Re: [RBW] How to carry a Clem Jr on a Carrier designed For A Top Tube
Hey John, I thought about using one of those adapters but the the bike would have hung so low (I think) that there'd be a danger of grounding it out and ruining the wheels. I also thought about the tray style but that would have meant buying another rack and if I recall I saw very few, if any, that could accommodate the Clem's wheelbase. And they aren't cheap, and I am. Of course, anything can be made to fit but my current set up works so dandy that I have no reason to change it. Which is why I wanted to put this out to the group. A cheap Allen rack works a peach! Okay, a bit more than $100. I must have got mine on sale. https://allen.bike/products/deluxe-hitch-rack On Wed, May 29, 2024, 11:59 PM John Johnson wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > I have used a frame adapter before (something like this > > https://www.canyon.com/en-fr/gear/accessories/transport-and-travel/bike-transport/thule-bike-frame-adapter/10004231.html). > But if you don't want to worry about multiple connection points, I'd change > for a rack that the tires sit in rather than one where the bike is hung by > the frame. > > Cheers, > > John > On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 7:45:45 AM UTC+2 gds...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2024, 11:25 PM Gordon Stam wrote: >> >>> This may be a multi part post because when I'm get a message saying >>> "Your message is too long, etc." So I'm going the post the pictures in a >>> follow up. Maybe the pictures are too big? Anyway... >>> >>> Maybe this is not news but maybe it is. When I bought my Clem I also >>> ordered a rear carrier that fit into the receiver hitch on my car. I have a >>> spare tire mounted Allen carrier on a Jeep and liked it so I ordered the >>> Allen reciever model. They are pretty budget friendly at less than $100. >>> After I got the Clem built up I went to put on the carrier and, oops - >>> there's no top tupe to hang the bike from. Hmm, have to improvise. I tried >>> many configurations but the bike would always be top heavy and want to >>> pivot forward and lay more or less flat. That looked lousy and it was >>> lousy, reqiring lots of lashing to get it to stay put. Finally I hit on a >>> solution. >>> >>> The pictures explain it but what I do is position the one horizontal >>> support behind the seat tube and the other under the uppermost down tube. >>> The frame rests on little pivoting fixtures with nylon straps to hold it in >>> place. At this point the bike will still want to rotate forward, top >>> towards the car, especially if the front wheel is turned towards the car >>> (not so much if its turned the other way) so to prevent that - and this was >>> the "aha" moment - I use a Voile strap to fix the crank arm to the vertical >>> support, which I have padded. And now the bike is solid on the carrier; it >>> does not budge. Easy on, with a bit of lifting, and easy off. I use a seond >>> Voile strap to keep the front wheel from flopping around (I've sinced >>> turned the wheel toward the back of the car, which limits overhang on the >>> passenger side and also keeps the bike in place while you strap down the >>> crank arm). >>> >>> One bonus to this method is it keeps the bike up nice and high so no >>> worries about hitting it on the ground. Everything is high and tight, as >>> they say. >>> >>> Final note, the pump is at that screwy angle because then I don't have >>> to remove it when I load the bike. It looks sorta weird but I'm getting >>> used to it and I don't see it when I'm on the bike so who cares! It's held >>> in place with more Voile straps, of which there are 14 on the bike if you >>> count them all up. >>> >>> Pictures to follow, hopefully. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ed125256-6d11-435b-b7bd-542db38b7fccn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ed125256-6d11-435b-b7bd-542db38b7fccn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: [RBW] How to carry a Clem Jr on a Carrier designed For A Top Tube
Hi Gordon, I have used a frame adapter before (something like this https://www.canyon.com/en-fr/gear/accessories/transport-and-travel/bike-transport/thule-bike-frame-adapter/10004231.html). But if you don't want to worry about multiple connection points, I'd change for a rack that the tires sit in rather than one where the bike is hung by the frame. Cheers, John On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 7:45:45 AM UTC+2 gds...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024, 11:25 PM Gordon Stam wrote: > >> This may be a multi part post because when I'm get a message saying "Your >> message is too long, etc." So I'm going the post the pictures in a follow >> up. Maybe the pictures are too big? Anyway... >> >> Maybe this is not news but maybe it is. When I bought my Clem I also >> ordered a rear carrier that fit into the receiver hitch on my car. I have a >> spare tire mounted Allen carrier on a Jeep and liked it so I ordered the >> Allen reciever model. They are pretty budget friendly at less than $100. >> After I got the Clem built up I went to put on the carrier and, oops - >> there's no top tupe to hang the bike from. Hmm, have to improvise. I tried >> many configurations but the bike would always be top heavy and want to >> pivot forward and lay more or less flat. That looked lousy and it was >> lousy, reqiring lots of lashing to get it to stay put. Finally I hit on a >> solution. >> >> The pictures explain it but what I do is position the one horizontal >> support behind the seat tube and the other under the uppermost down tube. >> The frame rests on little pivoting fixtures with nylon straps to hold it in >> place. At this point the bike will still want to rotate forward, top >> towards the car, especially if the front wheel is turned towards the car >> (not so much if its turned the other way) so to prevent that - and this was >> the "aha" moment - I use a Voile strap to fix the crank arm to the vertical >> support, which I have padded. And now the bike is solid on the carrier; it >> does not budge. Easy on, with a bit of lifting, and easy off. I use a seond >> Voile strap to keep the front wheel from flopping around (I've sinced >> turned the wheel toward the back of the car, which limits overhang on the >> passenger side and also keeps the bike in place while you strap down the >> crank arm). >> >> One bonus to this method is it keeps the bike up nice and high so no >> worries about hitting it on the ground. Everything is high and tight, as >> they say. >> >> Final note, the pump is at that screwy angle because then I don't have to >> remove it when I load the bike. It looks sorta weird but I'm getting used >> to it and I don't see it when I'm on the bike so who cares! It's held in >> place with more Voile straps, of which there are 14 on the bike if you >> count them all up. >> >> Pictures to follow, hopefully. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ed125256-6d11-435b-b7bd-542db38b7fccn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ed125256-6d11-435b-b7bd-542db38b7fccn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8d6516e8-11b9-40d9-a245-0fb7bee9dea3n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] How to carry a Clem Jr on a Carrier designed For A Top Tube
This may be a multi part post because when I'm get a message saying "Your message is too long, etc." So I'm going the post the pictures in a follow up. Maybe the pictures are too big? Anyway... Maybe this is not news but maybe it is. When I bought my Clem I also ordered a rear carrier that fit into the receiver hitch on my car. I have a spare tire mounted Allen carrier on a Jeep and liked it so I ordered the Allen reciever model. They are pretty budget friendly at less than $100. After I got the Clem built up I went to put on the carrier and, oops - there's no top tupe to hang the bike from. Hmm, have to improvise. I tried many configurations but the bike would always be top heavy and want to pivot forward and lay more or less flat. That looked lousy and it was lousy, reqiring lots of lashing to get it to stay put. Finally I hit on a solution. The pictures explain it but what I do is position the one horizontal support behind the seat tube and the other under the uppermost down tube. The frame rests on little pivoting fixtures with nylon straps to hold it in place. At this point the bike will still want to rotate forward, top towards the car, especially if the front wheel is turned towards the car (not so much if its turned the other way) so to prevent that - and this was the "aha" moment - I use a Voile strap to fix the crank arm to the vertical support, which I have padded. And now the bike is solid on the carrier; it does not budge. Easy on, with a bit of lifting, and easy off. I use a seond Voile strap to keep the front wheel from flopping around (I've sinced turned the wheel toward the back of the car, which limits overhang on the passenger side and also keeps the bike in place while you strap down the crank arm). One bonus to this method is it keeps the bike up nice and high so no worries about hitting it on the ground. Everything is high and tight, as they say. Final note, the pump is at that screwy angle because then I don't have to remove it when I load the bike. It looks sorta weird but I'm getting used to it and I don't see it when I'm on the bike so who cares! It's held in place with more Voile straps, of which there are 14 on the bike if you count them all up. Pictures to follow, hopefully. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ed125256-6d11-435b-b7bd-542db38b7fccn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Clem L Build
Hey Franco, I have some extra parts off of my Clem that I would be more than willing to sell you. a silver Nitto Technomic stem - 100mm with bar clamp diameter of 25.4mm with a quill length of 225mm and a stem angle degree of -17. a stock front derailleur - Shimano XT . I would have to look up the model number tomorrow. That is it for now, until I can go out and look further into my parts drawers in my garage, tomorrow to help you out. Kim Hetzel. BTW, my Clem takes 122 links from two chains for my drivetrain of a 11-40T cassette, a 34T front chain ring and a Shimano Deore XT M592 long caged rear derailleur. On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 9:06:48 PM UTC-7 gds...@gmail.com wrote: > Yeah, mine's a 59cm. But you're right Richard, the smaller frames take the > 26.8 seatpost according to the Rivendell website. > > Speaking of which, I may have mention this before but I got my frame > without the seatpost and had to order one from Rivendell. The one I got > took a fair amount of sanding (actually a lot of sanding) to get it to fit. > Prior to that I was using a 27.2 with shims. > > Sanded seatpost. I finished with 1000 grit > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2024, 6:56 PM Richard Rose wrote: > >> Sorry Gordon, meant to say “Franco”. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2024, at 8:38 PM, Richard Rose wrote: >> >> Gordon, what size Clem? I think the seatpost is 26.8, not 29.8. I’ve >> made typos too - no biggie. >> Velomine has decent wheelsets for cheap. Mine are still straight & smooth >> (cliffhanger on Deore hubs) after almost 8,000 miles. I have an extra 26.8 >> Kalloy if your bike does not have one. >> Prior to getting my complete Clem I was considering a frame only / budget >> build. I actually was making plans to strip my old Trek MTB of its Shimano >> LX 3x7(9?) drivetrain & v brakes to get the Clem up & running for real >> cheap. Bikes like my old Trek can be found dirt cheap. Perhaps you could >> find something similar to steal parts from? >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 29, 2024, at 8:09 PM, Gordon Stam wrote: >> >> Make sure you get a seatpost with it. Its a 29.8 seatpost which is kind >> of an odd size. >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 5:42:45 PM UTC-6 fmri...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Ciao Everybody, >>> >>> About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian / >>> budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions! >>> >>> Appreciate you guys, >>> >>> Franco Rinaldi >>> c: 646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> >>> >>> -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e1e8bc5-d48b-4d5e-b7fa-3a396f593b6cn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e1e8bc5-d48b-4d5e-b7fa-3a396f593b6cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/C6DCA11A-65A2-4577-81DA-FCA433A3BF0A%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/C6DCA11A-65A2-4577-81DA-FCA433A3BF0A%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fe42ad02-6794-4482-b80c-ad115321ebf9n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My new Wired Magazine article about fat, supple tires
Great article; lots of good info. Really liked idea that the best bike is the one you love. Tom in Alexandria, VA On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:42:21 PM UTC-4 Joe Ray wrote: > Hi Gang, > > Along with being a Homer owner, my day job is as a journalist for Wired > magazine. My regular beat is kitchen equipment, but this past weekend I had > a story out about the glories of riding on fat, supple tires: > > > https://www.wired.com/story/fat-bike-tires-are-better-than-skinny-bike-tires/ > > In it, I interview Russ Roca of the A Path Less Pedaled Youtube channel > (and Sam Hillborne owner), Jan Heine of Bicycle Quarterly/Rene Herse, and > ace bike mechanic Steve Gadingan at Seattle's Bike Works. Of course, > Rivendell shows up in there, too. > > Turns out it was the most popular story on Wired for the holiday > weekend--we might be on to something! ;) > > I invite you to read it and would love to hear your thoughts. > > Cheers and happy riding! > > Joe > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6b515944-07e9-470d-9592-9bc63936c249n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
I have the ESI chunky grips I over the bar and shifter cable. Love them. My secret is I paid Keystone Bikes to put them on for me. :) I think they used compressed air. I chose the tan grips to match the head tube, and they sort-of match. I think next time I’ll match the grips to the bike frame. Ergon grips are my favorite but for this application with bar end shifters, I really like the ESI grips. Tim, Billy bars come wayy back, but the grip angle is superb. Roberta On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > I'd love to see photos of how you manage to get Ergon or ESI grips over > barcon shift cable housing. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:15:39 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: > >> I love my Ergon Bio Cork Grips on my Hunqa >> Max >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote: >> >>> Or like Brian said, Newbaum's over ESI's - YUM! >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:59:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote: >>> >>>> Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: >>>> >>>> In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise >>>> cheap and comfy! >>>> >>>> Rubber grips can get sticky over time. >>>> >>>> I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, >>>> cutting and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded >>>> Newbaum's similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy cushion, >>>> good style, plus easy bar-end installation. >>>> >>>> Patch in Oakland. >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6b116160-14dd-4f8c-bf54-9719db89f5c8n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet & Romulus. A visual comparison.
Cool! On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:05:05 PM UTC-6 notlaw...@gmail.com wrote: > The 63cm Romulus received a mild rebuild over the winter, and since I had > the tripod handy I decided to photograph and visually compare the two. The > Rambouillet is slightly smaller at 60cm. Similar builds and fit, the Ram is > set up for slightly faster efforts. > Both are an absolute pleasure to ride. Enjoy.[image: DSC_2126.jpeg] > [image: DSC_2124.jpeg] > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5da71ae9-e79f-4650-b735-ceeb27e1aab5n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Clem L Build
Sorry Gordon, meant to say “Franco”.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2024, at 8:38 PM, Richard Rose wrote:Gordon, what size Clem? I think the seatpost is 26.8, not 29.8. I’ve made typos too - no biggie.Velomine has decent wheelsets for cheap. Mine are still straight & smooth (cliffhanger on Deore hubs) after almost 8,000 miles. I have an extra 26.8 Kalloy if your bike does not have one.Prior to getting my complete Clem I was considering a frame only / budget build. I actually was making plans to strip my old Trek MTB of its Shimano LX 3x7(9?) drivetrain & v brakes to get the Clem up & running for real cheap. Bikes like my old Trek can be found dirt cheap. Perhaps you could find something similar to steal parts from?Sent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2024, at 8:09 PM, Gordon Stam wrote:Make sure you get a seatpost with it. Its a 29.8 seatpost which is kind of an odd size.On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 5:42:45 PM UTC-6 fmri...@gmail.com wrote:Ciao Everybody, About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian / budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions! Appreciate you guys, Franco Rinaldi c: 646.403.0661 -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e1e8bc5-d48b-4d5e-b7fa-3a396f593b6cn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/C6DCA11A-65A2-4577-81DA-FCA433A3BF0A%40gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Clem L Build
Something like this?Shimano Deore LX M550 Touring Bicycle Groupset MTB Gravel Bike Group Set Partsebay.comSent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2024, at 8:09 PM, Gordon Stam wrote:Make sure you get a seatpost with it. Its a 29.8 seatpost which is kind of an odd size.On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 5:42:45 PM UTC-6 fmri...@gmail.com wrote:Ciao Everybody, About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian / budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions! Appreciate you guys, Franco Rinaldi c: 646.403.0661 -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e1e8bc5-d48b-4d5e-b7fa-3a396f593b6cn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0A6F24B1-0D1E-4374-A8C5-86D1B931B9DF%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: My 53 Lugged Susie is for sale if there's any interest
Reduced the price to $2200, but now only selling "package 1" - decided to keep the wheels and dynamo set up. On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 8:43:16 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote: > Posted this on fb last night, but want to throw it in here as well. I > grabbed the Sergio Green sample we were sent before the full run arrived > per Will's email. Realize I don't need a bike like this. I'm 5'9" with an > 83PBH and saddle height in the photo is 72cm. > > *Package 1 costs $2435 and includes:* > Susie f/f/hs/bb > Silver wide/low crank (38/24, 173) > Deore M4100 10spd shifter > Silver2 thumbshifter+mount > Skeleton Key FD > M5120 Deore 10/11spd RD > M4100 11-42 cassette > Nitto faceplater (TIG version) 85mm/25.4 > Nitto Wavie bar > 57mm/2.25 Schwalbe G-ONE tires > > *Package 2 adds the wheels and dynamo lighting setup for $3200:* > 32h Velocity Quills rims > Sapim Race spokes > VO rear hub > Son Dlx Wide body front hub > BM Toplight rear light > Edelux front light > > Need your own seatpost, saddle, pedals, grips, brakes and levers. I can be > convinced to add these things in if there's any interest. (MKS, Paul, Nitto > etc.) > > If you only want the frame + some things, feel free to let me know and we > can work something out. > > Price does not include shipping. I won't know how much shipping is because > it depends on what goes in, but it will probably cost around ~$300 for the > complete and less for just the frame (no wheels). Free if you're local and > you want to pick it up at Rivendell HQ! > > > [image: calvin's susie.jpeg] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/55dbe290-7453-492c-84d9-cfd27fb8df86n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Clem L Build
Gordon, what size Clem? I think the seatpost is 26.8, not 29.8. I’ve made typos too - no biggie.Velomine has decent wheelsets for cheap. Mine are still straight & smooth (cliffhanger on Deore hubs) after almost 8,000 miles. I have an extra 26.8 Kalloy if your bike does not have one.Prior to getting my complete Clem I was considering a frame only / budget build. I actually was making plans to strip my old Trek MTB of its Shimano LX 3x7(9?) drivetrain & v brakes to get the Clem up & running for real cheap. Bikes like my old Trek can be found dirt cheap. Perhaps you could find something similar to steal parts from?Sent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2024, at 8:09 PM, Gordon Stam wrote:Make sure you get a seatpost with it. Its a 29.8 seatpost which is kind of an odd size.On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 5:42:45 PM UTC-6 fmri...@gmail.com wrote:Ciao Everybody, About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian / budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions! Appreciate you guys, Franco Rinaldi c: 646.403.0661 -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e1e8bc5-d48b-4d5e-b7fa-3a396f593b6cn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/D2D1E253-5CEE-4BF8-8C5C-19ACF982125A%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: Budget Clem L Build
Make sure you get a seatpost with it. Its a 29.8 seatpost which is kind of an odd size. On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 5:42:45 PM UTC-6 fmri...@gmail.com wrote: > Ciao Everybody, > > About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian / > budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions! > > Appreciate you guys, > > Franco Rinaldi > c: 646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> > > -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9e1e8bc5-d48b-4d5e-b7fa-3a396f593b6cn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: 11 Speed on Silver Crankset?
Can confirm it works with a KMC X11! On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 4:42:36 PM UTC-7 sebastian...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone successfully used a 11-spd chain on a silver wide-low crankset? > > The plan is use an 11-34 11spd cassette in the back paired with an 38/24 > silver crankset. > > The Riv website states the silver cranks are compatible with up to 10 > speed, but i am wondering if anyone can comment on 11 speed. > > Thanks! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d3518756-e719-4c1e-95f7-b8fe4599ec85n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Big Joe goes to Snowdonia
Back in the summer of 1995, I spent a good several days hiking around North Wales, including Snowdonia. It's such a beautiful part of the world, and exploring it on your Appaloosa must be amazing. Thanks for sharing! On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 5:23:26 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote: > Nicholas, what a magical landscape. Thanks for sharing the photos. Nicely > put together Joe Appa too! > > Best, > Rich in ATL > > On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 3:06:53 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote: > >> Fantastic shots! Thanks so much. Looks like a hoot! >> >> >> John >> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 2:28:08 AM UTC-7 Nicholas A wrote: >> >>> [image: IMG_9184.jpg] >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/23a56bf6-bf5a-426c-bfb7-8a856f2f83b4n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Budget Clem L Build
Ciao Everybody, About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian / budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions! Appreciate you guys, Franco Rinaldi c: 646.403.0661 -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/AB00F397-84D7-4B70-80EA-9393461B66D2%40gmail.com.
[RBW] 11 Speed on Silver Crankset?
Hello, Has anyone successfully used a 11-spd chain on a silver wide-low crankset? The plan is use an 11-34 11spd cassette in the back paired with an 38/24 silver crankset. The Riv website states the silver cranks are compatible with up to 10 speed, but i am wondering if anyone can comment on 11 speed. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7e2ff0c1-9424-416e-a877-84e59b52c0ean%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] My new Wired Magazine article about fat, supple tires
Hi Gang, Along with being a Homer owner, my day job is as a journalist for Wired magazine. My regular beat is kitchen equipment, but this past weekend I had a story out about the glories of riding on fat, supple tires: https://www.wired.com/story/fat-bike-tires-are-better-than-skinny-bike-tires/ In it, I interview Russ Roca of the A Path Less Pedaled Youtube channel (and Sam Hillborne owner), Jan Heine of Bicycle Quarterly/Rene Herse, and ace bike mechanic Steve Gadingan at Seattle's Bike Works. Of course, Rivendell shows up in there, too. Turns out it was the most popular story on Wired for the holiday weekend--we might be on to something! ;) I invite you to read it and would love to hear your thoughts. Cheers and happy riding! Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ac570f74-0f5c-4559-92be-ab444ce9739dn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
I’d build it yourself if you are mechanically inclined. It’s not that hard, especially these days with YouTube videos. Rivs are dead simple and don’t have proprietary parts or hydraulic disk brakes. I built my first bike in college using a book I picked up and I found it easy, but I too was already mechanically inclined from building RC cars and working on motorcycles. I wouldn’t start with wheel building, but the rest of it is a piece of cake. Buy a decent torque wrench and a Bottom bracket and cassette tool, some cable cutters. The rest of the stuff you can make like a chain whip and a headset press. It’s all on YouTube and is simple if you know how to use tools. The good thing about buying all these tools is that you need most of them to properly maintain the bike so it’s a good investment. On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:32 AM Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CADA0aDehPmwatnTUKopun2F7B4%2BR%3D5-H0gvnEnsrOcUutD3w7g%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Cockpit swap on my Sam
When I ride sweeps I need a different grip than I do with regular flat bars or I get terrible pain in the heel of my hand. The grips that work for my are the Bontrager ergonomic mtb grips or something like the really far Jones bar grips. I think you’ll be fine if you have something that’s a little bit fatter than regular mtb style grips. Of course, it also depends a lot on bar height. As your bar height increases, the pressure on the hands goes down quite a bit. On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 7:45 AM Tim Bantham wrote: > Once again I am considering a cockpit change for my Sam Hillborne. This > time I am going to upright Billie bars. For simplicity and cost savings I'm > keeping the current bar end shifters. I'm currently pondering grips. I love > the way cork grips look but find them to be too slippery. I've been happy > with Oury grips. I like the way they feel but I don't think they look as > good when you cut off the end to accommodate bar ends shifters. I've seen > the felt and twine DIY grips that Riv promotes but I don't think I have the > artistic ability and patience to recreate it. > > What am I missing? What grips are out there that look good, feel good and > work with bar ends? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c54761af-b8a2-4724-a645-27633a31867cn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c54761af-b8a2-4724-a645-27633a31867cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CADA0aDc3Q9aoysrbVh3ZjhP0z3j-NMeBAbVJOJ6%3Dh0ng7DsnCQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
So I'm in the same boat, I recently ordered my first Rivendell frame - a Sam. Over the winter I upgraded a bunch of parts on my Bianchi Castro Valley by myself, first time doing any work by myself on the bike. The parts I purchased and upgraded I did with the intention of moving them over to the Sam. I had fun doing the work on the Bianchi, and I learned a lot. I put on a new front derailleur, bottom bracket, 2x crankset (was 1x), pedals, albatross bar, bar end shifters, and brake levers. I'll be moving over as much as I can from the old bike. I don't think it'll be too bad, but we will see. The park tool YouTube site is where it's at! On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-4 mwill...@gmail.com wrote: > I vote DIY. Just do LOTS of research. YouTube and the mechanics section of > Bike Forums have served me well. I also have around a thousand dollars > worth of bike specific tools. You could probably save some money here or > there by “making” some of the tools (YouTube can show you how). But, just > know that there’s a lot more to assembling a bike than some think. For > instance, I recently got my lugged Susie, and used my fairly new derailleur > hanger adjustment gauge to check the hanger. It was off both vertically and > horizontally. It looked straight to my eye, but wasn’t. If you choose not > to do it yourself, I’d definitely vote Rivendell over local shop. They > would know that a 7 speed cassette with a 9 speed crank and a 10 speed > chain CAN work beautifully. When I asked my local shop (a Trek dealer) once > about chasing and facing a bottom bracket on a Surly Cross Check, they > seemed puzzled. So, I spent a few hundred dollars on the tool, watched some > videos, and did it myself. Turned out great. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 28, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Michael wrote: > > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8434067a-16db-4ad9-b361-6dca793ffddbn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18
Ha awesome meeting you Matt. Love that photo! Thanks so much for sharing, I don't keep social media on my phone so would have never seen it. Loved your Susie :) On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 9:25:18 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote: > Love all these photos. Thanks to all for sharing and posting routes. Might > just do the triple scoop in June. > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 6:09:54 PM UTC-7 Matthew Miller wrote: > >> Few more photos to share from the ride. Did Single w/cherry on top plus a >> little side quest on a Susie. Was a super fun event with great vibes all >> around. >> >> @Armand so nice to meet you! Attached a screenshot from a great photo >> Blue Lug crew snapped of u :) >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/31121591-a9a3-4cb9-b44a-21fc277a37c7n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: Bedrock Mountain Clogs Leather Size 13
And sold On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote: > I picked up a size 12 off the list this month from Tim to replace my too > large for me size 13s. > > I bought these brand new from Bedrock during their last run last Fall. In > good shape, some crank wear on the side (I mainly rode in these). There's a > faint mark on the top of one, I tried to capture in the pics. Soles are in > great shape. > > $100 shipped in USA > > Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFhFnM3bFmh1jMvKA > > Mike in Minneapolis > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/86b8be94-59b1-4885-a5ae-8b72dcfbbac7n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
Within that link that Maxcr shared there was a link to Grant's Blahg post on the topic of making grips. That really doesn't look to difficult and I likely have enough scraps laying around to try it out. Thanks all! On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:37:48 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > That thread shows and describes how they run their bar con shift cable > housing external to the grips. I was looking for how you were running your > shift cable housing internal to the grips. The OP didn't specifically ask > for "internal", I suppose. They just asked for "works with". :) > > That might actually be a cool product: a contemporary lock-on grip that > incorporates a passageway for bar con shift cable/housing. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:26:33 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: > >> I didn't but there's precedent: >> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/g9A7pxZGN5w/m/ChChYuXkAgAJ >> Max >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >>> I'd love to see photos of how you manage to get Ergon or ESI grips over >>> barcon shift cable housing. >>> >>> Bill Lindsay >>> El Cerrito, CA >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:15:39 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: >>> >>>> I love my Ergon Bio Cork Grips on my Hunqa >>>> Max >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote: >>>> >>>>> Or like Brian said, Newbaum's over ESI's - YUM! >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:59:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: >>>>>> >>>>>> In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise >>>>>> cheap and comfy! >>>>>> >>>>>> Rubber grips can get sticky over time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, >>>>>> cutting and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded >>>>>> Newbaum's similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy >>>>>> cushion, >>>>>> good style, plus easy bar-end installation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Patch in Oakland. >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/18528dec-4155-4272-b6a5-5ffecb69a953n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] FS: Bedrock Mountain Clogs Leather Size 13
I picked up a size 12 off the list this month from Tim to replace my too large for me size 13s. I bought these brand new from Bedrock during their last run last Fall. In good shape, some crank wear on the side (I mainly rode in these). There's a faint mark on the top of one, I tried to capture in the pics. Soles are in great shape. $100 shipped in USA Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFhFnM3bFmh1jMvKA Mike in Minneapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6eb80985-ce6d-4360-b1a8-3a8c9d89db6cn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Santa Cruz Randonneurs 400k ride report
fore fighting the wind. >> >> The wind was not as bad as we feared and after about an hour and half of >> not too crazy wind (we were going about 10-11 mph), the sun set and the >> wind died down to a very tolerable level (easy for me to say, because at >> this point I was drafting most of the time!). >> >> We worked our way through Marina and then back to Santa Cruz for the >> finish after a little over 21 hours. Many thanks to Ioannis for his great >> company and willingness to ride with me, despite me being slower than his >> normal pace. >> >> There were a couple things I continued to do well (as a lazy randonneur) >> that allowed me to finish decently despite not too heavy training. >> >> 1. I knew what I could eat to sustain my energy. My sausage/egg/rice >> "sushi" rolls sustained me for 2/3 of the ride through mile 165. If I >> could change 1 thing, at night I would open some bars/snacks for my top >> tube snack bag while I'm stopped, because I could not easily open the >> packaging with my heavy full fingered gloves while riding. >> >> 2. I know what pace I can sustain for the full ride, so if the ride pace >> got too fast, especially on uphills, I would take it easy and go at my pace >> to the top of the climb. It's better to go slowly at a good pace than to >> flame out and then go REALLY slow the rest of the ride (I have >> unfortunately done this too!) >> >> 3. Randonneuring is not racing, and especially for the longer rides where >> we ride into the night, I have never failed to find someone to ride with. >> (Yes, I was worried with 2-3 riders on the ride!) There is safety and >> camaraderie in numbers and sometimes the best rides are those where I went >> a little slower than "full speed" but increased my enjoyment factor >> many-fold because I had great company and wasn't completely suffering >> trying to hang onto a paceline or maintaining a super fast pace. >> >> There is undoubtedly type 2 fun involved in a 21+ hour bike ride, but >> there was plenty of immediate fun flying through the Salinas Valley in full >> sun with the wind at our back, green all around, flowers yellow and white >> on the roadside, and the hills as beautiful as I have seen them. >> >> If I'm gonna do PBP before 60 years old, I've gotta do it in 2027. I'm >> starting to feel like this lazy randonneur may have to take a shot at it if >> I can keep it up for a few more years. >> >> Toshi in Oakland, CA >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7209fda4-07f3-42b7-9fed-b4a896e042een%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
That thread shows and describes how they run their bar con shift cable housing external to the grips. I was looking for how you were running your shift cable housing internal to the grips. The OP didn't specifically ask for "internal", I suppose. They just asked for "works with". :) That might actually be a cool product: a contemporary lock-on grip that incorporates a passageway for bar con shift cable/housing. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:26:33 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: > I didn't but there's precedent: > https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/g9A7pxZGN5w/m/ChChYuXkAgAJ > Max > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> I'd love to see photos of how you manage to get Ergon or ESI grips over >> barcon shift cable housing. >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:15:39 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: >> >>> I love my Ergon Bio Cork Grips on my Hunqa >>> Max >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote: >>> >>>> Or like Brian said, Newbaum's over ESI's - YUM! >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:59:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: >>>>> >>>>> In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise >>>>> cheap and comfy! >>>>> >>>>> Rubber grips can get sticky over time. >>>>> >>>>> I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, >>>>> cutting and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded >>>>> Newbaum's similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy >>>>> cushion, >>>>> good style, plus easy bar-end installation. >>>>> >>>>> Patch in Oakland. >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6f249edd-f985-4951-840b-533ad2c79769n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Santa Cruz Randonneurs 400k ride report
annis for his great > company and willingness to ride with me, despite me being slower than his > normal pace. > > There were a couple things I continued to do well (as a lazy randonneur) > that allowed me to finish decently despite not too heavy training. > > 1. I knew what I could eat to sustain my energy. My sausage/egg/rice > "sushi" rolls sustained me for 2/3 of the ride through mile 165. If I > could change 1 thing, at night I would open some bars/snacks for my top > tube snack bag while I'm stopped, because I could not easily open the > packaging with my heavy full fingered gloves while riding. > > 2. I know what pace I can sustain for the full ride, so if the ride pace > got too fast, especially on uphills, I would take it easy and go at my pace > to the top of the climb. It's better to go slowly at a good pace than to > flame out and then go REALLY slow the rest of the ride (I have > unfortunately done this too!) > > 3. Randonneuring is not racing, and especially for the longer rides where > we ride into the night, I have never failed to find someone to ride with. > (Yes, I was worried with 2-3 riders on the ride!) There is safety and > camaraderie in numbers and sometimes the best rides are those where I went > a little slower than "full speed" but increased my enjoyment factor > many-fold because I had great company and wasn't completely suffering > trying to hang onto a paceline or maintaining a super fast pace. > > There is undoubtedly type 2 fun involved in a 21+ hour bike ride, but > there was plenty of immediate fun flying through the Salinas Valley in full > sun with the wind at our back, green all around, flowers yellow and white > on the roadside, and the hills as beautiful as I have seen them. > > If I'm gonna do PBP before 60 years old, I've gotta do it in 2027. I'm > starting to feel like this lazy randonneur may have to take a shot at it if > I can keep it up for a few more years. > > Toshi in Oakland, CA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a3c07128-deca-4c1f-b7f6-683f9a729fe8n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
I didn't but there's precedent: https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/g9A7pxZGN5w/m/ChChYuXkAgAJ Max On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > I'd love to see photos of how you manage to get Ergon or ESI grips over > barcon shift cable housing. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:15:39 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: > >> I love my Ergon Bio Cork Grips on my Hunqa >> Max >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote: >> >>> Or like Brian said, Newbaum's over ESI's - YUM! >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:59:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote: >>> >>>> Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: >>>> >>>> In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise >>>> cheap and comfy! >>>> >>>> Rubber grips can get sticky over time. >>>> >>>> I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, >>>> cutting and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded >>>> Newbaum's similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy cushion, >>>> good style, plus easy bar-end installation. >>>> >>>> Patch in Oakland. >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bbf174b5-9403-4050-b987-b26edbc82f6cn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
I'd love to see photos of how you manage to get Ergon or ESI grips over barcon shift cable housing. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 11:15:39 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: > I love my Ergon Bio Cork Grips on my Hunqa > Max > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote: > >> Or like Brian said, Newbaum's over ESI's - YUM! >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:59:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote: >> >>> Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: >>> >>> In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise >>> cheap and comfy! >>> >>> Rubber grips can get sticky over time. >>> >>> I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, cutting >>> and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded Newbaum's >>> similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy cushion, good >>> style, plus easy bar-end installation. >>> >>> Patch in Oakland. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/49be497e-bcd3-4d9b-97c3-5f6383280b00n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
I love my Ergon Bio Cork Grips on my Hunqa Max On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 10:01:43 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote: > Or like Brian said, Newbaum's over ESI's - YUM! > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:59:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote: > >> Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: >> >> In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise >> cheap and comfy! >> >> Rubber grips can get sticky over time. >> >> I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, cutting >> and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded Newbaum's >> similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy cushion, good >> style, plus easy bar-end installation. >> >> Patch in Oakland. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/183a7cd3-f06d-4d9b-b422-e7ee66c29c2fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
Good choice Michael. I will be doing the same with my new Sam. I built up one bike from a frame prior to this, which convinced me to let someone else do it this time around. On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 12:20:35 PM UTC-4 Michael wrote: > Thanks for the input everyone! While I agree that building the bike would > be much more rewarding and I am confident in my ability to learn, I also I > want to make sure this bike reaches its full potential so think I am going > to go ahead and let Riv build this one up. I wasn't aware of their labor > cost but from the sounds of it, it will probably be more economical having > them do it anyway. Thanks again!! > > On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-4 mwill...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I vote DIY. Just do LOTS of research. YouTube and the mechanics section >> of Bike Forums have served me well. I also have around a thousand dollars >> worth of bike specific tools. You could probably save some money here or >> there by “making” some of the tools (YouTube can show you how). But, just >> know that there’s a lot more to assembling a bike than some think. For >> instance, I recently got my lugged Susie, and used my fairly new derailleur >> hanger adjustment gauge to check the hanger. It was off both vertically and >> horizontally. It looked straight to my eye, but wasn’t. If you choose not >> to do it yourself, I’d definitely vote Rivendell over local shop. They >> would know that a 7 speed cassette with a 9 speed crank and a 10 speed >> chain CAN work beautifully. When I asked my local shop (a Trek dealer) once >> about chasing and facing a bottom bracket on a Surly Cross Check, they >> seemed puzzled. So, I spent a few hundred dollars on the tool, watched some >> videos, and did it myself. Turned out great. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 28, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Michael wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >> inclined. >> >> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >> wiser to just order it complete? >> >> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >> stupid! >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a095032d-ca32-4b13-b677-05ef1b152e4dn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] WTB: boscomoose 580mm
Looking for a boscomoose in the 58cm width. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8bb25afa-643a-4e0a-8e4a-bd64b7876f88n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024
I wrote them but never heard back. Very frustrating. > On May 29, 2024, at 9:56 AM, Hoch in ut wrote: > > > Has anyone been able to get a response from the person selling the 58cm > Hunqapillar? I’ve messaged several times but no response. As appears to be > still up. > On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 10:58:48 AM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com wrote: >> Damn. That’s my size and I’ve always wanted one in that color. >> >> But I committed to a Roaduno and funds are tight… >> >> What to do!? >> >> P. W. >> ~ >> (917) 514-2207 >> ~ >> >> >> >> >>> On May 24, 2024, at 9:36 AM, Hans Erickson > wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> 58cm Hunqapillar ($1,250) on Albuquerque CL. Not mine, and too big for me. >>> >>> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/bik/d/albuquerque-hunqapillar/7749163041.html >>> >>> -Hans in Albuquerque >>> >>> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 1:14:15 PM UTC-6 Chris Halasz wrote: >>>> Nice 58cm bullmoose'd Nitto racked mustard Homer in Modesto ($2300): >>>> >>>> https://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/d/modesto-rivendell-homer-hilson/7748616636.html >>>> >>> >>> >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <>. >> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d1895fc9-423c-43ba-abb4-e84671ccb719n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d1895fc9-423c-43ba-abb4-e84671ccb719n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3b2005ad-93da-415c-8a6a-d8ac58faa2cdn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3b2005ad-93da-415c-8a6a-d8ac58faa2cdn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/82E907FF-5822-4628-A2AC-4946C5C3730E%40gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2024
Has anyone been able to get a response from the person selling the 58cm Hunqapillar? I’ve messaged several times but no response. As appears to be still up. On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 10:58:48 AM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com wrote: > Damn. That’s my size and I’ve always wanted one in that color. > > But I committed to a Roaduno and funds are tight… > > What to do!? > > P. W. > ~ > (917) 514-2207 > ~ > > > > > On May 24, 2024, at 9:36 AM, Hans Erickson wrote: > > > > 58cm Hunqapillar ($1,250) on Albuquerque CL. Not mine, and too big for me. > > > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/bik/d/albuquerque-hunqapillar/7749163041.html > > -Hans in Albuquerque > > On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 1:14:15 PM UTC-6 Chris Halasz wrote: > >> Nice 58cm bullmoose'd Nitto racked mustard Homer in Modesto ($2300): >> >> >> https://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/d/modesto-rivendell-homer-hilson/7748616636.html >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d1895fc9-423c-43ba-abb4-e84671ccb719n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d1895fc9-423c-43ba-abb4-e84671ccb719n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3b2005ad-93da-415c-8a6a-d8ac58faa2cdn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell SiLVER triple crankset
Price drop to $150 shipped. On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 3:06:23 PM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote: > Silver triple (44/34/24), 178mm, rings are in good shape with plenty of > life left! I took them apart and cleaned them. See photos for sneaker rub > on the arms, some chainring bolts have the usual mild corrosion, comes with > a set of new crank bolts. > > $165 shipped conus > > Thank You, > Jamin Orrall > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f6a83b9f-9c4b-465e-a6d2-0c8e6c9c623fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
Thanks for the input everyone! While I agree that building the bike would be much more rewarding and I am confident in my ability to learn, I also I want to make sure this bike reaches its full potential so think I am going to go ahead and let Riv build this one up. I wasn't aware of their labor cost but from the sounds of it, it will probably be more economical having them do it anyway. Thanks again!! On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-4 mwill...@gmail.com wrote: > I vote DIY. Just do LOTS of research. YouTube and the mechanics section of > Bike Forums have served me well. I also have around a thousand dollars > worth of bike specific tools. You could probably save some money here or > there by “making” some of the tools (YouTube can show you how). But, just > know that there’s a lot more to assembling a bike than some think. For > instance, I recently got my lugged Susie, and used my fairly new derailleur > hanger adjustment gauge to check the hanger. It was off both vertically and > horizontally. It looked straight to my eye, but wasn’t. If you choose not > to do it yourself, I’d definitely vote Rivendell over local shop. They > would know that a 7 speed cassette with a 9 speed crank and a 10 speed > chain CAN work beautifully. When I asked my local shop (a Trek dealer) once > about chasing and facing a bottom bracket on a Surly Cross Check, they > seemed puzzled. So, I spent a few hundred dollars on the tool, watched some > videos, and did it myself. Turned out great. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 28, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Michael wrote: > > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fa911017-0d40-4ccd-a336-0b010d523619n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2024
58cm 2TT Sam in Black on the RadBazaar. No affiliation with the seller, but looks like they just dropped the price a bit: https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/listing/VFxI7mcorYdxEOUDjKDb?category=undefined=undefined On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:55:02 AM UTC-4 Huston wrote: > Bridgestone Atlantis on the 'bay. Kind of interesting to compare the > "Atlantis 1" rando to the "Atlantis 2" tourer: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/186459853595 > > No relation to seller. > > Huston > Lexington, KY > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2d476601-7ddf-444f-8b6e-d53fe347d528n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
Or like Brian said, Newbaum's over ESI's - YUM! On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:59:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote: > Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: > > In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise cheap > and comfy! > > Rubber grips can get sticky over time. > > I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, cutting > and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded Newbaum's > similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy cushion, good > style, plus easy bar-end installation. > > Patch in Oakland. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b786d61e-594b-4449-893a-d0982ab95c24n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
Just wrote a whole message privately by accident. Here's a summary: In my experience ESI grips get very slippery if you sweat. Otherwise cheap and comfy! Rubber grips can get sticky over time. I like using rolls of cork sheet from the office or craft store, cutting and fitting that, then covering with Newbaum's. Or using padded Newbaum's similarly as a base layer. Both methods give you grippy cushion, good style, plus easy bar-end installation. Patch in Oakland. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3fc5a73a-e696-45d1-8176-afbf6cd0716bn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Let me introduce my Atlantis...
Love it Ben! On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:23:27 PM UTC-4 tl4ente...@gmail.com wrote: > Your ride and your trails are lookin real good. > Tommy > > On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 12:44:16 PM UTC-7 ben.r...@gmail.com wrote: > >> hey all, >> >> this is my third attempt at posting so hope fully it goes well. hope >> fully my tech illiterate self can figure this out... >> here is my 53 Atlantis i picked up in December from an RBW member. shout >> out to Zac big thank you. >> i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis on top of >> that. When i first saw riv's the Atlantis was the one that i was like "i >> have to own one at some point". >> i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis. its a >> group within a group. >> You can find me hiding up in the Berkley hills or on the Wildcat trail >> and even running errands along the Greenway. >> Still figuring out the set up, but i think for the most part we are >> pretty dialed. maybe a few things here and there. i do have an XTR Rapid >> rise that will go on next. >> Big shout out to Alex K, The Riv sisters. Especially Leah and Sarah. >> Sarah has become my new riding partner. >> *pics coming in next post >> Ben R from El Cerrito >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/dfb824b4-efce-4ef8-b6ef-ce6d4330dc76n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear
I've only got amber shellac, so everything gets amber. I've done cork grips with it and they look great. One can of shellac has lasted me maybe 5 years or so and still going strong. I prefer the amber for hemp twine and cloth bar tape, so if you only want to buy a single can, I'd vote for amber. On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 9:20:12 AM UTC-4 Michael Baquerizo wrote: > rivendell has always suggest some sort of contact cement or glue to get > the grips on there. the idea that i'd pay the premium price for cork only > to have them be useless once off never sat well with me, so i've found that > a mix of various tapes (cotton tape, tubeless rim tape) are perfect for > making up the slight variance in OD / ID between the two. > > as for shellac, i vote clear. amber works if you're trying to change the > color of something (like bar tape) but clear just adds a nice and classy > sheen. the cork is already brown...any browner to me comes off as old > fashioned instead of classy. > > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:25:34 PM UTC-4 tl4ente...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Looking for the pro tip before I go and mess up some raw cork grips. Is >> the move to do amber shellac or clear? Also, they spin on the bar and I >> could of course put some hair spray in there but the aftermath of stuck >> cork might suck... incase there is yet another pro tip. appreciate it. >> Tommy >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/30d4b482-9404-47bd-bb82-d30f67ed2f34n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear
rivendell has always suggest some sort of contact cement or glue to get the grips on there. the idea that i'd pay the premium price for cork only to have them be useless once off never sat well with me, so i've found that a mix of various tapes (cotton tape, tubeless rim tape) are perfect for making up the slight variance in OD / ID between the two. as for shellac, i vote clear. amber works if you're trying to change the color of something (like bar tape) but clear just adds a nice and classy sheen. the cork is already brown...any browner to me comes off as old fashioned instead of classy. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:25:34 PM UTC-4 tl4ente...@gmail.com wrote: > Looking for the pro tip before I go and mess up some raw cork grips. Is > the move to do amber shellac or clear? Also, they spin on the bar and I > could of course put some hair spray in there but the aftermath of stuck > cork might suck... incase there is yet another pro tip. appreciate it. > Tommy > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fe16e6b2-7a8f-468e-a213-916eb74e2349n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
I’m a big fan of the chunky ESI grips. They come in a variety of colors, but I’ve also seen folks wrap them in cotton tape and twine.BrianLex Ky On May 29, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Mathias Steiner wrote:One or two layers of 'cork' tape, covered with a delightful shade of Newbaum's.On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:45:15 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:Once again I am considering a cockpit change for my Sam Hillborne. This time I am going to upright Billie bars. For simplicity and cost savings I'm keeping the current bar end shifters. I'm currently pondering grips. I love the way cork grips look but find them to be too slippery. I've been happy with Oury grips. I like the way they feel but I don't think they look as good when you cut off the end to accommodate bar ends shifters. I've seen the felt and twine DIY grips that Riv promotes but I don't think I have the artistic ability and patience to recreate it. What am I missing? What grips are out there that look good, feel good and work with bar ends? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab215896-ac66-45fd-bf28-7d8485382131n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3D41CEFF-64FF-44CD-A77B-FEB3D22D0AD9%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: Cockpit swap on my Sam
One or two layers of 'cork' tape, covered with a delightful shade of Newbaum's. On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:45:15 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote: > Once again I am considering a cockpit change for my Sam Hillborne. This > time I am going to upright Billie bars. For simplicity and cost savings I'm > keeping the current bar end shifters. I'm currently pondering grips. I love > the way cork grips look but find them to be too slippery. I've been happy > with Oury grips. I like the way they feel but I don't think they look as > good when you cut off the end to accommodate bar ends shifters. I've seen > the felt and twine DIY grips that Riv promotes but I don't think I have the > artistic ability and patience to recreate it. > > What am I missing? What grips are out there that look good, feel good and > work with bar ends? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab215896-ac66-45fd-bf28-7d8485382131n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Cockpit swap on my Sam
Once again I am considering a cockpit change for my Sam Hillborne. This time I am going to upright Billie bars. For simplicity and cost savings I'm keeping the current bar end shifters. I'm currently pondering grips. I love the way cork grips look but find them to be too slippery. I've been happy with Oury grips. I like the way they feel but I don't think they look as good when you cut off the end to accommodate bar ends shifters. I've seen the felt and twine DIY grips that Riv promotes but I don't think I have the artistic ability and patience to recreate it. What am I missing? What grips are out there that look good, feel good and work with bar ends? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c54761af-b8a2-4724-a645-27633a31867cn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
I vote DIY. Just do LOTS of research. YouTube and the mechanics section of Bike Forums have served me well. I also have around a thousand dollars worth of bike specific tools. You could probably save some money here or there by “making” some of the tools (YouTube can show you how). But, just know that there’s a lot more to assembling a bike than some think. For instance, I recently got my lugged Susie, and used my fairly new derailleur hanger adjustment gauge to check the hanger. It was off both vertically and horizontally. It looked straight to my eye, but wasn’t. If you choose not to do it yourself, I’d definitely vote Rivendell over local shop. They would know that a 7 speed cassette with a 9 speed crank and a 10 speed chain CAN work beautifully. When I asked my local shop (a Trek dealer) once about chasing and facing a bottom bracket on a Surly Cross Check, they seemed puzzled. So, I spent a few hundred dollars on the tool, watched some videos, and did it myself. Turned out great.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 28, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Michael wrote:Hi all, Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically inclined. Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been wiser to just order it complete? Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something stupid!Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6A82F54C-29B4-4132-BB35-037959142709%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Santa Cruz Randonneurs 400k ride report
heavy full fingered gloves while riding. 2. I know what pace I can sustain for the full ride, so if the ride pace got too fast, especially on uphills, I would take it easy and go at my pace to the top of the climb. It's better to go slowly at a good pace than to flame out and then go REALLY slow the rest of the ride (I have unfortunately done this too!) 3. Randonneuring is not racing, and especially for the longer rides where we ride into the night, I have never failed to find someone to ride with. (Yes, I was worried with 2-3 riders on the ride!) There is safety and camaraderie in numbers and sometimes the best rides are those where I went a little slower than "full speed" but increased my enjoyment factor many-fold because I had great company and wasn't completely suffering trying to hang onto a paceline or maintaining a super fast pace. There is undoubtedly type 2 fun involved in a 21+ hour bike ride, but there was plenty of immediate fun flying through the Salinas Valley in full sun with the wind at our back, green all around, flowers yellow and white on the roadside, and the hills as beautiful as I have seen them. If I'm gonna do PBP before 60 years old, I've gotta do it in 2027. I'm starting to feel like this lazy randonneur may have to take a shot at it if I can keep it up for a few more years. Toshi in Oakland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xzVEK7CJMYBgLKVik01vV6Rw6ZvEtAymiw8DDPaoNA7Jw%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
Don't forget that Riv generally give a discount on parts cost when buying a complete. On the website they are currently giving $300 off for "Antonio's" build for example. Unless you have a stocked parts bin or are willing to shop around for everything, the Riv build will likely be the most economical as well as being done to a very high standard. Doing a self-build can be very rewarding and educational. However, it is also easy to make mistakes, like cross-threading a bolt or dropping a tool on to the top tube. I would recommend rebuilding a 1970s sport touring bike from the ground up rather than starting on a very nice and rather costly Rivendell frame. IanA Kitimat BC On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 8:32:14 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c39a0930-1177-44cc-8df7-dd2f05f89949n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18
Love all these photos. Thanks to all for sharing and posting routes. Might just do the triple scoop in June. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 6:09:54 PM UTC-7 Matthew Miller wrote: > Few more photos to share from the ride. Did Single w/cherry on top plus a > little side quest on a Susie. Was a super fun event with great vibes all > around. > > @Armand so nice to meet you! Attached a screenshot from a great photo Blue > Lug crew snapped of u :) > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/efe00b54-4335-49c0-ac8f-f2fe5a4dc215n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
Do it! Building your awesome bike from the frame-up is one of the bestest bike things you can do! Just keep at it until you have a bike you’re happy with. Everyone who’s ever built up a bike had to start somewhere… On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:32:14 AM UTC-4 Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/98746d16-7d8f-437c-861f-cf95aca90cccn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
I’d likely agree that having Riv build up the bike is the best option. But… my first bike build was my custom Riv back in 2001 I think. I had lots of time between putting down a deposit and actually receiving the frame to figure out the parts spec. Back then Riv had their catalogs that did a good job of detailing what parts worked well with others so most of the parts were bought from them. The bike went together perfectly and the bike rode well right from the start with only minor adjustments needed.I did have Riv install the headset and the bottom bracket since that seemed daunting at the time. With those taken care of I don’t think I needed many special tools outside of hex wrenches, a cassette locking tool and a chainring bolt tool. I did not have a bike stand at the time either so the bike was put together while leaning against a wall.So I think it is perfectly doable to do the 1st build yourself. Maybe have the headset installed by Riv. The BB should go in relatively easily. You can always have a local shop do a safety check on it after the build to make sure nothing major was missed. Robert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn May 28, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Michael wrote:Hi all, Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically inclined. Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been wiser to just order it complete? Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something stupid!Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/52BACCA7-D796-4A49-9DFB-4DDA3ABB34F2%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Cork Grips, Amber Shellac Or Clear
Looking for the pro tip before I go and mess up some raw cork grips. Is the move to do amber shellac or clear? Also, they spin on the bar and I could of course put some hair spray in there but the aftermath of stuck cork might suck... incase there is yet another pro tip. appreciate it. Tommy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7d8d05a0-fcf4-4d62-b0e4-519bc7d79b30n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Let me introduce my Atlantis...
Your ride and your trails are lookin real good. Tommy On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 12:44:16 PM UTC-7 ben.r...@gmail.com wrote: > hey all, > > this is my third attempt at posting so hope fully it goes well. hope fully > my tech illiterate self can figure this out... > here is my 53 Atlantis i picked up in December from an RBW member. shout > out to Zac big thank you. > i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis on top of > that. When i first saw riv's the Atlantis was the one that i was like "i > have to own one at some point". > i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis. its a > group within a group. > You can find me hiding up in the Berkley hills or on the Wildcat trail and > even running errands along the Greenway. > Still figuring out the set up, but i think for the most part we are pretty > dialed. maybe a few things here and there. i do have an XTR Rapid rise > that will go on next. > Big shout out to Alex K, The Riv sisters. Especially Leah and Sarah. > Sarah has become my new riding partner. > *pics coming in next post > Ben R from El Cerrito > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0c64c315-2512-4789-8413-682bada08379n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy
ee it differs from >> anodizing, but, how exactly? Too bad webmeisters are generally better fancy >> web page design than conveying information -- this for global corporate >> websites as well as bike websites; the latter on the whole do better. I >> gather that anodizing is colored (or not) oxidizing while cerakoting is a >> --- coating. >> >> One of the early links that DDG turned up said: "Anodized versus >> Cerakote: Which is better for your AR15?" >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 9:56 AM Armand Kizirian >> wrote: >> >>> Looks super fun. Good to know Paul can anodize parts like that! Also >>> interested to hear how the different size rides for you. Enjoy! >>> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Q_t8bGjApTc/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3c3752ea-0c52-4890-95bc-b805b39aef5en%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3c3752ea-0c52-4890-95bc-b805b39aef5en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2c35687d-ea3e-4f51-9bc3-98474306c81fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
I am genuinely still confused why people consider installing a headset difficult?Do people just mean because they don’t own the tools to do it?Because otherwise, I don’t get it. If you have a headset vice (and you don’t even need a fancy one,I have a perfectly serviceable cheapo from eBay that anybody less lazy than I could make themselves from a five-minute shop at a decent hardware store), and both a headset and adjustable wrench, I don’t see how installing one could be harder than, say, setting up even the most straightforward of V-brakes?Unless you had to remove an old headset first.In which case…No, actually, the same logic above applies. P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On May 28, 2024, at 6:32 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:40 PM Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote:Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for a home mechanic, in my experience. Not if you use a hammer. Seriously, this is how I installed my first ones, but those were cheap steel and I was lucky. No, don't try it. Now I use a crude press made from thick threaded rod with big fender washers and nuts; works fine and I do this only every 10 years or so.The next hardest job is ordering the correct parts: bottom bracket spindle length and crank and (if you're using one) the front derailer all need to play together correctly.+1. Buy your parts at a good shop who can tell you what size you need. FDs: Am I right in thinking that fds from the 5 sp era were more fiddly than modern (I count 7400s as modern) ones? Or am I just more experienced? I used to sweat over fds.Interesting thread. I started tearing down and building bikes in complete and blissful ignorance on a dirty concrete garage floor with poor light and minimal tools -- monkey wrench for headsets and bb fixed cup, nail and hammer and big nut for chains, largely pliers and vise grip for the rest. If you have good set of general DIY tools you are already light years ahead. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgt2sqXjqPKtY0nJ3BWpcHLcpntHTZ0tzPoCHSYDXiu9_A%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3B5DB46B-9DD4-4F66-9380-E7262D8ADE40%40gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:40 PM Eric Daume wrote: > Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for a > home mechanic, in my experience. > Not if you use a hammer. Seriously, this is how I installed my first ones, but those were cheap steel and I was lucky. No, don't try it. Now I use a crude press made from thick threaded rod with big fender washers and nuts; works fine and I do this only every 10 years or so. The next hardest job is ordering the correct parts: bottom bracket spindle > length and crank and (if you're using one) the front derailer all need to > play together correctly. > +1. Buy your parts at a good shop who can tell you what size you need. FDs: Am I right in thinking that fds from the 5 sp era were more fiddly than modern (I count 7400s as modern) ones? Or am I just more experienced? I used to sweat over fds. Interesting thread. I started tearing down and building bikes in complete and blissful ignorance on a dirty concrete garage floor with poor light and minimal tools -- monkey wrench for headsets and bb fixed cup, nail and hammer and big nut for chains, largely pliers and vise grip for the rest. If you have good set of general DIY tools you are already light years ahead. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgt2sqXjqPKtY0nJ3BWpcHLcpntHTZ0tzPoCHSYDXiu9_A%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
I have to agree with Piaw here. It's not hard to build a bike, at least if it's a Rivendell-type bike, if you start by buying the correct parts from a knowledgeable shop instead of trying to learn seat-of-pants by yourelf. But I disagree about racks and fenders: racks are rarely a problem, IME, if you use rim brakes and even plastic fenders are not that hard to install. I agree that the first 2 or so pairs of metal fenders will be an education, and I suggested to a friend that if he use VOs or Honjos he buy a practice pair along with the"real" pair; kidding but not by too much; but I managed to install my first pair (Berthouds?) with enough time and they were only a wee bit warped in the rear, but not noticeable unless you looked closely. But even metal fenders aren't that hard if you have decent tools and follow good instructions; Jitensha used to have the best instructions, but this was a decade or more ago. As for square taper bb bearing assemblies, they're all cartridge now* and all you need is for a reputable shop to tell you which length you need for a given crank. * Unless someone wants to buy my NIP Suntour Grease Guard, 125 mm -- was hoping it would work on Matt #1, but nope. But even loose ball bb assemblies aren't hard as long as you have been told what size to buy; in all of this it's the variety of lengths and which to choose for which crank that can be confusing. On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:26 PM Mathias Steiner wrote: > Piaw said: > > >> Don't worry about assembling the bike. Modern bikes are easy and modern > parts even easier. > > Clearly, you have not added racks and fenders much :) > > Especially the latter are usually finicky... been doing this since 1986, > can't count how many times. > Sometimes it goes OK, but I got some Honjos to put on right now and lemme > tell you... > > >> (I avoid the square taper BB for that reason) > > That I've had no trouble with, cartridge or traditional. > > cheers -mathias > > > > > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 8:12:12 PM UTC-4 Piaw Na wrote: > >> I've been building my own bikes since 2007. It's not nearly as hard as >> building a wheel. The only issue I can see is the the Sam Hillborne runs >> cantilever/v-brakes, which have never worked out for me (I only buy >> sidepull brake bikes to sidestep that problem). I recently built my wife's >> bike. During the build due to bad lighting in my garage I assembled the >> microshift bar-end wrong in such a way that the lever throw was half of >> what it should have been. I scratched my head and rode it to the bike shop, >> where the mechanic diagnosed the problem while telling me that it's silly >> to put MTB derailleurs and a 1x drivetrain on my wife's road bike. But they >> were about to close up shop. I decided to just ride the bike back home, >> undo the shifter/derailleur cable assembly and redo it (which took all of >> 15 minutes) and now the bike's perfect and she's setting PRs on her commute. >> >> The lesson: >> >>- Have good lighting in your workshop. Saves lots of time. >>- Don't worry about assembling the bike. Modern bikes are easy and >>modern parts even easier. (I avoid the square taper BB sfor that reason) >>- The only way to get the parts you want on a bike is to buy them >>yourself and assemble it yourself. I've had reputable shops like R >> cycles >>refuse to custom build a road bike with a 1x drivetrain. I do it myself >> and >>have no complaints about my mechanic refuse to do entirely reasonable >>things. >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 8:32:14 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >>> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >>> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >>> inclined. >>> >>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >>> wiser to just order it complete? >>> >>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >>> stupid! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d5a1510b-30f4-40fa-bf5b-261a8e5264ecn%40
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy
Hi Leah, You could try experimenting with the tire pressure and then standing up and riding. For my wide tires, I ride with low tire pressures, but if it is "too low" for me, then the bike starts to bounce kinda like a trampoline when I stand on my pedals. I don't know if that's the same feeling you are feeling, but pumping up the pressure helps remove the trampoline effect and it transfers the power to the pavement just like a higher pressure road tire (for me). When my handling gets all wonky it's, "Oh *?*!, a flat!!!?" Toshi P.S. There are rumors that the 48 mm gravelkings are clunky slow compared to the 42 mm gravelkings. I don't know because I have only used the 42 mm gravelkings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAGB59xyddiORxySgW%2Bc97JOzQ8gEG9kwafTMDQPheAcbjQ6EiQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
>ike maybe your frame set is used and not new, and so there's zero prep and thread chasing involved. I didn't have to chase the Roadini's BB threads. Many of Rivendell's frames used to come with BB installed, so there 's likely no work there. I recently built my wife's Ritchey Road Logic Classic from frame up. No chasing needed when I installed the BB either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAPh0EZ4j-c%2BUwbk8gCXSfooc5E2r_90e4z7surFOm-Xo0XzR%3DA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for a home mechanic, in my experience. The next hardest job is ordering the correct parts: bottom bracket spindle length and crank and (if you're using one) the front derailer all need to play together correctly. After that, it's mostly bolting stuff together, it would be hard to actually damage your frame doing this. Setting some things (chain length, cable housing length, brake pad adjustment, derailer limit stops) take a bit of thought and/or youtube research, but especially with a friction drivetrain and rim brakes, none of this is rocket science. Eric who last bought a complete bike in... um... er... in Plain City, OH On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:32 AM Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAHFNW5DAxA6eubkMkGo0jm0T2Y8xL4Wg011DVZ1WKWUJQi8QnA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
ke.com/products/wheelset-white-industries-mi5-hubs-bto?variant=41760074498159>, >>> >>> then tack on a shipping fee and tax. I bought the *exact same wheelset* >>> (with >>> DT Swiss double-butted spokes) for $750 hand-built by ProWheelBuilder (they >>> had a 15% off WI sell last month). No tax in my state, no build fee, free >>> shipping. For Riv's cost for an Acera rear mech, you can get a gently used >>> Deore XT. And so on. >>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 1:42:20 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: >>> >>>> Patrick and others surely remember this one…unless rewritten mostly way >>>> out date now. But that’s about where/when we started. >>>> >>>> It’s a long road full of triumphs and disasters. Add ‘em, more triumphs >>>> for sure. That’s how/why we’re still here 浪 >>>> >>>> Jock >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:32 AM Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should >>>>> tackle building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never >>>>> built >>>>> a bike before but I do have a workshop and am good with >>>>> tools/mechanically >>>>> inclined. >>>>> >>>>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >>>>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have >>>>> been >>>>> wiser to just order it complete? >>>>> >>>>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >>>>> stupid! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2db3b6c4-0523-4691-a69a-ca033fb967e4n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 5:26 PM Mathias Steiner wrote: > Piaw said: > > >> Don't worry about assembling the bike. Modern bikes are easy and modern > parts even easier. > > Clearly, you have not added racks and fenders much :)' > I live in California to sidestep the latter problem (btw, Ass Savers Win Wing Gravel is amazing and perfect for the kind of riding I do), and I rely on saddlebags to sidestep the former. When I do have to install a rack I do take it to the local bike shop and make them do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAPh0EZ53g%2B8Od5s1V3AHizk_oZJLVSK97MFwf%2BhiSoUHuZPXiA%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
Piaw said: >> Don't worry about assembling the bike. Modern bikes are easy and modern parts even easier. Clearly, you have not added racks and fenders much :) Especially the latter are usually finicky... been doing this since 1986, can't count how many times. Sometimes it goes OK, but I got some Honjos to put on right now and lemme tell you... >> (I avoid the square taper BB for that reason) That I've had no trouble with, cartridge or traditional. cheers -mathias On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 8:12:12 PM UTC-4 Piaw Na wrote: > I've been building my own bikes since 2007. It's not nearly as hard as > building a wheel. The only issue I can see is the the Sam Hillborne runs > cantilever/v-brakes, which have never worked out for me (I only buy > sidepull brake bikes to sidestep that problem). I recently built my wife's > bike. During the build due to bad lighting in my garage I assembled the > microshift bar-end wrong in such a way that the lever throw was half of > what it should have been. I scratched my head and rode it to the bike shop, > where the mechanic diagnosed the problem while telling me that it's silly > to put MTB derailleurs and a 1x drivetrain on my wife's road bike. But they > were about to close up shop. I decided to just ride the bike back home, > undo the shifter/derailleur cable assembly and redo it (which took all of > 15 minutes) and now the bike's perfect and she's setting PRs on her commute. > > The lesson: > >- Have good lighting in your workshop. Saves lots of time. >- Don't worry about assembling the bike. Modern bikes are easy and >modern parts even easier. (I avoid the square taper BB sfor that reason) >- The only way to get the parts you want on a bike is to buy them >yourself and assemble it yourself. I've had reputable shops like R > cycles >refuse to custom build a road bike with a 1x drivetrain. I do it myself > and >have no complaints about my mechanic refuse to do entirely reasonable >things. > > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 8:32:14 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >> inclined. >> >> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >> wiser to just order it complete? >> >> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >> stupid! >> >> Thanks, >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d5a1510b-30f4-40fa-bf5b-261a8e5264ecn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Let me introduce my Atlantis...
Rivsisters are always the best. And everybody always wants to be stopped to talk about their bike. So please do stop me if you see me. I'd love to tell you every last detail on each part and each thing I have on my bike. And I'd love to know about your bike too. Leah knows everybody and connects everyone. On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 8:38:09 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote: > Ben, > > You ARE very lucky to have an Atlantis (the bike I would have bought if I > had more money years ago--I fell in love with its ride too) and a fun Sarah > to ride with! > > Not only can we indulge our passions with wonderful riding bikes, but also > make friends along the way. > > Many happy miles to you. > > Roberta > > On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com wrote: > >> hey all, >> >> this is my third attempt at posting so hope fully it goes well. hope >> fully my tech illiterate self can figure this out... >> here is my 53 Atlantis i picked up in December from an RBW member. shout >> out to Zac big thank you. >> i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis on top of >> that. When i first saw riv's the Atlantis was the one that i was like "i >> have to own one at some point". >> i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis. its a >> group within a group. >> You can find me hiding up in the Berkley hills or on the Wildcat trail >> and even running errands along the Greenway. >> Still figuring out the set up, but i think for the most part we are >> pretty dialed. maybe a few things here and there. i do have an XTR Rapid >> rise that will go on next. >> Big shout out to Alex K, The Riv sisters. Especially Leah and Sarah. >> Sarah has become my new riding partner. >> *pics coming in next post >> Ben R from El Cerrito >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1092ba0a-3b74-4b89-9cd2-00feb5e0741bn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build
ead >>>> of a tire simply due to losing air.* Especially with a high quality >>>> tubeless tire with a durable casing. My 3 (THREE ;) cents. >>>> >>>> First train ride: >>>> >>>> [image: IMG_3477.jpg] >>>> >>>> On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 10:08:00 AM UTC-7 Armand Kizirian wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Eric - I'm mixed on the pretzel pedals. I chose them over the >>>>> Monarchs/Gamma because of the additional, wider support, and the >>>>> sculptural >>>>> design matched the them I was going for. I'm afraid the aesthetics do not >>>>> match the function very well. The function of the pedal is heavily >>>>> reliant >>>>> upon the pins. Remove the pins and you have a pretty terrible pedal, in >>>>> terms of have a flat, consistent surface on which to evenly distribute >>>>> weight, with some form of traction. The pins they come with are quite >>>>> tall >>>>> and aggressive, the type that will mark and damage your shoe sole >>>>> overtime. >>>>> They are quite effective, but, at least in my eyes, these are meant to be >>>>> beautiful pedals for pleasure riding, not downhill mtb'ing. I modified >>>>> them >>>>> by putting in a mix of 1-2mm shorter brass m4 set screws. I like how they >>>>> are now, but wouldn't purchase them again. I'll probably end up with some >>>>> generic Shimano one-side platform/other side SPD pedal, as some of the >>>>> dirt >>>>> trails I like to go on tangent to my city are incredibly steep. >>>>> >>>>> Right now I'm experimenting with some Rene Herse knobbies. They roll >>>>> exceptionally well, are indeed quiet, but however, they have introduced a >>>>> consistent buzz that is transmitted to the pedals--feedback which I'm not >>>>> crazy about. Audibly they are indeed quiet. I'm VERY impressed by the >>>>> durability of the endurance casing, I trashed these tires descending over >>>>> 6000ft on some of the chunkiest rocks/terrain in southern california and >>>>> not a hiccup. I did identify one of the knobs being slashed in half and >>>>> flapping about, no risk of a puncture though. I'll probably switch back >>>>> to >>>>> RH slicks, or try a slick in the rear and knobby up front. >>>>> >>>>> *As much as I do love the Platy so far, I think I would desire the >>>>> additional tire clearance that an Appaloosa offers.* *If anyone has a >>>>> 54-57cm lime-olive Appaloosa frame/fork, I would consider a purchase or >>>>> trade. * Plus the additional convenience of a diamond frame, from >>>>> extra water bottle, to more traditional frame bags/top tube bags, can't >>>>> be >>>>> denied for longer rides/future tours. >>>>> >>>>> Picture from recent lunch on some grass. >>>>> >>>>> [image: IMG_3468.JPG] >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 3:33:22 PM UTC-7 Chester wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> kiziria...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. >>>>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/1wbpogiix44fmt9b40o6j/APG3fbw3AAQbjYtT-PK3JrY?rlkey=0dkhnviwb33ouz7tkhl45nqqf=0>* >>>>>> >>>>>> Beautiful, Armand. I love seeing bikes like yours, with so many >>>>>> little aesthetic touches totally thought out and dialed in. AND all >>>>>> sorts >>>>>> of functional details dialed in. Totally balleur. Congratulations. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chester >>>>>> SF Bay Area >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/520f0906-b858-4672-94e8-9b2dd32b1d79n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
I've been building my own bikes since 2007. It's not nearly as hard as building a wheel. The only issue I can see is the the Sam Hillborne runs cantilever/v-brakes, which have never worked out for me (I only buy sidepull brake bikes to sidestep that problem). I recently built my wife's bike. During the build due to bad lighting in my garage I assembled the microshift bar-end wrong in such a way that the lever throw was half of what it should have been. I scratched my head and rode it to the bike shop, where the mechanic diagnosed the problem while telling me that it's silly to put MTB derailleurs and a 1x drivetrain on my wife's road bike. But they were about to close up shop. I decided to just ride the bike back home, undo the shifter/derailleur cable assembly and redo it (which took all of 15 minutes) and now the bike's perfect and she's setting PRs on her commute. The lesson: - Have good lighting in your workshop. Saves lots of time. - Don't worry about assembling the bike. Modern bikes are easy and modern parts even easier. (I avoid the square taper BB sfor that reason) - The only way to get the parts you want on a bike is to buy them yourself and assemble it yourself. I've had reputable shops like R cycles refuse to custom build a road bike with a 1x drivetrain. I do it myself and have no complaints about my mechanic refuse to do entirely reasonable things. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 8:32:14 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7c6cd291-584b-448c-a736-6ea0841562c8n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
gt;>>> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:32 AM Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should >>>>> tackle building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never >>>>> built >>>>> a bike before but I do have a workshop and am good with >>>>> tools/mechanically >>>>> inclined. >>>>> >>>>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >>>>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have >>>>> been >>>>> wiser to just order it complete? >>>>> >>>>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >>>>> stupid! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/384bdbfd-fa95-4719-9a55-bab02e3cb52fn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS 48 Sam Hillborne $2100 OBO plus shipping
Bump and dropped to $2100. Please reach out if you have any questions. On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 11:15:29 AM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote: > Bump and dropped to $2400 > > On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 10:14:52 AM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote: > >> BUMP with price reduction and a couple new photos. $2600 plus shipping. >> >> Standover is 28.5 inches. This is as small as I think Riv's are made. >> >> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:06:15 PM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote: >> >>> I am selling for my ex-wife a 48 mm Sam Hillborne. I purchased the frame >>> and built it up at a local shop. The bike has hardly been ridden since It >>> was built up. I am happy to share details and take any additional photos. I >>> plan to keep the rack and can include the basket if it fits in the box. >>> Rich built wheels and dynamo hub but don't currently have a light on it. I >>> can see if I have one to include. Bike is in PDX. >>> >>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5aVbMKvfjLe >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a76adea8-b34c-4288-9a32-836abad3fa6en%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build
rtime. >>>> They are quite effective, but, at least in my eyes, these are meant to be >>>> beautiful pedals for pleasure riding, not downhill mtb'ing. I modified >>>> them >>>> by putting in a mix of 1-2mm shorter brass m4 set screws. I like how they >>>> are now, but wouldn't purchase them again. I'll probably end up with some >>>> generic Shimano one-side platform/other side SPD pedal, as some of the >>>> dirt >>>> trails I like to go on tangent to my city are incredibly steep. >>>> >>>> Right now I'm experimenting with some Rene Herse knobbies. They roll >>>> exceptionally well, are indeed quiet, but however, they have introduced a >>>> consistent buzz that is transmitted to the pedals--feedback which I'm not >>>> crazy about. Audibly they are indeed quiet. I'm VERY impressed by the >>>> durability of the endurance casing, I trashed these tires descending over >>>> 6000ft on some of the chunkiest rocks/terrain in southern california and >>>> not a hiccup. I did identify one of the knobs being slashed in half and >>>> flapping about, no risk of a puncture though. I'll probably switch back to >>>> RH slicks, or try a slick in the rear and knobby up front. >>>> >>>> *As much as I do love the Platy so far, I think I would desire the >>>> additional tire clearance that an Appaloosa offers.* *If anyone has a >>>> 54-57cm lime-olive Appaloosa frame/fork, I would consider a purchase or >>>> trade. * Plus the additional convenience of a diamond frame, from >>>> extra water bottle, to more traditional frame bags/top tube bags, can't be >>>> denied for longer rides/future tours. >>>> >>>> Picture from recent lunch on some grass. >>>> >>>> [image: IMG_3468.JPG] >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 3:33:22 PM UTC-7 Chester wrote: >>>> >>>>> kiziria...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. >>>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/1wbpogiix44fmt9b40o6j/APG3fbw3AAQbjYtT-PK3JrY?rlkey=0dkhnviwb33ouz7tkhl45nqqf=0>* >>>>> >>>>> Beautiful, Armand. I love seeing bikes like yours, with so many little >>>>> aesthetic touches totally thought out and dialed in. AND all sorts of >>>>> functional details dialed in. Totally balleur. Congratulations. >>>>> >>>>> Chester >>>>> SF Bay Area >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2c11b235-689e-4560-833c-d7a9ad786bb2n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build
;> durability of the endurance casing, I trashed these tires descending over >>> 6000ft on some of the chunkiest rocks/terrain in southern california and >>> not a hiccup. I did identify one of the knobs being slashed in half and >>> flapping about, no risk of a puncture though. I'll probably switch back to >>> RH slicks, or try a slick in the rear and knobby up front. >>> >>> *As much as I do love the Platy so far, I think I would desire the >>> additional tire clearance that an Appaloosa offers.* *If anyone has a >>> 54-57cm lime-olive Appaloosa frame/fork, I would consider a purchase or >>> trade. * Plus the additional convenience of a diamond frame, from extra >>> water bottle, to more traditional frame bags/top tube bags, can't be denied >>> for longer rides/future tours. >>> >>> Picture from recent lunch on some grass. >>> >>> [image: IMG_3468.JPG] >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 3:33:22 PM UTC-7 Chester wrote: >>> >>>> kiziria...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. >>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/1wbpogiix44fmt9b40o6j/APG3fbw3AAQbjYtT-PK3JrY?rlkey=0dkhnviwb33ouz7tkhl45nqqf=0>* >>>> >>>> Beautiful, Armand. I love seeing bikes like yours, with so many little >>>> aesthetic touches totally thought out and dialed in. AND all sorts of >>>> functional details dialed in. Totally balleur. Congratulations. >>>> >>>> Chester >>>> SF Bay Area >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7f223718-2985-4135-b28d-a5062dc2a016n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
My husband-and-wife run LIBS is building my one and only bike (a Homer) from parts and charging me $100 for it, the price they charge for a full tune-up. They also charge $60/hour for a la carte services, as you point out. I am happy to recommend them to anyone in the Boston metro. They tastefully rehab older steel frames with new[er] parts and sell them for $200-$400; they only sell steel frame bikes and operate out of a used car lot's garage. Their inventory is like 3 new Surlys and maybe an All-State or two. The rest are rehabs and they are absolute professionals about everything they do. Mine isn't the first Riv they've built from parts either. Perhaps the bike shops around you are a bit less affordable or have to charge more to account for higher overhead, etc. I'm not saying that Riv is *gouging*, I'm stating facts that there are more affordable places to buy the exact same parts and more affordable shops to build a bike. That is no way a slight on Riv, it's just facts. That said, I'm glad they promote and make a great margin on those good-cheap parts and builds because I'm grateful for what that has allowed them to do for bicycling as a whole. I appreciate their bikes and ethos, or else I wouldn't be on this forum. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 5:44:26 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > "Your LIBS can likely assemble for ~$100 or less rather than Riv's $300 > charge" > > I'm going to call BS on this. I sincerely doubt that there is a bike shop > on earth, with a mechanic experienced-enough that I'd want them building my > bike, who would quote under $100 for a frame-up bike assembly, when I've > bought none of the parts from them and didn't buy the frame from them. > It's a 3-4 hour job. Any mechanic worth their salt is billing $1 a minute > for the shop to keep the lights on. > > There are bargains to be had out there, to be sure. If you luck-out and > find wheels on sale, good job. If you know how to find used parts for > cheap, terrific. The existence of cheap used parts does not make Rivendell > a price gouger, though. It's especially ungenerous to imply that, > particularly when Rivendell is unique in their praise and promotion of > good-cheap parts (like the Acera rear mech). That's my opinion. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:26:21 AM UTC-7 Robert Calton wrote: > >> I'd order the parts and then have your local independent bike shop >> assemble it, because ordering everything yourself is going to save you a >> considerable amount of money if you want the *exact* same parts build >> that Riv would put on. If you decide you want to spend the same amount of >> money as a Riv build package, you'll get *much* better parts. Your LIBS >> can likely assemble for ~$100 or less rather than Riv's $300 charge. Check >> out the builds on Blue Lug and have fun shopping. >> >> I don't want to diss Riv's part pricing, but you can find better prices >> elsewhere even for the same components. For example, Riv is selling the WI >> MI5/Atlas wheelset for over $1000 >> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/wheelset-white-industries-mi5-hubs-bto?variant=41760074498159>, >> >> then tack on a shipping fee and tax. I bought the *exact same wheelset* >> (with >> DT Swiss double-butted spokes) for $750 hand-built by ProWheelBuilder (they >> had a 15% off WI sell last month). No tax in my state, no build fee, free >> shipping. For Riv's cost for an Acera rear mech, you can get a gently used >> Deore XT. And so on. >> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 1:42:20 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: >> >>> Patrick and others surely remember this one…unless rewritten mostly way >>> out date now. But that’s about where/when we started. >>> >>> It’s a long road full of triumphs and disasters. Add ‘em, more triumphs >>> for sure. That’s how/why we’re still here 浪 >>> >>> Jock >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:32 AM Michael wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >>>> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a >>>> bike >>>> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >>>> inclined. >>>> >>>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >>>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >>>> wiser to just order it complete? >>>> >>>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
"Your LIBS can likely assemble for ~$100 or less rather than Riv's $300 charge" I'm going to call BS on this. I sincerely doubt that there is a bike shop on earth, with a mechanic experienced-enough that I'd want them building my bike, who would quote under $100 for a frame-up bike assembly, when I've bought none of the parts from them and didn't buy the frame from them. It's a 3-4 hour job. Any mechanic worth their salt is billing $1 a minute for the shop to keep the lights on. There are bargains to be had out there, to be sure. If you luck-out and find wheels on sale, good job. If you know how to find used parts for cheap, terrific. The existence of cheap used parts does not make Rivendell a price gouger, though. It's especially ungenerous to imply that, particularly when Rivendell is unique in their praise and promotion of good-cheap parts (like the Acera rear mech). That's my opinion. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:26:21 AM UTC-7 Robert Calton wrote: > I'd order the parts and then have your local independent bike shop > assemble it, because ordering everything yourself is going to save you a > considerable amount of money if you want the *exact* same parts build > that Riv would put on. If you decide you want to spend the same amount of > money as a Riv build package, you'll get *much* better parts. Your LIBS > can likely assemble for ~$100 or less rather than Riv's $300 charge. Check > out the builds on Blue Lug and have fun shopping. > > I don't want to diss Riv's part pricing, but you can find better prices > elsewhere even for the same components. For example, Riv is selling the WI > MI5/Atlas wheelset for over $1000 > <https://www.rivbike.com/products/wheelset-white-industries-mi5-hubs-bto?variant=41760074498159>, > > then tack on a shipping fee and tax. I bought the *exact same wheelset* (with > DT Swiss double-butted spokes) for $750 hand-built by ProWheelBuilder (they > had a 15% off WI sell last month). No tax in my state, no build fee, free > shipping. For Riv's cost for an Acera rear mech, you can get a gently used > Deore XT. And so on. > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 1:42:20 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: > >> Patrick and others surely remember this one…unless rewritten mostly way >> out date now. But that’s about where/when we started. >> >> It’s a long road full of triumphs and disasters. Add ‘em, more triumphs >> for sure. That’s how/why we’re still here 浪 >> >> Jock >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:32 AM Michael wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >>> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >>> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >>> inclined. >>> >>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >>> wiser to just order it complete? >>> >>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >>> stupid! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6d7570a1-d390-4afb-9ad0-9398b60df591n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
Michael, I can guess how you feel -- you want the bicycle to be "yours", and you'd prefer to build it from the frame up. That's how I feel about my bikes, and after thirty years of at least occasional wrenching, I'd feel OK building it myself. But the investment to get me to this point was working with inexpensive bikes that wouldn't break my heart if I messed up, and having at least one other bike to get me around. The difference between a professional and a competent amateur is mostly speed, no matter the craft. The difference between a competent amateur and a raw beginner can be safety. Not every danger in bikes is obvious -- take the example of a quill stem inserted too low into the butted part of a head tube. Or, rim brake pads installed backwards, which can cause them to pop out. So if you have another bike, the patience of an angel, and are willing to learn, do it yourself. You'll learn a lot and you'll have a great bike in a matter of weeks.. certainly not days. You won't save much if any money, either. Putting bikes together piece by piece is expensive. Rivendell has package discounts, but it's still a lot. The couple times I built a bike from the frame up, it wasn't cheap, but like most here, I have a deep parts bin. That makes all the difference. To make this less complicated: Let Riv build it up for you. An illustration: This competent amateur just went on a ride to try out new-to-me tires I bought off this list. The wheel I put them on was seven speed instead of eight, and I remembered a split second too late to take it easy when shifting to the biggest cog... so the chain went over the cog, caught on the spokes, and stopped the rear wheel dead. This sheared off two drive-side spokes and messed up the wheel. I yanked out the chain, and used the multitool spoke wrench to true the wheel close enough to "round" to ride home. See: I'm competent. It just doesn't keep me from being an idiot sometimes. You don't want an adventure like that with your new frame. Doing your own work requires a certain humility so you don't put yourself in danger. Second-guess yourself. Measure twice and cut once... it's a useful lesson for doing anything. If you want to learn, put in the time an inexpensive bike. cheers -mathias On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 2:26:21 PM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote: > I'd order the parts and then have your local independent bike shop > assemble it, because ordering everything yourself is going to save you a > considerable amount of money if you want the *exact* same parts build > that Riv would put on. If you decide you want to spend the same amount of > money as a Riv build package, you'll get *much* better parts. Your LIBS > can likely assemble for ~$100 or less rather than Riv's $300 charge. Check > out the builds on Blue Lug and have fun shopping. > > I don't want to diss Riv's part pricing, but you can find better prices > elsewhere even for the same components. For example, Riv is selling the WI > MI5/Atlas wheelset for over $1000 > <https://www.rivbike.com/products/wheelset-white-industries-mi5-hubs-bto?variant=41760074498159>, > > then tack on a shipping fee and tax. I bought the *exact same wheelset* (with > DT Swiss double-butted spokes) for $750 hand-built by ProWheelBuilder (they > had a 15% off WI sell last month). No tax in my state, no build fee, free > shipping. For Riv's cost for an Acera rear mech, you can get a gently used > Deore XT. And so on. > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 1:42:20 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: > >> Patrick and others surely remember this one…unless rewritten mostly way >> out date now. But that’s about where/when we started. >> >> It’s a long road full of triumphs and disasters. Add ‘em, more triumphs >> for sure. That’s how/why we’re still here 浪 >> >> Jock >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:32 AM Michael wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >>> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >>> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >>> inclined. >>> >>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >>> wiser to just order it complete? >>> >>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >>> stupid! >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em
Re: [RBW] Silver Hub sound
@Armand - Thank you for sharing this information. I decided to buy some. Kim Hetzel. On Tue, May 28, 2024, 11:01 AM Armand Kizirian wrote: > No need to decide against an otherwise excellent hub due to a loud > freehub. Apply this stuff generously to the pawls and it will silence it > several fold. https://www.dumondetech.com/portfolio/pro-x-freehub-grease/ > > Depending on how much you ride, you may need to reply it every few months > or once a year to keep pawls silent. I use it on my mtb which has Industry > Nine hubs with a billion engagement points so I can actually enjoy the > sounds of nature. > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:19:45 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote: > >> I have one pair of wheels built onto Onyx hubs, and because the rear hub >> uses a sprag clutch instead of pawls or a star ratchet like DT Swiss, they >> are completely silent when freewheeling. I find it very nice that when I'm >> stooging along out in the country and stop pedalling, I don't have any >> mechanical noise other than that of the tyres on the road. >> >> I can't say that I really care for the look of their Vesper model hubs, >> which have scalloped edges on the hub flanges between the spoke holes and >> stepped diameters on the hub shell. I prefer the older "Classic" model I >> have (still available) that has a smoother outline. They're also pretty >> pricey - almost up in Chris King territory. >> >> Nick Payne >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/NuMsk6ZZw80/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fe9140c0-9472-49b9-bc71-ba8f733841c0n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fe9140c0-9472-49b9-bc71-ba8f733841c0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CANRt_x%3D4QdhvfA_-EB68T0Q0%2BbOcZJmc9NGmwvDzzVPx7i6z%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
I'd order the parts and then have your local independent bike shop assemble it, because ordering everything yourself is going to save you a considerable amount of money if you want the *exact* same parts build that Riv would put on. If you decide you want to spend the same amount of money as a Riv build package, you'll get *much* better parts. Your LIBS can likely assemble for ~$100 or less rather than Riv's $300 charge. Check out the builds on Blue Lug and have fun shopping. I don't want to diss Riv's part pricing, but you can find better prices elsewhere even for the same components. For example, Riv is selling the WI MI5/Atlas wheelset for over $1000 <https://www.rivbike.com/products/wheelset-white-industries-mi5-hubs-bto?variant=41760074498159>, then tack on a shipping fee and tax. I bought the *exact same wheelset* (with DT Swiss double-butted spokes) for $750 hand-built by ProWheelBuilder (they had a 15% off WI sell last month). No tax in my state, no build fee, free shipping. For Riv's cost for an Acera rear mech, you can get a gently used Deore XT. And so on. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 1:42:20 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote: > Patrick and others surely remember this one…unless rewritten mostly way > out date now. But that’s about where/when we started. > > It’s a long road full of triumphs and disasters. Add ‘em, more triumphs > for sure. That’s how/why we’re still here 浪 > > Jock > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:32 AM Michael wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >> inclined. >> >> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >> wiser to just order it complete? >> >> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >> stupid! >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/602bd6a7-d903-4a16-b1e1-f729b74a0b78n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: Large Sackville and Nitto Noodles
Noodles are sold as well. On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 12:30:38 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote: > Sackville is off to a new home. > > Noodles still available. > > On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 10:37:15 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote: > >> Got two Rivy items I'm looking to pass on. Shipping is not included: >> >> 1) Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack Large Olive with Kangaroo Pouch - $175 >> -- Original version of the Large Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack with the >> Kangaroo Pouch. Great shape, I was saving this as a backup to the one I >> already have. This is the version that also has a cutout in the back to fit >> with a Nitto R-14 Rack. If you need an R-14, I can also include one for an >> additional $100. >> >> 2) Nitto Noodle 48cm Drop Bars - $60 >> --Some tape residue, but otherwise good shape. >> >> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XUhbRsYrjGzedxLU7 >> >> Mike in Minneapolis >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/878de991-7df5-44ef-8a1e-d5d1ca955b55n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Silver Hub sound
No need to decide against an otherwise excellent hub due to a loud freehub. Apply this stuff generously to the pawls and it will silence it several fold. https://www.dumondetech.com/portfolio/pro-x-freehub-grease/ Depending on how much you ride, you may need to reply it every few months or once a year to keep pawls silent. I use it on my mtb which has Industry Nine hubs with a billion engagement points so I can actually enjoy the sounds of nature. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:19:45 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote: > I have one pair of wheels built onto Onyx hubs, and because the rear hub > uses a sprag clutch instead of pawls or a star ratchet like DT Swiss, they > are completely silent when freewheeling. I find it very nice that when I'm > stooging along out in the country and stop pedalling, I don't have any > mechanical noise other than that of the tyres on the road. > > I can't say that I really care for the look of their Vesper model hubs, > which have scalloped edges on the hub flanges between the spoke holes and > stepped diameters on the hub shell. I prefer the older "Classic" model I > have (still available) that has a smoother outline. They're also pretty > pricey - almost up in Chris King territory. > > Nick Payne > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fe9140c0-9472-49b9-bc71-ba8f733841c0n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
*"I do have a workshop and am good with tools". *By "workshop" I take it to mean you have a proper work bench next to your bicycle repair stand, with a reasonably well equipped tool board. This is where you do your current bicycle maintenance. Is that correct? *Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a beginner attempt? *Yes. I specifically would not recommend a beginner try to assemble a brand new bike from the ground up before overhauling an existing bike. I specifically would not recommend doing either of those maneuvers without a proper repair stand *By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been wiser to just order it complete? *There is no question that the cumulative price of all the tools needed to build one bicycle exceed the labor charge for a mechanic to build your bicycle. If you are going to build another 50 bikes in your lifetime, and enjoy it, then that's a great investment. If you are never going to build another bicycle, it's probably not a great investment. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 8:32:14 AM UTC-7 Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5ff14db1-49fa-4554-81b9-41046ba1794cn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
I would ask Rivendell to build it up for you. In fact, that’s exactly what I did with my recent Hunqapillar restoration. <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/customer-bikes/jimmys-hunqapillar> I have many — but not all — of the tools to do a full build. Put aside that fact that buying all the necessary tools would cost more than Rivendell’s build fee. More important than cost is that I trust Rivendell to do the build right a hell of a lot more than I trust myself (or any local bike shop, but that’s a story for another thread). I’d rather experiment and do trial and error on a different bike. Rivendell’s build was, as Philip said, dialed in beautifully. I took it out on a long ride for the first time yesterday and it was sublime. Jim On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 12:38:30 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote: > Get them to build it for you. It’ll be exactly what it should be. > > But then slowly purchase the (high quality) tools required to maintain and > replace components over time. > > That way you’ll get the best of both worlds. > > And the best part of completing a bike build is changing stuff in the > weeks and months that follow anyway, as you discover quirks, problems, and > preferences! > > That way you’ll be ready in a few months and a few thousand miles, a few > different build iterations, to confidentially build your next bike from > scratch. > > Also, bolting on and installing all the parts on a frame and fork is easy > enough. And I would disagree with an earlier reply, installing headsets and > BBs are certainly things a novice with access to the Park Tools YouTube > channel can complete to a proficient degree. > > It’s the combination of getting all those parts of the bicycle working > together harmoniously, > at optimal performance with minimal aesthetic sacrifice, that is the magic > and witchcraft of the professional bicycle mechanic. > > Which is why I’d have Riv build you this first one. > > Every bike I rode there recently was dialed-in to perfection. And I have > multiple friends who have said the same about their own experiences riding > demo Riv’s around the lot. > > > P. W. > ~ > (917) 514-2207 > ~ > > > > > On May 28, 2024, at 9:24 AM, Ken Yokanovich > wrote: > > > > IMHO, your greatest challenge will be finding and collecting all of the > parts necessary to build the bike. I think the key issue being > compatibility, when to ignore and when to respect it. Rivendell World > Headquarters does an fabulous job when it comes to mechanical wisdom and > experience with what works/doesn't. Unless you have experience and a home > shop stocked with components and incidentals, I think you will probably > wind up spending more building a complete bike yourself. (Even excluding > the cost for specialized tools that may be required.) > > I strongly encourage you to explore bicycle maintenance on your own, > perhaps experiment on an existing used bike. I was VERY young when > beginning my bicycle (dis)/assembly and repair. I destroyed a lot of parts > in my ignorance and learning experience. Even after YEARS of experience, I > learned TONS more later when attending professional training and continued > to learn from co-workers and experience with almost every repair while > employed as a professional bike mechanic. No longer working in the > industry, I am still always learning. > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 10:32:14 AM UTC-5 Michael wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >> inclined. >> >> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >> wiser to just order it complete? >> >> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >> stupid! >> >> Thanks, >> > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/273e9134-9a77-47d9-80fe-12c1fa1be451n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/273e9134-9a77-47d9-80fe-12c1fa1be451n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/10641078-2103-48b5-ad37-ae0a75d83057n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: spring cleaning!
*Forgot to update some stuff. Below is what's still available and sold! Reduced some prices.* Available *Paul Shimano Thumbies, Silver, 22.2 — $85* *Shimano Dura Ace 11spd bar end shifters — $85* *Velocity A23 rims, Silver, 700/32h/NMSW — $100* - Purchased in 2012 and sat around ever since, was told it was built and then unbuilt. Looks basically new to my eyes but will ask Rich to double-check if there's any interest. *SOLD - 52cm Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 — $90* - Mounted for a week or so, then taken off. Basically new but there's residue from the standard newbaum/shellac combo here at Riv. *SOLD - Panaracer GravelKing Slick, BROWNwall, folding 700x38 — $80* - Used for one 25 mile ride. *SOLD - Thomson Elite Setback, Black/27.2/330mm — $45* - Looked like a well-used post before I got it. Used for 250-ish miles with no issues. *SOLD - Brooks C17 Carved — $80* On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 7:44:39 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote: > *52cm Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 — $90* > >- Mounted for a week or so, then taken off. Basically new but there's >residue from the standard newbaum/shellac combo here at Riv. > > *Panaracer GravelKing Slick, BROWNwall, folding 700x38 — $80* > >- Used for one 25 mile ride. > > *Velocity A23 rims, Silver, 700/NMSW — $120* > >- Purchased in 2012 and sat around ever since, was told it was built >and then unbuilt. Looks basically new to my eyes but will ask Rich to >double-check if there's any interest. > > *Thomson Elite Setback, Black/27.2/330mm — $45* > >- Looked like a well-used post before I got it. Used for 250-ish miles >with no issues. > > *Paul Shimano Thumbies, Silver, 22.2 — $95* > *Shimano Dura Ace 11spd bar end shifters — $95* > *SOLD - Brooks C17 Carved — $80* > On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 5:19:13 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote: > >> Shipping not included, but free if picked up in Oakland or at Rivendell. >> Venmo preferred. >> >> Most items are like-new, unless otherwise noted. Will try to get photos >> up on Wednesday. >> >> *52cm Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 — $90* >> >>- Mounted for a week or so, then taken off. Basically new but there's >>residue from the standard newbaum/shellac combo here at Riv. >> >> *Panaracer GravelKing Slick, BROWNwall, folding 700x38 — $80* >> >>- Used for one 25 mile ride. >> >> *Velocity A23 rims, Silver, 700/NMSW — $120* >> >>- Purchased in 2012 and sat around ever since, was told it was built >>and then unbuilt. Looks basically new to my eyes but will ask Rich to >>double-check if there's any interest. >> >> *Thomson Elite Setback, Black/27.2/330mm — $45* >> >>- Looked like a well-used post before I got it. Used for 250-ish >>miles with no issues. >> >> *Paul Shimano Thumbies, Silver, 22.2 — $95* >> *Shimano Dura Ace 11spd bar end shifters — $95* >> *Brooks C17 Carved — $80* >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ac9cdea8-5493-4d3c-a7af-690e288c3044n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
Get them to build it for you. It’ll be exactly what it should be.But then slowly purchase the (high quality) tools required to maintain and replace components over time. That way you’ll get the best of both worlds.And the best part of completing a bike build is changing stuff in the weeks and months that follow anyway, as you discover quirks, problems, and preferences!That way you’ll be ready in a few months and a few thousand miles, a few different build iterations, to confidentially build your next bike from scratch.Also, bolting on and installing all the parts on a frame and fork is easy enough. And I would disagree with an earlier reply, installing headsets and BBs are certainly things a novice with access to the Park Tools YouTube channel can complete to a proficient degree.It’s the combination of getting all those parts of the bicycle working together harmoniously,at optimal performance with minimal aesthetic sacrifice, that is the magic and witchcraft of the professional bicycle mechanic.Which is why I’d have Riv build you this first one.Every bike I rode there recently was dialed-in to perfection. And I have multiple friends who have said the same about their own experiences riding demo Riv’s around the lot.P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On May 28, 2024, at 9:24 AM, Ken Yokanovich wrote:IMHO, your greatest challenge will be finding and collecting all of the parts necessary to build the bike. I think the key issue being compatibility, when to ignore and when to respect it. Rivendell World Headquarters does an fabulous job when it comes to mechanical wisdom and experience with what works/doesn't. Unless you have experience and a home shop stocked with components and incidentals, I think you will probably wind up spending more building a complete bike yourself. (Even excluding the cost for specialized tools that may be required.)I strongly encourage you to explore bicycle maintenance on your own, perhaps experiment on an existing used bike. I was VERY young when beginning my bicycle (dis)/assembly and repair. I destroyed a lot of parts in my ignorance and learning experience. Even after YEARS of experience, I learned TONS more later when attending professional training and continued to learn from co-workers and experience with almost every repair while employed as a professional bike mechanic. No longer working in the industry, I am still always learning. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 10:32:14 AM UTC-5 Michael wrote:Hi all, Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically inclined. Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been wiser to just order it complete? Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something stupid!Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/273e9134-9a77-47d9-80fe-12c1fa1be451n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/63D7ACF3-77F4-4B48-A831-7A632BD90D90%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
I agree with Ken regarding the most difficult part being collecting compatible parts. Maybe if you ask nicely riv will sell you a kit-in-a-box? That way you can spend time learning and practicing the actual assembly and adjustment instead of worrying about if the parts in front of you even can play nice together. Brian On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote: > IMHO, your greatest challenge will be finding and collecting all of the > parts necessary to build the bike. I think the key issue being > compatibility, when to ignore and when to respect it. Rivendell World > Headquarters does an fabulous job when it comes to mechanical wisdom and > experience with what works/doesn't. Unless you have experience and a home > shop stocked with components and incidentals, I think you will probably > wind up spending more building a complete bike yourself. (Even excluding > the cost for specialized tools that may be required.) > > I strongly encourage you to explore bicycle maintenance on your own, > perhaps experiment on an existing used bike. I was VERY young when > beginning my bicycle (dis)/assembly and repair. I destroyed a lot of parts > in my ignorance and learning experience. Even after YEARS of experience, I > learned TONS more later when attending professional training and continued > to learn from co-workers and experience with almost every repair while > employed as a professional bike mechanic. No longer working in the > industry, I am still always learning. > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 10:32:14 AM UTC-5 Michael wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle >> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike >> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically >> inclined. >> >> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a >> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been >> wiser to just order it complete? >> >> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something >> stupid! >> >> Thanks, >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/635c9319-6c56-449c-9f1e-c7c06201b462n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?
IMHO, your greatest challenge will be finding and collecting all of the parts necessary to build the bike. I think the key issue being compatibility, when to ignore and when to respect it. Rivendell World Headquarters does an fabulous job when it comes to mechanical wisdom and experience with what works/doesn't. Unless you have experience and a home shop stocked with components and incidentals, I think you will probably wind up spending more building a complete bike yourself. (Even excluding the cost for specialized tools that may be required.) I strongly encourage you to explore bicycle maintenance on your own, perhaps experiment on an existing used bike. I was VERY young when beginning my bicycle (dis)/assembly and repair. I destroyed a lot of parts in my ignorance and learning experience. Even after YEARS of experience, I learned TONS more later when attending professional training and continued to learn from co-workers and experience with almost every repair while employed as a professional bike mechanic. No longer working in the industry, I am still always learning. On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 10:32:14 AM UTC-5 Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/273e9134-9a77-47d9-80fe-12c1fa1be451n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
I suggest you let Riv build up your first Rivendell. You’ll get the full “Riv Ride” that way so you can see what that means, and all the parts will be working together from the get-go. However, you’ll still need a few tools. Specifically, a set of metric Allen wrenches, and a pedal wrench, plus a set of metric taps to chase the braze-ons if you decide to add fenders, rack, etc. Unless you pick up the Sam at Rivendell itself, it will come semi-disassembled in a box and you’ll have to finish assembly, then install a seat, and your own pedals. Also, I suggest you specify the tires when you order, or be prepared to swap the originals out - it might come with knobbies when you are going to do most of your riding on pavement, for example. My Sam did. I would absolutely not recommend a beginner attempt to install a bottom bracket or a headset on the first go. If you decide that you’d like to try bike wrenching, get a bike workstand and learn on your SECOND Rivendell. Also get a good basic book like “Zinn & the art of Road Bike Maintenance” to see how it all goes together. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8595177f-e823-42bc-97f0-dd37058b3720n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2024
Bridgestone Atlantis on the 'bay. Kind of interesting to compare the "Atlantis 1" rando to the "Atlantis 2" tourer: https://www.ebay.com/itm/186459853595 No relation to seller. Huston Lexington, KY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8551167c-da64-4615-88da-74b6452220f1n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
Oh, one more very particular rule: If you are completely clueless about
something, try to grasp and accept this reality, and get a professional to
do the job. With my first bike build I had no idea that certain frames were
designed for certain wheel sizes, and I built up a frame that would take no
rim brake known to man. I rode it in hilly narrow roads with speeding
traffic and downtown with a freewheel and no brakes and only Bismarck's
"special providence" kept me alive. ("There's a special providence that
watches over fools, drunkards, children, and the United States of
America.") (I later came to what sense I had and had a coaster brake
installed.)
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:47 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> Alas, I think that the only way to get personal experience sufficient to
> learn how you really want to build up a bike is lengthy and expensive trial
> and error; at least, that's how I learned to know exactly what I want in a
> frame and in a build.
>
> So my recommendation would be:
>
> 1. If you want quick and convenient and relatively cheap with good
> results: let Rivendell do it.
>
> 2. If you are willing to spend money and time to learn what really works
> and what doesn't, by all means do it yourself.
>
> Apart from that, I have no particular advice except perhaps one thing:
> don't try to save money and hope that an iffy component might work as well
> as a proven but more expensive component. For example, if you know that you
> like Brooks saddles, don't buy a Nashbar saddle hoping that it might just
> work. Believe me, it's cheaper in the not-so-very long run just to buy what
> you already know works for you.
>
> Patrick "building bad bikes since December 1970 (Xmas vacation,
> southern-hemisphere mid-summer, sophomore year)" Moore.
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:32 AM Michael wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle
>> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike
>> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically
>> inclined.
>>
>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a
>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been
>> wiser to just order it complete?
>>
>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something
>> stupid!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
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>> .
>>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?
Alas, I think that the only way to get personal experience sufficient to learn how you really want to build up a bike is lengthy and expensive trial and error; at least, that's how I learned to know exactly what I want in a frame and in a build. So my recommendation would be: 1. If you want quick and convenient and relatively cheap with good results: let Rivendell do it. 2. If you are willing to spend money and time to learn what really works and what doesn't, by all means do it yourself. Apart from that, I have no particular advice except perhaps one thing: don't try to save money and hope that an iffy component might work as well as a proven but more expensive component. For example, if you know that you like Brooks saddles, don't buy a Nashbar saddle hoping that it might just work. Believe me, it's cheaper in the not-so-very long run just to buy what you already know works for you. Patrick "building bad bikes since December 1970 (Xmas vacation, southern-hemisphere mid-summer, sophomore year)" Moore. On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:32 AM Michael wrote: > Hi all, > Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle > building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike > before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically > inclined. > > Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a > beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been > wiser to just order it complete? > > Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something > stupid! > > Thanks, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum --- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services --- *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfguzq3tTSz0oYhVmR%3Dq3PWr5_Jad%3DS%3DzormY2cp1nLazfA%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: How much can you vary wheel diameter and tire width without degrading handling?
Thanks, all. I suppose the best thing to do is to try some good 42 mm tires -- I agree that 42 mm is a good width for pavement with firmer dirt or gravel, at least in my 559 size. OTOH, since the Somas roll so well and handle very nicely ? After Jay mentioned his Fargo, I remembered that I'd done the same thing with mine, 10-14 years ago. The "main" wheelset had 60 mm Big Apples but I got a "road" wheelset with ~33-4 mm Kojaks. I didn't use this set as much as the other one and have only fuzzy memories of it, but those memories, such as they are, don't include much degraded handling, unlike the horrible handling of 22s on my NORBA-era conversions in place of 50s. Segueing: just the other day found that I can reduce air pressure in the ~49 mm Oracle Ridge regular casings to 16-17 psi to reduce jarring noticeably over small bumps compared to the 20 psi I'd defined as a personal minimum for 50s. Yes, a noticeable improvement in cushion. Bu, *mirabile dictu*, cornering and rolling on pavement seem no different. I'm 175 kitted out and the bike is about 33 lb ready to ride with luggage but no load. I expect that the EL Oracles might require a lb or 2 more; I used to ride my 60 mm ultralight/paperthin Big Ones at 18. I must try the similarly paper thin Somas at 16 and see if they too need a psi or 2 more. This might well be a bike tire pressure race to the bottom; we'll see... I used Jim's site to get wheel diameters for the tires that I haven't measured directly, but I just now went back and checked trail and flop. 50s: 64/19, 42s: 61/18. I used to ride the bike with 60s: 67/20. My problem is that I can't yet translate these numbers into riding experience, as I can say for gear inches. But it does show that there is no more difference between 50 -- empirical handling sweet spot -- and 42s than between 60s and 50s; again, not quite sure what to make of that in terms of person experiences of bike handling. Thus, others' experiences will be usefully educational. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfguk99r2eypwi6pnd0XO7Fd9fDW43HL3mn%2B2EgAVj6vAKg%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] DIY build or order complete?
Hi all, Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically inclined. Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been wiser to just order it complete? Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something stupid! Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/25e3bad5-587a-4d8f-bd29-8ca1f70295aen%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [RBW] Re: How much can you vary wheel diameter and tire width without degrading handling?
I ran my independent fabrication sport touring bike 700 C between 25 and 35 mm tires over the years. I converted to 650 B and ran 32 mm to 42 mm tires and really haven't noticed any difference in handling nor reduction in speed oh but what and incredible increase in comfort From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 8:44 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: How much can you vary wheel diameter and tire width without degrading handling? I don't have a lot of experience with what you've outlined and asked about (those specific dimensions), however, I'll share my experience with my Salsa Fargo, as in the end it brought me here! It came mounted with 29x2.2". From the first test ride I knew it was for me, as a drop bar mtb / monster cross bike for local mixed surface trails. When winter came I wanted to use it with narrower tires, minimal tread, as it would only be ridden on the road. I swapped the tires with 43mm GKSS. I didn't like the way it handled. I'm assuming it affected the trail? In any case, it wasn't that stable ride I enjoyed. What brought me here, to this forum and wanting a Roadini - I needed a bike for those tires! And it worked out great...the 43mm GKSS are perfect on the Roadini. On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 5:18:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: Frames are designed to handle best with wheels of a certain diameter with tires of a certain width, but sometimes you can vary tire size and get away with it without making the bike handle strangely or risking pedal strike. Instance: 25 years ago I built up several nice pre-susp mtbs with 3 wheels, 2" knobbies, ~26" in diameter, 32-5 mm slicks, ~25" in diameter, for commuting, and gofast wheels with 26X1" = 22-23 mm in real world width Specialized Turbos (nice tires), 24", for unladed weekend pavement riding. So, diameters from 26" to 24". A bit later I had 2 wheelsets for my 1992 XO-1, 24" diameter Turbos and 25" diameter Tioga City Slickers. The skinnies made the bike a bit quicker to turn. With the converted mtbs, the bikes handled very nicely with 2" tires, quite nicely with ~32s, and horribly with 22 mm actual Turbos -- twitchy in straight line, hesitant and inconsistent in turns. That was the long windup to this question: for a frame designed for "up to 622X 60s and 584 X 80s"(+ fenders) -- both about 750 mm in diameter, and, #2, one that in fact handles very nicely with 622 X 50s -- ~730 mm -- how skinny can one go before compromising handling? I have no interest in installing 23s, but I think of installing extralight 42s, 714 mm diameter, so a 3/4' or 19 mm drop in real world bb height. Any thoughts? Background: I got a second wheelset for the Matthews #1 "road bike for dirt" for 50 mm* RH Oracle Ridge tires. I meant ot have this knobby wheelset for our sandy dirt and leave the original, otherwise identical, wheelset with the 50 mm Soma Supple Vitesse SLs for pavement riding, this after I discovered that the Somas do poorly on sandy surfaces. It turns out that the Oracles roll and handle closely enough to the Somas that I rather think it's redundant to have a road wheelset with 50 mm tires, even though these Somas at 360 grams roll exceptionally well and make this bike handle much like my Riv Roads. So I wonder about 42s -- no narrower, unless you present good evidence for narrower -- for lighter weight and perhaps handline a wee bit "crisper." * ~Actual widths for both OR and SSVSL. -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum --- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services --- When thou didst not, savage, know thine own meaning, But wouldst gabble like a thing most brutish, I endowed thy purposes with words that made them known. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/55c106b1-4ed5-46a3-951f-3b660ec3c4ben%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/55c106b1-4ed5-46a3-951f-3b660ec3c4ben%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this d
Re: [RBW] Silver Hub sound
I have one pair of wheels built onto Onyx hubs, and because the rear hub uses a sprag clutch instead of pawls or a star ratchet like DT Swiss, they are completely silent when freewheeling. I find it very nice that when I'm stooging along out in the country and stop pedalling, I don't have any mechanical noise other than that of the tyres on the road. I can't say that I really care for the look of their Vesper model hubs, which have scalloped edges on the hub flanges between the spoke holes and stepped diameters on the hub shell. I prefer the older "Classic" model I have (still available) that has a smoother outline. They're also pretty pricey - almost up in Chris King territory. Nick Payne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/19da464f-76c9-461a-98c7-ebb99c260989n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: How much can you vary wheel diameter and tire width without degrading handling?
When I stopped racing it, I converted my old Litespeed race bike from 622 wheels with 25mm tyres to 584 with 32mm tyres, as the chainstays on the Litespeed bow inwards, and the widest 622 tyre that would fit between the chainstays was 25mm. Because 584 rims are 19mm smaller radius, I could manage to fit a 32mm tyre. I can't say that I noticed a difference in the handling with the smaller wheels. With the lower bottom bracket I did have to avoid pedalling through fast corners. I also have a disc brake minivelo, on which I run either 451 wheels with 28mm tyres or 406 wheels with 44mm tyres. Other than the increased shock absorbtion with the larger tyres, I don't notice any difference in the handling there either. Nick Payne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c540e4de-ced4-402c-a7f7-7bf1e881421en%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Track Supermarket
Garth Thanks for directions to the 2024 Nitto catalogue John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 5:15:56 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote: > The catalog is on their home page, upper right in big letters :* PDF > Catalog * :) > https://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/index-E.html > > > On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-4 ian m wrote: > >> On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 11:49:33 AM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote: >> >> Where does one get a Nitto catalog?! >> k. >> >> >> Inquiring minds must know! >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d6f943a5-a5d3-4448-b6f4-b32af37e5d12n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Big Joe goes to Snowdonia
Like, WOW. Nicolas, you really make me want to go there and explore. I would rather take 4hrs to cover 'those' 35km than a fast-paced, paved ride anywhere around here. On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 5:23:26 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote: > Nicholas, what a magical landscape. Thanks for sharing the photos. Nicely > put together Joe Appa too! > > Best, > Rich in ATL > > On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 3:06:53 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote: > >> Fantastic shots! Thanks so much. Looks like a hoot! >> >> >> John >> On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 2:28:08 AM UTC-7 Nicholas A wrote: >> >>> [image: IMG_9184.jpg] >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/43b1d1eb-a905-4b0b-b89b-1fd9f550cd99n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: How much can you vary wheel diameter and tire width without degrading handling?
I don't have a lot of experience with what you've outlined and asked about (those specific dimensions), however, I'll share my experience with my Salsa Fargo, as in the end it brought me here! It came mounted with 29x2.2". From the first test ride I knew it was for me, as a drop bar mtb / monster cross bike for local mixed surface trails. When winter came I wanted to use it with narrower tires, minimal tread, as it would only be ridden on the road. I swapped the tires with 43mm GKSS. I didn't like the way it handled. I'm assuming it affected the trail? In any case, it wasn't that stable ride I enjoyed. What brought me here, to this forum and wanting a Roadini - I needed a bike for those tires! And it worked out great...the 43mm GKSS are perfect on the Roadini. On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 5:18:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Frames are designed to handle best with wheels of a certain diameter with > tires of a certain width, but sometimes you can vary tire size and get away > with it without making the bike handle strangely or risking pedal strike. > > Instance: 25 years ago I built up several nice pre-susp mtbs with 3 > wheels, 2" knobbies, ~26" in diameter, 32-5 mm slicks, ~25" in diameter, > for commuting, and gofast wheels with 26X1" = 22-23 mm in real world width > Specialized Turbos (nice tires), 24", for unladed weekend pavement riding. > So, diameters from 26" to 24". A bit later I had 2 wheelsets for my 1992 > XO-1, 24" diameter Turbos and 25" diameter Tioga City Slickers. The > skinnies made the bike a bit quicker to turn. > > With the converted mtbs, the bikes handled very nicely with 2" tires, > quite nicely with ~32s, and horribly with 22 mm actual Turbos -- twitchy in > straight line, hesitant and inconsistent in turns. > > That was the long windup to this question: for a frame designed for "up to > 622X 60s and 584 X 80s"(+ fenders) -- both about 750 mm in diameter, and, > #2, one that in fact handles very nicely with 622 X 50s -- ~730 mm -- how > skinny can one go before compromising handling? > > I have no interest in installing 23s, but I think of installing extralight > 42s, 714 mm diameter, so a 3/4' or 19 mm drop in real world bb height. > > Any thoughts? > > Background: I got a second wheelset for the Matthews #1 "road bike for > dirt" for 50 mm* RH Oracle Ridge tires. I meant ot have this knobby > wheelset for our sandy dirt and leave the original, otherwise identical, > wheelset with the 50 mm Soma Supple Vitesse SLs for pavement riding, this > after I discovered that the Somas do poorly on sandy surfaces. > > It turns out that the Oracles roll and handle closely enough to the Somas > that I rather think it's redundant to have a road wheelset with 50 mm > tires, even though these Somas at 360 grams roll exceptionally well and > make this bike handle much like my Riv Roads. > > So I wonder about 42s -- no narrower, unless you present good evidence for > narrower -- for lighter weight and perhaps handline a wee bit "crisper." > > * ~Actual widths for both OR and SSVSL. > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > --- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > --- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/55c106b1-4ed5-46a3-951f-3b660ec3c4ben%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Let me introduce my Atlantis...
Ben, You ARE very lucky to have an Atlantis (the bike I would have bought if I had more money years ago--I fell in love with its ride too) and a fun Sarah to ride with! Not only can we indulge our passions with wonderful riding bikes, but also make friends along the way. Many happy miles to you. Roberta On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 3:44:16 PM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com wrote: > hey all, > > this is my third attempt at posting so hope fully it goes well. hope fully > my tech illiterate self can figure this out... > here is my 53 Atlantis i picked up in December from an RBW member. shout > out to Zac big thank you. > i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis on top of > that. When i first saw riv's the Atlantis was the one that i was like "i > have to own one at some point". > i feel very lucky to not only own a Rivendell but an Atlantis. its a > group within a group. > You can find me hiding up in the Berkley hills or on the Wildcat trail and > even running errands along the Greenway. > Still figuring out the set up, but i think for the most part we are pretty > dialed. maybe a few things here and there. i do have an XTR Rapid rise > that will go on next. > Big shout out to Alex K, The Riv sisters. Especially Leah and Sarah. > Sarah has become my new riding partner. > *pics coming in next post > Ben R from El Cerrito > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9cc82d58-7638-47cf-9a42-4d353745bbe0n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: How much can you vary wheel diameter and tire width without degrading handling?
'll suggest that the handling variables most effected by tire size are trail and wheel flop. Smaller diameter wheel/tire combinations decrease both trail and flop. Wider (and lower inflation pressures) slow steering response, in my experience. I have a 90s race dike thatover the years I've run with 700 x 19s, 23s and 28s. I converted it to 650b wheels a few years back and am running RH 38mm slicks on it. The 650b x 38s have been my favorite combination on that bike. You can plug the numbers in here if you want to quantify the differences between tire & wheel sizes - http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php I consider 38 to 42mm tires to be a bit of a sweet spot for pavement riding. They have enough volume to provide some cush and vibration dampening, but are still relatively light, spinning up to speed quickly, giving the drivetrain a more responsive feeling. I find they also do well enough on smooth, hard pack dirt or gravel routes to keep me comfortable exploring them. So, that's my $0,02.Steve in AVL On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 5:18:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Frames are designed to handle best with wheels of a certain diameter with > tires of a certain width, but sometimes you can vary tire size and get away > with it without making the bike handle strangely or risking pedal strike. > > Instance: 25 years ago I built up several nice pre-susp mtbs with 3 > wheels, 2" knobbies, ~26" in diameter, 32-5 mm slicks, ~25" in diameter, > for commuting, and gofast wheels with 26X1" = 22-23 mm in real world width > Specialized Turbos (nice tires), 24", for unladed weekend pavement riding. > So, diameters from 26" to 24". A bit later I had 2 wheelsets for my 1992 > XO-1, 24" diameter Turbos and 25" diameter Tioga City Slickers. The > skinnies made the bike a bit quicker to turn. > > With the converted mtbs, the bikes handled very nicely with 2" tires, > quite nicely with ~32s, and horribly with 22 mm actual Turbos -- twitchy in > straight line, hesitant and inconsistent in turns. > > That was the long windup to this question: for a frame designed for "up to > 622X 60s and 584 X 80s"(+ fenders) -- both about 750 mm in diameter, and, > #2, one that in fact handles very nicely with 622 X 50s -- ~730 mm -- how > skinny can one go before compromising handling? > > I have no interest in installing 23s, but I think of installing extralight > 42s, 714 mm diameter, so a 3/4' or 19 mm drop in real world bb height. > > Any thoughts? > > Background: I got a second wheelset for the Matthews #1 "road bike for > dirt" for 50 mm* RH Oracle Ridge tires. I meant ot have this knobby > wheelset for our sandy dirt and leave the original, otherwise identical, > wheelset with the 50 mm Soma Supple Vitesse SLs for pavement riding, this > after I discovered that the Somas do poorly on sandy surfaces. > > It turns out that the Oracles roll and handle closely enough to the Somas > that I rather think it's redundant to have a road wheelset with 50 mm > tires, even though these Somas at 360 grams roll exceptionally well and > make this bike handle much like my Riv Roads. > > So I wonder about 42s -- no narrower, unless you present good evidence for > narrower -- for lighter weight and perhaps handline a wee bit "crisper." > > * ~Actual widths for both OR and SSVSL. > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > --- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > --- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/65f34224-9423-4ecd-9c4a-f8f14038cac1n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: How much can you vary wheel diameter and tire width without degrading handling?
I'll suggest that the handling variables most effected by tire size are trail and wheel flop. Smaller diameter wheel/tire combinations decrease both trail and flop. Wider (and lower inflation pressures) slow steering response, in my experience. I have a 90s race dike thatover the years I've run with 700 x 19s, 23s and 28s. I converted it to 650b wheels a few years back and am running RH 38mm slicks on it. The 650b x 38s are my You can plug the numbers in here if you want to quantify the differences between tire & wheel sizes - http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php I consider 38 to 42mm tires to be a bit of a sweet spot for pavement riding. They have enough volume to provide some cush and vibration dampening, but are still relatively light, spinning up to speed quickly, giving the drivetrain a more responsive feeling. They also do well enough on smooth, hard pack dirt or gravel routes to let you feel comfortable exploring them. Steve in AVL On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 5:18:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Frames are designed to handle best with wheels of a certain diameter with > tires of a certain width, but sometimes you can vary tire size and get away > with it without making the bike handle strangely or risking pedal strike. > > Instance: 25 years ago I built up several nice pre-susp mtbs with 3 > wheels, 2" knobbies, ~26" in diameter, 32-5 mm slicks, ~25" in diameter, > for commuting, and gofast wheels with 26X1" = 22-23 mm in real world width > Specialized Turbos (nice tires), 24", for unladed weekend pavement riding. > So, diameters from 26" to 24". A bit later I had 2 wheelsets for my 1992 > XO-1, 24" diameter Turbos and 25" diameter Tioga City Slickers. The > skinnies made the bike a bit quicker to turn. > > With the converted mtbs, the bikes handled very nicely with 2" tires, > quite nicely with ~32s, and horribly with 22 mm actual Turbos -- twitchy in > straight line, hesitant and inconsistent in turns. > > That was the long windup to this question: for a frame designed for "up to > 622X 60s and 584 X 80s"(+ fenders) -- both about 750 mm in diameter, and, > #2, one that in fact handles very nicely with 622 X 50s -- ~730 mm -- how > skinny can one go before compromising handling? > > I have no interest in installing 23s, but I think of installing extralight > 42s, 714 mm diameter, so a 3/4' or 19 mm drop in real world bb height. > > Any thoughts? > > Background: I got a second wheelset for the Matthews #1 "road bike for > dirt" for 50 mm* RH Oracle Ridge tires. I meant ot have this knobby > wheelset for our sandy dirt and leave the original, otherwise identical, > wheelset with the 50 mm Soma Supple Vitesse SLs for pavement riding, this > after I discovered that the Somas do poorly on sandy surfaces. > > It turns out that the Oracles roll and handle closely enough to the Somas > that I rather think it's redundant to have a road wheelset with 50 mm > tires, even though these Somas at 360 grams roll exceptionally well and > make this bike handle much like my Riv Roads. > > So I wonder about 42s -- no narrower, unless you present good evidence for > narrower -- for lighter weight and perhaps handline a wee bit "crisper." > > * ~Actual widths for both OR and SSVSL. > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > --- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > --- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/437e15ed-acae-441d-8278-8ad536de6845n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: Yet Another Garage Sale
leur, silver - Shows some >>>wear-and-tear, but shifts up to a 42t 10 speed cassette. *$30 - >>>pending* >>>- Deore M5000 10 speed 11-42 cassette - effectively new, but mounted >>>and ridden around the block. *$30 - pending* >>> >>> >>>- Ultegra 10 speed 114 link chain, new except for some block miles. >>>Waxed with silca chain wax if that's your thing. *$40* (I can >>>include 2, 10 speed quick links for another $5 to help with resuse >>> during >>>hot-pot waxing). >>>- Ultegra 10 speed 114 link chain, about 100 commute miles on this >>>guy. Used T-9 chain lube on this one. *$25* >>> >>> >>>- Microshift 2/3x10 thumbie shifters. The front is friction, and the >>>rear was originally a 9-speed, but I replaced the detents on them to >>> make >>>it the old 10 speed road pull. I also have the old 9 speed detents if >>> you >>>want it back to that. Can be used with old 9 speed mountain rear >>>derailleurs to index it over a 10 speed cassette *$50 - pending* >>>- IRD 28t 74 BCD 11 speed chainrings. One shows wear form just >>>trying something out on the stand, the other is brand new, never >>> mounted. *$40 >>>- pending* >>> >>> >>>- Silca Tubeless Setup, 16 oz Part 1 and 32 oz Part 2 (replenisher). >>>New, never used. *$50* >>> >>> >>>- Some 9 speed cassettes 1x sram 11-34, 1x shimano hg400 11-36 >>>megarange type, 1xmicroshift 11-36. All steel cogs on these suckers. >>> *$15 >>>each - pending* >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Collin >>> >>> On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 2:16:32 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote: >>> >>> Ugh, photos are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/2q2EdEo1398n17rq6 >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/932ecbba-d1c0-48c1-ac20-a71207a71bacn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Big Joe goes to Snowdonia
Nicholas, what a magical landscape. Thanks for sharing the photos. Nicely put together Joe Appa too! Best, Rich in ATL On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 3:06:53 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote: > Fantastic shots! Thanks so much. Looks like a hoot! > > > John > On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 2:28:08 AM UTC-7 Nicholas A wrote: > >> [image: IMG_9184.jpg] > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/da579447-b3b1-463d-a137-527ea2f2dd7cn%40googlegroups.com.
