Thanks so much for the helpful input.  For some strange reason my post
asking for advice took a week to actually appear on the forum; I assume
because it was my first submission, and it had to pass through moderators .

In the mean time, I was finally able to get a hold of Jarrod at Hope
Cyclery, and the dark gold XL Susie leftover - posted on this forum - was
still for sale.  I made a snap decision to snap it up, and it should be
delivered to me early this week.  I’m geeked.

If this hadn’t worked out, I may have gone with a Clem L, and enjoyed it
for whatever terrain versatility it offered.

Meanwhile, the fate of the Krampus (and all of the adolescent risk taking
it engenders) would still be up in the air - and perhaps be the subject of
my next post . . . “When is it time to ride like the fragile old timer you
are?”.

Love being associated with Riv and this bunch.

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 4:15 PM Christian B-H <beit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Welcome, Gregger!
>
> I have a Platy as my only riv, which I bought as a third option late
> because I missed the Gus boat in Dec 2021 and the Atlantis boat in April
> 2022. I mostly use the Platy for groceries, baby hauling and mixed gravel
> but occasionally ride it on more Rocky Mountain bike trails here in
> Boulder, CO. I KNOW I should be more careful and I USUALLY don’t have a
> problem, but I do almost always accidentally pedal strike on the Platy.
> Neither my Kona Rove nor my Karate Monkey have such a low bottom bracket,
> and my experience generally has been that it’s safer to use the right tool
> for the job.
>
> What I’m saying is, ride the Krampus rigid (and maybe single speed) if you
> want to slow down a bit, and ALSO get  the new Susie or the purple Platy
> you’re fond of. They won’t go unridden!
>
> Happy pondering,
>
> Christian
>
> On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 1:57:27 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve not ridden a Platypus but I’ve yet to hear it described as a trail
>> bike. Love, love, love my Clem on & off road but if things get dicey it’s a
>> bit overwhelmed with the lower bottom bracket - compared to my Gus. The Gus
>> or the new Susie (get one! Run do not walk!) are singletrack machines. Yes
>> they are good for other duties as well but are conceived & built to be
>> mountain bikes. I am blown away by it on rough, rooty & slightly rocky
>> singletrack. It is every bit the mountain bike that a Jones is (I had one)
>> which is of course highly regarded in that category. I’ve yet to experience
>> a pedal strike on the Gus. I’ve had quite a few on the Clem. And I am
>> pretty decent at avoiding them if I do say so. So, IMHO if what you are
>> looking for is a singletrack bike get the new Susie or try to find a
>> leftover one/Gus.
>> FWIW, I am closing on 69 years old & have ditched my full suspension bike
>> in favor of the Gus. As you allude to, I am a bit less aggressive on the
>> Gus vs. the Ibis. I think that’s is smarter at my age. No less fun though.:)
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2024, at 11:51 AM, Gregger <gregharr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Long time listener, first time caller.
>>
>>
>> It's a bit hard to tell if you lovely folks on this forum enjoy or loathe
>> these "help me pick a bike" posts - there are a lot of them - but I really
>> would greatly appreciate your input on my situation.  I bought a Leo
>> Roadini a while back (my first Riv) and love it for pavement and gravel
>> roads.  I now want to look into a trail bike for everything from dirt paths
>> to midwestern single track (grounded and cautious - I'm 62 years).
>>
>> So, I'm torn between a Platypus (love the aesthetics) and a Clem L (the
>> ride experience is evidently sublime?). Or should I wait for the new
>> stouter Susie to arrive (did I mention I weigh 205 lbs?).  I only ride for
>> exercise a couple of hours a day, so no lugging weight on racks or bags . .
>> .  would I overwhelm the Platypus frame in the woods?  Would the Clem have
>> the ground clearance for roots and rocks?
>>
>> Obviously the Susie would be the safe and conservative choice, but I'm
>> not a very patient person (this May? Any guarantees?), and I really do love
>> the purple Platypus available currently.  The Clem L would offer a slightly
>> larger tire clearance, and the low(ish) bottom bracket height would likely
>> be sufficient 94.3 % of the time; and tig welds are just fine with me
>> (sorry for the hurt feelings).
>>
>> Or, a forth option - to be truly difficult, should I keep riding my Surly
>> Krampus in the woods and continue to risk wiping out and injuring myself -
>> it just demands to be ridden with abandon, and I scare myself.  That's my
>> problem I guess, not the bike's.
>>
>> Thank you so much in advance.  I know I've probably left out relevant
>> information, but I've tried to keep this somewhat short.  Fail.
>>
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