely 
>> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to 
>> be 
>> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when 
>> I 
>> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming 
>> the 
>> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
>> Thanks, everyone.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Keith Paugh]

Anyone know who makes those cream fenders on the Curt & Ram?
k.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:52 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Yeah, I kind of want that grey Hilsen ... When's my birthday?  Two weeks
> away!
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv!
>> I've got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.
>>
>> The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill
>> suggested. Paint was really nice.
>>
>> The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the
>> slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.
>>
>> The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like
>> it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.
>>
>> The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again
>> could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.
>>
>> All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The
>> seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide
>> whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't
>> seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel
>> him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to
>> arrange shipping.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>>> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen
>>> eyes here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer
>>> accurate information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to
>>> Saint Louis??)
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>
 Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried
 to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He
 refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building
 again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
 Frank

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run.
> They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds
> are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they
> have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that
> would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular.
> I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a
> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be 
> able
> to find someone to take it off your hands.
>
> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by
> Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If
> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might 
> as
> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one.
>
> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the
> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and
> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are
> the giveaway)
>
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes
> 
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them.
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models.
> Thanks, everyone.
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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Stephen]

Eric! Done it again, looks great! 

I really dug seeing your process with patina-ing the steel and brass bits. 
Reminds of a residential construction project I worked on that had a steel 
retaining wall that was treated (maybe with a similar acid wash.. not sure) 
to accelerate the rusting/patina. It turned a really nice purple. The 
intentional metal oxidation plus the thoughtfulness/cleanness of the build 
creates a really beautiful dynamic. I agree silver parts just look right on 
this bike.

How are you liking it and the ride so far? How does it compare to your 
hillborne and appaloosa? Planning to take it on some overnighters? Anything 
you wish you had done differently?

Definitely giving me the bug to do another bike build myself... hopefully 
sometime soon.

Cheers,

Stephen

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:02:55 PM UTC-5 Greg Simmons wrote:

> Eric, 
>
> Very nicely done! Provides a great example of the vast continuum of 
> choices available when you approach a build. I really need to make the leap 
> to a generator hub; the lighting looks great also! This one especially 
> spoke to me, as I found an MB/2 some years back that eventually also became 
> a project (In 1988, it was MB/2, not MB-2, strangely enough). It's been my 
> daily commuter for  six years come February. Where did those 6 years 
> go? *Tempus fugit, vita brevis, ars longa,* all that. Not that it is 
> anything special, but if you wanted to compare to your '85, here's an album 
> link that I hope will work and not make a mess: 1988 Bridgestone MB/2 
> 
>
> Thanks for sharing, much enjoyed the video (and the earlier ones)!
>
> Greg Simmons
> Boone, NC
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> 

[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Bill Lindsay]

Yeah, I kind of want that grey Hilsen ... When's my birthday?  Two weeks 
away!

BL in EC

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! I've 
> got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.
>
> The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill 
> suggested. Paint was really nice.
>
> The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the 
> slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.
>
> The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like 
> it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.
>
> The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again 
> could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.
>
> All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The 
> seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide 
> whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't 
> seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel 
> him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to 
> arrange shipping.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes 
>> here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate 
>> information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint 
>> Louis??) 
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried 
>>> to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
>>> refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
>>> again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
>>> Frank 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
 Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
 They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds 
 are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they 
 have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that 
 would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. 
 I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
 Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be 
 able 
 to find someone to take it off your hands. 

 As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
 Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
 the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might 
 as 
 well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 

 The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
 re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
 re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are 
 the giveaway)
  

 On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
 
  
 for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
 There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
 the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
 grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
 custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
 fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
 ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
 boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
 Thanks, everyone.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[DavidP]

About $400. (+ what Joe said)

I ended up buying a regular/swoopy Platy but it was the Rosco (and its 
price) that first got me thinking about the possibilities of a Riv 
step-through.

-Dave

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 5:56:23 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> What’s the diff between the Platy and Rosco Platy ?
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:46 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Also of anybody wants the 55 Mermaid Rosco Platy prototype it may still 
>> be there. I thought Riv was going to post it for sale but I've never seen 
>> it..call em up! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:44:02 PM UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding end of year stock:  They were restocked on the site at end of 
>>> year with a limited amount and have all sold.
>>>
>>> Regarding Crust:  I think they just have the Platy in stock, not the 
>>> Rosco Platy.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:16:26 AM UTC-6 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for 
 shipping.

 On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien  
 wrote:

> Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the 
> year that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco 
> Platy. Its not listed on the site though. 
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey.  
>>
>> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  
>> Could be a frameset or possibly a complete.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Dan
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Joe Bernard]

Ack! Forgot the Rosco link. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august




On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 3:02:50 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This link is the long version. Shorter: It's TIG-welded instead of lugged, 
> doesn't have the midstays in the rear triangle. To my eye it's a more 
> utilitarian-looking Platypus. That's a compliment cuz I also think it looks 
> like a non-lugged version of my custom. 
>
> [image: Screenshot_20230124_150220.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:56:23 PM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> What’s the diff between the Platy and Rosco Platy ?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:46 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Also of anybody wants the 55 Mermaid Rosco Platy prototype it may still 
>>> be there. I thought Riv was going to post it for sale but I've never seen 
>>> it..call em up! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:44:02 PM UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Regarding end of year stock:  They were restocked on the site at end of 
 year with a limited amount and have all sold.

 Regarding Crust:  I think they just have the Platy in stock, not the 
 Rosco Platy.

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:16:26 AM UTC-6 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for 
> shipping.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien  
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the 
>> year that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco 
>> Platy. Its not listed on the site though. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey.  
>>>
>>> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  
>>> Could be a frameset or possibly a complete.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Dan
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Eliot Balogh]

What’s the diff between the Platy and Rosco Platy ?

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:46 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Also of anybody wants the 55 Mermaid Rosco Platy prototype it may still be
> there. I thought Riv was going to post it for sale but I've never seen
> it..call em up!
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:44:02 PM UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Regarding end of year stock:  They were restocked on the site at end of
>> year with a limited amount and have all sold.
>>
>> Regarding Crust:  I think they just have the Platy in stock, not the
>> Rosco Platy.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:16:26 AM UTC-6 eliot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for
>>> shipping.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the
 year that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco
 Platy. Its not listed on the site though.

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Hey.
>
> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could
> be a frameset or possibly a complete.
>
> Thanks
> -Dan
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Joe Bernard]

Also of anybody wants the 55 Mermaid Rosco Platy prototype it may still be 
there. I thought Riv was going to post it for sale but I've never seen 
it..call em up! 

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:44:02 PM UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:

> Regarding end of year stock:  They were restocked on the site at end of 
> year with a limited amount and have all sold.
>
> Regarding Crust:  I think they just have the Platy in stock, not the Rosco 
> Platy.
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:16:26 AM UTC-6 eliot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for 
>> shipping.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the 
>>> year that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco 
>>> Platy. Its not listed on the site though. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey.  

 Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could 
 be a frameset or possibly a complete.

 Thanks
 -Dan

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[J G]

Regarding end of year stock:  They were restocked on the site at end of 
year with a limited amount and have all sold.

Regarding Crust:  I think they just have the Platy in stock, not the Rosco 
Platy.

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:16:26 AM UTC-6 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for 
> shipping.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the year 
>> that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco Platy. 
>> Its not listed on the site though. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey.  
>>>
>>> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could 
>>> be a frameset or possibly a complete.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Dan
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Esbit cooksets

[Franklyn Wu]

The CS985HA set has been claimed. 

The CS585HA is still available.

Franklyn

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:37:02 PM UTC-8 Franklyn Wu wrote:

> I have a couple of Esbit cooksets for sale: 
>
>1. Esbit aluminum alloy cookset CS985HA 
>
> .
>  
>It can be used with both solid fuels as well as Esbit alcohol stove. It 
>doesn't come with the stove (you can get it or any other similarly 
>dimension stove for not very much). Lightly used, comes with the carry 
> bag. 
>$25 + shipping.
>2. Esbit alumnum alloy cookset CS585HA 
>
> .
>  
>This is for solid fuels only. This is the 585ml version. The solid fuel 
>receptacle is a little jagged but still usable. Will include 4-6 solid 
> fuel 
>tablets. $10 + shipping.
>
> Pictures here: CL ad 
> 
> .
>
> Franklyn
> Berkeley, CA
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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Tom Goodmann]

Congratulations, Brian!  And thanks for sharing this information.  

--Tom

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:31:31 PM UTC-5 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! I've 
> got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.
>
> The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill 
> suggested. Paint was really nice.
>
> The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the 
> slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.
>
> The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like 
> it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.
>
> The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again 
> could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.
>
> All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The 
> seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide 
> whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't 
> seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel 
> him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to 
> arrange shipping.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes 
>> here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate 
>> information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint 
>> Louis??) 
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried 
>>> to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
>>> refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
>>> again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
>>> Frank 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
 Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
 They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds 
 are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they 
 have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that 
 would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. 
 I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
 Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be 
 able 
 to find someone to take it off your hands. 

 As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
 Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
 the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might 
 as 
 well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 

 The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
 re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
 re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are 
 the giveaway)
  

 On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
 
  
 for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
 There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
 the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
 grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
 custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
 fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
 ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
 boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
 Thanks, everyone.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Nikko in Oakland]

If you don't mind us inquiring, about how much $$$ was the seller looking 
for on any of the builds? 

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! I've 
> got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.
>
> The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill 
> suggested. Paint was really nice.
>
> The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the 
> slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.
>
> The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like 
> it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.
>
> The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again 
> could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.
>
> All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The 
> seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide 
> whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't 
> seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel 
> him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to 
> arrange shipping.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes 
>> here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate 
>> information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint 
>> Louis??) 
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried 
>>> to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
>>> refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
>>> again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
>>> Frank 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
 Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
 They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds 
 are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they 
 have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that 
 would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. 
 I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
 Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be 
 able 
 to find someone to take it off your hands. 

 As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
 Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
 the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might 
 as 
 well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 

 The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
 re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
 re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are 
 the giveaway)
  

 On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
 
  
 for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
 There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
 the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
 grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
 custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
 fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
 ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
 boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
 Thanks, everyone.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tumbleweed Rack, Jones Bar, Schwalbe Tires

[Joe D.]

Tumbleweed rack has sold.

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:39:08 PM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:

> Jones Bar/Grips and Tires
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:37:21 PM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:
>
>> Rack pictures.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Brian Forsee]

I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! I've 
got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.

The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill 
suggested. Paint was really nice.

The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the 
slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.

The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like 
it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.

The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again 
could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.

All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The 
seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide 
whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't 
seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel 
him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to 
arrange shipping.

-Brian

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes 
> here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate 
> information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint 
> Louis??) 
> Tom
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>
>> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried 
>> to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
>> refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
>> again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
>> Frank 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
>>> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
>>> They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds 
>>> are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they 
>>> have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that 
>>> would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. 
>>> I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
>>> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
>>> to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>>>
>>> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
>>> Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
>>> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as 
>>> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>>>
>>> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
>>> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
>>> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are 
>>> the giveaway)
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
>>> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
>>> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
>>> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
>>> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
>>> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
>>> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
>>> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
>>> Thanks, everyone.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Greg Simmons]

Eric, 

Very nicely done! Provides a great example of the vast continuum of choices 
available when you approach a build. I really need to make the leap to a 
generator hub; the lighting looks great also! This one especially spoke to 
me, as I found an MB/2 some years back that eventually also became a 
project (In 1988, it was MB/2, not MB-2, strangely enough). It's been my 
daily commuter for  six years come February. Where did those 6 years 
go? *Tempus fugit, vita brevis, ars longa,* all that. Not that it is 
anything special, but if you wanted to compare to your '85, here's an album 
link that I hope will work and not make a mess: 1988 Bridgestone MB/2 


Thanks for sharing, much enjoyed the video (and the earlier ones)!

Greg Simmons
Boone, NC

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:06:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>
> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>
> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>
> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>
> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>
> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>
> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
> which I shaped and finished. 
>
> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>
> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>
> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed them: 
> Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>
> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
> • Kasai 32H front hub
> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
> • Busch + Müller light mount
> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
> • Suntour Superbe levers
> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
> • MKS XC-III pedals
> • Suntour AR front derailer
> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
> • Brooks Conquest saddle
> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
> • Sim Works x Hoshi
> • M5 brass socket head screws
> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>
> Larger pictures here: 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks for lookin'! 
>

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[RBW] WTB: Suntour XC Pro 28.6 MicroDrive FD

[JW]

Hey group,

Looking for a Suntour XC Pro 28.6 MicroDrive FD for the compact triple on 
my Platypus.

Please respond off list if you have something that fits the bill.

Thanks :)

Jared in SLO, CA

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[RBW] Re: Help me "Riv" my bike fit, Please!

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dave

I sent you PM with an Excel file to help you select the correct stem length

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:42:15 AM UTC-5 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I'm building up a Sam Hillborne and this is my first Riv build. I'm not 
> sure where to start with stack and reach. Coming from your typical roadie 
> fit I'm not sure how much shorter to make my reach and taller to make my 
> stack in order to get that coveted Rivendell riding position. I'm trying to 
> get this right with as few stem purchases and bar wrap jobs as possible! 
> Are there any general rules of thumb here? This build will be a drop bar 
> build.
>
> My handlebar (not frame) XY position is as follows:
> Stack 626mm
> Reach 498mm
> Appreciate any help you can give me!
>
> For reference, my Fred Sled: (excuse the flat tires)[image: 
> purple.jpg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Eliot Balogh]

Crust has all sizes right now. You don’t even have to pay twice for
shipping.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 5:23 AM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the year
> that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco Platy.
> Its not listed on the site though.
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey.
>>
>> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could be
>> a frameset or possibly a complete.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Dan
>>
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[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for having a look Jim, Ryan, Eliot and Reginald!

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 12:05:46 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Nice build! Very well thought out. Nice video on the build also. Been 
> looking at bike builds on YouTube. Yours is one of the better ones. Have 
> fun on it. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Tom Goodmann]

What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes 
here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate 
information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint 
Louis??) 
Tom

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried to 
> get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
> refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
> again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
> Frank 
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
>> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
>> They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds 
>> are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they 
>> have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that 
>> would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. 
>> I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
>> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
>> to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>>
>> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
>> Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
>> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as 
>> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>>
>> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
>> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
>> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are 
>> the giveaway)
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>> 
>>  
>> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
>> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
>> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
>> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
>> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
>> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
>> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
>> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
>> Thanks, everyone.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Johnny Alien]

Maybe you should call and ask Rivendell. They said at the end of the year 
that they had some back stock of all sizes and colors of the Rosco Platy. 
Its not listed on the site though. 

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey.  
>
> Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could be 
> a frameset or possibly a complete.
>
> Thanks
> -Dan
>

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Frank Brose]

Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried to 
get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
Frank 

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. They 
> are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds are 
> second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they have 
> a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that would 
> fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. I've 
> had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
> to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>
> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by Curt 
> Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If the 
> builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as 
> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>
> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the re-paint 
> (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and re-painted 
> Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are the 
> giveaway)
>  
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>  
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
> Thanks, everyone.
>

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[iamkeith]

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. They 
are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds are 
second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they have 
a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that would 
fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. I've 
had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
to find someone to take it off your hands. 

As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by Curt 
Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If the 
builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as 
well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 

The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the re-paint 
(and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and re-painted 
Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are the 
giveaway)
 

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
 
for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
Thanks, everyone.

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[RBW] WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Dan Vee]

Hey.

Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could be a
frameset or possibly a complete.

Thanks
-Dan

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Frank Brose]

Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. They 
are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds are 
second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they have 
a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that would 
fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. I've 
had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
to find someone to take it off your hands. 
Frank

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>  
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
> Thanks, everyone.

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