[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...
I have a lot of bikes including a custom randonneur and some beautiful vintage bikes (Hetchins, Masi, etc.). If I had to go down to one bike it would be my Atlantis. George in New Orleans On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote: Hi all, For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs. Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/ 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc. 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides. 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in love with all over again. 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, I couldn't let them trash it. Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree of interest in any of them. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What components do you wish RBW would start making?
Seersucker shirts!! Please. George S. On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:20:05 PM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote: Since they are not componenteurs, but they do have their own Silver line and bag line, etc. I'll start: *Decaleurs.* I have recently been searching for decaleurs, and there seem to be slim pickin's in the bike biz these days. 5 total I have found. 1 inexpensive and 1 mid point pricing models that all have mixed reviews, and 3 very expensive ones with seemingly no reviews I have found. So it would be cool if RBW came out with their own decaleur to offer. The bike industry needs another decaleur model. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you
Eric: Who is the author of Road to Valor? George Strickler New Orleans, La. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40:54 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if so, he really was a hero in more than just racing. Pretty sure this book was talke about on this list when it came out. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:52 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Tom, Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali smoked too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have known it wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: and maybe not https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202183233317395 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Work Shop Advice II
The work shop that I mentioned previously is coming along. I decided to enclose a car port unused since Katrina. Probably two weeks away from moving in. I tried to post pictures but was told that the jpg were too large - something about a limit of 2000 pixels. I'm not sufficiently computer savvy to know what to do about that. If someone is, let me know and I'll try to post them. I have had no problem sending the same pictures via my gmail account. GeorgeS On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:12:19 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Please post photos of the workshop when it is finished -- thanks! On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:27 AM, GeorgeS chob...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me about the interior. I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and that I intend to use in the new shop. I find that stand inadequate for some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.) So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp. It came with no instructions. Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install this thing? 700c wheels touching the floor? A couple of inches of additional space? Higher? This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I don't want to get it right the first time if possible. Thanks. GeorgeS New Orleans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Work Shop Advice II
My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me about the interior. I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and that I intend to use in the new shop. I find that stand inadequate for some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.) So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp. It came with no instructions. Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install this thing? 700c wheels touching the floor? A couple of inches of additional space? Higher? This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I don't want to get it right the first time if possible. Thanks. GeorgeS New Orleans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA Knickers (Old Style)
Ahh, provenance established! They're sold. GeorgeS On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:36:59 AM UTC-5, GeorgeS wrote: Old style (velcro) MUSA Knickers. Size Large. Color Gray. $30 shipping included. Paypal or check. I don't know how these got in my drawer because they are not my size. I have never worn them. They show no sign of wear and look new to me but I can't say for sure because I don't know the provence. GeorgeS New Orleans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/y0DRGNhX30IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: MUSA Knickers (Old Style)
Old style (velcro) MUSA Knickers. Size Large. Color Gray. $30 shipping included. Paypal or check. I don't know how these got in my drawer because they are not my size. I have never worn them. They show no sign of wear and look new to me but I can't say for sure because I don't know the provence. GeorgeS New Orleans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4lEDZxUiNngJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..
The sear sucker shorts! GeorgeS On Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:50:17 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote: QuickBeams! My Nitto race cages all came from RBW. Though I certainly understand why both are no longer carried. Very glad that front racks, Wald baskets, and ShopSacks are still carried. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8lP9mXkJxiwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For Sale; Riv Quickbeam Flip-Flop SS Wheel set, GB 2286 Front Bag, etc
I will take the Berthoud bag, Campy Pista crank set and the Suntour pedals if they are still available. Let me know the total and I will PayPal tonight. I'll be away from computer during day. GeorgeS On Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:53:54 AM UTC-5, Mayfly wrote: Hiya All! The Stuff Purge Continues Some More I am offering the following items; 700c Single Speed flip-flop wheelset. 32 spokes front and rear. Sansin hubs, stainless spokes, Araya TX rims. These are the original wheels from my first iteration green Quickbeam. Good used condition. Hubs are excellent, as are spokes. Rims have some brake pad residue, but no prominent wear. $135/set including oversize shipping cost. Gilles Berthoud 2286 Front Handlebar Bag. The tallest one. Black with brown leather. With Gilles Berthoud Decaleur for horizontal mounting for stems like the Nitto Tec. Like new condition. $260 shipped Campagnolo Record Pista Crankset. Classic Classy. 167.5mm arms. 144mm bolt circle diameter. Japanese chainring, 42T. Square Campy taper. 9/16 X 20 Pedal threads. Excellent shape. $80 shipped. Suntour Superbe road pedals. Silver with black cages. Sealed and smooth bearings. 9/16 threads. Christophe steel clips (size large), leather straps with leather shoe pads and plastic end buttons. Bodies fine, cages, clips, straps good condition with normal wear. I will include a set of brand new Suntour black replacement cages. $75 shipped. 2 Willow tripleizer chain rings. 130mm BC X 74mm BC. 1ea 46 tooth, 1ea 39 tooth. For 130mm BC standard road doubles. To be used as a middle ring allowing the addition of an inner third ring (74mm) to a double crank. Unused with a little shop wear. $25/ each shipped. All including Shipping to CONUS. Paypal, por favor. Please email for photos and more info to msch...@nmsu.edu javascript:. Thank you all for your consideration. The following have been sold; VO Campagne Handlebar Bag Official BOB wool cycling jersey Nitto M12 front rack VO Constructeur front rack VO Stainless Steel wing nuts Thanks, Marc http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/az6.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mGytIkFb1YIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Lugged stem, Paul Racer brakes, Tents, Campy Ti seatpost,650b tires
Is the lugged stem still available? If so, I'll take it. GeorgeS On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:35:13 AM UTC-5, hobie wrote: I have the following parts for sale. All prices include shipping. US only. Thanks for looking. 1- Nitto lugged quill stem 11cm. Excellent condition. $150.00 1- Campagnolo Record Titanium seatpost 27.2 $200.00 Together w. the Nitto lugged stem they make a nice match. The lustre is similar,the Nitto being alittle cooler in color. 1-Pair of Paul Racer brakes anodized silver centerpull,reach is 57-67mm. Just replaced the Koolstop pads. $150.00 1- Pair of Grand Bois Ourson 650bx35mm tires folding bead. Road for around 5 miles. $60.00 1-Pair of Schwalbe 650bx38 tires, 1-pair of Fatty Rumkins 650bx41. Both have about 50-60% life left. Both pairs $50.00 shipped 1-Phil Wood Bottom Bracket 111mm JIS, alittle rough but still very usable. $55.00 4- Carradice leather straps white never used. 7-1/2 long. $22.00 1- Eureka Backcountry 1 person tent, never used. New no box. $115.00 1- Eureka Skylight 2- person tent, used a few times. $95.00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/plwHbaknHuUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 1st Flat with Foss Tube
FWIW I found the nick in the tube and patched with the Foss patches which don't require any glue. Seems to work fine and certainly less messy than German stuff. I'm going to try to keep track of the incidence of flats with the Foss tubes as opposed to my wheels with regular (and much cheaper) tubes. Of course, the bikes all have different tires so this won't be very scientific. Maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to pay $20 for a high tech tube that will change my life. G On Friday, August 24, 2012 2:03:02 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: So, not proof against goatheads -- thanks for guinea-pigging these things. Ryan Watson: weren't you going to test them here in ABQ, NM, Goatheadland, USA? Your results? Patrick Moore in ABQ, NM, where the gross speading of the vine promises a hugely fraught automne (I dug up literally a bushel basket of goathead vines from our church driveway and adjacent plantings). On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:01 AM, George Strickler chob...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I've had Foss tubes on my Atlanis for about five months now with no flats. Probably around 600 miles including one long trip during the summer and lots of commuting and shopping in New Orleans and Vermont. This morning I got ready to come to work and the rear tire was flat. The culprit was a small sliver of green glass (Heineken?) which was still embedded in the tire (Schwalbe Racer). The thing about it is that the piece of glass was really small - probably less than 1/16 in width. I thought the Foss tube was supposed to seal off small punctures. Of course, it may be that the glass got in some time ago and the tube held air for some time but I don't think so. When I rode home yesterday I had no sense that the rear tire was soft and this morning it was completely flat. For what it's worth, I rode home in heavy rain yesterday and there was a lot of standing water, conditions which in my experience make punctures more likely. -- George Strickler New Orleans, Louisiana -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Believe nothing until it has been officially denied. -- Claude Cockburn - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bQ512BLMlvIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A very cool, riv-ish bike computer/bell
Does anyone know if these things are actually for sale? If so, where? GeorgeS On Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:44:51 PM UTC-4, ekoral wrote: i thought if anyone would appreciate this new concept computer, it would be you guys. It looks like it has a speedometer, trip and overall odometer, as well as a BELL! i love this thing and i can't wait until it's a reality (if ever). check it out guys! eli http://redfish.ee/?p=477 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/np0RqZLAjA4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: rene herse crank
I'm curious about the White Industries hub. Is that the one that is said to be so noisy? What is your experience? GeorgeS New Orleans On May 27, 3:36 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I've been commuting for the past few weeks with one of the new Rene Herse cranks on my AHH. http://www.compasscycle.com/cranks_bb.html I haven't seen any reviews on this yet, so I figured I would share a few thoughts/opinions with the group. I'm not really a crankoholic, and have mainly ridden wider Q mountain cranks. I mainly wanted to upgrade the bike a bit, and thought a well built crankset would be a nice add. Something that would last as long as the frame, perhaps. I've never had any experience with a narrow tread road bike, and was a bit worried that having a narrow Q would be a problem. So far that has not worked out to be the case. I find it comfortable, and natural. The length of these are 171mm, which is close to what I'm finding to be ideal for me. I tend to lately favor the 170mm cranks I have on another bike over the 175mm I've been using for the past 20 years. The finish and feel of these cranks is indeed very nice, and every bit as good as it has been billed. The chainrings are nice and thick, but elegant. To me, these cranks feel more solid than the others I've used lately including Sugino XD, Suntour XC Pro, and modern Shimano Deore and XT cranks, as well as a Race Face outboard bearing set I have on my mtb. They are very nice to look at, as well, with a highly polished finish, and simple, clean and classy lines that go really well with the Rivendell frame. It was recommended by Jan that I use a 110mm bottom bracket, so I ordered one, but decided to try the cranks with a 107mm that I had on already. They went on easily, and the arms have at least 3-5mm clearance with the chainstays. The chainline is adequate, as well. I got 44/28 rings to go with an 11-32 cassette. This gives me plenty of range for the hilly riding I do in the area. Bottom line - I highly recommend these. Love em! Pics: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzzumnw Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Ride it!
There is a Juicy Lucy's in New Orleans. On Carrollton Avenue near Canal. Great burgers with stuffed meat. My preference is cheese and jalapaneo. The waitress' wear very tight T-shirts emblazoned with I'm Juicy. GeorgS On May 25, 3:09 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: This place was famous for having been built on the third base position of a demolished ballpark? Juicy Lucy sounds about right, though. I took a picture of the burger, but it was too pornographic to post anywhere. I do think it was in Minneapolis, not St. Paul, and we did go there with a native guide. I do have a non-offensive picture of Mickey's Dining Car to share, though:http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/3639639989/ Philip On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07:54 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: On May 24, 12:13 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon in a funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, Yeh, that's real popular... with the ladies. Hmmm. The original bar famous for stuffed hamburgers in the Twin Cities is Matt's on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis, Home of the Jucy Lucy. Could this be the place? Except a waiter is rare--if ever-- mostly it's waitresses. If it isn't the place, put it on your list 'cause it's the real deal. Total dive bar with 60's era gold vinyl wall paper and home-made brass-and-wood duck art hanging on the walls. The cheese is so hot that they refer to it as a molten core and it's standard policy for waitresses to ask if you've had one before. If you haven't, detailed instructions for how to eat it are provided so that you don't burn yourself from the molten lava-cheese. The standard beverage is a Grain Belt Premium–or just a Premium but they recently added Blue Moon in some absurd attempt to class the joint up. Matt's is in my 'hood and responsible for the 10 pounds I added the first year I moved to Minneapolis. Riv content: nope, all my Saluki/Proto communting has not taken off my year of Juicy Lucys. Liesl I'll-Have-a-Premium from deep in the heart of South Minneapolis On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07:54 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: On May 24, 12:13 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon in a funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, Yeh, that's real popular... with the ladies. Hmmm. The original bar famous for stuffed hamburgers in the Twin Cities is Matt's on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis, Home of the Jucy Lucy. Could this be the place? Except a waiter is rare--if ever-- mostly it's waitresses. If it isn't the place, put it on your list 'cause it's the real deal. Total dive bar with 60's era gold vinyl wall paper and home-made brass-and-wood duck art hanging on the walls. The cheese is so hot that they refer to it as a molten core and it's standard policy for waitresses to ask if you've had one before. If you haven't, detailed instructions for how to eat it are provided so that you don't burn yourself from the molten lava-cheese. The standard beverage is a Grain Belt Premium–or just a Premium but they recently added Blue Moon in some absurd attempt to class the joint up. Matt's is in my 'hood and responsible for the 10 pounds I added the first year I moved to Minneapolis. Riv content: nope, all my Saluki/Proto communting has not taken off my year of Juicy Lucys. Liesl I'll-Have-a-Premium from deep in the heart of South Minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Ride
Wait! Bicycling is NOT the source of all 2-wheel wisdom? I want my money back. GeorgeS On May 17, 8:09 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Just Ride was on my mind yesterday when I tried to help a woman decide on her first nice bike. She wants a sporty-ish bike for Burley-pulling and it would be nice if it had a rack. Easy enough. But she's also athletic and aspires to the racer archetype. I should add that she's the type of woman that most men would notice in any crowd, which means that various bike dudes have tried to help her with all sorts of advice. All the usual suspects were present: the necessity and efficiency of clipless pedals, the magical properties of carbon, and the (baffling-to-me) popularity of time-trial bikes, none of which are necessary, or even desirable, in a bike for daily errands and family rides. Anyway, she was clearly struggling with the perceived compromises between making a bike useful and making a bike fast (or at least light/expensive enough to impress the racer wannabe crowd). I thought to myself: this would be a lot easier if she could drop the racer notions and stop hanging out with guys who read Bicycling Magazine as a comprehensive source of cycling wisdom. On Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:15:32 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Maybe there should be a spoiler alert here - be advised that I will be discussing various aspects of the new book, so navigate away from this page if you prefer the content of the book to be a complete surprise. I finished reading the book tonight, which if I can summarize in a line, is about all the good things about bikes that appear only when you toss racer prejudices and attitudes out the window and Just Ride. After the first few chapters, I thought that maybe the editors really sanitized GP's historically familiar against-the-grain opinions to be more blandly vanilla, hopefully to be appealing to a broader audience. The general content wasn't unpredictable to me, having read the Readers and Catalogs and most everything else Riv going back to 2004 when I wanted a touring bike and couldn't find any to buy except the Atlantis (that's how I first found Riv in the internet universe). But I was somewhat surprised that there was little to no discernible lug evangelism or quill stem absolutism or singing the praises of friction shifters, and the Retro-Grouchiness was held to a dull roar. But as I got further along in the book, I started to think that maybe Mr Petersen has simply mellowed about the trivial details over the years (I know I have!). Or maybe more accurately, there's less to be peeved about in the bike industry now than there was 10 years ago or even 5 years ago. After all, smart, sturdy bikes with ample tire clearance and useful braze-ons and some attention to classic, non-billboard aesthetics have become, dare I say, normal. If racing bikes and gear are the status quo in the world, then I must live in a lucky bubble in South Minneapolis where I ride and fix bikes every day, as I see lots of reincarnated 1980s sport-tourers, old steel MTBs, and new(ish) Surly Cross-checks and LHTs on a daily basis, but feel like I see relatively few road bikes being ridden by obvious faux-racers. To the extent that bike trends have steered toward the benefit of the Unracer over the past decade or so, my opinion is that Grant and Rivendell played a large part in it. This is not to say that all smart bike designs and product offerings are shameless Riv-ripoffs, but that Grant gave voice to a backlash movement and opened a long-neglected market to a lot of smart, creative people who maybe couldn't or wouldn't have done it without some pioneering coattails to ride on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tandem Transport?
I have a nice tandem I want to take to Vt this summer. I have a medium size SUV (Honda Pilot) but with all my other stuff, there's not enough room in the car for the bike. I don't want to put it on the rear rack because that's got all the regular bikes which leaves the roof. Does anyone have a recommendation for a roof rack for a tandem? GeorgeS New Orleans, La. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?
Over the years I have ridden on a lot of B-17's and Professionals and a few Swallows. I think most people will agree that breaking in a Pro or a Swallow takes a lot longer than a B-17 because the former seem to be constructed with thicker leather. On the other hand, I've had B-17's that were fairly comfortable from the start and some that seemed to be well broken in after 500 or so miles. I believe that there is a lot of variation in the leather used in B-17's and particularly in those being produced under the new ownership. My sense is that the B-17's of 10 or 15 years ago are just stiffer out of the box than the current crop. GeorgeS On Mar 24, 5:07 pm, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: Mine required 300 miles. A new B17 went on the repainted Road Std at the beginning of the year and today, it felt noticeably better. I rode a Metric, sans a chamois in the shorts and it was fine. I'll give it a go for a century next weekend. This is the first time I actually kept track of break in time. My Selle Anatomicas are basically break in free, although they do feel better after about 50 - 100 miles. Btw, the Road Std is a wonderful bike. They come up for sale from time to time and aren't super pricey. I guess they're not especially rare. Worth a look at. Kind of a racy Waterford front end mated to a relaxed seat tube and long chain stay Riv rear section. Reynolds 753 frame and 531 fork. It's a sweet ride. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's the verdict on the Foss inner tubes?
I've been using them for about 6 months on my Atlantis. 26 wheels with Marathon Racers. No flats in 800+ miles. They do not hold air particularly well. I have to pump mine up at least once a week. GeorgeS On Mar 18, 11:28 am, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: What's the verdict on the Foss inner tubes? And do you really have to use their special rim tape, or will these tubes work with standard kinds of rim tape just as well? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MUSA Knickers - Sartorial Slippery Slope
I wear MUSA knickers (I have two pair) to work all the time. I'm 70 years old. No eyebrows raised here, but then I teach in a university where dress code is more likely to be the name of a band than of a social convention. If I really wanted to spark interest, I would have to put on a coat and tie and perhaps some wingtips. The MUSA knickers and shorts are great. I just wish they didn't look like they were made out of something developed by NASA. GeorgeS On Feb 25, 10:16 am, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Dear RBW list, Please help! I recently got some of these (black ones) and have been wearing them pretty much all the time around the house. They are totally comfortable, they are great on the bike. They are perfect for my commute. Yesterday I found out they are pretty much perfect to wear around work. At 60 years old I can't really pass as a hipster. I'm getting strange looks from my peers at my high tech work place. What am I to do? -JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Campy Record 10 group on Rambouillet?
That's what I've got on my Ram. The cranks are TA Carmina. Brakes are Dura Ace. I figured that if I paid for it, I can set it up like I want. I might feel differently about the use of candy-colored tires or hipster bars barely long enough for a brake lever. There are, surely, some limits. GeorgeS On Feb 12, 9:36 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: You wouldn't be the first. Bill On Feb 11, 10:45 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy Record 10 group on my Ramouillet? And yes, carbon shifters/fd/rd but alloy cranks. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
I have read the posts on this subject with interest. I have a lot of bikes, including an Atlantis, a custom randonneur, a Rambouilet and a number of vintage touring bikes. If I could only have one bike (I sincerely hope I'm never in that position), it would be the Atlantis. You can do anything on it that most people will ever want to do on a bike - fully loaded touring, fast or not so fast centuries, commuting, dirt roads and trails, you name it. My bikes are scattered throughout the hose and some are hanging on racks in various places. The Atlantis is the one parked next to the front door. GeorgeS On Feb 7, 12:15 pm, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: Atlantis seems to be the consensus. I would agree with the qualifier that, if you ride small enough a frame to be on a 650b Sam or 26 Atlantis, I'd at least consider the Sam. Just because I like 650b wheels. Steve On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 7:17 PM, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote: i know it tends to be a different comparison, given the price and all. but let's assume the price is the same. i can't decide. at all. and price is an issue but still wanna compare. this is where i'm stuck. i want a bike that can tour. but can mostly serve as fun and quick, spirited normal everyday bikes. i don't need a fast bike. i just want a quick bike. i like the atlantis better, but im nervous that it will be sluggish unloaded. maybe dat ain't true-i dunno. anyways. horrible grammar aside, i am hoping some sam owners and atlantis owners would chime in. and if you own both. that'd be even betta! thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB Shimano rapid rise (reverse action) Derailers
If anyone has a set of the rapid rise derailers now being discussed on the thread and wants to dispose of them, please let me know. Assuming a reasonable price, I'll be glad to buy them. Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.
I'm really glad to see this discussion about the Shimano RD's. Some years ago I bought a used Atlantis from Tom Hill at Hyawatha. When I started riding the bike I was disconcerted by the fact that the deraileurs worked the opposite from what I was used to. Pushing the levers away resulted in thing springing to a bigger gear. I thought of changing the mechanism to solve the problem but I'm lazy, the thing worked fine, so I just adapted. I probably ride the Atlantis more, day in day out, than any of my other bikes. So, what does one call the reverse action deraileur? Do I understand from the thread that Shimano has dropped this device from the line-up or is it the opposite? This is probably the kind of thing that I should know w/o asking but most of my bikes are vintage things with relatively crude shifting mechanisms. In my defense, however, I do know a lot about Cambio Corsa shifters. GeorgeS On Feb 3, 3:46 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: A year or more ago, my rambunctious golden retrievers knocked over the Atlantis, which was politely drying in the afternoon sun after a nice bath. The derailer hanger bent, and it totaled my original derailer, which was the now-discontinued rapid rise version. I admonished the dogs, and substituted with shimano's current high normal equivalent, consoling myself with the thought that I'd adjust to pulling my silver shifters up to go to a lower gear, just as I had quickly gotten used to pushing down for same when that reverse action came around. I never did. Maybe the little fellow needed some fine tuning, but my real objection was, I suspect, somewhat more conceptual: lifting that shifter up to ascend to a higher gear had come to make more sense somehow. (That, and I still have one of the rapid rise fellows on the bleriot, so I wasn't able to completely block out the past experience.) So, through the magik of the intertubes, I procured and mounted the rapid rise model back on the Atlantis. The difference is remarkable for me, and I am most happy with my reversion to the reverse-action. I suppose I should get some more before the ether swallows all examples. That having been said, I have a question on another, tangentially- related subject: when at rest, Atlantis sits on a two-legged kickstand, and with a decent load pops a static wheelie. On a sloping surface, those handlebars swing round with a vengeance, and if the rear load's uneven, the resulting weight shift threatens to topple all. So -- what do you call/where can I get one of those rotation-limiting devices that prevent the full swing-around on the bars? I've seen them in photos posted by a couple of you touring types, I believe. And maybe I should lop several centimeters off the kickstand legs to decrease the wheelie effect? Rick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Another DiNotte Light Question
Based on the comments last week concerning the DiNotte 300L tail light, I bought one as I was feeling distinctly under tail-lighted in the dark. Those little retro bullet-shaped things that Riv sells really don't create much of a warning. The 300L is very bright. A dumb question though: does this thing have a blinking mode? I can adjust the brightness but I can't get it to blink even though the instructions suggest that it will blink if the right combination of button pushes is performed. Or, are they talking about another model? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wretched Excess - The Sequel
What kind of tail light is that? Did you get it off a train? GeorgeS On Dec 19, 10:57 pm, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Couldn't help myself. Images are better this go-round as I enlisted a camerawoman. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/6541835389/in/photostream That's All Folks, JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell folding bike?
I have a Surly Traveler's Check which is the SS coupled CrossCheck. I also have a Brompton. These are entirely different bikes with, IMO, very different functions. The Brompton folds up in less than 2 minutes and can be thrown into even a very small car trunk or it can be put in a bag and checked as luggage. When one needs to use it, it unfolds in about 30 seconds and you're off. But, it does not ride like a normal bike. It has small wheels and frame is designed with shock absorber in the middle which gives the bike a kind of spongy feeling. For a convenient way to get around while traveling it is hard to beat. I know people ride centuries on these things, but personally I wouldn't. The Surly on the other hand, takes some time to assemble and, if it's been packed in a case, one has to deal with the tires that in my experience have to be deflated in order to get it to fit. In my experience it takes about half an hour to get the thing together and ready to ride. Even disassembled it will not fit in a small car trunk. Airlines sometimes will charge extra for the large travel case. When it's ready to ride, however, it is a regular, light weight bike which is set up exactly like you want it regarding everything from tires to stem length. If I'm traveling and I'm going to be in a place for enough time to do some recreational riding, I'll take the Surly hands down. If, on the other hand, I'm going to be in a place for a day or so and I just want to get from one place to another or do a little in-city site-seeing, the Brompton is perfect. GeorgeS On Aug 25, 7:57 pm, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: Surly made a coupled Crosscheck for a couple years. I think the price was pretty reasonable too. They stopped making the coupled Crosscheck and now make a coupled Long Haul Truckerhttp://surlybikes.com/frames/trucker_deluxe_frame/ Dan Abelson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy
I have used both tires on my Rambouilet. The Marathon is definitely the more puncture resistant tire. I've had only one flat on those tires and that was the result of an unlucky encounter with a roofing nail. The Ruffy feels a little more lively but not nearly as springy as the Grand Bois tires. Of course, with those I've had a fair number of punctures from glass and steel belt wire. Life is full of trade- offs. GeorgeS On May 15, 7:23 am, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: Any experiences and/or preferences on the Ruffy Tuffy versus Marathon Racer 700x30c? I am thinking of going with one or the other on my Riv LongLow (geometry and clearances similar to Rambouillet). Thanks. -- Forrest -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis
I don't know where on the east coast you are but Harris Cyclery in West Newton, Mass has, or had the last time I was there, several Atlantis' in stock. GeorgeS On Mar 17, 8:55 pm, Khalid Mateen krm2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone: I am new to this forum and I have a question to ask about ordering an Atlantis. I have taken my PBH but I am no where near Walnut Creek California. I am on the east coast of the US and no where near a Rivendell Dealer. Can you tell me, your experience of bicycle fit when ordering over the phone a bicycle that you have never tried? Did the bicycle feel to big or too small? I have always heard good things about the people who work for Rivendell Bicycle works but wanted to ask people who actually purchase their bicycles. THanks Khalid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason
The law reports have many examples of a kind of case, usually catoragized under nuisance, involving low risk, but high damage situations: people who keep bears or tigers as pets in urban settings, the guy who manufactures liquid rocket fuel in his garage, the list is endless. Someone claiming they are endangered by the pet or hobby files suit. The defense usually is something like I've had this bear for 15 years and he's never got out or harmed anyone. The courts regularly rule for plaintiffs reasoning that while the risk of harm (given the defendant's track record) is small, if things do go south - the bear gets out, the rocket fuel explodes, etc.- the damage can be very severe and monetary damages would be inadequate. One does not have the right generally to expose one's neighbors to great, though unlikely to happen, risk, if the activity is unusual for the neighborhood. I feel this way about helmets. I've been riding bikes for a long time and I have had numerous falls and a few encounters with cars. I've had several broken bones and other injuries. In all that time, I've only hit my head once. But it was a pretty hard blow right on my temple. I was wearing a helmet. Would I have survived without the helmet? Would I have suffered some disabling injury? I don't know but certainly there was that possiblilty. People die or suffer severe brain injuries all the time in ordinary, non catastrophic, falls. Brain injuries are different from broken bones in one's arms or legs. Brain injuries can and frequently do result in death or permanent disability. Wearing a helmet makes good sense to me even if the probability of my needing it is quite small. GeorgeS On Mar 16, 11:10 am, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. The same arguments were made when Preston Tucker wanted to include seatbelts in his cars. His board thought it implied that Tucker cars were unsafe. (Instead, it was Volvo who introduced seatbelts. I guess they weren't afraid that their cars might be considered unsafe.) Today, most of us use seatbelts, because we are aware of the risks of driving. Seatbelts don't keep people from driving. It seems to make little sense to pretend that riding bikes is risk-free. Do we really want to foster a teenage-like feeling of invincibility in cyclists? (Like my neighbor 20 years ago, who took up cycling in middle age. She loved it, riding against the flow of traffic, helmet-free on an old bike with no real brakes.) The bigger issue that nobody addresses is simple: A seatbelt or a helmet is your last line of defense. Accident avoidance through competent driving/riding is a much more important component of your safety. With cars, our focus on technology over driver education has had the U.S. slip from the safest country for drivers to one of the least safe. (However, that statistic in the NY Times was per driver, not per miles, and Americans drive more... so one might want to correct for that.) At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at the statistics and figuring out whether helmets make riding safer, whether risk compensation really is a factor, etc. I believe there is a need for real data, rather than opinion, on the subject. It's not that hard to figure this out, especially when you compare different countries and populations. But of course, like most quasi-religious topics, it would be a hotly debated issue. What do you guys think? Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterlyhttp://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog athttp://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Park 4th Hand Cable Stretcher
I have been given a Park 4th Hand Cable Stretcher (BT-2). No instructions came with it. I apologize for being, as my son would say, out of it, but how does one use this thing? Any advice would be appreciated. Right now it's just taking up space in my tool drawer. GeorgeS Clueless in New Orleans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: tout terrain Silkroad
I bought this bike fully built up from Peter White in 2008. It is the medium size – seat tube is 52cm and, because of the sloping top tube, the stand-over height is 75cm. The dimensions and all the features of the Silkroad are fully explained on Peter White's web site. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tout-terrain.asp Pictures of my bike at https://picasaweb.google.com/Choburger/ToutTerrainSilkroad#. The bike has been used solely for commuting, but has not seen much of that in recent months because I've found a bike I like better for that job, thus my desire to sell. The frame is straight and, except for a few normal nicks, the paint is in good shape with one exception: there is a bad scrape on the left rear of the rack, the result of an unfortunate encounter with wet trolley tracks while trying to make time. I have tried to show the scrape in the pictures. While the paint is scraped off to the bare metal, the damage is cosmetic: the rack is not bent. The components are: Cranks: TA Carmina 160mm, 40 tth ring BB: Phil Wood Gears: Rohloff 500/14 SB Brakes: Shimano XT disc brakes Headset: Chris King 11/8 black Wheels: DT X455 rims, DT spokes Front hub: Shimano Dynamo DH 3D71 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon XR Bars and stem: Syntace Mudguards: SKS made for tout terrain Front light: Supernova E3 with crown mount Rear light Supernova E161-T Seat post: Ritchey Pedals: Shimano M-34 (I will substitute MKS platform pedals if desired) Saddle: A very well-broken-in B17. Lots of mile before it went on this bike but still plenty of life left. (will substitute a fi'zik Wing if desired) I paid $4246.20 for the bike. I will sell it for $2500 plus shipping. The Rohloff hub alone is now selling for $1695. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: tout terrain Silkroad
Re what bike do I like better. An Atlantis. I bought it mainly because I was offered such a good deal. Then I decided to use it for a fully loaded tour I took through Vermont and Quebec this summer and it was great. When I got home, I just started riding the Atlantis to work on bad weather days and before I knew it, it was the only bike I was using for commuting/shopping and what-have-you unless the weather is pristine, in which case I've got a 50's era Carlton Flyer path racer set up with an ancient coaster brake which I just love to ride. I recently realized I had this great, relatively expensive, bike that I hadn't touched in 6 months. Time to move on. I decided not to use the Silkroad for the trip this summer in large part because of the fear of being out on the road and something going wrong the stuff that I knew nothing about (the Rohloff and the disc brakes). I did run into several German couples this summer who have been touring the world on Rohloff equipped bikes and they said there were many advantages which I believe. But I'm of a certain age and if something goes south on a deraillier=equipped bike, I'm confident I know enough to do a Rube Goldberg repair and make it to the next town. With the Roholff, I would't have a clue and I suspect that the average LBS, at least in N. America, wouldn't have one either. Also, I think Silkroad is a hair small for me and that may be another reason I just feel better on the Atlantis. I probably should have experimented with different bars, stems, etc. Probably more than you wanted to know . . . GeorgeS On Feb 8, 3:09 pm, nawr...@comcast.net wrote: Just curious, what bike did you find that was better suited for the job than that awesome bike? Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 6:26:25 AM Subject: [RBW] FS: tout terrain Silkroad I bought this bike fully built up from Peter White in 2008. It is the medium size – seat tube is 52cm and, because of the sloping top tube, the stand-over height is 75cm. The dimensions and all the features of the Silkroad are fully explained on Peter White's web site.http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tout-terrain.asp Pictures of my bike athttps://picasaweb.google.com/Choburger/ToutTerrainSilkroad#. The bike has been used solely for commuting, but has not seen much of that in recent months because I've found a bike I like better for that job, thus my desire to sell. The frame is straight and, except for a few normal nicks, the paint is in good shape with one exception: there is a bad scrape on the left rear of the rack, the result of an unfortunate encounter with wet trolley tracks while trying to make time. I have tried to show the scrape in the pictures. While the paint is scraped off to the bare metal, the damage is cosmetic: the rack is not bent. The components are: Cranks: TA Carmina 160mm, 40 tth ring BB: Phil Wood Gears: Rohloff 500/14 SB Brakes: Shimano XT disc brakes Headset: Chris King 11/8 black Wheels: DT X455 rims, DT spokes Front hub: Shimano Dynamo DH 3D71 Tires: Schwalbe Marathon XR Bars and stem: Syntace Mudguards: SKS made for tout terrain Front light: Supernova E3 with crown mount Rear light Supernova E161-T Seat post: Ritchey Pedals: Shimano M-34 (I will substitute MKS platform pedals if desired) Saddle: A very well-broken-in B17. Lots of mile before it went on this bike but still plenty of life left. (will substitute a fi'zik Wing if desired) I paid $4246.20 for the bike. I will sell it for $2500 plus shipping. The Rohloff hub alone is now selling for $1695. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Danish Always-On Frictionless Dyno
The Amazon description doesn't say much. How does this thing work? GeorgeS On Dec 27, 11:52 pm, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote: Just ordered a few: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0017GA09W/ref=oss_product Intent is to use as supplemental vs main lights. Will let you know how it goes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?
I was just catching up with the posts and saw this thread. I've got RB0219. Blue. Purchased in 2005 from Peter White. George Strickler On Nov 18, 2:21 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 11/18/10 9:40 AM, NickBull at nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: But the SN's must not be precisely sequential, or at least something is off since SN #1163 is greater than the total made = 693+432=1125 Mine is RB0453. Is yours an orange Rambouillet? I sort of (not anywhere to verify right now) recall that there was a bit of a production gap between the first run (orange) and the first blue runs (separate printed flyer). It wouldn't suprise me if they restarted the s/n's at RB1XXX with the new run. But this is conjecture on my part. In other words, can anyone supply a low-numbered (under 1000) factory-blue Rambouillet serial number? Thanks for playing! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: wanted Rear derailer
In looking at RD specifications, what exactly does front difference refer to? The difference between the smallest chain ring and the smallest cog? Something else? GeorgeS On Nov 8, 1:16 am, DavidPBest db...@davidpbest.com wrote: I just went through this outfitting a new Atlantis. Finding a silver RD that will go up to 34T is a challenge. Yes, the one Riv sells (Shimano RD-M770-SGS) meets the capacity, but it's the Low Normal version, it only comes with a black tensioner (go figure). The Shimano RD-M772-SGS (Top Normal) is as silver as they get in the current lineup (at least that I could find). Even this one has some black on it: http://tinyurl.com/2wasf4q This RD is about $80 (mailorder) or $100+ at LBS. There is a previous model that will probably work for you - the RD- M761-SGS: http://velospec.ru/components/shimano/rdm761sgs One of these RD-M761-SGS is for sale NOS on eBay for $65:http://tinyurl.com/32u2745 Hope this helps. David On Nov 7, 12:49 pm, ejg egi...@maine.rr.com wrote: Hi folks I'm looking for a rear derailer that can handle an 8 speed cassette with 34 teeth. The one Riv sells is black and I'm trying to avoid black components. Something older and in nice condition would be good as it will be going on a 1971 Raleigh. I'd buy something new or new/used if it didn't look too techy. I'm using the new VO 50.4 Grand Cru crankset and a Suntour Superbe Pro front derailer. If anyone has anything or suggestions that'd be swell Thanks EJG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe
My God. Just buy one of those decent bag supports from Peter White, use the hupe for stirring paint or whatever and be done with it. As a consumer product this thing ranks right up there with Thalidomide. GeorgeS On Oct 27, 6:24 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: That sounds like it might help... but maybe not, by itself. Some of the problems of mounting have to do with (1) the diameter of the curves which snug around the stays; no matter how much coating there is, you have to really careful to avoid the rigid metal pushing right through it to contact the frame (the Hupe don't flex much there) and (2) the metal within the coating can have a rough surface, making (1) more likely and worse than it might be were the surface smooth. Bending the Hupe's curves to better match your stays' size where they make contact may help, as might de-burring or generally smoothing the Hupe's metal surface (after which it'd probably be a good idea to re-coat it as you suggest). All speculation, but trying all of this sounds like fun and is on my list of Things I'd Love To Do But May Never Get Around To. After all, I'm already in my late 40s. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 27, 5:50 pm, jlvota jlv...@ilstu.edu wrote: You guys probably know this already, but they sell that rubber coating stuff at the hardware store to re-coat the handles of hand tools. It would probably be perfect to dip the hoop in and give it a second life (and possibly double up on in the problematic spots). On Oct 27, 3:30 pm, Kris Kenow krisallenke...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Adam I have one I just taken off my Trek, The rubber coating is worn off the hooks and has not been too nice to my seat stays so I would be awillin to part. Trade? SURE... Kris Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:39:50 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Silver Hupe From: oceanm...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I know they've been controversial on this list and wonder if anyone has one they aren't using that they'd like to pass on. I've got some items to consider trading if you do. Cheers, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights
I have the Son20 and an Edelux set up on one bike and it is wonderful but the bike is the one I use for long distance riding. For around town I have a Ixon IQ which I got from Peter White and several bar mounts so that I can move the light around. Very good coverage and bright enough to spot pot holes when one is doing 12-15 mph. I would not feel comfortable with this light on any kind of fast dark downhill unless I was very familiar with the road. Come to think of it, I wouldn't feel comfortable in that situation with any light. GeorgeS On Oct 5, 6:44 am, opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com wrote: Looking for light recommendations for use in my ride in the early morning hours, about a 10 mile ride on dark rural roads. I am looking for suggestions by Riv owners for lights that work with their setups. I am a longtime owner/user of the NightRider classic, which was ok, although I never liked the gunky coax-like cabling, but the 3 ton battery has finally given out and I'm ready for something new, hopefully lighter in weight, and brighter, if possible...LED's?. Does anyone still use generator type lights? Since this is not really RBW related, please email your suggestions offline! Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Thoughts on Saddle Height?
Come to think of it, the guy did look like he spent a lot more time on the bike than in the books. I'm a lawyer, so the only leverage I recognize doesn't involve mechanics. GeorgeS On Sep 27, 6:28 pm, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Sir, you might want to raise your seat a bit so you'll get more leverage. More leverage from a higher saddle? I'd like to see the physics that validates that assertion. td -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You read it here first
Well, lets not get carried away. The guy does have his moments. Sometimes his comments on fixed-gear culture are dead-on. But his main thing is adolescent or, perhaps, pre-adolescent, locker room humor (an obsession with bodily secretions, masturbation, etc.). And, of course, he has a problem with women. Huxley? Theroux? I don't think so. GeorgeS On Sep 22, 3:19 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way and in his own sphere. The first year or so his blog was amusing. I stopped reading it as it became very repetitive. To me, BSNYC is the Jack Bauer of bloggers. Intriguing the first day. Every day thereafter more of the same. On Sep 22, 2:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: . I still cannot believe people read his blog which makes fun of other people for sport. That is the exact reason to read it, man! He carries on the tradition of Waugh (Evelyn), Huxley (Aldous) and Theroux (Paul), in his own way and in his own sphere. Patrick too much niceness is corrosive of character Moore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB Boxy Rando Bag
Anyone got a Berthoud, Acorn or other squarish front bag they would like to sell? Contact me off list. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops
Even if one never get into the drops, a drop bar gives one numerous hand positions - tops, ramps, hoods, side of the ramps and so forth. With Albatross bars or mostache-type bars (particularly if the center of the bar is loaded with computers, lights and other gadgets), one is basically limited to one hand position at the grips. For riding around town and short commutes this works fine: I have Jentensa (sp?) swept-back bars on my commuter and I love them. But for any kind of longer ride, or a real trip, I want drops for the comfort. And sometimes I really need the drops. I took a trip this summer in NE Vermont and Quebec that required a lot of climbing and descending. With a load fore and aft, I always felt more in control when I was in the drops, particularly on long fast descents. GeorgeS On Aug 27, 5:43 am, kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings. I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic reasons. I use the bike (a 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur, not a Rivendell) for longish fun rides, errands, and general purpose riding. Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops. In other words, are there clear advantages of one over the other? I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very much if I switched. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB - Silver Hupe
I gave mine away. Anyone who sells one of those things needs to take a long look at themselves in a mirror. On Aug 24, 10:04 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm willing to sign a disclaimer for anyone who wants to part with an un-loved Hupe! Thanks, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet
I hope I'm not being too dense but I still don't understand the last- minute bidding game. If you've got a personal limit of what you are willing to pay for the item and you bid that amount for starters, you won't ever pay more and you may pay a lot less depending on other bidding. Why wait to the last 20 seconds or resort to programs for slipping in bids at the last minute? Is it because another bidder can figure out what your maximum bid is and then cut in at the last moment with $2 more? GeorgeS On Aug 9, 6:54 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Redundant question, Steve... that's what I am saying [only exception being: known fact that most bidding on high-end/desirable goods on The Bay happen in the last 20 seconds... so again, know your Max-Bid, program it in for the recommended 6 second protocol, walk away, enjoy life, and then check it after the fact]. Re: the last 20 seconds... Recently sold a very high-end 18 bass drum on The Bay. It was a 0.99 cent auction [let the market decide and all that... but very risky on my behalf as a seller], 7 day auction, bass drum was stalled at $199.99 for 6 of those days [not good on my end]... final day, 30 seconds to go, each time I hit Refresh on my browser to watch my day get better [or much, much, worse], the bidding popped from 3 bids @199.99 to 17 bids and a final of $1034.00. -Scott On Aug 9, 2:59 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:51 -0700, S.Cutshall wrote: Hope you win, but let me add please... I can never quite understand the eBay Refresh-n-Stress method of bidding. Recently I've won a coupla things on The Bay, and even more recently I've sold [and am selling] a metric poop-ton of high end drums cymbals... and it seems to me that it's logical to approach these sorts of things with two thoughts: 1. Know your limit, your budget, what you are willing to go to... and then that's that. And then... 2. Just use something like 'Snipe It' [which is a legal eBay bidding device]. And really, that's it. PS- You can read more about 'Snipe It' here [and download it too, if interested]... https://www.myibay.com/ How would this be an improvement over simply bidding as much as you are actually willing to pay in the first place?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Down Tube shifter help
The link gives me a nice picture of a guy climbing Mount Ventoux (I think) but no small italian part. On Jul 23, 7:16 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:54 -0700, Eduardo Rosas wrote: So I'm finally getting close to getting my custom lugged randonneur type bike from a local builder. So naturally I'm stocking up on older proven technology like down-tube shifters. I finally found a nice set of c-record campy friction shifters that weren't all banged up, but... I could only find the kind that attaches to a crown and ideally I'd like to use the down-tube braze-ons. There is a piece, sorry I don't know the name (part #1 on this picture (http://www.ventoux.com/ campyrf.gif)) that I need, my set has this piece riveted into the crown and I'd rather not mutilate the crown to get it off. Does anyone happen to have a pair of these for sale or know where i might be able to pick some up. What's so special about Campagnolo downtube shifters? Or, put it another way, many would say the best downtube shifters ever were the Sun Tour Sprints, which RBW has brought back into current production as Silver shifters. Have you considered using them? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Query on TA Cyclo Tourist cranks and front derailier
I'm building up a 70's era Bob Jackson touring frame and I'm going to use TA Cyclo Tourist cranks. I have no experience with these things. The drop off from the middle ring to the granny is enormous. Is there some FD that handles this kind of move better than others? Any advice (other than to stick with Italian stuff) will be appreciated. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Question Concerning External Bearings BB for triple
I am getting a new road frame and I would like to try an external bearing BB. But I want a triple. The only one I've found is Shimano's Ultegra with a 50-39-30. Anyone know of another option? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag
I'm in total agreement about the Berthoud bag with a decaleur. I've tried a number of different handlebar bags and this is the best by far. Be sure to measure the room you have for mounting and get the right size. I also agree that the elastic bands are much easier to use than the leather strap luxe model. I'm sure the Acorn boxy bag is very nice but the Berthoud can be obtained from Wallingford or one of the other outfitters without a long wait. I try to forget that it's French. GeorgeS On Jun 10, 2:36 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: The bag I find the most functional is my Berthoud Handlebar bag that sits on a small front rack and uses a decaleur. These come in sizes based on the height of your bars from the rack. I purchased one with leather straps and buckles but I would recomend one that uses elastic and hooks on all the pockets. It is much easier to access the pockets while riding with the elastic. I have a Boxy Baggins and and a C'dale bag that mounts just to the bars. As the amount of weight goes up the Berthoud bag impacts the bike handling the least. I am using this bag on my Rambouillet and find it works very well. There are three factors that may account for this, the bag and therefor the weight is lower, the bag sits closer in to the bars and most of the weight is supported by the rack. I will be adding a Decaleur and rack to my Atlantis and this bag combined with my Hoss should make for a good minimalist touring rig. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain From: robha...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Your Favorite Handlebar Bag Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:22:05 -0700 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why? I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack, if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work. For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional space for clothing. I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando, Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain- proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry. Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/ Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS! Thanks for your consideration. Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?
Is there any difference (tubing, angles, etc.) between the Japanese Atlantis and the one now being made in Wisconsin? GeorgeS On May 13, 8:42 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: corrrection, WAS made in Japan, now moved to Waterloo, WI Missed that. As Mark says, with production closer by, Riv may have some more flexibility with sizes and add ons. Interesting the way things work sometime. Who would have thought 10 years ago moving production back to the U.S. would save money. On May 13, 8:21 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 06:07 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: Global economics. The Atlantis is made in Japan. corrrection, WAS made in Japan, now moved to Waterloo, WI Dollar to Yen has not favored Riv buying and holding a lot of the frames. As a result, Riv is moving more to the Taiwan made frames. and for the higher end stuff, back to Waterloo, as it was in the beginning -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: A. Homer Hilsen with SS couplers 63cm
I just packed a 56cm Surly Crosscheck in the hard box that Bilenky sells. It was a tight fit. I also had to remove the fork from the frame and I had to take the tire off the rear wheel to get it in. Pictures are here. http://picasaweb.google.com/Choburger/AdventureOfTravelingWithABikePartI# I did not have to remove the RD from the frame. This is not a job to do if you are rushed. Patience is required. Transcendental meditation if you've got it could help. GeorgeS On May 13, 4:28 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: That looks prettty good. I would still put a brace in the fork and rear triangle, but that look like a good pack. On May 13, 3:30 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 12, 3:24 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a super bike. I've been told that it can be difficult to get a large bike with SS couplers broken down small enough to fit in the appropriate travel case. Apparently, the smaller frames are a piece of cake; the larger frames not so much. What has been your experience? Here's a picture of a 68cm Atlantis with SS couplers that is broken down and in the case (with fork removed): http://www.sandsmachine.com/a_rex_r6.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Annoying Noise from Cranks/BB
I have been experiencing an annoying clicking from the cranks/BB which cannot be heard when the bike is on the stand but which immediately starts when I am actually peddling. I changed out the pedals and the clicking remained. Then I changed the crank set and the clicking stopped and has not returned and I've put more than 100 miles on the bike with the new cranks. There's not much to go wrong on cranks. The bolts attaching the rings to the spider are tight. The cranks with the problem is a Sugino triple I bought new from RBW. The BB is a Tange also purchased new from RBW. The cranks were tight on the spindle. Any suggestions on what is going on here? Something has to be moving. Is it possible the square hole for the spindle is not square? Perplexed. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)
I certainly would not want to urge anyone to arm themselves unless they are comfortable with a firearm, but if you sometimes or always carry a gun in your car for protection, there is no reason why you should not do so when riding a bike -unless you are going to have to lock the bike and are not able to carry the gun with you in which case you should not carry. I have used the small Wald basket on my Atlantis for carrying a Glock when I know I have to go through a particulary dangerous neighborhood. The gun can be concealed with a bandana but still remains in easy reach. GeorgeS On Apr 15, 9:29 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Rick Smith rick_sm...@sulfurstar.com wrote: I've come to the conclusion that the only time I'm ever yelled at, buzzed, bothered, etc. on a commute is when I'm on a bicycle with upright handlebars. When I'm on a bike with drop bars, whether I'm in the drops or not, I never have a problem. I think I might have stumbled on an inadvertent solution to this problem. I've started wearing side-fastening suspenders (they clip one to each side and cross over on my back.) But to someone who doesn't know what they are, they look like a shoulder holster. I think that's stopped folks from yelling something. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)
Ahh. The in terrorrem effect of what might be a shoulder holster. Of course for this to work, you're depending on people being of a certain age or at least old enough to have watched Hill Street Blues. My sense is that armpit holsters have gone out of style in a favor of plastic sheaths that slip inside the pants top or in the small of the back. No one really cares about tradition any longer. Don't get me started. GeorgeS On Apr 16, 11:14 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:07 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly would not want to urge anyone to arm themselves unless they are comfortable with a firearm, but if you sometimes or always carry a gun in your car for protection, there is no reason why you should not do so when riding a bike -unless you are going to have to lock the bike and are not able to carry the gun with you in which case you should not carry. I have used the small Wald basket on my Atlantis for carrying a Glock when I know I have to go through a particulary dangerous neighborhood. The gun can be concealed with a bandana but still remains in easy reach. GeorgeS I wasn't suggesting arming yourself. Just look like you might be armed. :) My friends refer to it as a unconcealed non-carry license. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love
Man, I am so glad to read this thread. I kept thinking it was just me. Now I can throw mine away w/o guilt. I agree that it should not be sold or resold. Nice people don't do stuff like that. GeorgeS On Apr 14, 4:55 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: With the Silver Hupe, for me the seat stay diameter made a difference. On the Quickbeam, with single tapered seat-stays it gouged the paint a bit and didn't want to fit around the larger diameter seat stays. On the Rambouillet with double tapered seat-stays, noticeable smaller diameter, it fit just fine. Angus On Apr 5, 8:34 pm, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 5, 5:21 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I had the same problem with mine. Definitely suggest wrapping some cloth bar tape around the stays before mounting the Hupe. --Eric cloth,even shellacked, will not offer full protection from a silver hupe. I know from experience. Maybe a few layers of inner tube will do the trick? That said, I love my silver hupe. It allows me to use the same bike for commuting, shopping,and club rides. easy on/ easy off. Make a bike more versatile. I carried such heavy loads on mine that it bent. I'm going to do my best to bend it back. Silver hupe on back, Wald Quick Release http://www.waldsports.com/ index.cfm/wald114basket.html on front -- for getting the most out of one bike. Best, Larry- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up
Wow. Makes me want to turn the computer off and get out of my insane office enviorment and ride somewhere. GeorgeS On Apr 6, 8:30 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VR4KaDeAuI Jay, good job. I think that video highlights what's important about bikes, getting out and riding. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Advice Offered
I am planning a modest ride this summer from NE Vermont to Montreal and back. I have a Rambouillet and a Atlantis. A couple of questions: 1. I would prefer to ride the Ram but it's not a major thing. Given the fact that I'm going to be on good roads, is there enough difference between the bikes to make me go with the Atlantis? 2. I have a Nitto front rack and several boxy style front bags. I don't have any rack for front panniers and zero experience with them. Recommendations on rack and front panniers? 3. I am planning on using a Carradice Nelson Longflap on the rear but no rear panniers. Any problem with that? Sorry about your family situation. I've been through that twice. Thanks for offering your advice. GeorgeS On Apr 7, 10:41 am, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: Adam Loading - The first principle is to travel light overall - you'll have more fun. Ratios - I'm not super scientific about this, but Pamela and I both like the way our bikes handle with heavy, dense stuff packed in low rider panniers in the front, SMALL handlebar bags, and bulky lighter stuff in the back. We always keep the heavy stuff as low as possible and we avoid rack top loads when possible. As a starting point, let's call the loading 60% front and 40% rear. The idea is balanced weight while riding. By packing relatively heavy stuff up front, we balance the rider weight that is carried more over the rear wheel. With both wheels equally sharing the weight, the bike feels balanced on the road and the rear wheel is less likely to have problems. My solution is to mess with my packing system until the bike feels right - good steering response, combined with a balance feel and the acknowledgement that my rear wheel needs to be protected by sharing the weight more evenly between wheels. I have no experience with extensive off road touring. For dirt roads, the principles are the same as above. Dave On Apr 7, 7:17 am, Adam oceanm...@gmail.com wrote: Could you speak to your experience of how it is most appropriate to load a bicycle for: a. strictly road touring b. mixed terrain (dirt and road touring) What ratios of weight do you recommend in the front and rear? Thank you! Adam On Apr 6, 10:36 pm, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: It is that time of year again. Many of us have probably started planning or dreaming about a summer tour. I'd like to offer my commitment for the next 5 days, until midnight on Sunday, April 11th, to address questions from anyone who is curious about loaded touring, has questions about gear, or other topics relevant to traveling and camping by bike. Riv related content - I tour on my RBW bikes and I don't meet many other Riv riders on the road! My motivation: I'm going through a difficult time right now with an aging and ill parent and I'm seeing my own opportunity for a summer tour slowly evaporate. I would love to have the productive distraction of helping others to realize their own dreams of travel by bike. I am not selling anything. My background: I work as a professor of adventure education at a small southwestern college. My entire adult life has been dedicated to teaching others how to enjoy and travel safely in the outdoors. I am a League of American Bicyclists Bike Ed instructor. I have traveled thousands of miles as a bike tourist and have spent years of my life living outdoors in remote wilderness. I have a Quickbeam, a Bombadil, and an Atlantis. I've toured with the last two. Rules of engagement and disclosure: Ask a question or questions via this forum or via a personal message to me. I clearly don't know everything and will say so when I don't know. If I don't have direct experience with something, I'll also say so. No BS. I expect to learn as well as share. As an open forum, anyone else with direct experience on a topic should feel free to weigh in or answer a question. If I get a question via email that I can't answer, I'll post it back to the group after asking permission from the sender. Please, don't answer a question with info that you've only heard or read about. Internet forums are already too full of that kind of second or third hand advice. That's one of the problems with getting good answers to bike touring questions. However, if you know of a great resource that's relevant (like RBW), please share it. I will try to check in on the RBW Owners Bunch no less than three times a day in order to answer questions. Moderator Jim: The RBW forum is the only internet forum I care to participate in. I appreciate the quality of thought and the civil discourse I find here. If you believe that my offer isn't an appropriate use of this forum, let me know and I'll retract my offer without a fuss. Professor Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received
[RBW] WTB Little Loafer
Anyone got one that needs a home? Well used and/or stained is fine so long as the zippers work and there are no tears. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs
Thanks for the pictures. I was at NAHBBS yesterday also. For my money the most impressive bike on the floor was the work of the young guy from Pa (Helm). Stunning workmanship on the randonneur. Lots of well-thought-out details. All internal routing through brass tubes. I was afraid to ask how much. G On Feb 26, 11:37 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I was at nahbs today in richmond and I spent a little time talking to the folks at bailey works bags. They're made in portsmouth, nh but they make nice, cordura bags of various kinds. They have a bag they call their d-rack bag which is made for the nitto mini rack or mark's rack, I think. I ordered one in navy blue and I'll post a picture of it when it comes in - but I just wanted to mention it b/c so many folks on here I know of have that small front rack. The bag they have is a little smaller than the little loafer and looks perfect for carrying a snack, tool kit, tube, etc. If you want to see a nice selection of bike pr0n. I can recommend the photo set from my partner: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157623517131582/ -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Question Concerning Atlantis
I just acquired an Atlantis with huge Big Apple balloons. Very comfy. Was this frame made in Japan by Toyo? When did RBW stop importing them? George learning to appreciate big, wide tiresS New Orleans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone use cable splitters?
I use the da Vinci splitters on a Surly Traveler's Check. The splitters work fine. When you break down the bike you have to create maximum slack in the cables. Once the bike is reconnected just screw the splitters together and, so long as you've left the cables with the same adjustment at brakes and deraillieurs, you're ready to ride. If you're changing handlebars you will be usually changing the length of the cables and thus additional adjustments will be necessary but that would be the case if you were using cables w/o splitters. The splitters just allow the cables to be broken and put back together. They are not adjustment devices. GeorgeS On Feb 9, 9:30 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to try these. Can you point me to a URL for purchase? Thanks. http://www.teamspirit.net/comp.html#split or ritchey ones are here:http://www.ritcheylogic.com/dyn_prodlist.php?k=97992 I've not used the ritchey ones - only the davinci splitters. The davincis have a set you can buy specifically for swapping bars. I think I'm going to get a set on the next tandem we get so we can go from townie to travel mode w/o having to do a bunch of work. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Suntor RD Query
I have a Suntor Crane GS and a Suntor Cyclone. Will either of these work with a modern 9-speed cassette? I'm sure they will handle the tooth differential but it's the lateral throw that I'm concerned about. George S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivish Ride New Orleans Jazz and Heritage
Without starting too early, we could do a morning ride of 25-30 miles taking us through Lakeview, Gentilly and the Ninth Ward and be back at the Fairgrounds by 12:30 or 1 when things start cranking up. Gives one a fairly good picture of what has happened in the last four years and what hasn't. Local club members who accuse me of unfounded pessimism will want to come along to give balance to my allegedly skewed views. George (just being realistic)S On Jan 7, 6:08 am, carnerda...@bellsouth.net carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote: I would lean toward the post-Katrina tour, but am open to all suggestions. David On Jan 4, 11:05 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I live in walking distance to the Fairgrounds and would be up for a ride. Are you interested in a post-Katrina tour or exercise? GeorgeS On Jan 3, 11:03 am, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey David, I hope to make it down for the second weekend (thurs-sun) and would be up for a ride. Keep us posted... -Jay B Denver, CO On Jan 3, 11:14 am, carnerda...@bellsouth.net carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote: Last spring there were several list members in NOLA for the Jazz and Heritage Festival. There was some interest (maybe only me?) in a Rivish ride at the time of the 2010 event. This year the dates are April 23 through May 2. Anyone planning to attend and interested in a group ride? More information at the link below.http://www.nojazzfest.com/ Disclaimer: I have no connection with anyone involved with the festival David- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mud Flap Girl
Cabello's sells a light rifle rack for ATV's which can be easily modified to fit on the side of the larger Nitto racks. The rack must be mounted very far forward to avoid pedal strikes. GeorgeS On Jan 3, 10:22 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jan 2, 2010, at 11:02 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Naked *and* reflective: how tasteful! Patrick where can I find a rifle rack for my Rivendell? Moore This'll git 'r done: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-platrack/20-203 It's not specifically a gun rack but could be easily converted. Also: You Might Be a Redneck If... Your Bicycle Has a Gun Rack by Jeff Foxworthy: http://www.thefoxworthystore.com/index.php? main_page=product_infoproducts_id=176 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivish Ride New Orleans Jazz and Heritage
I live in walking distance to the Fairgrounds and would be up for a ride. Are you interested in a post-Katrina tour or exercise? GeorgeS On Jan 3, 11:03 am, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey David, I hope to make it down for the second weekend (thurs-sun) and would be up for a ride. Keep us posted... -Jay B Denver, CO On Jan 3, 11:14 am, carnerda...@bellsouth.net carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote: Last spring there were several list members in NOLA for the Jazz and Heritage Festival. There was some interest (maybe only me?) in a Rivish ride at the time of the 2010 event. This year the dates are April 23 through May 2. Anyone planning to attend and interested in a group ride? More information at the link below.http://www.nojazzfest.com/ Disclaimer: I have no connection with anyone involved with the festival David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bike shop in Brooklyn
I'm giving my son a bike for Xmas, a Surly Pacer, built up as far as I can given the fact that it's going to be shipped, He has no tools so he will need a shop to do the final set up including cutting the steerer and fitting an appropriate stem. All the bits and pieces with the exception of the stem and bars (He's thinking) will be there. Suggestions? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fork dropouts: lawyer lip
I'm a lawyer and I resent the fact that these things are connected with the honorable profession, defenders of liberty, officers of the courts and all that. GeorgeS New Orleans On Nov 27, 3:46 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I just filed my Quickbeam lawyer lips off after 5 1/2 years. It took about five minutes with a file. It never was an issue until I got a dynohub. Lining up the connectors, then keeping the bike upright while holding both ends of the QR to twirl it down was too much fussiness compressed into too small a space. It's a tiny difference, but I like it better without the tabs. Philip mcminnville, ore. On Nov 27, 7:10 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: I believe for many/most they are a PITA due to the many extra turns one has to do of the lever required to remove or install the wheel. It is handy to be able to simply hold the bike in one hand, flip the lever with the other, and then give the wheel a quick rap to disengage from the fork ends. But with tabs it becomes a longer, slightly more arduous process as it requires a delicate balancing act of having to get in front of the bike in most cases, balancing the bike, getting down there with both hands to unwind the QR far enough to get the wheel out. On the other other hand, if you are one who tends to forget to tighten, then it is for you god invented tabs. I'd suggest, if in doubt, don't leave em out! On Nov 27, 6:01 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I am lucky to be the owner of a new 64cm Quickbeam, that bought as a frameset and built up using pretty standard QB parts (thanks to Andrew for selling me the wheels!). Anyway I notice that the fork has a 'lawyer lip' on it, which is a bit odd for Rivendell frames. I've read in the RR that Rivendell usually gets their dropouts with the lip on them, but that they have their builders file them off. This is the first frame I've had that has had the lip on it. I know they are a relatively recent phenomenon (invention, I guess), and I've heard a lot about these things and how they are a PITA because they defeat the purpose of the Q/R, but I have to say, I don't see why they are so bad. In fact, I kind of like having it there. While I don't consider my self to be a _complete_ idiot (the jury's still out), there have been times when I've removed my front wheel and realized that the Q/R was not very tight at all (tight enough to hold maybe, but then again.. is it?), and thought in horror about all the times i'd popped the front wheel off the ground to clear a curb while moving at a good clip. Geez, I would think, how close was I to eating asphalt? As for it defeating the purpose of the Q/R, you can still remove the wheel by hand quite easily, so my question is, what's the big deal? OK, so it's some extra metal to protect you from yourself- is that so bad? Do all Quickbeams feature the dropout lip? What do other QB owners think of them? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
Unless one grew up in Texas where Texas History is (or was) a required subject in all schools at each level (elementary, junior high and high school) it is hard to imagine the reverence with which Sam Houston is held. There is a certain Father Mao aspect to it. I am sure that many Texans are upset about attaching Houston's name to a commercial product. Like naming a new hybrid vehicle after George Washington. GeorgeS On Nov 3, 9:19 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: now, if you're talking about the rivendell aesthetic, that's a separate matter. but, tweed and twine and shellac don't make the bike. there are more important details to consider, and that's what separates rivendell from everyone else. Well put Patrick. That was more the point I was trying to make. On Nov 3, 6:35 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Nov 2, 10:36 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think. Funny how so many custom builders are trying to make bikes like the ones Rivendell has been producing for years. actually, it makes perfect sense. as far as I know, there aren't a whole lot of lugged steel production frames available. and what if someone wanted a roadeo type rig before riv got around to offer such a frameset? or wants a different fit or geometry than rivendell offers? custom is just about the only alternative. and in that case, custom builders are making bikes that are intentionally un-rivish. in any event, lots of framebuilders use lugged steel construction because they share the same philosophy as Rivendell when it comes to building a bike - that's not imitation. now, if you're talking about the rivendell aesthetic, that's a separate matter. but, tweed and twine and shellac don't make the bike. there are more important details to consider, and that's what separates rivendell from everyone else.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: WTT: Nitto M12 Front Rack
Same here. Maybe there are two out there. GeorgeS On Oct 26, 12:39 am, Rene valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Hi all, Before buying brand new online, I thought of taking my chances of getting a used but in a good condition Nitto M12 front rack from the group. Please email me off list: valbu...@ix.netcom.com Thank you, Rene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Some Ti for Atlantis/Bombadil?
Kind of a dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway. Is the difference between a Ti B17 and a regular B17 just that it weighs less or is there some other advantage? The price differential is substantial. GeorgeS On Oct 24, 6:26 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: This late summer I sat down on my Ti B17 after a little out-of-saddle jam over a hill and heard a click and tinkle as something hit the road. I went back and saw a piece of metal on the road, and thought perhaps I had just brushed it with my tire. Then I noticed my saddle was squishy. I stopped and found I had broken the tension shackle and bolt in the nose of the saddlehttp://www.wallbike.com/accessories/tension.html I bought new steel bits from wallbike and the saddle rides on. Hey and I know what you are thinking, I weigh 187lbs! On Oct 24, 9:28 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I think I'm gonna try this out: http://www.bikeman.com/CARV-MYTIBAR.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Front Rack Suggestions?
I've got a new (for me) tandem with Mafac cantilever brakes. I want to put on a front rack to support a boxy bag. The Nitto Mini Front from RBW looks like it was designed for that kind of installation. Any other suggestions? GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
I rode for many years with traditional campy or french pedals, clips and straps paired with italian ballet slippers. I thought I would never get used to anything else. 10 or so years ago I tried clipless pedals and never looked back. I have A530's on my commuter bikes and some form of SPD on everything else including my fixed gear. I do have a pair of egg beaters and a pair of campy Look compatible that I want to try out. I like the idea of jumping on the bike with whatever I'm wearing at the time and riding around on platform pedals but, like a lot of things in life, reality doesn't seem as good as the idea. I like to feel attached to the bike. GeorgeS On Oct 12, 6:36 pm, Pierre pierre.lacha...@live.ca wrote: This year, I've retrograded back to traditional quill pedals and toe clips. I started out with toe clips decades ago, succumbed to clipless in 1998, vascillated between clipless and toe clips once or twice a year, and this season, I've been all toe clip. At first, the retro switch came this spring when they started some serious road rebuilding where I live, making it necessary to walk my bike here and there (due to sharing narrow, temporary construction pathways with pedestrians). This rammed home what I've already known for years, and that is, walkable SPD or compatible shoes are not all that walkable except on the most perfectly smooth and even surfaces. A few too many crunching sessions made me decide to put my old Campy quill pedals back on, so I could ride with any ordinary athletic shoe. I've liked the freedom so much since that I have no intention of reverting back to clipless. Look, I like to ride fast, I spin and all that, but I know I can do that just as well with traditional pedals and toe clips. Pierre --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Cleaning Old tubular rims
What is the best way to get old, dried glue off a tubular rim? I've got some wheels from back in the day that I want to use with a 74 Raleigh Pro that I'm putting together. When my racing days were over, these things went in the attic w/o a thought to cleaning them. George Strickler New Orleans --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Cantilever Brake Adjustment Question
Until recently I had never had a bike with cantilever brakes so I am coming to the subject with almost total ignorance. I mounted a set of IRD Cafam brakes that I got from RBW on a new Surly. The levers are Shimano Tiagra. My problem is with the front brake. When the straddle cable is adjusted so that the brakes come in contact with the rim before the levers bottom out (about 3/4, feels OK), the left brake arm (left as I'm facing the brake) does not retract away from the rim when I release the lever. With no pressure on the lever, the brake stays in contact with the rim. The right arm pops away from the rim like it should. I can correct this by adjusting the straddle cable but then the levers bottom out and I don't feel I've got enough pressure on the rim to stop when I'm riding fast. Suggestions? I've thought of changing the spring tension on the left side (now the spring is in the middle hole) but I wanted to get advice before I went that route. My sense is that the left brake is not pivoting on the post as it should. What about giving the inside of the cantilever hole some polishing with a dremel? Thanks. George Strickler New Orleans --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Clothing
I want to second the Foxwear recommendation. Lou's stuff can't be beat for the outer layer. He also sells some fleece type stuff but I haven't tried that. He will work with you until he gets you exactly what you want. George Strickler New Orleans On Oct 3, 8:27 pm, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: I usually use a smartwool long sleeve shirt with a Showers Pass Touring jacket. This is good down to temps of about zero Fahrenheit on my five mile commute. On my head I can't say enough good things about my Walz wool cap with earflaps. Under my helmet no problems done to zero. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 3:30 PM, geezer bair.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I'm looking to improve my winter wardrobe this year. I'm specifically looking for a jacket and pants that work well for riding - somewhat trim, zippers for ventilation etc. I live in northern Michigan (the home of miserable winters) so, realistically, I'll park the bike when it hits around 20 degrees and/or the snow and ice become glacial. I'm willing to spend some bucks on this stuff. I understand layering - I'm mostly interested in outerwear. I'll do the research - just point me in a direction for stuff that has worked for you. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions, Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Curious: Was it me, or the Quickbeam?
I've noticed that when I'm riding my Rambouillet or one of the vintage bikes, younger cyclists will often say things like hang in their Pops or Mr. can we get by on the left? When I'm riding the all black fixed-gear with bullhorns, they say things like Dude! Rad ride or Pink! GeorgeS On Sep 7, 7:02 pm, Ray r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: So I'm cruising along on the Quickbeam this morning, looping Paradise Point via Seminary drive (for you Marin County folks) when I hear a very friendly voice from behind say On your left, sir. I pull a bit to the right, and thank the first of two twenty-something women who blast right by me on carbon road bikes. Initially, I was grateful for the call-out. There's not nearly as much of that etiquette among the cycling folks as there once was. But, then I think to myself, Sir? Now, don't get me wrong. That young woman was a very courteous and considerate, but Sir? Now, I was wearing a cycling cap under my helmet, so my short gray hair was not evident; I was wearing a Swobo wool cycling jersey -- Swobo is a very hip local company; I was wearing Shimano cycling shoes; I was wearing dark, wrap-around shades so my crow's feet were not evident around my eyes; it wasn't a grade, so I wasn't puffing and wheezing, so why did she call me Sir? The only logical conclusion -- in my mind -- is because of the QB. She saw an old classic bike, replete with front basket, Brooks honey leather seat, and a NS banana bag, frame pump, and 35mm tires and must have figured, old bike/old guy! Regardless, I would have been much more at ease with Fella, Guy, Man, even Dude or Bro … but Sir? Now I do feel old… Was it me, or the QB? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv Reader #42
Is there no online archive of past Riv Readers? GeorgeS On Sep 4, 7:48 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: The Riv Reader is always worth the wait. The articles and interviews by Grant are, of course, interesting and informative. It is especially useful as a way to keep up with the Rivendell community and future projects. By the way, I have most of the Riv Readers, starting with issue 1 (the green cover issue..). I'm missing RR #31 and RR33-36, if anyone has extra copies or wishes to sell (or trade) for those issues please contact me off-list. Jim On Sep 4, 5:46 am, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mike, RR42 is in the works, and coming along. We are shooting for September, most likely. October, maybe. Thank you for your patience. Cheers, John at Rivendell On Sep 3, 8:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't RR #42 supposed to come out in August? Anyone have any inside info on when it will be available? --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet
Back in the day our standard setup was 52/50 unless we were going north to the hills when we went 52/48 or 46. Real men (not me) sprung for the 55 big one. GeorgeS On Sep 1, 4:51 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: It's weird to feel that 50t is big considering for years I rode a bike with a double that was 53/39 but it just does. I'm not so concerned with chasing people down. Sure, I get a bit spun out on descents but I'm fine with that. I'm able to go more than fast enough. I just ordered a 46. Worse that happens is I don't like it and just save the 46t ring and maybe jump up to 48. I won't be going back to 50 though. Now if only I could get a 30t ring on the inside... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Friday fun. Remember fake vomit?
The Center for Disease Control in Atlanta might be interested. GeorgeS On Aug 7, 12:05 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Now, what we have here is some classic original gum rubber! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306...@n07/3797330186/sizes/o/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Surly Cross Check sizing question
I ride a Rambouillet and a Traveler's Check. They're both good bikes and they are approximately the same size. I ride a 56cm frame and when I bought the Surly I ordered the closesst frame to that size: BB to top of seat tube. This is a dumb question but I'm going to ask it anyway. How does one size a bike by the length of the top tube? Don't you always have to measure the seat tube or the stand-over height? Seeking enlightenment. GeorgeS On Jul 2, 11:54 pm, Dan Abelson abelson@gmail.com wrote: I have a 54cm Quickbeam and ride a 52cm Crosscheck. The top tube feels a bit shorter on the Crosscheck but both fit. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: For those of you who ride a Rivendell, and also ride a Surly Cross Check or Travelers Check, what are the sizing differences? It looks like top tube is going to be the best bet on sizing a Surly, but if you know of any amazing secrets, please let me in! I'm currently trying to decide whether or not to couple one of my Rivs for all the travel I do, or to just build up a Surly Travelers Check. Thanks, Gino- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Fender installation help
I use the same fenders on my Rambouillet. I obtained a longer bolt from Peter White. GeorgeS On Jul 2, 3:31 pm, hihi jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: Hi all, I'm installing Berthoud stainless fenders on my Atlantis with 26 x 1.5 inch wheels. It looks like the supplied Daruma bolt (http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-177/Berthoud-Daruma-Bolt/Detail) for attaching the front fender is going to be a bit short. I'd rather not use an L-bracket so I'm trying to come up with novel solutions. Does anyone have any ideas that have worked for them? I did find this: http://www.mcmaster.com/#3796k11/=2kngsn Any opinions from more experience mechanics / fender installers about whether this will work? I'd love an opinion! Looks like an M6 bolt will pass through the hole. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Since I Just Alluded to It On My Sig Line...
Not even a close question. Get a reference for a good personal injury lawyer and talk to him/her. Just think about how much money you would charge to suffer this kind of injury voluntarily. PS, temporary disability, out-of-pocket loss, hedonic damage - it will be significant. Georges On Jul 1, 10:00 pm, Ethan Bickford ethan.bickf...@gmail.com wrote: Ouchy. I hope you make a speedy and complete recovery! I got doored a few years ago. Took the corner of the car door right in the crook of my arm (not quite the arm pit but close.) Nearly severed my right bicep. I was pretty lucky though, no permanent damage other than a pretty wicked looking scar. Also it's an ugly thing to deal with but I would look into a lawyer. Lost work time, quality of life, etc... etc... adds up. I don't like our litigious society but this is definitely a case of negligence that caused some pretty intense bodily harm. Take care of yourself. It's easy to blow off some of these issues but it's really important to get everything taken care of and documented. Even if you don't file any kind of lawsuit you want to be able to file with the driver's insurance company so you're compensated. Good luck and get well soon! Ethan On Jul 1, 3:41 pm, Darren Stone dst...@bitmason.com wrote: Brutal. I know almost exactly what you're going through. I took a door edge to the back of the right hand about 17 years ago on a fast training ride. It was a drunk who flung his door open into my lane. He had more problems walking away unassisted than I did at the scene. I got away with hairline fractures in the metacarpals and a lot of swelling. Make sure you get opinions and seek therapy that you believe in... hands are important! Good wishes. -Darren. On Jul 1, 10:50 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Got doored on my way home from work Monday evening. Caught it on the right paw, which put me on the ground pretty darned quickly. http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=368 I'll probably write something longer when typing isn't such a PITA. If you click through the image, there are some photos of picking up the Quickbeam from the police the next day. I had my wife take some photos of the sewing job. Haven't posted that and I'll probably spare all's y'all from that image. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] More Problems with Gravel
Last week I posted a question about tires for gravel. Thanks for the response. I've gone with the consensus and ordered a pair of Pasela's w/o TG. Since then, I've had two kind of scary falls, both in exactly the same situation - fast descent on dirt/gravel road with sweeping right turn at the bottom. In both cases there was loose stuff in the turn and my rear wheel just slid out and I was down. Got some road burn but no real damage other than to my dignity. Is it possible this is the result of having the wrong tires, or (what seems more likely) I just don't know how to handle this situation. I don't like the idea of just riding the brake every time I start going down - takes some of the fun out of it. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel
Well. The consensus seems to be that it's my fault. This is not exactly what I was looking for. Doesn't anyone want to suggest special gravel wheels or, even better, a new frame of the country variety? I mean I fell twice. Should be some equipment here that I could explain to my wife is critical to my safety. Thanks though for the input. GeorgeS On Jun 29, 12:19 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 6/29/09 2:56 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote: Last week I posted a question about tires for gravel. Thanks for the response. I've gone with the consensus and ordered a pair of Pasela's w/o TG. Since then, I've had two kind of scary falls, both in exactly the same situation - fast descent on dirt/gravel road with sweeping right turn at the bottom. In both cases there was loose stuff in the turn and my rear wheel just slid out and I was down. Got some road burn but no real damage other than to my dignity. Is it possible this is the result of having the wrong tires, or (what seems more likely) I just don't know how to handle this situation. I don't like the idea of just riding the brake every time I start going down - takes some of the fun out of it. Gravel can be pretty tricky. Here are a few thoughts which may (or may not) help. (Disclaimer - I've logged a few hours on mtb's and trails, spent more than a few hours cleaning up wounds and spent a goodly amount of time pondering what I did wrong while lying in a dusty, sweaty heap on the trailside.) My elbow/trail interface sessions usually happen when I've been riding a lot of good, grippy pavement and then get onto a dry, loose trail. I brake too hard, at the wrong time and expect more adhesion out of my tires. Relaxation will cure a lot of evils. Your bike basically wants to stay upright and your mass is moving forward, so if you can keep loose and get the bike back under you, chances are you'll come out of it OK. There are countless times when I've seen riders just barely start to break the rear wheel loose when they either go rigid or just figure it's all over. End result is a cloud of dust and dermal abrasion. If you find some of the classic Repack footage, you can see good examples of bikes getting way sideways under riders. Granted, there may have been relaxation assistance but the riding skills are significant. http://sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/mtbwelcome.htmhttp://www.klunkerz.com/ You'll need some technique. It's important to know when you'll lose adhesion. I'll stab the rear brake a bit when I'm under control to see what I can get away with on a given trail. Remember, as soon as you start skidding, you're accellerating. You are better off scrubbing speed before you need to. I'd probably play a little with both front and rear skidding conditions so that you get used to it and don't think that the game's over just because your tire isn't locked onto the road surface. Look where you want to go. As soon as you look at the ground, you'll go down. If you opt for the tripod approach, get your foot ahead of you, punch the ground hard and get it back on the pedal quickly. If you went down without touching the brakes, then you went in with too much speed for your conditions and abilities. If you tapped the brakes and found yourself looking at the sky, you braked too hard and didn't keep the bike under you. There should be little, if any weight on your saddle whilst engaging in loose condition descending. hope that helps! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Tires for Gravel
I don't regularly ride on dirt or gravel except when I come to Vermont in the summer. Now I'm riding on gravel all the time and I find descents in particular very unpleasant. Lots of bouncing around and skittishness. One of my bikes has 700c Grand Bois tires and the other has Ruffy Tuffy's. I have plenty of clearance on both bikes. Are there tires that will make me feel more comfortable that won't break the bank? Jack Browns? Fatty somethings? GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
OK. I'll give the wool one's a try. My wife may not recognize me outside of Jockey cotton briefs which I've been wearing since I've been wearing underwear. G On Jun 23, 10:52 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Depends on what underwear you wear. I find wool boxers to be great under MUSA shorts and eschew chamois unless I'm on an as yet unbroken in leather saddle. The thin merino shorts from RBW are excellent when you want something light. I have a couple of pairs of these. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/clothing?a=1page=4#product=22-606 And there are offerings from Ibex and other places to look at as well. I've had great service from UK Army surplus boxers: Undyed wool, and I had to use a safety pin to keep the fly closed while riding. YMMV http://www.northdoorway.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=3402373 In non wool, these Champion Active Fit briefs (got mine for less at Costco) are surprisingly good. http://www.boxerbriefs.com/eshop/10browse.asp?category=Champion I agree on the Bag Balm or other friction reducer on rides over about 10 miles. From: GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:02:57 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA That said, these thingsare designed for use with underwear. If I'm going to be on a bike for more than an hour, I don't want underwear. I want chamoi (sp?) or it's new-age equivalent and a load of goop. Nothing worse than a wad of underwear in the wrong place and you've still got 40 miles to go. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order
No Tweed bags are on the web catalogue. How does one know whether they are available? GeorgeS On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com wrote: I ordered mine on thursday to go with the tweed big loafer i received last week. On Jun 20, 2:18 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: One benefit of this list is that someone, who can't sleep for whatever reason, is keeping an eye peeled on activity inside the stockade in Walnut Creek. The early reports sure give us a chance to grab items which may sometimes be limited in supply. I read about the not-exactly-to-spec tweed Keven's bags in an earlier post and pulled the trigger on one. As long as UPS was coming, I grabbed some pedals too. An older pair I have is just not right for me. Anyway, I was delighted to find some bags still in stock and expect to hang it, 45 deg and all, under the saddle of my green Saluki, when only a small space to stash a wallet and phone, keys and etc is needed, and in conjunction with something else on the front rack when there is more to tote. Hope to get some pics of it at work soon.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire
I am unfamiliar with Gorilla tape and Flataway. They're both adhesive tapes? Do they change the feel of the tires? What's the tradeoff? Thanks. GeorgeS On Jun 18, 9:06 am, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: With regard to puncture resistance, I highly recommend spending $4 on a roll of one inch Gorilla tape and applying it to the inside of the tire in the same way you'd apply the now very expensive Panaracer Flataway. I have it on my Hetres and it's doing a fine job. On Jun 13, 11:24 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I'm now riding GB Cypres on my Rambouilett. The best feel of any clincher I've ever ridden. Seems to me comparable to the way a good more robust tubular like a Clement Paris-Robaix used to feel. But that's so long ago and my memory is so bad that my credibility is, as they say in court, suspect. In any event, I really like the tire. They are definitely not as puncture resistant as the tires they replaced - RuffyTuffys. Several flats in 200 miles. Small bits of glass. For now the trade-off is worth it. GeorgeS On Jun 11, 10:24 am, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: A little over a year ago, I made a few statements comparing tires based on theory. I was wrong. http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/ca91f41f70f6d57a I now have a few hundred miles on a pair of 584X32mm (actual 30mm) Grand Bois Cypres tires (same wheels, bicycle, etc.) and can positively say, with back to back comparison, that there is a noticeable difference in feel between the similar Maxy Fasty tires. The most accurate comparison I can provide is: The Maxy Fasty's feel like riding over suede whereas the Cypres' feel like riding over velvet. Of course, the Cypres' lighter casing and thinner tread is a trade off for durability. That analysis is for each rider to determine on their own. For me, that means riding the MF's for utility, errands, commuting, and shorter rides; and saving the Cypres for my longer, weekend rides. Just wanted to set the record straight and acknowledge my previous error. John McMurry Burlington, VT- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Funny question this morning? (version 2: digital shifting)
I was in a parking lot getting everything together for a century in the Fall. A teenager, decked out head to toe in lycra, came over to look at my Rambouilett. He said his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked like when he (the father) was a kid. GeorgeS On Jun 11, 11:14 am, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: About six years ago I was on a ride in Solvang. I was on my Kestrel 4000 (the original Kestrel with the really large aero-shped tubes) with a Campy C-Record group. I caught a couple of other riders, both in their 20s, both on modern bikes with integrated shifting, etc. I reached down to shift gears (down tube) and one of the guys looked over and asked me is that that new digital shifting? I responded huh? He said, that digital shifting again. I then realized that my down tube shifters, with the derailleur cables routed through the frame, were confusing him. Mavic or somebody had put out an electronic shifting system of some sort around that time and apparently this guy thought I must be using that, because he'd never before seen this radical shifting system I was using. I responded, no, this is friction 7-speed shifting, This bike is from 1990. To which he replied, but that's a carbon bike I said yes, carbon's been around since at least the early 80s. At that point his eyes glazed over and I veered onto a different road. On Jun 8, 10:33 am, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I thought I'd share a comical moment from my morning commute: I was riding alongside another commuter (he on a Specialized Roubaix Carbon bike, me on my Riv) when he looked my bike over and asked what that extra tube was for. What extra tube? I asked. The one under the top tube. he replied. It took me a few seconds to figure out that he was referrring to my frame pump. Wow! Have a great Monday, Joe _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new front racks?
My bike is a Rambouilllet with shimano sidepulls. I would like to avoid P-clamps. It looks like the Mark rack from RBW might work. Thanks. GeorgeS On Jun 4, 8:33 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 05:21 -0700, GeorgeS wrote: I have never used a front bag but I'm going to experiment this summer with one of those boxy bags with the map case on top. There is a bewildering variety of front racks. What factors should I be considering? I want something I can mount a light (edelux) on. Suggestions? Questions? What brakes do you have? The answer to that will narrow the choice of racks. What fork mounting points does the bike in question have, and how do you feel about P-clamps? That will narrow the range even further. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new front racks?
I have never used a front bag but I'm going to experiment this summer with one of those boxy bags with the map case on top. There is a bewildering variety of front racks. What factors should I be considering? I want something I can mount a light (edelux) on. Suggestions? Questions? George S On Jun 3, 4:43 pm, j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: I already have a VO porteur rack, and love it. I'm still looking for the perfect bag. What I first wanted was one of the Hershberger baskets that sat on the porteur, but those aren't being made any longer. I also considered a Zugster porteur bag, but their waiting list is ridiculously long. I've considered making my own crate or ordering a custom basket, but am still searching... So now that Riv seems to have these racks coming, does anyone know if they plan to make a bag for it? John On Jun 3, 10:46 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Riv (grant?) mentions it in their (his?) latest Knothole post, in describing the new pictures in the rotation on the main page. It looks nice, like a campee touring rack with an extended porteur style platform. It looks great, and I assume it'll come out somewhere in the $200 price point, given the current price of the campee rack. I guess it'll compete with the VO porteur, Pass and Stow, etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Polishing Frenzy
I am impressed. What did you polish with? George On May 31, 12:31 am, John Ferguson rfj1...@yahoo.com wrote: I hurt my knee somehow on a transatlantic flight...so I spent a few evenings on bicycle maintenance and my third-favorite activity, polishing. The results are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397...@n06/sets/72157615351530151/ I hope this impresses someone, because my girlfriend certainly wasn't impressed. :-) John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tail wagging the dog?
I used to use an old racing bike as a commuter. It wasn't comfortable and required lots of attention. I have come around to the view that, since I'm on the commuter every day and probably spend more time on it than any of my other bikes, I should use the best stuff for that purpose that I can afford. On my current commuter, I've got a well- used B17, good 26 wheels with Marathon XR tires and a Rohloff hub. On May 30, 4:50 am, Shakesbiker pbdemar...@gmail.com wrote: I am sorely tempted to buy the ultimate touring wheelset available from the Riv. web specials site. It would be used to convert 27 to the more readily available 700 wheels on an old Centurion Pro Tour. My dilema? Since I recently bought a (new to me) Saluki, I had planned on relogating the Centurion to a commuting / rain bike. The wheels with Phil hub and Schmidt Son 28 would be worth a lot more than the bike. Am I foolish? Thoughts and/or advise would be appreciated. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pricing Rambouillet frame?
This is slightly off point but what do you guys mean by custom paint? I bought a Rambouillet in 2005 and it is blue. I wanted an orange one but those had sold out and I was told that if I didn't want blue, I could buy a Trek. Other colors were available? On May 19, 8:14 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Was that the Austin, TX CL listed one? Kicking myself till it hurts for not jumping on that... On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The question is not what it is worth, but what you are willing to accept, how long you can wait, etc. To the right buyer, who wants that exact thing, even a high price will seem fair, but that person may not come along right away. For a quick sale, ask $800, and it should sell pretty fast. The couplers, custom paint, and the no-longer-made status are not clear-cut add-ons to the sale price, because not everybody wants the added features, not everybody will like the custom color, and RBW isn't exactly advertising the Rambouillet much these days. For some perspective, a friend of mine just picked up a coupled Atlantis, in a prime size, with custom paint, in nice condition. This was a complete bike, not just a frameset, and he paid MUCH less than $1600, incl s/h. Granted, this was an extra-good deal, but that is your competition. If I was selling this, I'd start it on ebay with a buy-it-now of $2200 or whatever you think is minimally extravagant, and to sweeten the deal and reduce the number of questions, I'd offer free shipping in the continental US. Then I'd reduce the price a little bit every day or two, until you reach your bottom line or it sells. On May 19, 8:31 am, Timothy Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, This is perhaps a strange question but I am hoping to draw on the list's collective experience and wisdom as I try to figure out what price to ask for a frame. It is a 58 cm Rambouillet in fine shape with SS couplers. New total cost including couplers and custom forest green paint was about $2200+. Another hard to figure in factor is that the Rambouillet, as you know, is no longer available. Any ideas about how to price fairly? Thanks, Tim Whalen Santa Fe -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: ICF Time Trial Rule Changes
The UCI is fighting a loosing battle. Whatever the rules are, competitors and the people that support them, will find a way to tweak the equipment for some small advantage that may loom large at the finish line or judging stand. Have you seen the suits that Speedo is making for swimmers? The kinds of guns used by our international trap team? GeorgeS On May 6, 11:01 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Its always interesting how equipment improvements become the unfair advantage. I've seen these equipment races in other sports and they often result in some giving up because they can't complete financially. If you ask me, I think all the bicycles should be the same and riders should not be able to have support cars and they should have to repair their own bike just like they did in the early days. Of course then there wouldn't be as much money in it but then again the vintage style might attract more participation. At least it would be more interesting to watch. I'd love to see riders on the side of the road fixing flats and bending their forks straight between two fence rails! Imagine how the style of bike might look. It would probably be something like Riv sells with less flat prone tires and a steel frame. On May 5, 2:23 pm, Rambouilleting Utahn glam...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting article in today's Times regarding the International Cycling Federation's rules changes regarding time trial bikes. Cycling Braces for More Turmoil in Equipment Crackdown www.nytimes.com/2009/05/06/sports/othersports/06cycling.html Obligatory Riv content: better trickle down technology? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Riv-ish sighting in NOLA
One has to TRAIN for NOLA streets. Ride a fixie with 700x23's and a Brooks Pro around here for a couple of months and then get on your bike with Ruffy Tuffys. You'll be amazed at how great it feels. I have Ruffy Tuffy's on my Rambouillet and I go months w/o having to true a wheel. I must admit, however, that most of my commuting is done on a bike with 26 wheels equipped with Marathon XR's that look like they would be at home on a motorcycle. Let me know the next time you're in town and I'll show you our smooth street. GeorgeS On May 4, 7:03 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey David, That'd be me on the Trek and Claire on the LHT. We had a great time pedaling 'round the city during JazzFest. So glad we took some bikes with us. While the SS fit the bill perfectly for NOLA, Ruffy Tuffy's have no business whatsoever in the city. ;^) It had been almost 10 years since my last visit, and oh boy, had I forgotten about the roads. Next year I'll definitely be straddling my Big Apples, Albatrosses, and sprung Brooks. If you're local, or will be there for JazzFest next year, I'd be up for a New Orleans style Riv ride. Cheers! -Jay Asheville, NC On May 3, 8:17 pm, carnerda...@bellsouth.net carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote: Came across two bicycles locked up on Jackson square in New Orleans a little past noon today. Vintage Trek converted to SS with dirt-drop stem, moustache handlebar and speed-blend tires. Surly LHT with cloth tape wrapped drop bars. Both bikes had Grip-King pedals and wald baskets. Anyone on this list? David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?
What will happen if one shellacs regular handle bar tape? The non- cork rubber-like stuff sold by SRAM? On Apr 30, 9:32 pm, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: Actually, maintenance-wise, the shellac keeps the cork in good shape much longer. The edges of the tape don't roll and the cork doesn't get grimy. After a single, two week-long tour, the tan cork on my wife's bike looked like crap. I'm going on the 3rd year with shellac'd cork tape on my Atlantis with lots of miles, including two month-long tours. Perhaps a point of interest for some of you: I used amber shellac on some black Cinelli cork tape. At first, I wasn't happy with the result because I was looking for a shiny black effect. However, the tape ended up looking very much like the leather on my black brooks saddle. I used some black hemp twine to finish the job - looks great! Dave On Apr 30, 6:01 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Eric, I recently shellaced the cork grips on my All-Rounder. I think they look much nicer (deep, rich, amber color), they still feel just as cushy. With wool gloves (worn off rubber dots) they are a bit more slippery, with standard leather cycling gloves or bare hands its fine. Angus On Apr 30, 6:51 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: What are the pros and cons of doing it? The Hillborne build will have cork tape. Should I shellac the entire thing, or just the twine? Mainly wondering if the cushiness of the cork will be compromised. And/or if the shellac will flake off at a pretty good clip. Figure the look would be nice, but don't want it to become a maintenance headache. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Chain Problem
I would normally suspect that my son had screwed the chains up in installation, but both chains were installed by Mt. Airy Bikes in Maryland where he purchased the bike. They would not make the same mistake twice. GeorgeS On Apr 29, 1:07 pm, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: I have had a fair number of chains break for one reason or another over the years. Most were due to not using the right pin for the shimano chains when they went to the special pins. I try to avoid using the special pin chains and use the masterlink types almost exclusively, thus this failure never happens anymore to me. At least one was broken due to particularly inelegant shifts that have actually bent the chain and caused a plate to come off a pin. Also having a single speed chain derail when you take a power stroke can put a kink in it, probably leading to a bent or broken chain. I had this one happen a few weeks ago:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com/2009/03/never-done-this-before.html I am guessing this was a minorly tweaked chain from a derailment that failed in fatigue over time. I have had things like that happen before on my single speed mountain bike and cross bike which caused the chain to separate completely with bits of broken in half plates attached to the chain. Sometimes it looks like the crack started on a logo stamped on the plate. This one I rode home, before I figured it out what was going on, it was obviously bent, but I did not realize it was separated until I got hoime. Kind of neat. I think breaking or bending chains is fairly common. I am always surprised when people say they have never heard of it happening. Mostly due to installation error at some point, but you see all sorts of things when you ride lots of different bikes over lots of different conditions, and when you work at a shop that look to be due to defects in the plates, or maybe hitting something big or inelegant shifting under load. My favorite one was when I was on a group ride in the rain and a buddies chain came off and slid a few feet and neatly disappeared into a gutter. He took the BART home from that ride. Anyhow, it happens. Make sure you install it correctly and make sure you replace bent chains before they crack/depin. Tarik On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Similar thing happened to one of my touring buds a couple of weeks ago. It was a 9 speed and he's a big guy who pounds the pedals. First time was on a climb and he was able to take out the offending link to get going. Later in the same ride it started making noise on a flat section and he found one of the outer plates hanging loose, just waiting to fall off. As far as I know, he just replaced the chain and did not find any obvious cause. I've never had a chain fail but have seen it happen, usually older bikes that have been neglected. Never on one such as your son has. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:03 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Query Concerning Chain Problem My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[RBW] Re: Do Pacenti Quasi-Motos fit on a Bleriot?
What is a pacenti quasi-moto? On Apr 30, 1:08 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: yea or nea -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Query Concerning Chain Problem
My son has a Romulus he purchased about six months ago. Several weeks ago he was out on a long ride and his chain broke. I have been riding bikes a long time and I've never had a chain actually break in use and I've never known anyone who has had that happen. He said that on examination the outside plate simply peeled back at several places and separated from the pin. That left the inner plate holding the chain together and then that went. He said he did not hear any noise until shortly before the chain broke and it was obviously the plates hitting the RD cage. He took the bike back to the bike store where he bought it and they said they had never seen such a thing and put it off to a defective chain which they replaced and sent him on his way. On Sunday the same problem started to happen. After about 30 miles he said he started to see the plate on the outside start peeling back at three points on the chain. This time he was able to get back to the car before the chain broke. The bike store kept the bike to show to their ace mechanic and my son is supposed to pick it up later in the week. Anyone ever heard anything like this? The cranks are Sugino and the derailliers are 105's. He is riding on good roads in Maryland right out of DC. GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
I rode a century in the Fall. In the parking lot at the start I was pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked like when he (the father) was a kid. My favorite line in this genre, however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike, a tout terrain I got from Peter White. It is equipped with a Rohloff hub. Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked why I can't afford a modern bike. I just don't have the energy to try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season. GeorgeS On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
