Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Jack Newcomb]

Also heres a 61cm roadini in orange for 2500
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/south-colby-rivendell-roadini-61cm/7730137923.html

On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 9:48:01 PM UTC-7 Jack Newcomb wrote:

>
> iirc the pricing was even worse the last time they listed it. sad to see
> On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 8:17:37 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> That 51 on CL Seattle: pricing is nuts. Seems like a common theme with 
>> Rivs for sale. 
>>
>> On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 1:25:55 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The 51cm Atlantis from Seattle that Matti posted is a newer style MIT 
>>> Atlantis made for 650b wheels. While I still think the one in question is 
>>> possibly also a 51cm, it’s a Toyo model made for 26” wheels. My frame of 
>>> reference is usually the amount of headtube space between the top tube and 
>>> down tube. If there’s a pump peg, that gives you an even better reference 
>>> point for eyeing up the size of a frame.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Jack Newcomb]

iirc the pricing was even worse the last time they listed it. sad to see
On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 8:17:37 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> That 51 on CL Seattle: pricing is nuts. Seems like a common theme with 
> Rivs for sale. 
>
> On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 1:25:55 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The 51cm Atlantis from Seattle that Matti posted is a newer style MIT 
>> Atlantis made for 650b wheels. While I still think the one in question is 
>> possibly also a 51cm, it’s a Toyo model made for 26” wheels. My frame of 
>> reference is usually the amount of headtube space between the top tube and 
>> down tube. If there’s a pump peg, that gives you an even better reference 
>> point for eyeing up the size of a frame.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: V-Brake Measurement Request

[Jack Newcomb]

Here's my deore xt v brakes on my latest revision sam hillborne. In person 
i measured 10.5 cm to the top of the brake arm 
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:25:30 AM UTC-7 George Rosselle wrote:

> I have a similar set up on an old Fat Chance, and it is 4 1/4" to the top 
> of the straddle wire on the brakes. So it will not make it under your rack 
> but might clear over the top of it.
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:43:17 PM UTC-4 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>> By any chance, are you running v-brakes AND a front rack? If so, would 
>> you mind taking some measurements?
>>
>> My Sam is setup with a Nitto M12 front rack and some cantilever brakes. 
>> I'd like to swap over to v-brakes however I want to make sure there's 
>> enough clearance.
>>
>> [image: IMG_1796.JPG]
>>
>> Looks like I've got a solid 3.75 inches from the center of the brake 
>> posts to the bottom of the rack. I'm hoping v-brake wires will fit 
>> underneath (or above) the rack post without interference. When looking at 
>> images online, and on the Riv site, it looks like the wire pass right in 
>> front of the fork crown hole.
>>
>> If you're got v-brakes, could you take a measurement and let me know? 
>>
>> Many thanks in advance, 
>> Tony
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Jack Newcomb]

It looks bigger than a 57 to me though. 

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:24:10 AM UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> That Hillborne seems very cheap for a complete bike. 
>
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:01:32 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> SAM HILLBORNE
>> 57cm
>> 1200
>> San Francisco, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/portola-valley-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7657012769.html
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Campee 27F rack vs rack combos

[Jack Newcomb]

I've been waiting for the 27F to come back for almost a year now. Say it 
aint so!

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 11:28:01 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I believe the 27F is out of production as is the 27R. Soma has a 27R for 
> sale…
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:25:50 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Andy Reed used three question marks:
>> 1. regarding the fact that the 27F is hard to find: "Any insights on 
>> this?"  Nope.  I always bought mine from Alex's Cycle in Japan and even 
>> they don't have it
>> 2. regarding the manufacturability: "Is it just an incredibly 
>> time-consuming rack, they only make a very small batch of them at a time?" 
>>  I'm sure it is time consuming, and I expect it's just low priority 
>> relative to other hot sellers.
>> 3. Regarding the status of the 27F: "is the Campee 27F still the GROAT 
>> and worth the wait?  I think it is indeed the superior front rack.  Whether 
>> it's worth the wait depends on the person doing the waiting.  I think that 
>> the best way to run the 27F is with rectangular panniers that are designed 
>> to fit that same size and shape.  If you've already got "normal" looking 
>> panniers from Ortlieb or similar, I think that's a weird looking setup.  I 
>> personally have one pair of Ostrich and one pair of Carradice panniers to 
>> run on my small collection of these Nitto front and rear racks.  I've got 2 
>> of the 27F fronts, one of the more burly "Mt Campee" front I think they 
>> call that the 20F.  I've also got two of the 700c rears, the 27R (or is it 
>> R27?).  
>>
>> The only way to do it better IMO is a custom that copies the setup but in 
>> lighter tubing or a more minimalist set of contact points designed around 
>> the bike.  Those top notch rack makers are in a class by themselves.  Off 
>> the shelf, the Nitto 27F is the business IMHO.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-7 andyree...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello group! 
>>> I recently purchased the Nitto Mini Campee front rack for my rando bag 
>>> with the idea of adding something like a TUBUS low rider or Marks Hub Area 
>>> rack (MF2) for pannier- carrying come S24O time. 
>>>
>>> Then I remembered Nitto's most grandiose front rack, the Campee 27F and 
>>> from my POV, that seems like the smartest, most elegant solution for a bike 
>>> that will always carry a central bag with the option of adding panniers. 
>>> The only rub is that rack is out of stock everywhere...it seems like Nitto 
>>> might not even be making it anymore *(this is pure speculation but it 
>>> also seems like VO dropped their front-camper rack as well)*. Any 
>>> insights on this? Is it just an incredibly time-consuming rack, they only 
>>> make a very small batch of them at a time? 
>>>
>>> The main reason why the Campee 27F is calling my name is that the 
>>> low-rider racks are both modular AND angled. It doesn't seem like the MF2 
>>> or Tubus offerings have that feature and I was wondering if anyone here 
>>> feels a difference in ride-quality between angled and vertical low-rider 
>>> panniers. 
>>>
>>> Would the Nitto Mini Campee and MF2 combo check all the boxes or is the 
>>> Campee 27F still the GROAT and worth the wait? 
>>>
>>> - Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Jack Newcomb]

50cm Roadini in Central WA. I'm sure this bunch will be very excited to 
hear that the owner is willing to throw in a set of carbon wheels for a 
little extra :)
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/ellensburg-rivendell-roadini/7654381016.html
On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 4:32:31 PM UTC-7 Ty wrote:

> Continuing the PNW trend. I was enlightened by the algorithm to a not well 
> advertised Rambouillet on FB marketplace in Olympia, WA 
> . 
> Spoke to the seller, they say it's a 52 CM.
>
>
> [image: Product photo of Touring Bike]
> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 8:46:22 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Rivendell Joe Appaloosa Frameset Size 46 - $1,200 (Silverdale, 
>> Washington)
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/silverdale-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7642198706.html
>>
>> In Spokane, Washington:
>> Rivendell Bleriot - $1,000 (Deer Park) from a month ago. 
>>
>> https://spokane.craigslist.org/bik/d/deer-park-rivendell-bleriot/7639080253.html
>>
>> In Portland:
>> Rivendell Cheviot 60cm - $2,000 (Inner SE) from eleven days ago.
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-cheviot-60cm/7649209115.html
>>
>> Some Bosco handlebars in Bend, Orgeon:
>>
>> https://bend.craigslist.org/bop/d/terrebonne-nitto-bosco-bars/7641296110.html
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:48:56 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Platypus F/F/HS and seatpost 
>>> 55cm, Mermaid 
>>> Quaker Hill, CT
>>> $1,500 
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/301092715785068/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post
>>>
>>> Looks like someone bought the frame and never built it up. 
>>>
>>> [image: 346011872_6483232968438237_3764094931236716795_n.jpg]
>>> On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 PSA (no relation to the seller)

 Seems like a good deal for a 60 Sam: $1,200

 [image: 00808_aN2qhuqLXYH_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]

 Rivendell Sam Hillborne 60cm - bicycles - by owner - bike sale 
 
 missoula.craigslist.org 
 

 

 Max

 On Aug 1, 2023, at 6:56 PM, Mike Packard  wrote:

 60 Cheviot frame in Austin




 https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/d/austin-60cm-rivendell-cheviot-frame/7636520917.html

 On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 11:15:34 AM UTC-7 Will M wrote:

> Thanks, Eric!  I would have offered up the QB for sale here, but it is 
> such a unicorn (and there were so few of the orange 62cm framesets made) 
> that I didn’t know how to price it and decided to let “the market” 
> decide. 
> :-)   Will M / NYC
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 11:46 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>> For thread posterity here's a pic of Will's swt Quickbeam. 
>>
>> Good luck with the sale, I've got it on my watchlist!
>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 12:52:43 PM UTC-4 dylantho...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> wow - what a QB! If only it were a 56!
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 5:05:22 PM UTC-7 Will M wrote:
>>>
 Hi all.  Along lines of this thread, my 62cm orange Quickbeam is for 
 sale on eBay right now 
 .
   
 Auction ends Sunday. Happy to do local pickup or ship.

 --Will M
 NYC


 On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 6:41:59 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Looks like a brand new 55cm Platy frame.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/301092715785068/
>
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 4:55:42 PM UTC-4 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> This appears to be an excellent deal. 51cm Appaloosa complete for 
>> $1,850
>>
>> https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/72490781
>> On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>>
>>>  7 Rivs on Craiglsist in the Northwest:
>>>
>>> *Appaloosa,  47cm*
>>> Prototype, frame built by Mark Nobilette
>>> $3200
>>> Silverdale, WA
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/silverdale-2015-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7641501704.html
>>>
>>> *Appaloosa frame set, 46cm*
>>> $1200
>>> blue
>>> Silverdale, WA
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/d/silverdale-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7642198706.html
>>>
>>> *Appaloosa, 54cm*

[RBW] Re: PSA: Thomson 26.8 Masterpiece Clearance

[Jack Newcomb]

Thanks for the insight Garth! You're totally correct of course, Riv should 
be checking this stuff. I've already talked to them about another quality 
issue I had with the frame, and they took care of me with that, so I didn't 
want to keep complaining, but I should let them know. I'll take some 
measurements and figure out how oversize it is first. I've been a 
fan/supporter of Riv for a very long time and to have these issues on my 
first frame has been a bummer for sure, but I'm confident they can be fixed.

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:47:26 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Reaming a 28.6 OD seat tube for a 27.2 ID seatpost is no big deal. 27.2 is 
> by far the most common and frequent seatpost size for all 28.6 OD steel 
> frames and been that way since I can remember, at least the early 80's. 
> It's not going to compromise anything or put the rider or the frame in any 
> danger. My '83 Stumpjumper took a 26.0 post, talk about overkill, as it was 
> a straight gauge tubing tank of a frame. 
>
> If I bought a frame from Rive that wasn't to spec the first thing I'd do 
> is call them. It's neither normal or acceptable. These things are supposed 
> to be taken care of at the time of the frame build, but it's also Riv's 
> responsibility to see that the shop is doing their job as contracted. Since 
> Riv is point of contact with the buyer, it's up to them to make it right. 
> That every frame is not checked is unbelievable, especially considering the 
> cost of the frames. Even most local bike shops will do that as part of 
> basic complimentary frame prep on new frames sold if requested.  I had a BB 
> issue with my custom Franklin in 1999 for which the builder offered to send 
> me his BB threading tool since I didn't have one. While I opted to take it 
> to a shop in Pittsburgh that I could do it myself at, I surely appreciated 
> the gesture. 
>
> Kalloy posts are really cheap. They don't use very beefy bolts either. 
> They could make the radius style post Riv often includes to be a whole lot 
> more slip resistant if the top of the post upon which the clamp sanwich 
> rests was bead blasted rather than slick. I have two vintage single bolt 
> Campy seatposts from the 80's. The Nuovo Record(NR) has the top of the post 
> bead blasted, the Super Record(SR) is polished. Guess which one slips, and 
> which one doesn't. NR for the win !  There's supposedly friction pastes 
> around for carbon fiber, but I don't know if they're applicable to aluminum 
> or not. If they are, I'd surely try some under the clamp sandwich, on the 
> top part of the post upon which it rests. Then it can't rotate so easy. 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Thomson 26.8 Masterpiece Clearance

[Jack Newcomb]

I had the same issue as you Nick and felt the same frustration. I wasn't 
sure if the seatpost was the problem, so I picked up a Thomson (elite) to 
be sure, and it had the same issue. I eventually ended up snapping the 
binder bolt because the seatpost was slipping too much, but the slightly 
longer bolt seems to be doing the job of holding my extremely average body 
weight.

Reaming has crossed my mind and I know riv uses thicker walled tubing than 
most, but I still wanted to avoid it. How has it been holding up for you? 
Do you think 27.2 is possible? I would've much rather had that size from 
the get-go, I didn't realize how rare 26.8 is becoming.

On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 1:15:36 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:

> I was a bit pissed off when I found on delivery that the latest Rivendell 
> frame I bought took a 26.8 seatpost. The three previous Riv frames I have 
> all use 27.2. And in fact, this latest frame wasn't even accurately sized 
> for 26.8 - the Kalloy seatpost that came with it, and which was a true 26.8 
> by my vernier calipers, was a slightly loose fit in the seat tube. So I 
> reamed the seat tube to 27.0 and used a 27.0 Nitto S83.
>
> Nick Payne
>

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