[RBW] Re: Clem L: Color It Mine!

[Kim H.]

Congratulations, Kiley on your new 59cm Clem "L" in RBW Blue !

Looking forward to seeing pictures from you soon of your beautiful bike.  

I have a lime olive green in the same size as yours. I would love to find a 
59cm Clem "L" frameset in RBW Blue in trade some day. I am enjoying what I 
have for now as my retirement bike, as well.  

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 7:15:07 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Well, will today’s threads ever stop delighting me? I am in raptures for 
> you, Kiley! I know you wanted orange, but I have that same blue Clem and 
> that paint is luscious. And, if you decide you simply must have orange, 
> then you can get it painted orange (several of your RivSisters have 
> custom-color Rivs) and be besotted with it. 
>
> If you can post photos and more stories about how you like the ride when 
> it all comes together, I would love to know. You’ve been waiting so long, 
> and it’s so good to see you get your retirement bike. I LOVE the L frame. 
> Just the best.
> Leah
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:30:31 PM UTC-4 Kiley Demond wrote:
>
>> I did it! I received the “BIS” (back in stock) email from Riv the weekend 
>> before last and bought a Clem L 59cm in blue! (I wonder where it was hiding 
>> in the warehouse or was it in a new container with Homers?)  I wanted an 
>> older gen in orange but what did I know? Blue is my second favorite color. 
>> Probably a better option because as a direct buyer of a new bike, the bike 
>> is warrantied as long as I own it. And the price was great! It hasn’t gone 
>> up in price so at $2050, a total bargain. And as a (female) American, I am 
>> motivated by a “deal” . 
>>
>> And of course, getting to ride! I have a bike that I have been “using” in 
>> the interim. Quote marks because I didn’t use it more than a couple of 
>> times all summer. I think it was subconsciously too daunting because it 
>> didn’t feel safe & secure, which is a Riv cornerstone. (And, there are 
>> already people who have added electric pedal-assist, which is a distinct 
>> possibility for the future, and I will not have to re-invent the wheel 來.) 
>> My energy soared as soon as I completed the purchase. I am beset with new 
>> bike excitement!
>>
>> Update: Bike arrived in 5 days! Seat tube tang got bent a smidge by some 
>> transport company (turned the box upside down because those big ↑ on the 
>> box are not enough—fabricator beau fixed it in a minute; now I need to seal 
>> the seat tube opening due to paint being scraped off to bare steel). 
>>
>> I have been busy the last couple of days with a friend's Celebration of 
>> Life, but can now turn my attention to my retirement bicycle! Let the 
>> pimping begin! Photos to follow when I get it a little further along. I 
>> have straddled it in my living room a couple of times and bless the 'L''! 
>>
>> First ride tomorrow! I'm bck! 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem L: Color It Mine!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Well, will today’s threads ever stop delighting me? I am in raptures for 
you, Kiley! I know you wanted orange, but I have that same blue Clem and 
that paint is luscious. And, if you decide you simply must have orange, 
then you can get it painted orange (several of your RivSisters have 
custom-color Rivs) and be besotted with it. 

If you can post photos and more stories about how you like the ride when it 
all comes together, I would love to know. You’ve been waiting so long, and 
it’s so good to see you get your retirement bike. I LOVE the L frame. Just 
the best.
Leah

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:30:31 PM UTC-4 Kiley Demond wrote:

> I did it! I received the “BIS” (back in stock) email from Riv the weekend 
> before last and bought a Clem L 59cm in blue! (I wonder where it was hiding 
> in the warehouse or was it in a new container with Homers?)  I wanted an 
> older gen in orange but what did I know? Blue is my second favorite color. 
> Probably a better option because as a direct buyer of a new bike, the bike 
> is warrantied as long as I own it. And the price was great! It hasn’t gone 
> up in price so at $2050, a total bargain. And as a (female) American, I am 
> motivated by a “deal” . 
>
> And of course, getting to ride! I have a bike that I have been “using” in 
> the interim. Quote marks because I didn’t use it more than a couple of 
> times all summer. I think it was subconsciously too daunting because it 
> didn’t feel safe & secure, which is a Riv cornerstone. (And, there are 
> already people who have added electric pedal-assist, which is a distinct 
> possibility for the future, and I will not have to re-invent the wheel 來.) 
> My energy soared as soon as I completed the purchase. I am beset with new 
> bike excitement!
>
> Update: Bike arrived in 5 days! Seat tube tang got bent a smidge by some 
> transport company (turned the box upside down because those big ↑ on the 
> box are not enough—fabricator beau fixed it in a minute; now I need to seal 
> the seat tube opening due to paint being scraped off to bare steel). 
>
> I have been busy the last couple of days with a friend's Celebration of 
> Life, but can now turn my attention to my retirement bicycle! Let the 
> pimping begin! Photos to follow when I get it a little further along. I 
> have straddled it in my living room a couple of times and bless the 'L''! 
>
> First ride tomorrow! I'm bck! 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

And I wanted a raspberry bike! So I also say make it happen for the yellow 
or orange bike!

I thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread, start to finish. I was as 
delighted as if it had been me who got the experience. How wonderful. But I 
would not have been brave enough to be doing single track out there with 
Riv People. You crashed twice? Nope, nope, nope. Put me back on the bike 
path please and thank you.

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:22:30 PM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> As a lady who also wanted a yellow bike... and custom painted one Make 
> it happen! Say goodbye to barf green!
>
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.
>>
>> Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
>> travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride around 
>> Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some odds 
>> and ends, but my wife has never been. 
>>
>> She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that I 
>> sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, but 
>> as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was excited for 
>> her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.
>>
>> We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
>> their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
>> about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, 
>> Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
>> amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was zipping 
>> around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
>> nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.
>>
>> Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the color 
>> of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in the 
>> light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
>> context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
>> nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should 
>> have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
>> friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up 
>> her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.
>>
>> After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer 
>> out the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride 
>> some trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James 
>> let me take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 
>>
>> We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan (on 
>> his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!
>>
>> They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give us 
>> the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
>> Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
>> first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??
>>
>> So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light 
>> trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan gave 
>> each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like 
>> you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"
>>
>> Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we spend 
>> most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban jungle of 
>> Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in general isn't 
>> the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly follow. I also 
>> felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also admit that I've 
>> never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so there was a lot of 
>> learning to do.
>>
>> What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least 
>> twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride 
>> with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the side 
>> of a hill which scored some laughs all around.
>>
>> As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride the 
>> terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The 
>> biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, pedal, 
>> pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was 
>> amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt and 
>> come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how 
>> skillfully both Grant and Dan rode the terrain, they're incredibly skillful 
>> but are never in your face about it.
>>
>> Along the way, we had great conversations about not just bikes, but life. 
>> I asked Grant if he was going to celebrate Riv's 30th 

Re: [RBW] Clem L: Color It Mine!

[Richard Rose]

This is so great. Congrats!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 18, 2023, at 8:30 PM, Kiley Demond  wrote:





I did it! I received the “BIS” (back in stock) email from Riv the weekend before last and bought a Clem L 59cm in blue! (I wonder where it was hiding in the warehouse or was it in a new container with Homers?)  I wanted an older gen in orange but what did I know? Blue is my second favorite color. Probably a better option because as a direct buyer of a new bike, the bike is warrantied as long as I own it. And the price was great! It hasn’t gone up in price so at $2050, a total bargain. And as a (female) American, I am motivated by a “deal” . 
And of course, getting to ride! I have a bike that I have been “using” in the interim. Quote marks because I didn’t use it more than a couple of times all summer. I think it was subconsciously too daunting because it didn’t feel safe & secure, which is a Riv cornerstone. (And, there are already people who have added electric pedal-assist, which is a distinct possibility for the future, and I will not have to re-invent the wheel 來.) My energy soared as soon as I completed the purchase. I am beset with new bike excitement!Update: Bike arrived in 5 days! Seat tube tang got bent a smidge by some transport company (turned the box upside down because those big ↑ on the box are not enough—fabricator beau fixed it in a minute; now I need to seal the seat tube opening due to paint being scraped off to bare steel). I have been busy the last couple of days with a friend's Celebration of Life, but can now turn my attention to my retirement bicycle! Let the pimping begin! Photos to follow when I get it a little further along. I have straddled it in my living room a couple of times and bless the 'L''! First ride tomorrow! I'm bck! 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Richard Rose]

Fantastic!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 18, 2023, at 8:01 PM, Kim H.  wrote:An absolutely wonderful and delight story. I enjoyed how well written it was, Joe. Most definitely truly a forevermemory for a lifetime. Thank-you, for sharing. Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:06:19 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:A very fine write-up of what seems to have been a wonderful experience, Joe! Thanks for bringing us along.Cheers, JohnOn Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:41:36 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:Great post. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a nice experience. On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:08:37 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:That's just sensational.  You'll remember that day forever!BL in ECOn Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:Hey All,I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride around Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some odds and ends, but my wife has never been. She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that I sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, but as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been hers. I was excited for her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was zipping around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the color of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in the light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer out the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride some trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James let me take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan (on his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give us the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan gave each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we spend most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban jungle of Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in general isn't the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly follow. I also felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also admit that I've never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so there was a lot of learning to do.What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the side of a hill which scored some laughs all around.As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride the terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, pedal, pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt and come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how skillfully both Grant and Dan rode the terrain, they're incredibly skillful but are never in your face about it.Along the way, we had great conversations about not just bikes, but life. I asked Grant if he was going to celebrate Riv's 30th anniversary next year to which he yelled "NO!" (though I suspect people will celebrate him and the team anyway) and in turn, he asked us about our lives, our interests, our hobbies, etc. It was great 

[RBW] Clem L: Color It Mine!

[Kiley Demond]

 

I did it! I received the “BIS” (back in stock) email from Riv the weekend 
before last and bought a Clem L 59cm in blue! (I wonder where it was hiding 
in the warehouse or was it in a new container with Homers?)  I wanted an 
older gen in orange but what did I know? Blue is my second favorite color. 
Probably a better option because as a direct buyer of a new bike, the bike 
is warrantied as long as I own it. And the price was great! It hasn’t gone 
up in price so at $2050, a total bargain. And as a (female) American, I am 
motivated by a “deal” . 

And of course, getting to ride! I have a bike that I have been “using” in 
the interim. Quote marks because I didn’t use it more than a couple of 
times all summer. I think it was subconsciously too daunting because it 
didn’t feel safe & secure, which is a Riv cornerstone. (And, there are 
already people who have added electric pedal-assist, which is a distinct 
possibility for the future, and I will not have to re-invent the wheel 來.) 
My energy soared as soon as I completed the purchase. I am beset with new 
bike excitement!

Update: Bike arrived in 5 days! Seat tube tang got bent a smidge by some 
transport company (turned the box upside down because those big ↑ on the 
box are not enough—fabricator beau fixed it in a minute; now I need to seal 
the seat tube opening due to paint being scraped off to bare steel). 

I have been busy the last couple of days with a friend's Celebration of 
Life, but can now turn my attention to my retirement bicycle! Let the 
pimping begin! Photos to follow when I get it a little further along. I 
have straddled it in my living room a couple of times and bless the 'L''! 

First ride tomorrow! I'm bck! 




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[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Sarah Carlson]

As a lady who also wanted a yellow bike... and custom painted one Make 
it happen! Say goodbye to barf green!


On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.
>
> Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
> travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride around 
> Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some odds 
> and ends, but my wife has never been. 
>
> She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that I 
> sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, but 
> as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was excited for 
> her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.
>
> We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
> their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
> about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, 
> Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
> amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was zipping 
> around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
> nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.
>
> Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the color 
> of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in the 
> light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
> context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
> nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should 
> have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
> friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up 
> her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.
>
> After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer out 
> the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride some 
> trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James let me 
> take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 
>
> We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan (on 
> his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!
>
> They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give us 
> the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
> Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
> first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??
>
> So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light 
> trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan gave 
> each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like 
> you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"
>
> Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we spend 
> most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban jungle of 
> Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in general isn't 
> the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly follow. I also 
> felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also admit that I've 
> never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so there was a lot of 
> learning to do.
>
> What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least 
> twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride 
> with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the side 
> of a hill which scored some laughs all around.
>
> As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride the 
> terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The 
> biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, pedal, 
> pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was 
> amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt and 
> come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how 
> skillfully both Grant and Dan rode the terrain, they're incredibly skillful 
> but are never in your face about it.
>
> Along the way, we had great conversations about not just bikes, but life. 
> I asked Grant if he was going to celebrate Riv's 30th anniversary next year 
> to which he yelled *"NO!"* (though I suspect people will celebrate him 
> and the team anyway) and in turn, he asked us about our lives, our 
> interests, our hobbies, etc. It was great to hear about his philosophy on 
> life, on bikes and everything in between. We joked about the French (my 
> wife is French) and Grant's struggles to pronounce French words. I even 
> snapped a few photos on my Kodak Ektar H35.
>
> Grant was also a great ride leader, explaining how to approach certain 
> sections in a non-condescending manner. The riding was 

[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Bill Lindsay]

I've gotten to ride with Grant a few times.  The most memorable one was 
when I was just stopping in for a couple small bits, and I was 
contemplating a floor model 650B Atlantis.  Grant walks up and:

GP: "Hey Bill"
BL: "Hi Grant"
GP: "We should go on a ride sometime"
BL: "I agree, that would be nice"
GP: ...
BL: ...
GP: "OK, grab a bike.  Let's go!"

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.
>
> Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
> travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride around 
> Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some odds 
> and ends, but my wife has never been. 
>
> She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that I 
> sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, but 
> as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was excited for 
> her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.
>
> We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
> their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
> about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, 
> Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
> amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was zipping 
> around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
> nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.
>
> Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the color 
> of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in the 
> light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
> context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
> nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should 
> have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
> friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up 
> her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.
>
> After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer out 
> the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride some 
> trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James let me 
> take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 
>
> We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan (on 
> his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!
>
> They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give us 
> the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
> Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
> first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??
>
> So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light 
> trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan gave 
> each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like 
> you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"
>
> Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we spend 
> most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban jungle of 
> Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in general isn't 
> the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly follow. I also 
> felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also admit that I've 
> never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so there was a lot of 
> learning to do.
>
> What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least 
> twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride 
> with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the side 
> of a hill which scored some laughs all around.
>
> As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride the 
> terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The 
> biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, pedal, 
> pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was 
> amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt and 
> come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how 
> skillfully both Grant and Dan rode the terrain, they're incredibly skillful 
> but are never in your face about it.
>
> Along the way, we had great conversations about not just bikes, but life. 
> I asked Grant if he was going to celebrate Riv's 30th anniversary next year 
> to which he yelled *"NO!"* (though I suspect people will celebrate him 
> and the team anyway) and in turn, he asked us about our lives, our 
> interests, our hobbies, etc. It was great to hear about his philosophy on 
> life, on bikes and everything in between. We joked about the 

Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[Kim H.]

@ Takashi -

I love the Pacific Northwest here in Washington state with all of the 
mountains and trees. It may rain eight or nine months out the year. 
However, when the sun is out and not too hot, It is absolutely glorious. 

I wanted to keep riding further on the Willapa Hills Trail, but I did not 
want to go too far beyond my limits. To experience such a beautiful trail 
was amazing.

I thank-you for your observation praise on my Clem.  

I see that you have the same pedals as I do. Cool !  

Have you considered buying some extension wings for your pedals  ?
https://www.rivbike.com/products/mks-monarch-extension

They really do help. 

Smiles to you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:04:02 AM UTC-7 Takashi wrote:

> Kim, you live in a very beautiful place! It must have been fun to ride 
> that trail.
> And your Clem is gorgeous.
>
> Mid-September and it's still very hot here.
> Soba (from which Japanese soba noodles are made) patches are in full bloom.
>
> [image: DSC03285.jpg]
>
> Takashi
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Kim H.]

An absolutely wonderful and delight story. I enjoyed how well written it 
was, Joe. Most definitely truly a forever
memory for a lifetime. 

Thank-you, for sharing. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:06:19 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> A very fine write-up of what seems to have been a wonderful experience, 
> Joe! Thanks for bringing us along.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:41:36 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Great post. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a nice experience. 
>>
>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:08:37 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> That's just sensational.  You'll remember that day forever!
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:
>>>
 Hey All,

 I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.

 Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
 travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride 
 around 
 Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some 
 odds 
 and ends, but my wife has never been. 

 She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that 
 I sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, 
 but as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was excited 
 for her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.

 We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
 their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
 about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, 
 Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
 amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was 
 zipping 
 around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
 nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.

 Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the 
 color of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in 
 the light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
 context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
 nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should 
 have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
 friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up 
 her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.

 After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer 
 out the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride 
 some trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James 
 let me take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 

 We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan 
 (on his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!

 They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give 
 us the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
 Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
 first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??

 So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light 
 trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan 
 gave 
 each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like 
 you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"

 Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we 
 spend most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban 
 jungle of Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in 
 general isn't the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly 
 follow. I also felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also 
 admit that I've never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so 
 there was a lot of learning to do.

 What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least 
 twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride 
 with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the 
 side 
 of a hill which scored some laughs all around.

 As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride 
 the terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The 
 biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, 
 pedal, 
 pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was 
 amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt 
 and 
 come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how 

[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[John Rinker]

A very fine write-up of what seems to have been a wonderful experience, 
Joe! Thanks for bringing us along.

Cheers, John

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:41:36 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:

> Great post. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a nice experience. 
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:08:37 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> That's just sensational.  You'll remember that day forever!
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:
>>
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>> I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.
>>>
>>> Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
>>> travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride around 
>>> Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some odds 
>>> and ends, but my wife has never been. 
>>>
>>> She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that 
>>> I sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, 
>>> but as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was excited 
>>> for her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.
>>>
>>> We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
>>> their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
>>> about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, 
>>> Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
>>> amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was zipping 
>>> around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
>>> nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.
>>>
>>> Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the color 
>>> of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in the 
>>> light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
>>> context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
>>> nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should 
>>> have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
>>> friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up 
>>> her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.
>>>
>>> After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer 
>>> out the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride 
>>> some trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James 
>>> let me take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 
>>>
>>> We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan (on 
>>> his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!
>>>
>>> They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give 
>>> us the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
>>> Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
>>> first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??
>>>
>>> So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light 
>>> trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan gave 
>>> each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like 
>>> you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"
>>>
>>> Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we spend 
>>> most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban jungle of 
>>> Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in general isn't 
>>> the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly follow. I also 
>>> felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also admit that I've 
>>> never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so there was a lot of 
>>> learning to do.
>>>
>>> What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least 
>>> twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride 
>>> with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the side 
>>> of a hill which scored some laughs all around.
>>>
>>> As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride 
>>> the terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The 
>>> biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, pedal, 
>>> pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was 
>>> amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt and 
>>> come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how 
>>> skillfully both Grant and Dan rode the terrain, they're incredibly skillful 
>>> but are never in your face about it.
>>>
>>> Along the way, we had great conversations about not just bikes, but 
>>> life. I asked Grant if he was going to celebrate Riv's 30th anniversary 
>>> next year to which he yelled *"NO!"* (though I suspect people will 
>>> celebrate him and the team anyway) and in 

[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Josh C]

Great post. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a nice experience. 

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:08:37 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> That's just sensational.  You'll remember that day forever!
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.
>>
>> Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
>> travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride around 
>> Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some odds 
>> and ends, but my wife has never been. 
>>
>> She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that I 
>> sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, but 
>> as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was excited for 
>> her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.
>>
>> We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
>> their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
>> about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, 
>> Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
>> amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was zipping 
>> around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
>> nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.
>>
>> Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the color 
>> of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in the 
>> light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
>> context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
>> nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should 
>> have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
>> friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up 
>> her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.
>>
>> After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer 
>> out the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride 
>> some trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James 
>> let me take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 
>>
>> We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan (on 
>> his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!
>>
>> They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give us 
>> the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
>> Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
>> first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??
>>
>> So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light 
>> trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan gave 
>> each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like 
>> you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"
>>
>> Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we spend 
>> most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban jungle of 
>> Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in general isn't 
>> the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly follow. I also 
>> felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also admit that I've 
>> never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so there was a lot of 
>> learning to do.
>>
>> What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least 
>> twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride 
>> with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the side 
>> of a hill which scored some laughs all around.
>>
>> As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride the 
>> terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The 
>> biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, pedal, 
>> pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was 
>> amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt and 
>> come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how 
>> skillfully both Grant and Dan rode the terrain, they're incredibly skillful 
>> but are never in your face about it.
>>
>> Along the way, we had great conversations about not just bikes, but life. 
>> I asked Grant if he was going to celebrate Riv's 30th anniversary next year 
>> to which he yelled *"NO!"* (though I suspect people will celebrate him 
>> and the team anyway) and in turn, he asked us about our lives, our 
>> interests, our hobbies, etc. It was great to hear about his philosophy on 
>> life, on bikes and everything in between. We joked about the French (my 
>> wife is French) and Grant's struggles to pronounce French words. I even 
>> 

[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Bill Lindsay]

That's just sensational.  You'll remember that day forever!

BL in EC

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.
>
> Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
> travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride around 
> Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some odds 
> and ends, but my wife has never been. 
>
> She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) that I 
> sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing bike, but 
> as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was excited for 
> her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true steed.
>
> We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
> their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
> about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a Platypus, 
> Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
> amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was zipping 
> around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
> nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.
>
> Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the color 
> of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in the 
> light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
> context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
> nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one should 
> have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
> friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking up 
> her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.
>
> After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer out 
> the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride some 
> trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James let me 
> take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 
>
> We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan (on 
> his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!
>
> They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give us 
> the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
> Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
> first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??
>
> So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some light 
> trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and Dan gave 
> each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two look like 
> you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll be fun!"
>
> Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we spend 
> most of our time on easier fire trails and pavement in the urban jungle of 
> Oakland. So... our experience on singletrack and trails in general isn't 
> the greatest. But when Grant says ride, you most certainly follow. I also 
> felt comfortable knowing we had them around. I must also admit that I've 
> never really taken my Clem L on this kind of terrain, so there was a lot of 
> learning to do.
>
> What followed was an amazing jaunt around Shell Ridge. I fell at least 
> twice, but there was no shame to be had. Dan shared that on his first ride 
> with Grant in Shell Ridge, he fell off his bike and slid 50ft down the side 
> of a hill which scored some laughs all around.
>
> As we went along, both Dan and Grant gave me some tips on how to ride the 
> terrain and by the second half I was having the time of my life. The 
> biggest thing I learned was to trust the long-wheel base, and pedal, pedal, 
> pedal. It took a bit of courage to do, but once I got the hang of it I was 
> amazed at how, yes, you really can pedal through those moments of doubt and 
> come away smiling. I'll never forget it. I was also in awe of how 
> skillfully both Grant and Dan rode the terrain, they're incredibly skillful 
> but are never in your face about it.
>
> Along the way, we had great conversations about not just bikes, but life. 
> I asked Grant if he was going to celebrate Riv's 30th anniversary next year 
> to which he yelled *"NO!"* (though I suspect people will celebrate him 
> and the team anyway) and in turn, he asked us about our lives, our 
> interests, our hobbies, etc. It was great to hear about his philosophy on 
> life, on bikes and everything in between. We joked about the French (my 
> wife is French) and Grant's struggles to pronounce French words. I even 
> snapped a few photos on my Kodak Ektar H35.
>
> Grant was also a great ride leader, explaining how to approach certain 
> sections in a non-condescending manner. The riding was technical, but I 
> never felt overwhelmed, and 

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[arthur]

I'm not sure my 64cm Clem L was ever on this. Here it 
is: 
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bop/d/tacoma-rivendell-clem-frame-fork-64cm/7660366383.html

Happy to sell for 750. plus shipping to the list. 

thanks!

Art
Tacoma


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[RBW] Re: WTB: large sackville saddlesack

[Stephen]

sent ya a PM

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:02:19 PM UTC-4 jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

> Looking for a large saddlesack for touring. Anybody have one they no 
> longer need? Please send PM - thanks!
>
> Jeff
> (Alabama)
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[RBW] FS: Vintage Componentry

[Kim H.]

 

FS: VINTAGE COMPONENTRY:

1.One set of used vintage white Bluemel 700C f/r fenders with an extra 
NOS Bluemel 700C white rear fender with twelve used Bluemel fender struts 
and hardware and small reflector - $80.00, plus shipping

2.   One pair of NOS Campagnolo Nouvo Record brake levers with new gum 
hoods. No logos on the gum hoods. - $200.00, plus shipping

3.   One Suntour Cyclone GT rear derailleur in excellent condition - 
$75.00, plus shipping 

   Two Suntour 1st generation front derailleurs in good condition - 
$35.00/each, plus shipping. Buy both for $60.00, plus shipping. 

4.  Two matching attachable metal rear underside saddle loops a little 
tarnish - $10.00, free shipping. 

5.   Vintage used 1976 orange Eclipse Professional handlebar bag with a 
rare Eclipse “Seat-Post Thing” made of cast aluminum.  I recently machine 
washed the bag after taking out the Mylar support sleeve. I am unable to 
put it back. Maybe you can ?  The bag has some wear spots and some 
threading separation. Otherwise, it is very functional. I do not have the 
map case. The original stabilizing bungees lost their elasticity over the 
years, thus I have included two small newer bungees. I would like to sell 
the bag, bracket and the “Seat-Post Thing” altogether for $85.00, plus 
shipping.

6.  One bike’s worth of used Scott Mathauser brake pad inserts for 
Campagnolo Nouvo Record brake shoes. - $10.00, free shipping. 

7.   NIB/NOS Six speed Suntour freewheel – 14-32T - $140.00, plus shipping. 

8.  NOS Christophe black toe straps with two used pairs of Christopher toe 
clips and hardware with leather pull straps (?)- $50.00, plus shipping.

9.  One Used Silca 21” orange frame pump with leather washers – one new and 
two used. $45.00, plus shipping. 

10. One NOS Wolber 700c 36-hole M58 rim and one used Super Champion 700c 
36-hole rim in good condition with side wall wear. I would like to sell 
both for $75.00, plus shipping. 

11. Two used Suntour double down tube cable stops in good condition - 
$15.00 for the two or $10.00/each, free shipping. 

If there are items or one item that you are interested in, I am open to 
your best offer(s). 

Pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/hbT3xQwjhvAodCAk9

If this link does not work, let me know. 

I accept Paypal only. Friends and family preferred. Exact shipping costs 
will be determined at the time of shipping through my local post office. 

Any questions, email me.

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel

Yelm, WA. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tire advice for my Toyo homer/max tire size

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Thanks, everyone! Getting the positive feedback is great.

-Josh

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[RBW] Re: For sale: SR MTE-100 wayback seatpost, 26.8

[Eric Marth]

Seatpost is sold, thanks! 

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:53:01 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> How about $75 shipped?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 4:36:31 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_7415.JPG]
>>
>> Hi all — Asking $100 plus shipping for the seatpost. SR MTE-100 in the 
>> 26.8 diameter. Fits most Rivs. Includes the original quick release clamp 
>> which I didn't care for. I replaced it with an M8 bolt, a lock washer and a 
>> nylock nut. 
>>
>> PayPal Friends and/or Family and Venmo preferred. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_7416.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_7417.JPG]
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Gravelking SS 650B x 43 Pair

[Johnny Alien]

Sold. Thanks!

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:38:06 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Black sidewalls, tubeless ready, 650B x 43. The SS is the version between 
> the smooth guy and the SK guy. It is my favorite of the gravelkings because 
> it seems to be a master of all. I put these on my bike and rode a few miles 
> and then decided I wanted to try something new because I have these tires 
> on two other bikes. So I would call these 99.9% new. I could hold onto them 
> but I hate storing tires. *$50 shipped*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I had a longer, rambling, draft response on this topic that is better left 
unread and may revisit to actually re-organize my thoughts at some point 
and maybe add to the discussion but had to at least come back to add one 
note:  With all the mention of WIDE legs and '90's attire returning... as 
another 90's (Gen. 'something or another' and class of '99!) member, I 
can't help but imagine someone attempting a tuck/peg & fold or ankle 
strapping on some of those ultra wide JNCO jeans for a ride.  Thanks for 
the much needed laughs!  The kind with deep pockets could even carry a 
pump, tube(s), toolkit, snacks, Hydroflasks, etc!  Who needs racks or bags 
or jersey pockets?!

Brian
Lawrence NJ

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 3:52:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> If you are claiming credit for turning me into a fop, then I'd dispute 
> that claim
> If you are claiming credit for helping make the RBW Group a more welcoming 
> space for people like me to let their fop flag fly, then I'd definitely 
> agree.
>
> :)
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:45:48 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to 
>> remain humble over here.
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". 
>> They are addictive.
>>
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your 
>>> LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!
>>>
>>> Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling 
>>> turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all 
>>> Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! 
>>>
>>> My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on 
>>> wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days 
>>> and also really fun party shirts:
>>>
>>> https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirts
>>>
>>> That, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals 
>>> is my go-to bike fit for May-September. 
>>> [image: IMG_1330.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always 
>>> folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. 
>>>
>>> - Christian in Colorado, 
>>> who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…
>>> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy 
 treating you? 

 Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a 
 matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…

 I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it 
 will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of 
 trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years 
 of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) 
 so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers 
 to help me.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:

 The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking 
 then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants 
 at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a 
 tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my 
 drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to 
 rectify this issue. 



 However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed 
 jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the 
 other 
 side! 

 On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But 
> where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion 
> on the bike?
>
> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band 
> wagon. 
> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg 
> trouser. 
>
> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the 
> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall 
> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried 
> about getting grease 

Re: [RBW] Re: V-Brake Measurement Request

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Thank you, Will, for linking the archived v-brake page - I recall the 
original page existing but forgot to where the archives moved (bookmark now 
saved, thanks!)  This helps a similar scenario on my Clem.  I recall I 
first tried to install a Nitto Mini Campee 32f at some point in the past 
but that it was a no-go for the same reasons mentioned above: v-brake cable 
crossing almost directly in front of the crown hole.  The rack ended up on 
a different build until recently and I decided to do another test with the 
rack now in hand again.   It seems I had only tried it with the cable going 
OVER the rack support with that first install attempt.As it turns out, 
moving my v-brake cable under the rack support has much less interference 
once the rack is fully bolted onto the fork.  The v-brake noodle boot now 
just kind of rests against the underside of the rack support with very 
little deflection of the cable itself.  

During use on recent rides the boot did work its way over and out of 
position from pressing against the rack tubing leaving direct cable/rack 
contact but still very slight.  Matching up my Tektro v-brakes from the 
list linked by Will and a quick measurement on the bike I have one of the 
110mm length Tektro models and moving to something a bit shorter (in the 
95-100mm range) should clear just fine.  As an interim (maybe even longer 
term solution) I'm now considering just using a short piece of brake cable 
housing and lashing it to the bottom of the rack support (with thread or 
twine, etc.) to then guide the cable without wearing against the rack 
tubing since the clearance really is minimal going under.  Unless I could 
get around to a brake swap with some Avid 1.0 v-brakes on one of my spouses 
bikes that looks to have closer to 100mm arm length.  Eliminating some 
squeal on hers has been on the to-do list anyway so might be a no cost 
win-win to just swap all the arms soon.

Brian
Lawrence NJ

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:03:56 PM UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have found this list of v-brake arm length 
>  
> measurements useful on multiple occasions.  Not directly related to request 
> but may be of interest.
>
> Will
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:47:59 PM UTC-4 Mark Schneider wrote:
>
>> I should have mentioned this is on an Atlantis II.
>>
>> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:47:04 PM UTC-7 Mark Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> I have the same rack, and Deore XT V-brake, works fine. Just re-did the 
>>> cable today, cable is running on top. I don't bother with noodles.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 1:46:01 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>>
 Thanks all!

 Just as I suspected, the Shimanos won’t work. BTW, forgot to mention 
 that my bike uses 700c wheels. 

 Definitely too stubborn to remove my beloved Nitto rack, but curious 
 enough to try the Tektros. Will post results when I get them in and 
 attempt 
 and install. 

 Many thanks for the responses and pics. Cheers,
 Tony

 On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:22:50 AM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I did VO and bent under with my canti setup and power hanger. Not V 
> brakes but work well.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 10:52 AM aeroperf  wrote:
>
>> We're running Tektro 837 brakes under a Mark’s Rack on my wife's 
>> Platypus.
>> This is the 50Cm Platy with 650b wheels, so your geometry may vary.
>>
>> 4.25 inches from the center of the brake post to the wire, 4.35 
>> inches to the top of the brake arm, and 5 inches to the bottom of the 
>> rack.
>>
>> [image: Front BrakeS.JPG]
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[RBW] FS: Gravelking SS 650B x 43 Pair

[Johnny Alien]

Black sidewalls, tubeless ready, 650B x 43. The SS is the version between 
the smooth guy and the SK guy. It is my favorite of the gravelkings because 
it seems to be a master of all. I put these on my bike and rode a few miles 
and then decided I wanted to try something new because I have these tires 
on two other bikes. So I would call these 99.9% new. I could hold onto them 
but I hate storing tires. *$50 shipped*

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Re: [RBW] Sunrace 11 speed cassette

[Patrick Moore]

Man, I'd be interested -- to use it as a 12-28 10-speed -- but even with 11
cogs they leave out the all-important 16 t. Very odd. I was exerting a
great deal of anguish about that gap back in the 7-speed days.

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 5:51 PM Kushan  wrote:

> Looking to part ways with an 11-speed Sunrace road cassette (11-28). This
> came on a recent acquisition and is incompatible with all my 8/9 speed
> drivetrains, so hoping to pass it on. It is used but has lots of miles left
> on it - would make a great tinkering project for someone.
>
> Asking for $25 to me + shipping.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tire advice for my Toyo homer/max tire size

[Patrick Moore]

+1. Nice and different.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 5:54 PM Paul Richardson 
wrote:

> i've gotta join the chorus--that bicycle is really, really nice, and a
> markedly different build than i've seen on a homer.  thanks for posting.

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