[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Erik]

Evening, 

Based on the parameters and details you provided, I think that a Hillborne 
or Appaloosa would work well.  Or an Atlantis instead of the Appaloosa.  I 
have all three, all set up very differently, but each has gone through a 
lot of iterations.  The key for me would be what type of trails you are 
wanting to ride, your size, and trail riding style.  The Hillborne is a 
great bike, fun on the road and pretty nimble on the trail.  The Hillborne 
has a smaller tire width max and lighter tubes.  The Appaloosa or the 
Atlantis are longer and have stouter tubes.  They also take up to a 2.2 
tire.  I've run both as primarily trail bikes and they handled pretty much 
anything I wanted to ride except for the most extreme trails in my local 
parks.  They work really well as trail bikes.  I've run them with 1x 11 (50 
large cog) set ups, 3 x 9  with 11-34 cassettes, and now as 2x.  I live in 
northern California and do a lot of climbing.  The gearing has always been 
fantastic.  My Appaloosa was my primary commuting bike for about five 
years.

Here's my Instagram if you want to get a look at some of the set ups that 
I've used over the years.  It's mostly 
bikes: https://www.instagram.com/lith.o.carp.us/

Hope that helps!

Erik

On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 5:43:49 PM UTC-7 Bud Suttree wrote:



With all that said, of the current offerings, what would y’all recommend? 


Thank you

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[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Jason Fuller]

When this question arises, regardless of the circumstances we all tend to 
recommend the Riv that we have - which makes sense, since they are all 
fantastic and highly versatile bikes, plus we probably bought the one that 
best suited our own preconceptions. 

In that light I will wholeheartedly support the Hillborne. It's long versus 
old road bikes, but it's not long. I've said it many times already but I'll 
say it again; it is the most perfect evolution of the all-rounder in the 
lineup in my opinion. The tire clearance isn't huge, but you can fit as 
much tire with fenders as makes sense with fenders; and you can fit the 
same size tires we used to MTB on without fenders. I can't imagine being 
unhappy with the Hillborne. It works great with drops, flats, or swept bars 
(but not the super swept ones - Albatross is perfect on it).  The rear end 
is long enough you can fit panniers without heel strike, but short enough 
that it still feels road-ish in its manners. It can be loaded to the gills 
for a big tour, but it doesn't feel wrong when completely unloaded. 

I will always own a Hillborne, I'm sure of this, and that's the only bike I 
can say that about.  



On Friday 5 April 2024 at 17:43:49 UTC-7 Bud Suttree wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> Been enjoying these forums for a while now, with my first post I’d like to 
> lean on the immense collective wisdom here and get some help with picking 
> out the right Rivendell model. I’ve done quite a lot of personal research 
> and spoken to Riv at least once but would like to open things up to the 
> group for general discussion. 
>
>
> Short sketch of my problem: I love bicycles, but haven’t enjoyed riding 
> them in a long time. I have quite a few, and they all are unpleasant to 
> ride for one reason or another. My priorities are, in descending order: 
> comfort, performance (perceived), utility, price/aesthetics (tie), 
> performance (actual), and at the end would be the ability to do any 
> outer-boundary/end-of-spectrum type activity, riding across the country or 
> racing crits, etc. My ideal bike would be something that could ride 15-20 
> miles to the trail and then 10-15 more on the trail. And also manage 
> chipotle, beer, and post office runs. 
>
>
> Every time I browse the Riv offerings I become convinced I need a 
> different model. I’m thinking maybe the Atlantis would suit me, but I don’t 
> necessarily love the double top tube, and I’d probably be between the 57 
> and 59. The Appaloosa seems pretty similar, but I’m not crazy about either 
> of the current colors. Can’t say I can tell the difference between that one 
> and the Sam, but I like the Sam aesthetic better. I’m also tempted by the 
> gold Susie/Wolbis, but since I’ll be riding mostly around town, worry that 
> it might not feel as agile as the bikes I’m use to riding do.
>
>
> That’s the short version — would welcome any takes or opinions. 
>
>
> Longer story:
>
>
> Like the rest of you, I love bicycles. A substantial amount of my 
> attention is given to them, day after day, in one way or another. 
> Unfortunately, lately this has not translated into actually riding them 
> very often. It’s a paradoxical state, induced by having too many (project) 
> bikes, none of which I can tolerate to ride for more than half an hour. 
> It’s mostly a comfort issue. FWIW, I am a not unhealthy late 20something 
> male with probably poorish posture from desk-jockeying. I rode an aluminum 
> Cannondale road bike daily for five years, crashed, broke some bones and 
> swore it off for two, then entered this present cycle. 
>
>
> Economic realities necessitate the need to flip bikes and parts to fund 
> the passion. Maybe you think that’s a dirty trade; most are. I’ve had the 
> good fortune to pick up an outrageously rare old school BMX bike for 
> essentially nothing that should cover a very nice Rivendell build, and 
> hopefully obviate the need to engage in as much cycling commerce. 
>
>
> Along the way, I’ve acquired an interesting stable:
>
>- 93 Bridgestone RB-1 and MB-2 
>- Custom 90s Ciocc w/ Columbus EL and Chorus 
>- 93ish lugged Trek 990 
>- 1985 Trek 620 
>
> and a cache of interesting parts, so it’s not been for nothing, but I 
> don’t like riding any of those bikes. Had (still have?) big dreams for the 
> RB-1, but cannot tolerate the reach. Have tried a bunch of stem/saddle 
> options, no luck. Currently building it up w/ a Soma Highway bar and zero 
> setback post, preliminary fit check not promising. Found a crack in the 
> MB’s fork when I was tearing it down and don’t think I want to invest in it 
> without the biplane fork. The Ciocc’s max tire clearance for Corsas is 23 
> rear/25 front. The 990 might be all right, and the 620 too, but both need a 
> ton of work. 
>
>
> I’m tired of projects. Wrenching is fun but riding is better, and it was 
> never my goal to be a collector of anything. So, instead of trying to make 
> all these old bikes “like” the bike that I 

Re: [RBW] how wide of wheels and tires will a specialized seqoia handle

[ant ritchey]

I had a big blue one, the 66cm from 198?

700x38 Passelas with some mid-reach Tektro worked very, very well!

On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 12:00:29 PM UTC-7 Kieran J wrote:

> My wife had an '83 Sequoia and it fit around 700x35 without fenders. Front 
> was a bit tighter than rear.
>
> KJ
>
> [image: IMG_1076.JPG][image: IMG_1078.JPG]
>
> On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-7 Mark R. wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_0295.jpeg]Plenty of room. That’s an 84, with Specialized 
>> tires marked 28 but measured 23. I ran true 32s
>>
>>
>> Mark R
>> Sdca
>> On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 7:55:27 PM UTC-7 esoter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bo,
>>>
>>> I had a later Sequoia (most likely an '85) that could also comfortably 
>>> fit the Soma Supple Vitesse 700c X 33's,  and looks like you could probably 
>>> squeeze in a 35. Probably 28's are the widest you could run and still fit 
>>> fenders. I also converted it to 650b for a while, and I was able to fit 
>>> Schwalbe G-Ones which measured just over 40mm wide. 
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>> Kailua, HI
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2024, at 08:09, bo richardson  wrote:
>>>
>>> there is a steel sequoia I am looking at remotely.
>>>
>>> the tires on it say 23mm and look narrow as knife blades
>>> there doesn't seem to be a lot of room beyond that 
>>> for wider wheels and tires.
>>>
>>> I bet there are 20 people on the list with experience 
>>> with this situation
>>>
>>> is the sequoia a good solution for someone hoping for
>>> 32s or at least 28s?
>>>
>>> fenders would be too much to hope for?
>>>
>>> thanks for the expertise
>>>
>>> Bo 
>>> Bellingham
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Packing Cubes

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5epqOquzcG/?igsh=aHp6bzhzZThqZng3

And here’s another example of why I needed packing cubes. A spoof of sorts, 
but still! (I made this promo for our bike club last year…)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtFWQnVAyaF/?igsh=Z3Bxdms0MzZ5ejQz

On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> [image: IMG_6058.jpeg]
>
> I likely have to do this in parts because Google Groups has been so 
> temperamental lately. 
>
> Anyway, I’m probably the last to know, but I discovered Something of Great 
> Help and am passing it along. 
>
> It’s 30 Days of Biking and I needed a post for today on my Instagram, so I 
> decided to write about my Cotopaxi packing cubes. When I was at the Philly 
> Bike Expo, Pam and I almost never had time to come back to our room to get 
> things. The weather in March is highly variable in Philedelphia, so we had 
> to pack whatever we’d need for the day and carry it on our bikes. Pam and I 
> started with an early morning (chilly!) group ride to a coffee shop, so we 
> needed warm exercise-friendly clothes there. Then it was straight to the 
> Expo, and I wanted to wear a cute ‘fit and not workout wear - a spring 
> sweater and fuchsia flare pants, so I had to bring them. We needed warm 
> things for the night ride to the after-party. Water. Snacks. We had our 
> Sackville bags, and we just took turns rifling through them, stuff flying 
> out and us carrying on about how we couldn’t find anything. “Where are my 
> arm warmers!” “Did I bring my thermal headband?” And so on. Several times I 
> believed I had left something back at the room, only to find it later in 
> the dark corners of my cavernous bag. I found stray vials of saline, a 
> Siamese cat sticker, smashed oat bars, loose dolla dolla bills yo, a 
> glove…This is ridiculous, I thought. I’m going to go home and find some 
> kind of solution. 
>
> I found Cotopaxi Packing Cubes. You can get them on Amazon or from 
> Cotopaxi and they are so, so reasonable. They come in colors you don’t get 
> to choose but will surely be delighted with, and in several sizes. These 
> are going to be great in my Backabike bags this summer when I do my Chicago 
> to New Buffalo overnight ride. They weigh nothing. They keep everything 
> organized and they are cute. I also ordered a Rivendell Mountain Works 
> pouch from Riv to keep tools in. I decided it would be better for greasy 
> tools than the light-colored, mesh-sided Cotopaxi cubes. I’m still 
> deliberating on what I should actually PUT in the tool pouch. 
>
> Anyway, here’s a pic or two and I’ll send the video, which is much better, 
> in the next post, if the Google Group gods allow it.
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

[iamkeith]

Oh - I mis-read your question.  For canti brakes, this (pulley) is 
absolutely superior.  Cleaner AND less friction
   I'll find some more pictures when I get home.  I thought you were asking 
about V brakes

On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 11:21:02 AM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> I missed this thread/question.  I did this on my susie, but mostly to be 
> able to use canti brakes.  I didnt like the big loop of housing in the 
> intended routing configuration, and imagined it would add friction and/or 
> get in the way - whether that's true or not.  I also have 2.8 tires with 
> fenders, and don't think V brakes would have sufficient tire clearance.  
> I'm happy with it.  I think that, for V brakes, you might eliminate some 
> housing length and friction just by similarly  skipping the last 
> tubular-shaped guide.  I think, for V brakes, the pulley adds unneccessary 
> complexity.
>
> On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 12:01:12 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Roy -
>>
>> I thank-you for your reality check and viewpoints about a roller guide 
>> application. I will be using the 135 degree noodle as Allan has suggested.
>>
>> Furthermore, I appreciate your comments that my cable should work better 
>> as long as I don’t make the cable loop too tight. In using Teflon lined 
>> housing, stainless cables, and a drop of light oil, I will be good to go.I 
>> will take these into consideration. Back in the 70s', there was cable 
>> housing called "elephant housing".
>>
>> Thank-you.
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 5:43 PM Roy Summer  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The roller set up doesn’t really reduce friction as the cable rubs the 
>>> roller and the roller turns as well.  The roller guide often moves and 
>>> causes cable issues if you’re not careful moving the bike or loading a 
>>> rack. The first set up (blue bike) should work better as long as you don’t 
>>> make the cable loop too tight. Use Teflon lined housing, stainless cables, 
>>> and a drop of light oil, and you’ll be good to go.
>>> On Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 7:28:13 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I currently have the standard cable routing for my rear cantilever 
 brakes. The cable and housing runs up the top low bar onto the seat tube 
 and up and over the seat stay into a cable housing guide off of the seat 
 post binder bolt. See first attached picture.

 My question is would there be less friction of having the cable and 
 housing run in the same route as above, except for having it run through a 
 DIA-COMPE 
 center pull cable pulley roller mounted off the the seat binder bolt with 
 a 
 longer seat binder bolt ?  See second attached picture.

 What are your thoughts and feedback ?

 Would there be any differences ?

 Thank-you,
 Kim Hetzel. 
 [image: Nitto S83 Seat post 2mmm.jpg][image: xjeovlzsunac1.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: FS: Yet Another Garage Sale

[Collin A]

XTR derailleur is sold.  A couple items are sold, pending payment. Updated 
list is below:

   - Vittoria Corsa 700x34 N.Ext, tube-type only. These have about 
   200-or-so miles. Lighter (230g measured), faster, and more durable (so far) 
   than the RH 700x32 extralight equivalents, IMO. Measure out to about 33 mm 
   on 19mm ID rims at 45 psi. *$80*
   - Wolftooth 110 bcd 42t narrow-wide. About 100 commute miles on these. 
   *$40*
   - White Industries 68x113 BB Spindle. *ONLY the spindle*, good deal if 
   you have another length WI BB and want to try a 113 instead. *$30*
   - Deore M591 long cage rear derailleur, silver - Shows some 
   wear-and-tear, but shifts up to a 42t 10 speed cassette. *$30 - pending*
   - Deore M5000 10 speed 11-42 cassette - effectively new, but mounted and 
   ridden around the block. *$30 - pending*
   - Ultegra 10 speed 114 link chain, new except for some block miles. 
   Waxed with silca chain wax if that's your thing. *$40* (I can include 2, 
   10 speed quick links for another $5 to help with resuse during hot-pot 
   waxing).
   - Ultegra 10 speed 114 link chain, about 100 commute miles on this guy. 
   Used T-9 chain lube on this one. *$25*
   - Microshift 2/3x10 thumbie shifters. The front is friction, and the 
   rear was originally a 9-speed, but I replaced the detents on them to make 
   it the old 10 speed road pull. I also have the old 9 speed detents if you 
   want it back to that. Can be used with old 9 speed mountain rear 
   derailleurs to index it over a 10 speed cassette *$50 - pending*
   - IRD 28t 74 BCD 11 speed chainrings. One shows wear form just trying 
   something out on the stand, the other is brand new, never mounted. *$40 
   - pending*
   - Silca Tubeless Setup, 16 oz Part 1 and 32 oz Part 2 (replenisher). 
   New, never used. *$50*
   - Some 9 speed cassettes 1x sram 11-34, 1x shimano hg400 11-36 megarange 
   type, 1xmicroshift 11-36. All steel cogs on these suckers. *$15 each - 
   pending*

Cheers,
Collin

On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 2:16:32 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

Ugh, photos are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/2q2EdEo1398n17rq6

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--'24 Diablo Summit #3 and first big ride on RoadeoRosa

[George Schick]

Since you had to do quite a bit of walking I assume you either had SPD 
pedals on that bike and wore MTB type shoes?  Or maybe just regular running 
shoes and flat pedals?


On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 6:14:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Today I did '24 Diablo Summit #4 on my fourth different bike, my Black 
> Mountain Model Zero.  This time I took a bunch of alternate routes on a few 
> of the trails of Mount Diablo, partially to prepare for the burliest ride 
> of the year, the Marin Mountains 200k in June.  There was quite a lot of 
> snow remaining near the summit from this week's cold snap.  It was cool but 
> not terribly cold.  The trails I decided to explore included a bunch that 
> were far too steep to ride, so I used the 24" gear (slang for walking). 
>  Only 32 miles, but 5600 feet of climbing.  I had made a S.M.A.R.T. goal to 
> summit Diablo 5 times on 5 bikes, and now it looks like I may do it every 
> month of the year.  Speaking of every month, I'm working on an R12, and my 
> April 200k is on Sunday the 14th, which I'll do on the pink Roadeo.  It's 
> looking like the cold wet Calfornia Winter may be completely over.  Snow on 
> Mount Diablo today and the weather app says Walnut Creek will be in the 80s 
> mid-week.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 3:19:59 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> This morning I rode out my front door in El Cerrito to the Summit of 
>> Mount Diablo.  It was my first big ride on my new pink Roadeo, having 
>> tackled the travails of Rene Herse Cantilevers and having just set up a new 
>> pair of tubeless Rene Herse Orondo Grade tires.  It was in the high 40s 
>> when I left, just before sunrise.  As soon as the sun came out it warmed up 
>> quite a bit and was a beautiful breezy Spring Day.  
>>
>> The bike was perfect, the tires were splendid.  Despite the planing 
>> devotees telling me the Roadeo is over-stiff I respectfully disagree.  I 
>> posted my second best time on Strava, which I'm pleased with, all things 
>> considered.  I got after it pretty good.  I think when I posted my best 
>> time I was 10lbs lighter, during my coaching days.  
>>
>> After the descent I headed to Walnut Creek BART, but of course paid a 
>> short social visit at Riv HQ.  Grant was there, and he grabbed my bike and 
>> went and rode it around.  The big surprise was Manny was there.  I got to 
>> meet his delightful young daughter.  Grant reported that my bike rides 
>> great, and approved of my build.  We chatted for a little while, and off I 
>> went.  
>>
>> 70miles, 5300ft.  Multiple compliments received on my pink bike and 
>> matching pink socks.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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