[RBW] Re: FS: (1)56cm Bombadil Frame, Fork, Headset and Bullmoose Bar (1) 61cm Rambouillet Complete

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Is the Bombadil confirmed sold?

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 2:37:46 PM UTC-4, AJ wrote:
>
> Bombadil sale is pending.  
>
> On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 4:34:03 PM UTC-4, AJ wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> In need of thinning the collection.  The Bombadil frameset was purchased 
>> from a list owner a few years ago.  The Rambouillet has been with me for 
>> over 12 years.
>>
>> Pics:  
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TKc0u4ON-8W7GBhWQXiY7Yj8QT1CRLkB?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> *Bombadil - $1,350 *
>>
>> In  very nice shape, with normal scrape here and there.  Chris King 
>> headset included, along with a bullmoose handlebar. 
>>
>>
>> *Rambouillet - $1,800*
>>
>> In very nice shape, I'd call it it a 7-8 out of 10.
>>
>> - Nitto Noodle 46
>> -Chris King Headset
>> - Tektro Brake Calipers
>> - 9 speed Ultegra Rear Derailleur (Road rash from different bike)
>> - Sugino Crank 46-36-26
>> - MKS Pedals
>> - Selle An-Atomica Titanico Seat
>> - Nitto Seatpost
>> - Dura-Ace Wheelset
>> - Nitto Stem
>> - Grand Bois Tires
>>
>>
>> Both Riv's are available for pickup in Rochester, NY and surrounding 
>> areas.  Shipping will be $60 for the Bombadil and $110 for the 
>> Rambouillet;  Paypal.  Lower 48 ship to destinations.  I'm hoping these 
>> will find a good home.
>> I have a non-riv bike for sale, a 58cm Moots Psychlo X, please private 
>> message if you are interested. Enjoy the rest of your weekends. -AJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Also, the VeloOrange Curvy One is more like the Albatross/Billie:

https://velo-orange.com/collections/new-products/products/curvy-one




On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>
> Anyone have a recommendation for a 31.8 bar that is similar in shape and 
> length to the map/ahearne bar? Or even something like an albatross would 
> work. Has to be silver. 

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[RBW] Re: ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Virgil Staphbeard]

VeloOrange Curvy Too

https://velo-orange.com/collections/new-products/products/curvy-too




On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 9:46:36 AM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>
> Anyone have a recommendation for a 31.8 bar that is similar in shape and 
> length to the map/ahearne bar? Or even something like an albatross would 
> work. Has to be silver. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell World Headquarters Visit

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Cool spoke nipples! 

On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 3:22:33 AM UTC-4, Ben Miller wrote:
>
> Today my girlfriend, Megan, and I took a trip to Walnut Crick and visited 
> RWB World Headquarters. She'd been eyeing a Sage Sam or a Forest Green Clem 
> Jr, and ended up settling on a Clem with the help of Will and Grant. 
>
> All in all a great visit. Got to see the new MTB fork in the flesh (I'm 
> not sure it was just me, but I thought you could see through the top blade 
> segment; you can't it's just the same colour as the background in the 
> Blug). 
>
> A highlight was when we went on a test ride, her on the Clem and me on a 
> new AHH. Inexplicably the Homer got a front flat about half way through the 
> ride. But a quick call to Will and Grant came out and swapped out the Homer 
> for a new Atlantis. Two test bike rides for one! Later on Will said he 
> couldn't remember anyone ever getting a flat on a test ride, so maybe I'm 
> that lucky?
>
> After that, details of Megan's Clem were settled on and what not. I've 
> attached a picture of her and Grant discussing bar tape wrapping options 
> and configurations. Meanwhile I talked with Henry and Vince briefly and 
> swapped SF dirt rides with Will. 
>
> On the way back, Megan remarked how great it is that we are so close to 
> RWB and asked if it's just dumb luck. It's her first bike as an adult, and 
> she very happy with her choice. I own/have own a number of Riv bikes, but 
> maybe I take for granted a little bit how lucky it is that they're so 
> close. It's truly a unique business with unique individuals and a strong 
> community backing it. It is definitely fun to be a part of that community. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I don't but I'd check ebay for old MTB wheels. I have exactly what you're 
in search of laced to a 26" rim that I found on ebay for $75 shipped. It 
was pretty much new. No one seems to be interested in 26" rim brake wheels 
or has the foresight to delace one I suppose. 

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:22:55 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Sadly these are no longer in production...and I have always had an 
> irrational thirst for their super loud pawls.  
>
> Wishing on a star someone has one on the shelf collecting dust.  The high 
> flange model is currently a two month lead time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
> ***If you have one but it's not silver, I'm all ears
>

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[RBW] Re: 2000 All Rounder

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Wow great build and lovey frame!

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 9:25:42 AM UTC-4, Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
> Short ride on a foggy Sunday morning to shake things down and make minor 
>> adjustments. Swapped everything over from the Atlantis in no time at all, 
>> although I did use some older XT derailers I had on hand. Not much to dial 
>> in, it's a really wonderful ride. The NCRR Rail Trail Station in New 
>> Freedom PA offers some nice photo ops, so here you go.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 cm Bleriot

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Those were my thoughts, a 61 seem on par for an 89 PBH.

On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 4:19:33 PM UTC-4, rob markwardt wrote:
>
> [image: fullsizeoutput_458.jpeg]
> hmmm...do I need a spare? I have a 61 Bleriot and love it.  FYI...my pbh 
> is also 89 and I find the size perfect for me.  In fact it's probably the 
> smallest bike I own.  
>
>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Cheviot first impressions & pics

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I figured it was to avoid the cable rubbing the stop, thanks for the info.

On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 12:32:55 AM UTC-4, Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>
> Thanks for the kind words everyone!
>
> Virgil, my main concern was to have the brake cable secured in the cable 
> stop somehow and to not just rub against the edge of the stop.  The link 
> above to Joe's build shows that he used a part from a brake noodle to put 
> in the stop.  But I also wanted to center the cable on the top of the 
> downtime (the stop is off center) before I connected it to the cable 
> hanger.  So, I ordered one of these clamp on cable stops 
> , 
> centered it an inch and a half down from the stop, and ran a bit of cable 
> between them. Brake operation feels smooth and strong.  It adds an extra 
> piece, which irritates my minimalist sensibilities, but oh well.
>
> Jon, measuring at the outer knobs, the tire is between 50-51mm wide.  Yes, 
> every ride I'm appreciating the bike's qualities more and more.  I can't 
> wait to spend all day on it!
>
> Jason, this video 
> 
>  
> shows that Paul ran a 45mm fender & 32mm tire in the Racer Mediums.  The 
> Racers are larger-- I read somewhere that there's 54mm between the pivots. 
>  So maybe 50mm with 45s?  
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Lightning bugs taste sweet. Who knew?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:05:31 AM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> ...Not so sweet that I felt a great need to increase the sample size...
>

Ha I about spit out my coffee. 

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[RBW] Re: ~2003 Atlantis, 10 months in

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I love the current build, it looks fantastic!

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 2:03:14 PM UTC-4, Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>
>
> For its 10th mensiversary with me 
> ,
>  
> I wanted to do something special for the bike that has become my favorite 
> bike ever, my first genuine "forever" bike.  I also wanted to post on its 
> progression, and my impressions of it, to give back a little to the group 
> from whom I've learned so much.
>
> The special thing I did was that I had a Chris King 2nut headset and Paul 
> brake levers installed.  Previous parts were Ritchey and Shimano, 
> respectively.  By 'special' I don't just mean higher quality, but also 
> something like that I'm ready to commit.  I'm in it for the long run.  Both 
> upgrades add to the experience.  The Ritchey consistently came loose after 
> any rough riding and so psychologically I felt unease about certain riding. 
>  And the Paul levers mesh perfectly with the touring cantis on the bike.  
>
> The photo of it propped up with a branch is the current setup.
>
> In this setup, it is the first bike I've ever had that "disappears under 
> me".  I've come very close with one other bike, a Ross Signature 292s, but 
> that is a story for another day.  I luckily hit upon a saddle/bar combo 
> that fits me perfectly and works seamlessly with my wheel/tire combo.
>
> I installed a B17 when I first built it up.  I also had 44cm Noodle bars 
> on it.  See this thread for a photo 
> 
>  
> of that setup, and the attached photo with a wheel/tire upgrade (more on 
> that below).  The B17 felt almost right, but just didn't have enough rail 
> space to get it set back to that point where it would be perfect.  I kept 
> pushing myself to the back of the saddle, which was annoying.  I looked 
> into several seatposts with more setback, but never pulled the trigger on 
> one, and so rode the Atlantis less.
>
> In early June I tried an upright setup with a set of VO Klunker bars, 
> thinking that the upright position would work better with the saddle 
> position.  It did, kind of, but I didn't like being so upright on the bike. 
>  I need some "lean" with my bars.  
>
> Somewhere around this time I got myself a C17 cut out saddle for the Ross, 
> and loved it.  It has a little more rail space than the B17, and so I 
> thought, why not try it on the Atlantis?  I hadn't yet given up on the idea 
> of an upright bar, and was intrigued by the upcoming Wavie bar. 
> 
>   
> In that thread, Clayton mentioned a "Simworks bar", so I began 
> investigating and that turned up the Simworks Getaround Bar 
> .  (Also shown in one of the 
> pics looking down, with me waving :))  I got the last one that MashSF had 
> in stock!  When it showed up at my door, the C17 came off the Ross (since 
> replaced by another), I got the longest stem I could find in my parts stash 
> (a 130mm Thomson Elite with 5 degrees of rise), and built it up.  
>
> The results: bliss!  I was gleaming within the first pedal strokes, and 
> was so excited that I rode halfway across town to show a buddy, leaving 
> behind wallet/keys & an unlocked door.  Oops.  Finally my body position 
> felt perfect on the bike.  
>
> The wheels & tires also contributed to the bliss felt on that ride.  I 
> started out with 42 Soma Cazaderos.  Great tires.  But last spring there 
> was a thread about Schwalbe G-ones 
> and
>  
> whether they would fit on an Atlantis.  As seen in the photos, that 
> prompted me to install some 2.1 29er tires.  I was hooked.  I sold a frame 
> and some other stuff here to fund my first hand built set of wheels (shout 
> out to Eric @ Monkey Wrench Cycles! !!!) 
>  and in late March, came into possession of a set of Velocity A23s laced to 
> XT hubs, shod in 2.1 Thunder Burts, all tubeless ready.  The photo of the 
> bike leaning against the wall was from the maiden voyage.  
>
> The Thunder Burts are fantastic tires on this bike!  They are supple and 
> grippy.  Not to mention super fast rolling. I'm so impressed by this 
> frame's versatility as I reflect on how flawlessly it performs regardless 
> of tire size.  In either iteration I can always count on hands free 
> stability, steady straight rolling while descending, and intuitive 
> steering.  And it always goads you to go keep pedaling.  
>
> Looping back to the beginning of this narrative, the other special thing I 
> did for its 10th was 

[RBW] Re: Sealant Seepage

[Virgil Staphbeard]

To clarify, I wasn't suggesting the speed while mounted to the vehicle 
caused or aiding in the seepage, but merely the sealant that seeped out was 
blown around post seepage which could cause the odd spatter patterns. 

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 8:41:22 PM UTC-4, jandrews wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
>
> The seapage/splatter what-have-you has happened three times as far as I 
> know.
>
>
> All within the last week.
>
>
> I have been moving my bike quite a lot on the rear carrier, including 
> driving down to NYC on the interstate and back last week.
>
>
> So ... perhaps that could have something to do with it , but I can’t say 
> for sure if the offending seapage splat happened going 70mph or 7mph.
>
> I cleaned the wheels each time it happened so I know it happened thrice.
>
>
> Also, as noted earlier, it was brutally hot, humid and rainy during that 
> week.
>
>
> There has been no issue the last two days since I most recently cleaned 
> the wheels and my bike has been in and out of the house , ridden a few 
> miles and not on the car.
>
>
> Im fairly certain it’s not something that is splattering onto the wheel 
> like mud.  It’s Stans. It’s wet and wipes off dry. Also, I never said I 
> thought the rims themselves were seaping. But hey, if Quantum Tunnelling 
>  can happen, then 
> it’s all fair game. 
>
>
> I’m feeling a little meh about this whole tubeless experiment for myself. 
> I like tubes. There I said it.
>
>
> And Peter, Thanks for the recommendation!
>
> I was just at the Acropolis last month...and am currently deep into Donald 
> Kagan's Ancient Greek History lectures podcast
>
>
>
> 
>
> B.S. (before splatter)
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sealant Seepage

[Virgil Staphbeard]

To clarify, I wasn't suggesting the speed while mounted to the vehicle 
caused or aiding in the seepage, but merely the sealant that seeped out was 
blown around post seepage. 

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 8:41:22 PM UTC-4, jandrews wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
>
> The seapage/splatter what-have-you has happened three times as far as I 
> know.
>
>
> All within the last week.
>
>
> I have been moving my bike quite a lot on the rear carrier, including 
> driving down to NYC on the interstate and back last week.
>
>
> So ... perhaps that could have something to do with it , but I can’t say 
> for sure if the offending seapage splat happened going 70mph or 7mph.
>
> I cleaned the wheels each time it happened so I know it happened thrice.
>
>
> Also, as noted earlier, it was brutally hot, humid and rainy during that 
> week.
>
>
> There has been no issue the last two days since I most recently cleaned 
> the wheels and my bike has been in and out of the house , ridden a few 
> miles and not on the car.
>
>
> Im fairly certain it’s not something that is splattering onto the wheel 
> like mud.  It’s Stans. It’s wet and wipes off dry. Also, I never said I 
> thought the rims themselves were seaping. But hey, if Quantum Tunnelling 
>  can happen, then 
> it’s all fair game. 
>
>
> I’m feeling a little meh about this whole tubeless experiment for myself. 
> I like tubes. There I said it.
>
>
> And Peter, Thanks for the recommendation!
>
> I was just at the Acropolis last month...and am currently deep into Donald 
> Kagan's Ancient Greek History lectures podcast
>
>
>
> 
>
> B.S. (before splatter)
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sealant Seepage

[Virgil Staphbeard]

To everyone's comments on the odd splatter patterns after their Dexter-like 
analysis, this could be in part due to the photos being taken while mounted 
on a hitch rack. Was the vehicle in motion prior to the photos being 
captured?

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[RBW] Re: Seen at RBW Today -- New MTB proto?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Ahhh I was curious. I love that frame; I've been ogling it off and on all 
day. 

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 4:00:09 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:
>
> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 6:44:55 AM UTC-7, Virgil Staphbeard wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that's lovely. What's that on the DS chainstay behind the housing 
>> stop?
>>
>>>
>>> When you asked, I wondered too. So I went to the garage to look. 
> Apparently it's just a trick of the light, maybe caused by the transparent 
> chainstay protector.
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Seen at RBW Today -- New MTB proto?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Wow, that's lovely. What's that on the DS chainstay behind the housing stop?

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 7:46:26 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:
>
> The real reason I was there was to pick up my repaired and repainted 
> Bombadil, which looks like this:
>
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Also, the addition of a decaleur or cable hanger in the stack adds to the 
loosening potential ,provided they don't have their own locking potential 
(i.e. Paul Funky Monkey or Mark Guglielmana decaleur). The locknut fails to 
do its job if there is potentially rotating part introduced between them. 

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 11:05:06 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> The "secret" to properly snugging a threaded headset is to use two 
> wrenches (in the case of a non-Rinko style). The spanner kind goes on the 
> cup flats, and it's really helpful to use the Stein-type (now also made by 
> Park) that's chunky and grabs around about 230 degrees and cannot slip. You 
> lightly overtighten the cup, then countersqueeze the keyed washer with 
> opposing forces on both wrenches. Let me say that if I didn't know exactly 
> what all these words meant, it would seem like a hassle, but it is super 
> easy. Like anything on a bike or in life, it takes a little practice to 
> develop the skill, but so does every mechanical adjustment on your bike. 
> Once you have it down, it takes roughly 20 seconds, maximum. The actually 
> tightening, 4-5 seconds. 
> The PROBLEM is that -- kind of like learning to patch inner tubes or 
> remove and reinstall the rear wheel when all you ride is Schwalbe tires -- 
> there's not a lot of opportunity to learn.
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:59 AM, hugh flynn  > wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:37 PM masmojo > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>> Riv, people don't have problems with headsets coming loose!? Wow, I 
>>> wonder what their secret is, I've never owned a bike with a quill stem that 
>>> didn't  eventually need to be tightened. (& I've tried many techniques to 
>>> tighten them so they don't come loose). On the other hand I've never had a 
>>> threadless come loose.
>>
>>
>> Doubt it's Riv specific but in 40+ years and many 1,000's of miles of 
>> cycling with both threadless and threaded headsets, I've never had a 
>> problem with either and have yet to perform a field adjustment either on or 
>> off road.
>>
>> Hugh "not a big problem for me" Flynn
>> Newburyport, MA
>>
>>> -- 
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>> Newburyport, MA
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[RBW] Re: RBW Emails Being Tagged as Junk

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Yep, mine went to junk on gmail at first. I had to white list Riv so I 
would receive them. 

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 9:49:07 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I’ve recently noticed that Apple’s Mail apps (on computer and mobile 
> devices) has recently started sending many (most?) messages from this list 
> to a Junk folder. Ads about stuff for sale seem to be especially 
> affected—the original post goes to junk, but the replies to the list come 
> through. Other than that, there’s no readily apparent logic. Posts about 
> cool rides and interesting photos also get the spam treatment. 
>
> Has anybody else noticed this? 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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Re: [RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

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I unfortunately will be out of town this weekend, but I'm in for a meetup 
and ride sometime. 

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:48:55 AM UTC-4, MattB wrote:
>
> Virgil,   My description was very awkward, its an Atlantis painted in the 
> original Hilborne orange color. It's widely understood that Orange is the 
> fasted color.  I've run across a black Hilborne parked at the Jazz Kitchen 
> a couple of times, I haven't been able to track down the owner!  Maybe we 
> could get together this coming weekend!
>
> matt
>
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Virgil Staphbeard  > wrote:
>
>> Yep I'm in the SoBro Butler area. And Matt, I'm not sure if you were 
>> saying only Hilborne or only orange Hilborne, but I have a friend in Indy 
>> that has a black Hilborne.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 1:30:26 PM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
>>>
>>> Matt and Bob, let's make a plan! Any other Indy rivs out there? Virgil?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Yep I'm in the SoBro Butler area. And Matt, I'm not sure if you were saying 
only Hilborne or only orange Hilborne, but I have a friend in Indy that has 
a black Hilborne.

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 1:30:26 PM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
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> Matt and Bob, let's make a plan! Any other Indy rivs out there? Virgil?
>
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[RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

[Virgil Staphbeard]

They could be moose-style to remove the ability for people to use an 
"unsafe-by-nitto-standards" stem. 

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:20:14 AM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Grant. I can understand Nitto's position. I have a lot 
> of miles on those bars in road and "gravel" conditions and I don't get any 
> sense that they are weak or dangerous.
>
> Also, not sure what the deleted message said but I surely didn't intend 
> this to be a controversial post. I'm not a "gravel grinder" guy trying to 
> change Riv, just the opposite, I think if people had a chance to try extra 
> wide drop bars they would see how Riv-like the riding position is. I simply 
> fell out of love with my 48 noodles after riding for a year or so on a bike 
> with albatross bars (and another with the underrated surly open bar"). My 
> point is that Rivendell has been instrumental in advancing smart, safe, and 
> more comfortable ways to ride bikes. I rode tons of road bikes in the 90s 
> and 00s with standard 42-44cm bars. In general the idea was to stretch out 
> forward over the bike (long stem helped with the narrow bars). This put 
> your arms into a more narrow position (and I was also taught to bring my 
> elbows in). I know a lot of people that still ride this way and I'm not 
> asking anyone to change, but I just like the more upright riding position 
> that Rivendell has often supported.
>
> Like I said, I'm not a huge Crust guy. I just happened to see a picture of 
> that magic beard guy with a prototype of the 666mm bars and reached out to 
> them at the right time and got a set of the bars. It took a while to get 
> used to them (and the super short stem set up), and I still think they are 
> a bit too wide, but I have to say I have been really transformed by the 
> ability to ride drop bars while staying more in the position one is usually 
> in with a set of upright bars, and go just a little faster. This has been a 
> big deal for me. This was the reason I sold my Quickbeam and bought a new 
> Atlantis. I thought the Atlantis was stout enough to handle the wide bars, 
> and I love the way the Atlantis rides with the wide bars and huge 55m 
> Compass tires. 
>
> I'll keep an eye on my stem/bar combo, but I can't imagine the 5cm 
> technomic is a risk in road and gravel trail riding. So maybe we need a 
> 55-58 Noodle AND a pretty 5cm cromo stem? :)
>
> Thanks!
> Brynnar
> Indy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 3:23:38 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 12:22:45 PM UTC-7, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>>>
>>> Nitto tests bars and stems together and wants the bars to break before 
>>> the stem. The bars are already strong, and they've found that even 51s (we 
>>> had samples made) impose too much leverage on the stem. The workaround 
>>> might be to make stronger stems, but then you get into a whole escalating 
>>> mish-mash where one chases the other, and stems, which have forced 
>>> dimensions inherited down the line, and then all you can do is make it 
>>> steel. 
>>> One of the drawbacks of working with NITTO is accepting their 
>>> super-prudence in times like this.  It's like, also, when our 66cm Wavie 
>>> bars come in---we'll recommend them only with CrMo or other Nitto stems 
>>> intended for mtn bikes. Some will mount them on Tallux (road) stems, but we 
>>> will recommend something stronger. When NITTO hears "mountain bike riding" 
>>> they imagine the worst and stupidest. Personally, I don't think at all that 
>>> Crust is being IMprudent with the widies. It's a good company and they do 
>>> neat, good things!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 1:55:10 PM UTC-7, ctifusion wrote:

 I'm sure the 666mm Crust bars are way too wide for most, but I love 
 them. And they don't really make them anyway, I was just in the right 
 place 
 when they brought out the one run. I keep waiting for someone to put a 
 wide 
 drop bar into production.

 I think a 58 Noodle would be a huge hit for a lot of riders. 

 Thoughts?

 Brynnar
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[RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I didn't realize you were from Indy until I read "Scott at ICS." I hope to 
see you and the Atlantis on the road someday.

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just finished my Atlantis build and I couldn't be happier. I've been 
> coveting (and riding) Bridgestones and Rivendells since the 90s and, though 
> I had a Quickbeam and still have vintage B-stones and a bunch of vintage 
> bikes, my last major/modern build was based around a 60cm LHT with 26-inch 
> wheels and Compass RTP tires. Just couldn't justify/afford a Rivendell 
> build five years ago. And that's ok, the LHT has served me well and will 
> continue to be my rough weather/winter bike. But I've been wanting a new, 
> geared Rivendell for a long time.
>
> The sizing on the Sams was just off enough for me (I'm right between the 
> 58 and 62) to pass on it the couple times I got serious and I never took a 
> serious look at the Appaloosa. I have a collection of vintage 80s mountain 
> bikes that are just too close to justify getting a Clem. So when I saw the 
> new Atlantis I was hooked. I have always loved the color and I've been 
> dying to try the modern long wheelbase Rivs. 
>
> I've built a lot of bikes with different versions of the classic riv build 
> so I was looking to do something different and (in my mind) modern. I 
> decided on a 1x11 (ended up with a 1x10), fat tires, and the super wide 
> Crust bars (swapped from my LHT which will go back to an upright bar). I 
> was worried about having to use a couple black parts to make the 1x10 set 
> up work but I think it looks pretty cool. I can do a full parts list if 
> anyone is interested.
>
> I will still use my LHT for the majority of my committing and winter/rain 
> riding. The Atlantis will be used for longer rides and hopefully adding 
> some more serious mileage to my routine. I've seen my pleasure riding 
> diminish recently, so it's time for a new bike and some new roads.
>
> I finished it last night and was able to get a few miles on it before dark 
> (and of course it's been raining all day today!). I immediately found it a 
> really engaging ride, especially compared to the LHT which is stable but a 
> bit "dead." I'm a big guy and the combination of the stout frame, long 
> wheelbase, and fat Compass 55cm tires makes for a stable and lively ride. I 
> LOVE the extended read end, especially when cornering and accelerating from 
> a seated position. I'll post a more detailed ride update with the rain 
> clears.
>
> I should note that it took 2 chains because of the wheelbase, other than 
> that everything went smoothly on the build.
>
> Best,
> Brynnar
> Indy
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Thanks Grant

[Virgil Staphbeard]

But is it supple?

On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 7:57:02 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Morality planes. 

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar bar rotation at stem clamp?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Chrissie, give me a schtickle of fluoride.
On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 11:43:33 AM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> I've never tried it but you might entertain a schtickle of carbon 
> paste...might lend some additional friction.  
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 9:32:16 PM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> I've been experience rotation of my Billie at the stem clamp when 
>> applying heavy loads to the bar ends - wondering if anyone else has 
>> experienced this.
>>
>> I ask because of Grant's mentioning on the BLAHG about Nitto missing the 
>> mark on the 22.2 bar end diameter; I'm wondering if they, too, potentially 
>> hit under spec on the 25.4 clamp diameter, leading to the rotation I'm 
>> experiencing. 
>>
>> Or, alternatively, at 190 lbs. with that long torque arm of a bar, I'm 
>> just able to make it budge...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> D.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Model(s) going away

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Aforementioned quotes: 

"More affordable A Homer Hilsens are replacing Sams later this year 
(they're so similar)."

"...so don't forget to to buy a Clem H when the last shipment comes in this 
fall. Last chance for the "cheap" Riv."

"Last run of Clem H"

On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 8:58:53 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The newsletter pretty unambiguously declared the MIT Hilsen is replacing 
> the Hillborne, so there will be no more Sam Hillbornes. The newsletter also 
> said a little bit more ambiguously that Clem’s are going to end. For the 
> year or forever wasn’t clearly stated, but it said the last of the cheap 
> Rivs. Those who were calling for streamlining are getting it. 
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] When bad fasteners happen to good bikes

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Check OP's second photo as you're describing how the rack is mounted. 

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:12:23 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> You can still use a regular screw with washers on both sides of braze on 
> and a nut on the end-if you can still get the screw through the hole.
>
> Congrats on finding this group. This is a fun group and a great place to 
> learn about your Rivendell.
>
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[RBW] Re: When bad fasteners happen to good bikes

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't owned a Clem, but aren't typical 
rack braze-ons M5?

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:22:13 AM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> The trail that recently led me to this group began when I was Googling 
> information on repairing buggered braze-on threads. A post here entitled 
> *Stripped 
> CLEM dropout braze-on* was absolutely spot-on. My problem was stripped 
> threads on a couple of braze-on fittings on the rear drop out of my 
> new-to-me Clem Smith Jr. This couldn't have been a better match; the 
> collected wisdom in that post exactly addressed my questions and concerns. 
> So, of course, I needed to join up. 
>
> This preamble circles back to the point I suggest in the subject line: *When 
> bad fasteners happen to good bikes*.
>
> While many on this list have owned their bikes since new, others have 
> acquired them second- or third-hand, or some further multiple. Bikes that 
> have passed through numerous sets of hands often suffer from a lesser level 
> of care and feeding than a good bike deserves. What I came across on my 
> third-hand Clem was not just a couple stripped threads -- I've committed 
> that crime myself -- but true fastener innovation.
>
> Those of us whose thinking stays within the box typically use an M6 
> fastener in an M6 threaded hole. It seems to work well enough. But 
> innovative thinkers might consider the use of a vibration-resistant, 
> serrated-flange, self-piercing sheet metal screw in that M6 threaded 
> braze-on. While not an obvious solution, the advantage of this butchery is 
> two-fold. The integrated serrated flange ideally secures the looped wire 
> rod of the rear fender stay, while the self-piercing capability of the 
> thread cuts its own path in the braze-on regardless of preexisting M6x1.0 
> threads. Genius! This particular application deserves bonus points because 
> the perpetrator went so far as to paint the offending fastener in a very 
> close match to the Clem's green frame. It's not without a certain artistry.
>
> Apart from some understandable whining, my purpose in bringing up this 
> topic is to see what kinds of creative destruction others have experienced. 
> I'm throwing down the gauntlet. Can you top this?
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: 59 Clem H Frame/Fork/Headset - Grilver

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Haha I now know who outbid me!

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 9:26:38 AM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> Dang, I just bought a scratched up green frameset from eBay. The grilver 
> is a nicer color. Though I like the mustard of the Clem I sold last year 
> best of all. Go figure. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Tuesday, June 5, 2018, tc > wrote:
>
>> $700.  
>>
>> This is the F/F/H from the complete that I've been unable to sell.  It 
>> has 20 miles on it, if that.  I've decided to transfer most of the 
>> components to my wife's Cheviot.
>>
>> If anyone is seriously interested, please send an email off list.  No 
>> pic's yet of the disassembled bike; those will be coming soon.  Pic's of 
>> the complete as it stands now are here:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ykyb86tUQy07gVMh2
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>   
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[RBW] Re: How I came to own, and enjoy, a Clem Smith Jr

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I wouldn't use that as a reference. Bikes go cheap on ShopG. 

On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 12:05:00 PM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> No, but that sad specimen certainly puts a damper on any visions I might 
> have had regarding the value of mine. The GoodWill Kettler is a naked bike 
> compared to mine but is similar in terms of frame geometry and layout. 
> LeRoy
>
> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 1:39:31 PM UTC-4, Virgil Staphbeard wrote:
>>
>> This wouldn't happen to be yours?
>>
>> https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/53229637
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Hammock camping?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I use the REI Quarter Dome Air Hammock as I'm a side/stomach sleeper. It's 
a bridge hammock design. I have an Enlightened Equipment Revolution top 
quilt which I love. As others have mentioned, you'll need an under-quilt or 
a sleeping pad (less ideal) for warmth. 

On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 11:29:43 AM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm heading out this weekend for a 2 day trip with some friends 
> and planning to take a hammock and inflatable pillow instead of my usual 
> tent setup that I use for backpacking. The only other times I've camped via 
> bike I've lugged the tent, but I'm going for lighter this time around.  
> I've a tarp to string above the hammock in case of light rain, and if the 
> forecast calls for anything more than that, I'll scrap this plan and bring 
> a tent. 
>
> Seeing as there seems to be a pretty big cross section between Riv riders 
> and bike campers, I wondered if anyone has any tips to share? I'm 
> specifically asking for tips for a first time hammock camper, but if anyone 
> has any great tips for camping via bike in general, I'm happy to take those 
> as well. 
>
> Also, I realize the "Riv-content" of this post is pretty loose, so if it's 
> not appropriate, someone let me know and I'll delete. 
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>

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[RBW] Re: How I came to own, and enjoy, a Clem Smith Jr

[Virgil Staphbeard]

This wouldn't happen to be yours?

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/53229637

On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 1:39:57 AM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
>
> This is my first post and follows the initial shakedown ride on my 
> new-to-me second-hand Clem Smith Jr. I'll make the short story long. I 
> returned to cycling three years ago after a 20-year hiatus. I haven’t 
> really been an avid cyclist since my twenties and that period is about 40 
> years in the rearview mirror.
> On returning to cycling I dusted off and gave a mechanical once-over to a 
> 25 year old Kettler Alu-Rad, a bike I bought new in 1991 while living in 
> Germany. The Kettler is an aluminum-framed German bike fitted out as what 
> would probably be called a hybrid today. Its geometry is early ’90s 
> mountain bike style but, following the German norms, it’s a fully-fendered 
> bike with lights, generator, rear rack, spare spokes and another kilo or 
> two of paraphernalia. So much for the lightness of an aluminum frame. As I 
> rode the Kettler at this stage of life, it became clear that it was no 
> longer the bike for me. The wheelbase is quite short, the fork rake 
> somewhat steep and the whole bike rides in a twitchy and jarring fashion. I 
> knew within a few months of returning to cycling that a new bike was in 
> order. The search commenced. 
>
> The first good move that I made was not to buy anything the first year, or 
> the second. It took me that long to get reacquainted with what’s on the 
> market these days. I didn’t really know what would suit my riding style and 
> anticipated future uses. As things developed, I found myself turning away 
> from the mountain bike look and configuration. What I mean by that is the 
> more I looked, the more I found that things like flat bars, front 
> suspension, aluminum frames and the latest whizz-bangery didn’t seem to add 
> much to the riding I was doing. Plus, I don’t look good in lycra – not that 
> there’s anything wrong with the look, just not on me!
>
> I stumbled across Brooklyn bikes one day and found the style interesting 
> but the overall presentation a little too hipster-ish. However, the 
> brochure and website both referenced Grant Peterson and Rivendell for their 
> guidance. That brought me to the rivbike site. I spent a year or so getting 
> acquainted with the product line. So much for the preamble.
>
> Ultimately I began looking for a used Clem Smith Jr in the 52 or 59 size.  
> The drivers of this focus were budgetary, the Clem’s general versatility, 
> the ability to fit wide tires and various styles of racks, and the expected 
> benefits of an improved ride and more upright seating position. However, I 
> didn’t want to make an expensive mistake. Hence a search among used bikes.
>
> Since Rivendell bikes are thin on the ground here in southeast Michigan, I 
> used a search function to scan Craigslist nationwide.  On a side note, 
> had I found this RBW Owners Bunch sooner, I’d likely also have found a 
> Clem sooner. I eventually found the bike I bought in New Jersey, 
> conveniently close-ish to my brother’s place in Delaware. On a recent trip 
> there I looked at and bought what I understand is a first generation Clem 
> 59: green frame and swept rear seat stays are among its tell-tales. The 
> bike included fenders, front and rear Soma racks, Clem pedals, Schwalbe Big 
> Apple tires and a generic saddle. Overall it’s a very good-looking 
> combination.
>
> On reassembling the bike at home (extensive disassembly is necessary to 
> fit a Clem 59 into a Jeep Renegade with three fellows and luggage on board) 
> I was glad that this required going over the bike pretty extensively. As I 
> got it, the bike was in overall good shape. However, I found some buggered 
> threads in a few braze-ons, a tie-wrap where a bolt would have been better 
> on the rear fender installation, and one really horrifying use of a 
> self-tapping metal screw used in a stripped braze-on. That one had me 
> cursing a previous owner’s butchery. Chasing the threads and enlarging a 
> few from M5 to M6 threads cured the issues. Everything went back together 
> in a sound and solid fashion. 
>
> So, what about my first impressions after the shakedown ride? It’s a 
> delight! My chief point of comparison is the overly stiff and compact 
> Kettler described above. The Clem is a whole different ride and much the 
> better for its differences. First, the wheelbase is nearly 8 inches longer 
> and the Clem’s seating position is well forward of the rear wheel. As a 
> result, feedback from the road, bumps and thumps are all muted due both to 
> the geometry and the damping characteristic of the steel frame. The 29-inch 
> wheels and Schwalbe tires add an easy-rolling feel compared to the 26-inch 
> wheels and ancient Continental Town and Country tires on the Kettler. The 
> upright seating position and Bosco bars redistribute my weight such that my 
> hands are more naturally-positioned and are carrying 

[RBW] Re: Coffee Making Question

[Virgil Staphbeard]

@redsydude That's the White River in Indianapolis. I'm not sure what the 
weir/low head dam is for. I'm assuming it's to raise the hydraulic head of 
the river considering it's right in the city. 

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 7:52:06 PM UTC-4, redsydude wrote:
>
> What river is that?  What's the weir for? Thanks.
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 7:54:02 AM UTC-7, Virgil Staphbeard wrote:
>>
>> I use an aeropress as well. I also have a reusable drip filter with 
>> 'legs' that clip onto a cup if i'm trying to go lighter. 
>>
>> We have a group that meets pretty much every Sat. or Sun. morning via 
>> bike and brews coffee.
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z1BE4atu47g/Wu3Y6-lTMJI/LOI/dGj4OL6-SEwoPVtIN2lu5_xYSn_FSZTxACL4CGAs/s1600/IMG_20180505_092247.jpg>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l-x1wRTR86I/Wu3Y3-dxdZI/LOI/ArMt4vXt-fEBqzeeHQh6yHNGxspBzoAxACL4CGAs/s1600/IMG_20180505_095210.jpg>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:02:26 AM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
>>> I notice a strong correlation to those who love Riv Bikes, for a love of 
>>> coffee. On instagram I see a lot of coffee brewing bike kits for when folks 
>>> are out on their bikes. I am curious to know what people use. If you have a 
>>> coffee bike kit, would you share what you take with you? 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Making Question

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I use an aeropress as well. I also have a reusable drip filter with 'legs' 
that clip onto a cup if i'm trying to go lighter. 

We have a group that meets pretty much every Sat. or Sun. morning via bike 
and brews coffee.






On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:02:26 AM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> I notice a strong correlation to those who love Riv Bikes, for a love of 
> coffee. On instagram I see a lot of coffee brewing bike kits for when folks 
> are out on their bikes. I am curious to know what people use. If you have a 
> coffee bike kit, would you share what you take with you? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tire Pressure Question

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I ride my 32 GB Cypres at 40/45 F/R and I weigh 135

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote:
>
> For those of you who ride 700 x 32-35 size tires (with tubes) on roads, 
> what is the minimum tire pressure you're comfortable using? 
>
> I realize there are factors such as rim width, tire compound and rider 
> weight that influence this. Many thanks for your feedback!
>
> Best regards,
> Richard
>

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[RBW] Re: Billie Clem McFlip

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Hey, a fellow Indy rider, nice!

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 9:48:18 AM UTC-4, Zed Martinez wrote:
>
> Sorry, in lieu of the recent conversation about the state of things, I'm 
> one of the guys that's been quiet. Back when I was posting more I was in 
> the middle of planning my wedding and I think the stress made me a bit 
> snippy when I didn't mean to be, so, I backed out for a while. Which turned 
> into a longer while, as I only have the one Riv (I keep spending all the 
> money that could buy me a second on cameras, which I feel is also on-brand 
> since the last two were an overhaul for an OM-2N and a Bronica ETRSI...) 
> and not a lot to add most days. But now, I've got some of those new Billie 
> bars all flipped on my Clem because while I came to terms with the Boscos 
> they were still never really what I wanted, and since I ride my Clem on the 
> 'I just barely fit' side I never could quite get them as low as I wanted. 
> The Billie's sounded nice and I needed a pre-summer project, so, I bought a 
> pair and threw on. Since there's not a lot of pics of them out and about 
> yet I brought the camera along for a few rides so far. So, consider these 
> my contribution to the sum knowledge of how the new bars look.
>
> Image album (sadly not shot on film, but maybe I'll add one once that 
> OM-2N comes back...) 
>
> There's a 3-shot pic in there of how it rides at the ends, middle, and 
> hooks. On a 52cm Clem H with a 100cm Technomic Deluxe (the short one, not 
> the Tallux) at minimum insertion, Billies flipped.
>
> Note: I'm only about 5 rides in (and all reasonably short, 7 miles or 
> less), so, the adjustment's maybe not final, but it feels like it's getting 
> close. I also feel I can't comment too much to the ride yet, because it's 
> not really enough time to get to know them, but, I can give some initial 
> impressions?
>
> 1. I want to love it. I think I might. They feel very natural in a way the 
> Bosco never did for me, and remind me a lot of using my Albastache on my 
> old Fuji rebuild, except the come back farther and that's welcome.
>
> 2. The Clem feels a lot zippier. I don't know that it is, but it feels it 
> and that definitely changes my impression of the ride. It also always keeps 
> my hips rotated right so I'm getting better pedal strokes, so, it might 
> prove to make the Clem faster over time just for that reason.
>
> 3. Man they make the Clem look even longer. Long and low indeed.
>
> 4. The curve of the hooks when flipped is just perfect for me. Love it. 
> Can't get enough. Find myself jamming in them even when I told myself I'd 
> take it easy. 
>
> On a slightly different note, I'd been experiencing a little wrist 
> stiffness on the Boscos after the winter wind tunnel effects that I think 
> were because they were a little too high, and that seems to be getting 
> better the past few days after the switch. If that keeps up it'll have been 
> worth it for me regardless of the rest. That so far they make the bike just 
> feel fun is really just a bonus, but it's a nice bonus.
>
> -Zed, commuting away in Indianapolis
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem-L, Bosco handlebars: where to put the bell?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Off topic, but I have been considering Boscomoose bars and was curious if a 
pocket tender would fit in the center triangle. Howard seeing as you have 
both, could you shed some light on this?

On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 10:22:56 AM UTC-4, Howard Hatten wrote:
>
> Hi Rod. 
> This location works well for me. Flick it with the forefinger. 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/136422809@N08/M5WtMu
>
> Howard
> Livonia Mi
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Ha I'm glad I read the last paragraph because I was going to comment on the 
lack of bolt on the seat stay bridge. You may want to use beeswax or some 
mild loctite on the set screw. I used set screws on some unused bottle cage 
bolts in the past and one worked its way into the seat tube. Luckily it was 
easy to get out, but the seat stay bridge could be another story. 

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 3:29:41 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Thank you for the kind words to all who approve of my new Legolas, and 
> thank you for the discretion to all those who disapprove.  This build 
> started as a conceptual Rivendell Custom, but in my conversations with Mark 
> and Grant, this is where that ended up.  My intent was to build my favorite 
> Rivendell, and I'm very pleased with how it turned out.  My build is 
> complete now.  I added black Newbaums with two coats of shellac and a 
> carbon water bottle cage.  I swapped out the silver steel water bottle 
> bolts for black alloy ones.  The total weight is 19.4 pounds and ready to 
> roll.  I might have to wait until Monday to actually take it on a proper 
> ride, since I'm prepping for another race-day tomorrow.  
>
>
> 
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>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
> Now my stable is packed to bursting.  I have a lot more bikes than a 
> normal person needs, but every bike has its purpose and place in my life, 
> and I don't think there are any that I'm planning on actively ignoring or 
> passing over.  Nobody asked, but in case you are curious, there is a 
> downtube cable housing stop for a front derailer, so I have a 2x drivetrain 
> option for the future if I decide I want more gears and more range.  The 
> tiny build detail that is on my bike that I've never seen before was a 
> special touch Mark performed when prepping the frame for me.  I have fender 
> attachment points at the seatstay and chainstay bridges (normal).  You want 
> to plug those holes with bolts so mud and rain don't get in there and rust 
> outward (normal).  Mark installed tiny M5x0.8mm stainless grub screws, 
> instead of water bottle bolts.  In the last photo you can see my seatstay 
> bridge and you can see where the fender will attach, but you can't see the 
> tiny grub screw plugging the hole.  It's SUPER clean, and an incredibly 
> nice touch.  I'm going to go buy some of those grub screws for that 
> application on my future builds.  Thanks Mark!  
>
> Again, the color is called "amethyst smoke" which reminded me of Mel 
> Torme's nickname "The Velvet Fog".  I might call my bike "Mel Torme".  I 
> also thought about calling him "Sal", short for Salogel, (Legolas 
> backwards).  That name occurred to me because Rivendell can't promote any 
> LotR named bikes, but they already have the Legolas artwork.  They should 
> mirror image the Legolas artwork and do a run of Salogel cyclocross race 
> bikes for us to buy. 
>  
> Happy Spring
>
> Bill amethyst-smoke Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:23:36 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> That is a fact.  Dremel is a weight savings tool.  I did cut off the 
>> seatpost to 2.5" of sunk depth and that saved me 22g.  I celebrated the 52g 
>> of chain I got to cut off, thanks to my 1x drivetrain and SHORT 
>> chainstays.  The steertube weight reduction was 49g.  
>>
>> Maybe I'll do some skids to lighten up the tires.  :)
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:19:15 AM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
>>>
>>> Great looking Legolas! But you could shave off a little more weight if 
>>> you did like P Moore and Dremel'ed off the rack eyelets.
>>>
>>> jim m
>>> walnut creek, ca
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 11:11:52 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 On January 30th I asserted that it should be straightforward to build a 
 sub-20 pound, off-road ready Legolas.  Here it is:


 

 It's confirmed at 19.3lb, saddle and pedals included.  All it needs is 
 handlebar tape and a water bottle cage.  


 Bill Lindsay 

 El Cerrito, CA


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[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

[Virgil Staphbeard]

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[RBW] WTB 56 cm Hunqapillar

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I'm putting the feelers out for a 56 cm Hunqapillar.

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Virgil Staphbeard]

Wow that looks great!

It sort of reminds me of my Piolet:




On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 5:34:24 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> It's a stretch for Riv-content here, but I promise there is some.  The 
> obvious Riv content is limited to hemp twine, Newbaums bar tape, components 
> from White Industries and Paul, who are Riv vendors.  I bought the CX70 
> front derailer and brakes from Riv.  The whole idea of a Monster Cross, or 
> more correctly a drop bar mountain bike, definitely have Rivendell's 
> fingerprints on it.  Anyway, here it is.
>
> 58cm Black Mountain Monster Cross
> Cane Creek 40 headset
> HED Belgium C2 Plus rims, Dura Ace hubs, Ultegra Skewers 10sp 12-30 
> Ultegra cassette.
> WTB Bronson 29x2.0 tires with tubes
> White Industries VBC 172.5mm cranks 42/26 rings
> Shimano SPD pedals
> CX70 front der 
> Ultegra rear der
> Shimano 10sp barcons on Paul Thumbies
> Paul Boxcar stem, modified cable stop
> Salsa Cowchipper bars
> SRAM S500 brakelevers
> Shimano CX70 brakes
> Niner Carbon seatpost
> Avocet O2 saddle
> Khaki Newbaums tape with amber shellac
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Happy Birthday to me, from Rivendell

[Virgil Staphbeard]

That's awesome and exactly what helps make Rivendell Rivendell. 

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 5:15:21 PM UTC-5, J Imler wrote:
>
> I rode by Rivendell today b/c I'd asked Rich to inspect my front rim for 
> wear. He said it was totally fine.
>
> While I was there, Grant stepped out and gave me an envelope with some 
> printed black and whites. On a previous visit with the kids he broke out a 
> camera stand and snapped a few pictures.
>
> What a nice gesture, and it was my birthday which made it super cool!
>
> I hauled the kids over that time with the bike traincheck it out, so 
> fun.
>
>
> 
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