[RBW] Re: Help me repair Pam's Silver shifters

[Michael Hammer]

The mechanism looks almost identical to the Suntour Barcon (of course) so 
broken Barcons might be a source of parts.  In addition the stem or 
downtube mounted Suntour power ratchet shifters might also have the 
spring.  See velobase 
here: 
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=39b0c9b8-10d7-4324-8bf4-f65eca2d209a=104
  
The power ratchets might be found at a bike recycling place.  Here's a 
diagram of the barcon:
[image: NOS Pair 2 SUNTOUR Bar End Shifters BAR-CON Parts Pods Body Ratchet 
Covers Tour - Picture 1 of 8]

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 6:17:05 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Great idea about 3D printing, Peter! I'll reach out to Riv on the off 
> chance they can get me the file I need. 
>
> Our local library has a maker space with a 3D scanner and 3D printers, so 
> I can go get certified and see if I can make some stuff! It's about a 5 
> minute walk for me. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:23 AM UTC-4 Peter Adler wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a task tailor-made for 3D printing. The ideal situation would 
>> be if Dia-Compe would send you the 3D file that they almost certainly have, 
>> but I'm sure that (rational) liability concerns will prevent this.
>>
>> Peter Adler
>> no longer professionally engaged in the 
>> rich-people-suing-other-rich-people industry, but still aware of the 
>> thought processes in
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-7 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>> My plan, once I locate some pawls, is to make a Silver shifter repair and 
>> maintenance video.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Romulus

[Michael Hammer]

No surprise there, bubba.


On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:01:28 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Local to me so I nabbed this one.  :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:53:38 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Amazing deal! If this was my size and there was someone willing I'd be 
>> asking for a proxy... 
>> Igor
>> -Michigan
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:15:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi bapeterson — I see the bike is available for local pickup only. You 
>>> didn't mention where you're located but guessing from your email somewhere 
>>> near Cal Berkeley? 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:46 PM UTC-4 bapet...@berkeley.edu 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Original owner. 59cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best 
 offer

 Standard Riv Build:
 105 hubs
 araya rims
 105 headset
 105 Front der
 deore rear der
 shimano std reach side pull brakes (not sure which model)
 sugino xd2 triple
 11-32 cassette
 nitto s65 seatpost
 nitto moustache bar
 nitto technomic 8cm stem
 silver bar end shifters
 tiagra brake levers

 Local pickup only. No shipping
 Cash or Venmo

 Thanks for considering



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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

[Michael Hammer]

I was going to hold back adding to this thread but now can't resist.  I was 
the original owner of a 92 RB-1 and sent it off to a new owner about 4 
months ago.  It was light, "jumped" when I got on it (consider I'm 74 when 
reading jump), climbed like crazy and handled smoothly and predictably.  
Largest tire it would take was a 28.  I got a Roadini from the last batch 
in order to get wider tires and built it up with the cockpit, drive train 
and wheels (now with 38 Gravelking slicks) from the RB-1.  It is smooth, 
agile and handles exactly like a Grant bike.  It feels noticeably heavier 
than the RB-1 when lifting it, doesn't feel heavy on the move but doesn't 
climb as well.  On a curvy, small rises, downhill switchbacks bike trail 
for 10 - 15 miles any difference in time is lost in the wind conditions.  I 
had a very early Waterford All Rounder that always felt slow compared to 
the RB-1; the Roadini doesn't.  Then a friend made a permanent loan of a 
Gunnar Crosshairs cross bike with a comparable build to the Roadini.  Aside 
from the quick handling and high bottom bracket geometry, the frame is 
great; snappy and climbs and fits 38s.  This is my first and only 
experience with a cross bike.  I second the suggestion above to consider a 
Gunnar road sport or Waterford.  If a Gunnar road bike had similar comfort, 
handling and tire size to the Roadini I'd take it in a heartbeat.  But, it 
is at least 50% more expensive than the Roadini and Gunnar/Waterford are 
shutting down.  My wife has a Black Mountain Road v2 which is a really nice 
bike and fits 32s and maybe 33.3s according to Mike Varley.  But, he 
doesn't make them anymore.  My wife's is too small to really ride, but felt 
great and RB-1 like doing loops on the driveway.  And, about as light when 
lifting into the van.  Good luck.

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 2:55:06 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Saluki/Bleriot were 650B bikes, not 700c bikes. Wheel size makes a 
> world of difference to me.
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 2:51 PM J S  wrote:
>
>> I have a question regarding the Roadini vs. the old Saluki and Bleriot 
>> bikes. I wonder how similar it is to these? I have a Sam and found a Saluki 
>> in my size so sold my Bleriot. I am not a fan of the lng chainstays, so 
>> the Sam works perfectly for someone like me. I have fat 48mm tires on it 
>> and 42’s on the Saluki. Speed is a non issue or will be when my knees let 
>> me ride again. As I get older a go fast bike would be at the bottom of my 
>> list, but I did love my old go fast bikes when I was much younger. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 9:14:40 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have really fallen for these luscious new Roadini builds I've seen at 
>>> Riv and Blue Lug.
>>>
>>> I have a Sam Hillborne and love it. It's been through several iterations 
>>> of cockpit/racks/bags/brakes/wheels/tires and all have been really fun. 
>>> Right now it has flat bars with sweep, chunky 47mm tires, and is an 
>>> excellent all around adventure/trail/camping ride. It's currently my only 
>>> bike!
>>>
>>> Before the Sam, I rode 90s road bikes exclusively for 20 years, and 
>>> those worked great for city/commuting/neighborhood/pub rides. I've heard 
>>> that the Roadini does NOT offer that kind of 
>>> ride/speed/feel/handling/gusto/whatever, from several folks in this group.
>>>
>>> So am I fooling myself into thinking another $2500 Riv build is going to 
>>> scratch the itch? Or should I buy a <$500 Japanese Road Bike that can hold 
>>> 33s and actually feel some performance?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 48mm tire choice?

[Michael Hammer]

I have the WTB Horizon in 47c on my Black Mountain Road+ and like them for 
90%+ pavement.  They also have the Byway if you want slightly knobby.  Half 
the price (maybe not now) of Rene Herse, YMMV.   Difficult to mount and 
unmount, however.  I'm running with tubes.  

On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 4:18:17 PM UTC-8 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Tom. I have a set of  RH Hatcher Pass 700/48 that I'd be willing to 
> sell for $100 plus shipping if you're interested. They were on my Platy for 
> a short bit. They have some Stan's residue on them but otherwise almost 
> new. I loved them but don't have a use for them at this time and no future 
> plans. Let me know if you have any interest. 
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 3:54:30 PM UTC-7 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have multiple bikes with RH tires I commute on and have had few flats 
>> and no durability issues. I have one pair that are old enough they say 
>> "Compass" on the side and still have life left (I think they changed 
>> Compass->RH in 2019?). Just my experience, but they ride great and last 
>> years.
>>
>> Mike 
>> Austin TX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:49:16 PM UTC-6 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, can anyone recommend tires for 90% pavement that are 700x48 for my 
>>> Platy?  I've gone the cheap route with the Specialized Sawtooth but now I'm 
>>> ready for something better.  They have to be tough enough to commute on the 
>>> street every day.
>>>
>>> The only tire I can seem to find is the Shikoro. I remember reading some 
>>> mixed reviews but I couldn't find anything recent here.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom 
>>> Reston, VA
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Michael Hammer]

Skinny tires on those tandems!  Times have changed.  Seems like a lot of 
bike for those tires.  

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:43:34 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be 
> *brothers. 
> *What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo 
> of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed 
> in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! 
>
> L
>
> On Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
> Jock Dewey
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>> tiny family members.
>>
>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>
>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: Pedal Question

[Michael Hammer]

As Piaw said.  Agree 100% even for adults.


On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 11:48:27 AM UTC-8 Michael Hammer wrote:

> We use the Shimano T series SPD pedals and like them a lot, along with the 
> Shimano shoes from this series.  Easy in and out, and float.  Shimano calls 
> these "Click'r" and I think they are supposed to be a starter/city pedal.  
> Works fine for my wife and I.  I don't think either of us has tipped over 
> due to not being able to unclip.  I think we have the T400 models from 
> several years ago; it seems the current version is T421 which is double 
> sided which may be handy.  
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:16:38 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Not many people know this, but Shimano makes pairs of beginner SPD pedals 
>> called Click'R (
>> https://blog.piaw.net/2017/05/review-shimano-pd-t400-clickr-pedal.html). 
>> My kids use them both on tandem and mountain bike and love it. Kids don't 
>> lie about these things --- with the pedals they can climb hills and steep 
>> segments they can't do with flat pedals, and they wouldn't put up with 
>> special shoes and pedals if they didn't add positive value. The click'r add 
>> weight but they never fail to release, and none of my kids have ever 
>> crashed because they couldn't put a foot down.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:17:48 AM UTC-8 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>
>>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>>
>>> road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano 
>>> mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with 
>>> one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with 
>>> cleats.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.
>>>
>>> dick
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Pedal Question

[Michael Hammer]

We use the Shimano T series SPD pedals and like them a lot, along with the 
Shimano shoes from this series.  Easy in and out, and float.  Shimano calls 
these "Click'r" and I think they are supposed to be a starter/city pedal.  
Works fine for my wife and I.  I don't think either of us has tipped over 
due to not being able to unclip.  I think we have the T400 models from 
several years ago; it seems the current version is T421 which is double 
sided which may be handy.  

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:16:38 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not many people know this, but Shimano makes pairs of beginner SPD pedals 
> called Click'R (
> https://blog.piaw.net/2017/05/review-shimano-pd-t400-clickr-pedal.html). 
> My kids use them both on tandem and mountain bike and love it. Kids don't 
> lie about these things --- with the pedals they can climb hills and steep 
> segments they can't do with flat pedals, and they wouldn't put up with 
> special shoes and pedals if they didn't add positive value. The click'r add 
> weight but they never fail to release, and none of my kids have ever 
> crashed because they couldn't put a foot down.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:17:48 AM UTC-8 Dick Pahle wrote:
>
>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with toe 
>> clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have thoughts 
>> about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and out of. i 
>> get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>
>> road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano 
>> mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with 
>> one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with 
>> cleats.
>>
>> thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.
>>
>> dick
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: cassette advice?

[Michael Hammer]

I have had two bikes with a bailout gear setup.  A freewheel with a 24 to 
32 jump with a 7 speed LX mountain derailer and friction shifting and a 7 
speed homebrew cassette also with a 24-32 jump with a 7 speed Ultegra road 
derailer (6400 series) that shifts fine in index mode.  

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 7:37:27 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> I use the MegaRange freewheel (NOT a cassette) with an Altus RD and 7 
> speed index twist shifter. Works fine, but I really don't shift to the 34 
> that much. If you are trying to make a MegaRange out of a cassette, there 
> are considerations, like most cassettes have multiple inner gears on a 
> spider that cannot be separated without machining. You could remove a 
> middle sprocket and add a large inner sprocket, but it is best if it is 
> intended for the big jump. If you look at the MegaRange 34T sprocket, it 
> has ramps down to a smaller diameter that a normal 34T sprocket. The 
> individual large inner sprockets used to be more available, but are now 
> harder to find due to the wide range cassettes being more available. The 
> Crust and Analog websites used to have articles on making your own cassette 
> combinations. Analog talked about Turkey Vulture gearing and Crust's "THE 
> STUBBY CASSETTE" related to the Scapegoat and using 11 speed cassettes to 
> make narrow 7 speed cassettes (spacers used to fill the space closest to 
> the spokes) that would clear fat tires on the non-offset 135 spacing frame 
> without going crazy wide on crank Q-factor.
>
> But I agree that when mixing and matching, friction makes things easier. 
> Still going to try the Nexave rapid rise RD-600 with indexing on the 
> MegaRange, before I go friction.
>
> [image: megarange2.JPG]
>
>
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 9:57:01 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello Adam,
>>
>> My experience with the Megarange freewheels has been that they are 
>> difficult to setup with index shifters, friction is OK. 
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 1:23:42 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:
>>
>>> Also, does the "megarange" setup shift well? I can imagine that being 
>>> perfect for my situation. I could swap the 27 for a 32.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 12:16:47 PM UTC-6 Adam wrote:
>>>
 Thanks all,

 I appreciate the thoughts. I agree with the 48x11 being minimally 
 useful. I have found it only useful for standing and "sprinting" sometimes 
 on long flat rides.

 Going to try building a 12-27 and see where that gets me.
 On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-6 Drew Saunders 
 wrote:

> How much do you use the 48x11? It’s a pretty high gear, but you may 
> prefer a lower cadence than many others. If so, I’ll be the contrarian 
> and 
> suggest an 11-23 9 speed. I currently use a 24-36-46 with an 11-23 9 
> speed 
> on my Riv in hilly Silicon Valley, and spend a lot of time in the middle 
> ring. I’m gathering parts to convert to 2x11 soon as a rainy winter 
> project.
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm thinking about changing up the cassette on my Hillborne this 
>> winter. I'm currently running an 11-32 (9sp) with 48/36/26 in front.
>>
>> I've moved to the midwest, and now the closest thing I see to a hill 
>> is a freeway overpass. I'd like to try a more compact cassette, thinking 
>> something like a 13-28. I somehow have only ridden wide range cassettes, 
>> so 
>> this is new territory to me. Any advice on this swap?
>>
>> I also realize the triple front is superfluous, but don't want to 
>> swap it unnecessarily, the cassette is getting old, cranks seem fine.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Adam - just back from a ride through Chicago snow.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Can I use my RB-1 parts on a new Riv?

[Michael Hammer]

Short answer, yes, mostly.  I just did this from a 92 RB-1 to a 2022 
Roadini (I needed/wanted wider tires, the RB-1 max is 28).  The bars, stem, 
brake levers and bar end shifters came off intact and went on the Roadini.  
Cable stops, wheels, rear derailleur and crank as well.  The Ultegra rear 
shifts a 32 cog just fine.  

The rear wheel needed a 1.5 to 2 mm spacer on each side to go from 126 to 
130 OLD.  I used 3/8 (10mm +/-) washers from the hardware store, one on 
each side between the lock nut and the cone. This centered the wheel in the 
dropouts while maintaining the 7 speed hub and cassette.  The axle is a 
little short, but Sheldon said that's OK.  Gravel King 38 slicks seem good 
on the original Ritchey Road Force rims.  

The crank had a 116mm axle (OEM) rather than the Ultegra 6400 spec'd 113.  
(Ask Grant?)  Worked fine on the Roadini.  The front derailleur on the RB-1 
is 28.6 and the Roadini needs 31.8; found a 31.8 on ebay.  (I really like 
this FD.)  The seatpost and headset came on the Roadini (IIRC the RB-1 
seatpost would not fit, 26.8 I think).  Brakes are Tektro 559 and also work 
fine.  

I have only a few miles on it but all seems good.  The RB-1 looks sad with 
just the FD, seatpost and brakes left.  The RB-1 is a great bike, and jumps 
and climbs with those short chainstays, but it's not where I'm at now.  
Hope this is useful.  

On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 5:42:31 AM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:

> It's a 1991.  I made a poor attempt at Riv-izing it, but the geometry 
> isn't going to cooperate.  Converting to a fixed is interesting, though I 
> think I will keep it together and replace the original drops/brake levers/ 
> and Avocet saddle which I have.  It was more comfortable in original form, 
> though the Roly-Polys are staying on.  The modern hub spacing on the Rivs 
> is there for a reason, I might as well let them build one for me.  
>
> [image: RB-1.JPG]
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 7:48:28 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> You could turn it into a fixed/free bike and keep the bars and saddle you 
>> have for a town bike. I'd keep it. They were nice bikes. What year?
>>
>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 4:43:05 PM UTC-6 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe, that helps with the planning.  The RB-1 has a 126.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 1:54:58 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 The hiccup will be rear spacing for the hub, it's 135 OLD on those 
 Rivs, RBs used 126 or 130 hubs. 

 On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 12:17:11 PM UTC-8 jak...@me.com 
 wrote:

> Hi all, first post, warm greetings.
>
> I have a super nice RB-1 which is too racy for my desires.  I have 
> long been looking at a new Rivendell Hillborne or Appaloosa.  I would 
> love 
> to use my RB-1 parts on it if they will fit.  No worries about over 
> gearing 
> as I am in Florida.
>
> Shimano 600 derailleur, Sugino DGX crank 40/52, Shimano 13/25 
> cassette, and Shimano RX-100 hubs,  Ritchey stem, Wolber 700c 32H wheels. 
>  
> I have an Albatross bar, Dia Compe MTB levers and a Brooks B-17 that will 
> transfer over.  
>
> Will the rest of it fit?
>
> I could turn the RB-1 into a fixed gear rig just for occasional 
> punishment. I'm not inclined to sell it.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Do Roadinis ride tall?

[Michael Hammer]

>
> I ride a 57.5 cm 1992 RB-1 with the drop bars at saddle height.  My saddle 
>> height is 74 cm.  This bike feels tall (for a few minutes) compared to a 
>> Black Mountain 50 cm Road+.  Both of these bikes have the same reach from 
>> saddle to bars and comparable effective top tube.  The RB-1 has 28s and the 
>> Road+ 47s.  I ordered a 54 cm Roadini after discussing with Vince at Riv 
>> where he initially thought a 57 would be right.  We eventually agreed on 54 
>> based mostly on saddle height and effective top tube.  I plan to use 38s on 
>> the Roadini, so we'll see how it feels when it arrives and gets built.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

[Michael Hammer]

I'm the original owner of a Waterford All-Rounder, so a couple of comments:

   - According to my paperwork from the time, there were 3 sizes in the 
   range of interest, 55.5, 58 and 61.  The bike for sale looks more like a 61 
   than a 58, primarily based on the headtube.  
   - My bike is a 55.5, the spec sheet says the TT is 57.5 but it feels 
   longer than my '92 RB-1 in 57.5 that also has a 57.5 top tube. I have a 
   10mm shorter stem on the AR.   The 58 has a 58.5 top tube, the 61 a 60.5 
   TT.  Grant recommended the 55.5 size for me; I'm 5-10+, normal proportions, 
   and, I think, 89 cm PBH.
   - My headtube is about 170mm; the build sheet called for a 15mm 
   extension, which looks about right.  

Let me know if you want any other geometry numbers.  I could post the sheet 
with road, AR and mountain geometries if folks are interested.  

On Monday, September 1, 2014 8:10:22 AM UTC-7, L. J. Charlton wrote:

 I was perusing the bikes for sale at Mt. Airy bikes (DC area) and 
 unexpectedly came across this:  
 http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3804

 I've been longing for a Riv but haven't seen one that said, Buy me. 
  This does.  But I have two questions before I give them a call:

 1.  Solely from talking to other bike shops it seems the proprietor has a 
 reputation over-pricing his used bikes.  With the understanding that 
 various regions and markets value bikes differently, what would be a 
 reasonable price for a 1995 All Rounder on the east coast?

 2.  I can't for the life of me find a sizing chart for the All Rounder.  I 
 have a 59 PBH.  Reading this http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=41, 
 which is very general, indicates that I could fit a 59cm but it would be on 
 the small side.  Any help with sizing would be appreciated.

 Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

 Larry  


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 80mm or 90mm Stem

[Michael Hammer]

I might have a Ritchey Road by Nitto, TIG welded, in 80 or 90.  I'll have 
to look for it.  Let me know if this might interest you.  

On Saturday, August 30, 2014 6:52:16 PM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote:

 Anyone have a good condition Nitto stem with an 80 or 90mm extension?  I 
 don't need alot of height do it doesn't matter if it's a tall stem or a 
 normal height one.  Thanks!


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