[RBW] Re: Snow? In California??

[Jason Fuller]

It's pretty neat to see the Joe Custom in the snow... not something I ever 
expected to see. I went for a ride today that was _supposed_ to become a 
snow ride based on the forecast, but it was just those tiny frozen pellets 
that just pummelled my eyeballs but didn't accumulate.  However, since my 
afternoon ride there has been three inches (and counting) of snow 
accumulation.  So tomorrow I shall get out for some "Riv winter riding" 
photos (unless I take the mountain bike instead... which is likely at this 
rate) 

On Saturday, 25 February 2023 at 17:49:26 UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I should have ridden my Roadini today, but I hadn't planned on the road 
> closure on highway 9 changing my plans --- I ended up riding over the top 
> of Black Mountain instead. The Roadini with 38mm tires would have made 
> short work of the traverse from Montebello Raod to Page Mill road, but 
> instead I had to do a bit of walking on my Ti frame:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/jByQDSJXSCW5J2ZvnBqXaA.YOnzpq3Ogen0W4B7u1g_hr
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 4:46:42 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yes indeed! So I did what must be done. I rode my Riv. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> [image: Screenshot_20230224_164337.jpg][image: 
>> Screenshot_20230224_164346.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Free: Susie Frame

[R. Alexis]

Benjamin,

Do you still have the Susie frame and fork? 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 3:20:02 PM UTC-5 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: image.jpg][image: image.jpg][image: image.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 3:48:41 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Echoing Keith with “bummer”, but I gotta say I can’t see any downsides to 
>> fillet brazing here. The steel tore alongside the fillet. The fact that 
>> it’s actually torn and not cracked there is as much proof as I’d need to 
>> have trust in the bronze union. That said, I’d love to see some closeups as 
>> well, if it’s not too heart wrenching to post…
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Gosh, what a bummer.  So sorry that happened, and hope insurance will 
>>> make you whole.  This does seem to illustrate the down-side to fillet/tig 
>>> construction and curved tubes.  I imagine that it will be difficult to 
>>> repair.   Unless it's just too painful, I'd love to see some close-up shots 
>>> of the fillet joints on the damaged tubes, to see how they faired and to 
>>> understand their limitations/strengths better.  Trying to make lemonade, I 
>>> guess. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-6 benjami...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This size L Susie frame fell off a rack on the highway. Top and down 
 tube are obviously broken but rear triangle and head tube seem fine. Free 
 if you pay for shipping.

 [image: BEA2F3C4-2C2F-43FE-A7BB-06741817CE6A.jpeg]
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[Roberta]

I meant 1 1/4” hitch not 1 1/2”,  which I don’t think exists. 

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 8:45:24 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I had recommended to Pam via email the Saris Freedom 2 rack, the EX 
> version, which tilts, if she can find one. Otherwise, she could buy the 
> tilting add on and put it together herself, if that’s important. I can open 
> the trunk of my Civic without tilting the rack. 
>
> Th Rocktmounts Highnoon FC that Paul recommended looks nice, too. Pam—I 
> don’t think this was available when I was in the market, but it looks good. 
>
> I did not research but I’d expect that there are only 1 1/2” hitch mounts 
> available for a Prius. 
>
> The with the saris freedom you can U lock (not just cable lock) your bike 
> to the rack for quick stop. I realize nothing is theft proof but for me, 
> this added security is important. It may not be for others.  
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>
>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>> smart design IMO. 
>>
>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
>> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>
>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>
>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
>> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
>> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
>> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>
>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Snow? In California??

[Piaw Na]

I should have ridden my Roadini today, but I hadn't planned on the road 
closure on highway 9 changing my plans --- I ended up riding over the top 
of Black Mountain instead. The Roadini with 38mm tires would have made 
short work of the traverse from Montebello Raod to Page Mill road, but 
instead I had to do a bit of walking on my Ti frame:
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/jByQDSJXSCW5J2ZvnBqXaA.YOnzpq3Ogen0W4B7u1g_hr

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 4:46:42 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes indeed! So I did what must be done. I rode my Riv. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> [image: Screenshot_20230224_164337.jpg][image: 
> Screenshot_20230224_164346.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[Roberta]

I had recommended to Pam via email the Saris Freedom 2 rack, the EX 
version, which tilts, if she can find one. Otherwise, she could buy the 
tilting add on and put it together herself, if that’s important. I can open 
the trunk of my Civic without tilting the rack. 

Th Rocktmounts Highnoon FC that Paul recommended looks nice, too. Pam—I 
don’t think this was available when I was in the market, but it looks good. 

I did not research but I’d expect that there are only 1 1/2” hitch mounts 
available for a Prius. 

The with the saris freedom you can U lock (not just cable lock) your bike 
to the rack for quick stop. I realize nothing is theft proof but for me, 
this added security is important. It may not be for others.  

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 9:44:35 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
> https://rockymounts.com/
>
> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab the 
> front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty smart 
> design IMO. 
>
> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>
> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>
> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>
> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom frame bag for Gus

[Brian Turner]

Hi Doug! Yes, it’s waxed canvas with a PE stiffener going all the way around the bag. I think the lining of the interior might be X-pac. Not waterproof by any means, but good enough for me. I won’t be putting anything in this bag that will get ruined if moisture gets in.- BrianOn Feb 25, 2023, at 3:47 PM, dougP  wrote:Well done. When Rivendell started their long wheelbase designs, I saw that space as perfect for a bag. Good to see it exists. Is there any coating on the bag facing the rear tire so keep contents dry? Sort of a faux fender?dougPOn Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:05:10 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I’m happy to share stuff like this. I’m glad some folks caught the Riv-centric detail in the attachment loop made from a John’s Irish strap. That was a nice little surprise that Andy (the bag maker) threw in!- Brian On Feb 23, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:Hi Brian,That is why Laing's frame pump is inverted. I understand now.I'm currently making custom frame pump peg for my Clem Smith Jr. "L" between the upper seat stays on the seat tube. I will post it later when I am finished and mounted it on my bike.Thank-you,On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:52:12 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Kim- the Gus pump peg is on the non-drive side chain stay, near the BB cluster.On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:Upon a closer look on the upper part of the seat tube between the seat stays, I do not see a frame pump peg on Brian's Gus.Kim. On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:40:11 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:This custom made bag of Brian's would not also interfere with the pump pegs on the backside of the seat tube ( I did not know that the Gus Boots Willsen had a pump peg behind the seat tube. ), but also having a frame pump mounted there. Furthermore, I think the bag might interfere with having a rear fender between the chain stays and kickstand plate ?Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Laing, in this case with this design it most likely would interfere. I specifically wanted this bag to carry my pump and all my tire tools so it serves its purpose in that respect. I use a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HV, and it’s small enough to fit in a variety of my bike bags. I just like the idea of having all that stuff in one designated space.- BOn Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, lconley  wrote:Does the bag interfere with mounting a pump on the pump peg?LaingOn Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Photos here:https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much usable space there to not take advantage of it.I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out the photos!I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for. I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube, puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little room to spare.If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!-Brian



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[RBW] Re: The Riv goes "Spinal Tap"

[Drew Saunders]

Thanks, Luke and Ryan, for the kind comments.

There was enough of a break in the rain to take it out for a ride today. 
I’m visiting my mom in Florida next week, so I won’t get in another ride 
for a while.

The 11 speed friction shifting with Silver bar-ends and my old Ultegra 
9-speed RD worked great! I didn’t miss a single downshift, only shifted two 
cogs where I wanted to shift one once, and only had a little grumbling on 
one upshift, which was easily corrected. With a bit more practice, it’ll be 
smoother than my 9 speed indexed shifting. It’s already *Much* quieter!

Oddly, even though I have a more standard high-normal RD (Rapid Rise is 
also called “low normal,” with the difference being which end of the range 
the derailleur goes to with no cable tension), I found it easier to 
downshift than up. I suppose this is the result of 40 years of refinements 
to the chains and cassettes for indexing making them so easy to friction 
shift.

Being old, I learned on a 2x5 “10 speed” with downtube Shimano 600 friction 
shifting. My 1989 college graduation present was a Bianchi Volpe with 
Suntour 3x7 indexed, and Suntour didn’t index very well, so I switched it 
to friction after a year or so. My next experience with friction was when 
the 8 speed bar-end shifters on my Ibis Mojo MTB got sloppy after about 12 
years, so the derailleur didn’t consistently get to the right spot, so I 
moved the adjuster to friction and used them that way for a season, then 
converted that bike to 3x9 indexed. Shimano clearly learned a lesson, as my 
9 speed bar-cons are much stiffer than the 8, but have lasted 15+ years 
without any change in the quality of their shifting. Still, that stiffness 
can be a bother.

As expected for a flat ride, I never moved the front derailleur, and 
somehow got it in just the right spot so I didn’t have to trim it to avoid 
chain rub as I ran the whole cassette. I didn’t really need the 42-28, I 
just wanted to test the whole range a couple of times. I’m not sure if I 
just had great luck, or if I’ll be able to consistently find this sweet 
spot, we’ll see after I try a hillier ride and use the small ring. I kept 
reaching for the left shifter out of habit, but I’ll be happy to do most of 
my rides in “one-by” mode.

The hub on the Ibis is 8/9/10 only, but I may convert it to 2x10 next rainy 
season.

Drew

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 4:38:08 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> I remember you writing about that bike! Nice! I'm glad you still have it.I 
> think it was the reason I ordered a 2nd Riv , a Riv road in 2000...and I 
> almost went for red but switched to Harvest Gold
>
> Off-topic...I can relate about working in IT and being on-call. Before I 
> retired in 2018 from Canada Life as a software developer, I was on call 
> either from 6am to 6pm or 24X7 for roughly one week per month and the 24X7 
> shifts meant you were pretty much  tethered to the homestead...and of 
> course, once the phone rings or pager goes off, you have to get on it. And 
> just try going back to sleep after fixing a problem at 3am. Don't miss it, 
> that's for sure
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 1:28:47 AM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>>
>> Drew,
>>
>> This bike is utterly perfect! Great choice in gearing, too. 
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 3:03:56 PM UTC-8 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> "This goes to eleven!"
>>> After having to get a new rear wheel for my 1999 Red Rivendell, which 
>>> came with a spacer to use less than 11 speeds (I had a 9-speed cassette), I 
>>> got to thinking, then I got to budgeting, then I got to buying and today, 
>>> since I'm on call for work (I work in IT, and one week in 10 I have to be 
>>> on call should some important network device have issues off hours, so I 
>>> don't go on long bike rides on my on-call weekend), I decided to change my 
>>> Riv from 3x9 to 2x11. It now "goes to eleven!" just like Nigel Tufnel's 
>>> amps!
>>>
>>> I ordered the silver bar-end shifters and pods and hoped that everyone 
>>> was correct in that these would shift 11 speeds with a traditional 9-speed 
>>> rear derailleur. I have an Ultegra "long cage" from about 15 years ago (?) 
>>> that has served me well, and still works fine. Spoiler alert: works fine!
>>>
>>> I had originally wanted to get the Rene Herse cranks, but they were 
>>> perpetually out of stock, then Soma had their big holiday sale, so I got 
>>> the New Albion 26-42-chainguard cranks and IRD BB for about 1/3 of the 
>>> price of the Rene Herse.
>>>
>>> I found a Campagnolo Croce D'Aune front derailleur on Ebay from the UK 
>>> which the previous owner had scrubbed so well it looked new. This FD is 
>>> probably from 1990 or so.
>>>
>>> I added a SRAM chain and 11-28 cassette, and I also picked up new 
>>> Ritchey pedals (my previous ones were quite worn out) and Newbaum's padded 
>>> cotton bar tape.
>>>
>>> I don't have a garage, so have to drag my stand out of storage and use 
>>> the micro back "yard" behind my apartment 

[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[John Bokman]

Paul, thanks for digging deeper. It does indeed look like it would work for 
me. I'd probably spring for the double bike rack; at $580, it ain't cheap, 
but it seems comparable, or less expensive, that many options out there. As 
to the Yakima Raptor: I have had one for 25- or -so years, and it always 
just works. I give it no special treatment, no pampering, and it just 
works. Unfortunately,  it doesn't have a clone in a hitch-mounted rack. 
I've always been impressed with my various old-school Yakima racks, going 
on 35 years old now. So I want to give them the business, but they don't 
seem to make what I want: a simple-to-use, platform hitch rack that doesn't 
impinge on my fenders. In fact, I'm surprised that there are so few options 
for fendered bikes across brands. I guess not everyone lives in Portland, 
Oregon, like me. Who knew?

John

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 12:00:45 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Page 4 of the PDF instructions show the preferred arm location. It's like 
> basically as long as you can get it up to about 7 o'clock, you should be 
> good:
> https://rockymounts.com/content/51339_REV_5_sml.pdf
>
> I didn't see any reviews or video instructions. must be niche product :)
>
> I may spring for one of these next time I need another rack, which may be 
> never, but it'd really encourage me to put fenders back on some of my bikes.
>
> Paul
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
>> something for a review that shows it actually working.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can 
>>> be rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones 
>>> shone on the Ebike.
>>>
>>> John
>>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
 I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
 already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
 Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
 site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
 https://rockymounts.com/

 I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
 https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
 I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
 the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
 smart design IMO. 

 And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a 
 couple days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
 [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]

 FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
 rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
 https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
 gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
 price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.

 I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their 
 bikes, but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old 
 Yakima Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is 
 a reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
 https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/

 So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)

 Paul in AR

 On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my 
> fendered Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for 
> fenders.  
> And the hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  
> This isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.



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[RBW] FS: a bunch of bags

[Julian Westerhout]

For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it is 
again time for a purge. 

All prices do not include shipping. 

Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT


Swift Motherloaf basket Bag — brand new with tags — Black — description 
here https://builtbyswift.com/shop/motherloaf-basket-bag/$130


Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — see 
photos.  $125

Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85

Guu Watanabe frame bag — tan — this is a slim bag designed to fit inside a 
frame or on the seat post of a folding bike — light use, impeccable 
workmanship   $90 

Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with mount 
and instructions. $40

Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70

Carradice saddlebag — black, not sure of model (barley?) — fair amount of 
use — lots of life left — the straps to attach to saddle and seat post seem 
to have gone walkabout, so not included unless you get lucky and I find 
them!   :) $25


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom frame bag for Gus

[dougP]

Well done. When Rivendell started their long wheelbase designs, I saw that 
space as perfect for a bag. Good to see it exists. Is there any coating on 
the bag facing the rear tire so keep contents dry? Sort of a faux fender?

dougP

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 2:05:10 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I’m happy to share stuff like this. 
> I’m glad some folks caught the Riv-centric detail in the attachment loop 
> made from a John’s Irish strap. That was a nice little surprise that Andy 
> (the bag maker) threw in!
>
> - Brian 
>
> On Feb 23, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
>
> That is why Laing's frame pump is inverted. I understand now.
>
> I'm currently making custom frame pump peg for my Clem Smith Jr. "L" 
> between the upper seat stays on the seat tube. I will post it later when I 
> am finished and mounted it on my bike.
>
> Thank-you,
>
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:52:12 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Kim- the Gus pump peg is on the non-drive side chain stay, near the BB 
>> cluster.
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Upon a closer look on the upper part of the seat tube between the seat 
>> stays, I do not see a frame pump peg on Brian's Gus.
>>
>> Kim. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:40:11 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>
>>> This custom made bag of Brian's would not also interfere with the pump 
>>> pegs on the backside of the seat tube ( I did not know that the Gus Boots 
>>> Willsen had a pump peg behind the seat tube. ), but also having a frame 
>>> pump mounted there. Furthermore, I think the bag might interfere with 
>>> having a rear fender between the chain stays and kickstand plate ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Laing, in this case with this design it most likely would interfere. I 
 specifically wanted this bag to carry my pump and all my tire tools so it 
 serves its purpose in that respect. I use a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HV, 
 and it’s small enough to fit in a variety of my bike bags. I just like the 
 idea of having all that stuff in one designated space.

 - B

 On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, lconley  wrote:

 Does the bag interfere with mounting a pump on the pump peg?

 


 


 Laing



 On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>
> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on 
> having a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the 
> frame. I guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just 
> too much usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>
> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs 
> in the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and 
> he enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check 
> out the photos!
>
> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping 
> for. I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, 
> spare 
> tube, puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a 
> little room to spare.
>
> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>
> -Brian
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[RBW] Re: Snow? In California??

[Brian Forsee]

Joe,

Lets get some photos of that shifter setup! Sorry if you've shared it here 
before but its a new one for me.

Brian

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 2:03:02 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> A fatbike would have been useful! 
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 8:35:10 AM UTC-8 Will Boericke wrote:
>
>> If only you had gotten that fatbike!  :)
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 7:46:42 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Yes indeed! So I did what must be done. I rode my Riv. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_20230224_164337.jpg][image: 
>>> Screenshot_20230224_164346.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Snow? In California??

[Joe Bernard]

A fatbike would have been useful! 

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 8:35:10 AM UTC-8 Will Boericke wrote:

> If only you had gotten that fatbike!  :)
>
> Will
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 7:46:42 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yes indeed! So I did what must be done. I rode my Riv. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> [image: Screenshot_20230224_164337.jpg][image: 
>> Screenshot_20230224_164346.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[Paul Clifton]

Page 4 of the PDF instructions show the preferred arm location. It's like 
basically as long as you can get it up to about 7 o'clock, you should be 
good:
https://rockymounts.com/content/51339_REV_5_sml.pdf

I didn't see any reviews or video instructions. must be niche product :)

I may spring for one of these next time I need another rack, which may be 
never, but it'd really encourage me to put fenders back on some of my bikes.

Paul

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
> something for a review that shows it actually working.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
>> rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
>> on the Ebike.
>>
>> John
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>>
>>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>>> smart design IMO. 
>>>
>>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a 
>>> couple days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>>
>>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>>
>>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their 
>>> bikes, but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old 
>>> Yakima Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is 
>>> a reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>>
>>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
 Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
 hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
 isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[Paul Clifton]

yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
something for a review that shows it actually working.

Paul



On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
> rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
> on the Ebike.
>
> John
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>
>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>> smart design IMO. 
>>
>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
>> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>
>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>
>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
>> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
>> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
>> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>
>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Cabo Loop, BSC

[John Rinker]

Hey Craig, 

I used an MSR pump for many years then switched to their gravity filter 
which makes so much sense to me. On the GDMBR a few years back, my buddy 
and I had a Steri-pen and the MSR gravity filter- an excellent combination. 
Steri-pen for quick stops and clear water, and the MSR for end-of-day, big 
water reloads. Also, the MSR is better for less-than-clear water. 

Mostly now, I like the Steri-pen as it's light and convenient. I can 
recharge it from my dynamo, and I'd estimate a single charge lasts up to 
50L of water, probably more. I've used it in all kinds of water and, so 
far, it's proven itself handily. Of course, there's always the possibility 
of the tech going on the fritz, but everything can fail. Then, we get a 
chance to see how resourceful we really are!

Cheers, John

ps. Thinking of riding the Sky Islands in your area in late April. Good 
time of year?


On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 9:33:14 PM UTC-8 Craig Montgomery wrote:

> Very good John. Thanks for answering. Steri-pen. That's a new one to me. 
> The technology looks interesting though I'm a natural born skeptic. I've 
> been pumping thru a First Need purifier for over 2 decades now. A job of 
> work but it does purify...even radioactivity. 
>
> Craig 
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 11:07:44 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Craig, Yes, these are critical questions indeed. First, no, we were 
>> not counting on any water other than what we were confident about from 
>> previous reports. Some arroyos that had water were expected, and others 
>> were a surprise and a gift. 
>>
>> We could carry about 8 litres between us and traveled with two Steri-pen 
>> UV filters (very handy). Whenever we came across water we drank a couple of 
>> litres and refilled bottles- our cells were plump and our bellies sloshed! 
>>
>> On the Eastern Cape, after rejoining the sea at Bahia de Los Sueños wild 
>> water sources are scarce to non-existent until an arroyo in the mountains 
>> above Cabo Frailes, and we only learned of this from an intrepid snowbird 
>> we met at the beach in Frailes. We purchased water in towns and many 
>> travelers in vans and campers we met were generous with their supplies 
>> (though we never assumed). 
>>
>> While we were careful with our water, we never felt like we were in any 
>> danger of not having or being able to get it. We rode the desert with a 
>> very healthy respect for both its beauty and its potential danger. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 9:33:36 AM UTC-8 Craig Montgomery wrote:
>>
>>> As an old desert rat I have to ask the most important questions of such 
>>> a tour: How much water did you carry on the bikes? What was the farthest 
>>> distance between water supplies? Were you expecting the drainages to have 
>>> running water (a dangerous thing to do) and did you carry a filter? 
>>>
>>> Craig "Swollen Tongue" in Tucson
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 5:42:44 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 A friend and I recently hung up our skis here in BC for a few weeks and 
 headed south to Baja Sur to ride the Cape (Cabo) Loop that completes the 
 popular Baja Divide route. The loop is roughly 450km and takes in the 
 Pacific Ocean, the* Sierra La Lagunas*, and beautiful beaches along 
 the Sea of Cortez. The landscape in both the mountains and along the 
 coasts 
 is a rich and diverse desert ecosystem. In addition to a variety of birds, 
 we saw tons (literally) of humpback whales and mobula rays along the 
 eastern coastline. The route is somewhat challenging with some stiff 
 climbing, tire-sucking sand, and a few technical rock-dancing sections. 
 Mostly, it’s a stunner ride that offers warm weather mid-Winter and wild 
 camping in beautiful spots both in the mountains and on relatively empty 
 beaches. 

 [image: IMG_0243.jpeg]

 Shortly after landing in San Jose del Cabo, we put our bikes together 
 and headed toward the Baja brewery in the Old Town to carbo load with 
 Peyote IPAs and* tacos de pescado* for our departure the following 
 morning. We chose to complete the loop in a clockwise manner as, after the 
 busy-ness of San Jose, we were itching for the solitude of the mountains. 
 Climbing into the *Sierra La Lagunas*, we were pleasantly surprised by 
 the prevalence of running water in many of the arroyos (Feb 2023). At the 
 height of land, we camped in a clearing under a mature Mexican white oak 
 surrounded by organ pipe cactus and Torchwood trees. 

 [image: IMG_0250.jpeg]

 Our ride down the other side the next morning was a fast descent 
 through sandy curves as we headed towards *Todos Santos* and the 
 Pacific Coast. Again, there was plenty of water flowing through this 
 verdant, desert landscape. *Todos Santos* is a historical Mexican town 
 fast on its way to becoming a gentrified destination for 

[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

[John Bokman]

Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
on the Ebike.

John
On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
> https://rockymounts.com/
>
> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab the 
> front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty smart 
> design IMO. 
>
> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>
> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>
> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>
> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Snow? In California??

[Will Boericke]

If only you had gotten that fatbike!  :)

Will

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 7:46:42 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes indeed! So I did what must be done. I rode my Riv. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> [image: Screenshot_20230224_164337.jpg][image: 
> Screenshot_20230224_164346.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur Suggestions

[Bill Schairer]

I agree with Garth and Andy.  I've got an old Campy shifting a 50/45/26, a 
Suntour AR or Vx (I can't remember which) shifting 42/34/19 on my Atlantis, 
and whichever isn't on the Atlantis is on my Trek shifting 45/42/24.  I've 
also used Cyclones.  It often takes a bunch of fiddling and trial and error 
- I've had derailleurs work well on one bike but not another so, as Garth 
said, having a choice of several on hand and doing one's own work is the 
best way to go.  The old derailleurs are elegant, light, plentiful, cheap, 
and they just work.  I picked one of the Suntours up for free from a bike 
shop parts bin, all it needed was a cable clamping screw.

Bill S
San Diego

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 2:47:13 AM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> Shaped inner plates hate wide chainring choices, they're made for 
> corporate combinations to assure legal counsel of perfect shifting with 
> their derailleurs, shifters cassette combos and other spec. What I found 
> when building up my wide double (46/30) rando with RH cranks was that with 
> all the new FDs to try, my mechanic found the SunTour Superbe from my bag 
> of nearly NOS FD options fit and worked the best. Plus it doesn't try to 
> hide that it is made of metal, it is bright silver.
>
> A couple shots in album form:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/eSqnCSt3WxrtfmkCA
>
> Tail of the cage not hitting the right chain stay, limiting how close to 
> the 46t ring it could be, chain line when on on the 30t not below the 
> intended interface of an origami inner plate sculpted for a very narrow 
> range of OEM chainring size combinations and a width of parallel cage 
> plates that permits operation across several cogs before trimming is 
> necessary. I'm quite happy with it.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 12:45:08 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've been having a heckuva time getting my front derailleur to go from 
>> little to big without hopping over. Eventually, if I talked sweetly to it 
>> and said Hail Mary three times, it would usually settle. Even took it to an 
>> experience mechanic. He also lowered it, then slowly kept raising it up, 
>> and also kept working the limit screw. A fraction of a turn was difference 
>> between not reaching the big ring, or going over!
>>
>> It's a White Industries VBC with 46-28. FD is IRD compact triple Aplina. 
>> Friction Microshift thumbie. I think it's bottom pull. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2391 Medium.jpeg]
>>
>> Any suggestions for different FD? May need different chain rings because 
>> of that big jump, but if I do that, I may be best off buying something else 
>> and selling these.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur Suggestions

[ascpgh]

Shaped inner plates hate wide chainring choices, they're made for corporate 
combinations to assure legal counsel of perfect shifting with their 
derailleurs, shifters cassette combos and other spec. What I found when 
building up my wide double (46/30) rando with RH cranks was that with all 
the new FDs to try, my mechanic found the SunTour Superbe from my bag of 
nearly NOS FD options fit and worked the best. Plus it doesn't try to hide 
that it is made of metal, it is bright silver.

A couple shots in album form:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/eSqnCSt3WxrtfmkCA

Tail of the cage not hitting the right chain stay, limiting how close to 
the 46t ring it could be, chain line when on on the 30t not below the 
intended interface of an origami inner plate sculpted for a very narrow 
range of OEM chainring size combinations and a width of parallel cage 
plates that permits operation across several cogs before trimming is 
necessary. I'm quite happy with it.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 12:45:08 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I've been having a heckuva time getting my front derailleur to go from 
> little to big without hopping over. Eventually, if I talked sweetly to it 
> and said Hail Mary three times, it would usually settle. Even took it to an 
> experience mechanic. He also lowered it, then slowly kept raising it up, 
> and also kept working the limit screw. A fraction of a turn was difference 
> between not reaching the big ring, or going over!
>
> It's a White Industries VBC with 46-28. FD is IRD compact triple Aplina. 
> Friction Microshift thumbie. I think it's bottom pull. 
>
> [image: IMG_2391 Medium.jpeg]
>
> Any suggestions for different FD? May need different chain rings because 
> of that big jump, but if I do that, I may be best off buying something else 
> and selling these.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>

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