[RBW] Re: Atlas tubeless?

[David Baldi]

another anecdotal take, for what it's worth: 
I have run a pair Dyads tubeless for about 3 years with no problems at low 
pressure (oracle ridge, ~17-25 psi). But it did take more work and patience 
to set up. As Patrick has already noted, in the absence of a good shoulder 
you can build up the center of the well with Gorilla tape. I prefer 
starting with two layers of tubeless tape to get the seal, and then 
gradually building up the center with a narrower strip of Gorilla tape 
until, with the tire mounted, the bead is super tight even in the well. 
Which also means it sucks getting it over the rim in the first place, and 
that you'll probably need to do it a few times until you nail it. By using 
a thinner width for the gorilla tape, you create, if not a shoulder, at 
least something of a lip to keep the beat from going back to center in the 
case of a flat. Though IME the orange seal connection the forms at the bead 
has always been enough to keep it in place. 
What I decided for myself was: when it is time to rebuild or upgrade the 
wheel, I'll go tubeless compatible for peace of mind, less trouble, and 
easier field service. Until then, I'll stick with the Dyads. I should also 
mention that, once I set up a pair of Oracle Ridge tires tubeless, 
replacing them with new tires (Hatcher Pass) was easy—I didn't have to redo 
that whole process.

-david


On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:56:53 AM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:

> My Big Bens are nearing end of life and I’m curious about setting up my 
> Hunq tubeless. But I have Atlas rims, which Velocity says is a no-go. 
> However if you scroll through the comments on this article, John Watson 
> from the Radavist says they set up nicely:
>
> https://theradavist.com/rivendell-hunqapillar-review/
>
> So why would I want to do this? Mostly to get experience working with 
> tubeless setups. My full-squish MTB and gravel/bikepacking rig are 
> tubeless, and if/when I encounter issues with either of them (esp. if I’m 
> in a remote locale) I’d like to have some hands-on knowledge with 
> troubleshooting tubeless systems. I already have an air compressor, so 
> basically for the cost of some tape and sealant I’d be good to go.
>
> Anybody have experience with making non-tubeless rims play nicely 
> tubeless? Tips or tricks to share? Or is it just a bad idea, and should I 
> resign myself to getting some new wheels built with Cliffhangers? I’d hate 
> to have the Hunq out of commission that long, but if I timed it to coincide 
> with out-of-town travel it probably wouldn’t be that big a deal.
>
> One last question — Cliffhangers are wider than Atlases by about 4.6 mm. 
> How would that affect fender clearance? My intuition is that wider rims 
> should result in a flatter tire arc, and potentially make it possible to go 
> slightly wider if I wanted to. I have 50s now, and would like to be able to 
> move up to 55s or even 60s.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Oracle Ridge or Antelope Hill

[David Baldi]

Still looking for very used oracle ridge? I have a pair that I am about to 
replace. Standard casing, cracking around the center knobs, and some pretty 
tired sidewalls. On the other hand, there is tons of tread left, I have 
never had a flat or any problem with them whatsoever. I bet there is still 
quite a bit of life in them. 

David


On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 9:45:58 AM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

> This warm streak in the midwest has me fantasizing about taking off my 
> studded winter tires and cutting loose.
>
> I'm looking to try something other than my current 2.1 Thunderburt's, 
> which are a little sketchy-tight under my fenders.
>
> If anyone has a used set of Oracle Ridge or Antelope Hill tires (ideally 
> ELs in tanwall) let me know. I'm up for something very used, if that's what 
> you have. I'd like to play around with options for a bit before deciding on 
> something.
>
> I'd also try Cazadero 50s if anyone has those around.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam
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[RBW] Re: Sam and 48 mm Oracle Ridge

[David Baldi]

Hey all,

Black and cream is mine. I can't report on how these tires fit on a 
slightly wider rim, but will say that the clearance is totally fine on 
Dyads, with a few mm of clearance everywhere. Tightest points are fork 
crown and chainstays. Still running this setup about a year later. 

David

On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 9:24:24 PM UTC-4 Chris L wrote:

> Found this photo of a Sam with Oracle Ridge tires on Dyads.  
>
> [image: 62701554961__F637E6CE-70EC-4133-AB11-DC94179CFB19.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 8:20:29 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:
>
>> [image: 40vu1zeuyzj51.jpg]
>>
>> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 8:20:02 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:
>>
>>> I have three photos of a Sam with Oracle Ridge tires that I saved from 
>>> one of the several Riv groups I follow.  Only one might be of any help but 
>>> it might help track down the owner on one of the Facebook groups.  
>>>
>>> [image: xq57thfuyzj51.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 83pxyyeuyzj51.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger, Son 28 wheelset

[David Baldi]

Sold, thanks!

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 1:01:32 PM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:

> Giving this a bump-update.
> Thanks to those who expressed interest and made offers earlier this 
> summer. Going to bump this to $700 + ship for wheels only. Happy to meet 
> nor'easters for pickup too, ofc. 
>
> David
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 10:28:06 AM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:
>
>> Open to offers as well if you think that is not a reasonable ask. <3
>>
>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 12:29:46 PM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I have a pair of polished, 36 hole Cliffhangers with ~100 miles on them. 
>>> Laced to Son 28 dynamo in the front and Velo Orange Grand Cru in the rear, 
>>> and mounted tubeless with Rene Herse 44 Snoqualamie Pass tires. Again, all 
>>> with around ~100 miles. 
>>>
>>> I built them under the expert supervision of Karl Borne at True Cyclery 
>>> (New Haven, CT), formerly of Seven Cycles. Would anyone be interested in 
>>> taking these for around the price of the parts? Cost was ~$950. Take it for 
>>> $920?  
>>>
>>> Here's the breakdown.
>>> rims: 244
>>> spokes: 75
>>> nipples: 15
>>> VO grand cru: 165
>>> Son 28: 270
>>> tires: 142
>>> tubeless: 20
>>> valves: 16
>>>
>>> Can provide more pictures if interested. I am in New Haven, CT, and will 
>>> be in Oakland in two weeks and could pack them with me.
>>>
>>> photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/xUk2z4TVXDos9AyL8>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger, Son 28 wheelset

[David Baldi]

 Giving this a bump-update.
Thanks to those who expressed interest and made offers earlier this summer. 
Going to bump this to $700 + ship for wheels only. Happy to meet 
nor'easters for pickup too, ofc. 

David

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 10:28:06 AM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:

> Open to offers as well if you think that is not a reasonable ask. <3
>
> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 12:29:46 PM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I have a pair of polished, 36 hole Cliffhangers with ~100 miles on them. 
>> Laced to Son 28 dynamo in the front and Velo Orange Grand Cru in the rear, 
>> and mounted tubeless with Rene Herse 44 Snoqualamie Pass tires. Again, all 
>> with around ~100 miles. 
>>
>> I built them under the expert supervision of Karl Borne at True Cyclery 
>> (New Haven, CT), formerly of Seven Cycles. Would anyone be interested in 
>> taking these for around the price of the parts? Cost was ~$950. Take it for 
>> $920?  
>>
>> Here's the breakdown.
>> rims: 244
>> spokes: 75
>> nipples: 15
>> VO grand cru: 165
>> Son 28: 270
>> tires: 142
>> tubeless: 20
>> valves: 16
>>
>> Can provide more pictures if interested. I am in New Haven, CT, and will 
>> be in Oakland in two weeks and could pack them with me.
>>
>> photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/xUk2z4TVXDos9AyL8>
>>
>> -David
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger, Son 28 wheelset

[David Baldi]

Open to offers as well if you think that is not a reasonable ask. <3

On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 12:29:46 PM UTC-4 David Baldi wrote:

>
> Hey all,
>
> I have a pair of polished, 36 hole Cliffhangers with ~100 miles on them. 
> Laced to Son 28 dynamo in the front and Velo Orange Grand Cru in the rear, 
> and mounted tubeless with Rene Herse 44 Snoqualamie Pass tires. Again, all 
> with around ~100 miles. 
>
> I built them under the expert supervision of Karl Borne at True Cyclery 
> (New Haven, CT), formerly of Seven Cycles. Would anyone be interested in 
> taking these for around the price of the parts? Cost was ~$950. Take it for 
> $920?  
>
> Here's the breakdown.
> rims: 244
> spokes: 75
> nipples: 15
> VO grand cru: 165
> Son 28: 270
> tires: 142
> tubeless: 20
> valves: 16
>
> Can provide more pictures if interested. I am in New Haven, CT, and will 
> be in Oakland in two weeks and could pack them with me.
>
> photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/xUk2z4TVXDos9AyL8>
>
> -David
>

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[RBW] FS: Cliffhanger, Son 28 wheelset

[David Baldi]

Hey all,

I have a pair of polished, 36 hole Cliffhangers with ~100 miles on them. 
Laced to Son 28 dynamo in the front and Velo Orange Grand Cru in the rear, 
and mounted tubeless with Rene Herse 44 Snoqualamie Pass tires. Again, all 
with around ~100 miles. 

I built them under the expert supervision of Karl Borne at True Cyclery 
(New Haven, CT), formerly of Seven Cycles. Would anyone be interested in 
taking these for around the price of the parts? Cost was ~$950. Take it for 
$920?  

Here's the breakdown.
rims: 244
spokes: 75
nipples: 15
VO grand cru: 165
Son 28: 270
tires: 142
tubeless: 20
valves: 16

Can provide more pictures if interested. I am in New Haven, CT, and will be 
in Oakland in two weeks and could pack them with me.

photos 

-David

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[RBW] FS: 700c Cliffhanger, Son28 wheelset

[David Baldi]

Hey all,

I have a pair of polished, 36 hole Cliffhangers with ~100 miles on them. 
Laced to Son 28 dynamo in the front and Velo Orange Grand Cru in the rear, 
and mounted tubeless with Rene Herse 44 Snoqualamie Pass tires. Again, all 
with around ~100 miles. 

I built them under the expert supervision of Karl Borne at True Cyclery 
(New Haven, CT), formerly of Seven Cycles. Would anyone be interested in 
taking these for around the price of the parts? Cost was $950. Take it for 
$920? 
Here's the breakdown.
rims: 244
spokes: 75
nipples: 15
VO grand cru: 165
Son 28: 270
tires: 142
tubeless: 10

Can provide more pictures if interested. I am in New Haven, CT, and will be 
in Oakland in two weeks and could pack them with me.

photos 

-David

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[RBW] Re: Cazadero, Snoqualmie Pass comparisons?

[David Baldi]

+1 for RH knobbies. I build two wheelsets for my Sam, one with 44 Snoq and 
other with 48 Oracle Ridge. I just switched back to the knobs and it feels 
so good. You don't get exactly that same acceleration feeling on the road 
as you do with the slicks, but they still are quiet and fast. IMO, what you 
gain in the dirt is much more than what you loose on the road. The 42 HRs 
look great on Rivs too—I think I recently saw them on another sam on this 
list. 

david

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:39:28 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Adam, I came to pretty much the same conclusion. I started with Barlows, 
> and quickly moved to Snoqualmie EL's on the Hillborne. Not much more width 
> but definitely more volume and a cushier ride. I put some 42mm Cazaderos on 
> there for a brief period but I too found them sluggish by comparison (I 
> think the 50mm Cazadero tubeless is where it's at). I've also used 42mm 
> Hurricane Ridges on there (endurance casing), which definitely felt really 
> good on the road. I just spent most of my miles on the road so I couldn't 
> justify keeping them on all the time. In the end I built a second wheelset 
> so I could have one with slicks and one with knobbies. With respect to 
> flats I'm very lucky there. I've been commuting into work every day for 
> years (including one whole year on Snoqualmies) and only had one flat.. 
> after running my single speed into a snow bank during a blizzard.
>
> Bones
>
> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:11:47 AM UTC-4 Adam wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I've been comparing the Cazadero 42s to the RH Snoqualmie Pass ELs 
>> (thanks to a group member who sold me some well-used ones for cheap)
>>
>> I wanted to see other folks' experiences with these two pretty different 
>> tires?
>>
>> I'm using these on some new (to me) routes that combine sections of rough 
>> gravel, singletrack, and road through Philly.
>>
>> In an earlier thread, I'd been complaining about the slowness of the 
>> Cazaderos--thinking it might be the heavy MTB wheels on that bike, but 
>> people suggested a tire change and they were correct. With the Snoqualmie 
>> passes I get great acceleration and climbing in addition to the plushness.
>>
>> Now that I've done some of the same routes on both I've noticed that the 
>> range of mixed terrain is way more fun on The Snoqualmie pass, with the 
>> only real issue being a fair amount more sliding on dirt and roots. Mud is 
>> also much more of a thing than on the cazadero. Another negative, I did get 
>> two flats in a short ride yesterday. Maybe still working out the pressure. 
>> There's also an insane amount of broken glass on these routes.
>>
>> The Cazaderos feel much tougher, slide less on singletrack, and are more 
>> confidence inspiring. They are also way slower, even off road, and make the 
>> road sections more meh. They are far less cushy, really noticeable on rough 
>> gravel.
>>
>> I was concerned about the potential for less fender clearance under the 
>> VO 52s. So far, the Snoqualmie pass are actually a bit smaller than the 
>> Cazaderos. I'm not sure how much more they'll stretch, it's only been a 
>> week or so and they're around 40mm, I think.
>>
>> Anyway, I wanted to hear other folks' thoughts on these two. It seems 
>> like the comparable size RH knobby might be the best of both, but I'm going 
>> to work with this pair until I wear them out. . .
>>
>> ---Adam
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB VERY used Snoqualmie Pass

[David Baldi]

No luck here, but just chipping in to say that, when mounted on 
Cliffhangers, the SnoPs do just fit under VO 52mm fenders (Sam H). It is 
close enough to sketch me out a bit on dirt. 

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 9:09:48 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Adam
> Are you still making sling shots and selling security screws and bolts.
> I have a pair of "barely used "Snoqualmie pass 700c tires.  Black sidewall.
> My priorities have changed. Flat resistant takes precident over cushy ride 
> I had a flat and went back to schwalbe.
> This maybe more than you want to spend . You can see the fine tread like 
> new. They are pretty close to being a slick.
> How about $60 for both plus a sling shot and free shipping depending where 
> you live. 
> Let me know.
> Jon
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2021, 1:49 PM Adam  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm thinking about buying some snoqualmie pass tires, but would love to 
>> try them on some of the surfaces I ride before committing to the price of 
>> new ones.
>>
>> Does anyone have a set of VERY used sonqualmie passes that they'd be 
>> willing to sell for cheap? Even if they only have <50miles left, that's 
>> fine, I just want to check clearances under the VO 52mm fenders, their 
>> handling of mud and dirt, and compare them to the cazaderos I'm currently 
>> using.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Adam
>>
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[RBW] Re: Blue Hillborne pics?

[David Baldi]

greenteadrinker,

I have Oracle Ridges on my Sam and I love them. The extra volume and the 
extra grab on the dirt (like your HRs, i'm sure) make the Sam such a fun 
trail bike. Clearance is tight but safe—though I have mine mounted on 
dyads, not cliffhangers. You could see some pictures here 
 if you are interested. 

David
On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 6:47:50 AM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> @Erik, ha, sneaky! With the 650b wheelset, have you noticed a difference 
> with toe overlap vs. the 700c wheelset? I've been considering mounting 48mm 
> Oracle Ridges on my Sam, currently, I have 43mm Rock n' Roads on the Sam, 
> and 42mm Hurricane Ridges on my Simple One, all mounted tubless on 
> Cliffhangers. Really love the smooth, quiet, and confident feel of 42mm 
> Hurricane Ridges, and they fit perfectly under V/O Zeppelin Fenders. For 
> reference, the Simple One has around the same clearance as the Sam. I'm 
> also wondering if there's justification to switch from 42mm to 48mm tires? 
> A larger volume of air, but less clearance? With the 48's I suppose there 
> would be more issue with toe overlap as well, you also lose the option of 
> fendering. Another idea I'm considering is a 42mm Hurricane Ridge upfront 
> and a 44mm Snoqualmie Pass in the back, could also put a 48mm Oracle Ridge 
> upfront with the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass in the back. I'm just thinking out 
> loud here, thanks for listening!
> Scott, Western MA via West Philly
>
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:39:08 PM UTC-5 Erik Wright wrote:
>
>> Those are 27.5x2.1" Thunderburts on there, mounted to Velocity Dyads. I 
>> did a temporary 650b conversion on my Hillborne- I had a local framebuilder 
>> add canti posts at 650b height, then used Paul Motolites to switch between 
>> 650b and 700c. I'm back to 700c now rolling on 700x50 Gravelking SKs. Not 
>> sure if I'll ever really go back to 650b, but I like options.
>>
>> Clearance was very tight with the 27.5x2.1" and is equally tight with the 
>> 700x50mm. I think if I went back to 650b I'd do a 2"/50mm tire, but I'm not 
>> totally convinced there's a justifiable "why" for that right now.
>>
>> I've attached a photo of the bike in two other setups. Its current drop 
>> bar'd Gravelking setup, and a Choco bar'd Snoqualmie Pass'd setup I had for 
>> most of 2020.
>>
>> Erik, Philly
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 4:40:34 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> @Erik - what size Thunder Burts? Nice build!  -Scott
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 2:26:34 PM UTC-5 Erik Wright wrote:
>>>
 On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 1:01:28 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> [image: Sam_2019s.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:00:28 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> [image: SingleSpeedSam50.jpg]
>>
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 11:49:33 AM UTC-5 
>> zac.te...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone want to share their blue Sam pics? I just got a blue frame 
>>> and I'm looking for some inspiration!
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[David Baldi]

I just built up a Sam with Rene Herse Oracle Ridge on Velocity Dyads. Feels 
fantastic, and the clearance is perfect for use w/o fenders. 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/97k84okvey64VQ6r9

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:06:53 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:

> I have Vittoria Terreno Dry (47) on a Cliffhanger rim and I have minimal 
> clearance in the rear at the brake bridge. Also, the Paul Mini Motos mini 
> cable is ever so close to the tire tread. I also ran the same setup on 
> Velocity Quills and it was a little bit better in both the brake bridge and 
> brake cable clearance of the Mini Motos. I've also ran the GravelKing 1.9's 
> (non-slick) on both the Cliffhangers and Quills. Again, minimal clearance, 
> but it rolled.
>
> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:19:31 PM UTC-8 Mark Allen wrote:
>
>> Yes, it's the canti version from the last run (2018/2019) before this 
>> month's release.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-5 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have the canti version? I have side pull, and I don’t think I 
>>> could do fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires. Fenders and Barlow Pass 38 is 
>>> excellent though.
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Mark Allen  wrote:
>>>
>>> For anyone interested in the max size with fenders, the 44mm Rene 
>>> Herse Snoqualmie Pass under Velo Orange 52mm Zeppelin fenders fit my 2018 
>>> Hillborne perfectly, but I don't think I could go any larger for either 
>>> component.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:03:19 AM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
 To repeat what others have said, 48-50 really is the comfortable limit 
 on my 18'. I'm running 43mm and the SKS fenders are TIGHT, especially on 
 the rear. I know normally bike brands normally pad the max clearance to 
 prevent warranty claims, but Riv hasn't on this model. It really can't go 
 much bigger. 

 - Nathan

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[David Baldi]

New Sam build. This was one of the frames they found in the back a few 
months back. Also, my first wheel build!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using 48mm Compass/Rene Herse tires on a Sam Hillborne

[David Baldi]

I am really excited that these fit. I have found that there are not many 
700c tires around that sam max-out range to choose from. Has anyone here 
maxed out a sam w Honjo fenders? I know the 52s fit.. but has anyone tried 
bigger?

On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 10:59:43 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:

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> I see your note now. Thank you.  
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 10:52 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
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>>
>> So that’s a yes.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 10:36 PM Ulysses O  wrote:
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>>> [image: F2CD363D-1F99-4288-8264-BD77CD0E7AD9.jpeg]
>>>
>>> 650b 48
>>> On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 11:22:16 AM UTC-7 Joel wrote:
>>>
 I know the specs say up to 47mm but then I hear people talk about using 
 larger tires than spec’d on some bikes.  Thinking without fenders.

 Thanks 

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[RBW] ISO / WTB: 58cm Sam H or Joe A (frameset)

[David Baldi]

Hi all,

I am looking for a Sam H or Joe A frameset. Interested in all colors/eras, 
58cm (or close equivalent). 

Thank you! 
David in New Haven

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Joe Appaloosa in Sky Blue

[David Baldi]

Hi Andrew,

I am interested! What is your PBH?

David

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 7:17:00 AM UTC-7 Andrew Stevens wrote:

> Howdy! I love this bike but its too big! Selling for $1050 shipped via 
> bike flights with frame/fork/headset/bb/seatpost
>
> There are a few chips but NO dents
>
> Andrew in Austin
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[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[David Baldi]

Hi all,

I love camping with the Medium saddlesack. I have enough just enough 
clearance to run the bag without any support (first run 59 Clem, PBH 90.5), 
but I have a Mark's rack back there now and like having the extra 
stability. I have a cheap Soma rack upfront with a 137 Wald. For a three 
night trip through the San Rafael's (Bosco pics), I kept lighter stuff in 
the basket plus one camelback bladder, and lashed stuffsacks to the 
underside. We had to carry 13 liters each of water on this trip—I taped 
waterbottle cages everywhere, as you will see, and carried two bladders in 
the saddlebag, in addition to the camelback up front. No tent, still plenty 
of room, but heavy! But I was so comfortable the whole time. Weight 
distribution felt really good. For S24Os I do the more or less the same, 
without the stuff sacks, and think I will sew a shallow framebag for when I 
need to bring a tent (I am lashing it to the toptube currently, as in the 
pictures). I am always surprised how much you can do with saddlebag + 
basket. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1vLqhnwyJxNdbyJPA

: )
David

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:41:08 PM UTC-4, J L wrote:
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> Hello all, 
>
> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any 
> sage advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the 
> house, do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>
> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a 
> backpack or bike basket and going. 
>
> Jason 
> SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT Albatross Bars

[David Baldi]

Got the bars... many thanks. 

D

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 9:42:54 AM UTC-5, David Baldi wrote:
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> Hi all, 
>
> Any one have Albas kicking around? Cromo or HT Alu. 
>
> Thanks!
> David
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[RBW] WTB/WTT Albatross Bars

[David Baldi]

Hi all, 

Any one have Albas kicking around? Cromo or HT Alu. 

Thanks!
David

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto Dirt Drop Stem

[David Baldi]

Hi Tim,

I have one if you have not already found one. DM for deets!

David

On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 8:01:47 AM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote:
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> Hi all, does anybody have a 10 CM x 25.4 Dirt Drop stem in the parts bin 
> that you'd be willing to part with?
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[RBW] Re: Alternative Bars for the Clem

[David Baldi]

Tom,

What is your height and PBH? Clem looks great!

Best,
David

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 8:46:03 AM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> Wayne, thanks.  Boscos definitely come back closer to the saddle, and are 
> obviously higher, no matter how slammed.  
>
> As for the Jones, I measured 16-1/4" between a straight edge held between 
> the tips of the bar and the saddle tip.  Jones bars have long grips; 7-1/2" 
> from bar tip up to the brake clamp.  Between saddle tip and quill bolt 
> center is 19".  Stem has a 60mm reach.  (My Clem is a 59.)
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 10:23:45 PM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> Those Jones bars on the Clem are the bees knees, for sure.  TC, can you 
>> compare the reach between the Bosco and the Jones bars.  As in, how far 
>> does each come back?  I've got the stock Bosco-moose bar on my Clem now. 
>>  I'm trying to figure out what stem length to use with a Jones bar.  The 
>> current Clem cockpit has me very upright, even with the bars "slammed," as 
>> it were.
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[RBW] Water in Los Padres?

[David Baldi]

Hi all,

I am gearing up for three days in Los Padres backcountry (SLO-SB). Has 
anyone been back there this year? And did you find water? I know we had a 
huge amount of rain this year, but I've heard that much of it fell on the 
"wrong" side of Padres. 

I will certainly provide a ride report and share some pictures once back! 
We've got a Clem, and old Shogun, and a Steelman between the three of us. 

Cheers.
David

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