[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:
I'm just thankful that we still have options! I'm resigned to the fact that the industry will make choices I don't agree with. When you can, vote by buying threaded forks, friction shifters, 7sp freewheels and steel. Wait... I just remembered I'm talking with the Riv Owners Bunch. Ha! That being said, to me the biggest benefit to quill stem set-ups these days is aesthetics. When building bikes for the floor, we usually add an inch or two of spacers to the rise that Surly (pretty much the only place this applies) provides. No set formula. This gives you enough adjustment to cover probably 95% of customers. Education on how the stem works is part of the sales process. Seeing overly tall steerer tubes isn't what scares people out of our quirky shop ;-) BykMor On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:38:07 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor model road bikes when assembling? Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront DerailleurIRD Rear Derailleur UltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cm TapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front Hub SONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette.--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS GreenSeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp EdeluxDecalleur BagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Attributes of the Ram vs the *San Marcos* of course. Sorry for any confusion ;-) On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:20:23 PM UTC-6, BykMor wrote: Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront Derailleur IRD Rear DerailleurUltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette.--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS GreenSeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp Edelux DecalleurBagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Oh you tricky tricky people. More thinking to do. Beautiful bike. Thank you for letting me know. I might have to message you off list to get some insight. BykMor On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:04:06 PM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: To throw a wrench into your plans I converted my 60 Ram to 650b: http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351739256/in/set-72157623199721925 Toshi did, too ;) -L On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:20:23 PM UTC-4, BykMor wrote: Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront Derailleur IRD Rear DerailleurUltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette .--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS GreenSeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp EdeluxDecalleurBagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos
This is Steve. Owner of the Rambouillet referenced below. Some pictures are available here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 Corrections: the bottom bracket is NOT an SKF :-( Outboard bearings by Sugino. Have a nice day. BykMor On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:43:10 PM UTC-6, Saturday Mark wrote: Sean, Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for 2400 Frameset Riv Ramouillet Brake Levers SRAM Shifters Silver DT Crank Sugino compact2 Bottom Bracket SKF Brakes Pauls Center Front Derailleur IRD Rear Derailleur Ultegra Cassette Shimano HG80 Chain KMC 9x Stem Nitto Handlebars Nitto Noodle Tape green Headset Ultegra Wheels: .--.Front Hub SON .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood .--.Spokes .--.Rims, 36H Synergy Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green Seatpost Nitto Crystal Tires Schwalbe Durano Pedals Tubes Front Rack Nitto Marks Cage Lamp Edeluxe Decalleur Bag Sackville sm On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions. Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay - the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing. The consensus seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume, on a AHH). Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go after the 58 cm frame now on ebay. How would being on a frame that is a bit too small affect the way that I feel on the bike. Likewise, what improvement in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)? Sean On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith keith...@gmail.com wrote: No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it seems others have already confirmed this: 60 cm seems just right for you. I am between 6'-1 and 6'-2, but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, with a long torso. The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically touches flesh when flat footed but no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding I'd ever do on this type of bike. And you might remember from the original Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top tubes, specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable sizes. On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding bike I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for anything. I had some big bags on mine, before I found my all rounder, and used it more heavily loaded than it was intended for too, with no complaints. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/n6QnZKTBavA/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wisconsin Shops
I've not been there, but if you're near by, check out Coast In Bikes at 706 S 5th St, Milwaukee ( http://www.coastinbikes.com/ ). The owners are nice young folk. I don't know what Riv'ish stuff they might have in stock, but they're definitely not a techy race shop. And I think the treatment is a reason to visit Yellow Jersey. It's part of the experience. I've been told a few stories that have happened at that shop over the years and I'd kind of like to have one of my own ;-) Actually, it's probably not nearly as likely to happen these days. Have a great visit. BykMor On Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:55:10 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: My wife and I will be spending a few days in Wisconsin next month, mostly in Milwaukee and Sheboygan, and I wonder if anyone has recommendations for interesting, Riv-ish bike shops that I could visit. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Barefoot Friendly Pedals
Again, no first hand knowledge here, but I would second the suggestion of the Ergon pedal: http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/pc2 I'd also recommend a good chainguard :-o Happy Trails, BykMor On Friday, April 19, 2013 8:27:37 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Question upfront: how barefoot friendly are the pedals you ride? I'd love input on all pedals, but am specifically wondering about both the VP thin Gripster and MKS Grip King Rivendell offers. Relavant détails: -- I ride barefoot or in thin leather moccasins (when cold requires) because of the increased proprioception (feedback from the feet that lets the body know where it is in space) I require due to brain stem damage and resultant vertigo. -- I am possibly acquiring a second bike (fixie) and thus in need of a second pair of barefoot friendly pedals. -- I have and love my oak woodie Bullseye Pedals on my Hunga. These are perhaps the ideal barefoot pedal. -- I'm doubtful about the clip less platform pedal set up from Bike Tinker because of the inherent, albeit slight, rotational play inherent to clipless. -- I live and run mountain trails barefoot or moccasined, so my feet are well acclimated to rough/uneven surfaces; however, my experience with pedals tells me that on rides longer than 2-3 hours, the foot gets tender from the same pressure points. -- The pedal to beat (aside from the oak woodies) is the MKS Touring pedal with rubber blocks. I have a pair with the outer rings filed down a bit. -- I ride mostly midfoot on the pedal. -- One thought on possibly worth trying is the Gripster pedals with a thin Vibram soling (which I have) somehow screwed into the cleat treads with broad flathead screws. Any suggestions here greatly appreciated. Thanks for your input! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Centerpulls on a Ram.
Mike- yes, the bolt on Racer. I hope that a future bike will end up with some nice, sleek braze-ons, but the bolt-on still ends up looking pretty nice. I've been very pleased with the performance of these brakes. I had not used centerpulls before and my very first impression was that they were mushy compared to the side-pulls on other road bikes, but I quickly realized it was modulation. I can feel in my hands that more squeeze equals more braking power. I've been running 28c Schwalbe Durano tires with Honjo (bent in an accident) and now VO fenders. The clearances are good. Proud daddy pics here: https://picasaweb.google.com/111496061371485598754/RacingRivRam?authuser=0feat=directlink Cheers, BykMor On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:07:01 AM UTC-6, mike goldman wrote: bykmor, do you use the bolt-on Racer model? mike goldman warwick,r.i. *OVERSTOCK ipads: $30.93* Get 32GB Apple iPad for as low as $30.93. Limit 1.Day. Grab yours Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/50b4f311c2fb1731146ddst04duc zbiddy.comhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/50b4f311c2fb1731146ddst04duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rppLcwMKCs4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Centerpulls on a Ram.
Howdy Mike, I use Paul's brakes on my 60cm Rambouillet and the Surly 'paperclip' cable hanger. I'm not sure if Soma makes a similar hanger. Love the brakes. The Surly hanger, with it's chrome color looks dashing. Good choices all around. Cheers, BykMor On Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:48:01 AM UTC-6, mike goldman wrote: i would like to hear from folks who switched from sidepulls to centerpulls on their Ram. what rear cable stop did you use. the Soma 'paperclip' looks appealing for larger frames, mine is a 58cm mike goldman warwick,r.i. *Woman is 53 But Looks 25* Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/50b23d773f9ae3d772e5ast01duc ConsumerLifestyleMag.comhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/50b23d773f9ae3d772e5ast01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DfI6s4ot1o4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Studded Tires for 650b wheels?
I wholeheartedly third what Patrick in VT and Zack just said. I put studded tires on my cyclomuter right before the first freeze, take them off right after the last and FORGET about them in between. The key is to forget about them and not let people shame you in to thinking you're doing something silly. (This is assuming you live someplace you would consider using them.) It'd be like wondering why you rode to work in the morning with a light on your bike even though you 'expected' to ride home while it was still light. Get decent tires with carbide tipped studs. Don't think of them as resistance training, but just know that you'll be so strong come spring. Cheers, BykMor On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:26:10 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: Been reading about studded tires. Sounds like you must swap out wheels/tires for dry days, or have a second bike with studded tires on them only for snow/ice days. Reads like studs don't do well on dry pavement. But I bet they are really great on ice. probably life savers. Do they do the job well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/P4yENfu_Fd4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: iPhone Geeks
Just to give some feedback on Brian's and add some more Riv'ish support. I used the BioLogic system with my iPhone 4 and Schmidt hub and headlight during a through the night race on my Riv Rambouillet. It may not be the slickest self-contained system, but I like the versatility. I spliced the wire coming off the hub to run both the light and the charger. The charger wire runs through the fancy circuitry module about the size of a thumb (zip tied to a fork leg) and plugs in to a detachable battery unit slightly smaller than a deck of cards (strapped nicely to my head tube). You have the option of just charging the battery or plugging a charging cable in to the 'out port' on the battery and basically running the current straight to your unit. UNFORTUNATELY, if your unit happens to be an iPhone, you need an Apple-dapter for the USB side of your normal charging cable. Mine was finicky and lost contact some time during the night. My phone battery drained and the GPS stopped :-( It rained a majority of the time and the BioLogic iPhone case worked fine. The rain didn't have anything to do with the finicky adapter contact. NOTE: I have the separate battery and not the ReeCharge iPhone case. The case/battery unit may have solved the adapter issue. I'll be using it again this year but probably just run the charge in to my wife's Garmin unit. I'll definitely be riding the Racing Riv Ram! Cheers, BykMor On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:27:53 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: For those of you who want to ride with an iPhone GPSish app beyond the 4-hour limit (rando anyone?), I would recommend checking out the BioLogic ReeCharge units ( http://www.thinkbiologic.com/products/reecharge-case-iphone). The case, mount, and dynamo kit are all required, but come in cheaper than some of the other solutions out there. I've been using one now on two bikes for a month or two, and have had no problems with the brackets coming loose. I've jumped curbs and hit lots of big bumps, including some that have tossed Garmin units from my bars in the past. The charger seems to work well, and the case has pretty good visibility/usability. The case also has a built in battery that stores the charge, and charges the phone when you need it. I know this is a bit of a stretch on this forum, but riv content is that the mounts are on an AHH and a Hunqapillar. Here's some recent photos showing wiring using different methods. Not the prettiest, but I'm pragmatic :) Hunqa: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjBGj4NL Hilsen: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjBGE7Hd Both are set up to work with lights, as well. I haven't been in any rain yet, so I can't vouch for waterproof-ness, but I'm sure that won't last much longer here in Seattle. The case has rubber gaskets on all openings, so my hopes are high. Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eO_D3XY7NI8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Big Apple vs. Supreme
I have ridden both. The website claims decent protection for the Big Apple, but I ended up with a few flats. The Supremes have been very kind to me with no flats and a VERY nice ride. Of course, I'm riding a Big Dummy so YMMV. The Supremes are quite a bit more expensive. Schwalbe isn't trying to rip you off. They are more technological. You'll enjoy your ride, either way ;-) BykMor On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 6:29:38 AM UTC-6, Marty wrote: Need a new set of tires for the Bombadil, and considering Big Apples or Supremes. I noticed Riv has both in 700 x 50, and wondered if anyone here has either/or. Opinions aside from cost? Thanks! Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AAqYnW0w0LkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Newbie Qs
Smitty, Lots of good insight here. I always try to encourage people to have their drop bars set up such that they can use all of the positions. It saddens me to hear people say they never use the drops, or tops, or... those variable positions are the advantage of drop bars. 48cm is a W I D E Noodle (as Patrick mentioned). Is that the correct size for you? That can dramatically affect the feel while in the drops. Stem height is also an important variable (as mentioned by Michael). Keep in mind that as you raise the stem, you're bringing the bars closer. Were you riding with the 9cm stem in a high position. That might move your T(op)-H(ood)-D(drop) positions to casual-great-aggressive. Hopefully you can find the perfect setup. BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NbJrwSqmS4AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A sob story and a WTB plea
Hello Jay, Made it solo! Longest ride of my life. I've liked my Rivendell for some time, but I can now honestly, and after thorough testing, report that the Rambouillet position and a well broken Brooks saddle are a VERY comfortable way to ride a bicycle. Only two people asked my how old my bike was ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/H4TWUzJ_gT4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] A sob story and a WTB plea
Hello friends, I just completed a wonderful, if not quite pleasant, ride on my racing Rivendell Rambouillet. 420 miles from Salt Lake City to St George, UT in 28 hours and 1 minute ( http://salttosaint.com/ ). We didn't get many pictures, but here I am ( https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/KARNLpmQ24hBc7khJ3Jy7Q?feat=directlink ) at the start about to attach a rain jacket, which would get MUCH use, on to the small Sackville TrunkSack. It can be seen hiding behind my helmet there. The trunk matches perfectly with the green Rambouillet, Brooks saddle, bar tape... or I should say, matched. After all of the aforementioned items carried me, in fine fashion, all the way to southern Utah, someone decided to steal my TrunkSack right off of my bike. Rivendell doesn't have the green sack any more, so I am hoping one of you fine folks might have one in your basement that is not being used and would be willing to part with it. I don't want it if it's being put to good service. If you can help please contact me. Thank you. Long live long rides, BykMor aka Steve Wasmund -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qZaO8TTT4RoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Supernova E3 Triple with Tail light
I don't think it's unsellable. If I hadn't just bought mine, I'd be very interested. The price is great. Check out Supernova's website. Current 24 Hour World Champions used this light! http://www.supernova-lights.com/en/products/e3_triple2.html Again, your Hunqapillar needs one!!! (This commenter has no affiliation with the seller :-) Cheers, BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Supernova E3 Triple with Tail light
BB, Traffic blinding is NOT just a matter of positioning the light. Asymmetric beam patterns, such as the EDelux, have a beam pattern that aims light at the bottom half of the... imagine that your headlight is the pointy end of an ice cream cone and light project out in 360 degrees from that point... cone. Yes, you could just aim that cone down, but you'd have to aim it pretty 'straight down' not to be sending light up above the horizon. Not the most efficient. Asymmetric beam patterns control the light and aim all of the emitted light at the road in front of you. And, yes, cars in front of you still see a very bright light, they just don't have that very bright light shining right in their eyes. Automobile headlights work in this way. Similar to the difference between High beams and Low beams. The E3 Triple is not meant for the road. The EDelux is. In regard to your second question. The E3 I bought came with a couple brass connectors that would act nicely as a quick connect. Of course, you could use basically any connector from an electronics store. The trick is to figure out what you would like to quickly disconnect and what you would like to leave behind. The E3 I have connects via a quick-release mount to the handlebar. I'd like to have a connector close to the light, but that would require cutting the wire that is hardwired to the light pretty short. A scary proposition. Cheers, BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Supernova E3 Triple with Tail light
Just to let potential buyers know... I just purchased an E3 Triple and used it while racing at the 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo mountain bike race in Tucson, AZ last weekend. One of my laps *only *used the handlebar mounted E3, and I survived. An additional helmet mounted light is recommended for the corners and was used on subsequent laps. It is a bright light with a broad swath of usable light, but it is NOT the light you want for road randonneuring or cyclomuting. It would be REALLY COOL on a Hunqapillar! An EDelux would work, as well, but this one will show you the branches about to whap you in the face and light up the owl eyes in the tree up there. FYI- The E3 Triple uses a symmetric beam, meaning there is a cone of light and plenty of light is sent above the horizon. This is useful out on a dirt trail, but not good in two-way traffic. Happy Trails, BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MUSA Rain Pants First Impression
Hello MUSA Rain Pants wearers, I've been wearing my MRPs (?) as my daily winter wear here in SLC, UT for about 3 months now. I have a question, and maybe a little report. I have been wearing these almost every day through the winter with shorts underneath. Even on days when I don't expect precipitation. They are warm (wind resistant) and zipper vents all the way up the leg are the ONLY way to control temp. I try to be careful with them, but with any 'daily use' item, they get dirty. I have washed them twice now, in a cold, gentle cycle with powder detergent. Do any fabric experts out there have any ideas for caring or preserving this particular fabric? I'm concerned that I'm compromising their 'water repellency'. Yesterday I noticed the fabric soaking up some water down by my ankles. The orange is great. I have had several people tell me how noticeable they were from their car. I like being seen. I almost wish I didn't 'want' to wear these expensive pants every day, but I think they are the ideal winter cyclomuting pants. FIT: I am 6' with ~ 32 waist and ordered a Medium. They fit like a baggy cycling tight. I'm sure I could wear a large, but the mediums work well for me. More people please order these and maybe the price will come down :-) pic of MRPs in their native environmenthttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5OPKStYmeqL65-pCybwdd7u5biZjyjia6B15az0iaZo?feat=directlink Cheers, BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] My Racing Riv Ram... finally complete
When the sun comes out and the temp is above 19° again, I'll take some better pics, but I think I finished fiddling with my Rambouillet last night. Rode it home and everything seemed pretty sound (lights worked and fenders didn't rattle. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zmAuEz3xgzlpe_6qksMSMg?feat=directlink Honjo fenders, Mark's Rack, Sackville trunk, Schmidt front hub, Phil rear, EDelux headlight, BM wired taillight, switched to a 12cm Nitto stem, which I like much more, Pauls brakes, Brooks B17, Arundel SS cages. Aren't you happy you now know everything about my bike. Fun fun fun. BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Racing Riv Ram... finally complete
OK, not everything :-) 60cm and Grand Bois Cerf 28mm tires (on Velocity Synergy rims). On Nov 27, 5:57 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Nice build, Aren't you happy you now know everything about my bike What size fenders and which tires? Rob -http://oceanaircycles.com/ On Nov 27, 4:49 pm, BykMor byk...@gmail.com wrote: When the sun comes out and the temp is above 19° again, I'll take some better pics, but I think I finished fiddling with my Rambouillet last night. Rode it home and everything seemed pretty sound (lights worked and fenders didn't rattle. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zmAuEz3xgzlpe_6qksMSMg?feat=dire... Honjo fenders, Mark's Rack, Sackville trunk, Schmidt front hub, Phil rear, EDelux headlight, BM wired taillight, switched to a 12cm Nitto stem, which I like much more, Pauls brakes, Brooks B17, Arundel SS cages. Aren't you happy you now know everything about my bike. Fun fun fun. BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Racing Riv Ram... finally complete
Absolutely no room for anything bigger than a 28 under that fender... especially with the taillight wire running inside there. But this IS a racing bike. Nice 28s should do the job. This might mean that need a Bombadil :-) On Nov 27, 8:29 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: I think all of us Ram owners are wishing we could at least put Jack Browns AND fenders on our bikes. But that's what Homer is for. I'm used to deflating my tires to get the JBs into my sidepulls. A small compromise for the wonderful ride of the Rambouillet. On 11/27/2010 6:53 PM, Michael_S wrote: nice bike... I have a green Ram also just wish I could fit some 35's up front.(no fenders) ~Mike~ On Nov 27, 5:01 pm, BykMorbyk...@gmail.com wrote: OK, not everything :-) 60cm and Grand Bois Cerf 28mm tires (on Velocity Synergy rims). On Nov 27, 5:57 pm, rperksperks@gmail.com wrote: Nice build, Aren't you happy you now know everything about my bike What size fenders and which tires? Rob -http://oceanaircycles.com/ On Nov 27, 4:49 pm, BykMorbyk...@gmail.com wrote: When the sun comes out and the temp is above 19 again, I'll take some better pics, but I think I finished fiddling with my Rambouillet last night. Rode it home and everything seemed pretty sound (lights worked and fenders didn't rattle. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zmAuEz3xgzlpe_6qksMSMg?feat=dire... Honjo fenders, Mark's Rack, Sackville trunk, Schmidt front hub, Phil rear, EDelux headlight, BM wired taillight, switched to a 12cm Nitto stem, which I like much more, Pauls brakes, Brooks B17, Arundel SS cages. Aren't you happy you now know everything about my bike. Fun fun fun. BykMor- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any Tandems?
Manny asked a bicycle related question of wise Rivendell owners. That doesn't seem too offensive. I'll reply off-line, however. BykMor On Nov 9, 11:26 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I leave it to the wisdom of the group. My girlfriend and I just recently test rode a tandem. We had a great time and found that riding a tandem works for both of our different riding styles. Wondering if any had any suggestions on tandem bikes we could take a look at? Thanks -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: my Rambouillet- some new pics
Thanks for the comments, all. I like seeing the other builds. Nice, Leslie, I need to get me a Yehuda Moon pin. Not sure of the exact timing of this frame. Possibly towards the end of the 2006-2008 range. We also haven't figured out what, exactly, is up with that Sugino crankset. It's giving me a bit of issue with the left arm loosening. I'm looking for the perfect (all silver) cranks to throw on there. Likely with a square taper BB. Any suggestions? Happy trails all, BykMor On Sep 27, 8:55 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I hadn't noticed that the lugs had changed; mine has the pointy-lugs like the Hilsen instead of the swoopy Atlantis-like ones. (I had noticed the mid-stay mounts, etc., but haven't used them yet... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/set-72157623... ). ) On Sep 27, 12:36 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: There was a very special Hilsen-like run of Rams at the end. They had the lugs just like the Hilsen and the fork crown too. (It seems that Atlantises have these features now too.) More importantly, that last set of Rams also had mounts on the fork and seatstays for mini-racks. Pretty sweet bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] my Rambouillet- some new pics
My green Rambouillet is finally (almost) complete and it was a nice day out so I took a few pictures. Hopefully the link to my Picasa site will suffice. http://picasaweb.google.com/bykmor/RacingRivRam910?feat=directlink Fairly traditional build, but perked it up with some Paul's centerpull brakes, Honjo fenders and a Schmidt/Phil wheel combo by Peter White. The rear light is not wired quite yet, hence the battery light that I needed for the Salt to Saint Relay (Salt Lake City, UT to Saint George, UT) I did last weekend. The bike performed marvelously and our team did the 401 miles in just over 20 hours. A leather mud flap will bring the front fender reach down a bit, but I wanted a little more fender forward, as well as the ability to load the bike on a fork mount rack, which a low front fender sometimes precludes. Cheers, BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Salt Lake City Bicycle Commuter Hub
Turns out to be somewhat Riv specific, as I will be riding my purty green Racing Riv Ram at the grand opening ride this Saturday. I'll try to take some pics. Hope to see you there, Darin. pic from the Salt to Saint relay in Utah last weekend: http://picasaweb.google.com/bykmor/SaturdayCycles#5518991367388317442 BykMor from Saturday Cycles On Sep 23, 5:37 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I know this isn't Riv specific but a cool story about the new bike commuter hub in downtown Salt Lake City. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50342926-76/bike-center-canyon-says... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I don't know. I'll tell you in 20,000 miles when mine wears out ;-) BykMor On Jul 18, 11:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on a Schmidt as the preferred hub upgrade. philip 97128 On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, All Rounder 2000 s_schermerh...@yahoo.com wrote: I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs (Cassette). I agree with all I've seen here. For me, the most practical difference has been the service after the sale. On two occasions I've had slight problems with PW gear and a quick phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, one time for free. Specifically, the issues were: *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the back of the car. Grit got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW replaced the BB. (for free!) *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a very small fee. UPGRADE IDEA for you: For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the Schmidt Dynohub for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is like new. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: healdsburg century, this weekend
I wish. That really is a beautiful ride. I organized a little Wine Powered Tour with some friends last summer and we rode that route one of the days. Idyllic. Have a great ride! bykmor On Jul 15, 10:07 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: are any of you riv-owners doing the healdsburg century this weekend? i will be on my mary's blue rodeo. hope to see a few rivs. don c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: a racing Riv Ram
I managed to get a chain on and completed the Rockwell Relay. Our team did fine. 3rd out of 21 starters. I had to borrow a Schmidt wheel from my commuter and a regular old rear wheel I had lying around. It's definitely not a racing bike, but held it's own speeding across southern Utah with all those carbon fiber bikes. Here are a couple of more pics: final setup before the race: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/nfazk_t4bwH7ts4Xj89SNw?feat=directlink leading a carbon fiber 'fastbike' through the night: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockwellrelay/4704452410/in/set-72157624283350574/ We got lots of comments... even one How old is that bike? Next stop is the Salt to Saint relay from Salt Lake City, UT to St George, UT in September. Cheers, BykMor On Jun 9, 1:06 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Nice Bike. I'm in the process of reconfiguring my 2003 Ram into more of a go fast bike and to distinguish it more from my commuter. I'm not ready to give up my Honjos or my mini front rack but have put the White VBC double crank and a set of 32 spoke White/Open Pro wheels. My son gave me a pair of nice, but small for me (23mm) Continental tires. I have gotten a nice light American Classic seat posts but haven't seen a light weight saddle that wants to make me give up my selle anatomica saddle. Hope to get the new Paul's brakes when the cc clears! Send us a ride report and how you think this bike races, vs your Seven. Michael On Jun 9, 11:00 am,BykMorbyk...@gmail.com wrote: Who says Riv's aren't racing bikes (well, none of US do, but...) Here's a pic of my nearly completed, and new to me Rambouillet that I'm setting up to do the Rockwell Relay race from Moab, UT to St George, UT this weekend. It's a 4-person, 12-leg relay race with each leg averaging 40-some miles. I still love my Seven go fast racing bike, so it was a bit of a decision to go with the Riv, but I'm wanting to start practicing for some solo brevet rides. Here is the one pic I've taken so far. Still awaiting my SON front wheel / Phil rear wheel. Honjo fenders are also in the plans. Will post more soon, and hopefully update on how the race goes. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DEnhRLU0GvU6e_iOwGF5Nw?feat=dire... Cheers, BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] a racing Riv Ram
Who says Riv's aren't racing bikes (well, none of US do, but...) Here's a pic of my nearly completed, and new to me Rambouillet that I'm setting up to do the Rockwell Relay race from Moab, UT to St George, UT this weekend. It's a 4-person, 12-leg relay race with each leg averaging 40-some miles. I still love my Seven go fast racing bike, so it was a bit of a decision to go with the Riv, but I'm wanting to start practicing for some solo brevet rides. Here is the one pic I've taken so far. Still awaiting my SON front wheel / Phil rear wheel. Honjo fenders are also in the plans. Will post more soon, and hopefully update on how the race goes. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DEnhRLU0GvU6e_iOwGF5Nw?feat=directlink Cheers, BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rom - 59cm for sale on Ebay
Just noticed this during an unrelated search. No relation. http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Romulus-59cm-Road-Bike-/300421100090?cmd=ViewItempt=Road_Bikeshash=item45f27e323a#ht_500wt_1182 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Tips...Best Tires for considerable snow?
Hello Sean, I just wanted to add my personal experience with 2 studded tires. I'm on my 3rd winter with some Nokian Hakkapeliitta's (W106) and the studs still have good bite. I leave them on my daily cyclomuter from the beginning to the end of winter. This winter I tried an Innova studded 26 in the rear (due to a wheel size change) and the studs are already worn down and useless (in use for about 3 months now). I recommend sticking with a brand that uses a hardened carbide stud. I ride in Salt Lake City through the winter and recommend studs. As mentioned above, conditions are always different and the best I hope for to not to lose control every time I hit the inevitable ice patch. 4 inches of fresh Utah powder over a clean path is a blast to ride through... no matter what the tire. Winter is not a time not to ride your bike. Cheers, BykMor On Jan 30, 10:59 am, fenderbender pedal_kr...@yahoo.se wrote: Lot of good info here! Were I live the temp change so frequently that I usually ride on frozen and badly plowed bike path and roads in the morning and in snow slush back. Like mentioned studded tires are a must here so another vote for the Nokian MountGround. They are heavy and with the extra resistance far from swift. But the studs sit in a four row configuration, cheaper tires have only two, so they bite in corners making them great for MTB-ing too! Studs sit slightly off to the side so inflated to 3,5bar dry roads don't wear them down too fast (mine are 3-years and still have great bite!). The more severe conditions are the less air I use, going as low as 1,85bar. For road bikes I think the new Marathon Winter are a great tire. Four rows of studs, tighter thread and a lower weight. From what I heard they use the same make of studs as Nokian. Tried a set of studded IRC's in the 90's but they were crap as the studs disappeared into the rubber! On 30 Jan, 18:09, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 30, 11:01 am, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote: I was never a mountain biker, so most of my attempts to ride in the snow usually end up either with me staring up at the sky from a cold an painful landing on the street, or teetering on the verge of collapse at less than 5 mph. What do you folks do? What tires at what pressure? IMO, there is no winter tire that excels in all conditions. I find the Nokian Mount Ground tires to be generally very good winter tires for most winter conditions that I cycle in. They're sized 559x45mm and I run them between 35-45psi, depending on conditions. They perform very well when temps are very low (15F to -25F), with up to a 4 snow layer, dodging (and hitting) snow cookies, the occasional sidewalk detour (when conditions warrant), and on light snow covered ice. In a few other conditions, they're overkill: so smaller tread blocks, a narrower profile, and less studs would perform better. When snow is sticky, thickly rutted, and has a slimy base, (temps from 20F to 35F on an unplowed, paved surface) I prefer a slightly narrower tire at a higher pressure and less and/or negative tread. The wider tires I've used (including the Mount and Grounds) tend to half float, half sink in that stuff and your wheels constantly drift. Additionally, the snow packs up into the tread, making pedaling much more difficult, and traction minimal. These tires excel at most other conditions though, and so, I'll continue to use them on my commuter. I've also had the following experiences riding these tires in the winter: Panaracer Pasela 622x37mm and found them to be a great winter tire for when roads are better maintained, but no studs meant cornering was tricky and sometimes dangerous. Not so great getting up steep, icy roads. Continental Town Country 559x57mm and really liked that they didn't pack full of snow and provided pretty good traction, but again, were unstudded and found they floated a bit too much in the loose stuff. Nokian A10 584x36mm and find them excellent tires on most winter rides. They're better than the Mount Grounds when roads have been plowed, they're worse when AOT is on strike. Regarding winter bicycle riding, the best advice I can give if you're having problems getting going is to: keep pedaling. Momentum will get you through most everything, except corners. John McMurry Burlington, VT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
