[RBW] Price Drop - FS - Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost, Nitto Tallux (7cm, 26mm), and Riv Cork Grips

[Sean B.]

Price Drop:

S84 (used but good condition) - $100 shipped 
Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $50 shipped


On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 12:16:19 PM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:

>
> Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - SOLD
>
> still have: 
>
> S84 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped 
> Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 9:12:03 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Reposting as I listed the seat post as the incorrect model. 
>>
>> S84 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped 
>> Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped
>> Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - $30 shipped
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost, Nitto Tallux (7cm, 26mm), and Riv Cork Grips

[Sean B.]

 
Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - SOLD

still have: 

S84 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped 
Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped



On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 9:12:03 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Reposting as I listed the seat post as the incorrect model. 
>
> S84 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped 
> Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped
> Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - $30 shipped
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto Tallux (7cm, 26mm), Nitto S83 Seatpost, and Riv Cork Grips

[Sean B.]

Whoops, thanks Kai! I mistyped. It's an S84 Nitto Lugged seatpost. 

Kim, the seatpost is  27.2 x 250 

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 8:42:41 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Sean,
>
> What is the S83 seat post diameter ?
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 6:36:25 PM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> That’s an s84! Steel! Real! 
>> It’s considered as nicer than the s83 by most of the fine folks around 
>> here, so there, happy sales..
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 3:44:36 PM UTC-6 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Selling my Nitto seatpost, stem, and cork grips
>>>
>>> Tallux (only used for a few miles) - $60 shipped
>>> S83 (used but good condition) - $120 shipped
>>> Miesha's Cork Grips (new) - $30 shipped
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

[Sean B.]

Leah!

I'm in! Navy Pier can be a bit of a tourist trap, and might be hard to lock 
up a big number of bikes. Along the trail are a few cafe stands, and 
there's also a handful around Buckingham Fountain (with restrooms). 

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:30:23 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Sounds like it will be a good ride and I wish I could attend one of these 
> Rivendell rides. Maybe some day...
> doug
>
> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:04:35 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The celebrated Lakefront Trail in Chicago is calling. I’ve never done it 
>> but on August 26th, I’ll get the chance..and you’re invited!
>>
>> Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Rivendell dealer, will be expecting 
>> us. We will meet there at a time TBD on the morning of the 26th, visit the 
>> shop and then catch the trail from there. We will have lunch at the Navy 
>> Pier (restaurant also TBD, locals feel free to weigh in) and ride for maybe 
>> a total of 30-40 miles. 
>>
>> Bring your favorite Rivendell, some mad money to spend at Mack’s if you 
>> like, your sparkly personality and join us for our first Chicago Riv Ride. 
>>
>> Please let us know if you plan to attend!
>>
>> Leah Peterson and Marc Irwin
>>
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[RBW] WTB - Nitto Tallux 5cm Reach - 26mm Clamp

[Sean B.]

Please let me know if you've got one to sell, thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: A formal request to one of you...

[Sean B.]

Bill, 

Sent you a DM, but I'm not sure I did it correctly. Let me know if you 
didn't receive it. 

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 12:58:27 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I hereby request that one of you, who intend to purchase a complete 
> bicycle from Rivendell Bicycle Works in the very near future, add to your 
> purchase a Brooks B68 Saddle (only available with a complete bike purchase) 
> and then sell it to me, for a price you believe to be fair, considering my 
> contributions to RBWOB, and the pure audacity of the above request.
>
> Sincerely
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Nitto Lugged Stem (9cm) and MKS Lambda Pedals

[Sean B.]

Both have SOLD

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 9:43:02 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:

> Nitto Lugged Stem (9cm) - $110
> MKS Lambda Pedals (used only for a few miles) - $30
>
> Shipped CONUS
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions. 
>
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[RBW] Opinions on hanging style bike rack for cars

[Sean B.]

Hello,

Does anyone have experience with these types of car racks? I recently 
purchased one, but am now seeing a lot of negative opinions on them. 
Worried about damaging my girlfriend and I's Rivs. I went to a local Rack 
Attack store and they suggested the Thule Helium Pro 3. I shouldn't have 
trusted them as the reviews do not look great. Then again, should I trust 
online reviews? Hence why I wanted to ask the good people here.

Thanks!

  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hub sounds in Kraftwerk's Tour de France: 1983 and 2003

[Sean B.]

The Man Machine is my favorite.  But I think my favorite performance is an 
early show with the two members of Neu! It was quite a different band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72SmgSC56ek

So different that the remaining members pretend it doesn't exist. 

On Wednesday, March 23, 2022 at 11:01:42 PM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:

> Gotta say that Trans Europe Express is my favorite as well. I have tickets 
> to see their 3D show here in July. The last one was cancelled due to COVID 
> so hopefully this goes on as planned.
>
> I need to track down the original Tour de France and check it out. I only 
> have the 2003 version.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 23, 2022, at 3:01 PM, Nick Payne  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Back in 2015 Kraftwerk played a gig at the TdF *Grand Depart* in Utrecht.
>
> There's an interview in *Rolling Stone* with Ralf Hütter where he talks 
> about their long association with cycling: 
> https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kraftwerk-on-cycling-3d-spiritual-connection-to-detroit-56548/
> .
>
> My favourite Kraftwerk album, though, is not *Tour de France Soundtracks*, 
> but *Trans-Europe Express*.
>
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Sean B.]

The price on that AHH is ridiculous. You could get a brand new frame for 
cheaper. 

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-6 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> I forgot the link: 
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-58cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7449252554.html
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-8 Matt Maceda wrote:
>
>> 58cm 650b Rivendell A Homer Hilsen - $2,000 (Los Angeles)
>>
>> "Sale includes Frameset plus Silver brakes"
>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 10:53:02 AM UTC-8 Marty Gierke, 
>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, maybe too good a deal. It was sold before I could make the call. 
>>> Someone here snag it? I had a 64 QB a while back, but it always felt just a 
>>> little too tall for me. Fun bike though. 
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 9:38:45 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>
 That QB is a good deal! I’ve been swapping messages with the seller, 
 who runs a bike shop. It’s a consignment sale, which he says is a 
 cash-only 
 deal. Not really feasible for me, being on the opposite coast, but I’d be 
 surprised if he couldn’t find a local buyer.

 Jay Lonner
 Bellingham, WA

 Sent from my Atari 400

 On Feb 18, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 61cm Quickbeam, $1,100 in Cream Ridge, NJ


 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/362753662336585/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post
 On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Someone must be looking for this one, 62 hunq!: 
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-hunqapillar-62/7446589184.html
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:07:45 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I am so shocked that's still available.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not need another 52cm Riv mixte but I am seriously, seriously 
>>> tempted to inquire about that Glorius. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, Mike! I continue to look at these pictures and think about 
 Lyle's Rambouillet quite a lot. 

 On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:28:31 AM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Wow that is a cool art project! Just lovely.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 5:42:41 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> No relation to seller but an exquisite 62cm Rambouillet in San 
>> Francisco. Lots more pictures on instagram. 
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CZP662ePJRl/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *FOR SALE $1850“When you can’t find the barn, make the barn 
>> find!”I’ve been in a lot of barns and not once have I found a Rene 
>> Herse 
>> covered in cob webs or a Routens hanging from the rafters. Rather 
>> than die 
>> waiting I decided to have a go at making my own 6 years ago.Lots of 
>> international eBay purchases, de-anodizing, patination, dremeling 
>> and head 
>> scratching transformed this 62cm Rivendell Rambouillet into my 
>> French barn 
>> find/American Rat Rod fantasy.This was my forever bike, but I find 
>> myself 
>> needing to pay bills while I’m in Cal Fire academy. This bike has 
>> taken me 
>> across the Sierra and through the vineyards of Chianti. Works as a 
>> daily 
>> driver, L’eroica limo and country camper.PLEASE look at all the 
>> juicy 
>> detailed photos and descriptions in the highlights section of my 
>> profile.*
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.31.41 AM.png][image: Screen 
>> Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.20 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 
>> at 8.32.28 AM.png][image: Screen Shot 2022-01-28 at 8.32.45 
>> AM.png]
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[RBW] Shortening Stem Length

[Sean B.]

For awhile I've been riding my 2018 51cm AHH on a 9cm stem with the Nitto 
Noodles. Last summer I decided over the winter I wanted to shorten the 
reach a bit. I feel slightly stretched out when riding in the hoods, so I 
tend to ride on the ramps/tops. Shortening it 1cm is too little. So should 
I go for a 2cm or 3cm change? It's hard to see without actually riding on 
them, but my guess is the 2cm change might be the best for me (I realize 
this is super subjective). Does anyone else have experience with this 
issue?  

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[RBW] Re: Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[Sean B.]

Suggestion for A: 

https://northstbags.com/collections/bike-panniers/products/gladstone-grocery-pannier?variant=39679194562716

I've been very happy with all of their bag. 

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 4:57:48 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I'm curious if anyone has suggestions for the following that meet
> possibly weird and certainly nit-picky criteria.
>
> A. This is largely academic since the old Ortlieb Backrollers serve
> well enough, but I do prefer a flap with Fastek buckle instead of the
> rollup method of closure. So: What is the best grocery pannier,
> defining best by my own criteria, in order of importance:
> 1. Single compartment large enough to swallow a full paper grocery
> sack, and with no interior pockets or dividers of any sort;
> 2. Flap with single buckle.
> 3. As sturdy at least as the Ortliebs, tho' I don't care if it's
> cotton or nylon canvas or tarp material; and I do not need it to be
> waterproof, just water resistant (ie, not a sponge).
> 4. Has attachments with considerable lateral adjustment -- I must
> offset large panniers to the rear on the bike carrying it -- I prefer
> the Ortlieb-type of closure but I'm open to other adjustable systems;
> 5. Comes in red;
> 6. Has a nice convenient outer pocket big enough for a large bunch o' keys.
>
> Criteria 1 thru 4 are required, # 5 is important, # 6 would be nice.
>
> B. On rides like this afternoon's, 48-50 F but cloudy (full sun at 5K+
> feet is the equivalent of +10*F in air temperature) I like a ls med
> weight wool jersey + a second ls layer, and I've been using a full-zip
> wool jersey bought deliberately large. But the fit isn't as good as it
> might be. So:
>
> What is a good LS, full-cut (to fit over a ls wool jersey) medium
> weight wool (*wool* -- it has to breathe) with either a full zip or at
> least a long partial zipper (must be easy to get on over ls jersey),
> rear pockets preferred (I'd happily accept chest pockets, but it must
> have cycling-compatible -- drop bar cycling -- pockets). Red, blue,
> gray, orange, even, even black, but no pastels.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto M-18 rack

[Sean B.]

Robert,

What about the M-1B?

https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-m-1b-front-rack-silver.html

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 2:38:54 PM UTC-6 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Blue lug doesn't even have M-18s right now so I was hoping that one of you 
> no longer needed yours. I would be happy to trade for other parts if your 
> are looking for anything, or would be happy to send you cash. 
>
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Paul Racer Silver (for black)

[Sean B.]

John,

If Taylor is not interested in the pair, I am. 

On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 1:14:24 PM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Taylor,
>
> I have a pair of Racers in silver that I would like to sell. I was 
> planning to convert my Surly Pacer to 650B, but I didn't like the look or 
> ride, so I gave up on it. So the brakes are nearly new, only rode around 
> the block with them. The reach is too long for the Pacer, so I may as well 
> sell them to someone who can use them. I'll PM you with the details and 
> pics later today.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:31:45 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> The panda look requires you to mix the black and silver parts between the 
>> brakes, I believe.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:20:02 AM UTC-5 Taylor M wrote:
>>
>>> I have an incoming A Homer Hilsen and a set of mismatched Paul Racer 
>>> brakes, one black (front) and one brushed silver (rear). Anyone have a 
>>> silver front Racer brake to sell or trade for a black one? Also happy to 
>>> buy a complete set if that's preferrable.
>>>
>>> If not, the panda look is cool now, right...?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> T
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Sean B.]

Thank you for all the replies. I would like a SON rear light that's always 
on, and a secondary light. But, I dont have much room to mount a battery 
powered one. I was looking for some kind of hanging light to attach to my 
North Street trunk sack. The only hanging light I can find is Well 
google "hanging bike light" if you'd like.

Anyways, does any one know of a hanging light to attach to a bag?



On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 3:23:56 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> I have a SON28, Edelux 2, and the SON rear light mounted on the backside 
> of a Brooks. I don't feel totally safe with just the SON tail light, it's 
> great that it's there, but I def. augment it with something much much 
> stronger, namely a Diontte. I've been knocked off my bike three times in 
> Philly, once I started to ride with a Dinotte, people def. could see me. 
> The SON is cute, and it's nice to always have something on, but it's easy 
> enough to overlook from a driver's point of view, and I'm not totally in 
> love with the extra wiring going the rear of the bike. if I had this system 
> built out again, I'd just go with a high-end battery-powered light, the 
> Diontte is a game-changer in you have to ride in heavy traffic day or night.
>
> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-4 Chris wrote:
>
>> I have two bikes with dynamos one has a B&M top light small but the best 
>> solution I’ve found is the B&M taillight built into my Curana C Lite. I 
>> like the fender solution so much that that the bike with the top lite will 
>> get C Lite fenders simply for the ease and cleanliness.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Mathieu Brown  wrote:
>>
>> Good day Sean,
>>
>>
>> I know that this isn’t the answer to your question but both my local bike 
>> shop and Rivendell stated, this fall (as I built up my own dyno Riv) that 
>> for a lot of people, dyno rear lights might be more trouble than they’re 
>> worth. 
>>
>> I ended up with a Cygolight HotRod, based on recommendation.
>>
>> Nice and bright.
>>
>> Team, please feel free to tell us we’re soft here by only going dyno in 
>> the front…
>>
>> Mathieu Brown
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone.
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Sean B.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello!
>>
>> I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II headlight 
>> and was wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone have experience 
>> with the SON Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and what system are you 
>> using it on? I cant find many reviews online, so thought I'd ask y'all. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Sean B.]

 Hello Mathieu, what seems to be the trouble with them? 

On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 12:11:13 PM UTC-5 mathie...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good day Sean,
>
> I know that this isn’t the answer to your question but both my local bike 
> shop and Rivendell stated, this fall (as I built up my own dyno Riv) that 
> for a lot of people, dyno rear lights might be more trouble than they’re 
> worth. 
>
> I ended up with a Cygolight HotRod, based on recommendation.
>
> Nice and bright.
>
> Team, please feel free to tell us we’re soft here by only going dyno in 
> the front…
>
> Mathieu Brown
>
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
> On Oct 26, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Sean B.  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello!
>
> I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II headlight 
> and was wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone have experience 
> with the SON Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and what system are you 
> using it on? I cant find many reviews online, so thought I'd ask y'all. 
>
> Thanks! 
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[RBW] SON Rear Light Brightness?

[Sean B.]

Hello!

I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II headlight 
and was wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone have experience 
with the SON Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and what system are you 
using it on? I cant find many reviews online, so thought I'd ask y'all. 

Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

[Sean B.]

I use one of the mini protectors from Blue Lug to keep my bar end shifters 
from scratching the TT . They also make full top tube protectors too. 

https://global.bluelug.com/accessories/frame-pad.html

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:01:52 AM UTC-5 Drw wrote:

> If you were looking for just protection from handlebars flopping into the 
> top tube, the pake protector works really well, is small and not incredibly 
> noticeable...though i wish it was unbranded.
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:54:10 AM UTC-7 Leslie Tierstein wrote:
>
>> I don't know what you mean by "Riv-ish".  My favorite top tube protector 
>> is by Green Guru, marketed to messengers to help them carry the bike on 
>> their shoulders.  Velcro closure, not too much padding. Unfortunately, it 
>> is currently sold out:
>> Top Tube Protector - Green Guru Gear 
>> 
>>
>> Leslie Tierstein
>> Arlington VA
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 7:31:22 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>>>
>>> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to 
>>> peel off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from 
>>> an environmental perspective. 
>>>
>>> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very 
>>> good match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>>>
>>> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
>>> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
>>> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
>>> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>>>
>>> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
>>> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
>>> removable once it's been done. 
>>>
>>> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
>>> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
>>> anyone who makes something like that.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown

[Sean B.]

SOLD - Berthoud Aspin 

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:46:37 AM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Sean,
> Just sent you an email about the Aspin Open.
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 2:01:16 PM UTC-7 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> SOLD - Selle Anatomica  X1 
>>
>> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:51:59 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Bump and price drop.
>>>
>>> $170 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. 
>>>
>>> $70 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. 
>>>
>>> Price includes shipping CONUS.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 9:47:04 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Looking to get rid of some of my extra saddles. Buyer pays shipping of 
>>>> their choice (USPS, UPS, ect). Both saddles are in great shape. 
>>>>
>>>> $190 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. It's been ridden just under 
>>>> 150 miles. Treated once on both sides with Obenaufs.  
>>>>
>>>> $90 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. Ridden once, so lets say 
>>>> 20ish miles ridden. Never treated. 
>>>>
>>>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CrMECXF6d4MPvRQAA
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any questions or want more pictures!
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown and Selle Anatomica X1 - Oxblood Copper

[Sean B.]

SOLD - Selle Anatomica  X1 

On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 11:51:59 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:

> Bump and price drop.
>
> $170 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. 
>
> $70 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. 
>
> Price includes shipping CONUS.
>
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 9:47:04 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Looking to get rid of some of my extra saddles. Buyer pays shipping of 
>> their choice (USPS, UPS, ect). Both saddles are in great shape. 
>>
>> $190 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. It's been ridden just under 
>> 150 miles. Treated once on both sides with Obenaufs.  
>>
>> $90 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. Ridden once, so lets say 
>> 20ish miles ridden. Never treated. 
>>
>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CrMECXF6d4MPvRQAA
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or want more pictures!
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown and Selle Anatomica X1 - Oxblood Copper

[Sean B.]

Bump and price drop.

$170 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. 

$70 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. 

Price includes shipping CONUS.

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 9:47:04 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Looking to get rid of some of my extra saddles. Buyer pays shipping of 
> their choice (USPS, UPS, ect). Both saddles are in great shape. 
>
> $190 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. It's been ridden just under 150 
> miles. Treated once on both sides with Obenaufs.  
>
> $90 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. Ridden once, so lets say 20ish 
> miles ridden. Never treated. 
>
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CrMECXF6d4MPvRQAA
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or want more pictures!
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Sackville Trunksack and Nitto M18 Rack

[Sean B.]

Interested in the TrunkSack, what size is it?

On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 12:23:18 PM UTC-5 char...@gmail.com wrote:

> For sale (Email for photos):
>
> 1. Olive Green(ash) Rivendell Sackville Trunksack - $75 + Shipping
>
> 2. Nitto M18 Front Rack - $60 + Shipping
> Struts included are a pair of 22.25cm, 21.25cm, and 18.5cm (approximate).
>
> OR $120 for both + Shipping (~$8-15 I figure in the US)
>
> Thanks!
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[RBW] FS: Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown and Selle Anatomica X1 - Oxblood Copper

[Sean B.]

Hello,

Looking to get rid of some of my extra saddles. Buyer pays shipping of 
their choice (USPS, UPS, ect). Both saddles are in great shape. 

$190 - Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle - Brown. It's been ridden just under 150 
miles. Treated once on both sides with Obenaufs.  

$90 - Selle Anatomica  X1 - Oxblood Copper. Ridden once, so lets say 20ish 
miles ridden. Never treated. 

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/CrMECXF6d4MPvRQAA

Let me know if you have any questions or want more pictures!

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Re: [RBW] Sam sizing advice

[Sean B.]

I'm 5'9" and have a PBH of 83cm. I spoke with Grant and Vince and they both 
suggested a 51 AHH for me. I do ride in a city, so a lot of stops at 
lights. The extra stand over does benefit the start and stop. YMMV. 

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:47:01 AM UTC-5 Robert Blunt wrote:

> I am 5' 9" with a 79.5 pbh. I tried a 51 Sam with 650B wheels and it was 
> way to small. I have a 54 Sam with 700c wheels and the fit is almost dialed 
> in now with Ahearne map bars. The albatross bars had me too upright and I 
> didn't feel comfortable on the saddle. I have a 56 Bleriot which is pretty 
> dialed in with noodle bars. I mention it for the sake of comparison.
>
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 10:09 AM J S  wrote:
>
>> I’m now 5’5”, used to be 5’7”.  My 55 Bleriot is a tad larger (and 
>> tighter but not too tight) than my 51cm Sam.  My PBH is 80.6 (as close as I 
>> can get).  The 51 Sam is as big as I could go and I am using 48mm Rene 
>> Herse tires (Switchback Hill) with no issues. The Bleriot has 42mm tires on 
>> it.  Rivendell will always put you on the largest frame they believe will 
>> work for you.  I agree with this philosophy but you have to be careful and 
>> proactive.  With their reluctance to put standover heights in the specs  it 
>> makes things a bit more difficult for some.  
>>
>> I really like the Sam and love 650b (27.5) wheel size.  I like being able 
>> to get a fatter tire on the bike and run them at 35psi.  
>>
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:23:11 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Will:
>>>
>>> Don't forget that tire size will impact stand over height.  For 
>>> instance, 40 mm wide tires will be a bit smaller in diameter than 50 mm.  
>>> Don't know what the limit is for a Sam, but that is something to consider.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:52:07 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
>>>
 I’m 5’ 9” (used to be 5’ 10”) and measured my PBH at 83.  I measured it 
 again to be sure I was doing it right, then again a couple of weeks later.
 Every bicycle I had from 1975 on was 700c.  There was no way I was 
 going to go 650b.  I ordered a Sam in 2015, and Will set me up with a 55 
 Cm 
 frame even though I did not mention my aversion to 650b.  The SOH of that 
 frame was listed at 83.3.

 My Sam felt just a little “tall” for me.  Sliding off the seat forward 
 at a stop took some getting used to.  I did adapt, however, and now the 
 Sam 
 feels like it is part of me when I ride.

 Last year I got a 51 Cm Homer (650b), to see if a smaller frame would 
 be better.  It is MUCH too small.  Don’t do that.

 So I’m with J L.  Call Riv, and believe what they set you up with.  If 
 they try to set you up with a frame that takes 650b, and you don’t want 
 650b, buy something else.

 As for another model similar to a Sam, look for a Soma Saga.  A 
 Platypus is also listed as “a country bike”, but it feels nothing like a 
 Sam, while the Saga does.  I do think a good used Sam from the 2014 - 2017 
 era would be a good fit, and the 54 Cm probably would, too.  If you slide 
 off the seat, be sure to land on your toes.  ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Bike Navigation/GPS recommendations?

[Sean B.]

I got a beeline recently and I love it. I got it for the same reasons as 
you stated. It's not super cheap, but it's well made. 

https://beeline.co/pages/beeline-velo?utm_source=us.beeline.co

On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 11:40:55 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a lot of experience with these things from my back of nowhere off 
> road motorcycling. It's really hard to beat the Garmin eTrex series which 
> GPS City have on refurb right now -
>
> https://www.gpscity.com/garmin-etrex-30x-newly-overhauled
>
> Advantages are running on AA batteries which, if you don't have a charging 
> source, can be bought anywhere, the bike mount seems to be very sturdy as 
> is the unit overall. You can find deals at GPS City on the older models 
> too, I think all you'd be giving up there is the 3-axis true compass (works 
> while you're standing still).
>
> Garmin are almost the only choice out there now, but you don't have to use 
> their (expensive) maps as quality 3rd party free & paid products that are 
> compatible are available. Warning, the Garmin Basecamp software has a steep 
> learning curve & some idiosyncrasies. I design my routes in Google Maps 
> then export to GPX and load from that into the Garmin, also a lot of the 
> latest route planning apps will upload directly to the Garmin units 
> removing Basecamp altogether.
>
> Another option that you probably already have in your hand is your phone & 
> offline maps. There's a lot of confusion around this but the bottom line 
> is, you do not need to have cell service to use these. You can again route 
> plan in Google Maps (or any number of other apps) and download the map area 
> you will be in for offline use. The phone GPS sensors work irrespective of 
> a connection or not.
>
> Disadvantages to the phone are battery life (easily solved with a portable 
> charge pack), difficulty to see in bright light and in hot climates, over 
> heating in full sun (happens in Texas). There's a ton of bike mounts from 
> Amazon no-names to the great products from people like RAM Mounts.
>
> FYI; I have no affiliation to GPS City, have just bought a lot of refurb 
> units from them over the years & been super happy with them & their service.
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 10:00:04 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a simple, compact bike navigation device that I can mount 
>> to my bars when needed (and remove when not needed) to use on more 
>> complicated routes and rides. I don't care about tracking miles or speed or 
>> any other parameters, just directions. Does anyone have a recommendation, 
>> preferably on the cheaper end?
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Bags and a rack! Sackville, Fab's Chest, Nitto

[Sean B.]

Interested in the fabios chest, do you have the mounting hardware for the 
saddle? 

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 1:38:54 PM UTC-5 Adam Bowen wrote:

> Hi all! I have some bags for sale. All used, but not for very long and 
> none abused. Located in Philadelphia if you want a local pickup, otherwise, 
> I will ship at the buyer's expense. 
>
> Sackville TrunkSack Small - GREEN - $80 +$10 Shipping
> Sackville SaddleSack XSmall - GRAY - $60 + $10 Shipping
> Fabio's Chest, sewn by Swift Industries -  GREEN - LARGE - $200 + $20 
> shipped
> Nitto Mini-Front 32F - $90 + $20 shipped
>
> PHOTOS: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Toe348pvjfisziROnus48ArlyxbvHJno?usp=sharing
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs A. Homer Hilsen

[Sean B.]

Why do you think the chainstays on the Hillborne are shorter than the AHH? 
With the AHH being more of a roadish bike, I would imagine it would be 
opposite. 

On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 10:35:49 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> What I really like about Rivendell is that they do have a handful of 
> frames that will work for you no matter what...and that there are little 
> nuanced differences between Sam/Homer, Atlantis/Joe, etc... The differences 
> in sizing between the two helps cover all pbh sizes...I'm a touch over 
> 93cm, so a Homer (which I was planning on getting until recently) is tough 
> because I'd have more clearance than I need on a 61.5 , but might not have 
> enough clearance on a 64. The Sam's most recent run had a 62cm frame that 
> would be a perfect fit for me. Had I not just ordered an Atlantis the 
> Tuesday before they released the garage sale frames, I would have snagged 
> that 62cm orange Sam and would have got to keep using sidepull brakes. 
>
> I agree that having Sam and Homer offer different braking makes 
> sense...the Homer is less burly (according to Rivendell's catalog) so it 
> makes sense that it takes the more traditional roadie brakes. 
>
>
> On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 10:07:05 AM UTC-5 ted wrote:
>
>> I'll guess the Sam has gone back to being canti because the Homer is now 
>> MIT also. Now costs are similar (same?), both have 6 deg top tubes, etc. 
>> May as well make the brakes different.
>> I think choosing between a new Sam or Homer based on brake style 
>> preference would make a lot of sense.
>> Of course I also think choosing based on preferred color, head badge, or 
>> name would make a lot of sense too.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 7:56:14 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> How the canti-Sam became a sidepull-Sam early on involves a guess on my 
>>> part based on more arcane Riv knowledge than I should probably admit to 
>>> harboring:
>>>
>>> Originally the Sam showed up as a canti MIT version of the 
>>> Toyo/Waterford Saluki/Homer caliper bike. I believe the caliper Ram was 
>>> still around at this time, too, so Riv was all full up on caliper road 
>>> bikes. Later the Ram went away and Homer kept getting more expensive so Sam 
>>> morphed into the caliper road/country "standard" Rivbike. Now things are 
>>> all different and I won't try to figure out why it's canti again, I've been 
>>> arcane enough!
>>>
>>> Joe "he knows too much, yet is so little help" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 7:10:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 From an engineering perspective, what I appreciate about side-pull 
 brakes is that all the clamping forces are contained within the brake 
 itself, ie it does not exert any bending force on the fork/frame like a 
 canti or v-brake does. Even the braking force goes to the crown of the 
 fork 
 rather than the blades, so the fork blades can focus on other things. That 
 said, the tire clearance limitation is a problem if you like anything 
 bigger than a 42c. 

 Reminds me - James told me via email that the Charlie H Gallop is going 
 to be side-pull rather than v-brake like the prototypes



 On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 7:01 PM ted  wrote:

> New newer newest ...
> Standard oversised ...
> normal short long ...
> Traditional ...
>
> All relative terms whose meanings morph and evolve and the use of 
> which may or may not make sense to one depending on how long you've been 
> paying attention.
> From where I sit the waterford AHH and atlantis were the last of the 
> more "traditional" Riv designs, the break being 6 deg top tubes and more 
> limited sizing.
> With the longer wheelbase MIT models its another leap from 
> "traditional".
> Maybe it's because I grew up before mountain bikes, but to my eye 
> side/center pull brakes are traditional while cantilevers (not to mention 
> V 
> brakes) are new fangled. Discs new fangleder yet.
> But I think RBW would say they aren't about tradition but about 
> practical bikes and what works.
>
> There were side pull Roms and canti-Roms, there were side pull Salukis 
> and canti Salukis, there've been canti Sams and side pull Sams, the SOs 
> were going to be side pull but the builder used the wrong rear brake 
> bridge 
> so they ended up canti. Prior to their recent embrace of V brakes (and 
> the 
> slow march towards ever bigger and bigger tires) RBW seemed quite 
> agnostic 
> wrt the whole canti vs side/center pull thing, and they went back and 
> forth 
> quite a bit.
>
> I'm continually amazed at how strongly many folks feel about various 
> types of brakes. In my (admittedly somewhat limited) experience they all 
> can work fine. That said, I find side/center pull calipers the easiest 
> and 
> least fidly to set up. If they (side/ce

[RBW] Berthoud Aspin - To cutout, or not to cutout?

[Sean B.]

Hello,

I'm thinking about replacing my B17 Special and was looking at the Gilles 
Berthoud Aspin Open Saddle. Has anyone had and positive/negative 
experiences with them?  

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Trunksack - Grey - Any size

[Sean B.]

Sorry, I should also state that small is preferred. 

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 11:33:06 AM UTC-5 Sean B. wrote:

>
> Hello!
>
> Looking to buy a trunksack in grey. Let me know if you have one for sale. 
> Thanks! 
>

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[RBW] WTB: Trunksack - Grey - Any size

[Sean B.]

Hello!

Looking to buy a trunksack in grey. Let me know if you have one for sale. 
Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Sean B.]

Looking at the 51cm MUSA Atlantis since I'm local (Chicago). Looking for 
geo charts, but not having luck. Does any one know if that would be good 
for someone with a PBH of 82-83? 

On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 1:19:22 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Atlantis (Waterford) 
> 51cm 
> 2499 
> Chicago, IL 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/293702982295 
>
> Atlantis 
> 53cm 
> 2000 
> Ft. Collins, CO 
>
> https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/bik/d/fort-collins-rivendell-atlantis/7182940024.html

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[RBW] Re: FS: Components & Bags

[Sean B.]

$20 for both Velo Orange Complete Cable Housings for both Brakes and 
Derailleur? If so, I'm interested. 

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 12:26:00 PM UTC-6, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> Hi, TI'm cleaning out my parts/bags bin for the first time in years.  I 
> have several components and bags for sale.  Please feel free to PM me with 
> questions or to purchase items.  Prices do not include shipping.  Wherever 
> possible, items will be shipped in Postal Service flat rate boxes, the 
> cheapest way.  Oversize items, like handlebars will also be shipped USPS. 
>  Here a link to photos of these items:  
> https://share.icloud.com/photos/0YF2tSBunyv-_QyHrg74AtRnw
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Cole
>
> Arlington, Virginia
>
>
> Sugino XD2 Triple Crankset – brand new, never used – 48/36/26 - $125
>
> VP Adventure High Performance All-Mountain Pedals – brand new, never used 
> – $35
>
> MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals – brand new, never used - $15
>
> Nitto Noodle Handlebars – Model No. 177 Alloy – used very good condition – 
> 460 mm - $40
>
> Nitto Urban Riser Handlebars – Model No. B260AA Alloy Black – brand new, 
> never used – 480 mm - $25
>
> Nitto Albatross Handlebars – Model No. B352AA Alloy – 550 mm – used very 
> good condition -  $60
>
> Brooks B17 Saddle – Black, Steel Rails – Used, very good condition - $60
>
> Brooks B66 Saddle – Rare – Black, Steel Rails – used very good condition - 
> $45
>
> Nitto Seat Post – S65 Crystal Fellow – 27.2, 250 mm – nearly new Condition 
> -- $40
>
> Thompson Elite Seatpost – Black Model No. SP-E101 – 27.2, 330 mm – nearly 
> new condition - $40
>
> Dia-Compe Centerpull Brakeset – Silver – Model No. DC750 – used very good 
> condition – $25
>
> TRP Eurox Alloy Cantilever Brakeset – Silver – used very good condition -- 
> $50
>
> Mafac Tandem Brakeset – Silver – very used condition -- $20
>
> Shimano Bar End Shifters – Dura Ace 9-Speed – Used, scuffed, work 
> perfectly -- $30
>
> Suntour Barcon Bar End Shifters – friction – Well Used, work perfectly – 
> $40
>
> TRP Drop Bar Perforated Brake Levers – RRL Alloy – Black Hoods – Nearly 
> New – $50
>
> XLC Drop Bar Brake Levers – RL340L Alloy – Black Hoods – Nearly New -- $20
>
> Tektro Cross Brake Levers – RL726 Alloy – Silver/Black – Nearly New -- $20
>
> D+D Handlebar Mirror – Ultralite – Black -- nearly new -- $20
>
> Velo Orange Complete Cable Housings for both Brakes and Derailleurs – 
> Silver Metallic Braid – Unused -- $20/ both
>
> Sackville – Medium Shopsack – excellent used condition -- $45
>
> Sackville – XS Saddlesack – Olive – excellent used condition – $50
>
> V Brand (Rivendell’s Sackville Precursor) Grab Bag – Tan – very good used 
> condition -- $40 
>
> Minnehaha Barrel Saddle Bag – Black Canvas – Very good used condition -- 
> $15
>

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[RBW] Re: New vs. old Homer geometry, ride characteristics

[Sean B.]

As someone with a MIT AHH, I've wondered the same. Still have FOMO from not 
getting a MUSA AHH. 

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 9:50:01 AM UTC-6, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Hi all, I apologize if this has been discussed to death already but I 
> couldn't find this specific topic discussed by searching. 
>
> I am curious if anyone here has riding experience with both the new 
> geometry Homer's and the old Waterford version, as they are extremely 
> different looking bikes! I can buy into the notion that most people ride 
> bikes with too-short chainstays, but I have to admit, I cannot fathom 
> wanting to ride a bike with 475mm stays for sporty purposes.  I was very 
> excited to see the price come down, but the new geometry was a deal-breaker 
> for me.  I adore the original Homer, at least on paper (and on screen) but 
> the new version just does not 'look' sporty at all - but I fully realize 
> you can't tell how it rides by staring at it!
>
> My thought was it's an artifact of Grant's changing priorities as he gets 
> older, which is completely valid, but I'm not ready to go there yet (still 
> in my 30's, so hanging onto sportier geometry!).  As such, I bought one of 
> the final Sam Hillbornes because I viewed it as the last of that generation 
> of Rivendell, the generation that I identify with.  
>
> Maybe one day I'll find a 52cm Homer with the old geometry, but I am 
> really hoping there is a new model coming out in the coming years that will 
> fill the gap between the new Homer and the 700c road models. It feels like 
> a pretty big gap to me! 
>
> Photo of my Sam attached for viewing pleasure.  
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Tallux 130mm 25.4mm clamp

[Sean B.]

Hello!

Looking to buy a Nitto Tallux 130mm with a 25.4mm clamp. Please let me know 
if you've got one lying around. 

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

Thanks everyone for the responses! I've tried most things. Tilting the 
saddle more, putting on proofide, a different saddle, and a different 
seatpost. I have purchased a Nitto S84 seat post and a Selle Anatomica 
saddle. The S84 and the B17 got it a little bit closer to where I needed 
it, but I wanted to try a different saddle too. I rode the Selle Anatomica 
on the Kalloy Uno that came with my AHH, and it still hurt my tail bone. So 
to get it further back, I put the Selle Anatomica on the S84. I have yet to 
ride it, but it does look a little ridiculously far back. I should also 
mention that my sitbones are nor longer sore with either setup.   

My PBH is 78.74 so the frame (51cm) should be a good size even if it's 
slightly small. I'm now thinking about getting a 130mm Tallux to bring it 
all together. But it is getting quite expensive trying to get this dialed 
into cycling bliss. 

With that said, anyone selling a 130mm Tallux? I might make another post 
too. 

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

Does anyone think a seat post with an additional 1cm setback would make any 
difference? 

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 2:28:28 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Joe, I would concur as I have an 11cm Tallux and Alba's on my Hunqapillar 
> (original build from RBW), and I'm thinking about moving to a 13cm stem, or 
> maybe drops and a different stem altogether.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 11:42:20 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I'm surprised an 11 was recommended, I wouldn't even THINK of using an 
>> Alba on that bike with anything less than a 13cm Tallux. 
>>
>> I don't remember what I did with that AHH before I sold it, but my 
>> current similar-size road bike - a Paul Taylor - was running a 13 Tallux 
>> and V-O Milan before I switched it to drops. The Milan worked. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

John,

I'm using an 11cm stem and a seat post with a setback of at least 2cm (I'm 
currently unsure and unable to measure). I'm using the seat post that came 
with the bike. I'm also looking at a seat post that can give me a larger 
setback.  

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:26:44 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Sean, what is the reach of the stem you're using with the Albatross bars? 
> And what is the setback of the seatpost you're using?
>
> On my AHH, I'm using a Nitton S83 seatpost with 2cm setback, and Noodle 
> bars with an 8cm stem. I think Albatross bars would have me sitting on my 
> tailbone too unless I used a stem with a whole lot of reach.
>
> You might need a stem with more reach, and/or as others have said, you 
> might need other handlebars with some more reach.
>
> John
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:16:30 AM UTC-7, Sean B. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bunch!
>>
>> So I've recently set up my new MIT AHH with the albatross bars and the 
>> B17 special. I've only ridden it about half a dozen times (approx 50-60 
>> miles). I know there's to be some breaking in for the Brooks. But I'm 
>> wondering if the B17 was the wrong choice with the upright Albatross bars. 
>> My ride this morning has my tailbone quite sore. I haven't ridden much 
>> since last summer and it could be due to shifting my weight since my 
>> sitbones were sore from a long ride on Saturday. 
>>
>> Does anyone else ride with this same setup? Should I wait and see how it 
>> breaks in or try another saddle like the Selle Anatomica X1?
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

Thanks Joe! What did you end up going with? 

I really like these bars, even went with a longer stem like Grant 
recommended. I might try another seat post. VO has one with 30mm of set 
back, I'm not sure what my current is so will have to measure or call. Then 
again I might just abandon upright-ness and go back to drops. 

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:44:18 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> My first guess based on the bike you bought, and your desire to move the 
> saddle further back, is you need more room than the Albatross provides. All 
> Hilsens - MIT and otherwise - are designed as road bikes which can fit with 
> drop bars, which is the polar opposite of what you have. I owned a Toyo 
> 54cm AHH - the biggest one I could straddle - and the toptube was still too 
> short for the long reachback of Albas..I had the same problem you're 
> experiencing. 
>
> I think you'd be happier with a more forward bar like Wavie, original 
> Bullmoose, V-O Milan, or even a Jones Loop. 
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

Adam,

I have. The nose is pretty far up currently. 

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:42:50 PM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> with upright riding positions people usually tilt the nose of the saddle 
> up a little more than you'd expect. try that?
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:16:30 AM UTC-7, Sean B. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bunch!
>>
>> So I've recently set up my new MIT AHH with the albatross bars and the 
>> B17 special. I've only ridden it about half a dozen times (approx 50-60 
>> miles). I know there's to be some breaking in for the Brooks. But I'm 
>> wondering if the B17 was the wrong choice with the upright Albatross bars. 
>> My ride this morning has my tailbone quite sore. I haven't ridden much 
>> since last summer and it could be due to shifting my weight since my 
>> sitbones were sore from a long ride on Saturday. 
>>
>> Does anyone else ride with this same setup? Should I wait and see how it 
>> breaks in or try another saddle like the Selle Anatomica X1?
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:42:50 PM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> with upright riding positions people usually tilt the nose of the saddle 
> up a little more than you'd expect. try that?
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 10:16:30 AM UTC-7, Sean B. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bunch!
>>
>> So I've recently set up my new MIT AHH with the albatross bars and the 
>> B17 special. I've only ridden it about half a dozen times (approx 50-60 
>> miles). I know there's to be some breaking in for the Brooks. But I'm 
>> wondering if the B17 was the wrong choice with the upright Albatross bars. 
>> My ride this morning has my tailbone quite sore. I haven't ridden much 
>> since last summer and it could be due to shifting my weight since my 
>> sitbones were sore from a long ride on Saturday. 
>>
>> Does anyone else ride with this same setup? Should I wait and see how it 
>> breaks in or try another saddle like the Selle Anatomica X1?
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

I believe it was today (hitting the saddle), as it's the only time riding 
this set up that I've had the issue. I was riding a bit different to 
lighten the load on my sit bones. I would like to move the saddle further 
back a bit but cant due to the rails.  

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:24:32 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
>
> Hmm. is your tailbone actually hitting the saddle? that seems like more of 
> a fit/adjustment issue than breaking in. 
>

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[RBW] New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Sean B.]

Hey Bunch!

So I've recently set up my new MIT AHH with the albatross bars and the B17 
special. I've only ridden it about half a dozen times (approx 50-60 miles). 
I know there's to be some breaking in for the Brooks. But I'm wondering if 
the B17 was the wrong choice with the upright Albatross bars. My ride this 
morning has my tailbone quite sore. I haven't ridden much since last summer 
and it could be due to shifting my weight since my sitbones were sore from 
a long ride on Saturday. 

Does anyone else ride with this same setup? Should I wait and see how it 
breaks in or try another saddle like the Selle Anatomica X1?

Any advice would be appreciated. 

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[RBW] Re: New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

[Sean B.]

Cinzaw,

I can't give you a price. But what size is it? Might be interested once you 
come up with a price. 

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[RBW] Re: FT: My 54.5cm MIT AHH for your 54cm AHH or Saluki

[Sean B.]

My PBH is 78.74cm and I have a 51cm AHH. It's slightly small, but the 54.5 
would be too big. I do like the stand over though because of stop lights 
and whatnot. 

On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 2:30:07 PM UTC-5, phil k wrote:
>
> I currently have a 54.5 MIT AHH. I just built it up. It rides well, but I 
> think it's slightly big for me.
>
> I wanted to post here to see if any 54cm AHH owners out there wanted to 
> try the new long wheel base AHH. Let me know and we can work out a trade 
> and all the details.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!

[Sean B.]

I keep a hand crank on hand for emergencies. This is the one I use: 
https://www.amazon.com/JavaPresse-Grinder-Conical-Brushed-Stainless/dp/B013R3Q7B2/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_79_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=8CRZM5VX6DXTT22K7ZB3

They're mostly ceramic, so not as sturdy as steel. It will take about 5 
mins to grind the beans. I only use a Chemex or French Press so it's easier 
to achieve the grind needed. Turkish might not be great as even the entry 
level steel grinders have problems giving fine espresso/turkish grinds. 

On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 1:01:18 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, Sean. That looks inviting, but it's quite a bit larger than I need 
> (or that would be easy to store in my small coffee/tea cabinet). Is there a 
> conical burr grinder that is smaller and suitable for no more than 3 cups 
> of coffee, which I gather means about 1-2 oz of grounds?
>
> Does anyone have experience with the hand-cranked Hario grinders? How long 
> does it take, and can you get the grounds Turkish fine?
>
> A burr grinder would probably give me better results with my press, too ...
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 11:53 AM Sean B. > 
> wrote:
>
>> Conical burr grinders are your friend.
>>
>> This is the one I use daily: 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Encore-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B007F183LK/ref=zg_bs_14092821_4/140-2207164-7992160?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=A2DM02FNTSFEYG6CE5R9
>>
>> Also, I would never suggest buying in bulk or freezing. Buy fresh in 
>> small batches and grind right before brewing.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 12:40:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Newby questions. I buy beans in bulk, freeze, and grind at need. I 
>>> prefer (convenience, results) a Melita filter, and thus grind very fine -- 
>>> this seems (experience) to give best flavor.
>>>
>>> Now: I use a blade grinder. After 20 seconds, the resulting very fine 
>>> meal seems quite uniform (an I don't notice any degradation in flavor from 
>>> heating -- the stuff doesn't get hot, just very mildly warm). BUT: grinding 
>>> beans straight from the freezer leaves the meal hard to handle: it' like 
>>> staticky fine long hair; it goes everywhere and makes a mess.
>>>
>>> So my question comes down to this: I'm perfectly happy with the taste 
>>> from a blade grinder and Melita, but I'd like a grinder that doesn't leave 
>>> a mess when grinding frozen beans very fine.
>>>
>>> Would a burr grinder help in this regard?
>>>
>>> I see electric burr grinders for sub $50, and I see Hario crank burr 
>>> grinders for the same price. Which are better, and why?
>>>
>>> This place says no burr grinder under $100 is any good (I take it Harios 
>>> are exceptions to this rule). Is this rule right?
>>>
>>> Lastly: Open to general comments about storing, grinding, and brewing 
>>> coffee, but I am happy with my routine except for the mess described.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, drinking his coffee strong and black in Lenten ABQ, NM.
>>>
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>>>
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[RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!

[Sean B.]

Conical burr grinders are your friend.

This is the one I use daily: 
https://www.amazon.com/Baratza-Encore-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B007F183LK/ref=zg_bs_14092821_4/140-2207164-7992160?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=A2DM02FNTSFEYG6CE5R9

Also, I would never suggest buying in bulk or freezing. Buy fresh in small 
batches and grind right before brewing.

On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 12:40:33 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Newby questions. I buy beans in bulk, freeze, and grind at need. I prefer 
> (convenience, results) a Melita filter, and thus grind very fine -- this 
> seems (experience) to give best flavor.
>
> Now: I use a blade grinder. After 20 seconds, the resulting very fine meal 
> seems quite uniform (an I don't notice any degradation in flavor from 
> heating -- the stuff doesn't get hot, just very mildly warm). BUT: grinding 
> beans straight from the freezer leaves the meal hard to handle: it' like 
> staticky fine long hair; it goes everywhere and makes a mess.
>
> So my question comes down to this: I'm perfectly happy with the taste from 
> a blade grinder and Melita, but I'd like a grinder that doesn't leave a 
> mess when grinding frozen beans very fine.
>
> Would a burr grinder help in this regard?
>
> I see electric burr grinders for sub $50, and I see Hario crank burr 
> grinders for the same price. Which are better, and why?
>
> This place says no burr grinder under $100 is any good (I take it Harios 
> are exceptions to this rule). Is this rule right?
>
> Lastly: Open to general comments about storing, grinding, and brewing 
> coffee, but I am happy with my routine except for the mess described.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore, drinking his coffee strong and black in Lenten ABQ, NM.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 51cm Appaloosa full bike or frame and 50cm MIT Atlantis frame

[Sean B.]

Ash, 

Have you have you decided if you'll ship either of these frames? 

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 4:29:35 PM UTC-6, Ash wrote:
>
> Selling two Rivs to build two new Rivs.
>
>
> For now Bay Area only, until I figure out shipping logistics.
>
> MIT Atlantis 50cm Frame - $1,100
>
> 2017 green 51cm Joe Appaloosa - $1,525
> Frame only - $925
>
> - Rich built Velocity Atlas wheels with SP dynohub and VO Grand Cru rear 
> hub
> - Pasela tires (less than 200 miles)
> - Sugino wide/low crankset
> - XT 9 speed RD
> - XT cassette 11-34t
> - Microshift 9 speed thumb shifters
> - Deore V-brakes
> - Tektro brake levers
> - Nitto Dirtdrop stem
> - Sunlite Northroad Touring Handlebar
> - Bikeroo saddle
> - Origin 8 removable grips 
> - Clem Smith Pedals
>
> Will post pictures when the weather gets better (not enough space indoors 
> to take good pictures)
>
> Replacing the 50cm MIT Atlantis with the last available 46cm Appaloosa 
> frame I bought today.  
> MIT AHH will replace the green Appaloosa.  
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Fenders

[Sean B.]

A little leather under each mounting bracket will help silence the 
rattling. 

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:23:27 AM UTC-6, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> I’ve ridden with fenders off and on going way back.  I’ve only used 
> plastic fenders and never paid too much attention to the cosmetics of it 
> all - just tried to get them on and running without tire rub.  Naturally, 
> seeing all the beautiful pictures of bikes that show up here with nice 
> metal fenders, or wood, I’ve wondered what it would be like to get some 
> nice aluminum fenders installed instead of the SKS I have on my Atlantis. 
>  Not only might they look nice but I’ve read they don’t rattle as much so 
> are quieter than plastic fenders. 
>
> A few weeks ago, I bought an old Univega touring bike that had been 
> customized. What caught my attention was the full dynamo hub lighting 
> system.  I bought the bike for no other reason than to get the lighting 
> system for my Atlantis.  Although the bike was old and the build overall 
> did not look too recent, the lighting system seemed to be almost unused and 
> I got the whole bike for less than what I could have built up my own new 
> lighting system. 
>
> So back to fenders.  In addition to the lights, this bike had Honjo 
> fenders so here was my chance to see what some nice aluminum fenders are 
> all about.  Unfortunately, the fenders are rather narrow so there was no 
> way I could install them on my Atlantis with the 50mm tires I’m running.  I 
> chose instead to install them on my old Trek 720 mostly just to see what 
> they were all about.  I had read that metal fenders can be a challenge to 
> install requiring patience.  I learned this is true.  What, I think, I also 
> discovered is that these fenders wrap so much of the tire that removing and 
> installing the rear wheel with the horizontal dropouts is a bit of a 
> challenge and a nice fender line pretty much impossible (not that that was 
> ever very important to me).  I have tentatively decided these things are 
> made for bikes with vertical dropouts. 
>
> What I have not been able to confirm is that metal fenders are quiet or 
> even quieter than plastic fenders.  On my first ride, the front fender 
> rattled on any but the smoothest pavement.  I’ve traced that to the stay 
> mounting bracket on the fender and I think I can solve that rattle.  BUT, 
> the rear fender, while it does not rattle, it seems to function as an echo 
> chamber or whisper dome that amplifies all the noise of the drivetrain!  I 
> have trouble attributing this annoying feature to my lack of installation 
> skills.  After only one ride (maybe I need to be more patient), I’m kinda 
> thinking these things may not be for me.  Has anyone else encountered this? 
>  What am I missing about these things?  If I can’t figure that out I may be 
> trying to find a new home for these and probably drop thoughts of 
> converting to metal on the Atlantis. 
>
>
> Ha, the cockpit shown here also came from the Univega.

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[RBW] Re: MIT AHH reviews?

[Sean B.]

I've got one, but I have yet to ride it. Still building it currently and 
this winter has been brutal. I would like to know what some other have said 
about the MIT AHH.

On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:47:09 AM UTC-6, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> Since I have not found a Quickbeam, I have been considering a 58 AHH, but 
> I have not noticed any reviews.  Has anyone here gotten one?  What did you 
> think of it?
>
> I'm going to the Chicago Winter Swap in a few weeks and if I don't find a 
> QB by then, I might pull the trigger on a AHH.  I've got a MIT-Atlantis and 
> wonder how much they overlap.  
>
> Cheers,
> Matt Beecher
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Possible issue with Nitto Tallux stem and Nitto Albatross bars

[Sean B.]

They are the correct sizes. Both are marked 25.4, they only really slip 
when I stand up on the pedals. I feel like the clamp it already too tight, 
but I guess the only damage I could do would be to the bolt. It just seems 
odd to me seeing as these are both parts offered by Riv. 

On Friday, December 28, 2018 at 12:02:16 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I know it sounds basic, but you’re sure the bars and stem are the same 
> size? It’s hard to tell by looking at them. 
>
> With long bars like the Albas, you’re applying a lot of torque on the 
> stem/bar connection, so it’s going to be a little harder than usual to keep 
> them from rotating. 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Sean B. > 
> wrote:
>
> The bars rotate down within the stem when weight is applied to the bars. 
> "Hammering" down on the bolt = over-tightening the clamp. 
>
> On Friday, December 28, 2018 at 11:49:42 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Sean:
>>
>> What’s slipping? The bars in the stem, or the stem in the steerer? How 
>> does “hammering down on the bolt” work?
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Sean B.  wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Has anyone experienced and slippage with this setup? I know i have the 
>> correct sizes, but it keeps slipping when the bolt is tightened. I'm afraid 
>> to keep hammering down on the bolt and damaging anything. How tight is too 
>> tight? Any tips?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Sean 
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Re: [RBW] Possible issue with Nitto Tallux stem and Nitto Albatross bars

[Sean B.]

They are the correct sizes. Both are marked 25.4, they only really slip 
when I stand up on the pedals. I feel like the clamp it already too tight, 
but I guess the only damage I could do would be to the bolt. It just seems 
odd to me seeing as these are both parts offered by Riv. 

On Friday, December 28, 2018 at 12:02:25 PM UTC-6, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Sean, are you absolutely sure of the clamp size of the stem you have?  The 
> Albatross bars are spec'ed at 25.4 (I believe) and the Tallux stem is 
> available in 25.4 or 26.0.  A 26.0 version would cause what you are 
> describing, at least without using shims.  I know some stems are clearly 
> marked but I do not know about the Tallux.
>
> Bob
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Re: [RBW] Possible issue with Nitto Tallux stem and Nitto Albatross bars

[Sean B.]

The bars rotate down within the stem when weight is applied to the bars. 
"Hammering" down on the bolt = over-tightening the clamp. 

On Friday, December 28, 2018 at 11:49:42 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Sean:
>
> What’s slipping? The bars in the stem, or the stem in the steerer? How 
> does “hammering down on the bolt” work?
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Dec 28, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Sean B. > 
> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Has anyone experienced and slippage with this setup? I know i have the 
> correct sizes, but it keeps slipping when the bolt is tightened. I'm afraid 
> to keep hammering down on the bolt and damaging anything. How tight is too 
> tight? Any tips?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Sean 
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[RBW] Possible issue with Nitto Tallux stem and Nitto Albatross bars

[Sean B.]

Hello!

Has anyone experienced and slippage with this setup? I know i have the 
correct sizes, but it keeps slipping when the bolt is tightened. I'm afraid 
to keep hammering down on the bolt and damaging anything. How tight is too 
tight? Any tips?

Thanks.

-Sean 

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[RBW] Re: 2018 AHH Seatpost tube size question

[Sean B.]

Yeah, definitely sounds like I got the wrong one. I'll have to contact them. 
Now I'm just hoping I didn't damage the frame. 

I think I'll be good with 250. But thanks for the insight and info!

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[RBW] Re: 2018 AHH Seatpost tube size question

[Sean B.]

Is it 27.2 x 250? 

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[RBW] 2018 AHH Seatpost tube size question

[Sean B.]

What size seatpost does the frame use? Does frame size change the diameter? The 
frame came to me with a 26.8 x 250. I think it's too small as I have the clamp 
bolt tightened all the way down. Afraid to give it too much more force.

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[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

[Sean B.]

That's beautiful. What size are the tires and what kind of fenders?

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 11:48:21 AM UTC-6, ML / SF wrote:
>
> My 2018 MUSA canti-AHH is stamped C1
>
>
> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 10:27:46 AM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>>
>> First two characters please. Thanks.
>>
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