Re: [RBW] Re: Is an Atlantis Worth It?

[Neale S.]

Max - if you've been yearning for an Atlantis, you probably won't *regret* 
getting one. I think it will feel like an upgrade over an 80s mtb 
conversion, mostly in the advantage of a longer head tube and sloping top 
tube making it easier to get the bars to a comfortable position.  I do 
think a lot of the other bikes in Riv's lineup are also worth a look as 
others have mentioned. I own the current-gen Atlantis and it's very 
capable, but it's also almost identical to the Appaloosa, and both are on 
the more stout/cargo-capable side of the lineup. They also might not have 
any new frames in stock any time soon. A clem could be a very cool 
all-rounder, the platypus has some kind of magical, irrational appeal that 
exceeds the sum of its parts, the sam and homer are also worth a look. 
Happy to answer any questions about my Atlantis if you have them.
On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 11:56:38 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have always wanted to own an Atlantis or an All Rounder. Since like, the 
> early to mid 2000s. To me, they were the quintessential Rivendell bikes to 
> own. I loved the timeless, classic look and have always loved touring bikes 
> built for whatever. However, the current version of the Atlantis does not 
> hold the same appeal to me as those classic Rivs did. That’s why I searched 
> for an older model that I’m very happy to have found.
>
> Brian
> Lexington KY

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Re: [RBW] The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18

[Neale S.]

Ted - it was the Rincon Red Box road the entire way. Puts you out on 39 a 
little above the reservoir. My first time doing anything in that area. It 
was tough but none of the grade or surfaces were unreasonable - just long 
and a lot of climbing. 

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 5:44:39 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On May 19, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Neale S.  wrote:
>
>
> I had a blast! Did the triple scoop and it was a beast, took me all day. 
> The aid station at the top of the single scoop was a mountaintop party. I 
> saw Armand and a few other Riv riders. Lots of other cool bikes, and plenty 
> of good vibes. 
>
>
> Wow, I had no idea there were trails connecting Mt Wilson and Glendora. 
> That looks like an amazing (ly difficult) ride!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Neale S.]

See you this weekend Armand! Will be on my Atlantis and at least attempting 
the triple scoop.

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 9:41:18 AM UTC-7 glennma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Having just gotten my first Rivendell--a Platypus no less--this is very 
> inspiring. You've put together a truly beautiful bike. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 9:24:30 AM UTC-4 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> beautiful build. I love the video of you riding it on the trails. 
>>
>> I really need to find the time to build mine up... 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:31:39 AM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>>> Ahhh! Beautiful build! I appreciate the details and photos you've shared 
>>> of your informed and thoughtful build. What a Platypus!
>>>
>>> Wishing you thousands of safe and happy miles,
>>>
>>> Tom 
>>> (leaving Miami)
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Wow...that's some build...love that chainring attachment for your 
 basket. Really creative! Did you do that yourself or is that something you 
 bought?  Anyway, nice bike and that color kind of grows on you

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 4:48:28 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:

> I thoroughly enjoyed this write-up. I can tell you've put in a lot of 
> thought to this bike, and it's beautiful.
> Your approach to this build as a performance upright bicycle and your 
> subsequent revelations as to the comfort mirror my own on my new, purple 
> Appaloosa. I have the same bars too, but slightly wider tyres! All I need 
> is some bar tape and to mount my shifters upside down like yours for 
> those 
> secondary hand positions to really be dialled.
> Hope you have many more adventures to come.
>
> PS: I was told the Quills couldn't handle 48s (I have them on my 
> singlespeed). Are you running yours tubeless?
>
>
> On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:26:44 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
>> 
>>  
>> *
>>
>> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
>> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
>> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap with 
>> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with 
>> Brooks 
>> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>>
>> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>>
>> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, 
>> and Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto 
>> cable hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped off 
>> with Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey 
>> e-bike pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate 
>> canti-lever brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not 
>> passed by test. Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>>
>> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to Velocity 
>> Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h rear, all 
>> polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge. I will 
>> likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire choice, 
>> setup 
>> tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding fast, 
>> especially on dirt. 
>>
>> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight 
>> road triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
>> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
>> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge Bottom 
>> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set 
>> screws 
>> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD 
>> pedals 
>> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
>> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
>> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
>> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
>> *wonderfully.*
>>
>> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
>> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite rear 
>> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 
>> go-pro mount (blue lug style) and M6 brass set screws to fill the unused 
>> braze-ons. Blue Lug yellow X-Strap bungee cords front and rear, with the 
>> x2 
>> rainbow Rivendell straps laced through the basket to handle any odd 
>> things 
>> to carry on the fly. Beautiful Nitto R bottle cage on top, with 

[RBW] Re: The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18

[Neale S.]

I did the double scoop last year on my Atlantis! Would love to see all of 
you there again next weekend. The vibe is usually impeccable. Also there's 
a special Thursday-night basket ride with the Blue Lug folks, which should 
be a good time. 

On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:09:24 AM UTC-7 Brian Cunningham wrote:

> Armand is not getting me to sign up for the triple scoop. Even the single 
> scoop option sounds brutal enough to me, with 4100 ft elevation gain over 
> 27 miles, but Tony, I'll suffer through it with you if you want to try the 
> single scoop!
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 8:07:01 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 7:28:41 PM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> This will be a fun weekend put on by the Cub House bicycle/plant shop in 
>> Pasadena, CA. 
>>
>>
>> I really wish I was going to be there. Take and post photos!
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA 
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB: dynamo hub or 26" dynamo wheel

[Neale S.]

Working on a project, and hoping to find a not-too-precious dynamo hub: rim 
brake, 32 or 36 hole. Or potentially, a 26" wheel with dynamo hub if you 
have one lying around. 

- Neale

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why baskets and front bags instead of rear panniers or perfect Rivendell saddlebags?

[Neale S.]

One reason to put some weight on the front of the bike is that all of your 
(body) weight is mostly on the rear already.
On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-8 Stephen wrote:

> I have basically the same reasoning as Ian, and also live in a city and 
> dont want to leave bags on my bike when I lock up, plus i like my daily bag 
> to not look too bikey (I use the shopsacks). Convenient and easy, easier to 
> pile up with whatever shit i want, take a jacket or sweater off if i get 
> hot, sling my lock into it. Does it affect handling? yep, but i dont really 
> mind that much for riding around town. If my situation was different maybe 
> id do things differently, but I tend to like having a at least a small 
> basket available for an around town bike. I like the way it looks too.
>
> -stephen
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:47:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> IMO, baggage ought to complement the handling characteristics of the 
>> bicycle. My benchmark idea of handling has been formed by 30 years of 
>> riding Rivendells which, IME, do best with rear loads, or at least loads 
>> biased toward the rear and not the front.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 5:18 PM ian m  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure how it makes more sense to put a bag into another bag than 
>>> into a baske
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Neale S.]

17th is open for me!

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 9:47:48 PM UTC-8 Brian Cunningham wrote:

> It’s looking like Feb 17th is the winner so far. I work some Saturdays but 
> am confident I should be able to schedule myself off that day. So far we’re 
> mostly hearing from the Glendale/Pasadena/NELA contingency so we may 
> consider a starting point in one of those neighborhoods. We can work out 
> what sort of distance we want to take on.
>
> Unless we get some folks strongly pushing other dates, let’s lock it in. 
> I’m a City of LA worker and 2/19 is Presidents Day holiday for us but the 
> 12th is a regular old work day.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
> Glendale, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:04 PM, Armand Kizirian  wrote:
>
>  Would love to join! I vote for Saturday the 17th, weekend + no 
> interference with potential valentines day events. Monday the 12th can do, 
> but it's a Monday! (even if it is a holiday) 
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 9:14:36 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Yes!
>> I was just thinking it was time for another LA ride.
>>
>> I’d be available:
>> Monday the 12th
>> &
>> Saturday the 17th
>>
>> Thanks for suggesting it,
>> k.
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:53 AM, isaac ramos  wrote:
>>
>> Sound great! Any of these dates work  for me
>>
>>
>> IR
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>> Anybody free for an early February meet up and ride? Ted D. is in town 
>> during the week of the 12th, so this seems like a great opportunity for a 
>> fun, super causal ride.
>>
>> Sunday the 11th 
>> Monday the 12th (state holiday)
>> Saturday the 17th
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm interested. If the date happens to fall in the second half of the 
>>> month, I'll do my best to be there! First one was a great time. Thanks 
>>> again to Houston and everyone who came out. 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 9:42 AM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>>>
 Definitely! 
 I was just thinking we should do this again this summer.
 I've met some new, not-on-the-google-group L.A. Riv riders to add to 
 the mix this next time too.
 k.

 On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:41 AM Bryce Dwyer  wrote:

> I am! Saturday mornings are best for me but can swing a Friday now and 
> then. There’s also July 3rd, a Monday that se folks may have off. 
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 10:13 PM Tony Lockhart  
> wrote:
>
>> Anybody available for a group ride in July? 
>>
>> @Houston - Thanks for sharing the folder with photos.
>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:08:28 PM UTC-7 tellyoutoday wrote:
>>
>>> This was a great time, thanks for putting it together, Houston. 
>>> Really nice meeting everyone!
>>>
>>> Neale
>>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 So sorry to have missed this!

 Looks like it was a hoot.

 Let plan another ride soon.

 k.

 On May 28, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Adrian  
 wrote:

 Super fun!

 A good pile of Rivs. A number of other cool bikes. Even two e-bikes.
 Great conversation, everyone was super positive. Total type 1 fun.

 See you all at the next one!

 Ben

 On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> Great photos! I’ll definitely be at the next one. 
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It was really nice meeting everyone today. Thanks for putting 
>> this together, Houston! -Matt
>>
>> [image: 52930629896_37f8dac6c8_k.jpg]
>> [image: 52931014820_aa47186b7d_k.jpg]
>> [image: 52931069163_9fa788d6e4_k.jpg]
>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 8:27:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here, see you all in a bit. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Bryce Dwyer  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all — on my way but will likely arrive right at 9:00
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith 
 for our LA Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or 
 not. 
 Originally, the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back 
 an hour to 
 start in some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we 
 can always 
 go back to the og time, just LMK.

 *As a reminder, here are the details:*

[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

[Neale S.]

 from Glassell Park, hope to see you out there. Sounds like we need 
another L.A. Riv Ride soon.

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 3:31:44 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> [image: IMG_2762.jpeg]Bike handles like a dream. Kinda of feel like I’ve 
> been riding it my entire life. It’s comfy, predictable, climbs efficiently, 
> and sprightly. Couldn’t be happier. 
>
>
> On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 10:06:37 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> Tony, that is a nice pairing of Rivs. Like yours my 2013 Sam Hillborne 
>> has been a flawless rider since day one. I suspect your Roadini will be a 
>> touch lighter and give you as much pleasure as your orange Sam. Happy 
>> trails!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 12:43:00 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_2735.jpeg][image: IMG_2734.jpeg]Alright—now the fun starts! 
>>> The Leo arrived last night, so it got a healthy dose of Frame Saver. I’m 
>>> going to build most of it this morning. Still waiting for a Silver triple 
>>> crank and some chain wax to arrive. Should be ready to roll tomorrow. 
>>>
>>> Including color comparison images to show dark gold versus the orange on 
>>> my Sam. Took forever to choose between the Sergio green and dark gold but I 
>>> couldn’t be happier with my choice. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:04:17 AM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>>
 Last post for the intro...promise! 


 SAM BUILD
 After purchasing parts last week, I set this bike up as a 2x8 flat bar 
 build with Swift Industries bags and a Wald basket. This is will be for 
 biking with family, getting in fitness rides, doing grocery shopping, 
 coffee outside vibes, and running errands around town. Heckmaybe even 
 some fenders and a kickstand.

 LEO BUILD
 This will be a 3x8 drop bar build set up for 40-60ish mile road rides 
 on the weekend. It'll use an old set of OpenPro/Ultegra with some 
 Panaracers Pasellas. In terms of luggage, it'll get a Swift Industries 
 Kestral mounted to a Velo Orange decalleur and a tool roll under the 
 saddle. Might be cool as a Rando bike but free time in the saddle is 
 limited at this point in my life.


 Please stay tuned if you have any interest in seeing a comfy road build 
 take shape. I'll definitely share insights during and after the build, 
 especially as I get acclimated to the new bike. Cheers and Happy New Year!

 Tony






 On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 11:03:35 AM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> At any rate, the numbers between both frames look pretty similar. 
> Seems like the chainstay on the Leo is 1.7cm shorter than the Sam and the 
> HT/ST angles have a 0.5 degree variation. My guess is that both will feel 
> pretty neutral in handling and I fully expect any Riv to ride amazingly, 
> so 
> I'm not that worried about it. Given the difference in tire size, and 
> lack 
> of luggage on the Roadini, I expect it to feel zippier than my trusty Sam.
> [image: IMG_2718.jpeg]
> *Parts Bin*
> So, I've been building an admirable collection of parts over the years 
> and I finally accumulated enough to build a second bike. Here's a 
> screenshot of the spreadsheet I made to help determine which parts to 
> buy, 
> indicated in yellow highlighting.
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-12-26 at 10.26.45 AM.png]
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Roadini 57cm

[Neale S.]

Anyone sitting on a complete or a frameset?

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[RBW] FS: Musa Shorts - ranger green/navy, medium

[Neale S.]

MUSA shorts, purchased earlier this year. These are the ranger green/navy 
colorblocked variety. 

Very good used condition. One very minor scuff on the front, and the gusset 
has the faint beginnings of some pilling. Freshly cleaned but note that 
these pants *existed* in the same household as cats and a dog. 

Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/K2T9sIJ 

$70 shipped. 

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