Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

[John S]

If that used Centurion is in your general size range, it would be a 
fantastic starting point for your road bike exploration. Refreshing an old 
frameset (whether to replace worn out parts with new ones or to improve 
fit) can be such a fun and satisfying process.

On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 9:12:57 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Since I haven't chimed in on this yet - which is unlike me - I shall do so 
> now. Don't buy bikes you don't want, don't put drops on a frame you've 
> already designed around another purpose. Do pick up a Ram or Roadini if you 
> stumble on one you love now, you can sell it later. Do grab that Gallup 
> when it becomes a reality, I think you'll adore it. 
>
> These are my big thoughts couched as commands but they are just my 
> opinions based on what I know about my friend Leah. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 6:36:01 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> My husband just now: Are you getting ANOTHER bike? 
>>
>> Me: Well…not necessarily. I have to weigh out all the pros and cons, you 
>> see.
>>
>> Him: I know how this ends. It ends with the Annual Bike Purchase of the 
>> Last Bike I’ll Ever Need.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2024, at 9:26 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Tony, I swooned. Actually swooned. Gorgeous, gorgeous.
>>
>>
>> I rode the Mon Night Ride on my Racing Platy tonight. I was so 
>> apprehensive at the start because the winds were 13 mph with 21 mph gusts 
>> and it was open road. I should not be doing this, I thought. Where is my 
>> road bike?
>>
>> But it was the best ride. Did we have wind? Yes. But somehow it was great 
>> and energizing and we just killed it. I had done an intense upper body 
>> lifting session this morning and still it was great and not draining!
>>
>> Can I prove that to you?
>> No. 
>> My Apple Watch died on the ride.  郎 
>>
>> There were men I don’t know on the ride tonight, so of course I got 
>> comments. One of them said, “I hope you never get a road bike.”
>>
>> But I just might.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:
>>
>> @Leah--Get one of these3x8 drivetrain, Nitto and Silver everywhere. 
>> Add a few bags and spend your weekends putting down mileageguaranteed 
>> to give you a million smiles and zero worries.
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 5:17:47 PM UTC-7 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Leah,
>>> Don't overthink this. It's hard to build an actual "bad" bike, and the 
>>> big names don't do it.
>>> There are bike that are too "special" in some way -- too slow- or 
>>> fast-handling, or whatever, but these are nuances. I can switch from a 
>>> crit-geometry racer to a tourer and by the end of the block, I stop 
>>> noticing it.
>>>
>>> Check out this ad:
>>>
>>> https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bid/d/grand-rapids-bike-sale-40-or-less/7731072255.html
>>>
>>> and go buy the ~51-52 cm red Centurion in the first picture.
>>> For $40, you'll have something to play with and see how the setup might 
>>> work for you.
>>> If it's rideable, it's hard to see how this is not a good idea, and if 
>>> Centurion built lousy bikes, I haven't heard of it.
>>>
>>> cheers -mathias
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 7:35:58 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>>
 When you "cut to the chase" many of us old farts on this blog started 
 riding bikes in a serious way back in the early 70's.  And the go-to 
 manual 
 for bikers back then was Eugene Sloane's "The Complete Book of Bicycling." 
  
 In that excellent instruction manual, as it were, he went to a great 
 extent 
 to appeal to the use of "drop bars" (or simply road bars by most folks 
 back 
 then) for road riders.  Of course, many different developments in cycling 
 have taken place since then, especially the introduction of the so-called 
 "hybrid bikes" with flat bars and the "mountain bikes," both of which 
 introduced different types of handlebars, tire types, and saddles.  It's a 
 bit of a lament that the regular "road bike" of the previous decades where 
 "drop bars," saddle types, gearing, tires, etc. of the previous period 
 more 
 or less disappeared in the advent of those unique biking configurations.  
 Almost every time I venture out on a bike path around these parts I mostly 
 see people riding bikes configured with a "hybrid" set up...unless, of 
 course they're riding  e-bikes, which are becoming way too commonplace 
 nowadays.  I would encourage anyone who has an inclination to pick up and 
 begin riding regular road bikes to do so.
 On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 1:16:35 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> All of these replies are interesting. And when I read one I think, 
> “Yes, that’s right” and then read another which conflicts and change my 
> mind. This is going to be a journey. I can’t even believe how much there 
> 

[RBW] Re: Campy Hub Shimano cassette??? or 34 tooth cog

[John S]

How many speeds are you running? Campy offers 11-34 cassettes for their 
12-speed groupsets, and there is now a 12-speed-compatible bar end shifter 
available through Soma.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 3:54:09 PM UTC-5 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
wrote:

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> I have a Campy hub and can't get large enough cassette. Would like a 34 
> tooth cassette
> I'm running friction shifters.
> Is there a hack that would allow me to get 34 tooth cassette on that Campy 
> hub? 
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[RBW] Re: Studs for Winter Riding?

[John S]

This has also been my experience with the Schwalbe Marathon Winter Plus 
(700c x 40mm).  The studs grip very well on the ice, but if the packed 
snow/slush gets deep down enough that the tires don't sink though to the 
ice/pavement below, the studs have nothing to bite into, and one can lose 
traction.


 Last season I had the Schwalbe Marathon version and they were great on ice 
but so so at best in the slush or any inches of snow built up. 

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[RBW] Ceramic coating the paint

[John S]

In the recent 'Who's getting a Platypus tomorrow?' thread, one list member 
mentioned "ceramic coating the paint before building [the bike] up."

I'm very interested to hear more about ceramic coating from the group's 
collective experience and wisdom. My one major frustration with my 
Rivendells has been the fragility of the paint (my AHH is acquiring 
"beausage" at an alarming rate compared with my other bikes); I'd love if 
there were a way to reduce chipping and maintain the beauty of the original 
paint for longer.

Many thanks in advance for sharing your insights and experiences.

John


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[RBW] Re: Perfection from the last newsletter

[John S]

It looks like a Panaracer Dart 
(https://www.panaracerusa.com/products/smoke-dart-classic-folding-mtb-tires-1?variant=39891591921826)


On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 10:17:18 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

Pretty gnarly tread on those tires.  
Who knows the make and model of those tires ?

Thank-you,
Kim Hetzel

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[RBW] Re: Patch or Replace a Tire?

[John S]

I have had good luck covering smallish cuts with Gorilla Tape on the inside 
of the tire.

I was able to successfully repair a tire with a larger slice in it using a 
very inexpensive radial tire patch kit (I used this one: 
https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-marine/tire-maintenance/tire-repair-products/8023916).
 
I was even able to continue running that tire tubeless.



On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 10:30:56 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Because the slice is below the knobs, I'd try sewing it up with a stout 
> nylon thread, covering the thread with a wipe of Shoegoo (inside and out) 
> and a tri-folded Clifbar wrapper (tough material) on the inside between the 
> tube and tire. This has worked well for me when living in countries where 
> tires were hard to come by.
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:21:37 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> That cut looks a bit large. You could try a tyre boot cut from an old 
>> slick tyre to see if the casing continues to herniate with the boot inside 
>> it. Or you could try a tubeless repair kit. I've used the Hutchinson 
>> Rep'Air kit on both tubeless and tubed punctures, but the cuts I fixed were 
>> not quite that large. I think the instructions with the Hutchinson claim it 
>> can be used on punctures up to 5mm size.
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
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Re: [RBW] Best Riv Rando Bike

[John S]

Here is a thread from a few years ago with additional thoughts on 
"Randonneuring on Rivendells":

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/EcVMZgXBmqY/m/Jj05ZEW4AwAJ

On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 11:15:24 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Adding to Jason's success with the Hillborne, an acquaintance here is 
> preparing for I believe his third PBP, and this year will be riding a 
> Hillborne. I have used mine for rando rides and have never been 
> disappointed.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 11:37:31 PM UTC-4 Bill Gibson wrote:
>
>> Riding PBP fixed was tremendous! You can see that at least two guys in 
>> the background appreciate the significance of a fixed gear. I, too, have 
>> converted my green Quickbeam to IGH, but a SRAM I-9 cannonball I was given, 
>> that is incredibly heavy and not really in the spirit of a green Quickbeam, 
>> but it is mostly flat here, and wind is the only foe. I will someday mess 
>> with it and go back to it's single speed root. But, for Randonneuring, I 
>> would want lighter weight, and more ratios to climb the mountain ranges out 
>> this valley. Hard to argue with a derailleur for weight, but the frame is 
>> nice for long rides. The frame is maybe too sturdy for light weight long 
>> rides, but I use it for anything.
>> Bill Gibson
>> Tempe, Arizona, USA
>> My Photographs  : 
>> https://billbgibson.myportfolio.com/ and on Behance: 
>> https://www.behance.net/BillGibson 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 2:04 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here I am crossing the finish line that year. I felt even worse than I 
>>> looked.
>>>
>>> [image: PastedGraphic-1.png]
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric - PBP on a fixed QB, wow, nice work!  I had done some 100 mile 
>>> rides on a fixed gear around the same time but nothing like that. 
>>>
>>> I would say that which Rivendell works best (and whether a Rivendell at 
>>> all is the right call) depends on your randonneuring aspirations and 
>>> priorities. I have only done a half dozen 200k's so far, so I'm just a 
>>> dabbler, but my Hillborne is perfectly suited for me despite being heavier 
>>> and slower than a Ram, presumably. My only complaint is that they should 
>>> have put third water bottle bosses under the DT; I added my own. But I am 
>>> not trying to get a competitive time - I am happy being 9:30 - 11:00h 
>>> finishing time on a 200.  I appreciate the 42mm tires with fenders and the 
>>> forgiveness they provide.  If I was more competitive I'd probably dip into 
>>> the back catalog for a Ram, Saluki, earlier Homer, or Bleriot.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 26 July 2023 at 12:42:02 UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 The roadini doesn't have front rack braze-ons. But saddlebags or 
 bikepacking style bags would definitely work.

 On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:15 PM Toshi Takeuchi  
 wrote:

> The Roadini is worth some consideration.  Many people finish PBP on 
> carbon fiber racing bikes, so you could definitely do it with a Roadini 
> and 
> have a much more comfortable and pleasant ride.  The Roadini is probably 
> better (for me) than the Roadeo because it accommodates wider tires. If I 
> were considering a current production bike, then that might be my choice 
> as 
> it balances speed and comfort.
>
> I can't remember if the Roadini has braze-ons for a front rack, but I 
> had no problem with a Mark's rack and p-clamps on my Ram and didn't have 
> any handling issues (I shared weight with a saddlebag, so it wasn't 
> "front 
> loaded").  Many people ride with a handlebar bag (without rack) for food 
> and use a saddlebag for everything else.  It is nice to stuff layers into 
> the front rack "rando" bag without having to stop, but (obviously) it is 
> not necessary.
>
> Good luck,
> Toshi
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[RBW] Re: New crank?

[John S]

Doug - There's more info, including a schematic, in the 8/25/22 "Blahg." 
It's near the end.

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/done-done-wrong-proably-still-doing-wrong

On Sunday, May 7, 2023 at 8:46:52 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> Have there been any pics or any info (other than it’s less chunky) about 
> this new crank set that’s coming out?
>
> Thanks, Doug
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Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[John S]

If you look closely, the hub is a White XMRT, which is their tandem hub 
(145mm spacing, QR, disk compatible). I wonder if the rear dropout has 145 
mm spacing, and, if so, what the rationale was for designing it that way.
 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 4:43:33 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

So did I for my A/R and Road. The mixte was pretty much all Riv-sourced as 
a complete build by Mark A and Rich-Lesnik built wheels... my retirement 
present to myself when I was flush enough to really push the boat out. I 
know that sounds indulgent but I don't regret it nor will I apologize for 
it. 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 4:23:43 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

I started with the proverbial "stuff I have" when I picked up my custom 
frame 3 years ago, I think I was rolling on the stock 650B wheels from a 
Clem. Later it got proper (non-disc) WI hubs laced to Velocity Atlas rims 
by the great Rich Lesnik 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 1:14:06 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

Matthew...thanks for asking and Joe , thanks for answering...I was 
wondering that myself...my rear WI hub doesn't have that and since I own 
nothing with disc brakes I didn't even know what a naked disc-compatible 
hub looks likeBut you can see how the disc bolts on. 

That bike almost begs for those madly expensive Onyx hubs...since I see the 
build is using what appears  to be a set of  Shimano CX-70 cantilevers. Or 
a garden-variety non-disc WI hub. ButI am nit-picking, I guess. If 
that's what I already had, given a bike north of ...8K at least

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 2:55:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

Disc mount. Maybe he already had the hub on hand. 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

Yeah, that’s a beauty!

What is this star-shaped thing with threads, on the rear wheel?

[image: wheel_star_thingy.jpg]




On Apr 15, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Ryan  wrote:

Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic.
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458_eid=0074b52ae1
 

I wonder if the custom program will ever return. I know Riv says it's a 
huge time and money sink, but I love seeing what people order for their 
customs and ogling the fine craftsmanship on display. Josh, whoever he is, 
must be thrilled after what was apparently a lengthy wait. But the result 
was worth it, judging by the pictures. 

Just sayin'

Ryan

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Re: [RBW] front derailleur on a Gus?

[John S]

Apologies if I haven't understood your question correctly, but if there is 
interference between the derailleur clamp and bottle cage, you could 
consider using these spacers to create extra clearance:
https://problemsolversbike.com/products/accessory-mounts/spaceouts_sets_-_13950

On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 4:34:04 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Pic of the FS in question.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
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> On Jan 3, 2023, at 5:32 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> Gathering parts for my Gus Build. I had this deore fd on my Clem. It 
> worked just fine but I changed it out to a nearly identical XTR for cheap. 
> So I can use the Deore on the Gus. My question; are there interference 
> issues on a Gus / Susie between a front derailleur and the seat tube water 
> bottle mounts? A quick measurement from the Clem suggests it may be close. 
> I will not know for sure until I have a crank in hand but trying to plan 
> ahead. 
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