[RBW] WTB or trade 57 Gus

[Ron Frazelle]

Hi, 

Looking to buy a 57 (PBH 87) Gus frameset. Or if you wanted to trade for a 
new (45 miles) Aventon Level Commuter Ebike, that would be awesome!  

Let me know. 

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Re: [RBW] Groups.Google

[Ron Frazelle]

I am using my computer only. And it comes through my gmail.

Ron

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:17 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Here we go again! I don't like da Groups format either, Rick. Love the
> bikes, love the Bunch. Would love to have a phpBB board.
>
> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 1:08:32 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> DOS? Ha! I remember working on a Kaypro running CP/M back in the day. DOS
>> would have been a step up!
>>
>> --Eric Norris
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>> On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:05 AM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rick(?) and Ron,  How are you guys trying to use the group: phone vs
>> computer, in email or browser?
>>
>> The last few days it has been kinda glitchy when I'm logged in thru the
>> Firefox browser on my laptop. I really miss the old format, but I've never
>> liked adapting to software upgrades, and I still miss DOS. I guess it's
>> appropriate my bikes head badge is a wooly mammoth.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:57:42 AM UTC-8 rickur...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love my Rivendell, and I love Rivendell owners!
>>> But, I despise this Google group format!
>>> I wish there was another way. I'm sure there is, I just don't know what
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Re: [RBW] Groups.Google

[Ron Frazelle]

I am such a newb on this Group...any help would be appreciated.


Ron

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 7:02 AM Eric Daume  wrote:

> Have you tried getting the messages in your email? Works great for me.
>
> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022, Rick Urbanowski 
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>
>> I love my Rivendell, and I love Rivendell owners!
>> But, I despise this Google group format!
>> I wish there was another way. I'm sure there is, I just don't know what
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Ron Frazelle]

Nailed it Paul!!

Ron

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:13 AM Paul Clifton  wrote:

> This response may sound a little harsh, but I don't mean to be harsh. It's
> a frustrating situation for all these days and a bummer when it's hard to
> buy things we want.
> ---
> Along with what others are saying, it probably also has to do with what
> they can get right now. They order MUSA clothing from a small shop in New
> Hampshire (I think). That shop has multiple customers, and some production
> capacity to balance, and who knows what the raw materials and labor
> situation there is. QBP can't even keep hubs in stock. How is Riv going to
> get any priority from suppliers when their order quantities are fractions
> of most companies?
>
> Combine that with increased demand - for lots of good reasons in Rivs case
> - their products and brand are becoming more and more well known and
> desirable - and you end up with out of stock stuff. It's a bummer, but I
> don't think Riv can do too much about it - otherwise they'd be selling more
> bikes and employing more people.
>
> And when Riv does stock up on stuff (like they did for the retail store),
> it ends up sitting on the shelves and putting them in a tough spot. It's a
> damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, so IMO choosing "don't"
> has a lot of supporting arguments.
>
> Will's restock emails are an interesting peak into how often they get
> orders from different suppliers, and stuff just doesn't seem to be rolling
> in frequently or in large quantities.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 8:04:32 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others.
>> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But,
>> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more
>> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without
>> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I
>> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in
>> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and
>> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list
>> goes on.
>>
>> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
>> Doug
>> Athens, Ga
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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving the Clem Jr!!

[Ron Frazelle]

I use a Wahoo Elemnt ROAM. It uploads automatically to Strava. And I use a
K-Edge time trial computer mount. It goes on the bars that are out front on
a TT bike, so it has the 22.2 clamping size that fits the bars on my Clem.
Works great.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 11:59 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> I agree that Clem L's ride so nice! How do you track miles? I'm looking to
> buy a GPS unit so I can use it on any bike I ride so I'll get cumulative
> miles not just per bike.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 1:41:22 PM UTC-5 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just thought I'd pop in and let you know that my Clem Smith Jr L is
>> probably one of the best riding bikes I have ever owned. I have a smidge
>> over 300 miles since I picked it up in mid-November[image:
>> PXL_20211231_184803732.jpg]! That's it.
>>
>> It's pretty wonderful.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving the Clem Jr!!

[Ron Frazelle]

I use a Wahoo Elemnt ROAM. It uploads automatically to Strava. And I use a
K-Edge time trial computer mount. It goes on the bars that are out front on
a TT bike, so it has the 22.2 clamping size that fits the bars on my Clem.
Works great.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 12:59 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Make sure to spy the Quad Locks for motorcycles, too. We have lots of room
> on our big swoopy Riv bars so you can use the bar mount instead of bike
> stem mounts they sell.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 12:50:36 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Johnny, that may be the easiest and least costly solution. I wasn't sure
>> how much battery drain but I'll give it a try. Now I just need to order a
>> quadlock.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 3:42:35 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> @Doug I am not the OP but I just use apps on my phone. Strava or
>>> RideGPS. My phone plus a quadlock mount is the best GPS system out there.
>>> Depending on the app you can assign rides to certain bikes but still see
>>> cumulative miles. I have quadlock mounts on all of my bikes.
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:59:06 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I agree that Clem L's ride so nice! How do you track miles? I'm looking
 to buy a GPS unit so I can use it on any bike I ride so I'll get cumulative
 miles not just per bike.
 Doug

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> Hi all,
>
> Just thought I'd pop in and let you know that my Clem Smith Jr L is
> probably one of the best riding bikes I have ever owned. I have a smidge
> over 300 miles since I picked it up in mid-November[image:
> PXL_20211231_184803732.jpg]! That's it.
>
> It's pretty wonderful.
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[RBW] Stuff For Sale

[Ron Frazelle]

***Updated*** 

Buyer pays shipping. Only shipping to CONUS 

Thanks for looking! :)

Alex DM24 36 hole, silver, 700c/29er wheelset with Novatech hubs and 
skewers - $200 (pair) *Already boxed up and ready to ship! *
650b x 48 WTB Byways (like new) $60 (pair)
650b x 50 Panaracer Gravel King SK $60 (pair)
29 x 2.6 WTB Ranger folding tires $45 (pair) 
Shimano Acera trigger rear shifter - $40
Shimano UN300 (113x68) bottom bracket - $10

From my own parts bin...
Used Brooks C-17 Special "natural" color - $80

Ron (SoCal)

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[RBW] **BUMP** WTB Medium ShopSack

[Ron Frazelle]

Hey all,

I know this is a reachbut, still looking for a Medium ShopSack in 
Olive, Tan or (preferably Khaki #9). 

Many thanks!

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[RBW] **BUMP** WTB Medium ShopSack Medium

[Ron Frazelle]

Hey all,

Still looking for a Medium ShopSack in Olive, Tan or (preferably Khaki #9). 

Thanks!

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[RBW] WTB Medium ShopSack Medium

[Ron Frazelle]

Hey all,

Looking for a Medium ShopSack in Olive, Tan or (preferably Khaki #9). 

Thanks!

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[RBW] New Items Added to Parts For Sale

[Ron Frazelle]

***Updated*** 

Buyer pays shipping. Only shipping to CONUS 

Thanks for looking! :)

Tektro Quartz V-Brake - $40 (for both pairs)
Alex DM24 36 hole, silver, 700c/29er wheelset with Novatech hubs and 
skewers - $200 (pair)
Kenda K-1129 Kwick Journey 45mm tires - $40 (pair)
650b x 48 WTB Byways (like new) $60 (pair)
650b x 50 Panaracer Gravel King SK $60 (pair)
29 x 2.6 WTB Ranger folding tires $45 (pair) 
Deore front derailleur - $25
Sunrace rear 11-34 cassette - $20
Sunrace thumbie - $40
Shimano Acera trigger rear shifter - $40
Shimano UN300 (113x68) bottom bracket - $10

From my own parts bin...
Used Brooks C-17 Special "natural" color - $80

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[RBW] WTB Nitto M1 rack

[Ron Frazelle]

Hi all, 

Looking for a used (but in good shape) Nitto M1 rack for my new Clem Jr. L. 

Coollet me know. 

Thanks, 

Ron

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[RBW] ***Price drop*** Clem Jr parts

[Ron Frazelle]

***Updated price drop*** 

Buyer pays shipping. Only shipping to CONUS 

Thanks for looking! :)

Rivendell Silver 34/24t Crank (173mm) w/ chainguard - $150
Tektro Quartz V-Brake - $40 (for both pairs)
Tektro (wide blade) levers - $20 (pair)
Alex DM24 36 hole, silver, MBW, 700c/29er wheelset with Novatech hubs and 
skewers - $200 (pair)
Kenda K-1129 Kwick Journey 45mm tires - $40 (pair)
2.6 WTB Ranger folding tires ($35ea.) 
Deore front derailleur - $25
Sunrace rear 11-34 cassette - $20
Sunrace thumbie - $40
Nitto Talux stem (110mm) - $50
Shimano Acera trigger rear shifter - $40
Shimano UN300 (113x68) bottom bracket - $10

*From my own parts bin...*

Used Brooks C-17 Special "natural" color - $90

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[RBW] **UPDATE** New Clem Parts for sale

[Ron Frazelle]

***Updated what has sold and added sizes that were left out*** 

So, I drove up to Riv on Monday and picked up my new Clem, I am now an 
official owner and not just an admirer! 

Anywho, I bought the complete build but had already bought a bunch of my 
own parts to build a frame and fork. So, I am selling a lot of the 
brand-new parts that I have removed. 

Buyer pays shipping. Only shipping to CONUS :)

Rivendell Silver 34/24t Crank (173mm) w/ chainguard - $190
Tektro Quartz V-Brake - $40 (for both wheels)
Tektro (wide blade) levers - $20 (pair)
Alex DM24 36 hole 700c/29er wheelset with Novatech hubs and skewers - $220 
(pair)
Kenda K-1129 Kwick Journey 45mm tires - $40 (pair)
Deore front derailleur - $30
Sunrace rear 11-34 cassette - $30
Sunrace thumbie - $40
Nitto Talux stem (110mm) - $50
Shimano Acera trigger rear shifter - $40
Tosco handlebars - $50 **SOLD**
Shimano UN300 (113x68) bottom bracket - $20

*From my own parts bin...*

Used Brooks C-17 Special - $90

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Clem Smith Jr Parts for sale

[Ron Frazelle]

Hey guys,

The stem is 110mm and I think is spoken for...but haven't received his zip
for shipping. I will let you know if I don't hear anything by tomorrow.

The cranks are 173mm...seems small for a 59cm, but alas... that's what was
spec'd.

Ron

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On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 8:17 PM Drw  wrote:

> opposite of Kai, if the cranks are <175mm, id take them.
>
> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 7:55:42 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations on the new Bike!
>> What length are the Silver cranks you're selling? 178mm I hope...
>> And while I'm not shopping for a stem, what's the size on that for all
>> that may be in the market?
>> Thanks
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 10:24:02 AM UTC-5 fraze...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> So, I drove up to Riv on Monday and picked up my new Clem, I am now an
>>> official owner and not just an admirer!
>>>
>>> Anywho, I bought the complete build but had already bought a bunch of my
>>> own parts to build a frame and fork. So, I am selling a lot of the
>>> brand-new parts that I have removed.
>>>
>>> Buyer pays shipping. Only shipping to CONUS :)
>>>
>>> Rivendell Silver 34/24t Crank w/ chainguard - $190
>>> Tektro Quartz V-Brake - $40 (for both wheels)
>>> Tektro (wide blade) levers - $20 (pair)
>>> Alex DM24 700c/29er wheelset with Novatech hubs and skewers - $220 (pair)
>>> Kenda K-1129 Kwick Journey 45mm tires - $40 (pair)
>>> Deore front derailleur - $30
>>> Sunrace rear 11-34 cassette - $30
>>> Sunrace thumbie - $40
>>> Nitto Talux stem - $50
>>> Shimano Acera trigger rear shifter - $40
>>> Tosco handlebars - $50
>>> Shimano UN300 (113x68) bottom bracket - $20
>>>
>>> *From my own parts bin...*
>>>
>>> Used Brooks C-17 Special - $90
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> [image: PXL_2027_200606128.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Clems: Rivendell, modernized?

[Ron Frazelle]

I hope I'm not stepping on any toes. Bit Grant's "maxed out" Clem L is
running 2.5's. and had to modify the rear cassette so the chain didn't run
the rear tire in the granny.

On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 5:24 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> Patrick,
> I would say a 2.8 inch tire would fit. Maybe 3 inch but it would be
> tight...this is on my 52.
>
> On Tuesday, November 16, 2021 at 8:12:00 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well I hope you’re not asking ME.  I think it’s well-known around here
>> that I just ride the bikes. Let me reply with a nonsensical answer then!
>>
>> I can tell you that my sister with her Swedish/German Anglo build is 5’8”
>> and can ride the 59 Clem L that belongs to her husband  who is 6’2” with a
>> Nigerian build. But, he bought her the 52 Clem L for their anniversary, so
>> that she would stop riding his 59 Clem L.
>>
>> There. Solved.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2021, at 5:03 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Perhaps more helpful: my perfect level tt road bike frame size is 60 X 56
>> c-c. My built road bikes have 57 and 58 cm c-c tts with Riv-type slightly
>> upsloping tts. Please help me translate this into Clems.
>>
>> And again, how fat a tire will a 700C 59 cm Clem take?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 5:39 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> ..Aside: "59cm - 86 to 96cm; 700c rim size, but with room for "29er"
>>> tires." I've never measured my pbh because I've known forever what st size
>>> and tt size make a bike fit me. But I'm 5'10" tall with Asian build (I wear
>>> 34 w 32 length jeans instead of v-versa; if I had an Anglo build I'd be
>>> 6'1" ), so would I fit a 59?
>>>
>>
>>> And, if so, how fat a 700C tire will a 59 cm Clem take?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Ron Frazelle]

That's good to hear...looking forward to riding mine when I get it!

Love the bag choices!

Thanks for sharing!

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 4:34 PM scott minor  wrote:

> My new to me 64 Clem L.  Just getting acquainted, wow what an enjoyable
> ride.  It floats and rolls really well regardless of what I'm carrying.
>
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 9:51:46 PM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sweet build, thanks for sharing!! :)
>>
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> "Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world." -
>> Grant Petersen
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:07 PM J Imler  wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 7DED9F5A-51DB-4ED5-B70D-215B7DB65599.jpeg]
>>> 59 Clem L in naked sunbather land
>>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 8:41:19 AM UTC-7 fraze...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's awesome!

 Thanks!

 Ron

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 On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:12 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Congrats! I bought one of the web special Clem L bikes that was built
> up 1x10 with a Shimano indexed shifter. It has Tosco bars, Cliffhanger
> wheels, Teravail Ehline tires, and a Clipper crankset. I'll attach a photo
> from the website as it hasn't been shipped yet (hopefully today!). I'll 
> use
> a Brooks C17 saddle.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond
>> stoked to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an 
>> Atlantis
>> frame and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) 
>> in
>> the *Staff Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be
>> calling to me. And then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much
>> better BTW), there is the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of 
>> Grant's
>> Clem battling a pretty gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision
>> making process...which isn't hard to do, BTW.
>>
>>  After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone
>> calls with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the
>> trigger on buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
>>
>> Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of
>> my own parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike
>> and I will be replacing some of the parts on the complete.
>>
>> If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow
>> Clem Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds.
>>
>> That would be awesome.
>>
>> Thanks! :)
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Ron Frazelle]

That's awesome!

Thanks!

Ron

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On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:12 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Congrats! I bought one of the web special Clem L bikes that was built up
> 1x10 with a Shimano indexed shifter. It has Tosco bars, Cliffhanger wheels,
> Teravail Ehline tires, and a Clipper crankset. I'll attach a photo from the
> website as it hasn't been shipped yet (hopefully today!). I'll use a Brooks
> C17 saddle.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond
>> stoked to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an Atlantis
>> frame and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) in
>> the *Staff Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be calling
>> to me. And then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much better BTW),
>> there is the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of Grant's Clem battling
>> a pretty gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision making
>> process...which isn't hard to do, BTW.
>>
>>  After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone
>> calls with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the
>> trigger on buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
>>
>> Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of my
>> own parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike and
>> I will be replacing some of the parts on the complete.
>>
>> If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow Clem
>> Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds.
>>
>> That would be awesome.
>>
>> Thanks! :)
>>
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[RBW] Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Ron Frazelle]

Hi all, 

I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond stoked 
to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an Atlantis frame 
and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) in the 
*Staff 
Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be calling to me. And 
then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much better BTW), there is 
the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of Grant's Clem battling a pretty 
gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision making process...which 
isn't hard to do, BTW. 

 After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone calls 
with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the trigger on 
buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
 
Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of my own 
parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike and I 
will be replacing some of the parts on the complete. 

If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow Clem 
Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds. 

That would be awesome. 

Thanks! :)
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Ron Frazelle]

I meant bright, not light. 

On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 9:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ron Frazelle wrote:

> Hello, 
>
> I run the B&M Mini on my bike and it is really small and really light. It 
> also has a bunch of mounting optionsand a long stand time (seems to be 
> over 5 minutes). I have mine mounted to my top, right rear rack braze on. 
>
>
> https://www.bumm.de/en/products/dynamo-rucklichter/parent/332/produkt/332alk-silber-332alk-01-schwarz.html
> ?
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Ron
>
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> Grant Petersen
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:12 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>>  I have the SON fender mount, a couple B&M Toplines, and a B&M Secula. 
>> The SON is probably the brightest of the bunch, small but very intense. The 
>> others are helped by their reflectors to make their visible area bigger but 
>> I think it's a toss-up on how visible you are between the bunch.  The 
>> Topline has an optional "brake light" function though which is pretty nice
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 at 08:44:36 UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have the Riv installed: 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/dyno-rack-light
>>> on my Platy and I love it.  Super bright and I never have to think about 
>>> charging. On my previous bike I use the Cygo lights which are crazy bright 
>>> almost blinding but I love that they blink and alert everyone to my bike 
>>> presence.
>>> Kate who is lit in Trenton
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 10:28:27 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>>>
>>>> In terms of dealing with rear light routing, I've used this stuff with 
>>>> good aesthetic results when taping it under the top tube:
>>>> Shimano Di2 SM-Ecwc2 E-Tube Cover Set | Jenson USA 
>>>> <https://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-Di2-SM-ECWC2-E-Tube-Cover-Set>
>>>>
>>>> Then I just twirl on one of the seat stays until it reaches it's 
>>>> destination. It works best when all of the connections are happening at 
>>>> the 
>>>> headlight.
>>>>
>>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 3:50:40 PM UTC-7 rcook...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>> I have an older B&M taillight powered by an older SONdelux (before the 
>>>>> Wide-Body) hub, and it's plenty bright, and a Compass/Rene Herse 
>>>>> taillight 
>>>>> running from a newer Wide-Body. Also decently bright. I can't imagine 
>>>>> SON's 
>>>>> own taillights would be anything but reasonably bright.
>>>>>
>>>>> I too am curious, Mathieu, to know the details of the troubles with 
>>>>> dynamo taillights reported by RBW and your LBS have. I wonder if some of 
>>>>> the troubles have to do with wiring, which, in the absence of 
>>>>> accommodations on or in the frame, must be zip-tied to, handlebar-taped 
>>>>> to, 
>>>>> or wrapped around the frame to reach the taillight. It's a mild aesthetic 
>>>>> irritation, for me at least. Gets the job done, though, and my 
>>>>> zip-tie-enabled system has worked every day and in every weather for nine 
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 10:48:32 AM UTC-6 Sean B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II 
>>>>>> headlight and was wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone 
>>>>>> have experience with the SON Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and 
>>>>>> what 
>>>>>> system are you using it on? I cant find many reviews online, so thought 
>>>>>> I'd 
>>>>>> ask y'all. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks! 
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[RBW] *BUMP* WTB: 55 Atlantis

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Hi all, 

Bumping this again...hope it's alright. 

I am wanting to buy a used 55cm Atlantis frame and fork. 

Let me know! 

Thanks! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Surly Long Haul trucker

[Ron Frazelle]

I absolutely loved my Trucker...like really loved it! I did a lot of miles
on it and selling it was a huge mistake. Anyway...Here is a link to a blog
post I did going over the build...take a read if you'd like...it's good
"bike porn". :)

https://declarationoffreewheel.com/2017/04/18/my-mother-truckin-trucker/

Ron

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On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 7:34 AM Navin Nestle  wrote:

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> Truckers are definitely the unsung hero of the Surly lineup. Here’s mine
> On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 10:08:28 AM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This past August I purchased a 64cm Disc Trucker frameset, the newer
>> version with thru-axles.   I built it up with same handlebars, seatpost,
>> seat, pedals, tires as my 62cm Sam Hillborne (2015 double TT).
>> Surprisingly, the two weigh and ride quite similarly.  Got the DT frameset
>> to have a second bike that would fit fenders with Snoqualmie Pass tires.
>> When I moved up from Barlow Pass to Snoqualmie Pass on the SH, fenders
>> would no longer fit.
>>
>> I was concerned about how the DT would ride with it's oversize tubing,
>> but I find it rides great.  the SH has an oversize down tube of 31.8mm like
>> the DT and 2 top tubes of 28.6mm vs the single top tube of 31.8mm on the
>> DT, but I think the top tube on the DT is thinner gauge, justing by the
>> pitch of ring when tapping on it.  Seat tube on both are 28.6mm.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 4:21:04 PM UTC-7 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>>> That was a color but I believe for the first gen midnight special.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 7:08:25 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I might be trippin' but I think Surly called this color Hot Mayonnaise.

 On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 3:37:47 PM UTC-4 Andrew Huston wrote:

> I managed to get a green which I am very excited for. Your web special
> looks killer with this big tires!
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 1:53:00 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Congrats Andrew on the Clem purchase. Which color did you select?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 11:57:20 AM UTC-4 Andrew Huston
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking for an all around type bike and happened to find a NOS
>>> 54 LHT. While it was being packed and shipped I got in on the Clem Lotto
>>> and was fortunate to snag a complete. I definitely do not need both now 
>>> and
>>> looking to sell. Box is packed and ready to you out. I paid $1500 total 
>>> and
>>> I’d like to not take a bath so asking same-ish considering shipping etc.
>>> discontinued model at this point. Don’t have a photo due to being boxed 
>>> so
>>> please use google to see images. Build is as follows
>>>
>>>
>>>- Shimano 3 x 9 drivetrain bar-end shifters LX hubs and rear
>>>derailleur
>>>- 100% Surly 4130 chromoly steel. Main triangle double butted.
>>>Fork is lugged and brazed
>>>- Tektro CR720 canti brakes and Michelin City 26 x 1.85" tires
>>>- Microshift  bar end shifters
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

[Ron Frazelle]

Chiming in.

As a Clydesdale that "rides light" and chooses to buy quality wheels when I
don't have them built for me, I have never had in issue with 32 spokes,
ever...even loaded with bike packing gear.

In agreement with Eric and Bill.



On Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 12:27 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Adding onto Eric's correct comments.  I'd say the rider technique has a
> lot to do with the reliability of wheels also.  Some riders just seem to
> know how to ride light.  Others simply don't.  There are light weight
> riders who destroy wheels because they don't know how to ride, or they do
> know and just choose to ride in a way that is harder on wheels.  There are
> clydesdales who do just fine with low spoke count wheels because they know
> what they are doing.  I think of it in the same way you observe horse
> riders.  Some people just seem to glide along, and others ride a horse like
> a bag of meal.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 11:15:47 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> In my experience, the quality of the rim and spokes and the skill of the
>> wheelbuilder matter much more than the spoke count. A well-made 32-spoke
>> wheel will outlive a cheap 36-spoke wheel any day.
>>
>> I’ve ended up with several bikes with 36-spoke wheels, but more by chance
>> than design. I ride on some “classic” hubs that were made at a time when 36
>> was the standard.
>>
>> --Eric N
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2021, at 11:05 AM, George Schick  wrote:
>>
>> Lately I've noticed that many suppliers aren't offering any 36 hole rims
>> or hubs, as though they're going by the wayside.  A quick check into the
>> Phil Wood website shows they're only offering 36 hole in a few models.  And
>> another check into a major virtual bike shop with "36 hole" as a sort
>> criteria showed only 19 rims available in that count among the nearly 60
>> available in 32 hole.  BTW, when checking both sites I noticed "sold out"
>> for almost everything - scary, I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I would always go with the 36. One reason is that the spokes at the rim
>>> joint cross, so the spoke tension is working to close the rim joint. This
>>> was the reason to go to 44 instead of 40 or 48 many, many years ago, but I
>>> think that 44 is an obsolete spoke count at this point. Rims are so much
>>> better now that it probably does not matter any more. At 280, I have lots
>>> of bikes with 40 and 48 spoke rims. But I don't break spokes on my 32 hole
>>> rims either.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 6:39:44 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey all!
 Hypothetically...does an Atlas wheel set with 32 spokes for a 6'3" 210
 pound dude make sense if he's on an unloaded Sam and using it as an
 all-road bike? No singletrack/mountain biking, jumping, etc... Tires would
 be AT LEAST 40mm, possibly up to 44mm.

 OR...is it 36h or bust if you're a big fellow?

 Thanks,
 Ben in Omaha

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[RBW] *BUMP* WTB - 55cm Atlantis :)

[Ron Frazelle]

Hi all, 

I am wanting to buy a used 55cm Atlantis frame and fork. 

Let me know! 

Thanks! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Ron Frazelle]

Yeah, when I finally made the decision to actually buy a Rivendell instead
of just lusting after one...I was actually surprised that the frames aren't
spec'd with 27.2 seat tubes...its always been kinda the unofficial size for
steel frames.

It's Grant though, so 🤘

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 8:35 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Hey Fellas,
>
> Thanks for the reply's.
>
> Ron, honestly I know very little about bicycle frame manufacturing in
> terms of the decisions that go into ordering a batch of F&F.'s. I could
> certainly see creating a uniformity of parts and I'm sure Grant has some
> rationalization for going with this diameter seat tube but it effectively
> limited choices, virtually every seat post manufacturer makes a 27.2 mm
> post.
>
> Karl, it does.
>
> Joe,  they do but I prefer a dual bolt post. They are stronger and allow
> for better adjustment.
>
> A friend of mine on the list here uses a suspension post, When Rivendell
> went to this seat post diameter it effectively limited him from buying any
> of the new frames because nobody makes his preferred suspension post in
> that diameter only in 27.2mm.
>
> Perhaps I'll call Grant and ask the man himself why he made that decision.
> Somewhere I read that he wanted to create a thicker tube wall for more
> strength? Maybe there were some failures and he was future proofing? Maybe
> someone with better knowledge will chime in?
>
> Hugh n LA
>
> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 8:00:52 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I don't know the answer but I do know Riv also carries the S65
>> single-bolt in 250mm for $84.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:01:38 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe someone can answer this, why in the heck did Rivendell start
>>> making the seat tube inside diameter 26.8mm on the new bikes? I believe
>>> hearing something about seat tube wall thickness. Don't get me wrong, I
>>> think the new Geos make for a better ride, but it's way easier to find
>>> posts in 27.2mm all day long.
>>>
>>> Rivendell has the Nitto S83 in that diameter but it's a whopping 300 mm
>>> length 50 mm more than I need and also a whopping $128 before tax and
>>> shipping.
>>>
>>> Rant over n out.
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Ron Frazelle]

Sometimes when it comes to manufacturing, it's just about part number
rationalization...less part numbers to buy...less tooling costs. I don't
know if all of the other models are 26.8, but if they are this could be the
reasoning. It's just a guess though.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:01 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Maybe someone can answer this, why in the heck did Rivendell start making
> the seat tube inside diameter 26.8mm on the new bikes? I believe hearing
> something about seat tube wall thickness. Don't get me wrong, I think the
> new Geos make for a better ride, but it's way easier to find posts in
> 27.2mm all day long.
>
> Rivendell has the Nitto S83 in that diameter but it's a whopping 300 mm
> length 50 mm more than I need and also a whopping $128 before tax and
> shipping.
>
> Rant over n out.
>
> Hugh n LA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB- Used 55cm Atlantis frameset

[Ron Frazelle]

Thanks man!


On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:02 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Rooting for you to find your 55 sooner than later.
>
> Hugh
>
> On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 8:33:24 AM UTC-7 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As Hugh mentioned earlier in the week. I am wanting to buy a used 55cm
>> Atlantis frame and fork.
>>
>> Let me know!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Ron Frazelle]

Great build and a total 'beaut, Max!

Ron Frazelle
Anaheim, Ca.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:10 AM reynoldslugs  wrote:

> Here you go, Hugh - flickr album of my Atlantis:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157696979339224
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] WTB- Used 55cm Atlantis frameset

[Ron Frazelle]

Hi all, 

As Hugh mentioned earlier in the week. I am wanting to buy a used 55cm 
Atlantis frame and fork. 

Let me know! 

Thanks! 

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