Re: [RBW] rack for Wald 139

[luckyturnip]

I really like my big Pelago rack which…I’d send a pic but it’s between bikes. But I’d recommend this one as well. On Apr 11, 2023, at 19:11, Keith Paugh  wrote:I have a Sim Works Obento under my 139 Half basket.It has a slightly wider footprint than the other racks I researched, and has been fantastic.Very stable & light. I’ve been really pleased.That being said, if I was going to do it again (and might do anyway), I think I’d get a Pass & Stow rack.I love that you can run your generator light cable internally, and I think the welded support struts look stronger and more nicely laid out than anything else I’ve seen.The times I’ve seen a photo of a bike and said “ooo, what rack is that?!” - it’s usually been a Pass & Stow.k.On Apr 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:Thanks NickI haven't seen tha, but looking at it, I think it may be too small ...the platform is 9.5" long so the 139 would hang 3.5" off the front .Definitely keeping weight in mind and also surface area below the basket.  I suspect something both wider and longer would be best.On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:55:20 PM UTC-4 nicklin...@gmail.com wrote:Have you considered a “Soma Lucas 3”?  Approx. $60 I believe.   Comes in black and silver. I have one and use it with a 137 and like it a lot.  Might work well with a 139.  Do keep the amount of weight you might want to carry (for safety) in mind though.  NickSent from my iPadOn Apr 11, 2023, at 5:29 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:GreetingsI'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl are using for a rack.I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending $288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is..  I may pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and doesn't have any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on the rear of the bike though.Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?thanksJS



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Re: [RBW] rack for Wald 139

[Keith Paugh]

I have a Sim Works Obento under my 139 Half basket.It has a slightly wider footprint than the other racks I researched, and has been fantastic.Very stable & light. I’ve been really pleased.That being said, if I was going to do it again (and might do anyway), I think I’d get a Pass & Stow rack.I love that you can run your generator light cable internally, and I think the welded support struts look stronger and more nicely laid out than anything else I’ve seen.The times I’ve seen a photo of a bike and said “ooo, what rack is that?!” - it’s usually been a Pass & Stow.k.On Apr 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:Thanks NickI haven't seen tha, but looking at it, I think it may be too small ...the platform is 9.5" long so the 139 would hang 3.5" off the front .Definitely keeping weight in mind and also surface area below the basket.  I suspect something both wider and longer would be best.On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:55:20 PM UTC-4 nicklin...@gmail.com wrote:Have you considered a “Soma Lucas 3”?  Approx. $60 I believe.   Comes in black and silver. I have one and use it with a 137 and like it a lot.  Might work well with a 139.  Do keep the amount of weight you might want to carry (for safety) in mind though.  NickSent from my iPadOn Apr 11, 2023, at 5:29 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:GreetingsI'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl are using for a rack.I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending $288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is..  I may pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and doesn't have any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on the rear of the bike though.Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?thanksJS



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[RBW] ISO: Swift Industries Peregrine 12L bag

[Bryan Dalik]

Looking for this in black if possible, or something comparable if anyone 
has one they're looking to off load. 

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] rack for Wald 139

[J Schwartz]

Thanks Nick
I haven't seen tha, but looking at it, I think it may be too small ...
the platform is 9.5" long so the 139 would hang 3.5" off the front .
Definitely keeping weight in mind and also surface area below the basket. 
 I suspect something both wider and longer would be best.

On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:55:20 PM UTC-4 nicklin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Have you considered a “Soma Lucas 3”?  Approx. $60 I believe.   Comes in 
> black and silver. I have one and use it with a 137 and like it a lot. 
>  Might work well with a 139.  
>
> Do keep the amount of weight you might want to carry (for safety) in mind 
> though.  
>
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 11, 2023, at 5:29 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> I'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl 
> are using for a rack.
> I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm 
> considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending 
> $288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is..  I may 
> pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of 
> the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.
> I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have 
> used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and doesn't have 
> any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong 
> enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on the rear 
> of the bike though.
> Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?
> thanks
> JS
>
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Re: [RBW] rack for Wald 139

[Nick Lindsey]

Have you considered a “Soma Lucas 3”?  Approx. $60 I believe.   Comes in black and silver. I have one and use it with a 137 and like it a lot.  Might work well with a 139.  Do keep the amount of weight you might want to carry (for safety) in mind though.  NickSent from my iPadOn Apr 11, 2023, at 5:29 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:GreetingsI'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl are using for a rack.I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending $288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is..  I may pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and doesn't have any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on the rear of the bike though.Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?thanksJS



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[RBW] rack for Wald 139

[J Schwartz]

Greetings
I'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl 
are using for a rack.
I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm 
considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending 
$288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is..  I may 
pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of 
the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.
I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have 
used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and doesn't have 
any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong 
enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on the rear 
of the bike though.
Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?
thanks
JS

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[RBW] Re: WTB Large Rosco Baby in the next 12 months

[maxcr]

Thanks Bones, that's an awesome photo, love it! I have no idea how you 
manage to mount the bike, I'm very flexible but I don't know how I'd do it.
 
We hope to have another one down the line (first one has to get here 
first!) but at that point maybe we could transition the older one to a 
trailer? I agree with Michael, step-thru capability would make for a much 
easier/safer mounting routine for me. 

Max

On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 6:55:45 AM UTC-6 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

>
> i will say any bike with a top tube as opposed to a swooping tube is not 
> something i’d recommend for a child carrier (if back seat is the eventual 
> considerat) the ability to mount goes down severely when there’s a live 
> being back there. unless you’re doing yoga and stretching regularly i’m 
> just about sick of using my yepp in the back. i know you’re asking about 
> the front but just piggy backing off the above statement 
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:06:56 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Congratulations! How many humans do you ultimately see yourself toting 
>> around? If only one, the Rosco Baby is great (if you can find one). I asked 
>> myself the same question, and when I decided I was going to add >1 humans, 
>> I bought an Appaloosa. I'm quite glad I did. Keep in mind that the reach is 
>> not the only factor. In my experience, simply raising the child seat on the 
>> stem is more effective at avoiding knee strike. Consider a low or negative 
>> rise handlebar and the extra exposed stem length is plenty to keep your 
>> knees free of the seat. This frame begs to be loaded, front and/or rear. So 
>> from this point of view, unless you'd really like step-thru functionality, 
>> it doesn't really matter which bike you choose as long as it is somewhat 
>> stout and it fits you. Once my kids outgrew the weight limits on the seats 
>> and our third roommate arrived I said "screw it I'm getting a cargo bike."
>>
>> [image: bike.JPG]
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:17:39 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, I spoke to Will about the Rosco Baby and he told me the new Clem's 
>>> are the closest thing to them. Big difference being that tubes in the Rosco 
>>> Baby are burlier. 
>>>
>>> Joe in Los Angeles
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Laing, Slin and Paul!

 In 2016 Riv listed the Clem L as follows:
 size 59 has an ETT of 64
 size 65 has an ETT of 67 
 both with STA and HTA of 71.5

 Paul, I wonder if yours was a newer version with an even longer 70cm 
 ETT!

 I found this diagram for a 52 Rosco Baby, which shows a whopping 72.5 
 ETT! The main difference are the 70.5 HTA and the STA at 68 - I believe 
 the 
 latter is a big part of the expanded top tube. i wonder what's the ETT on 
 the 58 Baby?

 The 56 Susie shows an ETT of 68.5 on the website, a bit longer than the 
 diagram I found below but still well below than the Rosco baby. Anyone has 
 experience with a front load on a Susie? Yeah, I'm looking for excuses to 
 buy Ryan's bike ;) My wife has a small Susie and it's a great bike.

 Max
 [image: IMG_0033.JPG]
 [image: 56cm susie.png]
 On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:10:12 PM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:

> I had a 64cm 2021 lime-olive Clem L and it had a 70cm effective top 
> tube. 
>
> On Monday, 10 April 2023 at 14:15:14 UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>
>> Laing is right that the latest Clem L has a much longer top tube than 
>> the Clementine, but it's not 4.5 inches longer.
>>
>> Max - Bosco bars are a great for getting more space for you and the 
>> baby. Sizing up on a Clem for me has worked great to get space for my 
>> knees 
>> with the baby up front too.
>>
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 12:53:24 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Clementine and a Rosco Baby. BIG, BIG difference. The Rosco 
>>> Baby Effective Top Tube is about 4-1/2 inches longer that the 
>>> Clementine. 
>>> 725mm for the Rosco Baby 52cm, 610mm for the Clementine 52cm. The 
>>> current 
>>> Clem may be slightly different than the original Clementine, but not 
>>> 4-1/2 
>>> inches.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone,

 We've got a little one on the way and I've started thinking about a 
 bike for a Thule Yepp mini front seat without knee interference to 
 ride 
 next summer!

 I have pretty long legs for my 5'11" height - pbh of 90.5 so I 
 always look for bikes with short-ish top tubes or use very short stems 
 which in mind provide the most comfortable fit for me. I don't think 
 any of 
 my current bikes is ideal, the proto Gallop has long chainstays and a 
 swoopy top tube 

[RBW] Re: That 7-speed 13-42 cassette

[greenteadrinkers]

Hi, Slin - did you need to use a derailleur extender with the 13-42 
cassette? If not curious how well the front 24 and rear 42 work together. 
Maybe this has more to do with what a particular RD can handle/wrap.

Thanks,
Scott

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:49:03 PM UTC-4 Slin wrote:

> JS -
>
> For a few months now, I've been using the 13-42 on my Clem with the stock 
> 38/24 chain rings. I've rarely switched to the 24, so if I were setting it 
> up again, I'd be comfortable using it as a 1x.
>
> 90% of my use is hauling kids over small hills in SF, and a bit of trail 
> riding.
>
> I'd say it could be great for your use case too!
>
> S
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Greetings 
>> Is anyone using that "Jim" cassette and, if so, are you pairing it with a 
>> double or going 1x?
>> How's is working for you?
>> Thinking of using it 1x for a townie / grocery getter Chev.
>> thanks
>> JS
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Rambouillet 54 or Bleriot 55

[Jeffrey Arita]

Hi Mike,

PM Sent,

Best regards,

Jeff Arita
Claremont, CA

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 4:03:32 PM UTC-7 mike naranjo wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I realize this may be a long shot, but please let me know if you have any 
> leads on a Rambouillet in a size 54 or a Bleriot in a size 55.  Thank you!
>
> Best,
>
> Mike
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[Patrick Moore]

I kept my 2003 Curt road custom hanging on the wall for several years while
I commuted on beaters; nice beaters but not Rivendells. Commuting was the
bulk of my riding. The absurdity of this led me to have Dave Porter modify
the Curt for a fixed drivetrain and use as a daily commuter. The enjoyment
meter immediately read a consistent 125% higher for the rest of the life of
the Curt. (Curt still has a life but with some other owner.)

As far as commuting on your favorite bike and then buying another favorite
bike, I agree with that too. Have at least 3 favorite bikes, as I described
earlier: gofast, gofast built for loads and errands, and dirt surface bike,
all favorites of their kind. Augment as you please. But if I had to choose
just-one, it would be the 1999 Joe Starck gofast custom (with 3 wheelsets
and removable Sackville Medium).

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:12 AM DavidP  wrote:

> In the March blahg, Grant revisits the idea of preservation vs use and
> writes:
>
> "For daily tasks like shopping, commuting, errands, and all-purpose
> exercise, ride your favorite bicycle. A the risk of sounding self-serving,
> I'd say--get more than one special bike. You probably do that, or want to
> do that anyway."
>

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Re: [RBW] Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[Ted Durant]

> On Apr 11, 2023, at 1:29 PM, JohnS  wrote:
> 
> Ted, nice picture of your bike and the lighthouse. Which one is that? 

Thanks John! That’s Nauset light, between Eastham and Welfleet. 

Ted Durant

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Re: [RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[John Rinker]

DavidP, Thanks for sharing that bit from Grant. Makes sense to me and seems 
a little more reasonable than 'seven is good'.

Piaw, A broken frame seems a great reason to own a second bike, and this is 
exactly what prompted me to add the Atlantis to my already special Hunq. My 
Hunq broke once (separated seat stay) and it took a while to get fixed. 
Borrowing my daughter's bike worked out OK, but still... I don't expect 
either bike to ever break again, but just in case I'll always have a 
special bike to ride. 
In regards to choosing a bike to ride, I have a hard enough time choosing 
which bike to ride between the two. Personally, I can't imagine the time 
I'd waste standing in front of a stable of seven and trying to choose. I'd 
rather be riding.

Cheers, John

On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 11:26:10 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I lived for many years with one road bike, and I think it was great. 
> Having fewer decisions as to which bike to ride was great, and I perversely 
> enjoy wearing out tires and chains at a good clip --- makes me feel like 
> I'm a real cyclist. I did break the frame twice, and each time it kinda 
> sucked having to borrow bikes or ride the mountain bike everywhere. The 
> thing the broke me was breaking a frame during the height of the bike 
> shortage during the pandemic. Then I realized if I broke my frame a third 
> time, I'd probably go shopping for another custom builder and I'd want 
> something to tide me over until then. That led to me getting a Roadini, 
> which now serves as my gravel bike. I still like wearing parts faster so I 
> end up riding my dedicated road touring frame much more, but now I pull out 
> the roadini for those in-between dirt + mtb rides and it's nice having that 
> option.
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 AM DavidP  wrote:
>
>> In the March blahg, Grant revisits the idea of preservation vs use and 
>> writes:
>>
>> "For daily tasks like shopping, commuting, errands, and all-purpose 
>> exercise, ride your favorite bicycle. A the risk of sounding self-serving, 
>> I'd say--get more than one special bike. You probably do that, or want to 
>> do that anyway."
>>
>> I think this thread is a testament to the fact that many of us have more 
>> than one special Bicycle.
>>
>> -Dave
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:28:06 PM UTC-4 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> Guy -
>>>
>>> Those are some great bikes, I wish I could help slim down the herd, but 
>>> my frame size is smaller. Is there a story for how you ended up with so 
>>> many 2022 bikes?
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have way too much overlap in my quiver:

 2015 Soma San Marcos (Tiburon Blue) - 57cm
 2018 Atlantis  (650B) - 56cm
 2022 Crust Canti Romanceur (Pistachio) - 57cm
 2022 Sam Hillborne (HiHo Silver) - 57cm
 2004ish Rambouillet (Joe Bell Custom Brown) - 60cm
 2022 Wolbis/Susie (Dark Gold) - 56cm
 2021 Gus Boots (Mermaid) - 59cm
 2022 Roadini (RBW Orange) - 57cm
 2020 Platypus (Mermaid) - 60cm
 2022 Rosco Bubbe - (Purple) - 60cm

 I would really like to slim down the herd!  You interested in helping?

 Guy

 On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:03:48 PM UTC-6 Steven Seelig wrote:

> Bikes in order of use:
>
>1. Brand new Platypus for City riding
>2. Spectrum titanium road bike (frame fabricated by Seven) 
>for clipped in rides and longer road tours
>3. Rambouillet for more spirited city rides.
>4. Sam outfitted as a gravel bike for country rides
>5. Xtracycle cargo bike with a large aftermarket Bafang 1,000 watt 
>motor for shopping.
>6. Brompton for train and plane travel and occasional last mile 
>rides if driving to a big car traffic event
>7. 1986 Look Bernard Hinault Reynolds 753 steel bike.  Same frame 
>as the ones he a Lemond rode in the tour when the badger would not let 
> Greg 
>usurp his team leadership and claim the Yellow Jersey.  
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:30:19 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:
>
> Bikes in order of use
>
>1. Joe Appa daily driver
>2. Raleigh sprite vintage fixed for variety in commute
>3. 90's GT avalanche for occasional MTB'ing
>4. Dahon boardwalk guest bike I will occasionally use
>5. Vintage Schwinn tandem for occasional fun ride. Kickback 2 speed
>
> Apparently I have too (two) few bikes!
>
> Edwin
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:45:16 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs 
> with justification. I think it was 7.
>  Any idea which reader it was in?
> Thanks!
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
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Re: [RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[藍俊彪]

I lived for many years with one road bike, and I think it was great. Having
fewer decisions as to which bike to ride was great, and I perversely enjoy
wearing out tires and chains at a good clip --- makes me feel like I'm a
real cyclist. I did break the frame twice, and each time it kinda sucked
having to borrow bikes or ride the mountain bike everywhere. The thing the
broke me was breaking a frame during the height of the bike shortage during
the pandemic. Then I realized if I broke my frame a third time, I'd
probably go shopping for another custom builder and I'd want something to
tide me over until then. That led to me getting a Roadini, which now serves
as my gravel bike. I still like wearing parts faster so I end up riding my
dedicated road touring frame much more, but now I pull out the roadini for
those in-between dirt + mtb rides and it's nice having that option.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 AM DavidP  wrote:

> In the March blahg, Grant revisits the idea of preservation vs use and
> writes:
>
> "For daily tasks like shopping, commuting, errands, and all-purpose
> exercise, ride your favorite bicycle. A the risk of sounding self-serving,
> I'd say--get more than one special bike. You probably do that, or want to
> do that anyway."
>
> I think this thread is a testament to the fact that many of us have more
> than one special Bicycle.
>
> -Dave
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:28:06 PM UTC-4 Slin wrote:
>
>> Guy -
>>
>> Those are some great bikes, I wish I could help slim down the herd, but
>> my frame size is smaller. Is there a story for how you ended up with so
>> many 2022 bikes?
>>
>> S
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have way too much overlap in my quiver:
>>>
>>> 2015 Soma San Marcos (Tiburon Blue) - 57cm
>>> 2018 Atlantis  (650B) - 56cm
>>> 2022 Crust Canti Romanceur (Pistachio) - 57cm
>>> 2022 Sam Hillborne (HiHo Silver) - 57cm
>>> 2004ish Rambouillet (Joe Bell Custom Brown) - 60cm
>>> 2022 Wolbis/Susie (Dark Gold) - 56cm
>>> 2021 Gus Boots (Mermaid) - 59cm
>>> 2022 Roadini (RBW Orange) - 57cm
>>> 2020 Platypus (Mermaid) - 60cm
>>> 2022 Rosco Bubbe - (Purple) - 60cm
>>>
>>> I would really like to slim down the herd!  You interested in helping?
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:03:48 PM UTC-6 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>>
 Bikes in order of use:

1. Brand new Platypus for City riding
2. Spectrum titanium road bike (frame fabricated by Seven)
for clipped in rides and longer road tours
3. Rambouillet for more spirited city rides.
4. Sam outfitted as a gravel bike for country rides
5. Xtracycle cargo bike with a large aftermarket Bafang 1,000 watt
motor for shopping.
6. Brompton for train and plane travel and occasional last mile
rides if driving to a big car traffic event
7. 1986 Look Bernard Hinault Reynolds 753 steel bike.  Same frame
as the ones he a Lemond rode in the tour when the badger would not let 
 Greg
usurp his team leadership and claim the Yellow Jersey.


 On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:30:19 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:

 Bikes in order of use

1. Joe Appa daily driver
2. Raleigh sprite vintage fixed for variety in commute
3. 90's GT avalanche for occasional MTB'ing
4. Dahon boardwalk guest bike I will occasionally use
5. Vintage Schwinn tandem for occasional fun ride. Kickback 2 speed

 Apparently I have too (two) few bikes!

 Edwin



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 Hi all,
 I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs
 with justification. I think it was 7.
  Any idea which reader it was in?
 Thanks!
 Tom Palmer
 Twin Lake, MI

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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[JohnS]

Ted, nice picture of your bike and the lighthouse. Which one is that? I'll 
be on the upper Cape in the beginning of July. Always enjoy the riding 
there.

JohnS

On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 11:30:14 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> I realize now that I left the word "winter" in the subject line when I 
> created this thread. Maybe a Freudian slip given our early Spring weather! 
>
> Anyway, I'm on Cape Cod for a week, riding my trusty and rusty old Fuji 
> America. It's just starting to look and feel like spring here.
> [image: IMG_1173.jpeg]
>
> Ted Durant
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[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[DavidP]

In the March blahg, Grant revisits the idea of preservation vs use and 
writes:

"For daily tasks like shopping, commuting, errands, and all-purpose 
exercise, ride your favorite bicycle. A the risk of sounding self-serving, 
I'd say--get more than one special bike. You probably do that, or want to 
do that anyway."

I think this thread is a testament to the fact that many of us have more 
than one special Bicycle.

-Dave
On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:28:06 PM UTC-4 Slin wrote:

> Guy -
>
> Those are some great bikes, I wish I could help slim down the herd, but my 
> frame size is smaller. Is there a story for how you ended up with so many 
> 2022 bikes?
>
> S
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have way too much overlap in my quiver:
>>
>> 2015 Soma San Marcos (Tiburon Blue) - 57cm
>> 2018 Atlantis  (650B) - 56cm
>> 2022 Crust Canti Romanceur (Pistachio) - 57cm
>> 2022 Sam Hillborne (HiHo Silver) - 57cm
>> 2004ish Rambouillet (Joe Bell Custom Brown) - 60cm
>> 2022 Wolbis/Susie (Dark Gold) - 56cm
>> 2021 Gus Boots (Mermaid) - 59cm
>> 2022 Roadini (RBW Orange) - 57cm
>> 2020 Platypus (Mermaid) - 60cm
>> 2022 Rosco Bubbe - (Purple) - 60cm
>>
>> I would really like to slim down the herd!  You interested in helping?
>>
>> Guy
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:03:48 PM UTC-6 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>
>>> Bikes in order of use:
>>>
>>>1. Brand new Platypus for City riding
>>>2. Spectrum titanium road bike (frame fabricated by Seven) 
>>>for clipped in rides and longer road tours
>>>3. Rambouillet for more spirited city rides.
>>>4. Sam outfitted as a gravel bike for country rides
>>>5. Xtracycle cargo bike with a large aftermarket Bafang 1,000 watt 
>>>motor for shopping.
>>>6. Brompton for train and plane travel and occasional last mile 
>>>rides if driving to a big car traffic event
>>>7. 1986 Look Bernard Hinault Reynolds 753 steel bike.  Same frame as 
>>>the ones he a Lemond rode in the tour when the badger would not let Greg 
>>>usurp his team leadership and claim the Yellow Jersey.  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:30:19 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>> Bikes in order of use
>>>
>>>1. Joe Appa daily driver
>>>2. Raleigh sprite vintage fixed for variety in commute
>>>3. 90's GT avalanche for occasional MTB'ing
>>>4. Dahon boardwalk guest bike I will occasionally use
>>>5. Vintage Schwinn tandem for occasional fun ride. Kickback 2 speed
>>>
>>> Apparently I have too (two) few bikes!
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:45:16 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs 
>>> with justification. I think it was 7.
>>>  Any idea which reader it was in?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Tom Palmer
>>> Twin Lake, MI
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[chintan jadwani]

I only recently started building my bike with some thought and forum 
discussions of this group showed up in my Google search. I decided to join 
after reading some relevant discussions and the FS email chains gave me 
some confidence to buy directly from the members.

I've made only one purchase "attempt", which failed because after I made 
the payment the seller told me that it was not according to the terms and 
after a couple of messages to redo the transaction, stopped responding. 
This was a weird experience because I'd made a payment and still was 
accused of being a scammer. Anyway, I tried to be nice, to at least get a 
refund from the payment company - but got no response. Can't completely 
blame the seller, must have had bad experiences. I've made a couple of 
purchases from the bob group without any hassles and am confident future 
purchases will be positive here too :)

Chintan


On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:56:42 PM UTC+5:30 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I'm surprised at this, having bought and sold many times on this list (and 
> even much more on the Boblist) with no problems I can remember except 2 or 
> 3 instances of excited people piping up ME! ME! ME! upon a FS announcement 
> and then never replying to your email replies.
>
> Conway, can you elaborate on the grief? Just invalid paypal payments?
>
> Others, can you describe your bad experiences of selling and buying onlist?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 6:00 AM Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
>> PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
>> about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
>> because of the grief associated with the list.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Fun with ChatGPT

[Andrew Turner]

"Twinkies, man." - Grant Peterson. 
HA

On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 4:49:31 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:

> Ha, and chatgpt thinks A Homer Hilsen:  "is named after Homer Hilsen, a 
> bicycling enthusiast and the founder of the Hostel Shoppe in Wisconsin."
>
> It just likes to make stuff up--legendary bicycle advocate Sam Hill, ha!
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 10:41 PM  wrote:
>
>> Or Kendall Mint Cakes.
>>
>> Robert Tilley 
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 9:54 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>> Should have asked it to discus ye olde high-carb snack cakes.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 4:36:01 PM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Wow! Scary! Fortuantely, I don't think ChatGPT has quite nailed Grant 
>>> Petersen's gestalt...and I think he watches his blood sugar pretty 
>>> carefully. Still...it's scary...pretty much nailed the Sam Hillborne
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 4:29:58 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 Chat GPT: “Write about Twinkies in the style of Grant Petersen:

 Twinkies, man. They're like these little golden cylinders of pure 
 delight, packed with a sugary sweetness that makes your taste buds dance. 
 They're the ultimate guilty pleasure, a nostalgic indulgence that takes 
 you 
 back to carefree childhood days. But hey, they're not just a snack, man, 
 they're an experience. The spongy cake, the creamy filling - it's a 
 perfect 
 union of texture and flavor that's hard to resist. Sure, they might not be 
 the healthiest choice, but sometimes you just gotta let go and treat 
 yourself to a bite of that iconic Twinkie goodness. Life's too short not 
 to 
 enjoy the simple pleasures, man. Twinkies, man. They're classic, they're 
 iconic, and they're a little piece of Americana that brings joy to your 
 taste buds with every delicious bite. So go ahead, indulge in that guilty 
 pleasure and savor the sugary sweetness that's been satisfying cravings 
 for 
 generations. It's a taste of nostalgia, a bite of childhood memories, and 
 a 
 guilty pleasure that's hard to resist. Just remember to enjoy in 
 moderation, man, because life's all about balance. 

 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com
 Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
 YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning: Bags, Brakes, Crank, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

No worries, that’s why I’m selling my stuff in the first place!

Cheers,
Andrew

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:22 AM John Dewey  wrote:

> Andrew, I apologize, but I was just reminded that I've spent too much
> lately on bike stuff so I'd better pass on the tires.
>
> Good price, you'll sell 'em easily.
>
> BEST / JD
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 6:04 AM Andrew Turner 
> wrote:
>
>> They're yours! I'll get those packed up now. I'll probably just use a
>> flat-rate box so shipping will be $16. If that works for you, payment can
>> be sent via PayPal to andyreedturner@gmail along with shipping info.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:46 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew, I’ll grab the 5000s if still available.
>>>
>>> Jock Dewey
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:38 PM Andrew Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's an updated list:
 *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use
 some new brake pads)
 $65

 *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top
 middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar
 light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the
 price reflects all that.
 $40

 *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100
 miles.
 $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)

 *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could
 use some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
 $30

 *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all
 very lightly used
 $150

 *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm
 not the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never
 used it either!
 $100

 -

 I've also got a pair of like-new *Continental Grand Prix 5000 black
 700x32* tires if anyone's interested. They've got less than 20 miles
 on them.
 $55 for the pair + shipping

 On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:16:19 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Price correction on the Sugino XD2 crankset.
> I meant to post it as $110, my fault!
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:14:31 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Dura Ace front derailleur and Shimano R600 brakes are sold!
>>
>> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Pictures here:
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q3GaT9EnzUh7yzt5
>>>
>>> Prices do not include shipping (CONUS)
>>>
>>> *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use
>>> some new brake pads)
>>> $65
>>>
>>> *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the
>>> top middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a
>>> handlebar light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so
>>> hopefully the price reflects all that.
>>> $40
>>>
>>> *Selle Anatomica Series 2 Carbon Rail:* New, never used.
>>> $50
>>>
>>> *Surly Chain Tensioner:* includes both springs it came with. Used
>>> for a two jaunts around town but I've since moved on to a bike with
>>> horizontal dropouts rendering this useless. Worked great though and 
>>> easy to
>>> install!
>>> $30
>>>
>>> *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100
>>> miles.
>>> $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)
>>>
>>> *Nitto Technomic Quill Stem: *8cm 26.0 clamp, lightly used
>>> $30
>>>
>>> *Dura Ace front derailleur:* 31.8 clamp, double, lightly used
>>> $28
>>>
>>> *Shimano BR-R600 Brakeset:* Near mint but w/o brake shoes. 47-57mm
>>> reach
>>> $80
>>>
>>> *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could
>>> use some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
>>> $30
>>>
>>> *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all
>>> very lightly used
>>> $150
>>>
>>> *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm
>>> not the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I 
>>> never
>>> used it either!
>>> $100
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pamela Murray: Bike Hero

[Pam Bikes]

Thanks again for all the kind words.  Please join me for CyclingSavvy 
sometime.  The classroom portion is via Zoom so anyone can join.  The on 
bike sessions are usually in Charlotte, NC.  Occasionally I teach in other 
locations.  A friend is asking me to teach again in Key West sometime.  Let 
me know if you want to join me there.  Here's the link.  But I'll schedule 
a course for you when you're interested.  Just let me know a good time for 
you.
https://cyclingsavvy.org/organizer/pamela-murray-2/

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 12:58:52 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> What a great message and a great video. Well done! 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 10:52:51 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>
>> Pam, you are an inspiration!  Thank you for all the encouragement and 
>> instruction for riders of all abilities.  I thoroughly enjoyed the video 
>> and your message.  
>>
>> Leah, thank you for sharing the video.
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:21:01 AM UTC-7 Stephanie A. wrote:
>>
>>> Pam! What wonderful work you do! So many people have understandable 
>>> fears associated with riding, and you're really doing the work of helping 
>>> to reduce those and bring people into riding.
>>> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 9:26:53 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Kudos to Pam! +1 that errand riding with a goal in mind, even if this 
 means extending a 1 mile shopping rt into a 20 mile loop, is the best 
 riding, IMO.


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> Here is further recent acknowledgment of Pam: 
> https://www.planetbike.com/blog/meet-our-winter-super-commuter-pamela-murray-/
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning: Bags, Brakes, Crank, etc.

[John Dewey]

Andrew, I apologize, but I was just reminded that I've spent too much
lately on bike stuff so I'd better pass on the tires.

Good price, you'll sell 'em easily.

BEST / JD

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 6:04 AM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> They're yours! I'll get those packed up now. I'll probably just use a
> flat-rate box so shipping will be $16. If that works for you, payment can
> be sent via PayPal to andyreedturner@gmail along with shipping info.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:46 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>
>> Andrew, I’ll grab the 5000s if still available.
>>
>> Jock Dewey
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:38 PM Andrew Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's an updated list:
>>> *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use
>>> some new brake pads)
>>> $65
>>>
>>> *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top
>>> middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar
>>> light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the
>>> price reflects all that.
>>> $40
>>>
>>> *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100
>>> miles.
>>> $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)
>>>
>>> *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could use
>>> some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
>>> $30
>>>
>>> *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all
>>> very lightly used
>>> $150
>>>
>>> *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm not
>>> the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never used
>>> it either!
>>> $100
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> I've also got a pair of like-new *Continental Grand Prix 5000 black
>>> 700x32* tires if anyone's interested. They've got less than 20 miles on
>>> them.
>>> $55 for the pair + shipping
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:16:19 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Price correction on the Sugino XD2 crankset.
 I meant to post it as $110, my fault!

 On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:14:31 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Dura Ace front derailleur and Shimano R600 brakes are sold!
>
> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Pictures here:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q3GaT9EnzUh7yzt5
>>
>> Prices do not include shipping (CONUS)
>>
>> *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use
>> some new brake pads)
>> $65
>>
>> *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the
>> top middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a
>> handlebar light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so
>> hopefully the price reflects all that.
>> $40
>>
>> *Selle Anatomica Series 2 Carbon Rail:* New, never used.
>> $50
>>
>> *Surly Chain Tensioner:* includes both springs it came with. Used
>> for a two jaunts around town but I've since moved on to a bike with
>> horizontal dropouts rendering this useless. Worked great though and easy 
>> to
>> install!
>> $30
>>
>> *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100
>> miles.
>> $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)
>>
>> *Nitto Technomic Quill Stem: *8cm 26.0 clamp, lightly used
>> $30
>>
>> *Dura Ace front derailleur:* 31.8 clamp, double, lightly used
>> $28
>>
>> *Shimano BR-R600 Brakeset:* Near mint but w/o brake shoes. 47-57mm
>> reach
>> $80
>>
>> *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could
>> use some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
>> $30
>>
>> *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all
>> very lightly used
>> $150
>>
>> *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm
>> not the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never
>> used it either!
>> $100
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning: Bags, Brakes, Crank, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

They're yours! I'll get those packed up now. I'll probably just use a
flat-rate box so shipping will be $16. If that works for you, payment can
be sent via PayPal to andyreedturner@gmail along with shipping info.

Cheers,
Andrew

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:46 PM John Dewey  wrote:

> Andrew, I’ll grab the 5000s if still available.
>
> Jock Dewey
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:38 PM Andrew Turner 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's an updated list:
>> *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use some
>> new brake pads)
>> $65
>>
>> *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top
>> middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar
>> light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the
>> price reflects all that.
>> $40
>>
>> *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100 miles.
>> $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)
>>
>> *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could use
>> some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
>> $30
>>
>> *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all very
>> lightly used
>> $150
>>
>> *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm not
>> the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never used
>> it either!
>> $100
>>
>> -
>>
>> I've also got a pair of like-new *Continental Grand Prix 5000 black
>> 700x32* tires if anyone's interested. They've got less than 20 miles on
>> them.
>> $55 for the pair + shipping
>>
>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:16:19 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Price correction on the Sugino XD2 crankset.
>>> I meant to post it as $110, my fault!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:14:31 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Dura Ace front derailleur and Shimano R600 brakes are sold!

 On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Pictures here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q3GaT9EnzUh7yzt5
>
> Prices do not include shipping (CONUS)
>
> *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use
> some new brake pads)
> $65
>
> *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top
> middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar
> light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the
> price reflects all that.
> $40
>
> *Selle Anatomica Series 2 Carbon Rail:* New, never used.
> $50
>
> *Surly Chain Tensioner:* includes both springs it came with. Used for
> a two jaunts around town but I've since moved on to a bike with horizontal
> dropouts rendering this useless. Worked great though and easy to install!
> $30
>
> *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100
> miles.
> $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)
>
> *Nitto Technomic Quill Stem: *8cm 26.0 clamp, lightly used
> $30
>
> *Dura Ace front derailleur:* 31.8 clamp, double, lightly used
> $28
>
> *Shimano BR-R600 Brakeset:* Near mint but w/o brake shoes. 47-57mm
> reach
> $80
>
> *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could
> use some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
> $30
>
> *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all
> very lightly used
> $150
>
> *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm
> not the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never
> used it either!
> $100
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB Large Rosco Baby in the next 12 months

[Michael Baquerizo]

i will say any bike with a top tube as opposed to a swooping tube is not 
something i’d recommend for a child carrier (if back seat is the eventual 
considerat) the ability to mount goes down severely when there’s a live 
being back there. unless you’re doing yoga and stretching regularly i’m 
just about sick of using my yepp in the back. i know you’re asking about 
the front but just piggy backing off the above statement 
On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:06:56 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Congratulations! How many humans do you ultimately see yourself toting 
> around? If only one, the Rosco Baby is great (if you can find one). I asked 
> myself the same question, and when I decided I was going to add >1 humans, 
> I bought an Appaloosa. I'm quite glad I did. Keep in mind that the reach is 
> not the only factor. In my experience, simply raising the child seat on the 
> stem is more effective at avoiding knee strike. Consider a low or negative 
> rise handlebar and the extra exposed stem length is plenty to keep your 
> knees free of the seat. This frame begs to be loaded, front and/or rear. So 
> from this point of view, unless you'd really like step-thru functionality, 
> it doesn't really matter which bike you choose as long as it is somewhat 
> stout and it fits you. Once my kids outgrew the weight limits on the seats 
> and our third roommate arrived I said "screw it I'm getting a cargo bike."
>
> [image: bike.JPG]
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 9:17:39 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I spoke to Will about the Rosco Baby and he told me the new Clem's 
>> are the closest thing to them. Big difference being that tubes in the Rosco 
>> Baby are burlier. 
>>
>> Joe in Los Angeles
>>
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Laing, Slin and Paul!
>>>
>>> In 2016 Riv listed the Clem L as follows:
>>> size 59 has an ETT of 64
>>> size 65 has an ETT of 67 
>>> both with STA and HTA of 71.5
>>>
>>> Paul, I wonder if yours was a newer version with an even longer 70cm ETT!
>>>
>>> I found this diagram for a 52 Rosco Baby, which shows a whopping 72.5 
>>> ETT! The main difference are the 70.5 HTA and the STA at 68 - I believe the 
>>> latter is a big part of the expanded top tube. i wonder what's the ETT on 
>>> the 58 Baby?
>>>
>>> The 56 Susie shows an ETT of 68.5 on the website, a bit longer than the 
>>> diagram I found below but still well below than the Rosco baby. Anyone has 
>>> experience with a front load on a Susie? Yeah, I'm looking for excuses to 
>>> buy Ryan's bike ;) My wife has a small Susie and it's a great bike.
>>>
>>> Max
>>> [image: IMG_0033.JPG]
>>> [image: 56cm susie.png]
>>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:10:12 PM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:
>>>
 I had a 64cm 2021 lime-olive Clem L and it had a 70cm effective top 
 tube. 

 On Monday, 10 April 2023 at 14:15:14 UTC-7 Slin wrote:

> Laing is right that the latest Clem L has a much longer top tube than 
> the Clementine, but it's not 4.5 inches longer.
>
> Max - Bosco bars are a great for getting more space for you and the 
> baby. Sizing up on a Clem for me has worked great to get space for my 
> knees 
> with the baby up front too.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 12:53:24 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> I have a Clementine and a Rosco Baby. BIG, BIG difference. The Rosco 
>> Baby Effective Top Tube is about 4-1/2 inches longer that the 
>> Clementine. 
>> 725mm for the Rosco Baby 52cm, 610mm for the Clementine 52cm. The 
>> current 
>> Clem may be slightly different than the original Clementine, but not 
>> 4-1/2 
>> inches.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> We've got a little one on the way and I've started thinking about a 
>>> bike for a Thule Yepp mini front seat without knee interference to ride 
>>> next summer!
>>>
>>> I have pretty long legs for my 5'11" height - pbh of 90.5 so I 
>>> always look for bikes with short-ish top tubes or use very short stems 
>>> which in mind provide the most comfortable fit for me. I don't think 
>>> any of 
>>> my current bikes is ideal, the proto Gallop has long chainstays and a 
>>> swoopy top tube for swept back bars so considering geometry, I think it 
>>> is 
>>> the closest, but I don't think it'll handle the weight in the front 
>>> very 
>>> well. The Hunq and Bomba can take the weight, but they might leave me 
>>> feeling scrunched with limited space between the saddle and the child 
>>> seat. 
>>> Maybe I could get a long stem and a set of Boscos and try it out?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I've re-read many of the old posts about the Rosco Baby, and 
>>> even though it's hard to find a ton of info on these I decided that 
>>> ideally 
>>> I'd get a large