Re: [RBW] Re: How do I know when a saddle fits?

[Emily Guise]

Hey all, thanks so much for your insights! I'm local to Portland OR, and 
there is a bike fitter in town, Pedal PT, who also does physical therapy. 
I've been wondering if I should get a fit with them, and it seems like I 
should look into it more seriously.

My travel/adventure/distance bike is a Bike Friday, and that's the one I'd 
get fit. I do tend to like the flatter saddles, and usually ride with the 
nose titled up. A challenge is that I have very long arms and legs but a 
shorter torso. Anyone with a similar body type have any advice?

I have tried women's specific saddles- I tried a Terry Liberator for a 
while, but it was just SO hard, even though the cutout was fantastic. The 
same with the Brookses, I always felt like I was sitting on the metal edge 
or the leather was as unforgiving as wood and as uncomfortable. I'm trying 
out Riv's new plastic saddle on my Platypus right now. It's sort of 
comfortable but also feels maybe not quite wide enough. I'll have to give 
it a few more weeks. 


On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 7:22:12 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:

> Roberta, have you experimented with a cut-out saddle? 
>
> Jock
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:20 AM Roberta  wrote:
>
>> The Philadelphia Trek store can measure sits bones. Perhaps there is one 
>> near you to give you some direction?
>>
>> I prefer a flat top like the B68 to a rounder top B17. I also have wide 
>> sits bones, so B17 too narrow for me.   I tilt the saddle nose up, so I’m 
>> sitting on the flat back part of the saddle.  Otherwise I slide to the 
>> front sitting on the nose part, and that is very irritating.  Where are you 
>> sitting on the saddle?
>>
>> Also take notice where the seams of your underwear are when you’re riding 
>> as sit bones on seams are irritating. 
>>
>> Roberta
>> Philadelphia 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 4:00:24 PM UTC-4 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> Hello folks, I come to the group with a dilemma. I've never had a saddle 
>>> that I could ride for longer than 20 miles comfortably. I've always ended 
>>> up with sore sit bones, numb soft tissue, or both. This has really limited 
>>> my ability to go on longer trips and after my five day ride on the C 
>>> canal trail last Sept, it was more apparent than ever I need to find a 
>>> saddle that won't hurt. 
>>>
>>> I've tried dozens of saddles over the last 15 years- leather, plastic, 
>>> cutouts, no cutouts, wide, medium, softer, harder, you name it. :( Most of 
>>> the saddles that have stayed on my bikes for longer than a month have a 
>>> central cut out, are on the wider side, and plastic. They're good for 
>>> around town, but that's it. I've never had my sit bones measured. 
>>>
>>> It occurred to me recently that because I've never had a truly 
>>> comfortable long-distance saddle, I have no idea how one feels. So I 
>>> figured I'd ask the group. How did The One saddle feel for you? Did it 
>>> "disappear"? Was it love at first sit? Did it need to be adjusted a lot 
>>> before finding the ideal position? Is there a certain amount of miles you 
>>> ride before it becomes uncomfortable? 
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear the group's collective wisdom so I know what to look 
>>> for in the next saddle I try out. Thanks! 
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] How do I know when a saddle fits?

[Emily Guise]

Hello folks, I come to the group with a dilemma. I've never had a saddle 
that I could ride for longer than 20 miles comfortably. I've always ended 
up with sore sit bones, numb soft tissue, or both. This has really limited 
my ability to go on longer trips and after my five day ride on the C 
canal trail last Sept, it was more apparent than ever I need to find a 
saddle that won't hurt. 

I've tried dozens of saddles over the last 15 years- leather, plastic, 
cutouts, no cutouts, wide, medium, softer, harder, you name it. :( Most of 
the saddles that have stayed on my bikes for longer than a month have a 
central cut out, are on the wider side, and plastic. They're good for 
around town, but that's it. I've never had my sit bones measured. 

It occurred to me recently that because I've never had a truly comfortable 
long-distance saddle, I have no idea how one feels. So I figured I'd ask 
the group. How did The One saddle feel for you? Did it "disappear"? Was it 
love at first sit? Did it need to be adjusted a lot before finding the 
ideal position? Is there a certain amount of miles you ride before it 
becomes uncomfortable? 

I'd love to hear the group's collective wisdom so I know what to look for 
in the next saddle I try out. Thanks! 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Emily Guise]

I have been all about the coastal grandma trend this summer, so I've been 
wearing a lot of flowy wide-legged pants. All of my current bikes have 
exposed chains, so what I've been doing is the peg and fold (as mentioned 
above) to my knee on the drive side leg while riding, then a quick unfold 
upon arriving at my destination. Folding it at least 3 times seems to be 
the key for these kinds of fabrics, as folding it only once or twice has 
caused unfortunate mid-ride unfolds. For fall, I usually wear slightly 
stiffer fabrics like denim and twill, so even though they are wide-leg, if 
I roll them up a 1-2 times then they stay and I don't usually need to peg 
them as well. If I get grease on them, it is at least on the inside. I wear 
mid-calf or knee-high socks so my legs stay warm.

Leah, I think we are close to the same age, and while the skinny leg and 
boot trend was great for biking, the thigh constriction was not, IMO. So I 
too am loving the return of high waist wide legs and freer thigh movement! 
:)

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:08:15 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> While I don’t consider myself the most stylish of dressers, what I wear 
> daily is also what works for me well on the bike. I have never liked the 
> idea of bike-specific clothing, so I’ve gravitated towards daily wear that 
> also functions perfectly while riding. My bike friends have noted that I 
> almost always wear some sort of button-up shirt, so I guess that is my 
> “style”, for lack of a better word. In the summer, I prefer long-sleeve, 
> roomy shirts that are lightweight and allow for venting or flapping in the 
> breeze. My current favorite summer shirts are somewhat technical fabric (I 
> think), and are various levels of UPF for that important sun protection. I 
> have probably five shirts made by Howler Brothers, and specifically their 
> “Matagorda” shirt. It’s kinda like those fishing shirts you see men wearing 
> but a bit more stylish and without those beachy pastel colors. I find them 
> ultra comfortable on hot days, and your body stays cooler with less exposed 
> skin. For footwear, my summer choice is either Vans or Five Ten for that 
> good grip on flat pedals. I haven’t really arrived at a preferred pair of 
> shorts… usually whatever works fine for me.
>
> For Fall and Winter, I’m either wearing my Kitsbow Icon or my Pendleton 
> Canyon shirts (both are the same weight Pendleton wool). The Kitsbow is 
> pricey and technical and you can no longer buy them unfortunately. I like 
> the fit, but the Pendleton Canyon is more relaxed and casual (think 
> old-school cowboy wear). Pair either of these shirts with a wool t-shirt or 
> long-sleeve base layer and you are all set for cool weather riding. All of 
> my pants are typically slim-cut, so I never have any issues with the cuff 
> getting caught up in the drivetrain. My favorite riding pants are from when 
> Levis used to make a line of “bike commuter” pants. They’re like heavy 
> duty, gusseted-crotch chinos with a combination of cotton and spandex for a 
> bit of stretch. I have two pair, but unfortunately they no longer make 
> them… but they’re amazing. I also prefer to bike in Blundstone boots during 
> the colder months of the year. They are actually quite nice for pedaling.
>
> I should also note that I never wear chamois or bibs, ever. I sweat too 
> much, and the thought of sitting on a wet sponge causing all that nasty 
> friction kinda grosses me out. Just wool boxers, whatever pants I’m 
> wearing, and a leather saddle. That combo has always treated my right, even 
> on 100 mi rides.
>
> Brian
> Lexington, KY
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  
> wrote:
>
> Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and 
> the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain 
> having recently greased up the leg of my new 
> so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.
>
>
> I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I 
> love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the 
> Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs 
> and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was 
> hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to 
> pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them 
> nearly every ride to work.
>
> For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg 
> and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. 
> Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and 
> photos coming! 
>
> Danielle
>
> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love 
>> these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very 
>> specific 

[RBW] Re: Anyone using an ABUS frame lock on a CLEM JR?

[Emily Guise]

Mackenzy- I put a frame lock on my 59cm Clem L last fall. I think this one 
<https://www.dutchbikebits.com/locks/axa-block-xxl-lock> is it (I got it on 
clearance at Clever Cycles, so it didn't have packaging). I've found it 
hasn't added significant weight, nor was it hard to install (definitely a 
LOT easier than fenders) and I've used it with both 60cm and 57cm tires, no 
problem. Even on muddy paths the tire clearance hasn't been an issue, 
surprisingly. It's a nice bit of extra security when I'm locking up around 
the city, so I'm a fan.

-Emily

On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:58:10 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> Thanks all for the input everyone. 
>
> RMROSE - there's two M4 bolts on the underside of the seat stays you can 
> bolt a frame lock onto. Pretty neat, I'd say! 
>
> Joe - No worries on the misspelling, the autocorrect of my life. I do like 
> the Otto lock, but this winter bumped the combination at the liquor store 
> with my mitten and it partially removed and locked up and it reset the lock 
> to a random code in -40 and had force it off. I was quite surprised - but 
> then after some internet research it is a common issue for the lock if 
> bumped to auto reset the combination so lost faith in them a bit. If i was 
> far from home and couldn't get my bike unlocked it would be a bad day! Its 
> a shame because I otherwise love the lock. 
>
> I think this seems to be the general consensus that they are heavy and 
> awkward to install. I may just wait and invest the $80cad elsewhere for 
> now. It's not necessary for the initial build - perhaps I'll wait until the 
> build is further completed. 
> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:07:31 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> I have an AXA frame lock on my 52 Clementine. It clears 650B x 50mm tires 
>> and fenders, but not 27.5 x 2.4 without modification. There are three pairs 
>> of mounting slots in the lock. When moved to the slots that clear the 2.4 
>> tires, the moving part of the lock barely hits the Velocity Cliffhanger 
>> rims. I am going to grind/file the slots so that the lock clears the 2.4 
>> tires and rim. I am also going to have to split the fender at the lock. 
>> Nothing particularly difficult to to for the mechanically inclined, just a 
>> lot of measure/check, cut/grind/file and repeat.
>> The ABUS on a 64 will probably be something similar - fits with smaller 
>> tires, requires adjustments with larger tires.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 11:43:49 AM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> I'm building a 64cm Clem right now and noticed it has the braze-ons for 
>>> a frame lock. It seems like a good option for bike camping and added 
>>> security for commuter parking. 
>>>
>>> Anyone here have experience with one? Would they work with a 2.1-2.3 
>>> tire? I also swear I read somewhere that the 64 has wider seat stays and so 
>>> may need modifications. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A cage for a Platypus?

[Emily Guise]

So funny that you posted this-I have that cage on my Platypus! It is in 
fact an otter, from local-to-me company Portland Design Works. Can confirm 
it holds a water bottle as tightly as a mama otter holds her baby. :)

On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:31:50 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA 
wrote:

> No, not that kind of cage. Might be an otter, but it has a baby Platy 
> vibe. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-05-01 at 4.24.31 PM copy.jpg]
> Speaking of baby Platypuses:
>
> [image: images.jpeg]
> Find the cage (and an owl and a lucky kitty version)  here:
>
> Caged Animals 
> 
>
> Marty
>

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Re: [RBW] Clem chain/fender interference

[Emily Guise]

I had this same fender chain rub issue, and had a bike shop cut out that 
little section of fender pretty much the same as Keith's photo. Still 
plenty of coverage and no noise :)

-Emily

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 11:28:45 AM UTC-7 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> I had this issue on my Clem. I used a pocket knife to make the notch. It 
> took two minutes.
>
> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 8:58:40 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>>
>> I used a milling bit in a dremel tool.  This is the best pic I can find, 
>> but hopefully helps.  Just took a moment, didn't affect rigidity/integrity 
>> of fender at all, and was able to locate it precisely as needed.
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> +1. It's not hard to do. In fact, some wide Planet Bike and SKS fenders 
>>> come pre-cut. 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 11:40 AM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>>>
>>>> From the Riv website for SKS fenders:
>>>>
>>>> Most of the time these fenders fit without modification, but sometimes 
>>>> the fit is imperfect and they need home-surgery to clear a front derailer 
>>>> or chainstay or seatstay. Use side-cutters or snips of some sort to cut 
>>>> away the interferering plastic, then dremel or hand file the rough edge 
>>>> smooth. Add tough tape to cover it or leave it raw.
>>>>
>>>> Jay Lonner
>>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> One of my big regrets of my Clem is not paying Riv the $40 or $50 they 
>>>> wanted to install the fenders.  Instead, they just arrived in the box.  
>>>> After a particularly cold rainy ride a couple of years ago, I finally 
>>>> installed them.
>>>>
>>>> Now it seems I cannot adjust out the tendency of the chain to rub the 
>>>> fender.  They've always rubbed when I use the 34 in the back and the next 
>>>> lowest gear as well.  After the bike's only trip ever to the shop this 
>>>> month to diagnose a dragging freehub which has since been replaced, the 
>>>> chain is rubbing worse than ever in the lower gears, and the front small 
>>>> ring is about impossible.
>>>>
>>>> I'm feeling like I want to take my Dremel to the fender and trim back a 
>>>> quarter inch or so.
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Help me buy a Riv

[Emily Guise]

Hands down, IMO, get a Platypus! Honestly SO good for riding around town, 
it's super comfortable and stable. Climbs like a dream, fast on the flats 
to speed through those yellow lights, easy step through frame for hopping 
on and off. Looks gorgeous and you will receive many compliments, but it 
can definitely handle all-too-frequent potholes and unpaved gravel sections 
of streets (maybe that's just in Portland?). I have a basket up front and a 
rear rack for carrying stuff and they don't weigh the bike down at all, and 
they're fantastic for errands. 

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 4:56:10 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Having a proto Gallop (designed to be a zippier road bike) and now a Clem 
> (designed to be a do all modern mountain bike) I can say that the overall 
> opinion that the Clem is not as sprite as other models comes down to builds 
> more than frame. I can easily say that if I threw heavier commuter tires on 
> the Gallop and added some racks and a Dynamo wheel and then on the flip 
> side gave the Clem some light components and nice light/supple tires that 
> the Clem would feel much zippier than the Gallop. I would argue that there 
> isn't a bike in the lineup that couldnt do what you want to do and be a 
> whole lot of fun to ride while you are doing it.  Maybe not the Roadeo but 
> that's about it.  
>
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 7:30:40 AM UTC-4 Rusty Click wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>> I live in Pittsburgh, PA and if your travels take you anywhere near...say 
>> somewhere between CLE and IAD, I'd bring you my 60 Sam to ride.  I also 
>> have a MUSA 62 Atlantis that's set up as a tourer if you'd like to try it. 
>>  I use the Sam very much like you plan to do and love the ride.  I've even 
>> had racks on it and used it for weeklong touring (before Atlantis), and it 
>> held up fine even if a little out of its wheelhouse.
>>
>> Rusty
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 9:58:33 AM UTC-5 Graham McCall wrote:
>>
>>> I’m currently trying to decide what Riv to buy for a general around town 
>>> city build. Plan would be upright bars, front rack and dynamo build. 
>>>
>>> I’d like something that isn’t specifically designed around carrying a 
>>> ton of stuff. I’d prefer something fun to ride then be built to carry the 
>>> kitchen sink. 
>>>
>>> What frames have people built up this way that feel great? 
>>>
>>> I was thinking a Joe, Homer, etc. I also love the Clem, but haven’t 
>>> ridden any Riv. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Emily Guise]

Congrats on the new commute, Roberta! Biking to work is so great, and now 
that I'm working from home, I miss it a lot. My own stuff carrying 
evolution went from backpack -> backpack in milk crate on a rear rack -> 
Dutch style double panniers -> Ortleib pannier -> tote-bag style pannier 
(more professional looking than an Ortleib off the bike) -> back to a 
backpack inside the Dutch style panniers, which kept it dry and also left 
room for errands on the way home. I also had baskets up front, because 
baskets are the best. 

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 9:40:40 AM UTC-8 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:

> It's slightly off the topic of commuting bags, but over the many years I 
> have commuted via pedals (from age 17 to age 61), I discovered that a 
> single speed or fixed gear commute bike was ideal: much fewer repairs, no 
> malfunctions, and really strong wheels (the latter cannot be overstressed-- 
> no pun intended)!  The Rivendell 'Quickbeam' was perfect (with moustache 
> bars to get leverage for accelerations and easy hills).  The fixed gear is 
> less ideal if you have long steep hills, but most commutes do not.  I found 
> that fixed gear was far better in terms of both speed and efficiency on my 
> commutes.  Now my commute is uphill most of the way, so I am using my 
> Teesdale touring bike, but the fixed gear was the best ever for all my 
> other flat or rolling commutes.  
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 9:27 AM  wrote:
>
>> On my commutes I also carried a large thermos full of coffee since our 
>> office coffee was pretty bad. It added weight but coffee is worth the extra 
>> effort.
>>
>> I basically work from home now so I have to find excuses to get out and 
>> do errands throughout the week to ride. 
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2022, at 8:17 AM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> These days it's semi-casual, but I still need to look sort-of 
>> professional.  I wear my top and  just change my shoes and pants because 
>> they can get dirty on the trip.  Last week I got one leg soaked when a 
>> driver ran over a big puddle at full speed.  
>>
>> I think I'll keep shoes in the office, so will only be totting pants and 
>> lunch.  I am going to try Tom's bag in a pannier option on my Platypus, and 
>> with the bag in a basket option on the She-Devil.  
>>
>> I loved reading everyone's responses and seeing your enthusiasm.  Thank 
>> you.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 12:33:47 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta,
>>> One thing I may have missed is what sort of work attire do you need to 
>>> carry?
>>> Two miles is a relatively short distance and unless it’s really humid or 
>>> raining, you may not need to change. 
>>> If your clothes need to be neatly pressed then you will need to keep 
>>> them neatly folded for your commute. 
>>> A basked with some sort of tote bag would likely cover most of your 
>>> needs and keeping some work clothes at work could cover you for the days 
>>> you really need to change. 
>>> When I commuted 10 miles each way, I changed at work. 
>>> When I commuted 3 miles each way, I rode in my work clothes. 
>>> Neither job required dress attire. 
>>> A backpack in hot weather doesn’t appeal to me but 2 miles gives to tons 
>>> of flexibility. 
>>>
>>> Congratulations on your short commute. What a blessing to have so many 
>>> hours liberated from your workweek. 
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 6:57:50 AM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 *" I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
 
  
 that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide 
 it 
 inside the pannier, basket or saddle bag.  That helps me keep my stuff 
 more 
 organized. "--Tom*


 This is brilliant!!!  I like simplicity and no fuss.  The She-Devil 
 already has a basket and the Platypus, I expect, will soon have panniers.  
 If I take my third bike H. Homer Hilsen for a long after work ride, I can 
 use the Riv Saddle Sack, so it won't matter which bike I'll take--I'll be 
 set.

 It's so great reading about everyone's experiences.

 Roberta

 On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 2:44:41 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> In my years of commuting I've used:
> 1) Milk Crate
> 2) Wald Basket
> 3) Panniers
> 4) Saddle Bag (Riv Large Saddle Sack)
>
> I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
> 
>  
> that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide 
> it *inside 
> *the pannier, basket 

[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Emily Guise]

I've had the Pletscher double-legged kickstand on my 60cm Platy since day 1 
and it's been great at keeping the bike stable; would definitely recommend 
it.

On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:20:37 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Good luck - spend the $ on the Rene Hearse whatever route you chose for a 
> build. They really are a lovely smooth tire & run beautifully comfortable 
> at around 45psi even on the horrendous potholed streets in my neighborhood.
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 10:05:17 AM UTC-6 Rusty Click wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> It may be a tough sell as opposed to continued tinkering with the Treks 
>> setup, but maybe, just maybe I can convince her to try the Riv.
>>
>> Roberta, I too, believe that the Platy will be a little heavier but with 
>> a lighter build, it would fit her needs nicely.  She is strictly a bike 
>> path/rail-trail rider and It would be "rolling weight", and a comfy ride. 
>>  If we are ever out your way, I would love for her to take you up on a test 
>> ride.  Future Riv Sister??
>>
>> Joe...Originally my Sam was racked and bagged up for touring that it 
>> wasn't really meant for.  The Atlantis (62 MUSA) has since taken that roll, 
>> and the Sam is on a diet, loosing the heavy back rack, basket, and soon the 
>> wheelset and tires.  Then, I believe, it will be similar weight-wise to a 
>> Platypus build that she would ride.
>>
>> Phillip...much appreciated points on weight saving choices as opposed to 
>> a standard Riv build.  If this quest goes forward, I'll definitely refer to 
>> these.  She rides with a Ortlieb handlebar bag and a small under seat bag 
>> for repair needs...that's it.  ( I have to carry anything else, like 
>> jackets and spare water bottles in a pannier)
>>
>>
>> Rusty Click
>> Pgh, PA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 8:57:38 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, a Platy should be on the lighter side, remember it's derived from 
>>> the Cheviot which was kind of a droptube Hillborne road bike with road 
>>> brakes. Grant changed the brakes and a couple frame details, but it still 
>>> should be closer to Hillborne and Homer than the touring/fire roads 
>>> category covered by Atlantis and Appaloosa. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:48:39 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 I don't mind a heavy-ish bike (I do own Rivendells, after all), but it 
 can be too heavy for me to lift onto a bike rack or over a log.  I never 
 weighed my Platy, but I built it up with lightish parts--Brevet rims, some 
 kind of Gravel King tires run tubeless, 1x with Garbaruk cassette (they 
 remove unneeded metal), SKS fenders and lighter Axiom rack.  One light 
 nylon bag.   I did spend "poundage" by installing a Brooks B68 and 
 Greenfield kickstand.   I can lift it, but it is heavier than my more bare 
 AHomerHilsen. 

 The *ride*, though, is light--light and breezy.  My old "lightened up" 
 Appaloosa probably weighed about the same, and it rode great, but not the 
 light and breezy ride of the Platy.

 If you're ever on the eastern side of the state, I'm in Philadelphia 
 and wouldn't mind letting your wife test my 55cm Platy.

 Roberta



 On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:43:34 PM UTC-5 Rusty Click wrote:

>
> Another question...How much does the Platypus weigh?  When I see 
> pictures, especially of Leah's beautiful bike, it seems to be exactly 
> what 
> my wife describes as the bike she wants.  When I offer to look for one to 
> replace the Tr*k we bought in desperation this past year, she says she 
> doesn't want that heavy of a bike.  She may be projecting my Atlantis and 
> Sam Hillborne builds onto the Platy.
>
> Rusty C.
> Pgh, PA
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
>> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
>> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Hugo. 
>>>
>>> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a 
>>> stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the 
>>> rear 
>>> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there 
>>> was 
>>> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
>>> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't 
>>> mar 
>>> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 
>>> hugohal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received 
 it in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long 

Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks B68, Terry Liberator X Gel Saddles

[Emily Guise]

UPDATE: The B68 is sold! The Terry saddle is still available. 

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 12:20:09 PM UTC-8 Emily Guise wrote:

> Thanks for that note, Abe! I was going off the measurements on the site I 
> bought it from, but I measured it this morning and it is indeed 230mm long 
> by 200mm wide.
>
> Emily
>
> On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Pancake  wrote:
>
> Hi Emily,
>
> The "short" B68 apparently measures:
> Length: 230mm
> Width: 200mm
> Though some sites list it at 235mm x 205mm. 
>
> Saddles both look to be in great shape - good luck with the sale. 
> Abe
>
>
> On Friday, 26 November 2021 at 20:11:38 UTC-8 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> Hey all, my apologies, I totally forgot to say that the B68 is the 
>> shorter S model, not the regular length. 
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:15:57 PM UTC-8 kay...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! Is the B68 still for sale?
>>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hello friends! After trying a bunch of saddles, I've finally found some 
>>> that work for me. Sadly, that doesn't include these two, so they're up for 
>>> sale. Both are lightly used and in excellent shape, with their original 
>>> packaging for each. Buyer would pay shipping costs. Lots of photos of both 
>>> saddles here 
>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8GENUxAvJS8OWdyZW1kOWFSa00?resourcekey=0-Ez3nEMrAHlGYLUvyqo9WpA=sharing>
>>> .
>>>
>>> If interested, email me off list at emilykguise (at) gmail (dot) com. 
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> *Black Brooks B68 Imperial.* This is NOS. I put two light coats of 
>>> Obenauf's on it but it is definitely not broken in as my butt can attest. 
>>> Textured leather top, steel rails, bag loops. Measures 260mm long and 210mm 
>>> wide. $75 plus shipping (I originally paid $95)
>>>
>>> *Terry Liberator X Gel.* Such a nice saddle but just too narrow for me. 
>>> Synthetic cover with a little bit of gel for a slightly softer saddle for 
>>> long rides (emphasis on slightly). Steel rails, measures 249mm long and 
>>> 163mm wide. Full specs on the Terry site here 
>>> <https://www.terrybicycles.com/Liberator-X-Gel_2>. $60 plus shipping (I 
>>> originally paid $82)
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Susie v. Clem Help Me Off The Fence

[Emily Guise]

These kinds of questions are so fascinating to me! I have a 2018 59cm Clem 
L, and I've test-ridden the medium (55cm?) size Gus (at the Rivelo event 
that Maxcr posted video of). I'm 5'9" and my PBH is 89, so similar to 
yours, Kiley, although I'm 195 lbs. My strongest impressions of both bikes 
are how comfortable they are. They both felt like they fit me right away. 
The Gus had albatross bars on it, and that seemed like the right choice. I 
was surprised the medium Gus fit me so well, when I am used to riding 
larger bikes, but it did. The bars were set about 2 inches above the saddle.

Since it was a test bike, I didn't get to ride it for long, but I did take 
it on a paved and unpaved trail and it felt very stable and was easy to 
control, which is the same feeling I have about my Clem L. They are both 
much faster than they seem- my Clem has a magic quality on a few Portland 
hills where it just seems to propel itself up, and I felt that on the Gus 
too. I also like the longer rear on both for stability when climbing steep 
hills, with or without full panniers.

At that time I wasn't really interested in a Gus or Susie because it did 
seem pretty redundant with my Clem, and I prefer the looks and ease of the 
super low step-through for city riding, although it was fun to ride the Gus 
and compare! Probably if I did more off-road riding they'd appeal more. 
However, I absolutely love the music decals and paint job on the 
Gus/Susies, though. They were really detailed and special. 

-Emily

On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:12:18 PM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:

> I recently found this video, from Grant's visit to Rivelo in 2019, he's 
> talking about the Hillibikes. It's long and a bit slow but it touches on a 
> lot of interesting facts that I didn't know: 
>
> Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTTqXluBEw
>
> Max
> On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 10:07:22 AM UTC-5 row.n.2...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Eric
>> I grew up in Galion..near Mansfield
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 7:58 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>>> Jon, I’m in Plain City, just NW of Columbus. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 20, 2021, Jon Dukeman  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Eric
>>>> Where in Ohio are you?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 3:47 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>>
>>> Leah, you picked a lovely time of the year to move to Michigan! Bundle 
>>>>> up!
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> in Ohio, but who ends up in MI all to frequently
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 6:34 PM Leah Peterson  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I know…big missed opportunity on my part - I absolutely should have 
>>>>>> weighed those bikes but I was like a kid at Christmas and got caught up 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> the shiny new bike excitement. Totally forgot about weighing the thing. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone mentioned (was it this thread?) about knowing how a bike 
>>>>>> feels weight-wise, and that’s true. I can tell the difference between 
>>>>>> adding and empty Saddlesack or not. I can probably tell the new seat 
>>>>>> post I 
>>>>>> put on my Platy is heavier if I go lift that bike right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m moving to Michigan in 3 weeks. Here’s hoping I make some 
>>>>>> Rivendell friends in my new state who will keep me accountable for this 
>>>>>> stuff! 藍
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry!
>>>>>> L
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2021, at 9:34 AM, aeroperf  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While we’re going "arg!"...
>>>>>> A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be 
>>>>>> answered just by hanging a bike on the scale at your LBS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was hoping Leah would weigh Peppermint Platy before and after her 
>>>>>> build, but I guess that’s OBE.
>>>>>> How about somebody go weigh their Clem, and somebody go weigh their 
>>>>>> Gus/Susie, and somebody go weigh their Platypus - and report back?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether bike weight actually makes a difference or not, there seems 
>>>>>> to be a conspiracy about not reporting Rivendell bike weights.
>>>>>> We’ve had people talk about getting them up a flight of stairs, or 
>>>>>> hanging them on a rack, but nobody actually puts out a number.
>>>>&g

Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks B68, Terry Liberator X Gel Saddles

[Emily Guise]

Thanks for that note, Abe! I was going off the measurements on the site I 
bought it from, but I measured it this morning and it is indeed 230mm long by 
200mm wide.

Emily

> On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Pancake  wrote:
> 
> Hi Emily,
> The "short" B68 apparently measures:
> Length: 230mm
> Width: 200mm
> Though some sites list it at 235mm x 205mm. 
> 
> Saddles both look to be in great shape - good luck with the sale. 
> Abe
> 
> 
>> On Friday, 26 November 2021 at 20:11:38 UTC-8 Emily Guise wrote:
>> Hey all, my apologies, I totally forgot to say that the B68 is the shorter S 
>> model, not the regular length. 
>> 
>> Emily
>> 
>>> On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:15:57 PM UTC-8 kay...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hi! Is the B68 still for sale?
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hello friends! After trying a bunch of saddles, I've finally found some 
>>>> that work for me. Sadly, that doesn't include these two, so they're up for 
>>>> sale. Both are lightly used and in excellent shape, with their original 
>>>> packaging for each. Buyer would pay shipping costs. Lots of photos of both 
>>>> saddles here.
>>>> 
>>>> If interested, email me off list at emilykguise (at) gmail (dot) com. 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Black Brooks B68 Imperial. This is NOS. I put two light coats of Obenauf's 
>>>> on it but it is definitely not broken in as my butt can attest. Textured 
>>>> leather top, steel rails, bag loops. Measures 260mm long and 210mm wide. 
>>>> $75 plus shipping (I originally paid $95)
>>>> 
>>>> Terry Liberator X Gel. Such a nice saddle but just too narrow for me. 
>>>> Synthetic cover with a little bit of gel for a slightly softer saddle for 
>>>> long rides (emphasis on slightly). Steel rails, measures 249mm long and 
>>>> 163mm wide. Full specs on the Terry site here. $60 plus shipping (I 
>>>> originally paid $82)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks B68, Terry Liberator X Gel Saddles

[Emily Guise]

Hey all, my apologies, I totally forgot to say that the B68 is the shorter 
S model, not the regular length. 

Emily

On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 7:15:57 PM UTC-8 kay...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi! Is the B68 still for sale?
>
> On Nov 26, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello friends! After trying a bunch of saddles, I've finally found some 
> that work for me. Sadly, that doesn't include these two, so they're up for 
> sale. Both are lightly used and in excellent shape, with their original 
> packaging for each. Buyer would pay shipping costs. Lots of photos of both 
> saddles here 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8GENUxAvJS8OWdyZW1kOWFSa00?resourcekey=0-Ez3nEMrAHlGYLUvyqo9WpA=sharing>
> .
>
> If interested, email me off list at emilykguise (at) gmail (dot) com. 
> Thanks!
>
> *Black Brooks B68 Imperial.* This is NOS. I put two light coats of 
> Obenauf's on it but it is definitely not broken in as my butt can attest. 
> Textured leather top, steel rails, bag loops. Measures 260mm long and 210mm 
> wide. $75 plus shipping (I originally paid $95)
>
> *Terry Liberator X Gel.* Such a nice saddle but just too narrow for me. 
> Synthetic cover with a little bit of gel for a slightly softer saddle for 
> long rides (emphasis on slightly). Steel rails, measures 249mm long and 
> 163mm wide. Full specs on the Terry site here 
> <https://www.terrybicycles.com/Liberator-X-Gel_2>. $60 plus shipping (I 
> originally paid $82)
>
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[RBW] FS: Brooks B68, Terry Liberator X Gel Saddles

[Emily Guise]

Hello friends! After trying a bunch of saddles, I've finally found some 
that work for me. Sadly, that doesn't include these two, so they're up for 
sale. Both are lightly used and in excellent shape, with their original 
packaging for each. Buyer would pay shipping costs. Lots of photos of both 
saddles here 

.

If interested, email me off list at emilykguise (at) gmail (dot) com. 
Thanks!

*Black Brooks B68 Imperial.* This is NOS. I put two light coats of 
Obenauf's on it but it is definitely not broken in as my butt can attest. 
Textured leather top, steel rails, bag loops. Measures 260mm long and 210mm 
wide. $75 plus shipping (I originally paid $95)

*Terry Liberator X Gel.* Such a nice saddle but just too narrow for me. 
Synthetic cover with a little bit of gel for a slightly softer saddle for 
long rides (emphasis on slightly). Steel rails, measures 249mm long and 
163mm wide. Full specs on the Terry site here 
. $60 plus shipping (I 
originally paid $82)



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[RBW] Re: New Wheels for Clem; need advice

[Emily Guise]

Leah, I do find my Clem heavier than my Platy- although some of that is due 
to my choice of accessories, like a rear rack that's heavier than it could 
be. I've put the Clem on bike camping and grocery/stuff hauling duty and it 
seems to shine more there. I even climbed up an 11% grade with it fully 
loaded this summer. It was so hard and I hated every minute but I DID IT. 
Clems are wonderfully capable machines!

On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 4:48:59 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Joyce,  
>
> There were quite a few of us who did the lightening up thing.  I think 
> you'll fine a thread of mine called something like lightening up Joe 
> Appaloosa, written probably June 2020.  There was another thread by Kiley 
> (I think that was her name) who wanted to lighten up her 60cm Cheviot years 
> ago.  None of us expect to have 20lb Rivs, but there are things we can do 
> to make the ride better and lighter.
>
> Though not as stout as the Clem L, reducing the weight on Joe A.  gained 
> me much more pleasurable for me to ride, pick up and transport (I had to 
> hoist the bike over my head to store it, pick it up for car rack, carry it 
> in and our of my breezeway for every ride, etc.  Weight is/was an issue.) . 
>besides the items you mentioned, I got a 1x drivetrain.  Not sure it was 
> worth the money, but I like it.  Some other practical lightening up is go 
> with a lighter rack.  Or no rack; just take a backpack (I have a rectangle 
> cheapo backpack that I could have used).   Mine is an Axiom and it weights 
> about 1 1/4  pounds less than a beautiful Nitto.  And, it's still nice 
> looking.  SKS fenders vs metal or no fenders. I traded my Brooks Flyer for 
> a Selle Anatomica, a big waxed Carradice bag for something smaller that 
> would do the job just fine.  also, I emptied my bag of not-really-needed" 
> items.  Clem nylon pedals, which don't dig into my shins.
>
> Analog cycles put me on Pacenti rims, but they take into account rider 
> weight, and GK Slicks, which are tubeless ready but can be used with tubes.
>
> I did not weigh my bike, but much of my weight savings was free.  I sold 
> my takeoffs.I estimate bike lost about  5 pounds.   It was noticeable.  
>
> Roberta
>
> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 1:24:46 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> After reading Leah's comments about upgrading her Clem with lighter 
>> wheels and other parts,  I'd like to do the same for my dark green Clem.  I 
>> use it for rural road riding when I'm not on my Platy, gravel trails, and 
>> hauling groceries.  It's got a rear rack and will have SKS fenders when I 
>> get around to installing them. I will also replace the original Bosco with 
>> the aluminum version.  
>>
>> I changed the tires from those horrible original Kendas to Big Bens and 
>> removed the front rack and basket which did wonders for handling.  Since I 
>> got it from Craigslist a few years ago I don't know much about the original 
>> wheels.  They have multi-colored spoke nipples and no identifying labels. 
>> The original owner bought it from a bike shop in Madison, WI.
>>
>> Any advice is welcome on what wheels to get or other upgrades I could 
>> make.  I don't want to go tubeless. Clem is 52cm with 650b wheels.   Thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report: 2021 Rivendell Bicycle Works Appreciation Pedalpalooza Ride

[Emily Guise]

Joyce, if you’re in the Portland area and can join that would be fantastic! I’d 
love to meet you IRL and we could #PlatyPose together 

-Emily

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:13 PM, JAS  wrote:
> Emily and Greg, thank you for organizing this ride and for sharing the 
> news/photos.  I will look forward to your next event; I'd love to join you on 
> my Platypus wearing wool on a cool fall day. 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 10:13:17 AM UTC-7 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>> 
>> The Jackalope!
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> Thank you for sharing the photos and therefore letting us look in on this 
>>> fun event! I would have loved to attend - looks like you guys had a nice 
>>> turnout and a great time. Two Platypuses and a coral Hunq! Wow!
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 9:21:50 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>>> This past Saturday, my partner Greg and I led the RBW Appreciation 
>>>>> Pedalpalooza Ride in Portland, OR. Pedalpalooza is a regular summer event 
>>>>> here and it's basically fun bike rides about anything, led by anyone. 
>>>>> Usually it's only in June but this year it was June-August. It has been 
>>>>> so fun this summer and a great way to feel connected to the bike 
>>>>> community during COVID. It's meant a lot to me this year.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg  and I noticed there wasn't a Riv-themed ride like there had been in 
>>>>>  years past, so we decided to lead one! It was so hot and muggy on  
>>>>> Saturday, so we weren't sure how many people would come, but I was so  
>>>>> happy to see about 30 folks waiting for us at the start point in Creston  
>>>>> Park. After saying hi to people and admiring bikes, we had a round of  
>>>>> Riv trivia before heading to Coffee Beer for refreshments. Then we biked  
>>>>> along the Willamette River, with another trivia stop on the Esplanade.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meandering  up to N Williams Ave, we had a shade stop at Dawson Park, 
>>>>> then rode up  to Golden Pliers for refreshments and to visit our local 
>>>>> Riv dealer.  Kevin and Becky are absolutely the best and they were so 
>>>>> excited to see  all the bikes. I was super excited to cool off in the AC 
>>>>> in the shop for  a bit!
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point, we were down to about 10 people (as expected-we'd ridden 
>>>>> about 9 miles in mid-90s mugginess) but we had our last round of trivia 
>>>>> and then a few of us rode  to the Skidmore Bluffs to enjoy our drinks and 
>>>>> hang out in the shade.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Overall  everything went so much better than I hoped! Riv people are 
>>>>> really so nice, and this group was no exception. I got to meet a lot of 
>>>>> folks IRL  that I knew from online, and even the leader of previous 
>>>>> Riv-themed  rides. Greg and I are already planning on doing another Riv 
>>>>> ride in the fall and I really hope it will not be so hot so we can all 
>>>>> wear our wool. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Link to check out photos of the ride!
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[RBW] Ride Report: 2021 Rivendell Bicycle Works Appreciation Pedalpalooza Ride

[Emily Guise]

This past Saturday, my partner Greg and I led the RBW Appreciation 
Pedalpalooza Ride in Portland, OR. Pedalpalooza is a regular summer event 
here and it's basically fun bike rides about anything, led by anyone. 
Usually it's only in June but this year it was June-August. It has been so 
fun this summer and a great way to feel connected to the bike community 
during COVID. It's meant a lot to me this year.

Greg  and I noticed there wasn't a Riv-themed ride like there had been in  
years past, so we decided to lead one! It was so hot and muggy on  
Saturday, so we weren't sure how many people would come, but I was so  
happy to see about 30 folks waiting for us at the start point in Creston  
Park. After saying hi to people and admiring bikes, we had a round of  Riv 
trivia before heading to Coffee Beer for refreshments. Then we biked  along 
the Willamette River, with another trivia stop on the Esplanade. 

Meandering  up to N Williams Ave, we had a shade stop at Dawson Park, then 
rode up  to Golden Pliers for refreshments and to visit our local Riv 
dealer.  Kevin and Becky are absolutely the best and they were so excited 
to see  all the bikes. I was super excited to cool off in the AC in the 
shop for  a bit!

At this point, we were down to about 10 people (as expected-we'd ridden 
about 9 miles in mid-90s mugginess) but we had our last round of trivia and 
then a few of us rode  to the Skidmore Bluffs to enjoy our drinks and hang 
out in the shade. 

Overall  everything went so much better than I hoped! Riv people are really 
so nice, and this group was no exception. I got to meet a lot of folks IRL  
that I knew from online, and even the leader of previous Riv-themed  rides. 
Greg and I are already planning on doing another Riv ride in the fall and I 
really hope it will not be so hot so we can all wear our wool. :)

Link to check out photos of the ride! 


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Re: [RBW] Basket shop sack Brompton bags

[Emily Guise]

As a Brompton owner, I'd agree that the folding basket is the most flexible 
way to go for carrying loads. I regularly stuff mine with very full grocery 
bags or all the things for an afternoon by the river and it accommodates a 
surprising amount. Mine is probably about 7 years old and has been really 
durable. 

Phillip, I think this bag has replaced the T-bag: 
https://www.clevercycles.com/brompton-borough-roll-top-bag-grey.html

Emily

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 7:18:52 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'd love to find something like the Brompton Touring Bag which seems to 
> have disappeared?
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 12:57:00 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> The Brompton folding basket bag is my most used Brompton bag by far. I 
>> have the older design and it swallows a lot of groceries including odd 
>> shaped items. 
>>
>> I may splurge for the new model since I do like that it has a zippered 
>> pocket on the outside. 
>>
>> Robert Tilley 
>> San Diego, CA 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Aug 16, 2021, at 10:11 PM, J L  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > All, 
>> > 
>> > Back forever ago when I first mounted a front basket to my Saluki, then 
>> CB-0 (x4), then… well basically every bike I have had was improved by 
>> adding an easy access front bag inside a basket. I still have a wald medium 
>> with green shopsack in it. 
>> > 
>> > Is there a Brompton bag that replicates this? Do I need to get a custom 
>> rack made and zip tie a basket to it? Anyone want to earn some money 
>> modifying a rack to allow a bolted on front carrier block catch? 
>> > 
>> > Goal - fit a full size grocery bag, full of odd shaped stuff that make 
>> the sides stick out here and there, into a bike mounted object. What are my 
>> options? 
>> > 
>> > Cheers 
>> > Jason 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Need Platypus tire advice

[Emily Guise]

Joyce, so glad you were able to get those Shikoros! I have them on my 60cm 
Platy and have been very pleasantly surprised by how nice they feel on the 
road; they seem to really smooth out the rough spots. So far I haven't had 
a flat in a month of ownership even though our streets are full of glass 
and potholes. Two thumbs up from me!

-Emily

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 11:41:11 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Garth, you're a life-saver!  I got busy right away and ordered the tires.  
> Thanks so much for the link.
>
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 3:01:55 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Joyce,  Enjoy the ride !!!  Shikoro 700x42 ..  
>> https://takeahikeshop.com/products/soma-shikoro-700c-k-tire-black-brown?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:51:54 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, what casing did you select for your RH tires?  Standard, 
>>> extralight or endurance?  I'm impressed with your mileage to flat ratio.
>>>
>>> Garth, you're right!  It's ultimately about life and enjoying the ride. 
>>> I"ll bet you've read "Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Performance" by 
>>> Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi.  If not, you might enjoy it.
>>>
>>> Joe, I also found that the Kenda Kwik tires that came on my Clem rode 
>>> like bricks, though I didn't know how bad they were until I switched to Big 
>>> Bens.  I have Schwalbe Marathons on my Bike Friday for touring for the flat 
>>> protection.  My hands aren't as strong as they used to be so it's often a 
>>> struggle to get the tire back on the rim.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all for continuing this conversation about tires.  I 
>>> appreciate the opportunity to learn more about bikes via your experience.  
>>> As far as my tire decision goes,  I'm currently leaning toward the folding 
>>> Shikoro 700 x 38 due to availability.  I don't know if the 42mm would be 
>>> better, but can't find them in the folding (lighter) version.
>>>
>>> --Joyce
>>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 3:13:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was riding 70 to 100 miles per week back then with 3 to 5 bikes, most 
>>>> on the commuter and allrounder, mostly on pavement but say 1/3 dirt.
>>>>
>>>> Oh: One big exception to the "flatting fast tires": Big Apples. They 
>>>> rolled surprisingly well for their bulk, but got perhaps 1/3 of the flats 
>>>> per unit distance of the other tires; in order of flat-prone-ness, ie from 
>>>> more flats to less flats per unit: 26 X 1.25 Paselas, non-TG (and yet for 
>>>> a 
>>>> number of years these were my commuting tires and got the most miles); 
>>>> Conti GPs, Michelin Pro Races, Specialised Turbos (yep, fewer flats than 
>>>> the Paselas); 26 X 1.35 and 700C X 35 Kojaks; 26 and 29" 2.35" Big Apples).
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 5:06 PM Patrick Moore  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Each to his or her own. It depends on what you prefer. Many ride stiff 
>>>>> tires that don't flat; pre-sealant, I preferred -- no, really, really 
>>>>> much 
>>>>> preferred --  to fix over 150 flats per year (2 boxes of 100 Remas per 
>>>>> year, more or less) instead of riding tires that felt slow. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately, modern sealants even here in goatheadland allow one to 
>>>>> ride the lighest, thinnest tires with hardly any flats and resulting 
>>>>> pleasure: in tubes for higher pressures, tubeless for lower pressures.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, we get very little rain; and also, 2 spare tubes per bike 
>>>>> usually let me get home before I had to break out the patch kit (also one 
>>>>> for each bike); plus of course top quality pumps. Again, each to his own; 
>>>>> this was my own.
>>>>>
>>>>> * For me, an unscientific but still empirical division at about 45 or 
>>>>> 50 psi.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 2:51 PM Tom Wyland  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Should I feel bad about my 780g Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard tires?  
>>>>>> Sure keeps the flats away when riding on the street. 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Congrats Bones and Tom! So happy the Platys are starting to arrive, and I
can't wait to see more photos of builds.

Bones, I really like the tanwall tires with the lime-olive color (I have
them too). The colors really complement each other in a nice earthy way, to
my eye.

-Emily

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 7:56 AM Ray Varella  wrote:

> Those are really great looking bikes.
> As much as I don’t need one, I could justify buying one and eventually
> giving it to my niece.
>
> The mermaid is beautiful but that lime-olive would be my choice.
>
> Keep the builds coming so we can live vicariously through your new bikes.
>
> Ray
>
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 at 5:11:27 PM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I’m in love with the look. Keep the Platy pics coming. Happy Surprise
>> Platy Birthday!
>> Kate- Trenton, NJ
>> Still waiting on my Mermaid Platy from RBW
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2021, at 19:18, JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Very nice.  This is becoming my favorite color.
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:04 PM, Bones  wrote:
>>
>> Surprised my wife with a Platypus for her 40th birthday. Came today and I
>> managed to put it together in about three hours between preparing food and
>> changing diapers for my little roomates. I've been hoarding parts for a
>> while and I built the wheels ahead of time. Maybe tomorrow I will have time
>> to add the rack, basket and lights. She too has a Clem L, which will likely
>> now be used as a dedicated trail bike. I don't think the bike could fit her
>> any better. I look forward to seeing how everyone else's turns out!
>>
>> Bones
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

My 60 cm has 48mm Soma Shikoro tires on it, with wide SKS fenders ( I think the 
62s?) No problems with braking or brake clearance. 

-Emily

> On Apr 23, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
> 
> Joel, I forgot to say - Atlas 650b rims
> 
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:26:43 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:
>> 
>> Joel, I have the 2018 Cheviot - it fits 50mm Conti baseball tires without 
>> fenders, I currently have 42mm Panaracer Paselas with SKS fenders on it. 
>> Tektro R559 sidepull brakes with Koolstop ebike brake pads. 
>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Thanks - I have one of those too! Then there's this rather expensive but 
>>> lovely thing;
>>> 
>>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=94457
>>> 
>>> Which gets horrible reviews;
>>> 
>>> https://off.road.cc/content/review/pumps-and-co2-inflators/fabric-megabar-dual-valve-mini-pump-review-6599
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>> Phillip, my 55cm Cheviot is also 16” and fits the No 2 Zefal pump that Riv 
>>>> sell. Make sure to turn the pump head from HP to X before trying to 
>>>> compress it into position
>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 8:46:38 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well that takes the Topeak Master Blaster off the table then!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for checking.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> 16" on the nose from tip to edge of HT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 5:55:59 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Would someone mind running a tape measure for the pump mounting boss to 
>>>>>>> head tube?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, what are people's thoughts on fenders for their Plats?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:55:18 PM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks Leah. I have definitely narrowed it down to a Sam or an 
>>>>>>>> Appaloosa for myself, in that order. A Sam in Mermaid would probably 
>>>>>>>> be my ultimate Riv. Nothing against the mixte, I'm just kind of a 
>>>>>>>> double diamond purist.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 9:11:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm greatly enjoying reading your impressions and seeing the details 
>>>>>>>>> in the photos. Will and Maia summed it up well - I've thought all 
>>>>>>>>> those same thoughts about my own Platypus. I also really think this 
>>>>>>>>> is the most sparkle Riv has ever put in a paint job and we are all 
>>>>>>>>> loving it. Sparklepus or SparklePlaty. That's the new hashtag!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Will, I think you should snag a 60 mermaid Platy for 
>>>>>>>>> yourself. Why not? This IS the best bike in the Riv line, you know...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-7 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maia's Mermaid 55CM Details Part1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

I am picking mine up from Golden Pliers (OR) tomorrow morning!!! Will report 
back on the maiden voyage 拾

-Emily

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> 
> Excitement all around!
> 
> I know that one dealer in Canada and Golden Pliers (OR? WA?) got their 
> deliveries.  Analog Cycles (VT) hasn't gotten theirs yet.  Not sure that 
> helps with your question, but I'd expect dealer orders would be the first 
> ones out the door, followed by non-prepped frames.
> 
> I'm looking forward to everyone's build and ride report.
> 
> Roberta
> 
>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 2:13:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> FYI: I have a frameset/HS/BB only order & have not heard anything either
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 10:01:15 AM UTC-7 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>> Wondering the same as Tom. Trying to be patient and not interrupt the 
>>> busyness at RBW World Headquarters... but... Coming up on almost 3 weeks 
>>> without any indication of what's happening.  Sure would be nice to know 
>>> something other than my "Your order is confirmed" 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 8:48:39 AM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>> Has anyone heard when they will start shipping out the non-prepped frames? 
>>>>  I figured someone else might have made a call or asked.
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Roberta, I think it will probably be ready at the end of next week or so. I
totally forgot to ask in all the excitement. I went with a soft orange bar
tape and red grips, but I do think that purple would look good too!

Joyce, Golden Pliers is the BEST. Becky, Kevin, Gram, and all of the other
people working there are so knowledgeable and kind. I never feel talked
down to or brushed off and they take the time to answer all my questions
thoroughly. Gram (who is in the background of the first photo) built a dyno
wheel for my Clem and did not sigh impatiently even when I brought in a rim
and hub with two different spoke counts (I had forgotten to double check!).
They're a true gem of Portland bike shops.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 9:50 PM JAS  wrote:

> Congratulations, Emily! I'm so happy for you and am looking forward to
> hearing about your impressions of the bike once you get it out on a ride.
> I was visiting my brother who lives near Portland, so I went to Golden
> Pliers on Sunday.  What a great shop!  Kevin and Becky are such nice
> folks.  I was able to buy a couple more parts for my mermaid Platy from
> them.
>
> #RivSisters,
> Joyce
>
> On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 9:27:17 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> How exciting!  Emily, I cannot wait to hear about your first rides.  Did
>> they have at ETA for it to be in your hands?
>>
>> I'm on the east coast and not close to Analog Cycles who is building my
>> bike, so I'll have to live vicariously thru the new Platy owners in the
>> west until I can make the trip to VT.
>>
>> I think purple and Lime/olive make a sophisticated color pairing.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 12:17:30 AM UTC-4 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> Yes I can confirm they did! I dropped off parts for my build today and
>>> got to admire my lovely new frame. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> It appears Golden Pliers got their Platypus shipment:
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 2:35 PM, Emily Guise  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I’m waiting on a 60cm from Golden Pliers here in Portland. When I asked
>>> if he’d been given an ETA on frame arrival from Riv, Kevin the owner hadn’t
>>> gotten one, so no idea when mine will arrive. I’m looking at it as a nice
>>> spring surprise :)
>>>
>>> -Emily
>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Since you're not getting any response to this question (nobody has a 60
>>> yet) I thought I'd try an experiment. I have 53cm Susie which uses the same
>>> seatlug and post that would come on a Platy. With my Brooks B17 set at
>>> about 70cm you can visualize on the tape measure how much post would be
>>> left showing on a 60cm seattube. Taking into account that the 60cm number
>>> lands at the bottom of the lug curve and you have to allow room for the
>>> pointy parts, my rough guess is that big Platy would work down to a 72cm
>>> SH. Just keep in mind this leaves no room for a saddlebag, but if you can
>>> live without that and the reach to the bars works, you're in business for
>>> that slammed look.
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

I’m waiting on a 60cm from Golden Pliers here in Portland. When I asked if he’d 
been given an ETA on frame arrival from Riv, Kevin the owner hadn’t gotten one, 
so no idea when mine will arrive. I’m looking at it as a nice spring surprise :)

-Emily

> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Since you're not getting any response to this question (nobody has a 60 yet) 
> I thought I'd try an experiment. I have 53cm Susie which uses the same 
> seatlug and post that would come on a Platy. With my Brooks B17 set at about 
> 70cm you can visualize on the tape measure how much post would be left 
> showing on a 60cm seattube. Taking into account that the 60cm number lands at 
> the bottom of the lug curve and you have to allow room for the pointy parts, 
> my rough guess is that big Platy would work down to a 72cm SH. Just keep in 
> mind this leaves no room for a saddlebag, but if you can live without that 
> and the reach to the bars works, you're in business for that slammed look. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Leah, I think what Amtrak is referring to is overall length instead of 
wheelbase, because the bikes are hung up on hooks inside the baggage car. 
But that's still helpful to know, thank you!

Thanks Joe and Phillip for your help on those numbers. I suspected it would 
be a bit too long (one downside of the cushy ride) but was still holding 
out hope.

-Emily

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:54:35 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's a 50cm in the pictures, overall length = 6' or 72" already as 
> shown. Worst case a 60 would be another 5% give or take, so around 75".
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:43:11 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The length you're getting is about 72 inches. I'm getting 74 on my 54cm 
>> custom and 53cm Susie, both with 650B wheels. I think it's safe to assume a 
>> 60cm Platy with 700C wheels will be in the range of my bikes, so the Amtrak 
>> plan is probably not workable. I'm curious what the full length of Leah's 
>> 55 Platy is. 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:21:18 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a draftsperson in house? Oh yes...
>>>
>>> Extrapolating the chain guard (which I have here & can measure) I was 
>>> able to scale up one of the online pictures. Metric and old money too, 
>>> should be pretty close allowing for some lens distortion.
>>>
>>> [image: Plat Dims.png]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 3:09:15 PM UTC-5 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
>>>> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions 
>>>> for 
>>>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info 
>>>> on the Riv site. 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles 
>>>>>> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two more days, my friends...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub 
>>>>>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will 
>>>>>> enjoy those far longer than the pain of the cost of parts to achieve it. 
>>>>>> It's a matter of proportion, as we were discussing on a separate thread, 
>>>>>> you can save 4lbs choosing the right (or wrong) tire, that's the real 
>>>>>> deal 
>>>>>> right there. The weight-weenie really only comes into play when you're 
>>>>>> spending $100s or $1,000s to save a handful of grams, sensible choices 
>>>>>> will 
>>>>>> deliver a much more enjoyable bike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 200 grams is sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to 
>>>>>> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real 
>>>>>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads 
>>>>>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get 
>>>>>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to 
>>>>>>> make the right 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

gt; and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead 
>>>> of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but 
>>>> it’s passable. 
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for 
>>>> you - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
>>>> Leah
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>>>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>>>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>>>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>>>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The 
>>>> steeper 
>>>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>>>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>>>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>>>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
>>>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my 
>>>> buying 
>>>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
>>>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
>>>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an 
>>>> Appaloosa? My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or 
>>>> Platy could handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of 
>>>> power. Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you both!
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan P.
>>>> Seattle, WA 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had 
>>>>> a 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge 
>>>>> higher 
>>>>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing 
>>>>> where 
>>>>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>>>>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>>>>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>>>>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>>>>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>>>>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do 
>>>>> would 
>>>>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to 
>>>>>> call up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers 
>>>>>> could 
>>>>>> not actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> is for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me 
>>>>>> and I 
>>>>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
>>>>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
>>>>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and 
>>>>>> he 
>>>>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal 
>>>>>> top 
>>>>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena 
>>>>>> Vista 
>>>>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience 
>>>>>> with 
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be awesome. 

Emily

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I am 
> so excited to see it and get it all built up!
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> 
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>> 
>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>> 
>> Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm PST. 
>> You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're going to 
>> finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even though 
>> you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was just 
>>> a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
>>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
>>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
>>>> and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>>>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
>>>>> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
>>>>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
>>>>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
>>>>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
>>>>> money than the big name parts makers. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>>>>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
>>>>>>> prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
>>>>>>> the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>>>>>> final design. So, the container must have arrived and that means 
>>>>>>> Platypuses will be dotting the American countryside in the next few 
>>>>>>> weeks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
>>>>>>> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets 
>>>>>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
>>>>>>> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Leah: Greg has chosen to go down the single speed route instead and is 
currently building up a surly cross check, so for now we only have one matching 
set of bikes. :)

Pancake: some lovely photos the Cheviot! I think it is something about the head 
tube length that makes it look extra long. But that orange is just so dang 
gorgeous. 

Joe: I also said I wasn’t going to get a new bike, and then the stimulus check 
came thru and the photos of Platypuses started going around. I was helpless in 
the face of such stunning bicycle beauty. 

John: can’t wait until Golden Pliers gets their shipment! What an exciting day 
that’ll be, and obviously my cry for a photo of a 60cm lime olive frame was 
heard, so thank you for alerting the Riv-Powers-That-Be.

Emily

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
> 
> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will love 
> the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a chance.
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen in 
>> the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are a 
>> month early! 
>> 
>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 
>> 
>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
>> bike" Bernard
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
>>>> and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>>>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
>>>>> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
>>>>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
>>>>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
>>>>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
>>>>> money than the big name parts makers. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>>>>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
>>>>>>> prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
>>>>>>> the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>>>>>> final design. So, the container must have arrived and that means 
>>>>>>> Platypuses will be dotting the American countryside in the next few 
>>>>>>> weeks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
>>>>>>> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets 
>>>>>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
>>>>>>> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bi

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
awkward compared to the smaller sizes.

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: The 
> rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace mech 
> in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with a 
> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
> the big name parts makers. 
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same size 
>> if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
>>> prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in the 
>>> wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the final 
>>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses will 
>>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>>
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
>>> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets more 
>>> bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
>>> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:

 


 Here’s a Platypus Easter twist

 Ray
 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Leah,
> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm 
> too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
> Doug
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
>> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>>
>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
>> Platys for us to admire!
>>
>> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Leah,
>>>
>>> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>>>
>>> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
>>> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>>>
 I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
 Protection Program now.

 On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
 wrote:

> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and bags 
> is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the kids 
> would 
> say, it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the 
> parts/paint 
> picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro shop that put it 
> all 
> together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! 
>
> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" Bernard
>
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> (This message should have preceded my photos, but it was too 
>> large and was not sent. Since the file is too large, you can see it 
>> on 
>> Instagram or the Facebook groups if you like.)
>>
>> Well, while we wait for the ship to be unloaded (MONDAY! 拾), I 
>> made a video of my Platy because...IT’S FINALLY COMPLETE. I was 
>> waiting on 
>> a bunch of rose anodized parts and a Randi Jo bag in custom colors 
>> and all 
>> of those things arrived on Thursday and I whisked the whole getup to 
>> the 
>> bike shop for assembly. Here’s a video that may not show up. So 
>> after that, 
>> I’ll send pics.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:

Re: [RBW] FS: Microshift thumbies, kickstands, Shimano dynamo hub

[Emily Guise]

UPDATE TO THE UPDATE: All parts are sold. Thanks so much, everyone!

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 8:23 PM Emily Guise  wrote:

> UPDATE: Clem stand and Microshift Thumbies are spoken for.
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 5:47 PM Emily Guise  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks! The parts bin clear out continues. I have the following for
>> sale (photos here
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC>
>> ):
>>
>> Microshift Thumbies set from my Clem Jr., I replaced them with Silvers.
>> Used for about two years. - $40 shipped
>>
>> Shimano Nexus HB-NX50 dynamo hub. Standard 3W, 36 hole. It's about 6
>> years old; I had it on a bike for about 4 years and never had any issues.
>> Just tested it and it works great.
>> $35 shipped
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. kickstand: I replaced it with a two-legged Pletscher, so
>> don't need this anymore. Willing to let this go for the price of shipping.
>>
>> Black two-legged kickstand: This is brand new and never mounted. Not sure
>> of the weight limit, but I would say it would probably be better for
>> lighter rather than super heavy bikes. It has adjustable legs and swings up
>> out of the way. $15 shipped
>>
>> Post below or email emilykguise [AT] gmail [DOT] com if interested or if
>> you have any questions. Again, photos are here
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC>.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Emily
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Tektro 559 brakes and Nitto Technomic stem

[Emily Guise]

UPDATE: Tektro brakes have been claimed.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 5:33 PM Emily Guise  wrote:

> Shoot, forgot to say that shipping would be around $13, shipped Priority
> Mail.
>
> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 5:26:57 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I'm doing a bit of a parts bin clean out, and I have a set of
>> Tektro 559 nutted brakes and a Nitto Technomic stem that I've never used
>> and I'd love to pass them on to someone else to use. Pictures are here.
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC?usp=sharing>
>>
>> The stem is a 22.2mm (1") quill and fits 26.0 handlebars. I think the
>> reach is around 80mm and the height is about 150mm above the mark. $30
>>
>> The brakes are silver ones that bolt on, caliper sidepulls. More
>> specifics are in the photos. $50
>>
>> Post here if interested or email me at emilykguise [AT] gmail [dot] com.
>> Happy to answer any questions too. Thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Microshift thumbies, kickstands, Shimano dynamo hub

[Emily Guise]

UPDATE: Clem stand and Microshift Thumbies are spoken for.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 5:47 PM Emily Guise  wrote:

> Hi folks! The parts bin clear out continues. I have the following for sale
> (photos here
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC>
> ):
>
> Microshift Thumbies set from my Clem Jr., I replaced them with Silvers.
> Used for about two years. - $40 shipped
>
> Shimano Nexus HB-NX50 dynamo hub. Standard 3W, 36 hole. It's about 6 years
> old; I had it on a bike for about 4 years and never had any issues. Just
> tested it and it works great.
> $35 shipped
>
> Clem Smith Jr. kickstand: I replaced it with a two-legged Pletscher, so
> don't need this anymore. Willing to let this go for the price of shipping.
>
> Black two-legged kickstand: This is brand new and never mounted. Not sure
> of the weight limit, but I would say it would probably be better for
> lighter rather than super heavy bikes. It has adjustable legs and swings up
> out of the way. $15 shipped
>
> Post below or email emilykguise [AT] gmail [DOT] com if interested or if
> you have any questions. Again, photos are here
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC>.
>
>
> Thanks!
> Emily
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[RBW] FS: Microshift thumbies, kickstands, Shimano dynamo hub

[Emily Guise]

Hi folks! The parts bin clear out continues. I have the following for sale 
(photos here 
<https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC>
):

Microshift Thumbies set from my Clem Jr., I replaced them with Silvers. 
Used for about two years. - $40 shipped

Shimano Nexus HB-NX50 dynamo hub. Standard 3W, 36 hole. It's about 6 years 
old; I had it on a bike for about 4 years and never had any issues. Just 
tested it and it works great. 
$35 shipped

Clem Smith Jr. kickstand: I replaced it with a two-legged Pletscher, so 
don't need this anymore. Willing to let this go for the price of shipping. 

Black two-legged kickstand: This is brand new and never mounted. Not sure 
of the weight limit, but I would say it would probably be better for 
lighter rather than super heavy bikes. It has adjustable legs and swings up 
out of the way. $15 shipped

Post below or email emilykguise [AT] gmail [DOT] com if interested or if 
you have any questions. Again, photos are here 
<https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC>. 


Thanks!
Emily


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[RBW] Re: FS: Tektro 559 brakes and Nitto Technomic stem

[Emily Guise]

Shoot, forgot to say that shipping would be around $13, shipped Priority 
Mail.

On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 5:26:57 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Hi all, I'm doing a bit of a parts bin clean out, and I have a set of 
> Tektro 559 nutted brakes and a Nitto Technomic stem that I've never used 
> and I'd love to pass them on to someone else to use. Pictures are here. 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cOZWI92-2OpVHHPnDnkj05GZ1JZUGslC?usp=sharing>
>
> The stem is a 22.2mm (1") quill and fits 26.0 handlebars. I think the 
> reach is around 80mm and the height is about 150mm above the mark. $30
>
> The brakes are silver ones that bolt on, caliper sidepulls. More specifics 
> are in the photos. $50
>
> Post here if interested or email me at emilykguise [AT] gmail [dot] com. 
> Happy to answer any questions too. Thanks!
>

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[RBW] FS: Tektro 559 brakes and Nitto Technomic stem

[Emily Guise]

Hi all, I'm doing a bit of a parts bin clean out, and I have a set of 
Tektro 559 nutted brakes and a Nitto Technomic stem that I've never used 
and I'd love to pass them on to someone else to use. Pictures are here. 


The stem is a 22.2mm (1") quill and fits 26.0 handlebars. I think the reach 
is around 80mm and the height is about 150mm above the mark. $30

The brakes are silver ones that bolt on, caliper sidepulls. More specifics 
are in the photos. $50

Post here if interested or email me at emilykguise [AT] gmail [dot] com. 
Happy to answer any questions too. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Big Rear Rack & Trangia Cookset

[Emily Guise]

Hi Tim, I’m interested in the Trangia. Have always wanted one!  I’ll send you a 
PM. 

Emily 

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[RBW] Re: FS Bosco Bullmoose, Silver Wide Low -- For your new Clem L frameset!

[Emily Guise]

I’m very interested in the Boscos! Sending you a PM. 

Emily

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[RBW] Re: #ClemWaiting

[Emily Guise]

My boyfriend is replacing his Disc Trucker with a Clem L 52cm. On test 
rides, he said the Clem climbed better and accelerated faster, while still 
being able to carry a lot. That's been his main complaint with the 
Trucker-it's great for carrying a lot, but is tortoise-like. Since we 
mostly ride around town, with a few longer trips (20-40 miles) a year for 
camping, I think he's going to find the Clem fits the bill better. 

Anxiously #ClemWaiting until the bike comes in to Rivelo and then we will 
BOTH have them! :)

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 3:10:25 PM UTC-7, PaulS wrote:
>
> Anyone have experience with the Clem L and a Surly Trucker?  I am thinking 
> of replacing my wife's Trucker with a Clem.  It's pertty much used for 
> shorter rides around town and 10-20 mile rides occsionally.
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Small Saddlesack, Brooks cambium

[Emily Guise]

Hi Keith, I know that John Bennett at Rivelo <http://www.rivelopdx.com/> 
here in Portland has two or three small saddlesacks for sale. I just bought 
a medium from him and was considering a small. He responds quickly to 
emails and I'm sure he'd be happy to help you out! His email is 
benn...@rivelopdx.com. 

Emily


On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 8:27:18 AM UTC-7, Keith Weaver wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm thinking I'd like to try a saddlesack for my 54 cm Riv Road. Of 
> course, it looks like the now discontinued small size would be the one for 
> me. I have about 9.5" between my saddle loops and the rear tire, so the new 
> BagBoy won't really work for me. Let me know if you have a Small size 
> saddlesack for sale.
>
> The bike is currently running an older Sella Anatomica saddle that is at 
> the end of the adjuster bolt and still feels kind of saggy. I think I may 
> eventually get it re-covered, but in the meantime, I've been interested in 
> a Cambium saddle for quite a while. Does anyone have a Cambium sitting 
> around that they would part with?
>
> On a related note, these parts are for the Road frame that I previously 
> posted about regarding my Albatross bars situation. It wasn't very 
> comfortable with those bars, likely due to the cramped cockpit and 
> relatively harsh ride of the Ruffy Tuffy tires when sitting up so straight. 
> This weekend I mounted a set of 46 cm Noodles that I bought from a list 
> member as a complete cockpit, with Tallux stem, Tektro brake levers, 
> Suntour bar-ends and multi-color bar tape. I rode it both days this 
> weekend, and I think I like this bike a lot more as a drop-bar bike. I'm 
> considering going for the Compass Chinook Pass EL tires once I wear out the 
> Tuffys, or just get tired of them. Now I just need to figure out what frame 
> I should get to put my Albatross cockpit on!
>
> Cheers,
> Keith
>

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[RBW] Re: Stockholm/Amsterdam/Copenhagen recommendations/meet-ups?

[Emily Guise]

Oh man, that sounds like so much fun! I was in Amsterdam this past October, 
and really enjoyed visiting the countryside on a tour with We Bike Amsterdam 
<https://www.webikeamsterdam.com/>. Bike rental comes with the tour. We 
took the free ferry to Amsterdam Noord from Amsterdam Centraal station, and 
then biked through the suburbs to Landsmeer and had cake. It was so 
peaceful biking by the canals, with folks fishing and boating. We stopped 
at the Krijtmolen d’Admiraal windmill, built in 1792, which is a free, 
operational windmill, and had excellent interpreters for people like me who 
want to ask a *lot *of questions. The outside was made of thatched reeds, 
which absolutely blew my mind. Apparently they have problems with folks 
pulling the reeds out for souvenirs, and it's hard to find folks who can 
re-thatch anymore. 

My favorite restaurant was Omelegg <http://omelegg.com/> in the city center 
at Nieuwebrugsteeg 24. As their name suggests, they do pretty much all 
omelets, and wow, they were GOOD. I live in the land of brunch (Portland) 
and I regularly want to go back and eat at Omelegg. 

Emily

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 1:03:20 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> My wife and I are heading out to Stockholm/Amsterdam/Copenhagen during 
> spring break.
> Any recommendations or suggestions on things we can do? We had interest in 
> just renting bikes out and exploring. 
>
> Manny Acosta
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[RBW] Re: FS: Summer'Sunset Cockpit-Bit SALE

[Emily Scott]

Hiya gang, please click here for Photos 
<https://www.flickr.com/gp/44792891@N06/95zU7g>. 

Please send payments to scottaqua...@mac.com.

Stem and shifters are sold.

Thank you!
Emily

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[RBW] FS: Summer'Sunset Cockpit-Bit SALE

[Emily Scott]

Hello all! So, a certain automotive matter has come to my attention, 
motivating me to clear out some shiny things that ought to be in use 
anyway. 


Unless noted otherwise, all items have been gently used, or 
mounted-and-removed and thus not used, and are in totally great shape. 
(Photographic evidence is on the way, but you're also certainly welcome to 
request photos.) Please message me privately with your interest.


Paypal. Buyer to pay actual shipping, which will be USPS from zip 20003. 
(In DC, pickup for free!)


Paul Thumbies

  $55, pair. 

  26.0 dia./road bar

Shimano Shifters

  $40, pair. 

  9 speed, index.

Tektro RX-4.1 Inverse Brake Levers

  $15. 

  Canti/center, not v.

Shimano BL-M421 V-Brake Levers

  $15. 

  22.2 (brand new in box, includes cables)

Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem

  $50. 

  26.0 clamp, 8cm extension, 11 cm max insert height. Faint marring.

Nitto B115 Handlebars

  $25.

  44 cm wide. 


A new widget will not aid in this particular situation, thus I am not 
likely to entertain trades at this time.  


Also good to know: I will be out of town (and not hoarding goods along with 
me to ship at earliest possible opportunity) from Thursday, 9/24 until 
Monday, 9/28.


Thank you for sticking with me to this point. Enjoy these last few days of 
summer! 


Emily 

in the District

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[RBW] WTB: Albatross or similar handlebar (DC preferred)

[Emily Scott]

Hi all, 

I'm in the hunt for a gently used Alba-style bar. 26mm stem dia. Prefer to 
pick up one in DC, but certainly will welcome all ideas. Feel free to 
message me off-list.

Thanks!

Emily
Capitol Hill


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[RBW] Re: FS: Woolies

[Emily]

Folks, a few matters to clarify: These are men's/unisex; the sizes listed 
are men's sizes. Images can be found here here. 
https://plus.google.com/photos/100585884632025770406/albums/profile?banner=pwa
 The 
photos are not so hot, but all of the tops are in great, albeit used, 
condition. None of them has pockets. Also of note: 'tis the season for 
rampant dog hair to float about the apartment--rest assured, if you claim a 
wooly, I will roll it clear of hair, but if you have pet hair allergies, 
this is something you should know. 

Cheers, 
Emily in Alexandria



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[RBW] FS: Woolies

[Emily]

Good afternoon folks - I'm clearing out some woolen wearables this week. 
They're all in good to darn good condition--one has a little fading, but I 
don't think there are any holes, etc in any of them. A brief description of 
each follows; please feel welcome to email me off-list. Pics coming soon. 
Paypal; shipping will be a little extra: I'm in Alexandria, VA.

cheers!
Emily


*Four Fine Woolies:*

   - *Medium Sleeveless - $28*
  - lightweight
  - bluebird blue, slight fading
  - New Zealand wool
   - *XL Longsleeve 1/4-zip mock turtle neck - $55*
  - mid/lightweight
  - grassy green
  - has thumb loops
  - New Zealand wool
   - *Medium Longsleeve - $33*
  - mid/thickweight
  - basic + good
  - wine red
  - Aussie Marino Skins
   - *Small Longsleeve - $45*
  - lightweight
  - v. good condition, but no thumb loops
  - bluebird
  - New Zealand wool
   

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[RBW] WTB Brooks B17 honey with copper

[Emily]

Hi folks, 
Does anyone have a used B.17 sitting around that you'd consider selling? 
I'm interested! 

Please feel welcome to contact me offlist.

Cheers!
Emily

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[RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Emily Hutchinson]

Hello, 
I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with 
all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average 
weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I 
feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never 
ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to 
try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national 
tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is 
it irresponsible to spend this much money?

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[RBW] FS: Grid grey Toursacks, Excellent Condition

[Emily]

Hello all, 

I have a set of not-new, but very much like-new, grid grey toursacks. They 
are in impeccable condition. 

Photos here: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44792891@N06/sets/72157633952742086/

$250 + shipping; let's go through PayPal. 

Please inquire at scottaqua...@mac.com and thanks!

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[RBW] WTT: my Brooks Swift for your Flyer

[Emily]

Fellow Bunch-Mates, 

I have a nice Brooks Swift (black and copper) I'd like to trade for a 
Flyer. I had this on my QB initially, but replaced it with a B.17, which 
has been great. Now I'm thinking a sprung B.17 could be even better. 

This Swift http://tinyurl.com/7kzupz8 is used - or it's a good deal 
softer than a new one out of the box - but it clearly isn't fully broken in 
yet. It has been Obenaufed with love and devotion (but not too much!) and 
then put back on the parts shelf. Something of a tragedy really. I'd prefer 
(never to see it again) that it be used and enjoyed. I'm looking for a 
Flyer in similar condition. Color isn't really much of an issue. 

Please contact me off-list. 

Thanks,
Emily in Charm City 



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