[RBW] Re: PSA: Bleriot on Seattle Craigslist 61cm

[eflayer]

those were lookers.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 12:37:20 PM UTC-7, JAS wrote:
>
> Hi again, 
>
> There's a 61cm Bleriot on the Seattle Craigslist with 650b wheels, $2400.  
> (I have no relation to the seller.)
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/vashon-rivendell-bleriot/7129859410.html
>   
>
> --Joyce
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Relevate Feed Bag handlebar bag

[eflayer]

So I got the Relevate Mountain Feedbag. A very nicely made item. My Olympus 
EM-10 III with pancake kit lens slides in and out vertically and easily. I 
thought my knee might hit it when pedaling out of the saddle but that does 
not happen. I did have one issue. I ride big bikes with tall headtubes and 
fork steerers so the bottom strap meant to go under the fork crown or under 
the downtube would not reach down and around. I emailed Revelate and they 
made me a custom extension strap for a few bucks. I could ride with one bag 
on each side of the stem and keep a long lens in the other one.

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 5:50:20 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> wondering if one of our listeners might have one in the parts bin?
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2016 Cheviot 60cm Orange

[eflayer]

photos mediocre on my computer.

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:30:48 AM UTC-7, Kiley Demond wrote:
>
> Frame is in very good condition. Only blemish is a chip from a car bike 
> rack. Frame sale includes fork and bottom bracket. Also for sale are the 
> components listed below which will be sold individually *after the sale 
> of the frame* as frame buyer has first right of refusal. 
>
> $850 frame only. $900 with the components listed below. Shipping within 
> the continental U.S. capped at $50 (I pay anything over that). Frame is 
> located in Prescott, AZ so there is a possiblity of meeting along 
> interstate 40 or 17 in AZ.
>
> Shifters IRD Silver ratchet thumb shifters
> Brakes Tektro 559 long reach
> Derailleurs Shimano M591 (rear), Shimano Claris (front)
> 2 x 9, 11-32t with chain. Note: guard has crimp that needs to be hammered 
> out
> Sugino XD2 WIDE/LOW double 175
>
> *Please PM me with all questions and comments.*
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Relevate Feed Bag handlebar bag

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Relevate seems hard to beat:
http://bikepacker.com/revelate-designs-mountain-feedbag/

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 5:50:20 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> wondering if one of our listeners might have one in the parts bin?
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Relevate Feed Bag handlebar bag

[eflayer]

I just saw the Jandd one today and it looks pretty close...and more 
affordable. My intention is for an on-bike camera bag and I think the 
Relevate one-handed opening and closing feature may be the x factor for me.

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> wondering if one of our listeners might have one in the parts bin?
>

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[RBW] WTB: Relevate Feed Bag handlebar bag

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wondering if one of our listeners might have one in the parts bin?

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[RBW] Re: Where is Douglas Brooks?

[eflayer]

he was my guru and coach and turned me into a bike buying fanatic. that 
started 18 years ago on the Serotta Forum that turned into the Paceline 
Forum. all of my bikes are as big and tall as is possible for me not to 
hurt my privates on the top tube. grant peterson and douglas brooks made me 
do it. 54 bike tries in 18 years! now own the final 3...hopefully until i 
get one of these:

https://www.orbea.com/us-en/brands/gain-road/



On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 8:56:46 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> His name keeps popping in my head. He used to have so many Rivs that I 
> think he's the one Grant told, "You don't need to buy another one." Anybody 
> know?
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA. 
>

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[RBW] Re: N+4?

[eflayer]

i can't ride more than 3 bikes at the same time, so my herd is limited to 
three. one steel, one titanium, one carbon.

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 7:00:47 AM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote:
>
> As someone wisely pointed out on this group, if you see a Riv frame you 
> like, it's best to buy it when it's offered. On that basis, I just ordered 
> a New Atlantis, a.k.a. MIT Atlantis, a.k.a. LWB Atlantis. It's a 59cm, 
> meaning 700C with a truss. The joke is that I already have three other 
> builds queued up (an Ocean Air Rambler 700C, a Sam Hilborne, and an old 
> Nobilette go-fast); I've done a really good job of not getting to these, 
> due to a range of distractions, but have full build kits for the Rambler 
> and Hillborne, and need to spend some quality time in the basement, putting 
> them together. Given that it's also prime riding season, what this really 
> means is that I need some weather foul enough to make me prefer wrenching 
> to riding.
>
> So why, when I already have builds for three more very likable bicycles 
> queued up, on top of five bikes already in the stable that give me real 
> satisfaction to ride, would I go and order another frameset? Rocks in my 
> head? Poor impulse control? Probably. But it falls out like this, I think: 
> I've got a soft spot in my head for touring bikes, and already own two; 
> I've got another soft spot in my head for Compass tires, and was an early 
> adopter of Barlows, RTPs, and Snoqs, all Extralights; none of my current 
> bikes would accommodate the Antelope Pass, I've wanted an Atlantis for 
> years, and the Riv long chainstays experiment is intriguing; I have also 
> admired the old ANT truss bikes, and missed the window for those. So, 
> godnose when I'll get it built, but I've taken the plunge...
>
> ... and when they are all built, what on earth am I going to do with 9 
> bikes? My bicycle hobby is turning into one of those "if present trends 
> continue" jokes... 
>
> rod
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: S coupled Rivendell?

[eflayer]

why would you want to cut up, couple, and throw a gorgeous lugged Riv in a 
travel suitcase?

Doug Curtlo does custom coupled steel with single color powder at a great 
price. tigged or filleted with powder makes more sense for the utility of a 
travel bike.

On Monday, February 26, 2018 at 5:06:15 PM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> I am not claiming it to be a reasonable, recommended, or even worthwhile 
> choice, not even, but I have become curious...
>
> Has anyone had their Riv frame retrofitted with S couplers before taking 
> delivery, the same kind of scenario as someone having a frame repainted 
> before delivery?  I am curious if Rivendell has someone they work with on 
> such things and if anyone has had that done.  Certainly shipping the frame 
> off to Bilenky or someone would be an option but adds even more cost to 
> something already expensive.
>
> Anyway, just curious if anyone had gone that route directly through 
> Rivendell.  I might call them just to see but I know too they are busy, way 
> too busy for hypothetical, somewhat crazy, probably not going to happen, 
> questions.
>
> All help appreciated,
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Informal poll: Sam Hillborne sizing, 6' tall about an 85PBH?

[eflayer]

How long do you think your stem will be on a 56? Just curious.

On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 11:38:19 PM UTC-8, John W wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm reaching out for some input regarding current Sam Hillbornes.
>
> I'm 6' tall with an 85PBH (say, 86.25 PBH with shoes.) Saddle height 
> ~75cm, a Brooks B17 which runs about 6cm tall.
>
> Riv recommends a size 55 frame, but I know I could ride a 58. I'll ride on 
> pavement and trails. Less so, gnarly track. And I'll set up drop bars about 
> 1cm lower than my saddle. 
>
> My concerns are:
>
> — will I have enough exposed stem above the headset and cable hanger in 
> front?
> — will the bike handle oddly with just ~2cm of exposed stem?
> — am I setting myself up for the inability to use taller upright bars in 
> the future?
>
> I cribbed this photo from a fellow with a shorter saddle height than me:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/4354827488/in/pool-hillborne/
>
> The 55 is the safe bet, while the 58 looks doable. 
>
> I'm cautious of getting a bike that's too small for me. Generally 
> speaking, I'm a 56cm on Surly road frames and I don't feel stretched out on 
> them.
>
> What say you? 55 or 58?
>
> Separately, looking at the geo charts on Riv's site, the Stack and Reach 
> measurements on the Sam Hillbornes look off to me, but perhaps I'm not 
> correctly parsing the effect of the 71.5 STA.
>
> Apologies for the naval gazing email. Any input would be appreciated.
>
> John in NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: Informal poll: Sam Hillborne sizing, 6' tall about an 85PBH?

[eflayer]

I apologize if my posting was confusing. Not sure what the current Sam geo 
actually is since it is not easily found on the Riv website.

On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 11:38:19 PM UTC-8, John W wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm reaching out for some input regarding current Sam Hillbornes.
>
> I'm 6' tall with an 85PBH (say, 86.25 PBH with shoes.) Saddle height 
> ~75cm, a Brooks B17 which runs about 6cm tall.
>
> Riv recommends a size 55 frame, but I know I could ride a 58. I'll ride on 
> pavement and trails. Less so, gnarly track. And I'll set up drop bars about 
> 1cm lower than my saddle. 
>
> My concerns are:
>
> — will I have enough exposed stem above the headset and cable hanger in 
> front?
> — will the bike handle oddly with just ~2cm of exposed stem?
> — am I setting myself up for the inability to use taller upright bars in 
> the future?
>
> I cribbed this photo from a fellow with a shorter saddle height than me:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/4354827488/in/pool-hillborne/
>
> The 55 is the safe bet, while the 58 looks doable. 
>
> I'm cautious of getting a bike that's too small for me. Generally 
> speaking, I'm a 56cm on Surly road frames and I don't feel stretched out on 
> them.
>
> What say you? 55 or 58?
>
> Separately, looking at the geo charts on Riv's site, the Stack and Reach 
> measurements on the Sam Hillbornes look off to me, but perhaps I'm not 
> correctly parsing the effect of the 71.5 STA.
>
> Apologies for the naval gazing email. Any input would be appreciated.
>
> John in NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: Informal poll: Sam Hillborne sizing, 6' tall about an 85PBH?

[eflayer]

I am 5'11 and I ride the biggest bikes of any one my height that I know. I 
think my body proportions are not really abnormal in any way. I can ride a 
59 or 60 top tube and still have about an 110 mm stem. I have never ridden 
anything with a 61 top tube as in a 60 Sam. I prefer as much headtube as I 
can get to get the bars even or a bit higher than my saddle and to avoid 
upjutting stems. At 6' you may have longer arms and more top tube may be 
just right for you.

On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 11:38:19 PM UTC-8, John W wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm reaching out for some input regarding current Sam Hillbornes.
>
> I'm 6' tall with an 85PBH (say, 86.25 PBH with shoes.) Saddle height 
> ~75cm, a Brooks B17 which runs about 6cm tall.
>
> Riv recommends a size 55 frame, but I know I could ride a 58. I'll ride on 
> pavement and trails. Less so, gnarly track. And I'll set up drop bars about 
> 1cm lower than my saddle. 
>
> My concerns are:
>
> — will I have enough exposed stem above the headset and cable hanger in 
> front?
> — will the bike handle oddly with just ~2cm of exposed stem?
> — am I setting myself up for the inability to use taller upright bars in 
> the future?
>
> I cribbed this photo from a fellow with a shorter saddle height than me:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/4354827488/in/pool-hillborne/
>
> The 55 is the safe bet, while the 58 looks doable. 
>
> I'm cautious of getting a bike that's too small for me. Generally 
> speaking, I'm a 56cm on Surly road frames and I don't feel stretched out on 
> them.
>
> What say you? 55 or 58?
>
> Separately, looking at the geo charts on Riv's site, the Stack and Reach 
> measurements on the Sam Hillbornes look off to me, but perhaps I'm not 
> correctly parsing the effect of the 71.5 STA.
>
> Apologies for the naval gazing email. Any input would be appreciated.
>
> John in NYC
>

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[RBW] Re: Light but strong wheels for a Sam or ???

[eflayer]

These are nice. 23mm rims, decent hubs, not heavy:

http://www.bikemania.biz/velocity-a23-road-wheelset.html

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:34:33 AM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Anything I know about rims is probably rooted too far in the past to be 
> useful so I am curious about what people are doing and using.
>
> If one were to build up a relatively light and fast wheel set, rim brake, 
> 700c, for 700x30-47mm tires, ~195-200lb rider with maybe 10-12 pounds of 
> gear, something tough enough for unpaved trails and imperfect roads but not 
> necessarily singletrack...
>
> What rims/hubs/build specs (28 vs 32 vs 36h?, 2x/3x lacing?) would you use 
> or have used with success?  Just curious as the suggestion has come up a 
> lot (for lighter wheels) and my knowledge is limited as to what is now out 
> there, especially for rim-brake wheels.  I know too that narrower rims can 
> be used for wider tires but it would still be great to be within 
> recommended widths, at least close.
>
> Any help appreciated - and it might be useful to others as well.
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL 
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam in Autumn Colors

[eflayer]

Just in case you don't know, Todson, the parent company of Topeak makes a 
behind the water bottle cage mount for that pump. Not sure why it is not 
included, but it works really well. If you call or email, it may actually 
be available:

https://www.todson.com/collections/topeak/products/wb-bracket-for-rd-morph-peak-dx-mt-rock-harp-mini-tpd

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 9:41:23 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> Cleaning out some pics and found these I took a month or so ago of my 
> orange Sam amid the leaves of Fall. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9kfJxuf3sXyDyBoA3
>
> I had just finished a neighborhood ride, and after dismounting, was struck 
> by how well the colors the bike and its Acorn Tall Rando & Roll bags, were 
> all complimented by the leaves on the ground!  I know it's not a 
> drive-side, pedals in attack position, low aperture 'creation' ... rather 
> just an in-the-moment scene I thought I'd share with this great group.
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: "Winter" clothing help

[eflayer]

wool is fine until it gets wet...and then it become wet wool. it may still 
have its thermal properties but it still feels wet to me. i have found 
synthetics to equal in warming and way better in letting the wet out.
granted wool avoids stink way better than synthetics but you can wash 
synthetics without paying any attention.

i have gone full circle from having a completer winter wardrobe of wool to 
now have the same in synthetic. to each their own.

On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 10:02:53 AM UTC-8, Fred Craven wrote:
>
> It's fast approaching winter I would like to keep riding to work. My 
> problem is that I don't have any appropriate winter cycling clothing. 30 
> years ago, I had some wool tights and jerseys, with layers that worked just 
> fine.
>
> I can go "all cyclist" and get fancy winter cycling clothes on line or at 
> a LBS (We have several good LBS' in our area); however, I would like to 
> keep to the spirit of a stealth "Rivendell" look if at all possible. 
> Currently I layer up with various regular daily clothing. I don't have 
> proper face protection, and I don't have proper gloves...I don't have 
> proper anything, really. The wind simply cuts through.
>
> I'm in the Dallas area, so we really haven't had much cold yet, but I 
> would like to be able to ride comfortably in the 40s. I know that many of 
> you do that. I'm open for suggestions. 
>

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[RBW] Re: actual Roadini geometry specs?

[eflayer]

Thanks Bill,

For confirming my less than sweet posting led to the posting of the 
blueprints. Done and done.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> I get GP's orientation to PBH but give the rest of the biking world a 
> break. What are the actual dimensions of this frameset?
>

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[RBW] Re: actual Roadini geometry specs?

[eflayer]

did not mean to cause a sh*t storm. Riv has been very instrumental in my 
evolution of my own bike fit. Unless I missed it, and I may have, I did not 
see those links to blueprints when I looked at the website the other day. 
Did I miss those or did my comment have something to do with them showing 
up in the last 24 hours. Apologize for the attitude but stand by my 
thinking that more info mo better.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> I get GP's orientation to PBH but give the rest of the biking world a 
> break. What are the actual dimensions of this frameset?
>

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[RBW] Re: actual Roadini geometry specs?

[eflayer]

I grew up in the 60's. I don't drink kool aid anymore.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> I get GP's orientation to PBH but give the rest of the biking world a 
> break. What are the actual dimensions of this frameset?
>

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[RBW] Re: actual Roadini geometry specs?

[eflayer]

I don't want f-ing blue prints, just a normal geo chart like every other 
bike company in the entire biking world. Shoot yourself in the foot for 
being different...and then beg us for money.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> I get GP's orientation to PBH but give the rest of the biking world a 
> break. What are the actual dimensions of this frameset?
>

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[RBW] actual Roadini geometry specs?

[eflayer]

I get GP's orientation to PBH but give the rest of the biking world a 
break. What are the actual dimensions of this frameset?

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[RBW] Re: Pleased by longish life from tires and chain; chain life under the pure paraffin regimen

[eflayer]

This article too how the zen of cleaning:

https://moltenspeedwax.com/pages/clean-your-chain

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 10:59:24 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> After installing a new 48 t Pro 5 Vis ring on the '03 (the old one had too 
> much runout; hope with this new one the runout is back to the tolerable 
> average of all the P5V rings I've used) I thought to check my chain: at 
> 75%, so, with a bag of cheap SRAM 9 speeders bought in bulk a few years ago 
> (the Dingle cog requires a 9 speed or narrower) I replaced it, and it is 
> now seething in the crockpot of Molten Speed Wax.
>
> I'd stopped waxing with plain paraffin a few years ago because I was tired 
> of noise after 100 miles, and ~2000 miles to 75% wear. Since then I've been 
> using various bottled "dry" lubes, and being quick and lazy: just wipe 
> chain vigorously with a dry cloth, apply link by link, let dry, wipe again.
>
> Well! That 25%-life-remaining chain had 5023 miles on it. That means a 
> theoretical life of about 7K miles.
>
> So, Anne: while pure paraffin (well, I used to use the stubs of big 
> ornamental candles as well as canning paraffin) certainly keeps the outside 
> of the chain sparking in dry sand, it seems that it doesn't lube the 
> innards as well as other things. The Matthews now has a grand total of 
> about 10-12 miles of dirt on the newly Speed Waxed chain (about half the 26 
> miles since waxing it 10 days ago -- have been riding the Rivs, mostly), 
> and dirt that is very fine sand and coats everything. Rubbing my finger 
> along it just now, they collect as little dirt as they did with the chain 
> waxed with plain paraffin. So I have high hopes for this stuff.
>
> *And*, while I was checking old records, I also discovered that the Elk 
> Pass tires on the '03 have 3,584 miles on the; *and* I don't see 
> near-terminal wear yet on the rear. These are 175 or 180 gram tires, my 
> friends, and I ride them regularly, for 2-3 miles at least, on our local 
> dirt and gravel. Compare that to the 559 X 32 Paselas I used to ride, which 
> were lucky to get 2K miles on pavement!
>
> Patrick Moore, who is exasperated by the fiddly, soft P5V hardware, in 
> ABQ, NM
>
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[RBW] Re: Pleased by longish life from tires and chain; chain life under the pure paraffin regimen

[eflayer]

Love this article on waxing and adding PTFE (Teflon) powder and pure 
molybdenum disulfide (MoS2) to the mixture.

I have been enjoying the zen of waxing and have no clue how many miles I 
get out of a wax job.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/tech-news-friction-facts-releases-ultrafast-chain-lube-formula/



On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 10:59:24 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> After installing a new 48 t Pro 5 Vis ring on the '03 (the old one had too 
> much runout; hope with this new one the runout is back to the tolerable 
> average of all the P5V rings I've used) I thought to check my chain: at 
> 75%, so, with a bag of cheap SRAM 9 speeders bought in bulk a few years ago 
> (the Dingle cog requires a 9 speed or narrower) I replaced it, and it is 
> now seething in the crockpot of Molten Speed Wax.
>
> I'd stopped waxing with plain paraffin a few years ago because I was tired 
> of noise after 100 miles, and ~2000 miles to 75% wear. Since then I've been 
> using various bottled "dry" lubes, and being quick and lazy: just wipe 
> chain vigorously with a dry cloth, apply link by link, let dry, wipe again.
>
> Well! That 25%-life-remaining chain had 5023 miles on it. That means a 
> theoretical life of about 7K miles.
>
> So, Anne: while pure paraffin (well, I used to use the stubs of big 
> ornamental candles as well as canning paraffin) certainly keeps the outside 
> of the chain sparking in dry sand, it seems that it doesn't lube the 
> innards as well as other things. The Matthews now has a grand total of 
> about 10-12 miles of dirt on the newly Speed Waxed chain (about half the 26 
> miles since waxing it 10 days ago -- have been riding the Rivs, mostly), 
> and dirt that is very fine sand and coats everything. Rubbing my finger 
> along it just now, they collect as little dirt as they did with the chain 
> waxed with plain paraffin. So I have high hopes for this stuff.
>
> *And*, while I was checking old records, I also discovered that the Elk 
> Pass tires on the '03 have 3,584 miles on the; *and* I don't see 
> near-terminal wear yet on the rear. These are 175 or 180 gram tires, my 
> friends, and I ride them regularly, for 2-3 miles at least, on our local 
> dirt and gravel. Compare that to the 559 X 32 Paselas I used to ride, which 
> were lucky to get 2K miles on pavement!
>
> Patrick Moore, who is exasperated by the fiddly, soft P5V hardware, in 
> ABQ, NM
>
> -- 
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> Other professional writing services.
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> **
> **
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[RBW] Re: PSA: 60cm Quickbeam on eBay

[eflayer]

as Neil Young would say "rust never sleeps."

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 5:44:00 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/rivendell-quickbeam-singlespeed-bicycle-60-cm-nitto-phil-wood-honjo-brooks-/391772091525
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 60cm Quickbeam on eBay

[eflayer]

I'd worry more about blowing that much money on a dented and rusty bike 
than I would on any danger from the dent itself.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 5:44:00 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/rivendell-quickbeam-singlespeed-bicycle-60-cm-nitto-phil-wood-honjo-brooks-/391772091525
>

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[RBW] Re: looking for a recent post on brake clearance

[eflayer]

yes, on my Salsa Casseroll shod with earlier Shimano BR long reach front 
brake, a 28mm tire would come very close to hitting just underneath the 
brake. On that same bike with Race M installed, the clearance was quite a 
bit bigger and no issue with 28mm Conti 4000 on Velocity A23. 

On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 11:59:22 AM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> Dear list:
>
> Someone on this list, or perhaps the iBob list, posted a link to a page 
> comparing the clearance for different caliper sets in the 47-57 range 
> (e.g., Tektro R539's and TRP RG957 long-reach, Shimano long reach).
>
> The web site had a set of very helpful photos, illustrating that some of 
> the caliper sets had more clearance under the caliper (above the tire).
>
> I'm trying to get a little more clearance below the caliper for the tires 
> on my Della Santa... so if anyone can refer me to the link, many thanks.
>
> (I searched archives, couldn't find the link).
>
> I'll cross post to the Bob list, apologies to all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Max Beach
>

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[RBW] Re: Transporting a fendered tandem

[eflayer]

Rocky Mounts makes a good one that one person can load without undue 
stress. Unique swivel front fork mount makes it doable:

https://rockymounts.com/products/tandem-mount-r4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cXGa5Oz2mY

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 3:37:40 AM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Curious what folks recommend for carrying a fendered tandem on a car. 
>
> Considering the rocky Mounts R4 rack but am concerned that the front 
> fender will preclude mounting. Is this often the case with roof racks like 
> these? I've always used hitch racks with bikes so have no experience with 
> racks up top. 
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Best,
> D. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Transporting a fendered tandem

[eflayer]

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 3:37:40 AM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Curious what folks recommend for carrying a fendered tandem on a car. 
>
> Considering the rocky Mounts R4 rack but am concerned that the front 
> fender will preclude mounting. Is this often the case with roof racks like 
> these? I've always used hitch racks with bikes so have no experience with 
> racks up top. 
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Best,
> D. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Kogswell P vs. Rambouillet

[eflayer]

There was a bike shop in the Northwest that had a batch of Ps painted in 
their own color. Those blues ones were killer.

Matthew Grimm was a character for our times.

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 6:22:41 AM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Saw an ebay listing for a 62cm Kogswell P and the ad copy stated it was an 
> exact copy of the Rambouillet geometry. IIRC, the P was only made briefly, 
> used lugs and HT tubes out of Taiwan.  Does anyone know if was in fact a 
> close relative or truly an exact copy? 
>
> Hard to believe, but the Ram took a "nap" about 10 years ago now and still 
> hasn't woken up :)  I saw an Orange 55 CM frame here on the list this week 
> and ALMOST bought it. It is truly a big too big though, even if I built it 
> as a 650B. I hope someone who will enjoy its ride gets it and builds it up. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - NIB Shimano BR-600 Front Caliper Brake 47-57mm Reach

[eflayer]

personal message sent.

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 7:16:53 PM UTC-8, stoker wrote:
>
> Hi All -
>
> I have a Shimano BR-600 'Long Reach' front caliper brake. The reach is 
> 47-57mm. The brake has top notch hardware, it has never been mounted/used. 
> Please note it is the FRONT BRAKE ONLY. The brake will come 'new in box' 
> with install instructions as pictured.
>
> Please PM off list if interested. $40 shipped CONUS. PayPal preferred.
>
> Thanks for looking!
>

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[RBW] Re: Kogswell P vs. Rambouillet

[eflayer]

The truth be told:

http://yojimg.net/bike/kogswell/kogswell_docs/Model%20P/Model%20P.pdf

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 6:22:41 AM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Saw an ebay listing for a 62cm Kogswell P and the ad copy stated it was an 
> exact copy of the Rambouillet geometry. IIRC, the P was only made briefly, 
> used lugs and HT tubes out of Taiwan.  Does anyone know if was in fact a 
> close relative or truly an exact copy? 
>
> Hard to believe, but the Ram took a "nap" about 10 years ago now and still 
> hasn't woken up :)  I saw an Orange 55 CM frame here on the list this week 
> and ALMOST bought it. It is truly a big too big though, even if I built it 
> as a 650B. I hope someone who will enjoy its ride gets it and builds it up. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne 6-degree upsloping top tube

[eflayer]

I have owned 2 orange Rambouillets, 1 coupled green Rambouillet, and 2 
Bleriots. I absolutely loved the aesthetics of all of them. On the other 
hand, either they did not fit my riding style or they always felt heavy / 
sluggish. I love to ride fast, smooth, no bags, no extra weight. Other 
bikes seems to fit those variables better for me. Or maybe I just need a 
cychologist?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-8, John Bokman wrote:
>
> I'm trying to discern if there's any real (not imagined) physical 
> properties of the upsloping top tube on my 2009 Sam that would make it a 
> sluggish climber. I've never cared for the aesthetics of the sloped frame, 
> so I'm thinking it could be in my head. But the truth is, I've always felt 
> the bike is sluggish climbing, and I'm curious what other's think. Granted, 
> tires make a big difference, but regardless of tires and tire pressures 
> (I've used many variants), the result is the same for me: sluggish 
> climbing. Whatever you do, please don't tell me it's the motor!
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[eflayer]

If you are using the indexing function on those shifters, it is known that 
mountain front derailleurs are not necessarily compatible with road 
shifters. Try a road front derailleur.

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 10:47:39 PM UTC-8, Jack Doran wrote:
>
> I haven't had any luck getting rid of chain rub against the front 
> derailleur plate of a Deore XT front derailleur on my Hunqapillar (Dura Ace 
> shifters). I have a 108 Phil Wood hub and the granny ring is pretty close 
> to the chain stay as it is, and I can't get it much closer. Seems like an 
> XT would have enough throw to be up to the task, but I've tried getting the 
> cable tension as high as possible by pulling hard on the cable down at the 
> anchor bolt and tightening the barrel adjustors at the shifters. No luck. 
> Any troubleshooting steps I might try?
>

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[RBW] Re: girlfriend bike / crazy kickstand install

[eflayer]

Maybe the issue I never solved was attaching an actual Pleitscher-branded 
kickstand in the bottom up manner as I think the Greenfield Retro uses 
different bolt size. As I recall Pleitscher is a better quality stand even 
though both brands "look" the same.

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:57:11 AM UTC-8, S. Greco wrote:
>
> My lovely girlfriend was finally ready to graduate from her Schwinn to 
> something a little nicer. She wasn't ready for a Riv despite my 
> recommendations. Her criteria was that it must be a step-through frame. My 
> criteria was that it must have a derailleur hanger - a proper one and not a 
> metal tab hanging off the drop out. This combination was surprisingly 
> harder to find than I thought it would be. I managed to find an old Colner 
> (Ernesto Colnago) on eBay for a decent price. It came with some Campy Gran 
> Compe and had internal top-tube routing which was a nice bonus. She 
> insisted that it have a kickstand though, which became more of a project 
> than I thought. 
>
> I ordered the standard Pletscher Kickstand from Riv but due to the tight 
> geometry of the frame there isn't alot of room in the rear triangle. I had 
> to switch the hex bolt to a button head which was much more low-profile. 
> Then, realizing that the plate would sit crooked on the bottom bracket lugs 
> had to machine a little rabbet so that the plates would sit flush and clamp 
> properly. Lastly as this whole assembly was now blocking any chance of 
> getting at the chain stay bridge I had to bury a flat head in the chain 
> stay with a nylock so that there was a captive threaded post to bolt on the 
> fender.
>
> In the end I think it turned out to be a pretty sweet ride. I never 
> thought a kickstand install could be so complicated.
> Next step is a brake upgrade, then I gotta replace these cottered cranks.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: girlfriend bike / crazy kickstand install

[eflayer]

I "stand" corrected:

http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/greenfield-ks2sb-kickstand-with-retro-kit-black?gclid=Cj0KEQiA4o3DBRCJsZqh8vWqt_8BEiQA2Fw0eSpQmaC512X9vvR1e_iF6XVegKG21BzdAiHkvQ2QVXwaAg3a8P8HAQ

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:57:11 AM UTC-8, S. Greco wrote:
>
> My lovely girlfriend was finally ready to graduate from her Schwinn to 
> something a little nicer. She wasn't ready for a Riv despite my 
> recommendations. Her criteria was that it must be a step-through frame. My 
> criteria was that it must have a derailleur hanger - a proper one and not a 
> metal tab hanging off the drop out. This combination was surprisingly 
> harder to find than I thought it would be. I managed to find an old Colner 
> (Ernesto Colnago) on eBay for a decent price. It came with some Campy Gran 
> Compe and had internal top-tube routing which was a nice bonus. She 
> insisted that it have a kickstand though, which became more of a project 
> than I thought. 
>
> I ordered the standard Pletscher Kickstand from Riv but due to the tight 
> geometry of the frame there isn't alot of room in the rear triangle. I had 
> to switch the hex bolt to a button head which was much more low-profile. 
> Then, realizing that the plate would sit crooked on the bottom bracket lugs 
> had to machine a little rabbet so that the plates would sit flush and clamp 
> properly. Lastly as this whole assembly was now blocking any chance of 
> getting at the chain stay bridge I had to bury a flat head in the chain 
> stay with a nylock so that there was a captive threaded post to bolt on the 
> fender.
>
> In the end I think it turned out to be a pretty sweet ride. I never 
> thought a kickstand install could be so complicated.
> Next step is a brake upgrade, then I gotta replace these cottered cranks.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: girlfriend bike / crazy kickstand install

[eflayer]

The retro kit enable better fitting of the top bracket but the bolt hole 
and bolt head are still in the same position. That position often brings 
the bolt head really close to the seat tube. Why not thread the top bracket 
and bring the bolt in from the bottom side?

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:57:11 AM UTC-8, S. Greco wrote:
>
> My lovely girlfriend was finally ready to graduate from her Schwinn to 
> something a little nicer. She wasn't ready for a Riv despite my 
> recommendations. Her criteria was that it must be a step-through frame. My 
> criteria was that it must have a derailleur hanger - a proper one and not a 
> metal tab hanging off the drop out. This combination was surprisingly 
> harder to find than I thought it would be. I managed to find an old Colner 
> (Ernesto Colnago) on eBay for a decent price. It came with some Campy Gran 
> Compe and had internal top-tube routing which was a nice bonus. She 
> insisted that it have a kickstand though, which became more of a project 
> than I thought. 
>
> I ordered the standard Pletscher Kickstand from Riv but due to the tight 
> geometry of the frame there isn't alot of room in the rear triangle. I had 
> to switch the hex bolt to a button head which was much more low-profile. 
> Then, realizing that the plate would sit crooked on the bottom bracket lugs 
> had to machine a little rabbet so that the plates would sit flush and clamp 
> properly. Lastly as this whole assembly was now blocking any chance of 
> getting at the chain stay bridge I had to bury a flat head in the chain 
> stay with a nylock so that there was a captive threaded post to bolt on the 
> fender.
>
> In the end I think it turned out to be a pretty sweet ride. I never 
> thought a kickstand install could be so complicated.
> Next step is a brake upgrade, then I gotta replace these cottered cranks.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: girlfriend bike / crazy kickstand install

[eflayer]

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:57:11 AM UTC-8, S. Greco wrote:
>
> My lovely girlfriend was finally ready to graduate from her Schwinn to 
> something a little nicer. She wasn't ready for a Riv despite my 
> recommendations. Her criteria was that it must be a step-through frame. My 
> criteria was that it must have a derailleur hanger - a proper one and not a 
> metal tab hanging off the drop out. This combination was surprisingly 
> harder to find than I thought it would be. I managed to find an old Colner 
> (Ernesto Colnago) on eBay for a decent price. It came with some Campy Gran 
> Compe and had internal top-tube routing which was a nice bonus. She 
> insisted that it have a kickstand though, which became more of a project 
> than I thought. 
>
> I ordered the standard Pletscher Kickstand from Riv but due to the tight 
> geometry of the frame there isn't alot of room in the rear triangle. I had 
> to switch the hex bolt to a button head which was much more low-profile. 
> Then, realizing that the plate would sit crooked on the bottom bracket lugs 
> had to machine a little rabbet so that the plates would sit flush and clamp 
> properly. Lastly as this whole assembly was now blocking any chance of 
> getting at the chain stay bridge I had to bury a flat head in the chain 
> stay with a nylock so that there was a captive threaded post to bolt on the 
> fender.
>
> In the end I think it turned out to be a pretty sweet ride. I never 
> thought a kickstand install could be so complicated.
> Next step is a brake upgrade, then I gotta replace these cottered cranks.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: girlfriend bike / crazy kickstand install

[eflayer]

I've spent hours trying to "screw" with ill-fitting kickstands like this. 
Doesn't it seem like Pleitscher and Greenfield could make a model where you 
insert and tighten the bolt from under the BB instead of on top? Isn't 
there always more clearance underneath? Am I missing something here in how 
that would be tough to make happen?
'

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:57:11 AM UTC-8, S. Greco wrote:
>
> My lovely girlfriend was finally ready to graduate from her Schwinn to 
> something a little nicer. She wasn't ready for a Riv despite my 
> recommendations. Her criteria was that it must be a step-through frame. My 
> criteria was that it must have a derailleur hanger - a proper one and not a 
> metal tab hanging off the drop out. This combination was surprisingly 
> harder to find than I thought it would be. I managed to find an old Colner 
> (Ernesto Colnago) on eBay for a decent price. It came with some Campy Gran 
> Compe and had internal top-tube routing which was a nice bonus. She 
> insisted that it have a kickstand though, which became more of a project 
> than I thought. 
>
> I ordered the standard Pletscher Kickstand from Riv but due to the tight 
> geometry of the frame there isn't alot of room in the rear triangle. I had 
> to switch the hex bolt to a button head which was much more low-profile. 
> Then, realizing that the plate would sit crooked on the bottom bracket lugs 
> had to machine a little rabbet so that the plates would sit flush and clamp 
> properly. Lastly as this whole assembly was now blocking any chance of 
> getting at the chain stay bridge I had to bury a flat head in the chain 
> stay with a nylock so that there was a captive threaded post to bolt on the 
> fender.
>
> In the end I think it turned out to be a pretty sweet ride. I never 
> thought a kickstand install could be so complicated.
> Next step is a brake upgrade, then I gotta replace these cottered cranks.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[eflayer]

Use your mouth in a different way. Down bike paths, when I see walkers out 
front, I say "beep" "beep" in a rather pleasant and playful and loud enough 
way that works nearly every time the first time. If you say it early 
enough, you can watch them move whichever direction they choose before you 
ever get there. Their response is sort of like making eye contact with 
drivers at a 4 way stop sign. Folks with ear buds on multi use trails 
deserve little mercy...bikers or walker or runners. Beeping is more 
interpersonal than ON YOUR LEFT :). 

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 5:33:06 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>
> Do you think it's ok, when riding on the path, if you can pass a 
> walker/runner/family, safely with 3 feet to spare, to go by without 
> warning? That means not saying "on your left" or something else, or not 
> ringing your bell if you have one. I ask because I was riding my Roadeo 
> today (50 degrees here in KC!) and it doesn't have a bell yet. A bell is my 
> much preferred method of warning that I'm there. But I find that many 
> people are startled by a bell just as much as "on your left." Or they have 
> earbuds in and don't here you. Also, my experience with "on your left" is 
> that 50% of the people who hear that, move to their left. I ALWAYS ride 
> with the knowledge that pedestrians have the right of way, NO MATTER WHAT. 
> I give a wide berth to others, really slow down when there's a family, and 
> try to smile and be friendly. But the more I think about it, it really 
> seems to me that a warning of any type only works with about half of the 
> people out there. On the other hand, I passed a woman one day without 
> warning her, she was on the far right and I was on the far left, at least 5 
> feet away, and she was pretty nasty about letting me know she didn't like 
> it. So sometimes it seems like you just can't win. What do you all think?

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[RBW] Re: Stovetop Espresso (moka pot) tips please

[eflayer]

Not trying to be the typical nay saying internet guy, but why futz? 
Aeropress your cares away! No mutz, no futz.

On Monday, December 26, 2016 at 6:30:59 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I have a Bialetti Kitty 4 cup I am not smart enough to make good coffee 
> with. It seems very persnickety — which isn’t a good thing because I am 
> persnickety. Sardonic grin. 
>
> Tips? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[eflayer]

Someone once said variety is the spice of life. Buying and holding a single 
bike does not align with that philosophy. I've owned many many fine bikes 
over the last 15 years and have enjoyed the adventure of learning about and 
riding a variety of styles, materials, and price points. My favorite of the 
35 or so is my custom ti made in a far away eastern foreign land.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:40:16 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: a lotta bike, not a lotta money | New Albion Privateer, 60 cm

[eflayer]

sold

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:59:36 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> New Albion Privateer, 60 cm, grocery getter, etc.
>
> I built this up and used it some around town, but have relocated to where 
> the groceries need to be gotten by car.
>
> It is an Eddie build with an eclectic mix of parts:
>
> Sora 9 STI shifters
> FSA Headset
> FSA compact 44 cm bars
> Tiagra 170 mm triple crankset
> Wellgo 2 sided pedals 
> 105 triple front d
> XT SGS rear d
> 11-34 cassette
> Tektro canit brakes available front and rear. Right now only installed on 
> the rear with long reach caliper on the front.
> Rack Time rear rack
> Open Pro Ultegra 28 hole wheels
> Chainstay-mounted rear kickstand
>
> The wheels are really nice and maybe a bit too lightweight for the bike's 
> purpose build, but good just the same.
>
> All parts are in new or very close to new condition. Frame may have one or 
> two tiny scratches.
>
> I'd like to sell the built bike, but would consider parting out in some 
> way.
>
> $500 picked up in Santa Rosa, CA
>
> I also have a new set of Ortlieb Shopper Panniers. Those would be $100 for 
> the pair.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Is there a practical alternative to a Roadeo for lightweight yet comfortable build?

[eflayer]

Bruce, I am oldish and need bars up high, but still like to avoid aesthetic 
of high riser stem. The Carver design was the best way I knew how to have 
some aesthetic and some comfort. By the way I did a pay a bit more to have 
butted downtube and and more stout chainstays. The best overall road feel 
of any bike I've owned. I now have it shod with Michelin Endurance 28 mm 
tires.  And yes, Enve fork come with 350 mm steerer and tall headtube keeps 
me out of the danger zone of too many spacers under the stem.

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 12:45:38 PM UTC-8, Pierre wrote:
>
> Hi bunch,
>
> I found myself increasingly attracted to the the idea of a lightweight 
> (sub-20lbs) Roadeo build.
>
> But I already have a drop-bar Hilsen, so tiny part of me tells me I ought 
> to look at alternatives.
>
> What's out there? (in term of practical preferably-lugged 
> can-fit-at-least-30mm yet-lightweight comfy frames).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pierre
>

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[RBW] Re: Is there a practical alternative to a Roadeo for lightweight yet comfortable build?

[eflayer]

Regarding Carver Bikes. The Gravel Grinder is built by Lynsky and it not a 
custom to your spec. Other than country of origin, I can pretty much 
guarantee that the Eastern made frame will be to your absolute liking. And 
you can then work with Davis to design it exactly the way you want it. 
Choose the tubes meant for your riding style and weight. Even though in 
many ways, he flies under the radar, I'd bet he's designed and or had built 
more ti frames than many US boutique builders. About 8 weeks from approved 
CAD drawing to the frame showing up at your door. I was 100% satisfied with 
my conversation and the outcome.

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 12:45:38 PM UTC-8, Pierre wrote:
>
> Hi bunch,
>
> I found myself increasingly attracted to the the idea of a lightweight 
> (sub-20lbs) Roadeo build.
>
> But I already have a drop-bar Hilsen, so tiny part of me tells me I ought 
> to look at alternatives.
>
> What's out there? (in term of practical preferably-lugged 
> can-fit-at-least-30mm yet-lightweight comfy frames).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pierre
>

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[RBW] Re: Is there a practical alternative to a Roadeo for lightweight yet comfortable build?

[eflayer]

Davis Carver of Carver Bikes will do you a custom titanium frame born in 
China for $1200.

My favorite road bike of the 35 I've owned over the last 15 years.

http://carverbikes.com/frames/custom-titanium/

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 12:45:38 PM UTC-8, Pierre wrote:
>
> Hi bunch,
>
> I found myself increasingly attracted to the the idea of a lightweight 
> (sub-20lbs) Roadeo build.
>
> But I already have a drop-bar Hilsen, so tiny part of me tells me I ought 
> to look at alternatives.
>
> What's out there? (in term of practical preferably-lugged 
> can-fit-at-least-30mm yet-lightweight comfy frames).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pierre
>

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[RBW] Re: My newish Roadeo and paint touchup tips

[eflayer]

to do it right requires patience and a steady hand:

http://guidetodetailing.com/damage-repair/how-to-repair-paint-chips-deep-scratches/

On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 9:26:12 AM UTC-8, Chad wrote:
>
> So I'm enjoying the 53cm demo Roadeo I recently bought from Riv, though I 
> haven't had the chance to get very many rides in.  It is in remarkable 
> shape, the only obvious blemish being several chainstay chips that really 
> standout on the white. I ordered a bottle of touchup paint from Waterford.  
> I've had varied success touching up bike paint in the past.  I'm attaching 
> a pic of the Waterford touchup instructions.  The only thing that does not 
> make sense to me is using nail polish remover to thin the paint.  Wouldn't 
> I better off using model paint thinner or thinner from the auto parts 
> store.  Should I apply clearcoat over the white.  In the past, I've just 
> used the Dupicolor automotive touchup kit with as close to a match as I 
> could find.  The auto kit included a small sanding tip to clean out the 
> chip and clearcoat.  Any tips?  I'm sure I'm overthinking this!
>

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[RBW] Re: New tire

[eflayer]

I have been running Michelin Endurance by 25mm and 28mm for the last few 
months. I love how they feel and the price from places in Great Britain are 
really great. On the other hand, not sure about their flat resistance as I 
have 2 on the same rear in about 2 months. Of course, could just be bad 
luck.

As I understand it this model is now being discontinued in favor of 
something newer / better.

http://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/reviews/first-look-michelin-power-tires

On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 5:56:55 PM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I had worn out my Grand Bois 28c rear tire and was ready to buy a new one( 
> $70 shipped). So I decided to check out some prices. Western Bikeworks had 
> a super sale on Michelen Pro4 tires and I bought a pair of Pro4 Endurance 
> 700x28's and they are super. I run 62f, 75r lbs, and the ride is superb. 
> And the good news the two tires cost less than one Grand Bois.
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

[eflayer]

Seems to me the meaning comes out of a design and lifestyle aesthetic and 
value system invented by and marketed by Grant Peterson. He is incredibly 
focused on it and appears to be a man with a mission much stronger than 
most of us. He has created a world of his own design and filled it with 
mostly fine products that fit that world. His tireless interest in the 
written word and his quirky writing style are attractive to many of us who 
enjoy being entertained by a strong personality. I'd say he is evangelical 
in his approach and needs to be that way in order to sustain the business 
he has built. His fingerprints are deep in all that is RBW. He is seemingly 
practical to a fault and the aesthetic and price of his practical jewelry 
are not really practical at all. The bikes are all gorgeous and heavy in a 
day of lightweight steel, but he sells the heck out that stuff to those who 
buy the evangelism. No harm in it. In fact, if it makes you happy, it can't 
be that bad. I have been following him for 15 years, owned 5 Rivs of one 
sort or another. They mostly don't fit my fast, club riding bike style, so 
own them no more. He lost me, in a sense, at double top tubes. But as you 
can see, RBW still means something to me.



On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:10:42 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> For those of you who don’t know me, in addition to wanting a Rivendell 
> bicycle for years, owning a Hillborne for a year or two and being a member 
> of this group for over a year, I am also a professor of Industrial Design.  
> This semester I have been teaching my course entitled, “Design and 
> Meaning”.  The goal of the course is to prompt our students to explore 
> various roles that meaning plays in the industrial design profession.  A 
> portion of the time we look at the more artistic side of design and how 
> designers express ideas using industrial design as a medium for 
> expression.  Another aspect of the class covers semiotics and semantics and 
> how designers can utilize form to communicate function.  The third topic of 
> the course deals with meaning that people associate with and attach to the 
> built environment that surrounds them.  As one of the lectures, I’ve been 
> trying to pull together a lecture about RBW.  It seems to me that there are 
> interesting connections between RBW, Grant’s ideas and meaning for many of 
> us who own Rivendell bikes and accessories, belong to this group and/or the 
> Facebook group, and believe in a cycling lifestyle that may veer from 
> current mainstream bicycle culture. This is where my question lies… How 
> do you connect meaning (however you interpret that) with RBW, Grant’s 
> writings, bicycles in general and the design of bikes and other goods at 
> RBW (as well as B,B)?  Are there design choices made at RBW that boosts 
> that sense of meaning?  
>
>
> Rather than presenting the students with just my take on that subject, I 
> thought I'd solicit the thoughts of group members.  I’d be happy to field 
> your thoughts via private responses but, if everyone is OK with this as a 
> topic of open discussion, I think it might be a fun one to be shared in the 
> group forum. Also, this is intended only for a course 
> lecture/presentation and, even in that limited audience of 24 students, I 
> will do all I can to protect every individual’s anonymity.  If this grows 
> into something particularly interesting worth publishing somewhere, I would 
> want to communicate with contributors before publishing anything anywhere.
>
>
> So, there it is… any thoughts?
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Chainstay protector

[eflayer]

These are not the least bit Riv-ish, but work darn well. If they start to 
come up, I use a hair dryer to soften the adhesive and they are really nice 
and heavy plastic-y material:

http://www.amazon.com/VELO-Velo-StayTop-Kit/dp/B003UWLVWG

On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 2:57:49 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> What's the preferred method around these parts for protecting the stay 
> from chain slap?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv bike packing documentary

[eflayer]

google your friend:

https://vimeo.com/133708979

On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 3:05:21 PM UTC-8, Mitch Browne wrote:
>
> Group,
>
> Several months back I believe a link was posted to a Riv video or web 
> how-to for a new way of packing bikes for shipping.
>
> It involved cutting strips of card board the width of the box and then 
> inserting the strips in the frame triangle and other areas of the shipping 
> box to stiffen the sides and negate most unintentional crushing during 
> shipment.
>
> I looked on Riv's website, Blug, and searched this group but can't seem to 
> find it.
>
> I'll be shipping a Rivish mixte to a friend soon and that method seems 
> well worth trying.
>
> Can anyone point me to this information?
>
> Mitch Browne
> San Luis Obispo
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv bike packing documentary

[eflayer]

the group is here to provide just in time tech support.

On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 3:05:21 PM UTC-8, Mitch Browne wrote:
>
> Group,
>
> Several months back I believe a link was posted to a Riv video or web 
> how-to for a new way of packing bikes for shipping.
>
> It involved cutting strips of card board the width of the box and then 
> inserting the strips in the frame triangle and other areas of the shipping 
> box to stiffen the sides and negate most unintentional crushing during 
> shipment.
>
> I looked on Riv's website, Blug, and searched this group but can't seem to 
> find it.
>
> I'll be shipping a Rivish mixte to a friend soon and that method seems 
> well worth trying.
>
> Can anyone point me to this information?
>
> Mitch Browne
> San Luis Obispo
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv bike packing documentary

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On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 3:05:21 PM UTC-8, Mitch Browne wrote:
>
> Group,
>
> Several months back I believe a link was posted to a Riv video or web 
> how-to for a new way of packing bikes for shipping.
>
> It involved cutting strips of card board the width of the box and then 
> inserting the strips in the frame triangle and other areas of the shipping 
> box to stiffen the sides and negate most unintentional crushing during 
> shipment.
>
> I looked on Riv's website, Blug, and searched this group but can't seem to 
> find it.
>
> I'll be shipping a Rivish mixte to a friend soon and that method seems 
> well worth trying.
>
> Can anyone point me to this information?
>
> Mitch Browne
> San Luis Obispo
>

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[RBW] posted previously?: the great Riv SKS Longboard install video

[eflayer]

I video is worth a thousand goddamits!

Elegant German engineering in conflict with my mechanical aptitude.

http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=85

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[RBW] Re: Tires for road bike 700x23

[eflayer]

I have become rather fond of Michelin Litihion 2. I don't keep track of 
mileage, nor flat frequency, but they feel good and don't seem to be of 
less quality than others I've tried.

And if you get  em from probikekit.com = about $20 each.

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:12:32 AM UTC-8, Jon in the foothills of 
Central Colorado wrote:

 Looking to replace my Continental  Grand Prix 4000 700x23 road 
 clincher tires. I have had good luck ( very few flats)with the 
 Continentals.Just thinking of trying a different tire.
 I was looking at the Clement Strata LGG road tire or the Schwalb One 
 clincher.
 Does anyone have experience with either of these two tires.
 Jon


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[RBW] Re: Any Riv-riders done PacTour before?

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I did week 3 a few years back. Not sure if week 3 is still the one with 
reasonable speeds and distances. They used to do it in collaboration with 
Bike Friday and it was the only week that I could consider because I am a 
normal human being. Susan and Lon are great folks and the trip was well 
organized with good food, great sag, and lots of extra helpers who work as 
volunteers. Check out week 3.

On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 8:09:31 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:

 I just was reading about the tours and they are some amazing distances.
 One is around 100miles a day for 15 days or something like that.

 Did you use your Rivbike?
 How'd you train for it?



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[RBW] Re: Any Riv-riders done PacTour before?

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Looks like week 1 is now the one with reasonable distances.

On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 8:09:31 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:

 I just was reading about the tours and they are some amazing distances.
 One is around 100miles a day for 15 days or something like that.

 Did you use your Rivbike?
 How'd you train for it?



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[RBW] Re: ISO Bay Area frame builder

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Steve Rex in Sacramento is a master. In my experience he is also a pretty 
great fitter. May be worth the drive. I did it. 



On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:25:20 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:

 Well, my preferred route to a new custom touring frame fell through. Can 
 any in SF Bay Area suggest great builders who do lugged steel frames? I'm 
 tall enough that I don't fit most stock frames, and but also want to 
 incorporate some specific design ideas that point to a custom. Things like 
 Rohloff IGH with reinforced rear frame instead of bolt-on torque arm; also 
 braze-on centerpulls, and internal wire routing for lighting. Nothing 
 crazy... ;-)

 Thanks,

 - Andrew, Berkeley


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[RBW] Product placement coup by Riv in Consumer Reports review of Ford Transit Connect van

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http://finance.yahoo.com/video/ford-transit-connect-2014-2015-154141113.html

Could not quite believe I was seeing an Atlantis? with mustache in the back 
of this van. Am I seeing things?

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[RBW] anyone tried VO Fairweather Panaracer smooth tires? Compared to Compass?

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would love to hear opinions / reviews.

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[eflayer]

FS: 2009 Specialized Roubaix Pro frameset, 61 cm, XXL, with threaded bottom 
bracket. Nearly 100% perfect condition. $800 shipped. Feel the lightness of 
being.
On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: Front derailer forever overshifting - need help.

[eflayer]

If the front d is overshifting as to push the chain off the outside of the 
big ring, then the outside limit screw...is set in such a way that it is 
allowing this to happen. There should be a perfectish setting where the 
chain makes it on to the big but is limited by the limit screw making it 
impossible to over shift. Also I would guess that the Campy Racind Triple 
front d was not made for a large chainring as small as a 46. You might 
consider and IRD Apina triple front, which is made for small triple road 
cranks.
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:13:40 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I have had my Rivendell for approximately 9 years now. During this time I 
 have continually had problems with overshifting of the front derailer.  
 This has continued through 4 different cranksets, two or three different 
 front derailers, different brands of chains, different casettes, different 
 LBSs tinkering with it and so forth.  Not to mention my own tinkering.  
 I've theorized that maybe the seat tube angle on my bike is different than 
 others due to the large size of my bike - 69cm, but I don't really know.

 I had given up on the problem and just rode the chain back on to the big 
 ring if it came off that way, or stopped and put it back on the granny if 
 it came off that way.

 I just recently as in last week switched to a Deore SGS derailer, so super 
 long cage.  With so much longer of a cage, it pulls the chain back a lot 
 father now when it comes off the big ring and I am afraid of something 
 catastrophic happening like the chain getting tangled up in the spokes.  So 
 there is a renewed urgency to do something about it.

 The current front derailer is a Campy Racing T, which from what I read on 
 the Internet is supposed to be good at shifting compact triples.  I am 
 currently running a Sugino XD600 46/36/26 crankset and also using Shimano 9 
 speed bar ends.  If it makes a difference.

 I read something on the 650B list about bending in the leading tip of the 
 outer plate to prevent overshifting.  I really don't want to trash a 
 perfectly good front derailer but I'd be willing to try it if there was a 
 reasonable expectation of it being successful.  To quote:

 On my last successful Ritchey crank build I used an NOS first generation 
 Shimano deer head with said alignment and the leading tip of the outer 
 plate bent in to better keep the 9spd chain from over shifting when coming 
 back up onto the big ring.

 Or is there a different derailer model I should be using?  I'm open to it.

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 Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! 


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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

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Don Compton,
 
Congrats. That's where I started and then went down a bit more from there.
 
Cool that you either really noticed a difference or you are being taken in 
by just changing a variable and have the ride be different. I think the 
tires are actually that good and THEY do make a difference.
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
 tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

 I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
 splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
 would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
 around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 

 Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My buddy 
 with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires were. 
 When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I grew 
 tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just rode 
 straight with no trouble. 
  
 No flats, no problems.

 I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
 width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
 (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 

 -- 
 -- Anne Paulson

 It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 


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[RBW] Re: Any recommendations on a Atlantis wannabe?

[eflayer]

Depends on what size wheels you are looking for. If 700c, I might suggest 
the New Albion Privateer:
 
http://newalbioncycles.com/privateer1/
 
Or Soma Saga:
 
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/saga
 
Maybe slightly better tubes on the Saga, but who knows? I took a short ride 
on the built up Saga and found it to be nice parts and quite the ride.
 

On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:48:25 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:

 I own an Atlantis and it has been my favorite bike, ever. I bought the 
 frame new in '99 or so and it has been my main transportation since then. I 
 love the fit and am trying to find an inexpensive frame, such as an old 
 chromoly Mt. Bike frame, that has close to the same geometry for my 
 girlfriend. I am hoping the tribe has some suggestions?


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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

[eflayer]

I think a lot of bike parts hype is mostly just hype. And I prefer the 
scientific to mere annecdotal evidence. I have no real science on MY Cerfs 
and my Cypre tires. I don't even have a very good imagination. But I swear 
these 2 sets of tires have made their corresponding bikes so much more fun 
to ride. I rode my Cerf shodded Curtlo coupled bike yesterday. 35 miles, 
3500 feet, up down and and all around fast curves, crappy pavement. Love 
the tires a lot. Cerfs at approx 60 psi, me at 195 lbs.
 

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
 tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

 I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
 splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
 would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
 around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 

 Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My buddy 
 with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires were. 
 When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I grew 
 tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just rode 
 straight with no trouble. 
  
 No flats, no problems.

 I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
 width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
 (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 

 -- 
 -- Anne Paulson

 It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 


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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

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Don,
 
My Cerfs are 28 mm. I run 85 psi in Michelin Lithion 25 mm. Reduce the 
pressure, enjoy the ride.
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
 tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

 I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
 splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
 would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
 around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 

 Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My buddy 
 with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires were. 
 When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I grew 
 tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just rode 
 straight with no trouble. 
  
 No flats, no problems.

 I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
 width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
 (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 

 -- 
 -- Anne Paulson

 It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 


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[RBW] Re: Kogswell

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On Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:29:55 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Anyone have a recommended PBH on this beaut? I know there are some owners 
 on the list. Thanks


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-62cm-Kogswell-Model-P-rivendell-low-trail-fork-sport-touring-randonneur-/111373165443?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item19ee5ba383
  
  

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[RBW] Re: The true shakedown ride on New Albion Privateer with Grand Bois Cypres - 45 miles in Sonoma County

[eflayer]

Of course I meant Sonoma County, not Sonoma crappy.
On Saturday, May 24, 2014 6:04:40 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:

 Originally I built the Privateer with Albatross, bar end shifters, Maxxis 
 Refuse x 28 mm tires, Shimano Sora triple, and Wellgo dual sided 
 platform/SPD pedals. I tried every fit variable over and over again and 
 could never get truly comfy on Abatross and bar ends. So next I went to my 
 favorite compact drop bars and brifters. Ahhh, now it was becoming a bike I 
 could appreciate. But it still felt sort of slow and clunky for the kind of 
 fast club riding I do, and do mostly on my ti and my carbon. I know the 
 Privateer frame and fork at $350 should not turn into a truly great bike 
 and I was getting ready to relegate to being the town bike.
  
 Decided to give it one last chance of staying in the preferred riding herd 
 and that is when I went for Grand Bois Cypres. Immediate difference in 
 comfort and speed. So then I removed the clunky pedals, replaced with my 
 much preferred Speedplay Frogs and turned it from a frog to a prince.
  
 Today I was in Sonoma crappy on some of finest and some of the crappiest 
 roads around. So many patches in places there were no more spot to put 
 patches. It was a great ride and give most the credit to the tires. On this 
 bike they have made a difference I can't quite believe/understand. Seeingly 
 fast on the smooth and an uncanny way of lessening the impact in the crap 
 sections.
  
 And for the type of riding I prefer to do; drops and brifters and Frogs 
 make all the differerence in the world.
  
 A good steel frame, but I take my helmet off to Grand Bois Cypres. I am a 
 fan.


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[RBW] FS: Cane Creek SCR-5 brake levers, silver

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Very nice condition. These are the ones that work with calipers and cantis.
 
$30 shipped

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cane Creek SCR-5 brake levers, silver

[eflayer]

sold.
On Monday, May 19, 2014 4:13:41 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:

 Very nice condition. These are the ones that work with calipers and cantis.
  
 $30 shipped


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[RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes

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maybe crappy brakes. what ya got?
On Saturday, May 17, 2014 3:45:40 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Compared with the brakes on my Hunqapillar, the Quickbeam’s brakes feel 
 squishy. They could use some tightening, but not by much (and are worn 
 about half way). Possible causes I could think of:

 — New pads (these are the stock Tektro pads), I’d put on the kwikstops 
 (qwikstops?).
 — The QB has aero-levers vs. the Hunqapillar’s non-aero-levers. Could that 
 contribute to squish?

 Other ideas? I prefer to start simple first, of course.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes

[eflayer]

I just installed Tektro 720 cantis on the Privateer. Crappy pads. Replaced 
with Kool Stop black and they work way better now.
On Saturday, May 17, 2014 3:45:40 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Compared with the brakes on my Hunqapillar, the Quickbeam’s brakes feel 
 squishy. They could use some tightening, but not by much (and are worn 
 about half way). Possible causes I could think of:

 — New pads (these are the stock Tektro pads), I’d put on the kwikstops 
 (qwikstops?).
 — The QB has aero-levers vs. the Hunqapillar’s non-aero-levers. Could that 
 contribute to squish?

 Other ideas? I prefer to start simple first, of course.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

[eflayer]

 
--
 I just replaced the tires on my newest commuter-y type bike, the New 
Albion Privateer. It is a pretty stout steel steed. I was running Maxxis 
Refuse 700x28 folding tires at 85 psi. I thought maybe they might have been 
making the stoutness feel even more stout - a bit harsh and BUMPY. And the 
bike seemed unfast, ie slow.

I installed a pair of Compass *Cypres* 700x32 tanwalls at about 70 psi. 
Maybe the most pronounced ride-feel difference I have ever felt doing a 
parts/tire switch. Now the ride is more like bouncing a good basketball on 
a wood floor and it just seems way zippier...but I could be imagining 
things. 

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[RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?

[eflayer]

I think what we really need is a people lifter. A contraption that picks 
the person up with a caliper around your chest area. And once off the 
ground a robotic voice says, dude you are feeling so light today. you must 
have lost 50 grams between yesterday and today! love you for that!
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:31:59 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Assuming the 1-manpower engine stays the same.

 From time to time I think of shaving weight off bikes and I wonder if it 
 really matters for a non-racer person like me who could stand to lose 25 
 lbs.
 I think if I lost the weight it would be much easier to turn the cranks 
 than if I shaved 4 lbs. off the bike.

 But I am not sure how these mechanical things work, so I was wondering.


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[RBW] Re: tires - I could be imagining things, but...I am thinking Cypres is good

[eflayer]

So if the Cypres is actually a Grand Bois-branded product. Is there a 
similar/better Compass-branded 700 x 32-ish?
On Monday, May 12, 2014 7:35:44 AM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:

  
 --
  I just replaced the tires on my newest commuter-y type bike, the New 
 Albion Privateer. It is a pretty stout steel steed. I was running Maxxis 
 Refuse 700x28 folding tires at 85 psi. I thought maybe they might have been 
 making the stoutness feel even more stout - a bit harsh and BUMPY. And the 
 bike seemed unfast, ie slow.

 I installed a pair of Compass *Cypres* 700x32 tanwalls at about 70 psi. 
 Maybe the most pronounced ride-feel difference I have ever felt doing a 
 parts/tire switch. Now the ride is more like bouncing a good basketball on 
 a wood floor and it just seems way zippier...but I could be imagining 
 things. 


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[RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?

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On Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:31:59 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Assuming the 1-manpower engine stays the same.

 From time to time I think of shaving weight off bikes and I wonder if it 
 really matters for a non-racer person like me who could stand to lose 25 
 lbs.
 I think if I lost the weight it would be much easier to turn the cranks 
 than if I shaved 4 lbs. off the bike.

 But I am not sure how these mechanical things work, so I was wondering.


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[RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?

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I could stand to lose 10 lbs and 10 years. I have control over one but not 
the other. I was out riding my 23 lb New Albion Privateer today. We were 
flying as best we could. It would have been a bit faster and climbing would 
have been easier on the 17 lb Specialized Roubaix. I can't quantify that 
statement, but I do feel it in my bones. I had a great time today, but 
could have have been flying faster on the Roubaix. So lucky to have a few 
bikes and be able to compare and contrast and keep on riding.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:31:59 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Assuming the 1-manpower engine stays the same.

 From time to time I think of shaving weight off bikes and I wonder if it 
 really matters for a non-racer person like me who could stand to lose 25 
 lbs.
 I think if I lost the weight it would be much easier to turn the cranks 
 than if I shaved 4 lbs. off the bike.

 But I am not sure how these mechanical things work, so I was wondering.


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[RBW] Grand Bois Cypres 700x30 min inflation

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for 195 lb human on bike with no baggage...just man and bike. Been running 
700x25 on my other bikes at 85 psi, but would like the Cyrpes ride to be as 
buttery as is safe.

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[RBW] Re: What is the advantage of expensive hubs?

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the law of diminishing returns does set in at some point:
 
The law of diminishing returns is a classic economic concept that states 
that as more investment in an area is made, overall return on that 
investment increases at a declining rate, assuming that all variables 
remain fixed. To continue to make an investment after a certain point 
(which varies from context to context) is to receive a decreasing return on 
that input.
 
You might consider moving up a notch, but not all the way to bling. Maybe 
cartridge bearings and lower weight would be fun to play with, and...
 
The bikehubstore.com seems to have a fine reputation for selling good stuff 
and providing good service. All that said, if you don't care about weight 
and mostly about utility, then I think you won't experience any level of 
disappointment with nearly anything from Shimanoand they are famous for 
not making that aggravating pawl click noise found in even the most 
expensive.
 
http://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/144.htm
 

On Monday, May 5, 2014 8:14:15 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Pricing out parts for my build, the cost difference in hubs between the 
 bling hubs and say Shimano hubs are pretty noticable.  A Chris King, Phil 
 Wood, et. al, are quite expensive, $350ish in the case of the Chris King, 
 $400+ in the case of the Phil.

 On the other hand, I found Tiagra 4600 rear hubs for as little as $24.45 
 online, and 105 5700 rear hubs for $43.45.  Now we all know that Shimano 
 hubs are loose ball bearing hubs, but in practice what is the functional 
 deficiency if the bearing preload is properly adjusted?  Some people seem 
 to think the 105 hub is better sealed than the Tiagra and if so would be 
 worth $19 to me.  But if not...?  Rivendell sells 105 5500 hubs on their 
 site, so they must not be that bad.

 To give some more background, I have a Chris King hub on a frame I was 
 planning on selling.  The plan was to re-use the CK hub on my new build. 
  Different wheel size, so I would need to start over with new rims and 
 spokes either way.  But if I could sell the CK for $200 or more, and 
 replace it with say a 105 or even a Deore hub, that would help me get my 
 build together faster.  The new frame is spaced 132.5 so can take 130 or 
 135.

 I also don't love the fact that the CK hub needs to be taken apart and 
 re-lubed yearly.  I had an issue before with the lube drying out and 
 causing the hub to be sticky on transition from pedaling to coasting when 
 my service interval was too long.  That being said, the polished silver CK 
 is a bit more aesthetically pleasing than the dull silver Shimano hubs.

 My main criteria is that the hub is sealed well against water intrusion 
 and rolls down the road easily.  Low maintenance is a plus.  A difference 
 in weight of 100 grams is not meaningful to me.  Bling is nice, but my 
 priority is function over form.  It does need to be silver, of course.

 Replacing the CK with a mid-priced cartridge bearing hub might be another 
 option.  The Velo Orange hubs look pretty nice.  I'm guessing they would 
 probably would require less maintenance than the CK hubs and if the 
 cartridge bearings are of good quality they would probably be well sealed.

 -Jim

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[RBW] Re: Attractive front derailers

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I am known to be somewhat anal about my aesthetics and my bikes. (Do the 
words anal and aesthetics belong in the same sentence?) However, I have not 
spent any anal energy ever concerned about the aesthetics of my front 
derailleur. If it is newish looking and mechanically sound, then that is 
good enough for me. 28.6 fronts have joined the Dodo bird pretty much. 
Shimano supplies shims that will usually make the big ones fit on small 
tubes. Hate the shims.
On Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:49:53 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I need to buy a front derailer for my build that's going on.  I was 
 willing to do an ugly derailer in the back because it was already on hand. 
  I'll switch it out later as budget allows.  However, if I'm going to buy 
 the front, I would prefer that it was attractive.

 The first problem though was wading through the list of terms that go 
 along with front derailers.  Top pull, bottom pull, dual pull, top swing, 
 bottom swing, traditional, etc, etc.

 So I found these SRAM x9 derailers that are all silver.  However, they are 
 not available in 28.6, only 31.8.  Is this workable with a shim?


 http://www.ebikestop.com/sram_x9_bottom_pull_318mm_3_speed_traditional_front_derailleur-FD4604.php


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[RBW] Re: 10 speed conundrum(s)

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My 3 road bikes use Ultegra 6603 sti shifters, 34 tooth 10 speed cassettes, 
and 9 speed long cage Shimano mt derailleurs...like a charm.
On Friday, April 25, 2014 8:41:09 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I'm building up a new frame, and trying to keep it a secret, at least, 
 until I thin the herd.  So I was thinking I would re-use, scavenge or just 
 get parts out of my box of odds and ends, as much as I can.

 So I have these 10 speed Ultegra 6700 brifters that I got a while back for 
 a stupid cheap price.  Literally, less than the cost of 10 speed bar ends.  
 They were a takeoff from a brand new bike who's owner's hands were too 
 small and she switched to SRAM.  So they are practically brand new.  I 
 figure, I may as well use them for a while, that way I don't have to go 
 drop $100 on a new pair of 9/8/whatever speed bar ends.

 The issue is though, I wanted to use a cassette with a 34 big ring.  It 
 seems that 10 speed MTB Shimano derailers are not compatible with 10 speed 
 Shimano road shifters.  I don't know why this would be.  I see all the 10 
 speed MTB stuff is labeled DynaSys

 I do have a 9 speed Shimano MTB derailer, model M-592, that I do have 
 lying around and I have found postings out there on the Internet that say 9 
 speed Shimano MTB derailers should work fine for shifting a road 10 speed 
 setup.  Of course, you know what they say about stuff you find on the 
 Internet.  The derailer is super ugly and Transformers looking, but just to 
 get me going for now if it would work, that would be great.

 Then, considering other compatibility issues, what about the 10 speed 
 cassettes?  Is the spacing different between 10 speed road and 10 speed 
 Mountain?  What about SRAM cassettes in 10 speed, are they compatible with 
 Shimano road 10 or is that something else altogether?

 Lastly, what about chains?  Shimano seems to have some weird 10 speed 
 chains that are directional and so forth.  Is that really necessary or can 
 I just use a SRAM (10 speed) chain like I have in the past?  (or KMC, etc).

 I suppose I could circumvent some of these issues by just using a Tiagra 
 4600 12-30 with a Tiagra long cage, that should work for sure.  But I 
 wanted a few more teeth on that big cog.

 Well anyway, any knowledge on this subject appreciated.  I liked it better 
 when all the Shimano compatible gear more or less worked together.  I can 
 see why people resist going to 10 speed, they put all kinds of obstacles in 
 your way to run a Rivvy drivetrain.

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[RBW] Want to buy: Folding bead 35mm smooth tires

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Ready to give fatties a try. Wondering if you have a pair of some good ones 
for sale = Cypres, Kojak, Brown?
 
I can buy them new, but think someone might have a couple of good ones at a 
fine price right here.

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[RBW] Re: Want to buy: Folding bead 35mm smooth tires

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Looking for 700c, Thanks.

On Friday, April 25, 2014 6:42:02 AM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:

 Ready to give fatties a try. Wondering if you have a pair of some good 
 ones for sale = Cypres, Kojak, Brown?
  
 I can buy them new, but think someone might have a couple of good ones at 
 a fine price right here.


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[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

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No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of 
comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel 
(Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group 
about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better 
through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that 
often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? 
 
I did 4000 ft in 40 miles yesterday and chose to do it on a Specialized 
Roubaix. Oh what fun it is.
On Friday, April 18, 2014 10:31:22 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:


 I'm talking ride quality only, not function.
 Don't blow a gasket until you read this post in full.

 Steel, carbon, Alu, Ti, Rando-lite frames, etc.

 I just saw a RAAM documentary. Actually I have watched three of them.
 Those guys are mostly carbon, skinny tires, with bars waaay low, yet they 
 do hundreds of miles a day, culminating in a 3,000 mile race finish in less 
 than 10 days. You gotta be comfy on your bike to a certain degree to 
 survive a 3,000 mile ride in 10 days or less. You can't really argue with 
 that. Yeah, they are athletes,and suffer, but read on...

 I'm starting to think that no frame material is better than another when 
 at the higher quality levels and craftsmanship. And I think RAAM blows it 
 all outta the water. RAAM has been ridden on just about everything I would 
 think. I don't think these people are dummies, and I am sure they have done 
 their homework to find what suits their needs. I think it's just preference 
 at that point. I don't know that Jure Robic (5-time RAAM winner) would have 
 done any better, or felt any better, on a Herse, Scott, Lightspeed, or 
 Roadeo. Someone once asked him how his behind felt during RAAM, and he 
 stuck his fingers in his mouth imitating a gun. I don't think that would 
 have changed no matter what he was riding (and it looked like a studded 
 leather saddle in the documentary I saw).

 Now function is another thing altogether.  You want braze-ons and wide 
 tires and clearance, approach a steel frame builder for sure.

 I needed to ride through mud and gravel to continue on my way today and I 
 was glad I was on my fender-ed Rivbike with 42 mm tires and not on a 25mm 
 tire-ed race bike.

 I'm not going to touch safety and lifetime issues of materials. The battle 
 rages.

 Anyway, since I got my head out of carbon, and have been reading a lot 
 about steel, I have been wondering. Because everyone seems to love their 
 quality bikes, no matter what the material is.



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[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

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I have one carbon, one titanium, one steel with carbon fork, one steel with 
steel fork. Each has a slightly different ride personality but all get me 
there at about the same time. Given one, I'd choose titanium in one second.
On Friday, April 18, 2014 10:31:22 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:


 I'm talking ride quality only, not function.
 Don't blow a gasket until you read this post in full.

 Steel, carbon, Alu, Ti, Rando-lite frames, etc.

 I just saw a RAAM documentary. Actually I have watched three of them.
 Those guys are mostly carbon, skinny tires, with bars waaay low, yet they 
 do hundreds of miles a day, culminating in a 3,000 mile race finish in less 
 than 10 days. You gotta be comfy on your bike to a certain degree to 
 survive a 3,000 mile ride in 10 days or less. You can't really argue with 
 that. Yeah, they are athletes,and suffer, but read on...

 I'm starting to think that no frame material is better than another when 
 at the higher quality levels and craftsmanship. And I think RAAM blows it 
 all outta the water. RAAM has been ridden on just about everything I would 
 think. I don't think these people are dummies, and I am sure they have done 
 their homework to find what suits their needs. I think it's just preference 
 at that point. I don't know that Jure Robic (5-time RAAM winner) would have 
 done any better, or felt any better, on a Herse, Scott, Lightspeed, or 
 Roadeo. Someone once asked him how his behind felt during RAAM, and he 
 stuck his fingers in his mouth imitating a gun. I don't think that would 
 have changed no matter what he was riding (and it looked like a studded 
 leather saddle in the documentary I saw).

 Now function is another thing altogether.  You want braze-ons and wide 
 tires and clearance, approach a steel frame builder for sure.

 I needed to ride through mud and gravel to continue on my way today and I 
 was glad I was on my fender-ed Rivbike with 42 mm tires and not on a 25mm 
 tire-ed race bike.

 I'm not going to touch safety and lifetime issues of materials. The battle 
 rages.

 Anyway, since I got my head out of carbon, and have been reading a lot 
 about steel, I have been wondering. Because everyone seems to love their 
 quality bikes, no matter what the material is.



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[RBW] Re: FS: Albatross bars, shims, Shimano 9 bar end shfiters, Brooks B17 standard honey with cover and VO saddle goo

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all parts, including shims, now sold.
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:20:34 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:

 Albatross bars, cromo, 25.4, nice used, a couple of marks. $45 shipped.
 Brooks B17 standard honey brown, nice used, no nicks or gouges, includes 
 new Brooks nylon cover, and barely touched tub of VO saddle goo. $75 
 shipped.
 Shimano 9 bar end shifters, used with some scratches on outside edges of 
 pods, $55 shipped.
  
 I also have shims:
 one set to fit 25.4 bars with 26.0 stem. 
 another set to fit 25.4 with 31.8 stem. $5 each set shipped.
  
  


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[RBW] FS: Albatross bars, shims, Shimano 9 bar end shfiters, Brooks B17 standard honey with cover and VO saddle goo

[eflayer]

Albatross bars, cromo, 25.4, nice used, a couple of marks. $45 shipped.
Brooks B17 standard honey brown, nice used, no nicks or gouges, includes 
new Brooks nylon cover, and barely touched tub of VO saddle goo. $75 
shipped.
Shimano 9 bar end shifters, used with some scratches on outside edges of 
pods, $55 shipped.
 
I also have shims:
one set to fit 25.4 bars with 26.0 stem. 
another set to fit 25.4 with 31.8 stem. $5 each set shipped.
 
 

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[RBW] Re: FS pricing assistance SS couplers

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As far as I know the least expensive custom steel with couplers is 
available from Doug Curtiss at Curtlo Cycles = $1400 for filleted frame, no 
fork. I have one.
 
Some may be attracted to the lugs, some might not care since this will 
likely not be too much about aesthetics. One third of the battle is 
purchasing the SS hard case. If you can add that to the package then the 
deal may be more attractive.
 
Since this is not a purist bike any more I think the two forks make for a 
fun option. 
 
I say maybe $1500, but who knows.
 
Good luck with the sale.

On Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:50:08 AM UTC-7, bozemanmartin wrote:

 Greetings!
 Please reply with your opinion of what I should list my wife's 2004 56cm 
 Romulus for.
 I've spent a fair bit on this bike installing SS couplers and powdercoat 
 finish.
 The Good:
 piloted by 150lb rider. never crashed.
 SS couplers installed by Carl Strong
 Powdercoat refinish by Spectrum Powderworks
 WoundUp carbon fork *and* original steel fork
 All components upgraded over the years except crankarms, headset and brake 
 calipers.
 *New* Conti Gatorskin 700x25 tires
 The Less Good:
 Framesaver threaded insert installed at derailleur hanger.  Works great, 
 but worth disclosing.

 Thanks for your opinions,

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[RBW] Re: FS pricing assistance SS couplers

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I bought, rode, and resold this one a couple of years ago. Bought as 
frameset with case. I resold it locally as full blown build with case:
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/coupled$20rambouillet/rbw-owners-bunch/Bvw7ILdvcH8/pAUoyLOYgfcJ
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:50:08 AM UTC-7, bozemanmartin wrote:

 Greetings!
 Please reply with your opinion of what I should list my wife's 2004 56cm 
 Romulus for.
 I've spent a fair bit on this bike installing SS couplers and powdercoat 
 finish.
 The Good:
 piloted by 150lb rider. never crashed.
 SS couplers installed by Carl Strong
 Powdercoat refinish by Spectrum Powderworks
 WoundUp carbon fork *and* original steel fork
 All components upgraded over the years except crankarms, headset and brake 
 calipers.
 *New* Conti Gatorskin 700x25 tires
 The Less Good:
 Framesaver threaded insert installed at derailleur hanger.  Works great, 
 but worth disclosing.

 Thanks for your opinions,

 Martin


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[RBW] FS: Showers Pass Elite 2.0, mens, black, size Large, and Showers Pass hood

[eflayer]

A great rain jacket. Showers Pass Elite 2.0, mens, black, size Large, and 
Showers Pass hood that velcros onto jacket. This jacket is in very nice 
condition with no rips or tears or visible marks. All zippers are in top 
condition and the jacket is clean and maybe has been hand washed 2 or 3 
times. Material is still sturdy and does not feel at all thinned out due to 
being washed and worn a zillion times.

I live in CA so not too much rain cycling here so jacket worn mostly on a 
few multiple day tours outside the country.
Check my perfect feedback and ask as many questions as you need to make an 
informed buying decision.
 
$110 shipped.

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[RBW] FS: Showers Pass Elite 2.0, mens, black, size Large, and Showers Pass hood

[eflayer]

Showers Pass Elite 2.0, mens, black, size Large, and Showers Pass hood that 
velcros onto jacket.
 

Showers Pass Elite 2.0, mens, black, size Large, and Showers Pass hood that 
velcros onto jacket. This jacket is in very nice condition with no rips or 
tears or visible marks. All zippers are in top condition and the jacket is 
clean and maybe has been hand washed 2 or 3 times. Material is still sturdy 
and does not feel at all thinned out due to being washed and worn a zillion 
times.

I live in CA so not too much rain cycling here so jacket worn mostly on a 
few multiple day tours outside the country.

$110 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Sugino triple crankset w/ Shimano brifters: anyone using this combination?

[eflayer]

Don't forget about front derailleur...depending on what you have had 
before. Some would suggest shimano mt front derailleurs are not compat.with 
road shifters, so a road front derailleur should work best. I have done 
Shimano brifters with Sugino triples many times.
 
If not Sugino, then move up to Shimano 105 triple and the world of 
Hollowtech outboard bearings = best invention almost ever.
On Friday, March 28, 2014 6:19:28 PM UTC-7, Joan wrote:

  I want to set up a bike using 9-speed triple Shimano brifters and a 
 triple crank.  I like the chainring set up of Sugino cranks (and I also 
 like the way they look).  From internet searching, it does appear that the 
 Sugino chainrings are ramped  pinned, which is needed to make then 
 compatible with the Shimano brifters.  But I thought I'd ask for real world 
 experience before I go further with the project.  

 And if not Sugino, then I'd like to hear what ever other experience anyone 
 has had.
 Thanks!
 Joan
 PS - I have until Tuesday to use my special birthday discount at Riv - 
 haven't yet decided on an item to purchase.


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[RBW] Re: New Albion on SF CL?

[eflayer]

I think he might do bike builds for people he knows. Not sure if he does 
this as a favor or he is paid to do it...or both.
 
Think he built it to check it out, not so much to make it a daily driver. 
Apparently, it is not destined to be in his collection.
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:50:59 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Didn't these just come out? And here we have a brand new one up for sale 
 already on SF CL. Like to know the story behind this quick turn around.

 ~Hugh


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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano Deore LX RD-T661 SGS MTB Rear Derailleur 9-speed

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On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 5:23:29 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

 Riv used to sell these, but are now few and far between. I have had one of 
 these stashed in a drawer for a while. Think I was attracted as it is an 
 all silver look. It was installed once, but never ridden as I believe I 
 changed my mind to use a shorter cage at the time. No grease or grime, but 
 a couple of small, tiny nicks from being in the drawer. At least a 9.5 out 
 of 10 condition rating.
  
 Like this:
  

 http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/shimano-rd-t661-deore-lx-top-normal-standard-rear-derailleur-sgs-prod18155/?geoc=us
  
 $60 shipped.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano Deore LX RD-T661 SGS MTB Rear Derailleur 9-speed

[eflayer]

sold.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 5:23:29 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

 Riv used to sell these, but are now few and far between. I have had one of 
 these stashed in a drawer for a while. Think I was attracted as it is an 
 all silver look. It was installed once, but never ridden as I believe I 
 changed my mind to use a shorter cage at the time. No grease or grime, but 
 a couple of small, tiny nicks from being in the drawer. At least a 9.5 out 
 of 10 condition rating.
  
 Like this:
  

 http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/shimano-rd-t661-deore-lx-top-normal-standard-rear-derailleur-sgs-prod18155/?geoc=us
  
 $60 shipped.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano Deore LX RD-T661 SGS MTB Rear Derailleur 9-speed

[eflayer]

price lowered.
 
$50 shipped.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 5:23:29 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

 Riv used to sell these, but are now few and far between. I have had one of 
 these stashed in a drawer for a while. Think I was attracted as it is an 
 all silver look. It was installed once, but never ridden as I believe I 
 changed my mind to use a shorter cage at the time. No grease or grime, but 
 a couple of small, tiny nicks from being in the drawer. At least a 9.5 out 
 of 10 condition rating.
  
 Like this:
  

 http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/shimano-rd-t661-deore-lx-top-normal-standard-rear-derailleur-sgs-prod18155/?geoc=us
  
 $60 shipped.


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[RBW] Riding Albatross compared to drops

[eflayer]

So I got the New Albion Privateer completely dialed in with Alba bars and 
have done about 50 miles. My other bikes all have drop bars and are all 
meant for fastish club-type riding = no baggage. The more upright Alba 
riding position is a new sensation and I was wondering how climbing and 
descending would come off. And both are like a whole new experience. For 
climbing I am staying in the saddle more and definitely use more leg power. 
And noticed when push comes to shove, I can get on the fronts of the 
bars and stand up on the pedals to get even more power. Descending is 
another whole story since the center of gravity seems up there compared to 
riding leant over on drops; tops or bottoms. I think the Privateer with 
Albas will be a great addition to bring some diversity to the stable.

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[RBW] FS: Shimano Deore LX RD-T661 SGS MTB Rear Derailleur 9-speed

[eflayer]

Riv used to sell these, but are now few and far between. I have had one of 
these stashed in a drawer for a while. Think I was attracted as it is an 
all silver look. It was installed once, but never ridden as I believe I 
changed my mind to use a shorter cage at the time. No grease or grime, but 
a couple of small, tiny nicks from being in the drawer. At least a 9.5 out 
of 10 condition rating.
 
Like this:
 
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/shimano-rd-t661-deore-lx-top-normal-standard-rear-derailleur-sgs-prod18155/?geoc=us
 
$60 shipped.

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[RBW] Re: New Albion Privateer - not the best face yet, but getting there

[eflayer]

Rode the Privateer about 20 miles today. It seems similar or better in 
terms of overall riding experience to my Rambouillets, Bleriots, and Gunnar 
Sport. I'd bet if you could ride it blindfolded and the others too, you'd 
be hard pressed to pick a winner. Now I know about lugs and aesthetics and 
their value and their cost. This one, in my opinion, spells big big bang 
for the bucks. It looks good too.
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:26:46 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

 Came out of the carton looking good. Built up well. Post modern combo of 
 parts. It is raining today, but I got in a short ride. While this thing 
 weighs about the same at 25 lbs as the Cannondale I discussed a few weeks 
 ago, it rides like sveltish upright cruiser. I am pleasantly surprised by 
 the nice steel springiness.
 Albatross
 Thomson X4 stem
 Tiagra Hollowtech triple crank
 11-34 XT 9 cassette
 28 hole, Ultegra Open Pro
 700 x 25 tires (for now)
 VO post
 B17 saddle
 Tektro 720 cantis
 Bacchetta brake levers left over from bent days
 Shimano 9 speed barcons
 Wellgo dual purpose pedals


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[RBW] FS: Nitto Technomic 26.0, 130 mm

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This was part of the Alba/mt bike fit experiment. It is used, has a number 
of not deep surface blems, but pretty decent above the min line. Not for 
your show bike, but good for your commuter or for your own fitting 
experiment.
 
130 mm is pretty few and far between.
 
$30 shipped.

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[RBW] taping bars: has anyone wrapped cloth tape over a layer of cork?

[eflayer]

thought maybe a good way to get the best of both worlds.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic 26.0, 100 mm, new in package

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sold
On Friday, January 24, 2014 6:47:12 AM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

 This an extra from my Albatross fitting process. $45 shipped. I prefer 
 paypal gift option, or you can add in paypal fees if you think gift is 
 cheating the man.


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