[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 32R rear rack

[jjss]

The medium ones have the little loop-like thing right above the bottom 
attachment point.  If you look on the riv site you can compare the two and 
you'll see the difference.  

If yours is the medium, will you report back?  I might be in the market for 
a second one depending on the price.  thanks!!

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 4:10:36 PM UTC-7, Nathan Lee wrote:
>
> Curious how one can tell if it's a medium or not?
>
> I have an old one sitting in my parts bin I'm willing to sell off. 
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:27:08 PM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm scoping for one of the MED Nitto 32R rear racks, as per below.
>> Drop me a line if you have one to spare.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kieran
>> Toronto, Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto 32R rear rack

[jjss]

I was going to bid on that but then one popped up for slightly cheaper.  I 
communicated with the guy and I happen to know that he has it set up to 
auto-accept an offer of $135!  Hope that helps.

On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 12:40:36 PM UTC-7, Dave Small wrote:
>
> There's one on eBay now that looks medium to me:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Campee-Rear-Bike-Rack-/202004571051?
>
> This is the second auction he's posted for it; the first closed with a 
> $135 opener and no bids, so he relisted it at $175.  Go figure.  
>
> Dave
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M-13 (Wide) Front Rack - $70

[jjss]

Do you know if this would fit a 51cm Atlantis w/ 26 inch wheels?  Thanks!

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:19:13 AM UTC-7, Irving wrote:
>
> Clearing the parts bin and this is one of the few items remaining!
>
> Nitto M-13 Wide Rack 
> 
>  - $70 shipped
>
> Looks pretty much like the Compass M-13 
> ,
>  
> I think it was made for Grand Bois previously. You can find more details 
> about it here 
> 
> .
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[jjss]

Thanks for the great replies.  To be clear, I changed the front setup to match 
the default Sugino w/ the guard that Riv sell.  The big chain ring is 40T.

I'm hearing to have my bike shop check chain tension and alignment but that I 
don't need a different der.  Sound about right?  

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

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Is there a pic of the setup you are recommending?  Not sure I'm getting exactly 
what you are describing.  Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[jjss]

Hey all,

Though I'd post an update w/ some pics of the rebuilt bike and 2 questions 
for the group.  

Overall I'm loving the feel of the albatross bars and the general rebuild.

Questions:

1.  I'm getting a lot of chain suck and chain falling off in the front if I 
shift quickly.  My bike shop said the mountain triple der. might need to 
go.   Any thoughts on how to fix this?

2.  They built is with the CrMo Albatross bars and I had sort of wanted the 
Aluminum.  I've read on the forum but can't find anything definitive.  Is 
this worth switching out?  I'm willing the pay the extra $$ and the idea of 
something stronger or better looking sounds good but I'm not finding much 
to say that it's really worth it.  Thoughts?

Any other suggestion for tweaks?  

Thanks!


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On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:16:00 AM UTC-7, jjss wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> I'm about to rebuild my Atlantis as more of a cruiser partly so I can use 
> it for more of a cruising around bike and partly b/c my girlfriend will 
> ride it and I think she might like this configuration better since she's 
> not a big rider.  I'm attaching a pic of my current configuration which has 
> served me well for quite a while  in New York City and LA.  It's a clear 
> coat over the frame.  One of the early ones that riv did like this, I 
> believe.
>
> I'm going to list my plans below w/ questions and I'd love any good 
> spirited ideas for how to improve on my plans.  Interested and both 
> functional and aesthetic input!  Thanks so much!!
>
>
>- Change Bars to Choco Norm bars.
>   - Which orientation should i use?
>   - Any reason not to go with these?
>
>
>- Replace shifter with Silver Shifters
>   - I've just always wanted these.  Was thinking of using thumbies 
>   but I'm a sucker for the simplicity of barends.
>- Need new brake levers
>   - Probably will go with the silver shimano mtb levers.  Anyone have 
>a strong recommendation for how to improve on this choice?  
>- New cabling  (
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-metallic-braid-derailleur-cable-kits.html
>)
>   - thought this stuff looked pretty slick.  Any reason not to go 
>   with it?  Other suggestions?
>- New Skewers
>   - As long as I'm making changes I want get some silver ones. 
>Anybody got a recommendation for some cool ones to buy, new or old 
> that 
>   will go with the overall bike?
>- New Cranks etc
>   - Hoping for something to protect the pant legs from grease since 
>   this will be used for tooling around
>   - Was going to go with these:  
>   
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/cranks-bbs/products/sugino-xd2-wide-low-double-crank-40t-x-26t
>   - Anything else I should thing about here?
>- New Grips
>   - Need grips for the new bars. really don't know what to do here.
>   - Any reason not to go with these in Gum: 
>   
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html
>
>   - My local bike store loves these:  
>   https://www.amazon.com/ESI-Grips-MTB-COL-Chunky-Grip/dp/B00554FMUY
>   - anything else I should look at?
>- Coating / paint
>   - I love the clear coat but I'm buy the beach and I've seen some 
>   bits of rust turn up.
>   - Anyone know if there some kind of spray clear coat that I can use 
>   to give it a once-over?  Just want to seal it up and I like the rough 
>   looking finish.
>
> Any other cool ideas?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[jjss]

I just called Riv and they do seem to say that the Chocos come back about 
3cm more than the Albatross which is pretty significant.  I am tempted to 
go Map, but I really wanted that swept back / upright feel and I don't love 
the curviness of the Albatross.  I prefer the lines of the Choco.  Maybe 
it'll have to Albatross anyway...  Thanks for al the great input!

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 7:45:44 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Maybe ease into it. I suppose the transition to full super upright would 
> look like noodles-albastache-map/ahearn-albatross-choco-bosco.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[jjss]

Ugh!  Now I'm really starting to worry that I need to rethink.  I've always 
been happy w/ my hands just over my brakes on the noodles just at its set 
up in the picture.  Seems like the chocos might be too far back.  

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:18:35 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Choco bars come way way back. Further than albatross even. The map bar are 
> a good suggestion for an uprightish bar on a bike without a super long top 
> tube. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[jjss]

I curious to know if anyone has experimented with both these bars or the 
jinensha bars (are they exactly he same?) and the Choco-norm bars and have 
a sense of how the would compare.  The Chocos would just be even more 
upright?

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 11:53:56 AM UTC-7, gordo wrote:
>
> I second Justin's suggestion of the MAP/Ahearne bars.  I'm running them on 
> my cruiser-ish Atlantis with Paul thumbies and they are perfect for 
> commuting, rambles and short overnighters.  It also makes handling a 
> typically overloaded front rack/basket very easy.
>
> - Eric in SF
>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 9:43:27 AM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>
>> Not to over judge your plan BUT...
>> If you are building this up to be a "cruiser-ish" ride that your partner 
>> can use on the weekends, I would not build your second bike to go "faster" 
>> if you plan to ride together. It sounds like you ride more than they do. I 
>> have found that you may be on the end of some bad feelings and reluctance 
>> to ride if the plan is to ride these bikes together. Only speaking from my 
>> experience but it's something to think about!
>>
>> Another option is to think about the MAP/Ahearne bar. I have it on my 
>> Saluki and my wife's Betty Foy. It's cruiser-ish enough to go slow and 
>> aggressive enough to dig in and go hard (and even offload!) when needed.
>>
>> -Justin, happily cycling with his partner in Oakland, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 8:02:27 AM UTC-7, jjss wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha.  Fair enough...  Realistically I will still ride it more than her. 
>>>  I'm moving by the beach so I want this set up as my day to day commuter 
>>> and grocery bike that she can then ride on the weekends.  B/c I'll probably 
>>> be figuring out another bike for myself with a "faster" setup, I like the 
>>> idea of pushing this in the choco norm / albatross direction.  
>>>
>>> Fair point about the shifting but I figure if all she ever knows is 
>>> friction...  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:32:36 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, I think you really need to decide who you are doing this for 
>>>> first, because you say you GF is going to ride it, But seem to be making 
>>>> choices based on what YOU like!?
>>>> If it was for you I would second the Albastache recommendation, but if 
>>>> it's for the GF, I'd go Albatross.  I've had both on my Atlantis and while 
>>>> I prefer the stache, but if it was for someone who apparently does not 
>>>> ride 
>>>> a lot the Albatross would be better. 
>>>> Along those lines, Silver shifters are great, but honestly some sort of 
>>>> index shifter option might be better, depends a little on the GF.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[jjss]

Ha.  Fair enough...  Realistically I will still ride it more than her.  I'm 
moving by the beach so I want this set up as my day to day commuter and 
grocery bike that she can then ride on the weekends.  B/c I'll probably be 
figuring out another bike for myself with a "faster" setup, I like the idea 
of pushing this in the choco norm / albatross direction.  

Fair point about the shifting but I figure if all she ever knows is 
friction...  

On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:32:36 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>
> Well, I think you really need to decide who you are doing this for first, 
> because you say you GF is going to ride it, But seem to be making choices 
> based on what YOU like!?
> If it was for you I would second the Albastache recommendation, but if 
> it's for the GF, I'd go Albatross.  I've had both on my Atlantis and while 
> I prefer the stache, but if it was for someone who apparently does not ride 
> a lot the Albatross would be better. 
> Along those lines, Silver shifters are great, but honestly some sort of 
> index shifter option might be better, depends a little on the GF.

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Rebuild Ideas

[jjss]

Thanks for the great replies!  

As I think about it and talk to a few folks I do keep hearing arguments 
against the bar ends on this setup.  So now the next question is, if I go 
with thumb shifters, what should I get?

If I'm most interested in the best function and happy with friction, what 
would folks suggest?  Silvershifters on the Paul mounts?  IRD?  Microshift? 
 I like the idea of being able to shift the back to index but I care most 
about super smooth action and functionality on the upright bars.  

Thanks!

On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 1:34:46 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> Couple of thoughts:
>
> Think again about thumbies.  On upright / flat bars, IME, thumbies are 
> more natural & intuitive.  Another consideration is the sticking out bar 
> ends get in the way sometimes.  You can check to see if Paul's thumbie 
> adapters will work with Silvers but they work with the levers for Shimano 
> bar ends.  
>
> Check out Ergon's line of handlebar grips.  The basic GP-1 is great for 
> casual riding:
>
> http://www.ergon-bike.com/en/product.html?a=griffe
>
> About $30 at REI & maybe less somewhere on Amazon.  Have used these for 
> years & love 'em.  Comfort is king.
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 8:16:00 AM UTC-7, jjss wrote:
>>
>> Hey all!
>>
>> I'm about to rebuild my Atlantis as more of a cruiser partly so I can use 
>> it for more of a cruising around bike and partly b/c my girlfriend will 
>> ride it and I think she might like this configuration better since she's 
>> not a big rider.  I'm attaching a pic of my current configuration which has 
>> served me well for quite a while  in New York City and LA.  It's a clear 
>> coat over the frame.  One of the early ones that riv did like this, I 
>> believe.
>>
>> I'm going to list my plans below w/ questions and I'd love any good 
>> spirited ideas for how to improve on my plans.  Interested and both 
>> functional and aesthetic input!  Thanks so much!!
>>
>>
>>- Change Bars to Choco Norm bars.
>>   - Which orientation should i use?
>>   - Any reason not to go with these?
>>
>>
>>- Replace shifter with Silver Shifters
>>   - I've just always wanted these.  Was thinking of using thumbies 
>>   but I'm a sucker for the simplicity of barends.
>>- Need new brake levers
>>   - Probably will go with the silver shimano mtb levers.  Anyone 
>>   have  a strong recommendation for how to improve on this choice?  
>>- New cabling  (
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-metallic-braid-derailleur-cable-kits.html
>>)
>>   - thought this stuff looked pretty slick.  Any reason not to go 
>>   with it?  Other suggestions?
>>- New Skewers
>>   - As long as I'm making changes I want get some silver ones. 
>>Anybody got a recommendation for some cool ones to buy, new or old 
>> that 
>>   will go with the overall bike?
>>- New Cranks etc
>>   - Hoping for something to protect the pant legs from grease since 
>>   this will be used for tooling around
>>   - Was going to go with these:  
>>   
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/cranks-bbs/products/sugino-xd2-wide-low-double-crank-40t-x-26t
>>   - Anything else I should thing about here?
>>- New Grips
>>   - Need grips for the new bars. really don't know what to do here.
>>   - Any reason not to go with these in Gum: 
>>   
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html
>>
>>   - My local bike store loves these:  
>>   https://www.amazon.com/ESI-Grips-MTB-COL-Chunky-Grip/dp/B00554FMUY
>>   - anything else I should look at?
>>- Coating / paint
>>   - I love the clear coat but I'm buy the beach and I've seen some 
>>   bits of rust turn up.
>>   - Anyone know if there some kind of spray clear coat that I can 
>>   use to give it a once-over?  Just want to seal it up and I like the 
>> rough 
>>   looking finish.
>>
>> Any other cool ideas?
>>
>>

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