[RBW] Re: Roadini Build is complete

[Brian Witt]

Very nice build!  well thought out...nothing 'stuck on' or out of character 
for its mission...  I am also trying to decide between 57 and 61, and would 
like to know the saddle height on your bike...


On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:

> Nice! Curious what your saddle height is in the photos. I'm maybe about to 
> pull the trigger and am on the fence between the 57 & 61. 
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 4:34:53 PM UTC-6 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all the advice and guidance from folks here on my second 
>> Rivendell build! Turns out there are quite a few folks with a "Country 
>> Bike" that also went for a +1 Roadini. 
>>
>> I've set up my 2017 Sam Hillborne several different ways; first it was 
>> drops+road focused, then it was a Riv 1.0 camping basket bike, then it got 
>> lighter wheels and no basket, then flat bars and knobbies, then it lost 
>> it's F+R racks, fenders have come and gone, and in each phase it's been 
>> "perfect". 
>>
>> I just *wanted* a +1 and the +1 was to be lighter and faster. Months ago 
>> I was looking at 90s racing and sport tourers as cheaper alternatives to a 
>> Roadini, perhaps also lighter, and less well rounded, and more definitively 
>> alternative to my Sam. I test rode some: Specialized Sequoia, Waterford 22 
>> Series, Bridgestone RB1. Nothing felt like the right move. I was being 
>> patient, doing the research, etc, when a Roadini frameset in my size and my 
>> preferred color was posted here, and the owner Lived 2 hours away. Let's go.
>>
>> Using Sam's lighter wheelset, former drop bar cockpit, and a few other 
>> parts bin items, I was able to keep the entire build within my budget. I 
>> bought a lot of NOS and pre-owned components for great prices. Stoked. I'm 
>> happy with how it came out. There's a whole bunch of component 
>> interchangeability with these two bikes, which *may* come in handy some 
>> day. Weather in PNW has been bad for riding, good for wrenching. I still 
>> haven't ridden it yet. 
>>
>> The only thing I was not stoked on was the Ultegra FD inner cage plate 
>> rubbed the middle ring when shifting to big ring. It was already up 
>> high-ish to not hit the chainstay. So now it's even higher out of 
>> necessity. It bothers me a lil bit. Bars and seat height+angle subject to 
>> change after test ride. Right now the drops swing just under the top tube 
>> to avoid dings.
>>
>> [image: LM000884.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000881.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000880.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000883.jpeg]
>> [image: LM000887.jpeg]
>>
>> Build List:
>> 57cm Roadini Sergio Green
>> Nitto Noodle 48cm bars
>> Nitto Tallux 8cm stem
>> Shimano Tiagra levers
>> Blue Lug cotton tape (not as long as newbaums)
>> Tektro R559 brakes
>> Nissen clear housing
>> Velocity Dyad 32H, Deore w/11-32, SP front hub
>> Ultradynamico Cava 700x42
>> Sugino XD2 46/36/24
>> Ultegra 6500 FD + RD
>> Suntour Superbe DT shifters
>> Wellgo Pedals with *gasp *cages
>> Brooks C17 seat
>> King bottle cages
>> A few brass bling bits from Riv + Blue Lug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a fender bird?

[Brian Witt]

yes!!  i want one for my honjo fendered Quickbeam!

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:12 AM Brian Forsee  wrote:

> I'd totally rock a fender bird! Very cool.
>
> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 11:03:44 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Nice..he should get you to do it
>>
>> On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 10:34:07 AM UTC-6 Marty Gierke,
>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>>> Just a thought, but why not? Plenty of raptors around Riv HQ. Maybe if
>>> we all twist Grant's wing he'll come up with something cool.
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> [image: RBW Fender Bird.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-12-18 at 11.31.10 AM.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

[Brian Witt]

Wow! timely question!  i am abandoning a project that stalled for a couple 
years.  I collected parts and then sourced a used frame that just wont 
accommodate the running gear properly.  and changes in my needs/ wants /  
physical abilities  have now  made the bike (even if finished)  not very 
enjoyable... all of which begs the question: do I sell off the stuff or 
stack it all up for some other day... i have a horrible time selling off 
bike parts!!!

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 2:31:07 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> +1 on not trying to turn a sports car into a pickup truck.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like you’re trying to transform the bike into something it 
> isn’t, and I doubt that a new fork, adding canti posts, crimping the stays, 
> etc. will alter that fundamental fact. I’d ditch it and start over with 
> something that meets your needs without requiring such extensive 
> modification. 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Collin A  wrote:
>
> Scott, that's exactly why I am thinking about abandonment now...I've 
> already spent so much time and effort and normally i'd think "what's a bit 
> more" but I've been screwed by that approach in the past (which eventually 
> prompted an involuntary career switch).
>
> Patrick/Jason, I agree that taking a break would be beneficial. But like a 
> FULL break for a couple months (no looking for parts, no brainstorming, 
> nothing). This thing has been bouncing around in my head for the past 5 
> months now, so I think a mental break would help clear the decision making 
> process as it relates to this bike.
>
> Still no decision though,
> Collin
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers 
> wrote:
>
>> Might be worth reading up on Sunk Cost Fallacy:
>>
>> https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:43:43 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so short story long:
>>>
>>> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as 
>>> part of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the 
>>> ground. This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
>>> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
>>> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
>>> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
>>> here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
>>> I began the modifications planned, which included:
>>>
>>>- (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts 
>>>(cause why not?) and canti posts
>>>- (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>>>- (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
>>>rear for even more clearance
>>>- (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original 
>>>wheels are now sold
>>>- (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
>>>which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the 
>>> Appaloosa
>>>- (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers 
>>>(see above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>>>- (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but 
>>>no freewheel yet.
>>>
>>> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I 
>>> am more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket 
>>> combo and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when 
>>> it comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a 
>>> more expensive bike than I'd like.
>>>
>>> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that 
>>> unique of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, 
>>> etc.) and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that 
>>> aspect. The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a 
>>> unique feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this 
>>> effort on it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in 
 understanding how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally 
 pretty impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are 
 still new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - 
 there is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's 
 an exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once 
 complete, I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, 

[RBW] head badges

[Brian Witt]

Hi allin my stable of bikes I have a Bob Jackson touring.  As you may 
have heard, they are closing up shop. I managed to buy  a  cast  head badge 
for my bike to replace the decal, and i noticed the head badge on my 
Rivendell Quickbeam is attached with some sort of adhesive (i  think...)... 
The Bob Jackson  badge came with two very small screws does anybody 
have an idea about what sort of adhesive The guys at Rivendell use?  I 
could drill and tap the head tube but i am not confident enough to try! 

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[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

[Brian Witt]

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:52:28 PM UTC-5, Pancake wrote:
>
> Leah's discussion about long wheel base led to a lot of interesting 
> discussions about how people found Rivendell. I'd like to know:
>
>- How you first found out about Rivendell?
>- What caused you to actually get your first Rivendell frame or 
>component (or something Riv inspired) ... and what was that first buy?
>- And could you add a photo of that first?
>
> Personally, I was overweight and looking to make my biking more 
> comfortable back in 2004 in Berkeley. Searching online led me to look at 
> Brooks saddles and sweptback handlebars and ultimately to Rivendell to buy 
> some steel Albatross bars ... which I still use today! On a student budget, 
> I attached them to a Jamis Coda Sport (steel frame) with beefed up wheels 
> from The Missing Link bike co-op. Then about 2 years ago my friend Ronnie 
> gave me a Cheviot frame to build up as a distraction while waiting to 
> adopt. The moment I finished building the bike, as I was attaching the 
> pedals my wife pulled into the garage, jumped out of the car and with tears 
> and a huge smile and told me to get plane tickets to Kansas because our 
> daughter was about to be born! Now our daughter is almost 2 years old and I 
> have the Cheviot, a Sam Hillborne, and the same friend is lending me a 
> Rosco Baby frame until that we built a couple weeks ago for front kid seat 
> rides. 
>
> When Grant met my daughter, he noticed the "Baby Muggle On Board" sticker 
> on our car window ... he was rightfully concerned that we didn't know if 
> she was a muggle or not!
>
> Ride on,
> Abe
>
> Some pics of my other Rivendell bikes (and the Rosco Baby with those 
> original Albatross bars) here - https://imgur.com/a/wWgiDmh
>
> [image: IMG_4021.jpg]
>
>
>
>

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