[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto R10, Nitto Uplift, Carradice SQR

2015-09-21 Thread dailyrandonneur
Update: All sold. A buyer took the lot. Thanks to other inquirers for your 
interest. 

Ed


On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 10:27:29 AM UTC-4, dailyrandonneur wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I've got some extra saddlebag support racks I used with Carradice bags. 
> All clamp to the seat post -- useful for bikes without rack mounts.
>
> See photos of everything are at: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/albums/72157656545073274
>
> Items ship tracked Priority Mail from 20024 in Washington, DC. Discounted 
> pricing for local pickup.
>
> Paypal accepted. Preference goes to multiple item orders; deduct $5 for 
> each additional item; or take all four for $120 shipped.
>
> 1. Nitto R10 rack. 20.5cm stays, uncut. No. 1 in photos. Slight 
> discoloration spot on underside. With seatstay clamps. $50 shipped.
>
> 2. Nitto R10 rack. 26 cm stays, uncut. No. 2 in photos. With seatstay 
> clamps. Marks on stays at clamp bolt locations. $50 shipped.
>
> More details on the R10 at: 
> https://www.benscycle.com/p-2107-nitto-r10-rear-rack.aspx
>
> 3. Nitto Uplift, the old model that is long gone, Grant sold it in the 
> early days of Riv. I picked this one up from another rider who used it, and 
> everything looks in order, no cracking at the clamp. I cleaned it up but 
> never installed it. $25 shipped.
>
> 4. Carradice SQR uplift. Briefly used, clean and in good working condition 
> with the spring needed for the plastic red slider in the block. You need a 
> minimum 49mm exposed seat post. $25 shipped. More details at: 
> www.sjscycles.co.uk/carradice-sqr-saddlebag-uplift-system-prod621
>
> Thanks. Any questions, please don't hesitate. 
>
> Ed Felker
> Washington, DC
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.

2015-07-04 Thread dailyrandonneur
I've got both, a 59 Bleriot and a 58 Rambouillet. Both have Noodle bars and 
B-17 Brooks saddles. 

The Bleriot with GB Cypres 32mm tires feels a tad flexier, but has more 
stable handling. When it arrived as a frameset I was impressed with how 
light it felt. 

I had SS couplers installed and rode this bike for a full brevet series 
and PBP in 2007. It was terrific.

The Rambouillet with 28mm Michelin tires feels stiffer, a bit more 
substantial, with somewhat quicker steering. I also rode brevets on this 
bike, and completed BMB in 2004 on it. 

They are kind of different. Both are fun to ride, but the Bleriot tends 
toward comfort (the bigger tires make a difference) and I'd choose it for 
really long days in the saddle on less than perfect roads. It was the more 
pleasurable brevet bike, if not the fastest feeling.

The Rambouillet feels more like a road/sport bike, does great under hard 
efforts, with fine handling manners. My similar size '95 Ritchey Logic 
Road, also made by Toyo, is stiffer and has more of a snappy racing feel. 

Happy 4th!

Ed Felker
Washington, DC





On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 3:33:20 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality?

 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b 
 Bleriot?

 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well?


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[RBW] Re: chainrings... middle vs outer question

2015-06-17 Thread dailyrandonneur
I worked through this question on my Bike Friday Pocket Rocket with 451mm 
wheels when I went to big rings. I set up a 36-48-58 set on a 110/74 
crankset, in my case a Suntour XC Pro. Using the Sheldon Brown online gear 
calculator, this gave me a match to my standard bikes setup. 

TA sells (or sold, haven't checked recently) a 36 tooth 74 bcd ring; the 
largest you can fit on that bolt pattern, I understand. I paired it with a 
Shimano SG-X outer 48t, the one one they sold on their 110/74 MTB setups in 
the 90s. The new outer is a Sugino flat 58 tooth ring.

Using bar end shifters, and Shimano 9-speed chain, if all shifts very well 
with a Campagnolo triple front derailleur. I'm using the version they sold 
for their 10-tooth jump 30-40-50 cranksets.

I've found these particular fronts to be really versatile, they seem to 
work a little better under load and over a broad range than Shimano's road 
front triples.

I think any good ramped outer from Shimano, better yet a TA Zephyr, will 
make a good middle ring. It's doing essentially the same job in the middle, 
picking up and dropping the chain to the smaller ring next to it. The 
question will be whether you are satisfied with a flat outer ring. 

Good luck -- 
Ed Felker
Washington, DC



On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 4:27:38 PM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:

 Hi!

 Has anyone used the 46T Origin-8 chainring sold by RBW (or one like it) in 
 the middle position on the RBW-sold Sugino crank (or one like it)? Any 
 comments on how well it works or worked? If you got it to work well 
 enough for you, was there anything non-obvious that you had to do to make 
 that happen?

 So here's the deal: I have three bikes, two Hillbornes and a Bike Friday 
 (406BSD wheels). The Hillbornes have the triple Sugino cranks sold by RBW. 
 The Bike Friday came with a 130BCD triple crank, 52T/42T/30T. I got rid of 
 the 52T chainring because I never used it; higher than I want in general. 
 Replacing the 42T middle chainring with a 44T was an improvement in the 
 overall gearing on the Bike Friday and leads me to want to try a 46T.

 However, as another goal I'd like to have the same Sugino 110BCD crank on 
 all three bikes. My question above arises because I don't see any 
 46T-or-greater 110BCD chainring on the web sold as a middle ring. Some, 
 including the 46T 110BCD Origin-8 chainring sold by RBW, are not described 
 as being either explicitly inner, middle, or outer. I note that RBW's 
 web-site says that its 44T chainring can be used as either a middle or an 
 outer; it does *not* say that for the 46T.

 With respect to a given 110BCD chainring that is sold as a middle vs outer 
 ring for a triple crank, what about the chainring makes it that way 
 (instead of being position-agnostic)?

 In case it matters to potential respondents... the Hillbornes have 7-speed 
 clusters in the back and the Bike Friday has an 8-speed cluster. Also, I'm 
 uninterested in 9-speed unless I'm forced by product availability to go 
 that way. Fortunately I have predicted the demise of less-than-9-speed 
 drivetrains, thus making it very likely that they'll stay around. I wonder 
 if that principle works when predicting one's own demise?

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean
 P.S.
 Just so you know I've considered it... the shifting between the 30T inner 
 and the 44T middle chainring on the current Bike Friday setup works well 
 enough for me. I've literally had zero problems, but I've done it rarely 
 enough that it's a very limited sample size. I suspect the 30T-46T would be 
 good enough for me also, though I do have a 32T 74BCD chainring waiting in 
 the wings, which I presume would have a decent chance of shifting much like 
 the 30T-44T combination. With the overall gearing on the Bike Friday, 
 goodness knows I'd be happy enough with a 36T inner ring if they are 
 available.


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[RBW] Re: chainrings... middle vs outer question

2015-06-17 Thread dailyrandonneur
If you're set on using two rings, you could also just get the Sugino 
XD500-d 34/48 compact double from Harris Cyclery. With 406mm wheels, you 
may find the couple extra teeth on each ring are acceptable.

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 6:59:06 PM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:

 That's the sort of experience I like to hear!

 I'm satisfied with no outer ring at all. So I'm covered there.

 It sounds like I'll be fine with a 32T/46T setup in general, presuming I 
 don't screw something up putting it all together and adjusting the front 
 derailer. I really like the Sugino cranks, so I'll be happy have one on the 
 Bike Friday. It gives me yet another bit of common kit between the Bike 
 Friday and the Hillbornes, sort of a spare part bin. I've already set up 
 the Bike Friday to be like the Hillbornes in several ways: B17 saddle, 
 Bosco-like bars (narrower) with bar-ends-on-thumbies, grip king pedals, 
 schmidt dynamo lighting, nitto F-15, NR-50, and pannier rack... things on 
 the way include love levers, motolites, and the sugino crank. if there were 
 a way to add a double-top-tube I'd probably do it just to finish it off!

 It'll never ride exactly like the Hillbornes. I don't know how I'd fake 
 the extra rotational inertia or narrower tires or controlled-ness (my 
 Friday's stem riser does move about a bit). But it's already close enough 
 to be the second most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. And, unlike the 
 Hillbornes, I can take it on the train in rush hour, put it in my car quite 
 easily, or travel with it on megabus. Now I'll never be without a 
 multi-mile-capable super-comfortable bike!

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean


 On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 5:35:20 PM UTC-5, dailyrandonneur wrote:

 I worked through this question on my Bike Friday Pocket Rocket with 451mm 
 wheels when I went to big rings. I set up a 36-48-58 set on a 110/74 
 crankset, in my case a Suntour XC Pro. Using the Sheldon Brown online gear 
 calculator, this gave me a match to my standard bikes setup. 

 TA sells (or sold, haven't checked recently) a 36 tooth 74 bcd ring; the 
 largest you can fit on that bolt pattern, I understand. I paired it with a 
 Shimano SG-X outer 48t, the one one they sold on their 110/74 MTB setups in 
 the 90s. The new outer is a Sugino flat 58 tooth ring.

 Using bar end shifters, and Shimano 9-speed chain, if all shifts very 
 well with a Campagnolo triple front derailleur. I'm using the version they 
 sold for their 10-tooth jump 30-40-50 cranksets.

 I've found these particular fronts to be really versatile, they seem to 
 work a little better under load and over a broad range than Shimano's road 
 front triples.

 I think any good ramped outer from Shimano, better yet a TA Zephyr, will 
 make a good middle ring. It's doing essentially the same job in the middle, 
 picking up and dropping the chain to the smaller ring next to it. The 
 question will be whether you are satisfied with a flat outer ring. 

 Good luck -- 
 Ed Felker
 Washington, DC



 On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 4:27:38 PM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:

 Hi!

 Has anyone used the 46T Origin-8 chainring sold by RBW (or one like it) 
 in the middle position on the RBW-sold Sugino crank (or one like it)? Any 
 comments on how well it works or worked? If you got it to work well 
 enough for you, was there anything non-obvious that you had to do to make 
 that happen?

 So here's the deal: I have three bikes, two Hillbornes and a Bike Friday 
 (406BSD wheels). The Hillbornes have the triple Sugino cranks sold by RBW. 
 The Bike Friday came with a 130BCD triple crank, 52T/42T/30T. I got rid of 
 the 52T chainring because I never used it; higher than I want in general. 
 Replacing the 42T middle chainring with a 44T was an improvement in the 
 overall gearing on the Bike Friday and leads me to want to try a 46T.

 However, as another goal I'd like to have the same Sugino 110BCD crank 
 on all three bikes. My question above arises because I don't see any 
 46T-or-greater 110BCD chainring on the web sold as a middle ring. Some, 
 including the 46T 110BCD Origin-8 chainring sold by RBW, are not described 
 as being either explicitly inner, middle, or outer. I note that RBW's 
 web-site says that its 44T chainring can be used as either a middle or an 
 outer; it does *not* say that for the 46T.

 With respect to a given 110BCD chainring that is sold as a middle vs 
 outer ring for a triple crank, what about the chainring makes it that way 
 (instead of being position-agnostic)?

 In case it matters to potential respondents... the Hillbornes have 
 7-speed clusters in the back and the Bike Friday has an 8-speed cluster. 
 Also, I'm uninterested in 9-speed unless I'm forced by product availability 
 to go that way. Fortunately I have predicted the demise of 
 less-than-9-speed drivetrains, thus making it very likely that they'll stay 
 around. I wonder if that principle works when predicting one's own demise?

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn

[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-06-03 Thread dailyrandonneur
Alan,

Mary Gersemalina is my wife, and we are well acquainted with the 
BicycleSpace folks, as they are with us and our Riv bikes. They were nice 
enough to do a little video of us, I grabbed my SimpleOne for the shoot. 
http://www.bicyclespacedc.com/our-blog/2014/11/15/ed-and-mary

They are great folks, and we're looking forward to their three new 
locations. I'll mention all this to co-owner Erik Kugler. 

Keith is also doing a great job at Bicycle Pro Shop in appealing to a wide 
range of cyclists. We've enjoyed going in there. 

If either of the shops were up for some Riv bikes, that would be terrific 
to see. 

Ed F. 
Washington, DC

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:35:41 AM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:

 Hi Folks - I cannot be trusted to handle my own checking account 
 responsibly, much less make any claim to business acumen in the cut-throat, 
 bottom-line world of bike sales, but I just looked at Grant's Blug post, 
 dated May 26th:

 * ...we’d also like your help in nominating dealers to maybe sell some 
 Sams, and possibly Chevs and CLEMs later on. We’re too uppity to grovel 
 ourselves, so if you know of a good local shop that’s already familiar with 
 our work (maybe they’ve seen and admired your bike, if you have one of 
 ours)—then contact them, refer them to this BLUG post, and we’ll take it 
 from there. We want five good dealers in the country. Ideally they’d be in 
 big cities with decent populations of riders, but if there’s a good, 
 kindred shop in Turkeyscratch, Arkansas, we’re open to that, too.*

 *Have the dealer contact Will if they are interested : **800 345-3918 *
 *or **will at rivbike.com http://rivbike.com*

 *OK. Much thanks for your help with this. There’s no “finders” fee, but 
 the shop should still let us know who sent ‘em. *
 Given the sense from some of you that Rivendell has historically made a 
 conscious choice for direct sales, and that at least some shops may have 
 found previous prospects of doing business with RBW unattractive, I wonder 
 what it would be like to just take the above at face value, roll up with a 
 coupla bikes or three to Bicycle Space 
 http://www.bicyclespacedc.com/city/ like merchant emissaries of Venice, 
 have a friendly chat, then let Riv take it from there as Grant proposes.

 Bicycle Space sells Pashley, Linus, Handsome, Surly (also Felt, Bianci, 
 Cannonale), but also euro-baskets and crane bells. 

 There is also the well-known blogger Mary Gersemalina of Chasing Mailboxes 
 http://chasingmailboxes.com/about-chasing-mailboxes/, herself a 
 Rivendell Owner, and promoter of all things two-wheeled - please note that 
 her profile pic for her blog features her seated atop a Quickbeam in front 
 of the Capitol. Perhaps she would be enthusiastic.

 The idea of a DC Pop-up sounds sort of cool, urban, and trendy, and 
 perhaps relatively low risk on both sides.

 I have to admit that Grant's post (We are too uppity to grovel 
 ourselves...) doesn't make me exactly want to stick my neck out and pump 
 the brand, but I would be happy to go with a couple of folks on what we 
 might call an S2O (sub 2 hour outing) and show off a couple of bikes, maybe 
 see if Mary is interested in joining?

 Any interest from the Bunch

 On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 10:12:30 AM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:

 What to DC-centric folks think about helping develop a local dealer for 
 Riv Bikes, as requested a bug-post or two ago?

 I love the gang at Proteus Bikes in College Park, and I know that College 
 Park Bicycles has an affinity with Grant/Riv, but somehow I wonder if a 
 place like Bicycle Space - which just recently opened a new shop right 
 smack in downtown DC, might have real potential, by tapping into a well 
 moneyed, bike-commutin' crowd with consumer tastes just precious enough to 
 make the gorgeous lugs and paint on Riv Bikes a beacon of irresistible 
 attraction. Does anyone know the Bicycle Space people? Could we talk to 
 them?

 Either that, or a few of us could quit our day jobs and attempt to open a 
 bike store... I would assume that we would all become filthy stinking rich 
 in short order, right?

 Alan in Silver Spring



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[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-06-02 Thread dailyrandonneur
Someone at a shop in the greater DC area who stocked Riv models in the past 
said Riv effectively wound down their dealer program yeas ago and decided 
to sell direct. The dealer could buy Rivs at no lower price than anyone 
else, this person said, so there was no financial reason to stock them. 

Even when there was wholesale pricing, it was not that great of an 
incentive and Riv wanted them to buy a full size run of a model rather than 
just selected sizing -- this is what I was told, not sure that's completely 
accurate. 

Unless Grant wants to go into business with shops, it's kind of a moot 
discussion. He seems to have made it clear that his current direct sales 
model works for him, his family, the Riv staff and the customers.

I would like to see him do a popup for a few weeks in DC, just to go see 
the current lineup and test ride. 

Ed F. 
Washington, DC


On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 10:12:30 AM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:

 What to DC-centric folks think about helping develop a local dealer for 
 Riv Bikes, as requested a bug-post or two ago?

 I love the gang at Proteus Bikes in College Park, and I know that College 
 Park Bicycles has an affinity with Grant/Riv, but somehow I wonder if a 
 place like Bicycle Space - which just recently opened a new shop right 
 smack in downtown DC, might have real potential, by tapping into a well 
 moneyed, bike-commutin' crowd with consumer tastes just precious enough to 
 make the gorgeous lugs and paint on Riv Bikes a beacon of irresistible 
 attraction. Does anyone know the Bicycle Space people? Could we talk to 
 them?

 Either that, or a few of us could quit our day jobs and attempt to open a 
 bike store... I would assume that we would all become filthy stinking rich 
 in short order, right?

 Alan in Silver Spring


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[RBW] Re: LED Fender Lights: Spanninga vs. PDW Fenderbot

2014-09-24 Thread dailyrandonneur
I have the Spanniga. It is somewhat basic, you're not getting a super deal 
at $15.

We have it on the tandem fender as a spare to back up the Secula Plus 
generator taillight (which is very bright) on our chainstay.  

The Spanniga is OK on dark roads, so-so in city riding. Switch is a little 
wonky. Our first unit wouldn't turn on unless the two halves -- 
battery-holding base, LED/reflector/cover upper -- were aligned just so; 
the second works ok. 

The reviews on the Fenderbot were middling and in the LBS it looked about 
as bright as the Spanniga, though sturdier. I bought a Radbot 1000 which is 
much brighter, but not intended for fender mounting.

Ed F.
Washington, DC 


On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:58:03 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Any feedback on these: 
 http://www.rivbike.com/Spanninga-Fender-Light-p/lt007.htm or these: 
 http://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Fenderbot-Light/dp/B00428J5P2

 How do they compare to a Planet Bike Superflash that is in steady, 
 not-superflashing mode (my only frame of reference)? 

 Battery life real good on them?

 Any other options I am overlooking?

 So many questions...


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[RBW] FS: new Nitto Campee R20 rear rack $95 shipped

2014-08-25 Thread dailyrandonneur
Sold!

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[RBW] FS: new Nitto Campee R20 rear rack $95 shipped

2014-08-24 Thread dailyrandonneur
I have a NItto Mt Campee R20 rear rack for sale. Never installed. Includes 
all hardware and instructions in Japanese. 

It's this one: 
https://www.benscycle.com/p-4570-nitto-mt-campee-r20-rear-rack.aspx?

$95 includes shipping to lower 48. Paypal preferred. Discount if picked up 
in D.C. 

Thanks, 
Ed 
Washington, DC

 

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[RBW] FS: One more VO Model 5 (was FS: three Velo Orange leather saddles)

2014-08-04 Thread dailyrandonneur
The three put up for sale yesterday are sold. I have one more to sell, a 
sprung Model 5 in honey color. A few test rides on this one, with a teeny 
sit bone dent on one side. 

$55 includes shipping Priority Mail. Paypal preferred. 

Photo here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/14636910149/

Thanks for looking!

Ed F.
Washington, DC 

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:09:24 PM UTC-4, dailyrandonneur wrote:

 Time to clean out some saddles. All three of these Velo Orange leather 
 saddles were put on occasional use bikes and are in very good condition. 



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[RBW] FS: three Velo Orange leather saddles

2014-08-03 Thread dailyrandonneur
Time to clean out some saddles. All three of these Velo Orange leather 
saddles were put on occasional use bikes and are in very good condition. 

All include adjusting wrenches, extra lacing and cloth bags as shipped by 
Velo Orange. 

Prices include Priority Mail shipping. Discounts of $20 for purchase of all 
three, $10 for two. Paypal accepted.

Photos here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8193389@N06/sets/72157646156573554/

1. Model 3 touring, honey. Mounted and briefly ridden, no sit bone dents. 
Looks new. $65.

2. Model 3 touring, honey. Light use, small sit bone dents. $55.

3. Model 5 sprung touring, brown. Light use, small sit bone dents. A few 
spots on underside from a puddle splatter. $50. 

Thanks for looking!

Ed F.
Washington, D.C. 

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[RBW] Re: 400k plus

2014-05-23 Thread dailyrandonneur
Tim --

The conventional approach is to ride the brevets in order without trying to 
do too much in between, as long as the gaps are not more than 2-3 weeks. 
It's good to give your legs some time to recover and adapt. Most everybody 
is intimidated by the 400K, I am still after a number of years 
randonneuring. Showing up with rested legs and good sleep the week leading 
into the ride makes a big difference. 

If you were able to ride the 175 miler without major difficulty in similar 
terrain, you can complete a 400K. It may not be comfortable, but you'll get 
there. 

Keep up with your food and drink, don't ride too hard early in the event 
and see if you can group up with other riders for the nighttime hours. 
You'll likely have a low energy point somewhere during the ride, don't 
worry, a good rest stop helps; eat and drink whatever you think will raise 
your energy level and spirits. I've taken a mini-nap of 10 minutes in the 
past which is surprisingly refreshing. 

Nightfall also has a natural energizing effect as your senses perk up to 
deal with the dark, as does the prospect of finishing. 

Hope this helps. 


On Friday, May 23, 2014 8:05:14 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

 I know several of you in the group ride brevets so it's time to pick your 
 brains. I've taken them up again this year. In 2011 i completed a 200k, had 
 a DNF 300k followed by finishing a planned 175 mile ride. I've had no rides 
 over 50-60 miles since until this year, got fat, etc. I decided I needed a 
 goal to help motivate me so I put PBP 2015 on the calendar. I've lost over 
 45 lbs and am loving riding again. I did a 200k a couple of weeks ago and 
 have a 300k next week which I'm nervous about but fairly confident. My 
 question is about beyond that. I'm wondering if I need to progress to the 
 other distances. In other words, should I try 350k before 400 then 500 
 before 600? Or do you think that by the time I've gone 300k that the base 
 is built up enough to sustain the larger jumps in time and distance? Riv 
 content: I'm riding this on my Homer and loving it! I'd like to complete 
 the whole series (200,300,400, 600) this summer so I'll have a good taste 
 for what's in store next year in Paris.

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

2014-01-31 Thread dailyrandonneur
My wife and I ride Rivendell models -- Romulus, Rambouillet, others -- and 
after riding a Cannondale MTB tandem with slicks  drop bars for awhile we 
went to Co-Motion. 

We asked Dwan to replicate our positions on a 57 Romulus in the back and a 
58 Rambouillet in the front and set up the headtube so that I could get my 
captain's handlebars level with the saddle. 

Mission accomplished. The final productt, their 700c wheel Speedster, fit 
as we wanted. We've since then replaced that bike with a 700c Java 
expedition tandem which allows much bigger tires and fenders. 

The only obstacle on both frames has been getting Brooks saddles far enough 
back, but the NItto Wayback post solved that.

I asked Grant at one of his book signings about the Riv tandem project and 
he said it was still on his list, but he had no prediction about when.

Ed F. 
Washington, DC

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:39:50 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife?

 I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord 
 willing.

 They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in.

 I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and 
 just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do 
 that on a tandem.

 Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are 
 lighter materials in order for a frame of that size?

 Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it.



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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Gets Fatter - a set on Flickr

2014-01-20 Thread dailyrandonneur
Good choice. I've only run Pasela TG 700 x 35 on my SimpleOne and enjoyed 
the ride. I use the same tires on my Atlantis. 

I grew to like the Pasela and Pasela TG when it could be bought cheaper 
than these days. Those and the Schwalbe Marathon Racer fit the bill for me 
in the budget 700c 32-35mm tire range.

Ed 
Washington DC 


On Monday, January 20, 2014 12:25:36 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:

 Inspired by the ride of the 42mm Grand Bois Hetres on my Bleriot, I spent 
 a couple of hours today changing out the tires on my Quickbeam from the 
 700x28 size I've been using forever to a set of 700x35s (Paselas, purchased 
 from another member of this list).

 Changing the tires was no big deal. The bulk of the time was spent 
 adjusting the fenders to fit around the fatter rubber. That involved, among 
 other things, using a Dremel to cut off the protruding end of the daruma 
 bolt that holds the front fender onto the fork crown. Yes, the 35s needed 
 every millimeter of clearance I could get (the rear wheel wouldn't even 
 spin when I first put it in, due to a lack of clearance, even though the 
 28s had gobs of room).

 Results are in the photos here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639957181314/

 I haven't had a chance to ride it yet, other that a spin up and down the 
 block, but from an appearance standpoint alone it was worth it. The fatter 
 tires certainly fill out the fenders much better.

 Ride report once I've had a chance to get it on the road.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?

2014-01-08 Thread dailyrandonneur
I had a C17 loaner out on my SimpleOne last month and wrote about it. It 
feels pretty similar to a B17 to me. 

http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/brooks-cambium-c17-saddle-a-real-brooks/

Ed 
Washington, DC

On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:39:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey group,  just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the 
 Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. 
   I know that its a little narrower(~10mm),  but just wanted to get an idea 
 of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks   -Mike


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[RBW] Re: Bike Travel - Share your thoughts

2014-01-02 Thread dailyrandonneur
I've traveled with singles and tandems, both full size and SS. Every 
airline is different as another responder mentioned, and they change their 
policies from time to time, so nothing is completely static. 

One relative constant has been allowable size for checked luggage, 62 
linear inches. Outside that dimension you typically pay oversize fees even 
if you don't exceed the maxiumum weight limit. 

For the occasional trip, there is no doubt that paying the oversize fee and 
dragging around a full-size bike box is cheaper. I liked the Crateworks 
corrugated plastic box, it is lighter than a hard case but tougher than 
cardboard, folds up for storage and can be re-used. 

After a few trips, however, you could end up pay as much in fees as buying 
couplers and the SS case. The advantages of SS, in terms of reduced 
packing hassle and ease of movement during your trip, are of value to me 
even if I never fully pay off through travel. This is especially true with 
a tandem, where the trouble of lugging a huge box and paying big fees at 
the counter isn't my idea of fun travel. 

If you know you are going to travel with a frameset and are getting it 
repainted anyway, it's the right time to consider couplers. I recommend 
them. 

Ed
Washington, DC



On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:16:04 AM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 Hey Y'alls,
  
 I'm starting to think about air travel with a bike, with the first 
 possible destination of the Bay Area this upcoming summer (hoping to 
 repatriate the Ram Dawg, at least for a visit).
  
 Do any of you have experience with bike boxes or bike bags, on an airline? 
 TSC/ATA cases, fabric bags, cardboard bike boxes even?
  
 At first, I entertained the idea of installing SS couplers on the Ram (it 
 needs new paint anyways) but together, the retrofit would cost large $$. So 
 now I'm thinking about just flying with it, as is. The Ram is a 66cm, so 
 finding a box that would accommodate its sprawl would be one of the chief 
 concerns. 
  
 Any good experiences? Things to avoid? Anything to report with 
 various airlines' policies and costs, as well?
  
 Thanks!
  
 Kieran in Toronto


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[RBW] Re: Bike Travel - Share your thoughts

2014-01-02 Thread dailyrandonneur
I'm interested in this limit as well. My bikes have 58/59cm top tubes. Our 
custom size Java 29er tandem is about as long as Co-Motion could make and 
still get into a case in three pieces, with the longest top tube section 
62cm. 

Let us know if you take it up with your installer. 

Ed

On Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:26:18 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 I can certainly see how it would be more convenient to schlep around. But 
 I am a little concerned about this size frame fitting into the SS box. I 
 haven't done any extensive reading or first hand trying, but it looks like 
 it might be a no-go.
  
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Re: [RBW] Bike Travel - Share your thoughts

2014-01-02 Thread dailyrandonneur
Eric, what does Dahon say about putting the Rock Hound in the Samsonite 
case Bike Friday sells? 
http://store.bikefriday.com/product_info.php?cPath=46products_id=10966

We have these cases from our Friday purchases and use one of them when we 
travel with the tandem. 

The Samsonite is more rectangular which allows us to drop in the front 
section of our tandem without removing the tall fork. We spread the tandem 
frame over three cases, this one and two SS cases (which get one wheel 
each) and stuff them with clothes that would take up our third suitcase. 

Ed 
Washington, DC



On Thursday, January 2, 2014 2:14:42 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:

 Great topic. I’ve had good and bad experiences traveling with bikes, 
 mostly associated with being charged for putting a bike on a plane.

 I’ve traveled with a bike three ways: 

 1) With a folding and disassembled Dahon Speed Pro that fits (with some 
 practice) in a standard-sized suitcase. Never a problem, but it’s a hassle 
 to get it in and out of the case. I have never been charged for putting 
 this on a plane.

 2) With a slightly larger folding Dahon Smooth Hound that fits easily into 
 a case that’s a few inches over the maximum size for “oversized luggage” 
 (but below the 50-pound weight limit that most airlines use). In some 
 cases, the baggage handlers or ticket counter staff take the case (which 
 looks like a really big suitcase—no bicycle pictures on it) and put it on 
 the conveyor. In others, the person accepting baggage gets out the tape 
 measure and I know I’m about to be charged for oversized baggage. On a 
 recent trip from Sacramento to Portland, this bike flew free on the way up, 
 and I paid $75 on the way back. In my experience, it all comes down to how 
 much of a stickler the person at the counter is. The guys accepting baggage 
 outside the terminal seem to care less about a few inches of excess size, 
 but that’s not a sure thing.

 3) With a regular bike inside an Iron Case. I’ve flown around the US and 
 to France twice this way without any problems. Downside is of course the 
 cost—no getting a bike case on the plane without paying—and the need to 
 have ground transport at the other end with the capacity for something this 
 large. The airline I usually use (Southwest) now charges $75 per leg, which 
 adds $150 to each trip. My personal calculation, based on the number of 
 times I fly each year, doesn’t make it pencil out to get an SS-coupled 
 frame.

 I’ve been hunting around my local thrift store for a large, used suitcase 
 that I could squeeze the Dahon Smooth Hound into. That would solve many of 
 my problems—it’s a good bike that rides almost as well as a standard bike, 
 and if I could fly with it for free it would be worth it.

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 On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hey Y'alls,
  
 I'm starting to think about air travel with a bike, with the first 
 possible destination of the Bay Area this upcoming summer (hoping to 
 repatriate the Ram Dawg, at least for a visit).
  
 Do any of you have experience with bike boxes or bike bags, on an airline? 
 TSC/ATA cases, fabric bags, cardboard bike boxes even?
  
 At first, I entertained the idea of installing SS couplers on the Ram (it 
 needs new paint anyways) but together, the retrofit would cost large $$. So 
 now I'm thinking about just flying with it, as is. The Ram is a 66cm, so 
 finding a box that would accommodate its sprawl would be one of the chief 
 concerns. 
  
 Any good experiences? Things to avoid? Anything to report with 
 various airlines' policies and costs, as well?
  
 Thanks!
  
 Kieran in Toronto

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[RBW] Re: Jtek Shiftmate, your experiences

2013-10-29 Thread dailyrandonneur
We have had zero problems with Shiftmate pulleys. Both instances using 
Campy 9-speed Ergo shifters with Shimano long-cage derailleurs and 
cassettes. 

I'd test our your current setup first without the Shiftmate. Campy and 
Shimano 9-speed cassette spacing is quite close. See the late great Sheldon 
Brown's cassette spacing page for exact spec. 

If your Campy rear derailleur clears the 32-tooth cog, you may be able to 
tune shifting to your satisfaction. 

I use 9-speed Ergo shifters and Veloce long cage derailleur with a 12-27 9 
speed Shimano cassette on my Ritchey Road Logic without a Shiftmate. The 
shifting was very good to start but got better in the small cogs when I 
swapped the first loose spacer in the Shimano cassette for a Campy 9-speed 
cassette spacer. I also use a 9-speed Shimano chain which is supposed to be 
slightly narrower than Campy or SRAM. 

If the Chorus derailleur doesn't clear the cog, then you have your answer 
-- get the No. 4 and use a Shimano long derailleur. Upside will be that you 
can then use a 34-tooth largest cog cassette. 

Ed Felker
Washington, DC




On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:33:45 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I searched the past posts on the web interface of this group for topics 
 related to the Shiftmate.

 Although I found some posts about the shiftmate within threads, the usual 
 responses within the threads were something along the lines of Oh I have 
 xyz setup on my bike with the shiftmate and it works great.  There wasn't 
 a thread specific to the Shiftmate.

 So I was thinking we could have a thread dedicated specifically to the 
 Shiftmate.

 After mulling over the responses from the 650b thread I started about 
 converting my custom Rivendell, I think the simplest way of doing it, with 
 the least amount of parts changes, is to get a Shiftmate.  I currently have 
 a full 9 speed Campy setup with Campy bar-ends that I like.  I can get a 
 Shimano 650b rear wheel and Shimano 9 speed 12-32 cassette for around 
 $130.  Then put the Shiftmate on there and should be good to go without 
 further changes.

 At least- if the hype about the Shiftmate is to be believed.

 What are your experiences with it?  Which model are you using with what 
 drivetrain?  How hard is it to set up?  Is it set-it-and-forget-it, or does 
 it require constant fiddling?  How about the shift quality?

 I have a long cage silver Chorus derailer on my Riv.  If I assume it can 
 handle the 32T cog and leave it in place, I need a model 1 according to the 
 Jtek site.  But if there are problems with the Chorus derailer and I switch 
 to a Shimano derailer rated for 32T, then I would need a model 4 according 
 to the Jtek site.  I certainly don't want to have to buy it twice.

 Anyway, any input is appreciated.

 -Jim


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Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

2013-07-02 Thread dailyrandonneur
On our Brooks Flyer saddles (mine and hers) I spray a little Boeshield at 
the top and bottom of the spring where it is bolted to the rails, and a 
little bit on the nose bolt. 

I also apply a thin layer of grease to the rails before tighting down the 
seat post clamp. Pretty much everywhere metal meets metal. One of those 
points is usually the culprit. 

Ed F
Washington DC



On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:13:15 PM UTC-4, shawn wrote:

 Anybody have any recommendations on dealing with the creak in the sprung 
 saddle? This is driving my wife crazy. I tried boeshield, no luck.

 On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 Get a sprung brooks saddle, it creaks all the time and covers up any 
 other creaks you might be hearing. Problem solved. :)


 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Phil Brown philc...@gmail.com wrote:

 What you think are BB creaks are many times seat post creaks. If it is 
 from the BB teflon tape may cure it.
 Phil Brown


 On Monday, July 1, 2013 11:25:35 AM UTC-7, Mojo wrote:

 So you guys are probably better at this. But just in case: 
 When your bottom bracket area starts creaking with each pedal stroke, 
 before you tighten the chainring bolts, before you tighten the crankarm 
 bolts, before you pull your crankarms and reinstall, before you pull the 
 crankarms again and replace the bottom bracket cartridge... try tightening 
 down the pedals. It might save you an hour or your precious time.

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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

2013-06-05 Thread dailyrandonneur
Mine arrived. Love them. I posted out them to our blog The Daily 
Randonneur. 

http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/association-of-caffeinated-wheelmen-button-and-patch/

Thanks for doing this!

Ed Felker
Washington, DC

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:30:30 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 OK...it took me a bit to learn the ropes of setting up and running a 
 store...but I think it's a go.

 Some additional items have been added and a concept tee if interest is 
 there.

 I may tweak some things once I get the feel but I would love to get 
 feedback too.

 This will be a first for this stay home parent, cyclist, artist, coffee 
 drankernow online purveyor.

 Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen STOREhttp://bradclick.bigcartel.com/
  


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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread dailyrandonneur
I looked at the tester registration and it seems to me they are offering 
the unlikely prospect of getting a saddle in return for a lot of my 
personal data -- name, address, email, weight, etc. And I have to write a 
testimonial that I expect they'll use for marketing purposes. 

They also didn't promise one would be asked to test a saddle from what I 
can tell -- just Brooks products. I'd expect the real payoff is mail and 
email from them. There is the 10 percent discount in their store for a 
year. 

There also seems to be a strong interest in why we are not buying their 
bags and what we'd pay for them. I see from their new lineup they are 
offering panniers made by Ortlieb. 


Ed
Washington, DC





On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:03:49 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 http://www.brooksengland.com/
  
 Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle.
 The Cambium.
 You can register to be a tester.


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[RBW] Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?

2013-03-15 Thread dailyrandonneur
Another option is the Nitto R-10 mini rear rack. It has been a really good 
setup for us on a couple of bikes, one in particular without rack mounts. Bens 
Cycle in Milwaukee has them. 

Ed 
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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-22 Thread dailyrandonneur
Owen --

We've been very happy with two discs for the riding we do in the east, 
which are mostly steep  relatively short downhills. In the west I could 
see using a drum on long multi-mile descents, especially when loaded. In 
Colorado I had to scrub speed periodically which works fine, but with a 
drum one could engage it and just ride. 

That said I rode tandem with cantis in the past and would not go back, 
given the power of discs in wet conditions. Our previous Speedster was set 
up to take discs, drum and cantis, but we never installed anything but 
disks. 

The handling of our Java is only slightly slower than our Speedster. Still 
more responsive than our Cannondale MTB tandem. 

Dwan told me they worked to make the Java handle similar to the Speedster 
when using comparable size tires. They design with low bottom brackets 
which helps. We have not used tires bigger than 700x 32 yet so can't say 
how bigger tires might affect handling. I asked for it to be a little more 
stable on slow uphills than our Speedster and Dwan achieved that. 

Wheels -- we haven't had an issue with 700c wheels in SS cases, with tires 
deflated. 

Ed 





On Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:54:19 PM UTC-5, Salween wrote:

 Did decide on a custom, coupled Java frame. Couple of questions for Ed. 
 1) I saw in your Speedster farewell 
 poshttp://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/we-bid-farewell-to-our-tandem-companion-the-co-motion-speedster/t
  
 that you decided to forgo canti brake studs on the Java. So you guys have 
 been pretty happy with just the two discs, even for touring?  Considering 
 the same for the first time, but the Arai sure has been a trusted friend 
 when needed.  
 2) How do you find the handling given that the Java's front geometry is 
 quite a bit different from Co-Motion's other tandems--and as Jay noted 
 possibly akin to 32mm tires on a Santana?

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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread dailyrandonneur
We like Pasela Tourguard 700 x 32s for most of our tandeming. Our old 
Co-Motion Speedster from 2006 accepted those tires with fenders but not 
35s. 

To run bigger tires we recently upgraded to modified Co-Motion Java. They 
changed it a couple of years ago from a 26/559 wheel model to 700c/29er.

Rides great with the same 700 x 32s, but can take up to 700 x 50mm+ if we 
wish.  Co-Motion bills the Java as a touring/offroad tandem.

We added a lateral tube to stiffen the frame some more, though Dwan said 
the Java is already stiffer than the Speedster.  The ride is still pretty 
nice, and it doesn't flex as much when we stand up. 

Ed 
Washington, DC


On Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:53:35 AM UTC-5, Salween wrote:

 Don't know if Grant and Co. will ever produce a tandem, so in the meantime 
 will be getting one elsewhere. 

 Seems like most tandems out there follow the skinny tire theme, with the 
 exception of R+E in Seattle and Bilenky in Philadelphia, and even their 
 tire clearances don't seem to push as far north as nearly all Riv singles. 
 So wondering if there are any tandem riders here and what tire widths they 
 prefer. On my Sam I ride 33/35mm tires often on marginal roads. So 
 wondering what that might translate to on a 700c tandem?


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[RBW] Re: Any Riv tandem riders--tire width?

2013-02-07 Thread dailyrandonneur
If one is on a timetable, Co-Motion is turning tandems around relatively 
quickly.  With a number of custom modifications and couplers, ours got to 
us in about 6 weeks after design approval. 

We have friends who are getting a 650b custom tandem for use with Hetres 
from Co-Motion, also expected in weeks. 

We have other friends who have waited more than a year on their 650b 
Bilenky tandem with no progress yet. That's not incredibly long for a 
custom shop with high demand, but it's something to keep in mind. 

Ed 
Washington, DC


On Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:07:31 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote:

 Speaking of Bilenky, we tested one of their tandems. It was equipped with 
 42 mm Grand Bois Hetre tires. We used it in a 300 km brevet, and set a 
 course record for that (hilly) course on it. I rode Paris-Brest-Paris on a 
 1946 René Herse tandem with 38 mm tires, but that was only because 42s 
 weren't available then...

 Photo of the Bilenky is here: http://www.bikequarterly.com/test_bikes.html

 And the Herse tandem is here: 
 http://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/pbpcornervillagemed.jpg

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

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[RBW] Re: 700 x 32 tire recommendation, please...

2013-01-29 Thread dailyrandonneur
Pasela TGs. Multiple bikes including thousands of annual tandem miles. We 
go through tires faster on the tandem than a single bike and the price is 
right for the ride quality and toughness. 

I've been happy with the toughness of non-TG Paselas on single bikes -- 
knowing a flat is somewhat more likely. They ride nicely once I figured out 
the best pressure for the particular load on the bike.  

Ed 
Washington, DC

On Monday, January 28, 2013 6:41:46 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 What do you use with puncture protection?


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[RBW] Re: Advice on Camelbacks

2012-05-31 Thread dailyrandonneur
I've been using various Camelbaks for my randonneur and century rides
for more than a decade, year-round.

I like not running out of water and not having to drink from bottles,
especially during rainy and very hot rides.

I add ice if the temperature is over 90 degrees and always use a tube
insulator. The cold water really helps in hot conditions and can last
for two hours or more. In winter, the water does not freeze if I tuck
the tube into my jacket.

My favorites have been the light-duty 70-oz. models. Currently I'm
using the Rogue. If it has a waist strap, it's probably too big.

I only use water and save sports drinks for my bottles. Draining the
bladder and wiping out with a small towel, and removing the
mouthpiece, keeps the mold away.

You'll know soon enough if you don't like the feel on your back. I
never notice it. The nicer Camelbaks have ventilated backs if you want
more airflow.

If in doubt, buy from REI and take advantage of their return policy.

Ed






On May 31, 3:10 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I made the mistake of setting out just now with just one 28 oz water
 bottle (my Joe has only one set of braze ons -- a big regret -- and I
 forgot the nifty Minoura clamp-on cage mount thingie) and by the
 halfway point (only 22 m rt) I was wishing I had twice as much water.
 So, a few questions about Camelbacks or whatever they are called. I've
 never used one.

 My main concerns are, (1) do they feel icky (that's a technical term)
 on your back on a hot day?

 2). Do they mold up? How do you clean them to prevent mold?

 3) What brand and model do y'all recommend, if any?

 Gnashbar has several on sale (tho' they're damn'd expensive compared
 to water bottles). Is the cheapest, at $40, the Camelback Fairfax
 fer God's sake, 50 oz, decent? Or the (gad) Blowfish 70 oz at $60? I
 can't see carrying more than half a gallon on my back.

 Or am I just better off putting a second bottle in my rear pocket?

 --
 Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you.

 Flannery O'Connor

 -
 Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA
 For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, 
 ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html
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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-10 Thread dailyrandonneur
I purchased the SimpleOne after hearing my wife rave for years about
the ride of her Quickbeam. She was right. The SimpleOne is
tremendously fun to ride and has that Riv feel that I like so much in
my Atlantis and Rambouillet.

It replaced a Kogswell singlespeed that was half the cost, and was
fine, but not the blast that I get from the SimpleOne.

I can see how it would be hard to sell to someone who is not an
enthusiast. We talk regularly to people who are looking to buy a new
bike and they are all fascinated with Surly right now, but even those
seem pricey to them. They have to get past the bargain basement stuff
on Craigslist, then move past Ebay, then Linus, etc. before they even
consider a Surly. You'd be amazed at how many Linus singlespeeds are
being pedaled around D.C. right now.

There seems to be the prevailing attitude that singlespeeds should be
cheap. Maybe it's the notion that the smart person buys a cheap beater
frame and converts it to single speed or fixed gear, and that you're
crazy to pay Rivendell prices for a new frameset. I don't even try to
convince anyone of the value of the SimpleOne anymore -- it  is way,
way out of most peoples' price expectations. The tough economy is
another factor that I think has contributed to the popularity of Linus
and Surly, though they've raised prices as well.

All said, I have to hand it to Grant to even bring the QB and SO to
market. It's a brave act and one I'm grateful for.

Ed Felker
Washington, DC




On Mar 25, 3:27 pm, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote:
 After only a week of riding my SimpleOne, I find it is fast becoming my
 favorite bike. I cannot pin down what quality it has that gives me such a
 joy to ride. I own a Rambouillet and a Surly LHT and it would be easy to
 make the argument that either one of those is way more practical for my
 purposes than the SimpleOne. I do love both of those bikes and would not
 easily give them up, but the SimpleOne has become my new best friend. I am
 grateful that I bought one before they disappeared.

 David Spranger

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-21 Thread dailyrandonneur
Campy sold a 30-40-50 chainring option on their non-Record/Chorus triple 
cranksets. I like those cranks too, despite the 135 BCD and requirement to 
use a Campy-compatible square taper bottom bracket. Tough chainrings in the 
Centaur/Racing T level. 

Unfortunately Campy turned fully toward the racing/carbon market around 
2009, but there's lots of older stuff around and Campy has the Comp triple 
group in their lineup with that chainring combo if you want to buy new.

Ed



On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:45:32 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 15:36 -0700
  
  I really like their triple front derailleurs with all non-STI setups. 
  

 Let me echo this.  The Campagnolo Racing T front derailleur is the best
 thing I've ever used on 24/36/46 and 26/36/48 compact triples shifted
 with Shimano bar end shifters.  It continues to amaze me, because
 Campagnolo has never had the slightest interest in this sort of gearing;
 but the derailleurs are simply fantastic.



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