[RBW] Re: 1 Toptube or 2 -- Comparing the Two Versions of the Hillborne
I think it's cool that these various iterations of the Hillborne are out there - keeps it interesting. Mine is a single top tube 60cm Maxway with cantis and the fork shown on the Waterford in Bryan's photos. It might be just a tad flexy for some people, but it feels just right under my 160 lb. I'd love to ride both of Bryan's frames built up with identical components; what a education that would be! a...@ecovelo On Sep 1, 11:04 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: In the Shop we happen to have two 56cm Hillbornes. One is the Taiwanese made Maxway, the other is the Waterford version from WI. Of course, we couldn't help but take photos:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7gallery=66 Obviously, the double toptuber is the Waterford version. It also includes braze-ons for cantilever brakes, and a rear bridge for the cable stop. The fork crowns are different. Because I know people will ask ... the weight difference between the frames is 8 ounces. For perspective, that is about the difference between a full water bottle and one that is 3/4 full. Both bikes are in our build queue; we'll post pictures when they are complete. Now, let the debate begin ... Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touch-up Paint for Orange Hillborne Revealed
Awesome. Thanks, Bryan! On Aug 30, 6:36 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: It's probably inevitable that your Orange Hillborne is going to get a nick or two ... For touching-up we've found the following recipe to work well: 3 drops of Orange Pearl Colors by Boyd from Testor's 1 drop of 1114 Yellow by Testors As with any re-touch, it won't be 100% as good as new, but this is just about as perfect as can be expected. And for making the surface smooth ... well lots of thin layers (and patience) is the best approach. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Bags
Both of the bags are sold. Thanks, all! On Jul 26, 9:45 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: The buyer backed out, so the Country Bag is still available. Thanks, Alan On Jul 26, 7:55 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a pair of hard to find Nigel Smythe tweed bags for sale. These are a few years old, but in very good condition, never used in the rain, etc. Nigel Smythe Country Bag, Tweed: If I remember correctly, these sold new for around $200. Asking $125 + actual shipping Nigel Smythe Bar Tube, Tweed: Again, not sure on the original price, but asking $60 + actual shipping Photos here: http://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-countrybag.jpghttp://www Please contact me at the following e-mail address: a...@ecovelo.info Thanks! Alan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Bags
Hi, I have a pair of hard to find Nigel Smythe tweed bags for sale. These are a few years old, but in very good condition, never used in the rain, etc. Nigel Smythe Country Bag, Tweed: If I remember correctly, these sold new for around $200. Asking $125 + actual shipping Nigel Smythe Bar Tube, Tweed: Again, not sure on the original price, but asking $60 + actual shipping Photos here: http://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-countrybag.jpg http://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-bartube.jpg Please contact me at the following e-mail address: a...@ecovelo.info Thanks! Alan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Bags
The Country Bag is sold. On Jul 26, 7:55 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a pair of hard to find Nigel Smythe tweed bags for sale. These are a few years old, but in very good condition, never used in the rain, etc. Nigel Smythe Country Bag, Tweed: If I remember correctly, these sold new for around $200. Asking $125 + actual shipping Nigel Smythe Bar Tube, Tweed: Again, not sure on the original price, but asking $60 + actual shipping Photos here: http://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-countrybag.jpghttp://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-bartube.jpg Please contact me at the following e-mail address: a...@ecovelo.info Thanks! Alan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Bags
The buyer backed out, so the Country Bag is still available. Thanks, Alan On Jul 26, 7:55 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a pair of hard to find Nigel Smythe tweed bags for sale. These are a few years old, but in very good condition, never used in the rain, etc. Nigel Smythe Country Bag, Tweed: If I remember correctly, these sold new for around $200. Asking $125 + actual shipping Nigel Smythe Bar Tube, Tweed: Again, not sure on the original price, but asking $60 + actual shipping Photos here: http://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-countrybag.jpghttp://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-bartube.jpg Please contact me at the following e-mail address: a...@ecovelo.info Thanks! Alan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sam Hillborne Photos and Review
Hi, I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne here: http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-hillborne/ Enjoy, a...@ecovelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Photos and Review
Hi Patrick, I have a house full of cargo bikes including a Civia Loring, Yuba Mundo, and Surly Long Haul Trucker; the Hillborne is much livelier than any of those tanks.. ;-) Seriously, when I say lively I'm thinking more in terms of frame compliance than weight. The LHT is a good bike to use for comparison because it's very popular and similar in configuration to the Hillborne; the Surly is much stiffer and, to me, has a dead feeling in comparison. In this sense, the Hillborne is indeed lively (at least in the 60cm size). I'm surprised at your comment regarding the steering - I find it perfectly spot on. Were you, by chance, running a heavy load in the rear? Enjoy your new bike - I hope it ends up working out for you. Regards, Alan On Jun 28, 9:41 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting writeup, Alan, particulary about how you find the bike lively. I think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness and light feeling of the front end, a sort of sluggishness when accelerating compared to my other bikes, even the heavy and relatively cheaply built Motobecane Grand Record. When I stand on the pedals on the SH, it feels reluctant to surge. Now the SH is pretty heavy with rack and fenders in rear and dynohub in front, but it's not heavier than the Motobecane, I don't think. Now, to place my criticisms in perspective, I don't find the SH handles annoyingly badly; it just doesn't shine like the bikes that remain in my possession after filtering dozens through my garage over the last 20 years. Perhaps riding position has a lot to do with it, since I also take a 58 usually, but chose a 56 with saddle pretty far back and Noodles on a 9 cm Technomic just a wee bit higher than plane of top of saddle (rump to nose). Anyway, it will be fine for the sort of touring I plan to do, firmish dirt with pavement. And I'll spend this week riding it to make sure I explore its possibilities fully -- I've put only 180 miles or so on it since buying it in March. PAM On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I posted a review (of sorts) and a set of photos of the Sam Hillborne here: http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/long-term-road-test-rivendell-sam-... Enjoy, a...@ecovelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: anyone notice the subtle change to RBW website
Ahhh... much better. On Dec 14, 7:42 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: don't think I've read about it yet. No more having to look at it or read about it. Now both perspectives one the same page. Nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Betty Foy Eye Candy
Here's a little Betty Foy eye candy for you: http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/12/08/betty-foy-eye-candy/ Best regards, a...@ecovelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: If you need a 56 Hillborne...
Sweet bike! I'm pretty well smitten with my orange 60cm Hillborne. a...@ecovelo On Dec 2, 3:02 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I sold all my Hillbornes and Foys this year, except one 56 cm Hillborne, which has been a floor model for a couple months. The 56 size was the size that sold fastest for Riv, but, strangely that size was the slowest to sell for me. Just for grins, I took it for a short ride (7 miles) today, which was my first time going farther than around the block on a Hillborne. That's a fine machine. I should get one for myself someday, but this one is for sale:http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2009/12/sam-hillborne-ride.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dandy Time for Dandy Cyclists
We attended a Tweed Ride in Sacramento recently. The ride leaders were on a pair of Quickbeams, with a number of other Rivs in attendance as well. http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/11/08/sacramento-tweed-ride/ Alan On Nov 16, 7:09 am, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote: Bodes well for Mr. Petersen's business: http://bit.ly/2r8us3 Bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Sackville Quick Review + Photos
For those who are interested, I posted a quick review and some photos of our Sackville bags here: http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/11/14/stuff-we-like-rivendell-sackville-bags/ Regards, a...@ecovelo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: AHH with 45mm VO fenders and what size tires?
I think the Jack Browns with 45mm V/O fenders will look good. Here's a Hillborne with Jack Browns and 45mm Honjos: http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/12/more-sam-h-pics/ a...@ecovelo http://www.ecovelo.info On Sep 29, 9:44 am, William F. House williamfho...@gmail.com wrote: My AHH is being built this week and/or next and I initially had it spec'd with Marathon XR tires, but ended up feeling they looked too aggressive and opted for some Jack Brown blues. I know the Jack Browns are 33.333 mm. Should those look okay with 45mm VO fenders? Help a newbie out! Should I get something bigger? I want something fairly durable and I ride mostly streets with the very occasional dirt trail. I'm mainly interested in comfort and quiet. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: The Great Debate: Green versus Orange Sam Hillborne
I'm partial to orange, but you knew that already... :-) http://www.ecovelo.info/images/country-bike-1000.jpg a...@ecovelo On Sep 29, 4:15 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: We thought it might be fun to fan the flames a little bit, so we took some side-by-side photos: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7gallery=21 Obviously the Green is a popular, judging by how quickly Rivendell sold out of a few sizes. But lately, our customers are after the Orange. My vote is for the Green, but then again it is much closer to my personal color palette my wife calls Earth Monotone. Cheers, Bryan [Disclaimer: As always, we try to be true to the actual color of the frame, but between studio lighting, digital camera, iPhotoshop-ing, and monitor calibration, your mileage may vary.] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica
I have S-A Titanicos with slots on two of my bikes, and a Brooks B-67 and B-17 on two others. I love the B-67 on bikes with upright bars like North Roads, but for bikes with more drop to the bars, I find the S-A saddles more comfortable than either of the Brooks saddles (this is purely personal preference). I've heard many complaints about the S- A stretching prematurely, and I don't doubt it, though I'm sure that depends upon a person's weight and riding style. I weigh 155 lbs. and the stretching on both S-A's has been minimal so far (I've been riding one for over a year). I'm curious to try an Imperial, but I have to think part of what makes the S-A different than the Brooks is the softer leather in addition to the slot. I'm sure in the long run the Brooks saddles will outlast the Titanicos, but for me it's a worthwhile investment. On Sep 26, 8:21 pm, bradgantt bga...@dentsuamerica.com wrote: Hello Bunchers, I am really close to taking delivery on my Custom Riv. and am now trying to decide on an appropriate saddle. I am 6' 3 195 lbs. and the bike will be a 700c with clearance for 42s, drop bars, etc. I have a Brooks B-17 that has seen limited use, which I am considering having slotted (slotted saddles are much more comfortable for me) by Selle Anatomica. My other thought was to get a Titanico. I noticed that Riv no longer carries Selle Anatomica saddles. Does anybody know why? Has anyone here had their Brooks slotted? I'm all ears, thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: expanded frame geo sparse sizing
I'm not 100% sure about this, but I suppose if you think of the limiting factor as handlebar height, then frames with upsloping top tubes do provide a wider range of adjustment per frame size. Rarely (at least among the circle of riders who would be interested in these bikes) do we hear anyone talk about wanting their handlebars lower, but we frequently talk to people who would like their handlebars higher, but are limited due to stem extension, steerer length, etc. The upsloping top tube gives the rider a few more centimeters of upward adjustment, effectively extending the fit range. Again, this only makes sense if you believe maximum handlebar height in relation to stand over height is the limiting factor. On Sep 23, 6:56 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: First let me say that the Hillborne is an awesome looking bike and seems to have incredible versatility. It is truly a unique bike! What I'm wondering about is the sparse sizing available for Rivendell's expanded geometry frames, such as the Hillborne. As I understand it, the reasoning behind offering fewer sizes of these frames is that one size will fit a wider range of PBHs. However, it seems to me that the upsloping top-tube should not actually add any versatility in terms of fit, because the numbers that matter in sizing a bike are not actually affected by it. Specifically, I think that given a particular BB drop and seat-tube angle, the two *main* numbers that matter in how comfortable a bike will be are (1) how high the handle bars are and (2) how long the top tube is*. For a given rider, their chosen seat height is not going to change no matter how tall the seat-tube is, unless of course the seat-tube exceeds their seat height. So in 'normal' frame fitting, the 2 cm seat-tube size intervals for a particular model are really allowing the rider to choose their base handlebar height and handlebar distance, to be fine-tuned with stem length etc. Perhaps it would make more sense if the industry had chosen head-tube length/TT length rather than seat-tube length as the number indicating frame size(?) Anyway, in offering only 4 sizes of a frame for the Sam Hillborne, you are really only getting 4 choices of base-handlebar height (not including the bounded, yet infinite number of positions you can adjust a quill stem) and top-tube length. If those are the most important measurements in fitting a frame, I wonder if the wider-range thing really holds true. Just to clarify, I'm not criticizing Rivendell at all for only offering 4 sizes of the Hillborne frame. Also, I know NOTHING about frame design next to Grant Petersen and the folks at Rivendell. Of course I realize that it makes sense from an economical point of view to limit the sizes of this frame-- however, it still does not make sense to me that one of these frames will fit a wider range of riders, any more or less than a frame with a standard geometry. Matt Admiring the Hillorne but just wondering *this is assuming typical head-tube angles, rake, cs length, etc, and of course a comfortable seat. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne drool-fest
It's my understanding they're being built by Maxway. The Sam I have in my possession is clean as a whistle. Alan On Sep 20, 7:32 pm, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: Who is building the Sams? Anyone else have paint lumps/slopping brazing? I'm interested in getting one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne drool-fest
Yup. On Sep 21, 11:30 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that orange a standard color for the second run? On Sep 13, 7:50 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't that custom paint amazing! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new hillborne pics
Beautiful bike - congrats. A few more Hillborne pics here, these in orange: http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/12/more-sam-h-pics/ a...@ecovelo On Sep 14, 8:54 pm, jason jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone.. i received my new bike a few days ago.. i believe it's the last green in size 56...at least that riv hq had i know some of their dealers still have other green s.h. frames.. this is outfitted with the cheaper VO 48mm flutted flat-finish aluminum fenders...that weren't too difficult to do right... these are pics from a ride yesterday with plenty of produce in the basket and trunksack.. and also from a leisurely 50 mile ride into the new jersey palisades from brooklyn i took today http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100056 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
